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00:44.38AstainHasPS3dcordes its not been tested 100% for that...
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01:06.32dcordesAstainHasPS3: can you try?
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01:25.49m0z_workmm, is development for android progressing faster on Blackstone than it is on Raphael?
01:28.40AstainHasPS3dcordes yes but my building zImages isn't so great...
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03:21.41pzztgotbagzwoohoo more peoples
03:22.13pzztgotbagzso is there any eta when we wil see the new release for the sprint touch pro
03:25.01dcordes_which release?
03:25.35pzztgotbagzwith the fixed vid
03:26.58m0z_workis development for android progressing faster on Blackstone than it is on Raphael?
03:32.42pzztgotbagzman this chat is just as dead as any other chat i go int
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03:33.26dcordes_:>
03:34.21pzztgotbagzahha
03:34.35pzztgotbagzwas hoping maejrep was here
03:35.03dcordes_I can't see any video fixes in the kernel lately
03:35.19pzztgotbagzwell i know theres a post on connect
03:35.30dcordes_what?
03:35.33pzztgotbagzthat mae has figured out how to fix vid problem for raph 500/800
03:35.58dcordes_well he did not commit it yet and I don't know about a patch so can't help
03:36.14pzztgotbagzhttp://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=125:color-distortion-in-android-for-the-cdma-raph-and-diam-soon-fixed&catid=42:the-android-port
03:37.08pzztgotbagzso figured id stop my here and see how development is coming along
03:37.47pzztgotbagzand its funny how the comments have absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand
03:37.53dcordes_you can clone the git, apply the patch, try
03:38.28dcordes_otherwise wait for maejrep[w] to finish
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03:46.33dcordes_pzztgotbagz: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/kernel/raphael/zImage-htcraphael-20090603-00
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04:15.13maejrep[w]tmzt: yeah that's the best way to do smd1 as a tty..  but tbh, I don't know that it's "meant" to be a tty.  I would imagine there would be at least a comment in smd_tty.c if it were meant to be a tty
04:15.21maejrep[w]doesn't SMD_DIAG go through adb or so?
04:15.31maejrep[w]or a serial console or something
04:16.00maejrep[w]pzztgotbagz: the patch is very easy to apply (can just change 2 numbers in mdp.c to see the fix)
04:16.14maejrep[w]the hard part is getting it to compile and have everything you need for it to run
04:16.21maejrep[w]if you can get by that, then you should be able to test it
04:16.37maejrep[w]the only reason I haven't committed it is because I want to see how raph100 reacts to it ..  still don't recall seeing a response to that
04:16.58maejrep[w]if raph100 doesn't like it, then I'll just have to make it dependent on machtype
04:17.32maejrep[w]there were also reports of some problems booting after making the change, so I need to check if there's something else that is causing it to break, or if that was just coincidence
04:17.55maejrep[w]and as you can see <--  I'm at [w], and am basically at [w] for 12-16 hours per day recently
04:18.10AstainHasPS3damn maejrep[w] thats a lot
04:18.11maejrep[w]so makes it hard to get in development time ..  maybe this weekend
04:18.29maejrep[w]11:18pm now :p
04:18.36maejrep[w]and, heading home
04:18.53maejrep[w]AstainHasPS3: did you ever get to test that patch on raph100?
04:19.02maejrep[w]and see it boot, that is
04:20.29AstainHasPS3no not yet quick question as far as you know should I be able to just use the raph def config from git?
04:21.38pzztgotbagzsprry i was away
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04:46.20iAmNotoriousis there a build out there with the color fix for the raph800?
04:56.14maejrepAstainHasPS3: yeah, you should be able to, I think
04:56.31maejrepfor raph800 though, you'd have to enable SMD_7500 for the smd0 channel
04:57.41AstainHasPS3ok
05:06.46iAmNotoriousdoes anyone know of a build with the raph800 color fix? all of the builds ive seen were created back in february
05:07.34AstainHasPS3iAmNotorious its not out yet
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05:07.55iAmNotorioushas anyone tested it to confirm the fix works?
05:08.10AstainHasPS3maejrep has tested on 800
05:08.19AstainHasPS3I am going to test it on 100 to make sure it no break stuff
05:09.27iAmNotoriousmaejrep: could you post the build?
05:10.12maejrepfor 800?
05:10.20iAmNotoriousyes sir
05:11.36maejrephttp://www.privatepaste.com/5c07eYr5wr -- closest to what's in git
05:11.58maejrephttp://www.privatepaste.com/29tm0YClC6 -- more of a development build, but should work for raph800 (no guarantees for raph100)
05:12.48iAmNotorioussweet
05:13.57maejrepyou are using the raph800 mtype, right?
05:16.22AstainHasPS3maejrep building a test zImage to make sure I can build one that boots then next will build one with your changes
05:17.45AstainHasPS3lets see how long an atom takes to do the cross compile build
05:19.34maejrepafter the first build it'll be quick ;)
05:19.56maejreptakes about 3-5 minutes on my machine for the first build, then everything after that is 10-15 seconds
05:20.33tmztmaejrep: hello
05:20.51AstainHasPS3cool
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05:22.38AstainHasPS3that was wierd...
