00:05.15 | captnoord | ok |
00:05.20 | captnoord | its official |
00:05.24 | captnoord | I have no clue where to start |
00:05.47 | captnoord | will continue tomorrow |
00:05.55 | captnoord | i will ask around for pointers |
00:05.55 | captnoord | so |
00:05.58 | captnoord | have fun all |
00:06.00 | captnoord | and sleep well |
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00:24.11 | maejrep | cr2: I'm here :p |
00:24.17 | maejrep | just hectic at work :/ |
00:25.13 | maejrep | tonight i'm gonna make sure everything I started mucking around with still works, then I'll try to get patches ready for git |
00:29.55 | maejrep | hmm |
00:29.58 | maejrep | [ 11.552415] msmfb_probe() installing 480 x 640 panel |
00:29.58 | maejrep | [ 16.640306] msmfb_pan_display timeout rerequest vsync |
00:29.58 | maejrep | [ 16.653947] msmfb_start_dma 5006.072 ms after vsync request |
00:29.59 | maejrep | [ 21.640275] msmfb_pan_display timeout waiting for frame start, 2 1 |
00:30.12 | maejrep | between the msmfb_probe and msmfb_pan_display lines, the lcd stops drawing |
00:34.15 | lupine_85 | yays at his accounts |
00:37.00 | cr2 | maejrep: i have added all amss sections to wiki |
00:37.18 | maejrep | what page? |
00:38.04 | maejrep | cr2: have any ideas for my msmfb problem? :x |
00:42.06 | maejrep | http://i.gizmodo.com/5159399/sheevaplug-a-99-linux-pc-crammed-inside-a-wall-plug |
00:44.51 | lupine_85 | hee, cute |
00:45.00 | lupine_85 | now if only they did 'em on UK plugs |
00:48.07 | ali1234 | why would you want 99 linux pcs inside one plug? |
00:48.55 | lupine_85 | oh, very good :p |
00:49.00 | captnoord | maejrepcr2: have any ideas for my msmfb problem? :x |
00:49.15 | captnoord | the vsync request takes 5 seconds? |
00:50.22 | captnoord | so the pan display timeout is 5 seconds |
00:50.27 | captnoord | can't make that shorter |
00:50.31 | captnoord | hmmm |
00:50.35 | captnoord | goes to sleep |
00:50.39 | captnoord | to much thinking |
00:50.42 | captnoord | have fun |
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02:26.31 | tekkdrone | Kevin2: you lurking about? |
02:31.10 | tekkdrone | well, those of you that have projects on linuxtogo, how does one go about configuring their account for usage with gitweb? |
02:32.58 | tekkdrone | I've tried creating my project repo and adding the typical export markers for either gitweb or gitdaemon, to no avail |
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03:19.54 | Kevin2 | tekkdrone: Hi |
03:21.28 | Kevin2 | Just create a directory somewhere under /home/ and create a file git-daemon-export-ok in the directory. |
03:21.58 | Kevin2 | If you're trying to get the gitweb interface to work, you need to give it a day - the cron that scans for new entries only runs once a day. |
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03:43.13 | calamari | hi |
03:45.18 | tekkdrone | Kevin2: ahhhhh, I was on point, just didn't consider it might be cron'd, thanks |
03:45.47 | tekkdrone | 'lo calamari |
03:46.21 | calamari | hi tekkdrone.. sorry I probably came across as a clueless idiot on your blog haha |
03:46.45 | tekkdrone | not at all |
03:47.29 | calamari | but if you have anything that you need help with, please let me know.. there's another guy on a linux mailing list here in town who would also like to help |
03:48.36 | tekkdrone | right on, and to answer your question I should have the source available on a git repository in the next 24 hours, have to recreate the repo and wait for cron to add me (remote host) |
03:49.14 | calamari | does the audio stuff work? |
03:49.19 | calamari | mic and such |
03:49.37 | tekkdrone | inbound only atm, haven't really approached audio yet |
03:49.53 | calamari | cool, maybe we can help there then |
03:50.28 | tekkdrone | possibly, the next thing on the list is getting egpio working, it's pretty much the precursor to the rest of the hardware remaining |
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03:59.10 | swc|666 | tekkdrone, which device? |
03:59.22 | tekkdrone | the apache, 6700 |
04:00.28 | swc|666 | i thought about getting an apache to play with... only two things that turns me off personally is 64mb + cdma, but still a cool device nonetheless |
04:02.11 | calamari | unfortunately, cdma is cheaper .. I can get unlimited everything for $45/mo .. with gsm, that's at least $75 |
04:02.27 | tekkdrone | aye, the memory limitation sucks |
04:03.44 | tekkdrone | and I'm in the us so the only large-scale gsm providers are t-mobile and at&t |
04:04.42 | calamari | exactly |
04:04.56 | calamari | and I guess at&t is still routing calls thru the NSA? |
04:05.20 | tekkdrone | frankly I think they all are, but I digress |
04:05.23 | tekkdrone | lol |
04:05.59 | calamari | I was really close to getting a G1.. but where's the challenge? |
04:06.25 | calamari | and I'm a cheap bastard |
04:06.30 | tekkdrone | my co-worker likes it, but bitches about battery life all the time |
04:06.50 | tekkdrone | though I could say the same for the 'ol apache |
04:07.15 | calamari | I was reading about a 2400mah battery upgrade.. thought I'd see what the life was like first |
04:07.41 | tekkdrone | pretty decent for the first year on a new battery, but like most cellphones, shite after that |
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05:29.20 | dan-vogue-titan | hmm, quiet room.... |
05:30.40 | AstainHasPS3 | looks like you missed maejrep dan-vogue-titan |
05:30.58 | dan-vogue-titan | he the loud one? |
05:31.17 | AstainHasPS3 | he's the one that is working on raph800 primarily |
05:31.27 | dan-vogue-titan | nice |
05:31.58 | dan-vogue-titan | who's the titan guru? |
05:32.28 | AstainHasPS3 | titan is some chinese guy |
