IRC log for #htc-linux on 20090226

00:05.15captnoordok
00:05.20captnoordits official
00:05.24captnoordI have no clue where to start
00:05.47captnoordwill continue tomorrow
00:05.55captnoordi will ask around for pointers
00:05.55captnoordso
00:05.58captnoordhave fun all
00:06.00captnoordand sleep well
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00:24.11maejrepcr2: I'm here :p
00:24.17maejrepjust hectic at work :/
00:25.13maejreptonight i'm gonna make sure everything I started mucking around with still works, then I'll try to get patches ready for git
00:29.55maejrephmm
00:29.58maejrep[   11.552415] msmfb_probe() installing 480 x 640 panel
00:29.58maejrep[   16.640306] msmfb_pan_display timeout rerequest vsync
00:29.58maejrep[   16.653947] msmfb_start_dma 5006.072 ms after vsync request
00:29.59maejrep[   21.640275] msmfb_pan_display timeout waiting for frame start, 2 1
00:30.12maejrepbetween the msmfb_probe and msmfb_pan_display lines, the lcd stops drawing
00:34.15lupine_85yays at his accounts
00:37.00cr2maejrep: i have added all amss sections to wiki
00:37.18maejrepwhat page?
00:38.04maejrepcr2: have any ideas for my msmfb problem? :x
00:42.06maejrephttp://i.gizmodo.com/5159399/sheevaplug-a-99-linux-pc-crammed-inside-a-wall-plug
00:44.51lupine_85hee, cute
00:45.00lupine_85now if only they did 'em on UK plugs
00:48.07ali1234why would you want 99 linux pcs inside one plug?
00:48.55lupine_85oh, very good :p
00:49.00captnoordmaejrepcr2: have any ideas for my msmfb problem? :x
00:49.15captnoordthe vsync request takes 5 seconds?
00:50.22captnoordso the pan display timeout is 5 seconds
00:50.27captnoordcan't make that shorter
00:50.31captnoordhmmm
00:50.35captnoordgoes to sleep
00:50.39captnoordto much thinking
00:50.42captnoordhave fun
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02:26.31tekkdroneKevin2: you lurking about?
02:31.10tekkdronewell, those of you that have projects on linuxtogo, how does one go about configuring their account for usage with gitweb?
02:32.58tekkdroneI've tried creating my project repo and adding the typical export markers for either gitweb or gitdaemon, to no avail
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03:19.54Kevin2tekkdrone: Hi
03:21.28Kevin2Just create a directory somewhere under /home/ and create a file git-daemon-export-ok in the directory.
03:21.58Kevin2If you're trying to get the gitweb interface to work, you need to give it a day - the cron that scans for new entries only runs once a day.
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03:43.13calamarihi
03:45.18tekkdroneKevin2: ahhhhh, I was on point, just didn't consider it might be cron'd, thanks
03:45.47tekkdrone'lo calamari
03:46.21calamarihi tekkdrone.. sorry I probably came across as a clueless idiot on your blog haha
03:46.45tekkdronenot at all
03:47.29calamaribut if you have anything that you need help with, please let me know.. there's another guy on a linux mailing list here in town who would also like to help
03:48.36tekkdroneright on, and to answer your question I should have the source available on a git repository in the next 24 hours, have to recreate the repo and wait for cron to add me (remote host)
03:49.14calamaridoes the audio stuff work?
03:49.19calamarimic and such
03:49.37tekkdroneinbound only atm, haven't really approached audio yet
03:49.53calamaricool, maybe we can help there then
03:50.28tekkdronepossibly, the next thing on the list is getting egpio working, it's pretty much the precursor to the rest of the hardware remaining
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03:59.10swc|666tekkdrone, which device?
03:59.22tekkdronethe apache, 6700
04:00.28swc|666i thought about getting an apache to play with... only two things that turns me off personally is 64mb + cdma, but still a cool device nonetheless
04:02.11calamariunfortunately, cdma is cheaper .. I can get unlimited everything for $45/mo .. with gsm, that's at least $75
04:02.27tekkdroneaye, the memory limitation sucks
04:03.44tekkdroneand I'm in the us so the only large-scale gsm providers are t-mobile and at&t
04:04.42calamariexactly
04:04.56calamariand I guess at&t is still routing calls thru the NSA?
04:05.20tekkdronefrankly I think they all are, but I digress
04:05.23tekkdronelol
04:05.59calamariI was really close to getting a G1.. but where's the challenge?
04:06.25calamariand I'm a cheap bastard
04:06.30tekkdronemy co-worker likes it, but bitches about battery life all the time
04:06.50tekkdronethough I could say the same for the 'ol apache
04:07.15calamariI was reading about a 2400mah battery upgrade.. thought I'd see what the life was like first
04:07.41tekkdronepretty decent for the first year on a new battery, but like most cellphones, shite after that
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05:29.20dan-vogue-titanhmm, quiet room....
05:30.40AstainHasPS3looks like you missed maejrep dan-vogue-titan
05:30.58dan-vogue-titanhe the loud one?
05:31.17AstainHasPS3he's the one that is working on raph800 primarily
05:31.27dan-vogue-titannice
05:31.58dan-vogue-titanwho's the titan guru?
