| 00:05.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: the same oops with booting while gps is enabled |
| 00:06.30 | cr2 | NetRipper: probably it's some arm9 rpc watchdog, which does not get a response from arm11, and goes crazy. |
| 00:07.10 | cr2 | afait the wince dmesg is full of some cryptic RPC messages |
| 00:20.41 | lupine_85 | woo, git:// is fixed too |
| 00:20.53 | lupine_85 | git://forest.lupine.me.uk/git/kernel.git |
| 00:21.38 | lupine_85 | has pointed the ltg peeps in the direction of some free hosting as well, but lieks his stopgaps |
| 00:32.23 | cr2 | is it taiwan or what ? http://navi.emome.net |
| 00:33.30 | cr2 | yes, looks like taiwan |
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| 02:31.13 | ppman | nvm, got it |
| 02:31.27 | ppman | thanks for logging all the irc stuff... great service :P |
| 02:32.07 | ali1234 | BabelO: i think you were right about WIFI and SDIO |
| 02:40.08 | BabelO | ali1234: on artemis there is megasim / wifi / sdio mode |
| 02:40.21 | ali1234 | what's megasim? |
| 02:40.56 | ali1234 | i think there's a gpio on wizard that basically selects whether the SDIO sees the card or the wifi module |
| 02:41.35 | ali1234 | it's definately GPIO related - i just copied *all* the regs from an EOL boot and wrote them from the mmc init |
| 02:41.43 | BabelO | ali1234: megasim, i don't know |
| 02:41.59 | BabelO | but on arte, there is two gpio to swit mode 0 1 2 3 |
| 02:42.10 | ali1234 | i think we were missing some other init stuff too |
| 02:42.12 | BabelO | each one have a specific function |
| 02:44.36 | BabelO | going to bed |
| 02:44.38 | BabelO | good night |
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| 02:49.25 | tmzt | ali1234: megasim is a sim with SD interface in addition to (??) the sim interface |
| 02:49.53 | tmzt | ali1234: at least from the pxa documentation that's what I understand, since it's connected to the mci mmc host |
| 02:52.02 | ali1234 | that means the MPU can access the sim? (on artemis) |
| 02:52.37 | ali1234 | i need to narrow down exactly which GPIOs i need to set, rather than "all of them" |
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| 03:12.04 | tmzt | ali1234: it means the sim is also an sd card, can't mpu access the sim now or is that just the radio? |
| 03:12.50 | tmzt | and I think the wifi/sd gpios are actually chip selects, it's not expected to only use one or the other, only that only one will respond to commands |
| 03:13.04 | tmzt | and the artemis probably doesn't have the megasim hardware |
| 03:13.46 | ali1234 | only the GSM can talk to the sim using the normal way |
| 03:14.06 | ali1234 | yes i agree about chip select: it's GPIO for CE |
| 03:14.31 | tmzt | is the wifi spi or sdio? |
| 03:14.37 | ali1234 | sdio it seems |
| 03:14.59 | tmzt | what happened when you programmed the registers the same way as eol |
| 03:15.20 | ali1234 | it worked perfectly |
| 03:15.43 | tmzt | ok, this is artemis not wizard? |
| 03:15.48 | ali1234 | this is wizard |
| 03:16.49 | ali1234 | i'm now searching to see exactly which gpio needs to be set |
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| 03:59.32 | madCoder- | <cr2> hehe. when it is really crashed, sending a dex cmd is not very useful. <-- right, but 1) we don't have any other way (ie, watchdog) to reboot, and 2) it was a proof of concept, to be sure it could actually reboot the phone (which it does, at least for me) |
| 04:04.32 | ali1234 | heh, i saw something like this in some code the other day: (void *)0 = 0; |
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| 06:38.50 | *** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup. |
| 06:49.45 | IceStar | hey |
| 06:49.51 | TheiPirate | hi |
| 06:49.57 | IceStar | hi TheiPirate` |
| 06:50.03 | TheiPirate | my battery lasted longer today |
| 06:50.04 | IceStar | are you htc developer |
| 06:50.07 | TheiPirate | still very close to death |
| 06:50.08 | TheiPirate | no |
| 06:50.11 | IceStar | then ? |
| 06:50.17 | IceStar | okey which cell you are using |
| 06:50.22 | tmzt | hello, IceStar |
