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| 00:18.37 | dcordes | NetRipper: it would be useful for your flexibility to setup openembedded locally so you can easily build things like memtest ppp etc. |
| 00:19.41 | dcordes | NetRipper: I'm always eager to help with that if you need builds etc. also there is the angstrom-distribution.org/repo which is also accessibly via opkg in the images |
| 00:19.46 | dcordes | gnight |
| 00:30.35 | maejrep | i just used the same compiler I use to build the kernel, to build i2ctools |
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| 00:41.41 | maejrep | cr2_: how do we enable/set gp_clk? i see it listed now on MSM_CLK, but I don't see how we should enable it |
| 00:42.52 | maejrep | in spl, it looks like it writes 0xa06 to CLK_CTRL+0x5c (same as raph100) |
| 00:43.14 | maejrep | but is that enough to enable it? and is there any way to change the frequency |
| 00:49.10 | cr2_ | maejrep: g1 uses it as pwm for the lcd |
| 00:49.49 | maejrep | yeah that's where I am.. is it wrong to use gl_clk there? |
| 00:49.54 | maejrep | gp* |
| 00:50.22 | cr2_ | where ? |
| 00:50.31 | maejrep | in -panel.c |
| 00:50.39 | maejrep | for lcd |
| 00:51.16 | cr2_ | why is it wrong, if you need it ? |
| 00:52.10 | maejrep | I'm asking if we do need it... |
| 00:52.12 | maejrep | you said g1 uses it |
| 00:52.44 | cr2_ | as pwm |
| 00:52.57 | maejrep | not as a clock? |
| 00:52.58 | cr2_ | we have it =0xa06 NS-only |
| 00:53.02 | cr2_ | no |
| 00:53.07 | maejrep | ok |
| 00:53.10 | maejrep | hmm |
| 00:53.19 | maejrep | is that the only thing gp_clk would be used for? |
| 00:53.31 | NetRipper | dcordes, couldecho ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAABIwAAAQEAt2xkF8j6xPHYL7Ysgj+QKqv1EiV1nnvuATjMg0Bc/PxtnNs4PuNlom+bWbheBXO05nCCWmIlwlrlFCQnZfz70KLxrT78z0GMBMLysYVL9fBbAkwusQqstJtMUXyNwhqvCs5hNZinF3bWb87TgWjLM0vSwwd7cOlcHwgiLVtSM8UqMeVWpauj4dcZHrkQZK0wDLSGDpf/4U+cFfEpUEsr7zjbiwldG04qF3CfY7t2WOGrTSAS+bVOI16jxIC3vKESZNiYuCIHgBxM8SD8/ZM59KYBBEBwQ92iX2dszLlokBCZ57p15lDHbB5wyuID2Po+jLwax7cxDqzhQuPkFQX2iQ== netripper@eagle >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 00:53.37 | NetRipper | erm |
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| 00:53.38 | NetRipper | right |
| 00:53.42 | Untouchab1e | Good evening! :D |
| 00:53.47 | tmzt | gpu I think |
| 00:53.50 | cr2_ | raph uses it as clock |
| 00:54.03 | maejrep | grr |
| 00:54.09 | cr2_ | but if N/D != 2 then it's a pwm |
| 00:54.10 | NetRipper | im glad thats my public key |
| 00:54.11 | maejrep | raph uses it for lcd? |
| 00:54.32 | maejrep | NetRipper: it's uber public now ;p |
| 00:54.34 | Untouchab1e | Making any progress here? :) Saw you have been working on several secret projets maejrep :) |
| 00:54.44 | NetRipper | maejrep, yer, sigh, rightclick-- |
| 00:54.53 | cr2_ | maejrep: not 100% sure |
| 00:55.03 | cr2_ | maejrep: but it is set to this value |
| 00:55.04 | maejrep | cr2_: ok |
| 00:55.09 | maejrep | yeah I saw that in spl |
| 00:55.36 | maejrep | but I wasn't sure if a) we actually need it in the lcd code, and b) if 0xa06 is enough to use it correctly |
| 00:55.39 | cr2_ | maejrep: grp_clk is more complex |
| 00:55.57 | maejrep | oh that's good :) |
| 00:55.58 | cr2_ | because it sets bits in the +0x2XX area |
| 00:56.20 | cr2_ | and the oemsbl deals with the +0x1XX area |
| 00:56.28 | cr2_ | but we don't need to take care of these |
| 00:57.08 | NetRipper | so please anyone add that public key to their authorized_keys |
| 00:57.09 | maejrep | ok, so if I setup GP_CLK as .ns_only=0xa06 and .offset=0x5c, it would be good enough? |
| 00:57.10 | NetRipper | anyway |
| 00:57.27 | cr2_ | btw, spl uses 19.2MHz for wifi, while tiwlan* has complete mess |
| 00:57.36 | maejrep | i like complete mess |
| 00:57.42 | tmzt | cr2_: something in the commitdiff: |
| 00:57.43 | cr2_ | maejrep: for all our devices - yes. |
| 00:57.45 | maejrep | why does spl do anything for wifi? :p |
| 00:58.06 | cr2_ | maejrep: for wifi testing. raph800 does not do it |
| 00:58.11 | tmzt | '/* Eenable VREG_MMC pin to turn on fastclock oscillator : colin */ |
| 00:58.13 | maejrep | lol |
| 00:58.17 | maejrep | of course not! :p |
| 00:58.55 | cr2_ | maejrep: most spl's since blueangel had wifi testing code |
| 00:59.05 | cr2_ | there are even spls with sound testing :) |
| 00:59.09 | maejrep | nice |
| 00:59.27 | NetRipper | dcordes, do you have an howto on to get setup? i'd want to get to the point where i can build an angstrom image like you did... is http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/building-%C3%A5ngstr%C3%B6m a good place to start? let me know if you got some more info :) |
| 00:59.48 | cr2_ | NetRipper: build for the universal |
| 01:00.28 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok |
| 01:00.57 | cr2_ | there should not be any difference in core support |
| 01:00.58 | NetRipper | maejrep, regarding those patches, can you send them to me when they're ready enough to be comitted? (and get your own account!) ;) |
| 01:01.53 | NetRipper | cr2_, ok, coincidently.. i had a universal here for a few months.. did nothing with it :p |
| 01:01.56 | maejrep | lol, I only keep sending them to you because I thought you preferred it that way! :p (and its nice to have a second set of eyes reviewing the code first) |