05:32.28AstainHasPS3titan is some chinese guy
05:32.47AstainHasPS3http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/
05:34.13dan-vogue-titansweet, seems to be advancing quite well
05:34.39AstainHasPS3yah it works better than wimo imho
05:34.41AstainHasPS3on titan anyway
05:35.37dan-vogue-titanyeah, I might as well start messing with it, titan just sits in a drawer these days
05:36.00AstainHasPS3I used to have a titan
05:36.12AstainHasPS3but I got it insurance upgraded to a TP
05:36.38dan-vogue-titandoes it work on hc cards with titan?
05:36.48AstainHasPS3think so
05:37.25dan-vogue-titanhope so, 2 gig is mia... hmmm
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06:04.29tmzttekkdrone: hey, is you titan image the same as dzo's vogue now?
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06:24.06tekkdronetmzt: i was working on the apache, and negative on that though I did use his ril patch in an earlier test build, i've yet to apply it to the .27 associated android ril
06:25.32tmztyeah, which is why I suggested someone ask you about apache yesterday
06:25.37tmztso I'm not thinking again
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06:25.59tekkdroneno sweat :)
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07:42.09Untouchab1eGood morning :)
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08:00.53TheiPirateit is late i shouldnt ask questions or state things but
08:01.28TheiPiratei think the power man apps sees full battery at 94, not sure if that # is useful
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11:19.42captnoordwaves around
11:21.01Untouchab1enods back
11:22.20captnoordrequests to steal research info... to start on his raph
11:22.45captnoordI know I can connect to my mobile trough telnet while its running haret
11:22.54captnoordbut... what does haret exactly dump
11:25.46captnoordit dumps mem offsets
11:25.55captnoordand stuff
11:32.47captnoordkills ISP
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12:23.05captnoordkills ISP
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13:20.02Marajinyo
13:20.33henkstubbenyo
13:20.39Marajinhow goes?
13:20.42Marajinah hey Captnoord
13:20.47Captnoordhome
13:20.48Captnoordisp sucks
13:20.52Marajinheh
13:20.54Captnoordand writing a song
13:20.55Marajinit happens
13:21.04Captnoordbut i'm crashed after the first line
13:21.05Captnoord:P
13:21.31Captnoordbecause my isp sucks I managed to read more about git
13:21.40Captnoordand got a reference checkout now
13:21.40Captnoord:D
13:21.42Captnoordlol
13:22.16Marajinheh
13:22.26Marajinwell I can't compile anything from git, the toolchain just segfaults
13:22.33Captnoord?
13:22.40Marajinit's odd cause it does compile a few files first, then it segfaults
13:22.53Marajinalways the same file it segfaults on too
13:22.58Captnoordeven that I don't know exactly how and such
13:23.04Captnoordyou have the latest gcc and stuff?
13:23.18Marajinsure, gentoo system, tends to be constantly up to date
13:24.03Captnoordbecause I just did a fresh checkout
13:24.03Captnoordand compiled it
13:24.03Captnoordnothing special
13:25.48Marajinyeah, it's odd
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13:28.50MarajinI guess I'll do a fresh gitclone but I figure it's the toolchain
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13:29.38Marajinwhoops? ;)
13:29.47captnoordnope
13:29.50captnoordisp
13:29.54captnoordgonne call again
13:29.54Marajinyeah exactly
13:29.56Marajinwhoops ;)
13:29.58captnoordthis is getting stupid
13:30.12captnoordnow i'm disconnected more than 30 x in a hour
13:30.13captnoord:S
13:30.26Marajinwhat kinda connection is it?
13:33.56captnoorddsl
13:33.56captnoordbut because all people here have that
13:33.56captnoordand the cheap isp's are using old and crappy AMT routers
13:33.56captnoordthey are kinda forced to drop connection when the load it to high
13:33.56captnoordmumbles that was a reconnect again
13:34.12Marajinyou sure it's not sync issues?
13:34.32captnoordyup
13:34.37captnoordas I have checked it
13:35.00captnoordmy connection from here to the main router is good, regarding signal strength
13:35.03captnoordits not perfect
13:35.04captnoordbut
13:35.06captnoordnot bad
13:35.20Marajingood enough huh?
13:35.29captnoordand everyday at 20:00 ( when all the house wives are gonne check there email )
13:35.34captnoordthe connection drops
13:35.35captnoordand
13:35.45captnoord21:00 when the man's are taking it over again
13:35.58captnoordbut
13:36.00captnoordi'm ok with that
13:36.10captnoordMarajin: my s/n ratio is good anough
13:36.19Marajinheh
13:36.37captnoordand that is messured from the main AMT router to my modem
13:36.51captnoordand for me that is good anough
13:36.59captnoordmeaning they are screwing up
13:37.13captnoordand its because they are advertising on the TV
13:37.16captnoordso they get more users
13:37.20captnoordbut they can't handle it
13:37.26captnoorda friend of mine
13:37.32Marajindoubt they care as long as they get paid
13:37.47captnoordworks for Intranellnet which is a ISP
13:38.10captnoordand they say they have to transfere like 100 people a month to there net
13:38.17captnoordfrom mine isp
13:38.22captnoordbecause they can't handle the load
13:38.47captnoordwhen the contract ends i'm gonna switch
13:38.53captnoordi've had it with this crap
13:39.03Marajinhow long have you got left in your contract/
13:39.15captnoordcouple of months
13:39.18captnoordI think 2
13:39.25captnoordalready have a letter ready
13:39.35captnoordto be send.......