05:22.54AstainHasPS3musta accidentally closed the window for this room
05:23.08tmztI built the kernel pulled yesterday and made some changes to allow registering smd_tty, but it complains about the channel not being registered
05:25.57tmztoh, I had smd1 instead of smd7
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05:33.12iAmNotoriousmaejrep, yes I have a raph800
05:34.14tmztiAmNotorious: I tested an earlier version of the color patch on raph500 and it worked well
05:34.29tmztmaejrep is just waiting to get someone with raph100 to test it
05:35.51iAmNotoriousso from what ive read calls are working too just not audio?
05:36.15tmztcalls maybe
05:36.18tmztAT works
05:36.44AstainHasPS3w00t zImage build 1 is done building time to test
05:36.54tmztAstainHasPS3: what device?
05:37.03tmzts/what/which/
05:37.04AstainHasPS3raph100 :)
05:37.15tmztwith the raph800 color patch?
05:37.25AstainHasPS3after this build yes
05:37.34AstainHasPS3build 1 is to test to make sure it works from my machine
05:37.39AstainHasPS3build 2 is to test color patch
05:43.25ttolstmzt: thx
05:43.42tmztttols: zImage determines MTYPE basically
05:43.47ttolsI downloaded zImage from http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.4/install/files/ipaq-pxa270/
05:43.47ttols<PROTECTED>
05:44.00ttolsand excute haret on my rw6100.
05:44.09tmztthat's for a different ipaq, but if you are going to use it copy the MTYPE from default.txt
05:44.30ttolsbut I see the "undefinded MTYPE" error message
05:45.00ttolsset blabla on default.txt ?
05:45.50tmztno, you need to find out what MTYPE that kernel uses, then put it in your default.txt
05:45.54ttolsoh~~
05:46.06ttolsit is working
05:46.11tmztthis uses itsy bootloder
05:46.12ttols:) nice
05:46.15tmztreally?
05:46.18ttolsyes
05:46.45tmztthe screen is right?
05:47.02ttolsit is haret messgae. wait...
05:47.15tmztyeah, that's a haret message
05:47.16ttolsjumping to kernel...
05:47.30tmztand nothing?
05:47.32ttolsyes
05:47.34tmztthen it doesn't work
05:47.53ttolshm....
05:48.20ttolsanyway I can run bootloader :)
05:49.25tmztwhat bootloader?
05:49.38tmztthat's for booting linux from rom on a specific ipaq device
05:49.56tmzttry the H3800 MTYPE
05:50.15tmzt137
05:50.33ttolsset MTYPE 137 ??
05:50.45tmztye
05:50.47tmztyes
05:51.09tmztor 203 or 220
05:54.40ttolstmzt: WM is reinstalling...
05:54.44ttolswait :)
05:54.55ttolsi will try 220.
05:57.23tmzteach of those is a different ipaq and will probably work differently
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06:01.27ttolsthose are all failed.
06:01.47maejrephmm
06:01.57maejrepcan't believe that reverse dns hasn't been updated :x
06:01.58ttolsjumping to kernel and...nothing to see.
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06:11.05AstainHasPS3w00t first one worked time to make maejrep's changes
06:11.56maejrepAstainHasPS3: that's testing with android?
06:12.10AstainHasPS3yes
06:12.32maejrepi expect the display to be distorted on raph100
06:12.35maejrepbut want to be sure ;x
06:12.36AstainHasPS3ok
06:12.48AstainHasPS3so to test I only need to edit the mdp.c file right?
06:13.00maejrepyes, and make
06:13.48AstainHasPS3and line 10 on the diff is the change I need to make right?
06:14.10AstainHasPS3the make?
06:14.36AstainHasPS3n/m
06:14.45AstainHasPS3and line 10 on the diff is the change I need to make right?
06:17.12maejrepline number is printed in the 2nd or 3rd line of the diff
06:17.15maejrephave the url?
06:17.42maejrep#
06:17.42maejrep@@ -232,7 +232,7 @@ void mdp_dma_to_mddi(struct mdp_info *mdp, uint32_t addr, uint32_t stride,
06:17.50maejrepthat means it starts at line "232"
06:18.00maejrepbut you can just search for "666"
06:18.07maejrepits the only place in the file
06:18.07AstainHasPS3http://www.privatepaste.com/f30PDccBDk
06:19.18maejrepthe syntax of that line is:  area from old file starts at line 232, and 7 lines are displayed;  area of new file (after modifications) starts at line 232 also, and also displaying 7 lines
06:19.29maejrepand its in the "void mdp_dma_to_mddi()" function
06:24.24AstainHasPS3colors borked
06:24.55AstainHasPS3bluer
06:26.15AstainHasPS3so ya mtype detection needed
06:28.03maejrepok
06:28.04maejrepthanks
06:28.10AstainHasPS3welcome
06:28.25AstainHasPS3glad to help
06:29.04AstainHasPS3anything else i can do?
06:29.18maejrepdon't think so
06:29.28maejrepi'll try to get that in place and commit this weekend
06:29.34AstainHasPS3cool
06:29.38maejrephave many other patches too
06:29.45maejrepthis makes the panel init code less of an issue now
06:30.05maejrepthought if we can come up with a way to get the epson controller into 666 mode, it won't be needed :)
06:30.20AstainHasPS3curious the smd changes for 7500 should that allow sms or data?