05:32.47 | AstainHasPS3 | http://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/ |
05:34.13 | dan-vogue-titan | sweet, seems to be advancing quite well |
05:34.39 | AstainHasPS3 | yah it works better than wimo imho |
05:34.41 | AstainHasPS3 | on titan anyway |
05:35.37 | dan-vogue-titan | yeah, I might as well start messing with it, titan just sits in a drawer these days |
05:36.00 | AstainHasPS3 | I used to have a titan |
05:36.12 | AstainHasPS3 | but I got it insurance upgraded to a TP |
05:36.38 | dan-vogue-titan | does it work on hc cards with titan? |
05:36.48 | AstainHasPS3 | think so |
05:37.25 | dan-vogue-titan | hope so, 2 gig is mia... hmmm |
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06:04.29 | tmzt | tekkdrone: hey, is you titan image the same as dzo's vogue now? |
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06:24.06 | tekkdrone | tmzt: i was working on the apache, and negative on that though I did use his ril patch in an earlier test build, i've yet to apply it to the .27 associated android ril |
06:25.32 | tmzt | yeah, which is why I suggested someone ask you about apache yesterday |
06:25.37 | tmzt | so I'm not thinking again |
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06:25.59 | tekkdrone | no sweat :) |
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07:42.09 | Untouchab1e | Good morning :) |
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08:00.53 | TheiPirate | it is late i shouldnt ask questions or state things but |
08:01.28 | TheiPirate | i think the power man apps sees full battery at 94, not sure if that # is useful |
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11:19.42 | captnoord | waves around |
11:21.01 | Untouchab1e | nods back |
11:22.20 | captnoord | requests to steal research info... to start on his raph |
11:22.45 | captnoord | I know I can connect to my mobile trough telnet while its running haret |
11:22.54 | captnoord | but... what does haret exactly dump |
11:25.46 | captnoord | it dumps mem offsets |
11:25.55 | captnoord | and stuff |
11:32.47 | captnoord | kills ISP |
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12:23.05 | captnoord | kills ISP |
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13:20.02 | Marajin | yo |
13:20.33 | henkstubben | yo |
13:20.39 | Marajin | how goes? |
13:20.42 | Marajin | ah hey Captnoord |
13:20.47 | Captnoord | home |
13:20.48 | Captnoord | isp sucks |
13:20.52 | Marajin | heh |
13:20.54 | Captnoord | and writing a song |
13:20.55 | Marajin | it happens |
13:21.04 | Captnoord | but i'm crashed after the first line |
13:21.05 | Captnoord | :P |
13:21.31 | Captnoord | because my isp sucks I managed to read more about git |
13:21.40 | Captnoord | and got a reference checkout now |
13:21.40 | Captnoord | :D |
13:21.42 | Captnoord | lol |
13:22.16 | Marajin | heh |
13:22.26 | Marajin | well I can't compile anything from git, the toolchain just segfaults |
13:22.33 | Captnoord | ? |
13:22.40 | Marajin | it's odd cause it does compile a few files first, then it segfaults |
13:22.53 | Marajin | always the same file it segfaults on too |
13:22.58 | Captnoord | even that I don't know exactly how and such |
13:23.04 | Captnoord | you have the latest gcc and stuff? |
13:23.18 | Marajin | sure, gentoo system, tends to be constantly up to date |
13:24.03 | Captnoord | because I just did a fresh checkout |
13:24.03 | Captnoord | and compiled it |
13:24.03 | Captnoord | nothing special |
13:25.48 | Marajin | yeah, it's odd |
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13:28.50 | Marajin | I guess I'll do a fresh gitclone but I figure it's the toolchain |
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13:29.38 | Marajin | whoops? ;) |
13:29.47 | captnoord | nope |
13:29.50 | captnoord | isp |
13:29.54 | captnoord | gonne call again |
13:29.54 | Marajin | yeah exactly |
13:29.56 | Marajin | whoops ;) |
13:29.58 | captnoord | this is getting stupid |
13:30.12 | captnoord | now i'm disconnected more than 30 x in a hour |
13:30.13 | captnoord | :S |
13:30.26 | Marajin | what kinda connection is it? |
13:33.56 | captnoord | dsl |
13:33.56 | captnoord | but because all people here have that |
13:33.56 | captnoord | and the cheap isp's are using old and crappy AMT routers |
13:33.56 | captnoord | they are kinda forced to drop connection when the load it to high |
13:33.56 | captnoord | mumbles that was a reconnect again |
13:34.12 | Marajin | you sure it's not sync issues? |
13:34.32 | captnoord | yup |
13:34.37 | captnoord | as I have checked it |
13:35.00 | captnoord | my connection from here to the main router is good, regarding signal strength |
13:35.03 | captnoord | its not perfect |
13:35.04 | captnoord | but |
13:35.06 | captnoord | not bad |
13:35.20 | Marajin | good enough huh? |
13:35.29 | captnoord | and everyday at 20:00 ( when all the house wives are gonne check there email ) |
13:35.34 | captnoord | the connection drops |
13:35.35 | captnoord | and |
13:35.45 | captnoord | 21:00 when the man's are taking it over again |
13:35.58 | captnoord | but |
13:36.00 | captnoord | i'm ok with that |
13:36.10 | captnoord | Marajin: my s/n ratio is good anough |
13:36.19 | Marajin | heh |
13:36.37 | captnoord | and that is messured from the main AMT router to my modem |
13:36.51 | captnoord | and for me that is good anough |
13:36.59 | captnoord | meaning they are screwing up |
13:37.13 | captnoord | and its because they are advertising on the TV |
13:37.16 | captnoord | so they get more users |
13:37.20 | captnoord | but they can't handle it |
13:37.26 | captnoord | a friend of mine |
13:37.32 | Marajin | doubt they care as long as they get paid |