13:39.41Marajinyou need a letter? I'd just phone up and play holy hell
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13:43.54Marajinwb
13:45.07captnoordMarajin: you happen to know some more about haret and the telnet connection... dump stuff and stuff
13:45.33MarajinNah I haven't used the feature so I only have vague memories of what others have said
13:46.03Pure4Reali know how to get the connection
13:46.08Pure4Realif that's your question
13:46.15Pure4Realdont know about dumps
13:46.28Pure4Realexcept the ones you do in the toilet
13:48.47captnoordok....
13:48.47captnoordcould you share some of these memory's with me..
13:48.47captnoordsetup a borg interlink connection
13:48.53captnoordhighfives Pure4Real
13:52.14Pure4Realhehe
13:52.33Pure4Realso you connect your device to the pc with the usb cable
13:52.39Pure4Realstart haret on the device
13:53.03Pure4Real...
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13:57.47Pure4Realwb
13:57.48Pure4Realso
13:58.05Pure4Realyou have to give the device an ip address
13:58.14Pure4Realand connect to it through telnet
13:58.34Pure4Realremember to push the button "Listen for network connections" or something like that in haret
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14:10.47captnoordhas reset his modem's s/n ratio stuff
14:11.01captnoordand increased its marge
14:14.30captnoordcrosses his fingers and hopes the connection stays up now.....
14:16.06captnoordk
14:16.13captnoordit seems my connection stays up now
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14:19.24captnoordMarajin: I think i'm back
14:19.42captnoordhighfives Pure4Real
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14:59.50captnoordjust for anybody to know... don't have synce create a link with your phone and your PC if your developing.....
14:59.51captnoorddamn
15:00.19captnoordbefore I got to the point I actualy understood why it didn't connected... I was like 15 minutes futher
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15:05.50captnoordhmm hmm
15:05.58captnoordok its "LS"
15:05.59captnoordand then
15:06.13captnoordLSMOD PID
15:06.17captnoordyou get the nice stuff
15:06.35captnoordthen I get stuff allocated related to the loaded modules
15:08.39captnoorddoes the stuff I get dumped now
15:08.48captnoordrelate to the wince offset in the research page?
15:08.49captnoord1076 fl=00000000 mid=8c057b18 pid=4dd4673e gusg=001 pusg=001 base=78CA0000 size=00016000 hmod=8C057B18 mod=mp3dmod.dll exe=
15:08.57captnoordpointing at base=
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15:16.08captnoord?
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15:46.28Marajinwb Captnoord
15:46.46Captnoordthanks
15:46.54Captnoordcrosses his fingers again
15:47.13Marajinheh :p
15:47.20CaptnoordO noo its amazing
15:47.29Captnoordmy modem connection is up for 1.5 hours
15:47.33Captnoordnever happend before today
15:48.11Captnoordwhat is the linux command for checking which app has binded what ip....
15:48.29stamppotlsof?
15:48.31Marajinnetstat?
15:48.33Marajinor that
15:48.38stamppotor use netstat indeed
15:48.58stamppotoh, you mean which ports belongs to which app?
15:49.04Captnoordnope
15:49.06Captnoordip's
15:49.15Captnoordas I have trouble connecting to my raph
15:49.20Captnoordand I want to understand how
15:50.11stamppotlsof is probably your friend. Can't check now, as I'm behind a windows box atm..
15:51.13Captnoorddank je
15:51.55Captnoordthanks
15:52.44stamppotlsof -i -n -P is probably what you want.
15:52.55Captnoordi've found the bitch
15:52.56Captnoord:P
15:53.04he_chunetstat -tap
15:53.13stamppotnow slap her! :-)
15:53.22Captnoordkills process
15:58.33Captnoordok.....
15:58.52Captnoordnow some info about his to decode this
15:58.52Captnoord1076 fl=00000000 mid=8fefc888 pid=cc2b7fa2 gusg=768 pusg=015 base=03F4C000 size=00096000 hmod=8FEFC888 mod=coredll.dll exe=
15:59.00Captnoordand I know my hex
15:59.05Captnoordso thats not the problem
15:59.40Captnoordand I know that some device drivers are loaded at certain offsets for a reason
16:00.05Captnoordlike
16:00.06Captnoord1076 fl=00000000 mid=8c87c700 pid=cc2b7fa2 gusg=001 pusg=001 base=78CB0000 size=00011000 hmod=8C87C700 mod=htcutil.dll exe=
16:00.57Captnoordbut is "base" a virtual memory offset
16:01.07Captnoordor a relative
16:01.08Captnoordor not
16:06.07Captnoordand yea
16:06.16Captnoordtriggert a softreset somehow
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16:09.39Captnoordok
16:09.44Captnoordlet me first do some backups
16:09.45Captnoord:P
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19:09.17einandHi,
19:09.49AstainHasPS3hi
19:10.10einandi'm trying to get android running on a Kaiser :)
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19:10.38AstainHasPS3its not too hard
19:11.05einandi do get boot linux, but it then there is somting that it cant find my memorycard
19:11.38AstainHasPS3sounds like you need to check the partitioning on your mem card
19:11.56einandhum.. i think so to
19:13.10einandit says cant find /sys/block/mmblok0/kOp2/sIze
19:13.29AstainHasPS3yah its partitioning
19:13.48AstainHasPS3I had same issue turned out my partition on the card was a logical one not a primary one
19:13.53einandi have an 8GB vfat partion
19:13.58AstainHasPS3repartitioned it and away it went
19:14.32einandhum.. ok, i will do a dd of my mem, then i can play howover i want
19:15.34einandis there any other working linux distor for kaiser than android?