06:30.35maejrepsms for sure
06:30.40maejrepnot sure about data, haven't tried
06:30.42AstainHasPS3cool
06:31.04maejrepI saw an SMS come in over /dev/smd0, so I know that much should work (assuming android can handle that format without needing a middle man to mangle it
06:31.45maejrepi'll check if vogue needs anything special
06:32.03tmztI got an sms as well from vtext.com, it was a binary format (hex) and I haven't seen how to decode it
06:32.32tmztis data over smd7?
06:35.31maejrepnot sure yet
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06:44.56tmztdo you know why it complains when I register smd_alloc_tty("DATA1", 7, SMD_DATA1) [I hope I have copied that correctly]?
06:45.13tmztor is it just doing that before smd_init, that might be it
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06:59.01Cobainso the zimage fixed the colors
06:59.22Cobainbut i saw the android logo and it was glowing for a few seconds and then my phone shuts off :(
06:59.50Cobainbut it was a pretty color of green for once
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07:01.40AstainHasPS3hi Cobain
07:01.44Cobainhi
07:04.11tmzt[    0.430000] smd_alloc_channel() cid 7 does not exist
07:04.12tmzt[    1.042243] smd_init()
07:04.20tmztso alloc is getting called before init
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07:06.39tiger2wanderHi all, Has anyone run OpenMoko on BA?
07:08.19tmztmaybe parmaster
07:09.02tmztok, I'm adding smd_alloc_channel to the is_mach_htcraphcdma block
07:13.55AstainHasPS3nice tmzt
07:14.20tmztwell, I don't know if it works yet
07:14.36AstainHasPS3true but its working on improvements which is good
07:14.39tmztand it would be better to either find a table in smem for 7500 or use pdata if necessary
07:14.48AstainHasPS3pdata?
07:14.55tmztplatform_data
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07:15.39tmztit would also be nice to know if 7500 audio will be like vogue
07:15.49tmztand if it will require proc_comm or rpc
07:15.51AstainHasPS3yes that would be awesome
07:16.29AstainHasPS3assuming 7501a and 7500a is audio is like vogue how quickly could we have that working?
07:17.00tmztnot sure, that's why I wonder if vogue driver would work so we could use dzo's ril unmodified
07:17.25AstainHasPS3ahh ic how hard would it be to try vogue driver?
07:17.42tmzthaven't looked at it
07:18.07tmztwould be best to wait for maejrep probably, at least AT is working now though
07:18.33AstainHasPS3true
07:19.13tmztfailed handover that time
07:19.47AstainHasPS3didnt maejrep grab alot of the smd stuff from vogues implementation?
07:20.05tmztI think the head tail values are from smem dumps
07:20.42tmztor tracing drivers or something
07:31.38tmztAstainHasPS3: this time it booted, hold on
07:35.51tmzt[    1.045905] smd_alloc_channel() cid 7 does not exist
07:35.54tmztstill no good
07:36.15tmztI see, it has to get the head/tail from somewhere?
07:36.21tmzthow do I dump those with haret?
07:36.54tmztwell, I can look for a ppp packet but how do I dump the whole smem
07:38.25AstainHasPS3hmm
07:46.01tmztif cid 7 is not in toc how do I find it's address, I guess maejrep found the ones for 0 and 1
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08:00.52AstainHasPS3what does 0 and 1 do?
08:01.18tmzt0 is DS (AT commands), 1 is DIAG (qualcomm DM)
08:06.07AstainHasPS3ahh nice
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08:17.56tiger2wandertmzt, do you know how to config internet share between GPE and ubuntu PC host?
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12:11.05melgurthanyone know how to properly (not guessing)  set display driver? I mean pixclocks, margins etc
12:11.24melgurthin kernel sources of course
12:54.01tmztmelgurth: for?
12:54.41tmztI'm familiar with omap and pxa
12:55.08melgurthfor pxa
12:55.18tmzton a CE device?
12:55.20tmztwhat device?
12:55.31melgurthI'm working on i780 port
12:55.41melgurthit have 320x320 screen
12:55.50tmztxuxtyx?? should have those
12:56.00tmztare you using zylonite?
12:56.01melgurthand sometimes boots with strange white area on
12:56.03tmztor the ipaq kernel
12:56.05melgurthyes
12:56.11tmztgood
12:56.11melgurthzylonite
12:56.41tmztget the pxafb memory resources from devices.c (or hardware.c)
12:57.02tmztget haret from handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/
12:57.39tmztconnect with telnet and run pwf pxafb.bin <address> 16
12:57.42tmztshould work
12:58.02melgurthyou mean haret console?
12:59.46melgurthsorry but this is quite cosmic to me ;)
13:00.04lamatmzt: melgurth is working on i780
13:00.35tmztcool
13:00.44tmztah, right lama not xut*
13:01.31tmztlama: do you have the values then?
13:02.57lamahmm
13:03.13lamayou should have :)
13:03.15melgurth.start= 0x44000000, .end= 0x4400ffff,
13:03.24melgurthsomething like that?
13:03.27tmztI don't have access to that right now
13:03.29lamaall I have is an irclog (probably) with values you have pasted
13:03.35lamalet me see
13:03.45tmztyeah, but you need more then just those two
13:03.52tmztno
13:04.05tmztpaste the block you got that from
13:04.45lamahmm I don't have irc logs :/
13:06.15melgurthtmzt this block can be dump by haretconsole?