| 01:02.43 | cr2_ | maejrep: as long as it works, nobody will complain |
| 01:02.45 | NetRipper | maejrep, i agree on the reviewing, but can always correct what's in git ;) |
| 01:02.51 | cr2_ | only me, probably :) |
| 01:02.56 | maejrep | lol |
| 01:02.58 | maejrep | ;) |
| 01:03.34 | NetRipper | i usually just check if it works for raph100 and make changes for it.. and try to add it similarly for diam100/diam800 to keep those guys happy too |
| 01:03.38 | cr2_ | yes, we should aim at the mainline |
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| 01:04.44 | NetRipper | i suppose we should rebase on top of the latest git sometime as well |
| 01:04.53 | NetRipper | with all the saphire changes |
| 01:04.59 | NetRipper | or wait till that stabalizes a bit |
| 01:05.02 | NetRipper | may be better |
| 01:05.59 | cr2_ | NetRipper: will bt work without ? |
| 01:06.27 | cr2_ | NetRipper: sapphire changes are not that big. |
| 01:06.52 | NetRipper | bt work without what? rebasing? |
| 01:06.55 | cr2_ | i wish they had epson mdc, then the code wold have been much more clean |
| 01:06.58 | cr2_ | yes |
| 01:07.12 | NetRipper | i suppose it should, have there been many bt changes after our last rebase then? |
| 01:07.21 | cr2_ | or any foobar non-toshiba mdc |
| 01:07.43 | Untouchab1e | Whats the main area of focus right now? (sorry for asking, but been away this weekend) |
| 01:07.55 | maejrep | cr2_: I really was close to getting lcd fully working |
| 01:08.26 | cr2_ | ok |
| 01:09.53 | maejrep | ok, nice, I think I fixed whatever broke it last night |
| 01:09.59 | maejrep | so I'm back where I started heh |
| 01:10.01 | Untouchab1e | How did your wifi driver go NetRipper? (or was it Maejrep who was working on that?) |
| 01:10.30 | NetRipper | raph800's lcd, raph800's cdma/data, raph100's gprs/umts, someone was working on battery i think, nand to be able to read wince partition, g-sensor, thats about it i think |
| 01:10.30 | maejrep | cr2_: so, the display is offset some |
| 01:10.50 | maejrep | NetRipper: I started working on making battery pdata-driven |
| 01:11.05 | maejrep | and copied it to htc_battery_smem, since it really is a different driver |
| 01:11.09 | maejrep | (not using rpc at all) |
| 01:11.12 | NetRipper | Untouchab1e, so there are many things simultaneously being developed ;) |
| 01:11.23 | NetRipper | maejrep, ah ok |
| 01:11.24 | Untouchab1e | Yeah, I figured |
| 01:11.26 | Untouchab1e | :) |
| 01:12.06 | tmzt | maejrep: which were you using for android function ethernet, rndis or cdc_ether? |
| 01:12.10 | maejrep | NetRipper: so the pdata should specify the 3 gpios, the smem offset, and the smem field size (2 on raph100, 4 on raph800) |
| 01:12.18 | tmzt | maejrep: and do you have a patch somewhere |
| 01:12.21 | maejrep | tmzt: I don't know what that means.. |
| 01:12.25 | Untouchab1e | Last night, I was thinking though.. How are we working on this? Are we going Code 'N Fix all the way here? Or do we know who's working on what and so on? (I know we have the git and all) |
| 01:12.26 | NetRipper | maejrep, did you already get as far as to get decent battery percentage info? |
| 01:12.27 | maejrep | I use whatever is in git |
| 01:12.41 | maejrep | which I think is cdc_ether |
| 01:12.46 | NetRipper | tmzt, we use the 'ether' android function, which is a basic cdc_ether implementation |
| 01:13.02 | tmzt | ok, what driver does that need? |
| 01:13.12 | maejrep | NetRipper: I found a mistake that might have caused my bad capacity values... I declared the volatile pointer as unsigned short, where raph800 needs unsigned int |
| 01:13.23 | NetRipper | tmzt, just msm_usbhs and the ether enabled |
| 01:13.33 | tmzt | I mean on the host |
| 01:13.50 | NetRipper | tmzt, on the host you can use any 2.6.25+ kernel |
| 01:13.57 | NetRipper | mainstream |
| 01:14.02 | tmzt | ok |
| 01:14.31 | maejrep | NetRipper: I've also been making some changes to Kconfig as I do these things.. like, MSM_BATTCHG, which allows a selection between RPC and smem api |
| 01:16.32 | NetRipper | maejrep, ok nice |
| 01:16.53 | Untouchab1e | Btw guys, is there anything you need? |
| 01:17.16 | NetRipper | we'll want to touch existing code as few as possible.. to prevent a lot of issues while rebasing ;) |
| 01:17.33 | NetRipper | Untouchab1e, let me just say you're still doing a great job on the forum; ) |
| 01:18.08 | Untouchab1e | Many thanks... I am a bit hesitant, but I am trying to move people who just want support on getting it running away from XDA, to clear it up a bit |
| 01:18.37 | cr2_ | i think the battery on raph is monitored by pmic |
| 01:18.45 | cr2_ | so dex is the only option |
| 01:18.52 | NetRipper | Untouchab1e, btw, on that latest android build you put up a few days ago.. the 'browser' keeps crashing for me.. im still using the build in your 3 feb package.. which doesn't crash the browser |
| 01:18.58 | cr2_ | unlike the kaiser where it's done over i2c |
| 01:19.03 | tmzt | the new HTC code duplicates a lot |
| 01:19.21 | Untouchab1e | NetRipper.. thats strange.. thanks for the feedback though :) |
| 01:20.00 | NetRipper | :) |
| 01:20.03 | NetRipper | im done for today |
| 01:20.04 | NetRipper | good night |