19:17.40AstainHasPS3yah a few can't recall names
19:18.07einandcooolt
19:18.21einandany cood enuf to replace windows mobile?
19:18.38AstainHasPS3androids proally the best for now
19:18.39einandgood
19:18.49AstainHasPS3the webos when palm pre comes out could be interesting
19:19.26einanddo you think i will run on kaiser?
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19:42.52einandi did make vfat of my whole memorycard, now my phone cant find it at all
19:43.04einandmkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
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19:52.01einandnow i get an even more strange error. "No partion found on SD card"
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20:07.37AstainHasPS3fdisk the mem card instead einand
20:07.55einandAstainHasPS3: i have
20:08.06AstainHasPS3fdisk it and create new partition table and then create only a single partition
20:08.24einandAstainHasPS3: u now have sdb and sdb1
20:08.38einandsdb1 are fdisk table b "win 95 fat32"
20:08.47AstainHasPS3hmm odd
20:09.13einandodd?
20:09.53AstainHasPS3uhm n/m yes win 95 fat32 should be fine
20:09.55einandAstainHasPS3: when i do mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb -I the phone can find the memory card
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20:13.17einandcoolt, now its extrakting sometong
20:13.53einandwaiting for ppp, do i need to have it enabled?
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20:32.06einandAstainHasPS3: andrid works now. exept it sometimes krashes and restarts the phone in to windows again
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21:16.14Marajineinand: frankly it's just like that on the kaiser.
21:16.23Marajineinand: it crashes a lot for me too
21:16.52Marajinmay not be helped by the fact that the kaiser build uses cupcake which isn't entirely stable in the first place I think
21:17.22einandok
21:18.00einandthat odens say me anyting, new to linux/android on mobilephones
21:18.16Marajinhuh?
21:19.00einandi do not knoto make it simple, i do not know what cupcake is/are
21:19.30Marajineinand: cupcake is a modified version of android, it adds things like an on-screen keyboard which aren't in the normal android
21:20.01einandaha
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21:22.49ppmanwhere so I give the @commands to the radio?
21:22.53ppman*do*
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21:23.20einand_so
21:23.27einand_i'm back :)
21:23.55ppmando you know where to give @commands to the radio?
21:24.08einand_me?
21:24.24ppmanjust asked the question before you came on :P
21:24.29MarajinI think you can technically echo them directly to the dev node from the commandline if you want to
21:24.30einand_ok
21:24.40ppmanMarajin: which device node?
21:24.55einand_is there anoter working linux distro than android for kaiser?
21:24.58Marajinah well now you're asking, I don't remember. It's been a coupla months
21:25.13Marajineinand: erm, several but none of them are what you might call 'usable as a regular phone'
21:25.25einand_Marajin: as long as i can call, i'm fine ;)
21:25.30Marajinyou can dial and whatnot from the commandline which is very cool as a geek but pretty impractical
21:25.32ppmanit's one of the smd's, right?
21:25.35einand_and the phone doesent crash
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21:26.43einand_btw, is it just me, or dosent the cam work at android and kaiser?
21:26.56ppmankaiser android no camera yet.
21:27.04einand_ok
21:27.24Marajindon't think there's a camera driver at all udner linux for the kaiser yet, the vogue has one though I think
21:27.36ppmanI took a look at the vogue code for camera - way too confusing
21:27.45RZK333hm, so there is no onscreen keyboard on htc g1 in official android?
21:27.46einand_is there someone working on it?
21:27.49ppmanthey run on similar chips
21:28.01MarajinRZK333: I've never seen one but I haven't played much with the G1.
21:28.01einand_i mean, kaiser will not be an obsolete phone to run linux?
21:28.18ppmanFor AT:mknod /dev/smd0 c 254 0
21:28.18ppmanGPRS DATAmknod /dev/smd1 c 254 1
21:28.18ppmanGPS:mknod /dev/smd7 c 254 7
21:28.20Marajineinand_: Not really no. there are newer phones with worse specs than the kaiser
21:28.30einand_Marajin: :)
21:28.46Marajinbut the newest HTCs are much better than the kaiser heh
21:28.57ppmantp2 should be amazing :P
21:28.59Marajinbut linux runs better than windows mobile, so the kaiser can definitely run it just fine
21:29.13lupine_85anyone from linuxtogo around?
21:29.14einand_i do not have any issues with wm
21:29.14Marajinppman: tp2 is barely different from the original
21:29.25ppmanhas wvga screen...
21:29.34ppmanand tilts
21:29.37einand_there is one think i miss, i would like to remap keys
21:29.38RZK333wanna onscreen keyboard for htc nike
21:29.40lupine_85800x640 is indeed the bee's nees :)
21:29.48MarajinI never use the tilt on my kaiser anyway
21:29.48lupine_85knees*
21:29.56einand_what about linux on sonyericsson xp1?