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13:08.38tmzthttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fynezz.ibawizard.net%2Floox720%2Fpxa-utils%2FdecodeLCCR&ei=TCCxSej4CKXyMsyG-IEF&usg=AFQjCNEoNeN77z2G8opohbtTEqXYH0fiyQ&sig2=KU4p5QYD6bkYfmyx-LtuMA
13:08.53tmzthttp://ynezz.ibawizard.net/loox720/pxa-utils/decodeLCCR
13:09.16tmztmelgurth: yes, but I mean the block from devices.c
13:09.31tmztthat address range might crash the device
13:10.06melgurthtmzt - I'm noob in this dumping stuff
13:10.15tmztpwf pxafb.bin 0x44000000 20
13:10.18tmztI think that's it
13:11.39melgurthok, and how about that telnet connection?
13:12.13tmztyeah, that will work
13:12.22tmztharetconsole does the same thing
13:12.58melgurthDUMP <addr> <size> ?
13:14.13tmztyeah
13:14.23tmztpwf writes to a file on the device
13:14.25tmztnot dump
13:14.26tmztpd
13:14.54melgurthok, something shows...
13:15.27tmztpaste it here
13:15.32melgurth03b008f9 17173d3f 0301053f 04f00013 8400fe92
13:15.36tmztgood
13:15.51tmzttake that script I posted and change the hex values in it, then run it with perl
13:16.33tmzthttp://ynezz.ibawizard.net/loox720/pxa-utils/decodeLCCR
13:17.41melgurthI must change $lccr0 = 0x01b008f9; to $lccr0 = 03b008f9; and so on?
13:17.56tmztyes
13:18.02tmztbut leave the 0x, it means it's hex
13:18.20melgurthok, but I have 5 values and script 4
13:19.39melgurthI've ran it with first 4 values and something show up
13:24.51tmztvsw = vsync_len
13:25.00tmztefw = bottom_margin
13:25.08tmztelw = right_margin
13:25.29tmztmake sure to add the 1 like it says
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13:35.38melgurthand how about that pixclock?
13:37.50tmztuse the value from zylonite
13:38.16tmztany value really, if there's a problem you'll see it, but the pxafb code usually figures out the pixelclock
13:39.02melgurthwow, I'm impressed with Your knowledge.... really
13:39.11melgurthrecompiling kernel...
13:41.10melgurthscrewd...
13:42.11captnoordcan you make a picture of the image?
13:44.44tmztdo you values match what you pasted +1?
13:45.06tmztand are you sure your using those values, did you remove the if check or whatever in zylonite?
13:49.04melgurthyes. I'm 100% sure
13:49.29melgurththrew out other LCD modes and forced to use one
13:50.06melgurthbut something is change. there is no white area
13:50.25melgurthbut it is screwd. photo coming up
13:53.08melgurthhttp://melgurth.ovh.org/files/P1010113.JPG
13:54.54tmztwhere did you get .sync?
13:55.07melgurth?
13:55.24tmztoh, this is 320x320?
13:55.30melgurth.sync is orginally 0
13:55.40melgurthjest it is square
13:55.41tmztyeah, originally where?
13:55.56melgurthin zylonite.c
13:56.02tmztleave it off
13:56.06tmzt'//
13:56.36melgurthomg. it is 1 now :/
13:57.09melgurthsorry didn't noticed
13:57.18tmztit's strange, it's as if fbcon is messed up now, not fb
13:58.10melgurthI must tell, that in previous setting, this also occures. it was random
13:58.45melgurth1) fb is correct
13:58.45melgurth2) fb is as now
13:58.45melgurth3) fb with white area on right
13:58.45tmztwhat's pixclock now?
13:58.58melgurth158000
13:59.03tmztwhite area on white is interesting
13:59.07tmzttry 110000
13:59.15tmztif you had a picture of that
13:59.29tmztbut it's likely the right_margin being too high and something else
13:59.52tmztwhite area on right
14:00.30melgurthand strangest thing in that white thing was that it leave strange mark on panel
14:00.55melgurthfor about 5 minutes this area has messed brightness/contrast
14:01.01melgurtheven after reboot
14:01.21tmzteven after reboot into ce?
14:01.31melgurthyes
14:01.42tmztvery strange
14:02.08melgurthrecompiled kernel, uploaded zImage, haret and it looks nice. I'll try few more times
14:04.36melgurthtmzt - do you have some testing initrd?
14:05.00tmztonly one, it doesn't have a shell
14:05.15tmztpeople.openezx.org/tmzt/initfs.img
14:05.33tmzthermes one should work
14:06.26melgurthis there any ethernet gadget support in it?
14:09.25melgurthinitrd is good, but don't have symlinks to busybox ;)
14:13.48melgurthand tmzt looks I own you a big THANKS. after 5 times all boots where proper :)
14:15.55tmztudc should work, but you might need a irq handler for vbus detection
14:18.37maejreptmzt: chances are its not cid 7 in that case
14:19.28tmztwell, can I dump something and find the ppp traffic?