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| 01:20.48 | maejrep | gnite |
| 01:21.01 | maejrep | cr2_: yeah, I provided the RPC option so it can still work for trout :) |
| 01:21.28 | Untouchab1e | btw, a guy on my forums has a Raph300.. Anyone have any idea how it differs from the others? |
| 01:21.40 | maejrep | i think its just like a raph100 |
| 01:21.52 | maejrep | but maybe a warranty-replace model? or refurb or something liek that |
| 01:22.05 | Untouchab1e | Aah.. Thats it maybe.. Still kinda strange ^^ |
| 01:24.13 | maejrep | cr2_: should I try to turn off the backlight before initializing the panel? |
| 01:24.21 | maejrep | it does some really weird things while it's initializing :x |
| 01:25.10 | maejrep | NetRipper: btw, with your RAMSIZE 0x59* change, I just got another hang at the same spot it used to happen at (right after msm_i2c_probe) |
| 01:30.27 | cr2_ | cc,20 ? |
| 01:30.52 | cr2_ | maejrep: there is also an at@vbatt option ? |
| 01:31.07 | maejrep | maybe? |
| 01:31.25 | maejrep | but for the lcd backlight, problem is that microp-klt is loaded after board-panel |
| 01:31.25 | cr2_ | NetRipper: can you check the at@vbatt? and at@vbatt=? commands in linux ? |
| 01:32.08 | cr2_ | maejrep: you can add 'setlcd 1' to the boot haret script |
| 01:32.17 | cr2_ | or was it 'setlcd 4' ? |
| 01:32.23 | maejrep | i think 4 is off |
| 01:32.26 | cr2_ | ok |
| 01:32.29 | maejrep | but then you don't see anything during boot :p |
| 01:32.53 | cr2_ | hm. you should not rely on wince for that |
| 01:33.00 | maejrep | basically i just want to try to avoid the odd color-fading-bad-looking-ness that you get when initializing while its powered on |
| 01:34.12 | cr2_ | NetRipper: there are also at@startgps ; at@stopgps and at@setgps. i think it was discussed by hermes people |
| 01:35.24 | maejrep | i'll try vbatt on raph800, assuming I can get it to boot again |
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| 01:36.06 | Untouchab1e | Good luck all! :D Im off :) |
| 01:37.11 | maejrep | god this sucks... it keeps hanging at the same problem spots we had before, but like 10x as often |
| 01:37.19 | Untouchab1e | _'( |
| 01:39.02 | maejrep | asldkgfagbnhsdug |
| 01:39.08 | maejrep | and new problem spots that were never a problem before |
| 01:39.43 | maejrep | its hanging after get_smem_clock: timeout state ... |
| 01:40.05 | maejrep | if its not there, its after i2c_probe |
| 01:40.31 | maejrep | if not there, its a crc error while unpacking initramfs |
| 01:43.23 | cr2_ | ram corruption ? |
| 01:46.44 | cr2_ | maejrep: i can boot even from the landscape mode |
| 01:47.01 | maejrep | landscape mode? |
| 01:49.23 | cr2_ | in wince |
| 01:49.40 | cr2_ | what is the linux usb ip ? |
| 01:49.43 | maejrep | is that usually a problem? |
| 01:49.45 | cr2_ | ah |
| 01:49.52 | maejrep | 192.168.0.206 ? |
| 01:49.56 | cr2_ | yes |
| 01:50.03 | cr2_ | it's on the screen |
| 01:50.57 | maejrep | damn it |
| 01:51.17 | cr2_ | maejrep: the clk api should be more verbose. also for the failed clocks |
| 01:51.18 | maejrep | i don't understand how anything that I possibly could have changed in the last hour would do this >:| |
| 01:51.25 | cr2_ | hmm |
| 01:51.28 | maejrep | yes, my version is |
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| 01:51.40 | maejrep | (can't be too verbose, for non-failures, else you get flooded) |
| 01:52.32 | maejrep | it dies here: |
| 01:52.33 | maejrep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.34 | maejrep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.34 | maejrep | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.45 | maejrep | in timer.c :| |
| 01:53.36 | cr2_ | maejrep: vbatt : |
| 01:53.43 | cr2_ | at@vbatt? |
| 01:53.44 | cr2_ | ERROR |
| 01:53.46 | cr2_ | at@vbatt=? |
| 01:53.47 | cr2_ | 1 3484 3272 1479 |
| 01:53.49 | cr2_ | OK |
| 01:54.02 | maejrep | so, still needs formula |
| 01:55.32 | cr2_ | yeah |
| 01:55.36 | cr2_ | at@startgps? |
| 01:55.38 | cr2_ | @GPS: 0 |
| 01:55.39 | cr2_ | OK |
| 01:56.29 | cr2_ | at@startgps |
| 01:56.33 | cr2_ | [WCDMA] startGPS OK |
| 01:56.33 | cr2_ | OK |
| 01:56.51 | maejrep | then anything on smd27 ? |
| 01:57.02 | maejrep | guess not :p |
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| 01:58.38 | cr2 | hm. crashed after startgps |
| 02:01.57 | maejrep | heh |
| 02:02.01 | maejrep | http://www.privatepaste.com/9d1Og8NNvJ |
| 02:11.27 | cr2 | { 0x200, 0xa6 }, // TV-Out Clock |
| 02:13.05 | maejrep | yeah, I don't think this is related to our tv out though |
| 02:13.16 | maejrep | the docs say that it doesn't have an NTSC encoder on the chip |
| 02:13.21 | maejrep | which makes it rather useless |
| 02:13.29 | maejrep | (nor PAL for that matter) |
| 02:13.35 | cr2 | it's not used |
| 02:13.40 | cr2 | at@agpstlshostname? |
| 02:13.42 | cr2 | @AGPSTLSHOSTNAME: htc.com |
| 02:13.44 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:13.45 | cr2 | hehe |
| 02:14.30 | maejrep | so apparently its my htc_battery_smem that breaks smem_clock :( |
| 02:16.48 | cr2 | +HTCerror: 2,A |
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| 02:17.23 | tmzt | agps is really on htc.com? |
| 02:18.13 | cr2 | at+htcagps=? |
| 02:18.15 | cr2 | +HTCAGPS: 5 |