21:29.57Marajinturns out to be pretty pointless in a phone :P
21:30.04lupine_85though I don't like the look of the touch pro 2's keyboard
21:30.08ppmanI like it...
21:30.13lupine_85einand_: last I heard, it was being worked on
21:30.26einand_hum..
21:30.35lupine_85ppman: Just on looks - I haven't played - I prefer the tp1 keypad
21:30.36Marajinyeah people don't like the TP2's keybard er.. there was another complaint too but I can't remember what now
21:30.39einand_i'm worried about kasier will be obsolete :(
21:30.43lupine_85looks less pressable
21:30.57ppmanwoah... android even has a vi-clone...
21:31.08ppmanguess you can expect that from busybox-alikes :P
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21:31.34ppmanis it werid that I can get root access with just su - in the terminal app?
21:31.58einand_ppman: there is no root password?
21:32.02ppmanno
21:32.12einand_ppman: sounds bad
21:32.23lupine_85ppman: if you set a root password, you won't be able to
21:32.29Marajinoh yeah, the dpad was switched for a 'zoom slider' wasn't it?
21:32.32ppmanG1's android has root unaccessible to everything..
21:32.33Marajinand it doesn't work properly
21:32.46lupine_85no root password is good for development stuff and fine for single-user apps like phones
21:32.56einand_where can i find any intresseting andrid apps?
21:33.06ppmaneinand_: the market
21:33.24einand_?
21:33.46ppmanthe android market?
21:33.51einand_ok
21:34.04ppmanhow do I type a tilde on a kaiser?
21:34.14einand_www.android.com/market/ ?
21:34.15ppmanin the terminal emulator?
21:34.34ppmaneinand_: the market app works on kaiser
21:34.53Marajinsure it does but the kaiser android crashes so often, what's the point? :P
21:35.10Marajingaaaaaah, I'm going to go mad if I don't work out why the toolchain keeps segfaulting on the same file
21:35.14RZK333anybody tryed to install debian on G1? i've seen mans and screenshots..
21:35.21einand_ppman: i do not have internet connection on the phone, not unless the wifi will start working ;)
21:35.31RZK333wanna see irssi fullscreen on it %)
21:36.33ppmanhow come terminal doesn't have internet access?
21:36.42ppmanlike ping doesn't work
21:38.25einand_do HaRET shut down windows mobile, or are they running side by side?
21:39.07ppmanoverwrites winmo in memory
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21:39.42einand_ppman: nice :)
21:40.44einand_can i give HaRET any parameter or someting, I do not wish to press the "run" button every time (i thinking about putting it in autorun)
21:41.14ppmanohnoes
21:41.21einand_why?
21:41.21ppmanhow do you pipe?
21:41.38ppmanhow do you type ">" with kaiser???
21:41.58RZK333einand_: rename default.txt to startup.txt
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21:42.29einand_is it posiable to remap the keys?
21:42.39ppmanwanna do some kernel hacking?
21:42.42ppmanwhy do you ask?
21:42.53RZK333build your kernel and rewrite )
21:43.06einand_i would like to change the "volum" to the scroll at the left side
21:43.32ppmanI'll need to get into userspace hacking at some point..
21:43.41ppmanfinally get the keyboard a lot better
21:44.06einand_is ut just my phone, or do android have a very flaky mobileconection?
21:44.23einand_my phone are still, and it still change from 5 bars to 0 bars
21:44.40ppmanwhich radio?
21:45.22einand_ppman: 1.65.16.25
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21:45.40ppmanhmmm... newest build?
21:45.49ppmanit's probably trying to connect to data..
21:46.14ppmanfailing because I imagine you haven't setup apn?
21:46.19einand_ppman: i'm not sure, I do not know how to change ;)
21:46.31einand_ppman: thats true, no APN
21:47.25einand_i havent enable data yet (in sweden it costs about $2-3 per Megabyte)
21:48.19AstainHasPS3ouch thats nasty
21:48.34lupine_85gets 500MB for £7.50/mo
21:48.43lupine_85hehe
21:49.03ppmangets 5gb for $30 a month
21:49.05lupine_85oh yeah. autopuller definitely works
21:49.09RZK333has 1mb per .19 in Russia
21:49.11einand_but we do have "unlimited" accounts, for around $10 per month, but i will take a few days to activate
21:49.22RZK333*$0.19
21:49.27ppmanunlimited usually means 5gb
21:49.34einand_ppman: thats true
21:49.47ppmanthen again, I've never gone over 100mb
21:49.52einand_ppman: but change it o a bussnies account, and you will have true unlimited
21:50.13ppmanAT&T gets pissed off if you "overuse their network"
21:50.25lupine_85heh, I can imagine
21:50.33lupine_85Voda aren't that good about it
21:50.41einand_WTF did i do now, now there is no blurr in on the screen
21:50.59einand_cristal clear
21:51.03ppmanprolly set wrong resolution in default.txt
21:51.19einand_ppman: havent toutched it
21:52.47einand_does google android works with google apps accounts?
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21:56.19einand_has stolen his girlfreinds simcard for mobile internet ;)
21:58.06cr2hmm. rpc
21:58.46ppmanoh cool.. there's a better terminal emulator in the market
21:59.05ppmanwhich failed to install
21:59.33cr2ppman: terminal emulator ?