14:20.08tmztprobe is getting everything in toc I think, but I need to add debugging for that so that even if some of the values are not NULL they might still have something in them
14:20.45tmztalso, it looks like no2chem has a way to use KITL now even if it's disabled, this mgiht make debugging/tracing easier
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14:22.51maejrepdump the first 5K or so of smem
14:23.23maejreppdump 0x1f00000 0x2000
14:23.32tmztthere should be seperate read write channels, but they will follow each other?
14:23.43maejrepnormally yes
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14:30.48tmzta lot of 00000000's in the middle of other values
14:30.54tmztbut nothing that looks like ppp data
14:31.07tmztconnected over wifi but I think ppp is still up
14:31.10tmztchecking
14:35.58tmzt2228c8xx is the table?
14:38.56tmzthttp://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/03/05/CE-KITL-instructions.aspx
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15:01.45tmztmaejrep: I see DATA5 ... DATA6 ... DATA7 where wiki says data1, 2, 3 should be
15:03.06tmztbd40: CS_A2M ...
15:03.52tmztwell, I found AT recv but we already know that works
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15:06.02tmztHaRET(11)# pd 0x01ff0000 0x100
15:06.02tmzt01ff0000 | 352c3520 55510a0d 4f434c41 49204d4d |  5,5..QUALCOMM I
15:06.02tmzt01ff0010 | 524f434e 41524f50 0d444554 0d37340a | NCORPORATED..47.
15:06.03tmzt01ff0020 | 3035370a 532d4a30 42424344 2d4d5a50 | .7500J-SDCBBPZM-
15:06.38tmztHaRET(12)# pd 0x01ff3fc8 0x100
15:06.38tmzt01ff3fc8 | 01560156 00490049 00000000 00000000 | V.V.I.I.........
15:06.39tmzt01ff3fd8 | 042c042c 012c012c 00000000 00000000 | ,.,.,.,.........
15:07.45tmztturn off data connection:
15:07.46tmztHaRET(16)# pd 0x01ff3fc8 0x100
15:07.46tmzt01ff3fc8 | 00160016 007d007d 00000000 00000000 | ....}.}.........
15:07.47tmzt01ff3fd8 | 043d043d 01380138 00000000 00000000 | =.=.8.8.........
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15:13.52tmztturning on data connection:
15:13.54tmztHaRET(99)# pd 0x01ff3fcc 0x100
15:13.54tmzt01ff3fcc | 00f500f5 00000000 00000000 0a0a0a0a | ................
15:13.55tmzt01ff3fdc | 024e024e 00000000 00000000 00000000 | N.N.............
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15:45.43tmzt41544144 00000035
15:46.06tmzt41544144 00000036
15:46.11tmzt41544144 00000037
15:46.47tmztba80 41544144 00000037
15:47.01tmztba90 00000000 0000000b
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15:48.15AstainHasPS3morning
15:48.34excogood morning
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16:01.11AstainHasPS3tmzt having fun with that smd chans?
16:01.22tmztsome
16:01.54tmztI should check the struct and see what the second word is
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16:02.09tmztI get DATA5 is 35
16:02.17opennandrahi all
16:02.18tmzt(hex)
16:02.33opennandrakaiser question where can I get kernel sources for kaiser
16:02.43tmztopennandra: vogue tree
16:02.48melgurth1omg... I found excellent initrd for testing
16:02.53tmztgit.linuxtogo.org kernel.git
16:02.58opennandrathanks
16:03.12melgurth1ftp://ftp.slackware.pl/pub/armedslack/armedslack-current/isolinux/initrd.img
16:04.34tmztok
16:04.42AstainHasPS3wow slackware for arm fun
16:05.20melgurth1really nice distro :)
16:05.23opennandratmzt: I just install latest  android build to kaiser but seems wifi is not working
16:05.27tmztmelgurth1: I think keyboard is matrix, if so you should be able to get it usable as a console pda
16:05.28opennandrai would like to look
16:05.31lamayou can't use words: slackware and fun in the same sentence
16:05.34tmztno wifi yet
16:05.46opennandraany effort in this area?
16:05.54tmztor did we find out it wasn't, lama?
16:06.02tmztmatrix keyboard
16:06.57lamait is matrix, and melgurth1 mapped most of the keys
16:07.24melgurth1yeah keyboard is almost perfect ;)
16:08.16melgurth1only thing I cannot do is Fn key which allow combination to get numbers
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16:08.32tmztcool
16:08.35lamatmzt: have you seen omni and i780 limo videos?
16:08.38tmztmap Fn to RIGHTALT
16:08.38lamaomnia
16:08.44tmztno,
16:08.48lamano? oh
16:09.00lamasamsung has shown it on MWC
16:09.03lamalet me find it
16:09.26melgurth1yeah samsung have kernel finished
16:09.57melgurth1I wish to get it into my hands...