13:37.47 | captnoord | works for Intranellnet which is a ISP |
13:38.10 | captnoord | and they say they have to transfere like 100 people a month to there net |
13:38.17 | captnoord | from mine isp |
13:38.22 | captnoord | because they can't handle the load |
13:38.47 | captnoord | when the contract ends i'm gonna switch |
13:38.53 | captnoord | i've had it with this crap |
13:39.03 | Marajin | how long have you got left in your contract/ |
13:39.15 | captnoord | couple of months |
13:39.18 | captnoord | I think 2 |
13:39.25 | captnoord | already have a letter ready |
13:39.35 | captnoord | to be send....... |
13:39.41 | Marajin | you need a letter? I'd just phone up and play holy hell |
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13:43.54 | Marajin | wb |
13:45.07 | captnoord | Marajin: you happen to know some more about haret and the telnet connection... dump stuff and stuff |
13:45.33 | Marajin | Nah I haven't used the feature so I only have vague memories of what others have said |
13:46.03 | Pure4Real | i know how to get the connection |
13:46.08 | Pure4Real | if that's your question |
13:46.15 | Pure4Real | dont know about dumps |
13:46.28 | Pure4Real | except the ones you do in the toilet |
13:48.47 | captnoord | ok.... |
13:48.47 | captnoord | could you share some of these memory's with me.. |
13:48.47 | captnoord | setup a borg interlink connection |
13:48.53 | captnoord | highfives Pure4Real |
13:52.14 | Pure4Real | hehe |
13:52.33 | Pure4Real | so you connect your device to the pc with the usb cable |
13:52.39 | Pure4Real | start haret on the device |
13:53.03 | Pure4Real | ... |
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13:57.47 | Pure4Real | wb |
13:57.48 | Pure4Real | so |
13:58.05 | Pure4Real | you have to give the device an ip address |
13:58.14 | Pure4Real | and connect to it through telnet |
13:58.34 | Pure4Real | remember to push the button "Listen for network connections" or something like that in haret |
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14:10.47 | captnoord | has reset his modem's s/n ratio stuff |
14:11.01 | captnoord | and increased its marge |
14:14.30 | captnoord | crosses his fingers and hopes the connection stays up now..... |
14:16.06 | captnoord | k |
14:16.13 | captnoord | it seems my connection stays up now |
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14:19.24 | captnoord | Marajin: I think i'm back |
14:19.42 | captnoord | highfives Pure4Real |
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14:32.41 | TheiPirate | awesome |
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14:59.50 | captnoord | just for anybody to know... don't have synce create a link with your phone and your PC if your developing..... |
14:59.51 | captnoord | damn |
15:00.19 | captnoord | before I got to the point I actualy understood why it didn't connected... I was like 15 minutes futher |
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15:05.50 | captnoord | hmm hmm |
15:05.58 | captnoord | ok its "LS" |
15:05.59 | captnoord | and then |
15:06.13 | captnoord | LSMOD PID |
15:06.17 | captnoord | you get the nice stuff |
15:06.35 | captnoord | then I get stuff allocated related to the loaded modules |
15:08.39 | captnoord | does the stuff I get dumped now |
15:08.48 | captnoord | relate to the wince offset in the research page? |
15:08.49 | captnoord | 1076 fl=00000000 mid=8c057b18 pid=4dd4673e gusg=001 pusg=001 base=78CA0000 size=00016000 hmod=8C057B18 mod=mp3dmod.dll exe= |
15:08.57 | captnoord | pointing at base= |
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15:16.08 | captnoord | ? |
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15:46.28 | Marajin | wb Captnoord |
15:46.46 | Captnoord | thanks |
15:46.54 | Captnoord | crosses his fingers again |
15:47.13 | Marajin | heh :p |
15:47.20 | Captnoord | O noo its amazing |
15:47.29 | Captnoord | my modem connection is up for 1.5 hours |
15:47.33 | Captnoord | never happend before today |
15:48.11 | Captnoord | what is the linux command for checking which app has binded what ip.... |
15:48.29 | stamppot | lsof? |
15:48.31 | Marajin | netstat? |
15:48.33 | Marajin | or that |
15:48.38 | stamppot | or use netstat indeed |
15:48.58 | stamppot | oh, you mean which ports belongs to which app? |
15:49.04 | Captnoord | nope |
15:49.06 | Captnoord | ip's |
15:49.15 | Captnoord | as I have trouble connecting to my raph |
15:49.20 | Captnoord | and I want to understand how |
15:50.11 | stamppot | lsof is probably your friend. Can't check now, as I'm behind a windows box atm.. |
15:51.13 | Captnoord | dank je |
15:51.55 | Captnoord | thanks |
15:52.44 | stamppot | lsof -i -n -P is probably what you want. |
15:52.55 | Captnoord | i've found the bitch |
15:52.56 | Captnoord | :P |
15:53.04 | he_chu | netstat -tap |
15:53.13 | stamppot | now slap her! :-) |
15:53.22 | Captnoord | kills process |
15:58.33 | Captnoord | ok..... |
15:58.52 | Captnoord | now some info about his to decode this |
15:58.52 | Captnoord | 1076 fl=00000000 mid=8fefc888 pid=cc2b7fa2 gusg=768 pusg=015 base=03F4C000 size=00096000 hmod=8FEFC888 mod=coredll.dll exe= |
15:59.00 | Captnoord | and I know my hex |
15:59.05 | Captnoord | so thats not the problem |
15:59.40 | Captnoord | and I know that some device drivers are loaded at certain offsets for a reason |
16:00.05 | Captnoord | like |
16:00.06 | Captnoord | 1076 fl=00000000 mid=8c87c700 pid=cc2b7fa2 gusg=001 pusg=001 base=78CB0000 size=00011000 hmod=8C87C700 mod=htcutil.dll exe= |
16:00.57 | Captnoord | but is "base" a virtual memory offset |
16:01.07 | Captnoord | or a relative |
16:01.08 | Captnoord | or not |