22:00.43einand_anyone, can i get android to work with google apps accounts?
22:02.49einand_how is battery time with android? bad/good/worse
22:03.06ppmanbad...
22:03.18ppmanI think we turned off most of the random stuff, though..
22:03.37ppmana few builds ago, we turned on wifi, bluetooth, and gps without being able to use them :P
22:03.46einand_:)
22:04.00cr2ppman: gps where ?
22:04.07ppmanwhoops
22:04.11ppmanthought we did
22:04.21cr2which device ?
22:04.22einand_cool, internet works :)
22:04.25ppmankaiser
22:04.35ppmancr2: run "strings" on a radio .nb file
22:04.36cr2dcordes_ said it works
22:04.49einand_ppman: do you think wifi will work soon?
22:04.51ppmanscordes_ is a liar :D
22:05.08cr2ppman: gps is just an smd channel, how do you turn it off ?
22:05.15einand_strange, Why does my phone think i roamin, but i'm still in the same network
22:05.24ppmanmust have made a mistake..
22:05.30ppmanactually,
22:05.31ppmanmaybe..
22:05.45einand_:(
22:05.46ppmanyou can give power to the receiver hardware itself
22:05.47cr2ppman: gps does not work for me on raph
22:05.53einand_error when i try to search for networks
22:05.59cr2hehe. how ?
22:06.35ppmanthink there's a gpio or whatnot, right?
22:06.45cr2ppman: can you try at@startgps?
22:06.53cr2ppman: no. i wish it was so easy ;)
22:07.29cr2"at@startgps?"
22:07.39ppmanI can't pipe..
22:07.44cr2it should tell you if gps is started
22:07.47cr2use 'cu'
22:07.51ppmanno ">" key
22:07.56ppmanno cu command on android
22:07.59lupine_85ppman: get a charmap installed? :)
22:08.04cr2use angstrom
22:08.12ppmanyeah..
22:08.44einand_why is the screen blury?
22:08.54einand_when i have the "correct" resolution?
22:09.02ppmanwe're faking HVGA on a QVGA screen
22:09.09einand_ok
22:09.44einand_thats explayns why the settings have 2x the hight
22:10.12einand_lol
22:10.30einand_Google Maps @ Androids take me to the wrong contry
22:10.38ppmancalifornia, right?
22:10.44einand_no, netherlands
22:10.44ppmanthat's the my location demo
22:10.57ppmanclose enough :P
22:11.05einand_:)
22:11.22einand_sweden, netherlands. At least in europe ;)
22:12.48einand_ghaaa
22:13.09einand_it have english layout, what button do you make @ with
22:13.17einand_row and colms pleas
22:13.19einand_e
22:13.35ppmandid you set atttilt to 1 or 0?
22:13.52einand_whats that?
22:13.57ppmanbasically, is ! and @ switched?
22:14.22ppmanAT&T messed up the keyboard layout on kaiser, called it a tilt
22:14.39einand_ppman: in my upper right corner do i have @ when i press it i will get )
22:14.39cr2lol. "clk_regime_sel_uart_clk_src is depreciated"
22:14.40ppmanthen again, they've messed up every HTC's keyboard layout...
22:14.56ppmanwoah... wrong language keyboard :P
22:15.04einand_ppman: i have a swedish one
22:15.22ppmandepending on what value you set in default.txt, it's either top left or top left over one column
22:15.55ppmanI'll setup a swedish layout in the kernel, if you'd like,
22:16.01ppmanbut take a picture of your keyboard
22:16.21einand_ppman: i will se if I can find one (do not own any camere for the moment)
22:17.53ppmandoes anyone know if other kaiser variants exist?
22:18.46ppmankayboard-wise?
22:19.01einand_ppman: norwegan and dannish?
22:19.07ppmanthat it?
22:19.13einand_i don't know
22:19.29einand_but i know that we have 3 more letters in the alpabeh (sweden have åäö)
22:19.48einand_thats why tahy changed the layout
22:20.07ppmangeez... why can't everyone just use our language? :D
22:20.26einand_i agree, then i would have been beeter on it ;)
22:21.06einand_france, looks diffent also
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22:22.03ppmanfsck... how many layouts do I need to make???
22:22.13einand_for me, one ;)
22:22.36ppmanfind me a picture and I'll make it
22:22.36einand_ppman: is it to hard do me some kind of "map" file
22:22.41ppmanyes..
22:22.49ppmanthis stuff is all in kernel
22:22.57ppmanarch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c
22:23.57einand_ok, i will take my girlfriends mobile, and take a picture, cand find any on the web
22:24.20ppmanI think I'll modify the atttilt code... make a general option for layout
22:25.29einand_ok?
22:25.49cr2aha.
22:25.54cr2AT@setgps=99,7,50,4
22:25.55cr2AT@setgps=99,7,50,5
22:26.12ppmanI just got angstrom on here..
22:26.20ppmanare those to smd0 or 7?
22:26.35cr2smd0
22:26.54einand_ppman: i have a picture now, i'm just uploadning it
22:26.55cr2try to query it first
22:27.05cr2'at@setgps?'
22:27.29cr2these two commands above may be enabling the agps
22:27.34ppmanerm...