16:10.00lamahttp://exabyte.es/omnia/2009/02/video-con-linux-corriendo-en-omnia/
16:10.12lamawell it's not so clear if it is finished
16:11.33lamaand about getting hands on it, we have to wait, but I doubt it will be easy way (read it NDA)
16:12.21lamaat least touchscreen works, keyaboard, X-server (limo is X based afaik), there is even opera (mobile? or desktop arm?) on this movie
16:12.48melgurth1camera
16:12.49lamasamsung is said to release 4 linux phones this year, one will be limo, and rest android
16:13.01tmztyeah, and that might help with the phone part later
16:13.25tmztbut melgurth1 is working on getting a linux kernel working, X should be possible and whatever applications you want
16:14.16melgurth1tmzt - got 2 big problems ahead
16:14.36tmztok
16:14.41melgurth1MMC cards and USB ethernet
16:14.54lamaI wonder if limo phone won't be from i780 family
16:15.07tmztmmc should work, you might need to find a gpio to enable it and one for card detect
16:15.11tmztpxa-mci
16:15.47tmztusb ethernet uses UDC which should also work with vbus detect gpio otg_transceiver
16:16.29lamai780like have too small screen for android, and i780 isn't obsolete in samsung eyes, saga and i907 are relatively new phones
16:16.52melgurth1tmzt - can we come back to this later? have some real-world things to do
16:16.54lamaso maybe they will release something similar to i780 with limo
16:17.11tmztsure
16:17.11lamamelgurth1: irc is real world
16:17.21melgurth1yeah...
16:17.34tmztlama: they've released a lot of things similar to i780, though I expect anything android to be MSM based
16:17.39melgurth1later
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16:18.42lamatmzt: I was told that samsung will focus on limo, and maybe own "distro"
16:19.31lamamaybe not focus - they don't see linux is android only
16:24.53lamaoh, there is Signal strength icon on this movie
16:27.57tmztlama: suprised about the LG stuff in that video, that's a linux OS on what could be a simple msm chipset
16:28.14tmztwell, no, that's the Incite, WM phone isn't it
16:28.25tmztit just looks similar to the others
16:29.36lamaLG promised to release 50 wm phones, lol
16:31.12lamaand LG was introduced on MWC as a main mobile phones partner for M$
16:31.26lamaso I doubt they will release anything with Linux
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16:38.49lamahttp://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=254&p=1894&g=2227&h=20486
16:38.52lamaheh
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16:39.15lamano win logo on key left from touchpad
16:39.18lama:)
16:40.29lamahttp://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=254&p=1894
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16:42.20melgurthguys, offtopic question. what irc client are you using/which suppose to be best? pidgin is crap :P
16:42.37boli^icechat works ok for me
16:43.16boli^i avoid mirc, tho there are those that like it
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16:55.43melgurthtmzt - about that MMC. what shall I do?
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17:50.34melgurthI'm a bit confused. what config should I chose to connect to my device via USB cable, CDC Ether, Ethernet gadget, USB serial...
17:52.48melgurthjust want to know what options are necessary to get ethernet connection
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18:04.26tsdogsBabelO: there?
18:22.25BabelOtsdogs: yes
18:24.45tsdogsBabelO: news on the translation :)
18:24.47tsdogs?
18:25.12BabelOsome more string. but i did not found time :(
18:25.58tsdogsok no prob.
18:52.25hechuhi, tsdogs . I am Chinese, do you need anything to translate to Chinese language?
18:52.39hechumaybe I can help.
18:53.04tsdogshechu: if you want to http://openupload.sourceforge.net/
18:53.11tsdogspretty OT though :)
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18:54.58hechutsdogs, I am reading the page.
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19:00.27BabelOtsdogs: i ve done template.po
19:00.34BabelOtsdogs: you want by mail ?
19:00.58tsdogssure mail is fine.
19:01.52tsdogshmm, screenshot link is broken :(
19:02.07BabelOtsdogs: but i need a context to see what fit the best
19:02.19BabelOsome are hard to do without context application
19:02.31BabelOtsdogs: mail sent to briosix
19:03.13tsdogshmm, ok. I'll be putting the app online somewhere so you can test it :)
19:03.19tsdogsthz
19:03.26tsdogss/z/x/
19:07.23tsdogsBabelO: maybe the screenshots can help you out?
19:07.31BabelOi think yes
19:08.29tsdogsok, let me know if you need further info.
19:08.35tsdogsgg, bbl. cya
19:17.08BabelOtsdogs i send you the second file too
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20:12.51tsdogshechu: thx for the translation. can you also translate the openupload.po ?
20:14.11hechutsdogs, yes I am doing now.
20:14.18tsdogsok :)
20:14.24hechuI got the file from BabelO.
20:15.23tsdogshechu: what is the iso for chineese ?
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20:16.43tsdogswould ZH be ok?
20:16.57tsdogsor zh-cn?
20:17.40hechutsdogs, template.po: ISO-8859 PO (gettext message catalogue) text
20:17.56hechutsdogs, I can open and read it in gedit.
20:18.06tsdogsok.
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20:20.39tsdogsok, but I thought that utf-8 would cover that :/
20:20.41hechutsdogs, zh_CN.GB2312 or zh_CN.GBK will be OK.
20:20.55tsdogsok
20:22.27BabelOtsdogs: you got the second file ?
20:24.06tsdogsBabelO: yes
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20:24.21tsdogsthank you :)
20:26.44BabelOtsdogs: can you do the italian translation on GT ?
20:27.01BabelObut more strings :)
20:27.25tsdogsI already started it, though it will take some time as there are many things I have no idea how to translate or what the mean :)
20:27.44tsdogstoo much geo there for me ;)
20:28.18BabelOi have looked a gg earth :) for somes
20:28.37tsdogslol
20:29.16tsdogsbbl, dinner time
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22:05.50BabelOtsdogs, around ?
22:06.06tsdogsBabelO: yep
22:06.21BabelOtsdogs, do you have a link to roadmap wince sources ?