| 02:18.17 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:18.18 | cr2 | at+htcagps=0 |
| 02:18.19 | cr2 | ERROR |
| 02:18.21 | cr2 | at+htcagps=1 |
| 02:18.22 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:19.57 | cr2 | at@startgps crashes the phone after some seconds. watchdog ? |
| 02:20.25 | tmzt | dsp problems? |
| 02:20.52 | cr2 | hmm, don't know |
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| 02:22.41 | maejrep | does gps use dsp? |
| 02:24.45 | cr2 | maybe |
| 02:24.50 | cr2 | it should |
| 02:24.54 | cr2 | at@setgps? |
| 02:24.56 | cr2 | @SETGPS: 99,7,50,0 |
| 02:24.57 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:25.13 | tmzt | ip address? |
| 02:25.18 | tmzt | no, not with 0 |
| 02:27.50 | cr2 | at@agpsaddress? |
| 02:27.52 | cr2 | @AGPSADDRESS: a01653f:7275 |
| 02:27.53 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:29.01 | maejrep | cr2: why is my shit breaking :p |
| 02:29.14 | maejrep | hmm, APGSADDRESS |
| 02:29.20 | maejrep | looks like an ip:port |
| 02:30.05 | cr2 | yes, but this address is not traceroutable |
| 02:31.33 | cr2 | at@speed? |
| 02:31.34 | cr2 | @MCPU: 7 |
| 02:31.36 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:34.23 | maejrep | cr2: 63.101.1.10 ? |
| 02:34.39 | maejrep | OrgName: MCI Communications Services, Inc. d/b/a Verizon Business |
| 02:34.44 | cr2 | is it qualcomm ? |
| 02:35.00 | cr2 | at$3G_AGC_STATUS? |
| 02:35.02 | cr2 | $3G_AGC_STATUS: -15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64,-15,-64 |
| 02:35.03 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:35.17 | tmzt | wow, low level |
| 02:35.17 | maejrep | o.0 |
| 02:35.28 | cr2 | somebody should write a fieldtest app :) |
| 02:35.37 | maejrep | shouldn't be hard |
| 02:35.45 | maejrep | hell you could do it in a shell script ;) |
| 02:35.57 | tmzt | why is it repeating -15,-64 ? |
| 02:36.09 | cr2 | at$3G_NEIGHBOR_ST? |
| 02:36.10 | cr2 | $3G_NEIGHBOR_ST: 0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 |
| 02:36.12 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:36.28 | cr2 | maejrep: yeah, and awk script. does bash support split() ? |
| 02:36.54 | maejrep | I think so.. something like ${FOO/,} or so |
| 02:37.21 | cr2 | at$gsm? |
| 02:37.22 | cr2 | $GSM: 0,"0000","00","0",0 0,0 0,0 0,0 0,0 0,0 0,0,"26207","00000000",0,255,0,-111,0 |
| 02:37.24 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:37.29 | cr2 | it's an o2 sim card |
| 02:37.37 | tmzt | 26207? |
| 02:37.52 | cr2 | t-mob roaming ? |
| 02:37.54 | tmzt | is that the cell id or whatever it's called? |
| 02:38.19 | cr2 | no, cell id is reported with at+creg=2 |
| 02:38.19 | tmzt | carrier id |
| 02:38.39 | maejrep | cr2: are you getting those commands from amss asm? or from hh.org? |
| 02:39.13 | cr2 | strings on amss |
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| 02:39.58 | cr2 | i've written the table on hh.org earlier |
| 02:39.58 | maejrep | need to figure out why my phone is being a bitch |
| 02:40.13 | maejrep | oh :) |
| 02:44.19 | cr2 | AT@AGPSADDRESS =193,253,42,109,7275 |
| 02:44.26 | cr2 | this is from kaiser wiiki |
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| 02:44.42 | maejrep | heh |
| 02:45.15 | cr2 | also port 7275 |
| 02:46.48 | tmzt | do we know the ip vendor for the gps functions, these are developed by qualcomm? |
| 02:47.12 | tmzt | gpsone or whatever |
| 02:49.46 | cr2 | at@usbswitch? |
| 02:49.47 | cr2 | @USB: 0 |
| 02:49.49 | cr2 | OK |
| 02:51.08 | cr2 | http://xtra1.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin |
| 02:51.09 | cr2 | http://xtra2.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin |
| 02:51.11 | cr2 | http://xtra3.gpsonextra.net/xtra.bin |
| 02:51.33 | tmzt | that's in the amss? |
| 02:51.38 | cr2 | yes |
| 02:52.01 | tmzt | so this is the almanac maybe |
| 02:52.15 | tmzt | or firmware, but that doesn't make sense |
| 02:52.22 | cr2 | you can wget it |
| 02:52.30 | cr2 | ephemeris |
| 02:52.43 | cr2 | but just some binary blob |
| 02:52.56 | cr2 | maybe crypted with some key |
| 02:53.04 | tmzt | size? |
| 02:53.58 | cr2 | 39736 23. Feb 03:45 xtra.bin |
| 02:54.22 | tmzt | ok, gta01 had something like this |
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| 02:59.46 | cr2 | ok, good night |
| 03:28.10 | TheiPirate | what is dzo's website |
| 03:28.27 | AstainHasPS3 | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 03:28.50 | TheiPirate | ty |
| 03:33.12 | TheiPirate | his newest release |
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| 03:33.22 | TheiPirate | "The market works now and power collapse works again with hvga. " |
| 03:33.36 | TheiPirate | does this mean the battery shoudl last longer |
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| 05:31.12 | descention | if i download the latest build for kaiser, are there any files i should not be replacing each time? |
| 05:37.25 | TheiPirate | dzo said " |
| 05:37.26 | TheiPirate | You should only need to replace the initrd." |
| 05:37.40 | TheiPirate | this is from his post 2/23/09 |
| 05:38.18 | descention | thank you |
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| 05:56.15 | Untouchab1e | Good morning! |
| 05:56.23 | descention | good mornin |
| 05:56.26 | TheiPirate | hi |
| 05:56.27 | Untouchab1e | How's things? |