| 06:50.24 | TheiPirate | tilt |
| 06:50.32 | tmzt | (kaiser) |
| 06:50.38 | IceStar | hey hi tmzt are you htc dev |
| 06:50.52 | IceStar | which one is that tilt ? |
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| 06:50.55 | tmzt | well, I try to answer questions |
| 06:51.14 | IceStar | okey who are you then ? tmzt |
| 06:51.17 | tmzt | but noone here is an HTC developer so not sure what you mean |
| 06:51.51 | tmzt | I mean this isn't an official channel or anything if that's what your looking for |
| 07:00.57 | IceStar | okey |
| 07:00.59 | IceStar | hummm.. |
| 07:01.08 | tmzt | do you have a question? |
| 07:01.12 | IceStar | tmzt: do you use linux |
| 07:01.16 | tmzt | yeah |
| 07:01.20 | IceStar | how you are related to htc ? |
| 07:01.45 | tmzt | people have bought phones made by them and want to run linux instead of windows mobile |
| 07:02.09 | IceStar | okey |
| 07:02.43 | IceStar | tmzt: which linux you are using on htc |
| 07:03.07 | tmzt | most are using Angstrom, some are now using android |
| 07:03.26 | IceStar | wow what is angstrom |
| 07:03.44 | IceStar | do you develop or bug find you do on it tmzt |
| 07:03.56 | tmzt | it's a mobile linux built with open embedded (OE) |
| 07:04.24 | tmzt | I work some with the kernel and some with the different user environments |
| 07:04.40 | tmzt | I don't use OE or build a full image myself |
| 07:05.05 | IceStar | okey nice tmzt nice to know you |
| 07:05.20 | IceStar | tmzt: is linux on htc good enough |
| 07:06.19 | tmzt | for what and for what device? |
| 07:07.13 | IceStar | arm device |
| 07:07.28 | tmzt | not an HTC? |
| 07:07.29 | IceStar | with 128 ram gpu |
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| 07:07.35 | tmzt | ah, what gpu |
| 07:07.49 | IceStar | htc is just a firm who just markets cell phones |
| 07:08.01 | tmzt | yes |
| 07:08.12 | IceStar | graphic processors unit |
| 07:08.19 | tmzt | yes, which one |
| 07:09.17 | IceStar | well you can get manufactured a one |
| 07:09.29 | IceStar | one manufactured ^^ |
| 07:09.43 | IceStar | and market it with linux if linux is good enough it will sell |
| 07:09.54 | IceStar | just like nokia or any other |
| 07:10.03 | tmzt | yeah, that's what Google and T-Mobile are doing now with android |
| 07:10.09 | tmzt | but there device is made by htc |
| 07:10.39 | tmzt | practically, if you want a phone with qwerty keyboard capable of running linux, htc is the one |
| 07:10.46 | tmzt | there are other options now though |
| 07:11.55 | IceStar | okey like |
| 07:12.04 | IceStar | asus or samsung |
| 07:12.47 | tmzt | asus is working on some MSM windows mobile phones which should be usable for linux |
| 07:13.03 | tmzt | google released MSM kernel source last year which is where most of the focus is here now |
| 07:13.40 | tmzt | samsung has the omnia's and i780's at least with pxa3xx cpu |
| 07:13.44 | IceStar | what is msm, ? |
| 07:13.48 | tmzt | and some CDMA phones with msm |
| 07:14.10 | tmzt | MSM is the qualcomm cpu, the current version (msm7x00) has an arm11 and an arm9 core |
| 07:14.12 | IceStar | pxa3xx works with msm kernal |
| 07:14.19 | IceStar | okey |
| 07:14.21 | tmzt | linux runs on the arm11 core |
| 07:14.23 | tmzt | no |
| 07:14.33 | IceStar | humm.. |
| 07:14.34 | tmzt | pxa3xx has support in linux already |
| 07:14.42 | IceStar | okey good |
| 07:14.51 | IceStar | what is its frequency |
| 07:15.09 | tmzt | not sure, somewhere around 600mhz I think |
| 07:15.33 | tmzt | might be lower, the pxa270's were 416mhz or so |
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| 07:15.56 | tmzt | if you're looking for a GPU, the OMAP3 might be what you need |
| 07:16.01 | IceStar | okey humm.. |
| 07:16.12 | tmzt | but it's difficult to get good driver support for that right now I think |
| 07:16.17 | IceStar | okey I have gpu core ? |
| 07:16.29 | IceStar | omap3 is made by ? |
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| 07:16.50 | sue | hi |
| 07:16.56 | sue | anyone here have an apache? |
| 07:16.57 | tmzt | hello |
| 07:17.10 | tmzt | tekkdrone, not here right now |