16:06.07 | Captnoord | and yea |
16:06.16 | Captnoord | triggert a softreset somehow |
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16:09.39 | Captnoord | ok |
16:09.44 | Captnoord | let me first do some backups |
16:09.45 | Captnoord | :P |
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19:09.17 | einand | Hi, |
19:09.49 | AstainHasPS3 | hi |
19:10.10 | einand | i'm trying to get android running on a Kaiser :) |
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19:10.38 | AstainHasPS3 | its not too hard |
19:11.05 | einand | i do get boot linux, but it then there is somting that it cant find my memorycard |
19:11.38 | AstainHasPS3 | sounds like you need to check the partitioning on your mem card |
19:11.56 | einand | hum.. i think so to |
19:13.10 | einand | it says cant find /sys/block/mmblok0/kOp2/sIze |
19:13.29 | AstainHasPS3 | yah its partitioning |
19:13.48 | AstainHasPS3 | I had same issue turned out my partition on the card was a logical one not a primary one |
19:13.53 | einand | i have an 8GB vfat partion |
19:13.58 | AstainHasPS3 | repartitioned it and away it went |
19:14.32 | einand | hum.. ok, i will do a dd of my mem, then i can play howover i want |
19:15.34 | einand | is there any other working linux distor for kaiser than android? |
19:17.40 | AstainHasPS3 | yah a few can't recall names |
19:18.07 | einand | cooolt |
19:18.21 | einand | any cood enuf to replace windows mobile? |
19:18.38 | AstainHasPS3 | androids proally the best for now |
19:18.39 | einand | good |
19:18.49 | AstainHasPS3 | the webos when palm pre comes out could be interesting |
19:19.26 | einand | do you think i will run on kaiser? |
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19:42.52 | einand | i did make vfat of my whole memorycard, now my phone cant find it at all |
19:43.04 | einand | mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1 |
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19:52.01 | einand | now i get an even more strange error. "No partion found on SD card" |
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20:07.37 | AstainHasPS3 | fdisk the mem card instead einand |
20:07.55 | einand | AstainHasPS3: i have |
20:08.06 | AstainHasPS3 | fdisk it and create new partition table and then create only a single partition |
20:08.24 | einand | AstainHasPS3: u now have sdb and sdb1 |
20:08.38 | einand | sdb1 are fdisk table b "win 95 fat32" |
20:08.47 | AstainHasPS3 | hmm odd |
20:09.13 | einand | odd? |
20:09.53 | AstainHasPS3 | uhm n/m yes win 95 fat32 should be fine |
20:09.55 | einand | AstainHasPS3: when i do mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb -I the phone can find the memory card |
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20:13.17 | einand | coolt, now its extrakting sometong |
20:13.53 | einand | waiting for ppp, do i need to have it enabled? |
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20:32.06 | einand | AstainHasPS3: andrid works now. exept it sometimes krashes and restarts the phone in to windows again |
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21:16.14 | Marajin | einand: frankly it's just like that on the kaiser. |
21:16.23 | Marajin | einand: it crashes a lot for me too |
21:16.52 | Marajin | may not be helped by the fact that the kaiser build uses cupcake which isn't entirely stable in the first place I think |
21:17.22 | einand | ok |
21:18.00 | einand | that odens say me anyting, new to linux/android on mobilephones |
21:18.16 | Marajin | huh? |
21:19.00 | einand | i do not knoto make it simple, i do not know what cupcake is/are |
21:19.30 | Marajin | einand: cupcake is a modified version of android, it adds things like an on-screen keyboard which aren't in the normal android |
21:20.01 | einand | aha |
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21:22.49 | ppman | where so I give the @commands to the radio? |
21:22.53 | ppman | *do* |
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21:23.20 | einand_ | so |
21:23.27 | einand_ | i'm back :) |
21:23.55 | ppman | do you know where to give @commands to the radio? |
21:24.08 | einand_ | me? |
21:24.24 | ppman | just asked the question before you came on :P |
21:24.29 | Marajin | I think you can technically echo them directly to the dev node from the commandline if you want to |
21:24.30 | einand_ | ok |
21:24.40 | ppman | Marajin: which device node? |
21:24.55 | einand_ | is there anoter working linux distro than android for kaiser? |
21:24.58 | Marajin | ah well now you're asking, I don't remember. It's been a coupla months |
21:25.13 | Marajin | einand: erm, several but none of them are what you might call 'usable as a regular phone' |
21:25.25 | einand_ | Marajin: as long as i can call, i'm fine ;) |
21:25.30 | Marajin | you can dial and whatnot from the commandline which is very cool as a geek but pretty impractical |
21:25.32 | ppman | it's one of the smd's, right? |
21:25.35 | einand_ | and the phone doesent crash |
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21:26.43 | einand_ | btw, is it just me, or dosent the cam work at android and kaiser? |
21:26.56 | ppman | kaiser android no camera yet. |
21:27.04 | einand_ | ok |
21:27.24 | Marajin | don't think there's a camera driver at all udner linux for the kaiser yet, the vogue has one though I think |
21:27.36 | ppman | I took a look at the vogue code for camera - way too confusing |
21:27.45 | RZK333 | hm, so there is no onscreen keyboard on htc g1 in official android? |
21:27.46 | einand_ | is there someone working on it? |
21:27.49 | ppman | they run on similar chips |
21:28.01 | Marajin | RZK333: I've never seen one but I haven't played much with the G1. |