22:27.41ppmanpermission denied, line in use
22:28.06einand_WTF, have my provider done. its says roaming in windows mobile aswell now
22:28.51cr2ppman: chown root.uucp /dev/smd0
22:29.04cr2su - uucp
22:29.10cr2cu -l /dev/smd0
22:29.52ppmanconnected
22:29.54ppmanthanks
22:30.17einand_does this mean that gps will work soon?
22:30.26ppmanI like how I can't see what I type :P
22:30.47ppmanresponds @SETGPS: 99,7,50,0
22:30.57cr2ok, that's nice.
22:31.06cr2because i get @gps: 0
22:31.11cr2on raph.
22:31.29cr2so 99,7,50,0 is a legitimate combination too.
22:31.39cr2do you use agps on wince ?
22:31.51cr2you have booted with gps enabled ?
22:32.05ppmangps not enabled at time of boot..
22:32.17cr2ok, then maybe 0 is off.
22:32.29einand_ppman: http://upload.snelhest.org/v.php?id=090226DSC00018.JPG [+]
22:32.31cr2can you try to boot with gps enabled ?
22:32.46ppmanone sec..
22:32.51ppmanwant to try something first
22:32.57einand_np
22:33.11cr2ok
22:33.12einand_why, does it dissconnect when i try do syncronise data
22:33.25cr2hmm
22:33.27cr2GPS: [PAModuleInitClient] ERROR: pdsm_client_pa_reg for PA event failed
22:33.32ppmancr2: do you know what HTCPDPFD does?
22:33.34cr2PA is preamplifier ??
22:33.44cr2no
22:33.52cr2PDP is something gsm related
22:33.58ppmanno...
22:34.05ppmanI'm looking at the radio
22:34.12ppmanseems to be battery related
22:34.19cr2on kaiser ?
22:34.24ppmanwell,
22:34.31cr2kaiser uses i2c directly.
22:34.41ppmanI know that - I wrote the first driver :P
22:34.47ppmanit's actually a dream radio
22:34.54ppmanthat I flashed to my kaiesr
22:35.06ppmanyeah, seems to not support that
22:35.15cr2on raph the battery is served by pmic chip. accessed over SBI by amss for you.
22:35.37cr2how does g1 control the battery ?
22:35.44einand_how can i see what network i'm connected to, 2g or 3g
22:36.02ppmancr2: looks like radio calls..
22:36.06cr2einand_: at* something
22:36.10lupine_85hold it next to a speaker and listen to the blips sounds it makes? ;)
22:36.17ppmanhaven't looked at the code, but there's stuff in this radio..
22:36.27einand_cr2: i do not wish to make some commandline hacking ;)
22:36.34ppmaneinand_: speed test :P
22:36.48ppmanokay, gps is on... do I need a fix?
22:37.04ppmanI'll try without
22:37.09cr2ppman: there is a lot of code in amss that we are not really interested in.
22:37.17cr2try without
22:37.24einand_anyway browser seems to work, but i cant creat a syncronice my google account :(
22:37.34cr2we need to get at least some nmea datastream first.
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22:39.01cr2GPS: [SetupGPSConfigForGetPosition] GPS Mode - For legacy applications, use default configuration.
22:39.11einand_:(
22:39.15cr2yeah, we are legacy, thankyouverymuch
22:39.24einand_do google have problems, or is it my phone that can't connect
22:39.59cr2uh. AT@CELLID?
22:40.24cr2isn't at+creg=2 reporting it ?
22:40.37einand_at+cops?
22:40.40ppmanis HTCCSQ signal quality?
22:40.48ppmankeeps popping up values on mine
22:40.57ppmananyway, what command am I trying?
22:41.50cr2yes
22:42.15einand_Why do all the bars in reciptions down to 0 when i try to sync to google ?
22:42.16cr2try 'at@cellid?' and 'at@startgps?'
22:42.27ppmanat@setgps? responds @SETGPS 99,7,50,0
22:42.38cr2einand_: lol. it's a conspiracy.
22:42.41ppmansame as before
22:42.56cr2ppman: get a fix first ?
22:43.04einand_but the browser and goggle maps work :(
22:43.09cr2ppman: do you have the serial port open at boot ?
22:43.09ppmanthat requires going outside :P
22:43.13cr2ok
22:43.20ppmanI'll try from my window
22:43.28ppmanwhat do you mean by serial port open at boot?
22:43.30cr2virtual serial. at least that's how i set it up.
22:43.41cr2gps virtual serial port
22:44.11ppmanin windows?
22:44.47cr2yes
22:44.50cr2GPS: [NMEAThread - ReadData] No listeners currently.  Stop reading NMEA from SMD
22:45.33cr2this one needs to be cleared too: TCXO_LOCK_ID_GPS
22:45.37cr2which tcx0
22:46.14ppmanI'm using visualgpsce....
22:46.22ppmanon the GPS on com4
22:46.40cr2ok
22:46.46ppmanhold on, brb
22:51.11einand_do i need to change APN in android interface?
22:51.22einand_or is the startup.txt all i need?
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22:55.42ppmancan't get a fix...
22:55.42ppmanI've never been able to get one in our yard :P
22:56.40Bushmanre
22:56.41cr2yeah, the msm gps is not great
22:57.35Bushmananyone can post me a link to some recent (preferably working) version of some linux for BA?
22:57.36cr2i was running it side by side with sirf3-based grmn 76cx
22:57.52cr2Bushman: linuxtogo ?