| 07:17.12 | tmzt | ah |
| 07:17.37 | calamari | okay |
| 07:17.40 | calamari | how about another model |
| 07:17.44 | tmzt | do you have a question about apache |
| 07:17.50 | calamari | is the stylus made completely of plastic? |
| 07:18.12 | tmzt | yeah, you'd have to ask tekk or parmaster maybe |
| 07:18.13 | calamari | I thought I saw pics where the shaft was metal |
| 07:18.23 | calamari | I assumed most htc's would be similar |
| 07:18.38 | calamari | do you not have an htc phone? that'd be funny hehe |
| 07:18.52 | tmzt | I think they are metal, the only plastic ones I've seen where older palms and the royal davinci |
| 07:18.58 | tmzt | yeah |
| 07:19.04 | tmzt | no htc phone |
| 07:19.08 | TheiPirate | plastic tip |
| 07:19.13 | TheiPirate | metal pipe |
| 07:19.15 | TheiPirate | then plastic cap |
| 07:19.23 | tmzt | nylon? |
| 07:19.24 | IceStar | tmzt: does omap3 has gpu core ? |
| 07:19.33 | tmzt | yeah, it has SGX like iPhone |
| 07:19.46 | tmzt | look at openpandora or beagleboard |
| 07:20.51 | IceStar | okey |
| 07:20.53 | calamari | thanks :) |
| 07:21.03 | calamari | I knew this piece of crap plastic thing wasn't original |
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| 07:36.21 | ttols | somebody here using rw6100?? |
| 07:37.02 | ttols | I'm looking for the way that uploading linux on rw6100. |
| 07:37.23 | tmzt | hello again, please go to wiki.xda-developers.com and see which HTC name it is |
| 07:37.23 | ttols | rw6100 is PDA, and Im korean :) |
| 07:37.43 | ttols | tmzt oh~ thx :( |
| 07:37.46 | ttols | :) |
| 07:46.05 | tmzt | ttols: http://www.slashphone.com/100/781.html |
| 07:46.45 | ttols | tmzt: wow! |
| 07:47.19 | tmzt | cancelled?? |
| 07:47.46 | tmzt | it's pxa270 at 520mhz |
| 07:48.58 | tmzt | it might be htc but I don't know, but it should be possible to support linux on it |
| 07:49.13 | tmzt | the pxa framebuffer timings have to be dumped with haret |
| 07:49.26 | tmzt | then a kernel has to be built based on magician.c |
| 07:50.10 | tmzt | the question is if it has the asic chips like the HTC's, but since we don't have a model name for this we don't really have a lot of information |
| 07:50.34 | tmzt | http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=369&view=1 |
| 07:58.31 | tmzt | ttols: what does your under battery label say |
| 07:59.23 | ttols | tmzt: what can I say? number? |
| 07:59.32 | tmzt | yeah |
| 07:59.38 | tmzt | letters and numbers |
| 07:59.44 | tmzt | not your IMEI |
| 08:00.07 | ttols | tmzt:P/N?? or S/N?? |
| 08:00.11 | tmzt | P/N |
| 08:00.27 | ttols | FA294PA#AB1 |
| 08:01.00 | ttols | tmzt: but why you need this number? |
| 08:01.13 | tmzt | to find out what htc device it is |
| 08:01.25 | tmzt | http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258643.html |
| 08:01.42 | ttols | tmzt: oh~ |
| 08:02.45 | tmzt | http://h50177.www5.hp.com/support/FA294PA/more_info_local_18318.html |
| 08:02.56 | tmzt | can you find out the filename of the .nbh at that page? |
| 08:02.59 | tmzt | I can't read it |
| 08:04.17 | tmzt | LG? |
| 08:04.18 | ttols | I can't read too. |
| 08:04.22 | ttols | yes |
| 08:04.50 | tmzt | http://chunma.yu.ac.kr/~m0721742/n_list/list_ppc/hp/rw6100.htm |
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| 08:05.49 | tmzt | wow, this could be some useful information about CE.net |
| 08:06.53 | tmzt | well if it's LG not HTC it could be a lot more work but the basic kernel should still work |
| 08:07.01 | tmzt | screen and probably keys |
| 08:07.42 | ttols | it is LG! |
| 08:07.55 | tmzt | ok |
| 08:08.54 | ttols | tmzt: I wonder at this time. do you read korean? |
| 08:09.00 | tmzt | no |
| 08:09.48 | ttols | tmzt: okay, you are very well to find information! good :) |
| 08:10.02 | tmzt | I just typed in those letters you gave me |
| 08:10.11 | tmzt | they look like an HP model number actually |
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| 08:21.09 | tmzt | ttols: if you come back we can work on this some time, I need to go now |
| 08:23.12 | ttols | tmzt: sure! |