22:06.50tsdogshmm, the cvs version should build for wince, but only from linux :)
22:07.28tsdogsprobably you better download the release
22:07.46tsdogsthere were a few commits lately which probably break some things
22:07.53tsdogshttp://roadmap.sf.net/
22:07.56BabelOi have to look how they manage the commport
22:08.25tsdogswell afair it uses gpsd ...
22:08.33BabelOnooo
22:08.45tsdogsmaybe on wince not ...
22:09.47tsdogslet me check
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22:11.04angryundeadhello
22:11.15BabelOtsdogs,it is std serial port call
22:11.32tsdogsBabelO: yep there is serial code there :)
22:11.36tsdogsangryundead: hi
22:11.57angryundeadi wanted to stop in, maybe ask a question about compiling the kernel from the htc-vogue branch if anyone has a moment.
22:12.56tsdogshmm, dunno if the ones working on vouge are here now, but ask and let's see :)
22:13.42angryundeadwell, its a general problem with compiling the kernel.  I was able to compile it a few days ago, then I did a "git pull" and got some errors.
22:13.45angryundeadarch/arm/mach-msm/built-in.o: In function `htc_battery_probe':
22:13.45angryundeadpm.c:(.text+0x6770): undefined reference to `power_supply_register'
22:13.48angryundeadand more along those lines
22:13.58angryundeadI suspect I'm missing something in my kernel config
22:15.12tsdogsmaybe u need to do a new configure? or it might also be broken.
22:15.25tsdogsdid git give u some conflicts?
22:16.24angryundeadit did, so i wiped all my changes and checked it out again.  i'm new to git.
22:16.51angryundeadi guess i'll just do a new configure from scracth wit the default config command.
22:17.22tsdogsif you do a git branch what does it tell you?
22:18.48angryundead* htc-vogue
22:18.48angryundead<PROTECTED>
22:20.04tsdogsif you do a git pull it tells you are already up to date?
22:20.59angryundeadgive me one sec
22:21.49angryundeadi started a build after doing
22:21.50angryundeadmake vogue_defconfig ARCH=arm; make menuconfig
22:21.57angryundeadit'll be done or fail in a bit
22:22.56tsdogsok
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22:26.06angryundeadthat fixed it
22:26.13angryundead*sigh*
22:26.22angryundeadnow all I have to do is go back in and config the options I want
22:26.36tsdogsgood :)
22:26.39angryundeadthanks tsdogs
22:26.45tsdogsnp
22:26.49angryundeadsometimes you just need someone else to remind you the instructions are around for a reason
22:31.14angryundeadi swear they moved ext2/ext3/jfs and all that on me
22:34.23angryundeadin File Systems those options are gone
22:34.24angryundead:(
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23:12.28cr2tsdogs: still here ?
23:12.40tsdogscr2: yep
23:12.47tsdogshi, long time he :)
23:13.01cr2hi :)
23:13.30cr2i want to return back to roadmap, GT/M and gps
23:13.51tsdogsgood, have you been following the roadmap ML lately?
23:14.13cr2some things in roadmap still hurt the eye
23:14.32cr2yes, but i can't write anything because i don't have an e-mail
23:14.54tsdogsdefenatly, I was going to try do a basic rendering on an osm sqlite db :)
23:15.17cr2the osm parser is really retarded
23:15.27cr2not techinically of course
23:15.45tsdogscr2: you need one e-mail?
23:15.47cr2but because of the hardcoded primitive layer model of 2002
23:16.21tsdogsI'd be totally in favor to a rdm structure change
23:17.10cr2yes, i'm thinking how to do e-mail is a reliable long-term way.
23:17.28cr2without google & co.
23:18.26tsdogsdefine long term :)
23:19.07cr2independent of the job
23:19.53cr2i still can use many of the addresses i had for 10 years
23:20.04cr2but it's not an optimal solution
23:20.46tsdogsok, I'll see if I can get one for you :)
23:20.55cr2:)
23:21.12cr2the .rdm is a suboptimal format
23:21.43cr2grmn .img is better, but kiozen criticises it too
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23:22.14cr2but he still does not do  routing in qlandkarte
23:22.41tsdogsI'm not the one to judge.
23:22.42cr2and there is no reasonable proposal for a new uniform sensible format
23:23.08tsdogsyep, haven't seen anybody going towards that.
23:23.42cr2everybody creates their own (look at osm clients), but still there is no comprehensible format
23:24.17tsdogsthat's why I wanted to experiment with sqlite, there is also spatialite :)
23:24.26tsdogsbut that'd be too much
23:24.29cr2but at least we can fix the obvious deficiencies in .rdm
23:24.38cr2i doubt that they are compact
23:24.49tsdogsyep the index beeing one of them
23:24.58cr2and their performance is really fine-tuned for a small device
23:25.23tsdogs? rdm
23:25.25cr2lol. you can use postgis directly
23:25.30tsdogslol
23:25.50cr2it's nice, well documented and very clean in object design.
23:26.06cr2but completely inappropriate :)
23:26.47tsdogswell it has some years were cpu power was important
23:26.56tsdogss/were/where/
23:27.01cr2i think that the most annoying misfeature of .rdm is the missing poi/point layer support
23:27.18tsdogsimho it's the too many objects
23:28.20tsdogsok also poi/points might be one, did I start something on that?