22:58.02einand_why do the browser connect to internet, but nothing else?
22:58.37cr2ppman: do you get the cellid response ? does it match the at+creg=2 responses ?
23:00.19ppmangotta boot back up again
23:00.27ppmanwill it be only one number,
23:00.30Bushmancr2: some working one
23:00.32ppmannot even on its own line?
23:00.32einand_strange, and anouing, browser, and google maps do have internet connections, but noting else :(
23:00.43Bushmani don't know, there was this angstrom or something
23:00.48Bushmanis it fixed yet?
23:00.59Bushmanthere were problems with phone all and wifi
23:04.08Bushmanbtw, i donno why but my old SD with linux on it has misplcaced somewhere and i need to create new one
23:04.26Bushmanwhat was he default FS for linux part?
23:04.47cr2ppman: @CELLID: Lat=%lf, Lon=%lf"
23:05.10ppmanwait, what?
23:05.24cr2Bushman: i think BabelO was the last one working on BA
23:05.54cr2ppman: what does at@cellid? say ?
23:06.34ppman4
23:06.44BushmanBabelO: you there?
23:06.55cr2ppman: ok
23:07.02cr2ppman: i'll boot my raph
23:07.13ppmansome +CREG stuff then pops up, but I'm not sure if I caused that...
23:07.24cr2+creg is async
23:07.35cr2do 'at+creg=2'
23:07.52ppmanjust sez 0
23:08.06ppmanthen another +CREG line popped up...
23:08.22ppmanI g2g...
23:08.28ppmanbusy tonight :/
23:13.13einand_uptime shows wrong, or do i  have 343248:12:20 long uptime ;)
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23:20.08BabelOBushman: i m here now, but too much  beer i think
23:21.39ali1234BabelO: do you have a raw zImage for artemis?
23:22.15einand_are android the most complette linuxdistro for kaiser?
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23:24.25cr2BabelO: big brother is watching you :)
23:24.32cr2at@cellid?
23:24.34cr2@CELLID: Lat=0.000000, Lon=0.000000, Height=0.000000
23:24.35cr2OK
23:24.55BabelOali1234: no    raw image, just my qtopia image
23:25.06BabelOcr2: lol, we are on M
23:25.12cr2so the gps config is different on kaiser
23:25.14BabelOcr2: i try build for wince
23:25.29cr2BabelO: i will need the qtext image too
23:25.38BabelObut have some fail between win mobile 5 and 6
23:25.50BabelOcr qtext image ?
23:25.58cr2yes, roadmap does not wantto work on wince6.1 too
23:26.02BabelOyou have my artemis image which are pretty generic
23:26.04cr2qtextended
23:26.10cr2ok
23:26.46BabelOcr2: i just build 4.3.2 wince at this time need to ask lpotter or ljp  about qt wince
23:26.59cr2hehe. maybe you may try to compile the raph linload.exe
23:27.01cr2ok
23:27.01BabelOseem that newer version don't want to compile
23:27.21BabelOcr i can i you tell me your kernel svn
23:27.36cr2in the worst case scenario i'll enable gps on athena, and will test on athena
23:29.36cr2BabelO: it's at linuxtogo, which is not responding to me now
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23:30.26BabelOcr2: branch ?
23:30.34BabelOhtc-msm ?
23:32.24cr2htc-msm-2.6.27
23:32.35cr2htcraphael_defconfig
23:32.49cr2i don't rememebr the mem=
23:32.59cr2need to check the NetRipper's site
23:33.07cr2NetRipper: are you alive ?
23:33.40cr2at@startgps=99,7,50,4
23:33.41cr2ERROR
23:33.48cr2seems to be some kaiser legacy
23:34.22cr2at@startgps?
23:34.22cr2@GPS: 0
23:34.22cr2OK
23:34.45lupine_85cr2: http://forest.lupine.me.uk/gitweb/ mirrors linuxtogo
23:35.00lupine_85(some of the branches, anyway)
23:35.16lupine_85git:// access is slightly broken right now
23:37.03cr2at@startgps
23:37.05cr2[WCDMA] startGPS OK
23:37.07cr2OK
23:37.08cr2at@startgps?
23:37.09cr2@GPS: 1
23:37.11cr2OK
23:37.12cr2amd dead ;)
23:37.36cr2ok, it's an oops.
23:38.13cr2BUG: scheduling while atomic
23:38.31cr2ARM9 has crashed
23:38.45cr2smem: DIAG ''
23:39.12cr2command=0x22
23:39.42cr2and then oops in handle_modem_crash
23:40.08ali1234how do you even make those haret+kernel+default.txt blobs? and more importantly how do i unmake one?
23:40.23cr2maejrep: it seems that you are doing something wrong here :)
23:40.46cr2ali1234: unmake is not so easy.
23:40.56cr2ali1234: make linload target for haret
23:42.17ali1234cheers
23:43.35cr268?  0x22  restart arm9  0
23:44.19cr2hehe. when it is really crashed, sending a dex cmd is not very useful.
23:46.15ali1234in haret source there are two scripts, make-bootbundle.py and extract-bootbundle.py
23:46.34cr2never used extract
23:47.53ali1234it seems to have worked :)
23:50.58cr2haha. gps does not work in wince anymore

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