| 05:56.44 | TheiPirate | good i guess |
| 05:58.19 | Untouchab1e | Good, good |
| 06:00.32 | descention | conectbot for android works with irssi |
| 06:07.53 | Untouchab1e | Cool |
| 06:11.23 | TheiPirate | irssi? |
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| 06:35.36 | descention | TheiPirate: irssi is a useful irc client for linux, used in the terminal. |
| 06:35.54 | descention | excellent for irc over ssh |
| 06:38.54 | swc|666 | irssi ftw |
| 06:45.00 | descention | agrees |
| 06:45.05 | BHSPitMonkey | concurs |
| 06:46.28 | swc|666 | ;) |
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| 08:06.50 | TheiPirate | madness |
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| 11:38.21 | Untouchab1e | Good afternoon |
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| 12:30.45 | M4Dr3ns3 | hi |
| 12:31.04 | M4Dr3ns3 | anyone knows if there's wifi support in android on an HTC kaiser ? |
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| 13:47.55 | Bushman | hi guys |
| 13:48.35 | Bushman | anyone had this problem where HTC BA can't be turned off? (sleep mode) |
| 13:48.59 | Bushman | tried soft reset and hard reset |
| 13:49.19 | Bushman | my last resort would be format but i want to avoid it |
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| 13:52.53 | captnoord | good afternoon everyone |
| 14:13.43 | Marajin | allo allo |
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| 15:41.18 | orux | maejrep, we have good news: we have blackstone display 100% functional |
| 15:41.53 | captnoord | gj |
| 15:42.08 | orux | take a look: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3367768&postcount=647 |
| 15:45.28 | captnoord | needed it just some extra love |
| 15:45.33 | captnoord | or it needed a hammer? |
| 15:47.22 | orux | a lot of hours :) |
| 15:47.41 | captnoord | a whole lot of love then |
| 15:47.44 | captnoord | good job |
| 15:48.46 | orux | thanks |
| 15:49.24 | orux | but still a lot of mork needed |
| 15:49.38 | orux | 'more work' |
| 15:49.44 | captnoord | as long as you get passed the big bumb |
| 15:50.25 | orux | thanks to the people who is working here |
| 15:50.52 | orux | they are the MASTERS!! |
| 15:51.20 | captnoord | yup |
| 15:53.44 | Marajin | wow.. I thought android was supposed to be reasonable on powerdraw on the kaiser nowadays? |
| 15:54.05 | captnoord | ? |
| 15:54.10 | Marajin | I left it running for an hour in the android suspend mode and it ran the battery from like minimum 75% to dead |
| 15:54.28 | Marajin | when I remembered it was in android and reset to go to winmobile it immediately freaked out and turned itself off |
| 15:54.32 | captnoord | Marajin: suspend mode? |
| 15:54.50 | captnoord | there are 3 diff mode's |
| 15:55.09 | captnoord | mumbles "it has a arm cpu" |
| 15:55.17 | Marajin | well I'm aware |
| 15:55.30 | Marajin | but I thought that the kaiser android dist was meant to go into full sleep |
| 15:55.39 | captnoord | I see |
| 15:55.40 | Marajin | i.e. normal phone suspend mode where your battery should last days |
| 15:56.08 | captnoord | yea, but shuts down everything |
| 15:56.12 | captnoord | as in all crap |
| 15:56.50 | captnoord | regarding these things, they should clock down, turn everything off, and enter sleep mode........ |
| 15:56.50 | Marajin | yes but that's what I want it to do :P |
| 15:56.59 | Marajin | the only thing that should be live is the gsm module |
| 15:57.06 | captnoord | and the clock |
| 15:57.12 | captnoord | timers* |
| 15:57.15 | Marajin | well the RTC yeah |
| 15:57.16 | captnoord | stuff like that |
| 15:57.28 | captnoord | can you change the VCore of the cpu's? |
| 15:57.38 | captnoord | or is that linked the the dynamic clocking? |
| 15:57.41 | Marajin | er, you can in win mobile I recall |
| 15:57.53 | captnoord | then its interesting how to use that |
| 15:58.01 | Marajin | I guess it depends what dzo's done in the kernel for PM |
| 15:58.03 | captnoord | because if the cpu runs on 1.2 V default |
| 15:58.21 | captnoord | and you can change it to 0.85V |
| 15:58.27 | captnoord | it changes the hell out of it |
| 15:58.50 | captnoord | your power concumption will fall.... |
| 15:58.51 | captnoord | :D |
| 15:59.11 | Marajin | yeah I'm pretty aware of how cpu power scaling functions :p |
| 15:59.47 | captnoord | doesn't the VM of android have suspend stuff? |
| 16:00.02 | captnoord | so it can command the kernel todo these things? |
| 16:00.36 | Marajin | well yeah |
| 16:00.47 | Marajin | but the kernel has to support it, hence it depends what dzo's added to the kernel |
| 16:00.54 | Marajin | but I thought someone mentioned their kaiser'd last a day or two |
| 16:00.55 | captnoord | I see |
| 16:00.58 | Marajin | maybe they had a vogue |
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| 16:01.26 | captnoord | and the battery stuff... thats implemented I heared |
| 16:01.41 | captnoord | you can get the power drawn stats from that |
| 16:01.46 | captnoord | and you can have a loot |
| 16:01.46 | cr2 | orux: what is the problem with sd on blac100 ? |
| 16:01.47 | captnoord | look* |
| 16:01.58 | Marajin | yeah the battery stuff is fine |
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| 16:02.21 | orux | cr2, i dont know |