23:28.30cr2actually i'd like to feed a lot of data into postgis right now. we will see how it performs.
23:28.49cr2yes, you have mostly done point labels
23:29.02tsdogsbut it was a hack afair
23:29.06cr2but we also need to extend the .rdm
23:29.26tsdogsaren't points already supported?
23:29.33tsdogsin rdm I mean
23:29.34cr2to add the real point layer.
23:29.46tsdogshmm, ok i suppose not
23:29.51cr2the points are supported, but you can't attach any object to a point.
23:30.10cr2there are 'landmarks' in .rdm, they ave labels
23:30.23cr2but you can't really query them.
23:30.43tsdogswell, if you have point layers you can draw them depending on the layer they belong. though they could need a label
23:30.47cr2at least that's what remained in my L3 brain cache from that time :)
23:31.14tsdogslol
23:31.23cr2btw, afair there is poi support
23:31.35cr2bt it's done in a very ugly way
23:31.54cr2the poi layer must be in .gpx
23:32.05tsdogsroadmap_point.* is there
23:32.10tsdogsho
23:32.14cr2and the renderer uses weird gpsbabel gpx parser structures
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23:32.45cr2yes, the point as vertex in a polyline or a polygon.
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23:33.12tsdogsho ok
23:33.21cr2but not a point as an independed object
23:33.32cr2equal to line and polygon
23:33.46tsdogswhich should be similar to user landmarks
23:33.58cr2yes
23:34.06cr2but you don't want to parse gpx
23:34.21cr2but use fast mmaped .rdm access
23:34.31cr2like it's done for polylines and polygons
23:34.41tsdogssure, it only needs an id to point
23:34.43cr2i think it's the major design flaw in .rdm
23:34.56cr2maybe it was reasonable in 2002,
23:35.01cr2but not now.
23:35.21tsdogsit comes from tiger so probably there is no point in tiger
23:35.59cr2yes, there are many other weird things that came from tiger :)
23:36.30cr2like the non zero terminated strings
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23:36.49cr2and the strange layer model
23:36.50tsdogsok, first thing should be to change buildmap to include that data into rdm, but imho we will hit the "too many objects" easily
23:37.10cr2but the layer model was fixed in 1.1.x
23:37.19cr2no
23:37.38tsdogswas that fixed?
23:37.49cr2the too many (>0xffff) objects is a polygon design problem.
23:38.02cr2you can have as much points as you can.
23:38.19tsdogsho ok. it's the inclusion inside the polygon right, I getting old :)
23:38.20cr2because each line must have at least two points.
23:38.39cr2yes. and this limit is unacceptable
23:38.48cr2if you want to have houses.
23:39.12cr2but it can be worked around.
23:39.26cr2by splitting the map into pieces.
23:39.26tsdogsyeah splitting the polygons
23:39.49cr2no poi label support is a much bigger problem, imho
23:39.58cr2which is also much easier to fix.
23:40.04tsdogsok, the points should be trivial to add.
23:40.28cr2by extending/misusing the landmark api ?
23:40.29tsdogsadding new layers / Layer type and then rendering
23:40.59cr2i think they already have a layer...
23:41.11cr2hmm. i had some notes about it.
23:41.34tsdogsbut imho they should have different layers
23:41.42cr2but it's not easy to find them in this chaos, after i've moved.
23:41.52tsdogsone for each category like the streets
23:42.01tsdogslol
23:42.04cr2let me check.
23:42.11tsdogsbrb
23:47.14cr2void roadmap_landmark_draw_waypoint
23:47.15cr2<PROTECTED>
23:49.10tsdogsok but that one is not the landmark you are referrig to afair
23:49.19cr2waypoint is defined in gpx/defs.h
23:49.27tsdogsho
23:49.43cr2yes, but there is no other poi drawing api
23:49.56cr2and this one is very gpx specific
23:50.01cr2without any reason.
23:50.13cr2other than historical
23:51.10cr2it could have been void roadmap_landmark_draw_waypoint (const RoadmapPoi *po,...
23:51.14cr2or something like that
23:52.19tsdogsmaybe they wanted to handle some input from the gpx trak ?
23:53.10cr2it was easy to drop in the gpsbabel code into the source
23:54.11tsdogs:)
23:54.19cr2it's ok, when the number of pois is limited
23:54.44cr2but if you want to name many things, it's bad
23:54.49tsdogsI'd go in creating the point layers in buildmap and then adding the code to handle the drawing
23:55.01cr2because you miss the spatial point index, and so on.
23:55.16cr2leading to an unbelieavable waste of resources
23:55.59cr2look at the polygon landmarks
23:56.10cr2afair you have added polygon labels ?
23:56.19cr2is this code in mainline ?
23:56.48tsdogsyep, but as I sayd it looked more as a hack.
23:56.50tsdogsnope.
23:57.08tsdogsI might try to submit it for comments :)
23:57.23cr2ok
23:57.27cr2buildmap_polygon.c
23:57.40cr2int  buildmap_polygon_add_landmark
23:57.42cr2<PROTECTED>
23:57.55cr2the cfcc is there
23:58.01cr2so you have layer support
23:58.11cr2'char' is bad though
23:58.33cr2because that limits you to <128 layers

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