21:28.01 | einand_ | i mean, kaiser will not be an obsolete phone to run linux? |
21:28.18 | ppman | For AT:mknod /dev/smd0 c 254 0 |
21:28.18 | ppman | GPRS DATAmknod /dev/smd1 c 254 1 |
21:28.18 | ppman | GPS:mknod /dev/smd7 c 254 7 |
21:28.20 | Marajin | einand_: Not really no. there are newer phones with worse specs than the kaiser |
21:28.30 | einand_ | Marajin: :) |
21:28.46 | Marajin | but the newest HTCs are much better than the kaiser heh |
21:28.57 | ppman | tp2 should be amazing :P |
21:28.59 | Marajin | but linux runs better than windows mobile, so the kaiser can definitely run it just fine |
21:29.13 | lupine_85 | anyone from linuxtogo around? |
21:29.14 | einand_ | i do not have any issues with wm |
21:29.14 | Marajin | ppman: tp2 is barely different from the original |
21:29.25 | ppman | has wvga screen... |
21:29.34 | ppman | and tilts |
21:29.37 | einand_ | there is one think i miss, i would like to remap keys |
21:29.38 | RZK333 | wanna onscreen keyboard for htc nike |
21:29.40 | lupine_85 | 800x640 is indeed the bee's nees :) |
21:29.48 | Marajin | I never use the tilt on my kaiser anyway |
21:29.48 | lupine_85 | knees* |
21:29.56 | einand_ | what about linux on sonyericsson xp1? |
21:29.57 | Marajin | turns out to be pretty pointless in a phone :P |
21:30.04 | lupine_85 | though I don't like the look of the touch pro 2's keyboard |
21:30.08 | ppman | I like it... |
21:30.13 | lupine_85 | einand_: last I heard, it was being worked on |
21:30.26 | einand_ | hum.. |
21:30.35 | lupine_85 | ppman: Just on looks - I haven't played - I prefer the tp1 keypad |
21:30.36 | Marajin | yeah people don't like the TP2's keybard er.. there was another complaint too but I can't remember what now |
21:30.39 | einand_ | i'm worried about kasier will be obsolete :( |
21:30.43 | lupine_85 | looks less pressable |
21:30.57 | ppman | woah... android even has a vi-clone... |
21:31.08 | ppman | guess you can expect that from busybox-alikes :P |
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21:31.34 | ppman | is it werid that I can get root access with just su - in the terminal app? |
21:31.58 | einand_ | ppman: there is no root password? |
21:32.02 | ppman | no |
21:32.12 | einand_ | ppman: sounds bad |
21:32.23 | lupine_85 | ppman: if you set a root password, you won't be able to |
21:32.29 | Marajin | oh yeah, the dpad was switched for a 'zoom slider' wasn't it? |
21:32.32 | ppman | G1's android has root unaccessible to everything.. |
21:32.33 | Marajin | and it doesn't work properly |
21:32.46 | lupine_85 | no root password is good for development stuff and fine for single-user apps like phones |
21:32.56 | einand_ | where can i find any intresseting andrid apps? |
21:33.06 | ppman | einand_: the market |
21:33.24 | einand_ | ? |
21:33.46 | ppman | the android market? |
21:33.51 | einand_ | ok |
21:34.04 | ppman | how do I type a tilde on a kaiser? |
21:34.14 | einand_ | www.android.com/market/ ? |
21:34.15 | ppman | in the terminal emulator? |
21:34.34 | ppman | einand_: the market app works on kaiser |
21:34.53 | Marajin | sure it does but the kaiser android crashes so often, what's the point? :P |
21:35.10 | Marajin | gaaaaaah, I'm going to go mad if I don't work out why the toolchain keeps segfaulting on the same file |
21:35.14 | RZK333 | anybody tryed to install debian on G1? i've seen mans and screenshots.. |
21:35.21 | einand_ | ppman: i do not have internet connection on the phone, not unless the wifi will start working ;) |
21:35.31 | RZK333 | wanna see irssi fullscreen on it %) |
21:36.33 | ppman | how come terminal doesn't have internet access? |
21:36.42 | ppman | like ping doesn't work |
21:38.25 | einand_ | do HaRET shut down windows mobile, or are they running side by side? |
21:39.07 | ppman | overwrites winmo in memory |
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21:39.42 | einand_ | ppman: nice :) |
21:40.44 | einand_ | can i give HaRET any parameter or someting, I do not wish to press the "run" button every time (i thinking about putting it in autorun) |
21:41.14 | ppman | ohnoes |
21:41.21 | einand_ | why? |
21:41.21 | ppman | how do you pipe? |
21:41.38 | ppman | how do you type ">" with kaiser??? |
21:41.58 | RZK333 | einand_: rename default.txt to startup.txt |
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21:42.29 | einand_ | is it posiable to remap the keys? |
21:42.39 | ppman | wanna do some kernel hacking? |
21:42.42 | ppman | why do you ask? |
21:42.53 | RZK333 | build your kernel and rewrite ) |
21:43.06 | einand_ | i would like to change the "volum" to the scroll at the left side |
21:43.32 | ppman | I'll need to get into userspace hacking at some point.. |
21:43.41 | ppman | finally get the keyboard a lot better |
21:44.06 | einand_ | is ut just my phone, or do android have a very flaky mobileconection? |
21:44.23 | einand_ | my phone are still, and it still change from 5 bars to 0 bars |
21:44.40 | ppman | which radio? |
21:45.22 | einand_ | ppman: 1.65.16.25 |
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21:45.40 | ppman | hmmm... newest build? |
21:45.49 | ppman | it's probably trying to connect to data.. |
21:46.14 | ppman | failing because I imagine you haven't setup apn? |
21:46.19 | einand_ | ppman: i'm not sure, I do not know how to change ;) |
21:46.31 | einand_ | ppman: thats true, no APN |
21:47.25 | einand_ | i havent enable data yet (in sweden it costs about $2-3 per Megabyte) |
21:48.19 | AstainHasPS3 | ouch thats nasty |
21:48.34 | lupine_85 | gets 500MB for £7.50/mo |
21:48.43 | lupine_85 | hehe |
21:49.03 | ppman | gets 5gb for $30 a month |
21:49.05 | lupine_85 | oh yeah. autopuller definitely works |