| 16:02.30 | orux | we are using .25 kernel |
| 16:02.30 | captnoord | then you should be able to create a graph and test those suspend functions......... |
| 16:02.35 | Marajin | I'm not that interested really till android's stabler to use anyway, I was just showing off to a guy who got a G1 |
| 16:02.47 | captnoord | I see |
| 16:02.52 | Marajin | he had a hermes when I had a hermes, so I got a kaiser, he sulked, so he got a G1 |
| 16:02.59 | orux | cr2, is it ready in this kernel? |
| 16:03.03 | Marajin | so I went 'meh, so what, my kaiser runs android **point**' |
| 16:03.04 | Marajin | heh :P |
| 16:03.09 | captnoord | heheheheeh |
| 16:03.16 | cr2 | orux: which kernel ? |
| 16:03.32 | Marajin | so he went 'My G1 is better!' which it technically is, but I meant 'meh, I don't care I'm getting a raphael in like 2 weeks anyway' |
| 16:03.49 | cr2 | orux: the slot is known, you only need to set the right detect gpio. an maybe configure the right alt gpios |
| 16:04.01 | captnoord | Marajin: "define better" |
| 16:04.02 | captnoord | :P |
| 16:04.17 | cr2 | orux: but it's all in the MSM_SDIO and Raphael_GPIO pages |
| 16:04.22 | captnoord | nah |
| 16:04.27 | captnoord | gonna make some thea |
| 16:04.29 | captnoord | tea* |
| 16:05.21 | orux | cr2, ok, we need to study it. we recently have the screen working :) |
| 16:06.00 | Marajin | captnoord: er, it has a working 3D driver set, faster GPU and an accelerometer and a higher resolution screen ;) |
| 16:06.02 | Marajin | though it is uglier than the kaiser |
| 16:06.13 | Marajin | *faster CPU |
| 16:06.24 | Marajin | er, it has a digital compass too doesn't it? |
| 16:06.33 | Marajin | pointless though that may be |
| 16:07.56 | captnoord | Marajin: I have a raph to..... so its hard for me to compare.... my last phone was a pebl :/ |
| 16:08.24 | Marajin | heh |
| 16:08.38 | Marajin | I liked my hermes more than my kaiser :( it was faster |
| 16:08.49 | orux | cr2, we are in htc-msm-2.6.25 kernel. was sd working in this kernel for raph and diamond? |
| 16:08.50 | Marajin | and it's just the dodgy driver issue that's the kaiser downfall |
| 16:09.31 | cr2 | orux: don't remember |
| 16:09.49 | captnoord | orux: I ran my android from SD |
| 16:10.04 | captnoord | but 50% of the time it doesn't boot proper |
| 16:10.08 | cr2 | orux: but you still need the right gpios |
| 16:10.37 | orux | cr2, ok, we will work on it |
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| 16:11.40 | orux | was solved raph800 display problem? |
| 16:15.04 | cr2 | orux: maejrep had some offset, but we can ask him later. |
| 16:15.37 | orux | cr2, ok |
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| 16:39.10 | Untouchab1e | Hi all |
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| 16:40.54 | captnoord | yo |
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| 16:43.03 | c4software | hi |
| 16:43.17 | Untouchab1e | hey mate |
| 16:43.22 | Untouchab1e | How are you? |
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| 16:54.31 | c4software | hey Untouchab1e |
| 16:54.32 | c4software | :) |
| 16:54.37 | c4software | Nice to see you |
| 16:55.20 | Untouchab1e | hey |
| 16:55.25 | Untouchab1e | you too, as always :) |
| 16:55.29 | c4software | ;) |
| 16:57.01 | Untouchab1e | do you have any idea why your package works on some DIAM100's, but not for all? But they can use the one i put together? :S |
| 16:57.14 | c4software | You have seen oliwan works on the power driver |
| 16:57.22 | Untouchab1e | what work? |
| 16:58.34 | c4software | i try the two builds and i had same result. |
| 16:58.41 | Untouchab1e | yeah.. its strange |
| 16:58.42 | Untouchab1e | :S |
| 16:59.16 | c4software | really strange |
| 16:59.17 | Untouchab1e | but yeah.. power driver? Tell me :D |
| 16:59.27 | c4software | mine package works on your diam ? |
| 16:59.50 | Untouchab1e | I dont have my DIAM100 here atm, only my Raph100, so coulndt test it myself |
| 17:00.06 | c4software | yep its start to find a way to get the battery icon for the moment |
| 17:00.34 | c4software | yesterday its always shown 50% |
| 17:00.37 | c4software | ^^ |
| 17:01.15 | Untouchab1e | ah, yeah.. i read about that.. we managed to get an aproximate remaning battery precentage, right? |
| 17:01.30 | zycho_ | i can try on my diam |
| 17:01.32 | zycho_ | :> |
| 17:01.49 | c4software | Right zycho_ |
| 17:01.53 | c4software | right Untouchab1e |
| 17:02.16 | Untouchab1e | Thats awesome |
| 17:02.18 | c4software | zycho_: Try this package |
| 17:02.19 | c4software | http://c4software.another-team.com/tmp.zip |
| 17:02.21 | c4software | ^^ |
| 17:02.26 | c4software | and tell me if its boot |
| 17:02.48 | Untouchab1e | Then try this one, and see if that boots.. --> http://connect-utb.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=58&task=view.download&cid=26 |
| 17:02.51 | zycho_ | no problem |
| 17:03.39 | c4software | thanks zycho_ |
| 17:03.40 | c4software | :) |
| 17:03.47 | Untouchab1e | yeah, thanks |
| 17:03.48 | c4software | you have a diam100 ? |
| 17:03.57 | zycho_ | its diam300 |
| 17:04.03 | zycho_ | german, o2 |
| 17:04.08 | Untouchab1e | ah, the Diam300.. which no one knows what is.. |
| 17:04.17 | Untouchab1e | we suspect it to be the equivalent to the Diam100 |
| 17:04.20 | zycho_ | right :> |