| 08:23.17 | ttols | thx tmzt! |
| 08:23.28 | ttols | I will be back later. |
| 09:00.10 | stamppot | Question: the current Android image for HTC DIAM100 seems to omit the USB debugging bridge. |
| 09:00.37 | stamppot | Is this simply an omission in the image (not compiled/packaged) or are we missing kernel functionality to make this work? |
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| 10:01.43 | dcordes | hi |
| 10:02.04 | dcordes | stamppot it was disabled in the kernel afaik |
| 10:03.12 | dcordes | that's the zImage, not related to your rootfs with androed |
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| 10:12.15 | stamppot | Ah... Too bad... |
| 10:12.49 | stamppot | Had hoped that I could try to work with my little test-application on my Diamond as well |
| 10:13.14 | stamppot | Is this just a disabled kernel option or is additional coding necessary? |
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| 10:16.54 | markya23 | lo |
| 10:17.17 | markya23 | is anyone on familier with dzo's android kaiser ril implementation? |
| 10:19.33 | markya23 | (does anyone know when dzo tends to be online?) :) |
| 10:20.25 | dzo | I'm here now but not for long. |
| 10:20.56 | markya23 | Fantastic! Mind if I ask you a dumb question? |
| 10:21.10 | dzo | ok... |
| 10:21.32 | markya23 | I've been poking around with some RIL debugging to see if I can firgure out why we don't get a 3g icon. |
| 10:22.34 | markya23 | Was wondering whether you were sending +CGREG or just +CREG in response to GPRS_REGISTRATION_STATE? |
| 10:22.36 | dzo | I don't know why either, doesn't bother me though, there is an option in build.prop that may help. |
| 10:22.47 | markya23 | Cos I can only see evidence of +CREG in the logs! |
| 10:23.40 | markya23 | Do you have your RIL source code available - would be v helpful if I could take a quick look at it! :) |
| 10:25.02 | markya23 | (I'm trying to get concurrent data and voice to work in HSDPA areas and it seems that Android knowing it's in 3G coverage is a prereq) |
| 10:25.31 | dzo | yes, it's at http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/rilsource.tgz |
| 10:25.49 | markya23 | Cool! Thanks (and great work btw) :) |
| 10:25.51 | dzo | and you are right, it only sends CREG. |
| 10:26.25 | dzo | I didn't change the reference ril that much so perhaps it does that too. |
| 10:26.35 | dzo | I'll just check. |
| 10:26.40 | markya23 | The stupid thing is that I don't think my current radio responds correctly to CGREG but it *should* work :) |
| 10:26.59 | markya23 | I think there was a typo in one of the early reference RILs. They seem to have changed it now. |
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| 10:28.14 | dzo | hmm, looks like I changed it, perhaps it didn't work for me either. |
| 10:30.19 | markya23 | I'm going to try going to a 1.71 radio but I've got to get a bit more charge in the battery first :) |
| 10:30.48 | dcordes | stamppot check git log |
| 10:32.27 | stamppot | Thanks dcordes, will do! |
| 10:32.32 | dzo | markya23: that tgz was a bit out of date, get it again and it will be the latest. |
| 10:33.34 | dzo | hi dcordes, do you still have a kaiser, not heard much from you recently. |
| 10:33.45 | markya23 | Got it - thanks! |
| 10:41.57 | imfloflo | dzo do you thinks its possible to have a virtual keyboard or we must wait the HTC magic release ? |
| 10:43.44 | dzo | not in 1.1, vogue has my simple portrait kbd, it wouldn't be hard to port that to other devices. |
| 10:47.03 | imfloflo | that isn't the cupcake keyboard we have in the previous release ? |
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| 11:01.27 | imfloflo | dzo on polaris when the screen is lock and receive a sms the display is split on 2 part wrong alignement |
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| 13:58.55 | NetRipper | cr2, sorry havent been around much.. im losing a lot of time on other projects |
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| 14:00.29 | NetRipper | lupine_85, hi, have you mirrored ltg because it's down sometimes or do you have bigger plans? :) |