21:49.09 | RZK333 | has 1mb per .19 in Russia |
21:49.11 | einand_ | but we do have "unlimited" accounts, for around $10 per month, but i will take a few days to activate |
21:49.22 | RZK333 | *$0.19 |
21:49.27 | ppman | unlimited usually means 5gb |
21:49.34 | einand_ | ppman: thats true |
21:49.47 | ppman | then again, I've never gone over 100mb |
21:49.52 | einand_ | ppman: but change it o a bussnies account, and you will have true unlimited |
21:50.13 | ppman | AT&T gets pissed off if you "overuse their network" |
21:50.25 | lupine_85 | heh, I can imagine |
21:50.33 | lupine_85 | Voda aren't that good about it |
21:50.41 | einand_ | WTF did i do now, now there is no blurr in on the screen |
21:50.59 | einand_ | cristal clear |
21:51.03 | ppman | prolly set wrong resolution in default.txt |
21:51.19 | einand_ | ppman: havent toutched it |
21:52.47 | einand_ | does google android works with google apps accounts? |
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21:56.19 | einand_ | has stolen his girlfreinds simcard for mobile internet ;) |
21:58.06 | cr2 | hmm. rpc |
21:58.46 | ppman | oh cool.. there's a better terminal emulator in the market |
21:59.05 | ppman | which failed to install |
21:59.33 | cr2 | ppman: terminal emulator ? |
22:00.43 | einand_ | anyone, can i get android to work with google apps accounts? |
22:02.49 | einand_ | how is battery time with android? bad/good/worse |
22:03.06 | ppman | bad... |
22:03.18 | ppman | I think we turned off most of the random stuff, though.. |
22:03.37 | ppman | a few builds ago, we turned on wifi, bluetooth, and gps without being able to use them :P |
22:03.46 | einand_ | :) |
22:04.00 | cr2 | ppman: gps where ? |
22:04.07 | ppman | whoops |
22:04.11 | ppman | thought we did |
22:04.21 | cr2 | which device ? |
22:04.22 | einand_ | cool, internet works :) |
22:04.25 | ppman | kaiser |
22:04.35 | ppman | cr2: run "strings" on a radio .nb file |
22:04.36 | cr2 | dcordes_ said it works |
22:04.49 | einand_ | ppman: do you think wifi will work soon? |
22:04.51 | ppman | scordes_ is a liar :D |
22:05.08 | cr2 | ppman: gps is just an smd channel, how do you turn it off ? |
22:05.15 | einand_ | strange, Why does my phone think i roamin, but i'm still in the same network |
22:05.24 | ppman | must have made a mistake.. |
22:05.30 | ppman | actually, |
22:05.31 | ppman | maybe.. |
22:05.45 | einand_ | :( |
22:05.46 | ppman | you can give power to the receiver hardware itself |
22:05.47 | cr2 | ppman: gps does not work for me on raph |
22:05.53 | einand_ | error when i try to search for networks |
22:05.59 | cr2 | hehe. how ? |
22:06.35 | ppman | think there's a gpio or whatnot, right? |
22:06.45 | cr2 | ppman: can you try at@startgps? |
22:06.53 | cr2 | ppman: no. i wish it was so easy ;) |
22:07.29 | cr2 | "at@startgps?" |
22:07.39 | ppman | I can't pipe.. |
22:07.44 | cr2 | it should tell you if gps is started |
22:07.47 | cr2 | use 'cu' |
22:07.51 | ppman | no ">" key |
22:07.56 | ppman | no cu command on android |
22:07.59 | lupine_85 | ppman: get a charmap installed? :) |
22:08.04 | cr2 | use angstrom |
22:08.12 | ppman | yeah.. |
22:08.44 | einand_ | why is the screen blury? |
22:08.54 | einand_ | when i have the "correct" resolution? |
22:09.02 | ppman | we're faking HVGA on a QVGA screen |
22:09.09 | einand_ | ok |
22:09.44 | einand_ | thats explayns why the settings have 2x the hight |
22:10.12 | einand_ | lol |
22:10.30 | einand_ | Google Maps @ Androids take me to the wrong contry |
22:10.38 | ppman | california, right? |
22:10.44 | einand_ | no, netherlands |
22:10.44 | ppman | that's the my location demo |
22:10.57 | ppman | close enough :P |
22:11.05 | einand_ | :) |
22:11.22 | einand_ | sweden, netherlands. At least in europe ;) |
22:12.48 | einand_ | ghaaa |
22:13.09 | einand_ | it have english layout, what button do you make @ with |
22:13.17 | einand_ | row and colms pleas |
22:13.19 | einand_ | e |
22:13.35 | ppman | did you set atttilt to 1 or 0? |
22:13.52 | einand_ | whats that? |
22:13.57 | ppman | basically, is ! and @ switched? |
22:14.22 | ppman | AT&T messed up the keyboard layout on kaiser, called it a tilt |
22:14.39 | einand_ | ppman: in my upper right corner do i have @ when i press it i will get ) |
22:14.39 | cr2 | lol. "clk_regime_sel_uart_clk_src is depreciated" |
22:14.40 | ppman | then again, they've messed up every HTC's keyboard layout... |
22:14.56 | ppman | woah... wrong language keyboard :P |
22:15.04 | einand_ | ppman: i have a swedish one |
22:15.22 | ppman | depending on what value you set in default.txt, it's either top left or top left over one column |
22:15.55 | ppman | I'll setup a swedish layout in the kernel, if you'd like, |
22:16.01 | ppman | but take a picture of your keyboard |
22:16.21 | einand_ | ppman: i will se if I can find one (do not own any camere for the moment) |
22:17.53 | ppman | does anyone know if other kaiser variants exist? |
22:18.46 | ppman | kayboard-wise? |
22:19.01 | einand_ | ppman: norwegan and dannish? |
22:19.07 | ppman | that it? |
22:19.13 | einand_ | i don't know |
22:19.29 | einand_ | but i know that we have 3 more letters in the alpabeh (sweden have åäö) |
22:19.48 | einand_ | thats why tahy changed the layout |
22:20.07 | ppman | geez... why can't everyone just use our language? :D |
22:20.26 | einand_ | i agree, then i would have been beeter on it ;) |
22:21.06 | einand_ | france, looks diffent also |
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22:22.03 | ppman | fsck... how many layouts do I need to make??? |
22:22.13 | einand_ | for me, one ;) |
22:22.36 | ppman | find me a picture and I'll make it |