| 17:04.21 | Untouchab1e | but I am not sure |
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| 17:17.09 | zycho_ | http://c4software.another-team.com/tmp.zip boots up |
| 17:17.42 | c4software | Well Well. U have the device who its don't boot Untouchab1e ? |
| 17:17.59 | c4software | *the type of device |
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| 17:25.20 | zycho_ | should i test something else with this package? |
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| 17:30.52 | c4software | nop, just try the boot. |
| 17:31.13 | c4software | Thanks zycho_ :) |
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| 18:34.17 | oliwan | hi |
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| 18:49.42 | captnoord | re |
| 18:49.44 | captnoord | coffee |
| 18:49.45 | captnoord | :D |
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| 19:12.43 | lupine_85 | Do I remember dcordes_ mentioning angstrom images he'd built at some point? |
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| 19:17.37 | oliwan | lupine_85, yeah i think so |
| 19:17.57 | lupine_85 | links exist? :) |
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| 19:21.14 | oliwan | can't remember sorry, i kno some are knocking about tho. |
| 19:21.56 | oliwan | check the logs |
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| 19:24.26 | c4software | hi oliwan |
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| 19:31.41 | c4software | oliwan: You have progress with the power driver ? |
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| 19:37.57 | glyph | so I'm looking at http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser/latest_builds |
| 19:38.04 | glyph | the most recent ones all say "blurry screen" |
| 19:38.08 | glyph | what does that mean? |
| 19:38.46 | AstainHasPS3 | try it and find out |
| 19:39.05 | oliwan | hi c4, getting there. will be a bit longer |
| 19:39.52 | glyph | AstainHasPS3: I was planning to, but setting up a new build takes me an hour or so and putting multiple builds on my SD card at once causes problems |
| 19:40.10 | glyph | If "blurry screen" means "it looks terrible" I'll wait for another one :) |
| 19:41.07 | glyph | and the last build I tried made data stop working :-\ |
| 19:43.30 | cr2 | Changes in V0.52: |
| 19:43.41 | cr2 | fixed excessive memory requirement for Java tools |
| 19:43.44 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:43.45 | glyph | AstainHasPS3: still enjoying the PS3, huh? :) |
| 19:44.14 | AstainHasPS3 | yep yep I love it |
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| 19:47.51 | c4software | ha oliwan you have somme diffiulties ? |
| 19:48.33 | c4software | glyph: You have a video of the lastest build for the kaiser ? Market working oO Nice |
| 19:49.25 | oliwan | well I know what needs to be done, but i'm trying to get the printk output out of the phone to trap the data. Do you know where the output goes? |
| 19:50.06 | c4software | no sorry :S |
| 19:50.12 | c4software | the standart output ? |
| 19:50.52 | c4software | WoW developpement are really fast on the Kaiser Impressive oO |
| 19:51.10 | oliwan | this is printk not printf. is usually goes to var/log/syslog but that don't exist |
| 19:52.27 | c4software | ah ok. |
| 19:56.48 | krisje8 | c4software: I got a vid on some very interesting bug in the latest kaiser build ;) |
| 19:56.56 | krisje8 | I uploaded it to youtube, it's processing now |
| 19:57.00 | c4software | ^^ |
| 19:57.01 | c4software | Thanks |
| 19:57.02 | c4software | :p |
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| 19:57.40 | krisje8 | glyph: blurry screen meens it tries to scale the original G1's reso (bigger) to your kaisers reso. You have more screen, but it's blurry and disorted |
| 19:57.52 | krisje8 | you can change it back to how it was in the old builds in the config file |
| 19:57.59 | krisje8 | but the fonts are bigger |
| 19:58.51 | c4software | The power driver manages the standby and wakes up (and the battery level)? |
| 20:00.46 | glyph | krisje8: I had a feeling that's what it might be :) |
| 20:01.10 | glyph | krisje8: isn't the font size adjustable too? |
| 20:04.05 | krisje8 | Don't know where |
| 20:04.13 | krisje8 | Ah my video is live |
| 20:04.14 | krisje8 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke4KixN4O_0 |
| 20:05.10 | c4software | the screen is flip ? |
| 20:05.26 | krisje8 | that's a know bug |
| 20:05.37 | krisje8 | look at the sliding out of the android prperty task thing |
| 20:06.31 | infernixx | hi guys. all this android on kaiser stuff probably means that the SD driver is stable? |
| 20:06.36 | infernixx | is it PIO or DMA? |
| 20:08.06 | krisje8 | I have no idea, how do I check? It seems to be stable yes |
| 20:11.40 | infernixx | dzo will know |
| 20:13.44 | NetRipper | oliwan, dmesg |
| 20:13.54 | krisje8 | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=ca3981420df2772342bb8da26de10a6e92bd9fea looks like it's dma |
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| 20:14.11 | krisje8 | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=75fb8506138155131a503bd82192bf8443cb8449 or pio? |
| 20:14.26 | infernixx | " |
| 20:14.27 | infernixx | Enable DMA for the SD driver" |