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| 14:23.23 | AstainHasPS3 | morning NetRipper |
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| 14:32.10 | captnoord | zooo |
| 14:35.00 | AstainHasPS3 | zooo? |
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| 16:04.55 | lupine_85 | NetRipper: because it's slow as hell right now :p |
| 16:05.05 | lupine_85 | but I'm likely to set up an autobuilder at some point |
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| 16:21.17 | Marajin | allo allo |
| 16:22.34 | captnoord | yo |
| 16:22.48 | captnoord | finaly fixed sync stuff on my ubuntu... damn I feel such a noob |
| 16:23.36 | Marajin | haha |
| 16:23.38 | Marajin | why what was up? |
| 16:24.10 | captnoord | nah I couldn't sync with my mobile as I refuse to use outlook |
| 16:24.31 | captnoord | and for a while despretly trying to sync on ubuntu |
| 16:24.42 | captnoord | but just didn't used the correct programs as it now seems |
| 16:26.05 | captnoord | and now I would like to have some pointers if people are around on the use of Haret |
| 16:26.17 | captnoord | and what sort of info is harvested from that |
| 16:26.34 | Marajin | captnoord: cr2 might be a good one to ask |
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| 16:27.02 | Marajin | wb captnoord |
| 16:27.07 | captnoord | thats was a oeps |
| 16:27.07 | Marajin | captnoord: cr2 might be a good one to ask |
| 16:27.10 | captnoord | or a woeps |
| 16:27.11 | captnoord | yea I know |
| 16:27.19 | captnoord | but we don't seem to get along very well |
| 16:27.30 | captnoord | and its kinda my fault as I goofed around to much in the beginning |
| 16:28.28 | captnoord | besides cr2 isn't around atm |
| 16:28.48 | captnoord | and NetRipper is busy with work |
| 16:28.49 | captnoord | and stuff |
| 16:28.50 | captnoord | so |
| 16:28.56 | TheiPirate | weird i left my battery charging all night and it only gets to 90% now |
| 16:29.00 | TheiPirate | instead of 94 |
| 16:29.00 | captnoord | i'm hoping I won't break stuff |
| 16:29.30 | captnoord | hides away from the batterycharging discussion |
| 16:29.57 | captnoord | I don't know if the htc's have overload protection..... |
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| 16:30.40 | captnoord | TheiPirate: can you try to drain your phone totaly |
| 16:30.48 | captnoord | so it won't boot and stuff |
| 16:30.56 | captnoord | and then charge it again |
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| 16:32.13 | captnoord | is pondering because there has to be a way to reset the battery charging system |
| 16:32.31 | TheiPirate | maybe |
| 16:33.29 | captnoord | what I think and its kinda based on what I've learned is that it has a current sensor... that records current.. but when its fully charged it still consumes a bit of energy |
| 16:33.51 | captnoord | which increases the max capacity variable of the battery |
| 16:34.05 | captnoord | making the system think the battery has more capacity than it actualy has |
| 16:34.06 | captnoord | then |
| 16:34.16 | captnoord | if the battery drains |
| 16:34.29 | captnoord | the system is unable to get to the same high point |
| 16:34.34 | captnoord | or |
| 16:34.38 | captnoord | you broke your battery |
| 16:34.40 | captnoord | also possible |
| 16:34.40 | captnoord | :P |
| 16:35.22 | TheiPirate | probably |
| 16:35.27 | TheiPirate | it died twice before |
| 16:35.32 | TheiPirate | under 10% |
| 16:36.06 | TheiPirate | im turning it off then charging |
| 16:37.10 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 16:37.16 | captnoord | I wish I knew for sure |
| 16:40.43 | TheiPirate | full charged now |
| 16:40.53 | TheiPirate | android must have been mis calculating it |
| 16:41.07 | captnoord | floating point crap |
| 16:43.17 | TheiPirate | i thikn at 30% accordin to android, the battery is really at 10%ish |
| 16:43.36 | TheiPirate | from what has happened to me twice |
| 16:43.40 | TheiPirate | it died at 30% |
| 16:43.44 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 16:43.56 | captnoord | can you use the api's to get the batt stuff |