22:22.36 | einand_ | ppman: is it to hard do me some kind of "map" file |
22:22.41 | ppman | yes.. |
22:22.49 | ppman | this stuff is all in kernel |
22:22.57 | ppman | arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c |
22:23.57 | einand_ | ok, i will take my girlfriends mobile, and take a picture, cand find any on the web |
22:24.20 | ppman | I think I'll modify the atttilt code... make a general option for layout |
22:25.29 | einand_ | ok? |
22:25.49 | cr2 | aha. |
22:25.54 | cr2 | AT@setgps=99,7,50,4 |
22:25.55 | cr2 | AT@setgps=99,7,50,5 |
22:26.12 | ppman | I just got angstrom on here.. |
22:26.20 | ppman | are those to smd0 or 7? |
22:26.35 | cr2 | smd0 |
22:26.54 | einand_ | ppman: i have a picture now, i'm just uploadning it |
22:26.55 | cr2 | try to query it first |
22:27.05 | cr2 | 'at@setgps?' |
22:27.29 | cr2 | these two commands above may be enabling the agps |
22:27.34 | ppman | erm... |
22:27.41 | ppman | permission denied, line in use |
22:28.06 | einand_ | WTF, have my provider done. its says roaming in windows mobile aswell now |
22:28.51 | cr2 | ppman: chown root.uucp /dev/smd0 |
22:29.04 | cr2 | su - uucp |
22:29.10 | cr2 | cu -l /dev/smd0 |
22:29.52 | ppman | connected |
22:29.54 | ppman | thanks |
22:30.17 | einand_ | does this mean that gps will work soon? |
22:30.26 | ppman | I like how I can't see what I type :P |
22:30.47 | ppman | responds @SETGPS: 99,7,50,0 |
22:30.57 | cr2 | ok, that's nice. |
22:31.06 | cr2 | because i get @gps: 0 |
22:31.11 | cr2 | on raph. |
22:31.29 | cr2 | so 99,7,50,0 is a legitimate combination too. |
22:31.39 | cr2 | do you use agps on wince ? |
22:31.51 | cr2 | you have booted with gps enabled ? |
22:32.05 | ppman | gps not enabled at time of boot.. |
22:32.17 | cr2 | ok, then maybe 0 is off. |
22:32.29 | einand_ | ppman: http://upload.snelhest.org/v.php?id=090226DSC00018.JPG [+] |
22:32.31 | cr2 | can you try to boot with gps enabled ? |
22:32.46 | ppman | one sec.. |
22:32.51 | ppman | want to try something first |
22:32.57 | einand_ | np |
22:33.11 | cr2 | ok |
22:33.12 | einand_ | why, does it dissconnect when i try do syncronise data |
22:33.25 | cr2 | hmm |
22:33.27 | cr2 | GPS: [PAModuleInitClient] ERROR: pdsm_client_pa_reg for PA event failed |
22:33.32 | ppman | cr2: do you know what HTCPDPFD does? |
22:33.34 | cr2 | PA is preamplifier ?? |
22:33.44 | cr2 | no |
22:33.52 | cr2 | PDP is something gsm related |
22:33.58 | ppman | no... |
22:34.05 | ppman | I'm looking at the radio |
22:34.12 | ppman | seems to be battery related |
22:34.19 | cr2 | on kaiser ? |
22:34.24 | ppman | well, |
22:34.31 | cr2 | kaiser uses i2c directly. |
22:34.41 | ppman | I know that - I wrote the first driver :P |
22:34.47 | ppman | it's actually a dream radio |
22:34.54 | ppman | that I flashed to my kaiesr |
22:35.06 | ppman | yeah, seems to not support that |
22:35.15 | cr2 | on raph the battery is served by pmic chip. accessed over SBI by amss for you. |
22:35.37 | cr2 | how does g1 control the battery ? |
22:35.44 | einand_ | how can i see what network i'm connected to, 2g or 3g |
22:36.02 | ppman | cr2: looks like radio calls.. |
22:36.06 | cr2 | einand_: at* something |
22:36.10 | lupine_85 | hold it next to a speaker and listen to the blips sounds it makes? ;) |
22:36.17 | ppman | haven't looked at the code, but there's stuff in this radio.. |
22:36.27 | einand_ | cr2: i do not wish to make some commandline hacking ;) |
22:36.34 | ppman | einand_: speed test :P |
22:36.48 | ppman | okay, gps is on... do I need a fix? |
22:37.04 | ppman | I'll try without |
22:37.09 | cr2 | ppman: there is a lot of code in amss that we are not really interested in. |
22:37.17 | cr2 | try without |
22:37.24 | einand_ | anyway browser seems to work, but i cant creat a syncronice my google account :( |
22:37.34 | cr2 | we need to get at least some nmea datastream first. |
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22:39.01 | cr2 | GPS: [SetupGPSConfigForGetPosition] GPS Mode - For legacy applications, use default configuration. |
22:39.11 | einand_ | :( |
22:39.15 | cr2 | yeah, we are legacy, thankyouverymuch |
22:39.24 | einand_ | do google have problems, or is it my phone that can't connect |
22:39.59 | cr2 | uh. AT@CELLID? |
22:40.24 | cr2 | isn't at+creg=2 reporting it ? |
22:40.37 | einand_ | at+cops? |
22:40.40 | ppman | is HTCCSQ signal quality? |
22:40.48 | ppman | keeps popping up values on mine |
22:40.57 | ppman | anyway, what command am I trying? |
22:41.50 | cr2 | yes |
22:42.15 | einand_ | Why do all the bars in reciptions down to 0 when i try to sync to google ? |
22:42.16 | cr2 | try 'at@cellid?' and 'at@startgps?' |
22:42.27 | ppman | at@setgps? responds @SETGPS 99,7,50,0 |
22:42.38 | cr2 | einand_: lol. it's a conspiracy. |
22:42.41 | ppman | same as before |
22:42.56 | cr2 | ppman: get a fix first ? |
22:43.04 | einand_ | but the browser and goggle maps work :( |
22:43.09 | cr2 | ppman: do you have the serial port open at boot ? |
22:43.09 | ppman | that requires going outside :P |
22:43.13 | cr2 | ok |
22:43.20 | ppman | I'll try from my window |
22:43.28 | ppman | what do you mean by serial port open at boot? |
22:43.30 | cr2 | virtual serial. at least that's how i set it up. |
22:43.41 | cr2 | gps virtual serial port |
22:44.11 | ppman | in windows? |
22:44.47 | cr2 | yes |
22:44.50 | cr2 | GPS: [NMEAThread - ReadData] No listeners currently. Stop reading NMEA from SMD |
22:45.33 | cr2 | this one needs to be cleared too: TCXO_LOCK_ID_GPS |
22:45.37 | cr2 | which tcx0 |
22:46.14 | ppman | I'm using visualgpsce.... |
22:46.22 | ppman | on the GPS on com4 |
22:46.40 | cr2 | ok |
22:46.46 | ppman | hold on, brb |