| 16:44.11 | captnoord | because I know the batt settings are set in the init's |
| 16:44.21 | captnoord | meaning the base value's might be off |
| 16:44.50 | TheiPirate | now it says 96% :D |
| 16:44.53 | TheiPirate | in android |
| 16:44.57 | TheiPirate | weird stuff! |
| 16:48.13 | captnoord | yup |
| 16:48.18 | Marajin | heh |
| 16:48.24 | Marajin | batteries die |
| 16:48.27 | Marajin | it's what they do |
| 16:49.24 | captnoord | nah |
| 16:49.34 | captnoord | software float stuff usualy sucks |
| 16:49.46 | captnoord | and unless you'r fully aware of the error you have |
| 16:49.53 | captnoord | your gonna screw up in a way |
| 16:50.03 | TheiPirate | later guys |
| 16:50.08 | captnoord | k |
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| 16:54.13 | Marajin | but the HTC phones rarely have the laptop depth of stuff to judge battery yeah |
| 16:54.19 | Marajin | so they're not terribly accurate |
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| 17:31.53 | orux | maejrep, hello |
| 17:33.33 | orux | maejrep, I am not sure if you have display problem corrected. |
| 17:34.04 | orux | maejrep, this works with blackstone, .25 and .27 kernels |
| 17:34.22 | orux | all the path in rgb565 mode |
| 17:34.32 | orux | mddi_remote_write(mddi,0x8000,0x400);//rgb565 input |
| 17:34.42 | orux | mddi_remote_write(mddi,0x8000,0x680);//Window Software Reset |
| 17:34.43 | orux | mddi_remote_write(mddi,0x4000,0x600);//LCD Interface Register Update |
| 17:34.52 | orux | finally |
| 17:35.03 | orux | mdp dma in rgb565 mode: dma2_cfg |= DMA_DSTC0G_6BITS | DMA_DSTC1B_5BITS | DMA_DSTC2R_5BITS; |
| 17:35.47 | orux | I think this path can be used in any epson lcd controller device |
| 17:36.38 | orux | And we save 33% video memory. Because if the input is in rgb666 format, it is stored in rgb888 format. |
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| 19:28.48 | captnoord | lol |
| 19:28.48 | captnoord | re |
| 19:28.48 | captnoord | part 2 |
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| 20:22.15 | captnoord | yo |
| 20:22.31 | captnoord | shouldn't have imported the entire repo into codelite |
| 20:22.37 | captnoord | damn importing takes forever |
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| 21:06.57 | captnoord | waves around |
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| 21:13.05 | captnoord | yo cr2 you have some time to point me out some stuff? |
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| 21:23.12 | kiozen | cr2: svn up GT, it has OSM tile server integration now |
| 21:47.29 | cr2 | kiozen: don't have it on the local disk |
| 21:47.46 | kiozen | cr2: that's a crime :P |
| 21:47.50 | cr2 | kiozen: have you tried to compile qtextended ? |
| 21:47.55 | cr2 | yes, i know :) |
| 21:48.06 | kiozen | qtextended ?? |
| 21:48.20 | cr2 | topia |
| 21:49.24 | cr2 | i have GT (and all other source code) on the external udb disk |
| 21:49.35 | cr2 | but now i booted off the main hdd |
| 21:50.13 | kiozen | currently I use qt-embedded |
| 21:50.35 | kiozen | that is much more fun than weired qtopia |
| 21:50.45 | cr2 | http://www.qtextended.org |
| 21:51.22 | cr2 | i think it's a pity to lose the ability to use phone |
| 21:52.32 | cr2 | hm. it seems i need to patch gpsbable osm output modules |
| 21:58.51 | kiozen | cr2: imho M should compile with that, too |
| 22:01.30 | cr2 | ok, but we need a minimal rootfs for testing |
| 22:06.46 | captnoord | yo cr2 you have some time to help me |
| 22:07.01 | captnoord | or you simply don't want to help me |
| 22:07.25 | cr2 | captnoord: have not seen your question |
| 22:09.00 | captnoord | my main question is how to interpetate the info haret is giving me, what means what, how can I use it to harvest info |
| 22:10.04 | captnoord | is the ms6550 pdf the only development resource out there ( as its terrible out dated ) or are there other documents |
| 22:10.13 | captnoord | msm6550 pdf* |
| 22:11.07 | cr2 | 6550 is the phone chipset on the universal. |
| 22:11.13 | cr2 | without any user access |
| 22:11.45 | cr2 | captnoord: the only reliable reference is the disassembled wince code. unfortunately |
| 22:12.27 | cr2 | captnoord: what do you want to learn with haret ? |
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| 22:13.03 | captnoord | I kinda understand it uses how windows manages memory ( open form ) to sniff for info |
| 22:13.31 | captnoord | but what I read is that the offsets written into the research wiki are from disasmbling the wince code? |
| 22:13.33 | cr2 | it can trap accesses to/from the virtual memory |
| 22:13.55 | cr2 | yes. and from the g1 source |
| 22:13.58 | captnoord | but its hard to gather info from that |
| 22:14.12 | captnoord | and the g2 source.... as its been getting patches in the main android repo |
| 22:14.13 | cr2 | but there is no any other reference |
| 22:14.24 | captnoord | which in fact shows some similaritys to the raphael code |
| 22:14.30 | cr2 | these are only minor patches |
| 22:14.52 | captnoord | true, but in a way can be used as a weak reference |
| 22:14.57 | cr2 | no, our core problems are in the area where g1/g2 code is of no use |
| 22:15.26 | captnoord | okey..... |
| 22:15.57 | captnoord | okey lets say i'm not that bad in reverse enginering what should I do to help the project |
| 22:16.45 | cr2 | the rpc operation |
| 22:16.59 | captnoord | the R.P.C is? |
| 22:17.33 | cr2 | a way of interprocessor communication on msm phones |
| 22:17.54 | cr2 | another one is dex/proc_comm, but we have decoded it to 98% |
| 22:18.28 | captnoord | so my todo would look like |
| 22:18.31 | captnoord | dump my rom |
| 22:18.45 | captnoord | and start sniffing around |
| 22:19.08 | captnoord | or you have a specific device driver that contains all the info |
| 22:19.49 | captnoord | also I assume that this info is already coded for the G1 and is in the android repo can I use that as a reference or would that be totaly useless |
| 22:19.54 | cr2 | i think it's the 'rpccall' SMD channel |
| 22:20.07 | cr2 | the rest is a lot of software layers on top |
| 22:20.20 | captnoord | wrappers and such |
| 22:20.49 | cr2 | you should check the g1 implementation, but also the code of dzo for vogue/kaiser |
| 22:21.01 | captnoord | k |
| 22:21.22 | cr2 | probably you should start with trying to trace the RPCCALL channel |
| 22:21.45 | captnoord | i'll have a look around |
| 22:22.14 | captnoord | I may ask you the biggest noob questions if its okey with you. |
| 22:23.15 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:24.24 | cr2 | i'll try to check the wiki data on smem now. |
| 22:24.42 | captnoord | k |
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| 22:28.15 | balsat | I need my weekly git fix... where is netripper? ;>) |
| 22:28.25 | captnoord | lol |
| 22:28.27 | cr2 | LOL |
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| 22:57.36 | Marajin | captnoord: So I see cr2 didn't glue your gonads to a speeding train for asking him questions, I suppose he doesn't dislike you after all ;) |
| 22:59.24 | captnoord | Marajin: hmmm I kinda scare people away when I act like this, it has a reason but its not one I am going to share atm.... |
| 23:00.07 | captnoord | and when I get to the point i'm able to rest and evaluate I try ask people to help me on my way |
| 23:00.10 | captnoord | before that point |
| 23:00.19 | captnoord | its useless because I will simply forget it |
| 23:03.30 | einand | I realy hate this, are google android limited by country |
| 23:04.42 | balsat | nope |
| 23:05.53 | einand | why cant i log in then. Browser, Maps etc. works, but its time out when i try to active my google account |
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| 23:07.26 | balsat | On what phone? |
| 23:07.56 | einand | kaiser |
| 23:08.13 | einand | swedish edition. |
| 23:23.12 | einand | balsat: also i get another problem with androdi, sometims it belevs i'm roaming |
| 23:25.48 | balsat | Sounds strange... I dont have a kaiser so i cant help you, but mabye you should ask on #android-dev |
| 23:26.10 | einand | balsat: ok, i'll try that |