22:51.11 | einand_ | do i need to change APN in android interface? |
22:51.22 | einand_ | or is the startup.txt all i need? |
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22:55.42 | ppman | can't get a fix... |
22:55.42 | ppman | I've never been able to get one in our yard :P |
22:56.40 | Bushman | re |
22:56.41 | cr2 | yeah, the msm gps is not great |
22:57.35 | Bushman | anyone can post me a link to some recent (preferably working) version of some linux for BA? |
22:57.36 | cr2 | i was running it side by side with sirf3-based grmn 76cx |
22:57.52 | cr2 | Bushman: linuxtogo ? |
22:58.02 | einand_ | why do the browser connect to internet, but nothing else? |
22:58.37 | cr2 | ppman: do you get the cellid response ? does it match the at+creg=2 responses ? |
23:00.19 | ppman | gotta boot back up again |
23:00.27 | ppman | will it be only one number, |
23:00.30 | Bushman | cr2: some working one |
23:00.32 | ppman | not even on its own line? |
23:00.32 | einand_ | strange, and anouing, browser, and google maps do have internet connections, but noting else :( |
23:00.43 | Bushman | i don't know, there was this angstrom or something |
23:00.48 | Bushman | is it fixed yet? |
23:00.59 | Bushman | there were problems with phone all and wifi |
23:04.08 | Bushman | btw, i donno why but my old SD with linux on it has misplcaced somewhere and i need to create new one |
23:04.26 | Bushman | what was he default FS for linux part? |
23:04.47 | cr2 | ppman: @CELLID: Lat=%lf, Lon=%lf" |
23:05.10 | ppman | wait, what? |
23:05.24 | cr2 | Bushman: i think BabelO was the last one working on BA |
23:05.54 | cr2 | ppman: what does at@cellid? say ? |
23:06.34 | ppman | 4 |
23:06.44 | Bushman | BabelO: you there? |
23:06.55 | cr2 | ppman: ok |
23:07.02 | cr2 | ppman: i'll boot my raph |
23:07.13 | ppman | some +CREG stuff then pops up, but I'm not sure if I caused that... |
23:07.24 | cr2 | +creg is async |
23:07.35 | cr2 | do 'at+creg=2' |
23:07.52 | ppman | just sez 0 |
23:08.06 | ppman | then another +CREG line popped up... |
23:08.22 | ppman | I g2g... |
23:08.28 | ppman | busy tonight :/ |
23:13.13 | einand_ | uptime shows wrong, or do i have 343248:12:20 long uptime ;) |
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23:20.08 | BabelO | Bushman: i m here now, but too much beer i think |
23:21.39 | ali1234 | BabelO: do you have a raw zImage for artemis? |
23:22.15 | einand_ | are android the most complette linuxdistro for kaiser? |
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23:24.25 | cr2 | BabelO: big brother is watching you :) |
23:24.32 | cr2 | at@cellid? |
23:24.34 | cr2 | @CELLID: Lat=0.000000, Lon=0.000000, Height=0.000000 |
23:24.35 | cr2 | OK |
23:24.55 | BabelO | ali1234: no raw image, just my qtopia image |
23:25.06 | BabelO | cr2: lol, we are on M |
23:25.12 | cr2 | so the gps config is different on kaiser |
23:25.14 | BabelO | cr2: i try build for wince |
23:25.29 | cr2 | BabelO: i will need the qtext image too |
23:25.38 | BabelO | but have some fail between win mobile 5 and 6 |
23:25.50 | BabelO | cr qtext image ? |
23:25.58 | cr2 | yes, roadmap does not wantto work on wince6.1 too |
23:26.02 | BabelO | you have my artemis image which are pretty generic |
23:26.04 | cr2 | qtextended |
23:26.10 | cr2 | ok |
23:26.46 | BabelO | cr2: i just build 4.3.2 wince at this time need to ask lpotter or ljp about qt wince |
23:26.59 | cr2 | hehe. maybe you may try to compile the raph linload.exe |
23:27.01 | cr2 | ok |
23:27.01 | BabelO | seem that newer version don't want to compile |
23:27.21 | BabelO | cr i can i you tell me your kernel svn |
23:27.36 | cr2 | in the worst case scenario i'll enable gps on athena, and will test on athena |
23:29.36 | cr2 | BabelO: it's at linuxtogo, which is not responding to me now |
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23:30.26 | BabelO | cr2: branch ? |
23:30.34 | BabelO | htc-msm ? |
23:32.24 | cr2 | htc-msm-2.6.27 |
23:32.35 | cr2 | htcraphael_defconfig |
23:32.49 | cr2 | i don't rememebr the mem= |
23:32.59 | cr2 | need to check the NetRipper's site |
23:33.07 | cr2 | NetRipper: are you alive ? |
23:33.40 | cr2 | at@startgps=99,7,50,4 |
23:33.41 | cr2 | ERROR |
23:33.48 | cr2 | seems to be some kaiser legacy |
23:34.22 | cr2 | at@startgps? |
23:34.22 | cr2 | @GPS: 0 |
23:34.22 | cr2 | OK |
23:34.45 | lupine_85 | cr2: http://forest.lupine.me.uk/gitweb/ mirrors linuxtogo |
23:35.00 | lupine_85 | (some of the branches, anyway) |
23:35.16 | lupine_85 | git:// access is slightly broken right now |
23:37.03 | cr2 | at@startgps |
23:37.05 | cr2 | [WCDMA] startGPS OK |
23:37.07 | cr2 | OK |
23:37.08 | cr2 | at@startgps? |
23:37.09 | cr2 | @GPS: 1 |
23:37.11 | cr2 | OK |
23:37.12 | cr2 | amd dead ;) |
23:37.36 | cr2 | ok, it's an oops. |
23:38.13 | cr2 | BUG: scheduling while atomic |
23:38.31 | cr2 | ARM9 has crashed |
23:38.45 | cr2 | smem: DIAG '' |
23:39.12 | cr2 | command=0x22 |
23:39.42 | cr2 | and then oops in handle_modem_crash |
23:40.08 | ali1234 | how do you even make those haret+kernel+default.txt blobs? and more importantly how do i unmake one? |
23:40.23 | cr2 | maejrep: it seems that you are doing something wrong here :) |
23:40.46 | cr2 | ali1234: unmake is not so easy. |
23:40.56 | cr2 | ali1234: make linload target for haret |
23:42.17 | ali1234 | cheers |
23:43.35 | cr2 | 68? 0x22 restart arm9 0 |
23:44.19 | cr2 | hehe. when it is really crashed, sending a dex cmd is not very useful. |
23:46.15 | ali1234 | in haret source there are two scripts, make-bootbundle.py and extract-bootbundle.py |
23:46.34 | cr2 | never used extract |
23:47.53 | ali1234 | it seems to have worked :) |
23:50.58 | cr2 | haha. gps does not work in wince anymore |