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| 20:14.30 | infernixx | huzzah |
| 20:14.41 | infernixx | adds another project to his todo list |
| 20:15.20 | oliwan | netripper, do i hav to run that from the console? |
| 20:15.24 | NetRipper | oliwan, yes |
| 20:15.28 | NetRipper | or via ssh/telnet |
| 20:15.56 | oliwan | ok, how to ssh? - sorry for all the questions :P |
| 20:16.19 | NetRipper | connect your phone to a linux host, kernel 2.6.25 or higher |
| 20:16.24 | oliwan | yup |
| 20:16.27 | c4software | its possible to ssh the phone NetRipper ? |
| 20:16.28 | NetRipper | ifconfig usb0 up 192.168.0.200 && telnet 192.168.0.206 |
| 20:16.37 | NetRipper | when you're using the angstrom initrd, you can ssh instead of telnet |
| 20:16.43 | NetRipper | on the android initrd's, you can telnet |
| 20:17.09 | oliwan | awesome, thanks netripper |
| 20:17.11 | NetRipper | oliwan, here's an angstrom package if you dont have it yet: http://www.netripper.com/raphael/packages/raph100_20090219_angstrom_usb/ |
| 20:17.23 | oliwan | thanks, is ther one for diam? |
| 20:17.23 | NetRipper | gtg, later |
| 20:17.24 | NetRipper | :) |
| 20:17.28 | NetRipper | works for diam too |
| 20:17.36 | c4software | Thanks NetRipper |
| 20:17.37 | oliwan | thanks |
| 20:17.40 | NetRipper | just set the mtype correctly |
| 20:18.42 | oliwan | lupine_85. Theres your answer above |
| 20:19.26 | lupine_85 | so there is :) |
| 20:19.30 | lupine_85 | thanks NetRipper |
| 20:19.42 | c4software | oliwan: Tell me if its works for you |
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| 20:20.37 | c4software | Yeees its works if i set the ip manualy on the network card option |
| 20:20.47 | oliwan | u trying the angstrom c4? |
| 20:20.58 | c4software | no no the android initrd |
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| 20:21.10 | c4software | its time to try internet on android ^^ |
| 20:21.33 | c4software | looking on the Giant Xda thread... to find the command |
| 20:22.45 | krisje8 | what exact command? |
| 20:23.50 | balsat | c4software: setprop net.dns1 208.67.222.222 |
| 20:23.56 | balsat | On android |
| 20:24.03 | balsat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.05 | c4software | just that is enougth ? |
| 20:24.13 | balsat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.23 | balsat | on android yes |
| 20:24.35 | balsat | the other commands on toy linux comp |
| 20:24.53 | balsat | s/toy/your |
| 20:25.24 | c4software | balsat: i can type trougth telnet ? |
| 20:25.28 | c4software | setprop net.dns1 208.67.222.222 |
| 20:25.40 | balsat | yes |
| 20:25.53 | c4software | Thanks balsat |
| 20:26.11 | maejrep[w] | orux: I get the whole display shifted about 20 pixels or so to the left (wrapped to the right side) |
| 20:26.38 | c4software | Nice blasat its works |
| 20:26.59 | oliwan | c4software, where did you set the ip address? |
| 20:27.29 | maejrep[w] | [10:55:30] <Marajin> but I thought that the kaiser android dist was meant to go into full sleep <-- I think one of the recent changesets to htc-vogue branch specifically mentioned that it breaks pm |
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| 20:27.41 | c4software | on ubuntu : with the connection parameters gui |
| 20:28.14 | c4software | with the terminal it doesn't work |
| 20:28.37 | oliwan | ok, so ip of pc is .200 |
| 20:28.50 | c4software | yep |
| 20:29.01 | c4software | and mask is 255.255.0.0 |
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| 20:29.26 | oliwan | c4software, i'm connected |
| 20:29.47 | c4software | :) |
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| 20:31.33 | c4software | Nice mail fetching works |
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| 20:31.34 | c4software | ^^ |
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| 20:37.42 | dcordes_ | hai |
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| 20:43.29 | lupine_85 | c4software: surely the netmask is 255.255.255.0 ? |
| 20:43.58 | c4software | on the init.rc on the phone the mask is set to 255.255.0.0 |
| 20:44.06 | lupine_85 | :S |
| 20:45.49 | lupine_85 | taking a /24 for a p2p link is bad enough, never mind a /16. especially when 192.168/16 is commonly used for routers and the like |
| 20:46.13 | lupine_85 | wonders if it'd kill his other networks |
| 20:46.29 | AstainHasPS3 | anyone know what the settings for att should be in kaiser ppp settings? |
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| 20:46.54 | PetoKraus | heya guys! |
| 20:47.15 | PetoKraus | i'd like to get a linux running phone, though I don't have £300 for Android / Freerunner |
| 20:47.21 | PetoKraus | *HTC Dream |
| 20:48.03 | PetoKraus | so, I thought I might just drop in and ask you which ones should I be looking at. I'm reading trough the handhelds.org page; Magician and BlueAngel seem to be pretty well developed. |
| 20:48.03 | dcordes_ | get an old kaiser |
| 20:48.58 | PetoKraus | hmm, that looks nice |
| 20:49.39 | c4software | kaiser seems very good for Linux. what is the reason ? |
| 20:50.50 | PetoKraus | hm, cheapest one at 120 |
| 20:52.42 | PetoKraus | hmm, what's the difference between TYTN 1 and TYTN 2 |
| 20:52.58 | AstainHasPS3 | lots |
| 20:53.14 | PetoKraus | i don't mean performance-wise... i see both have a wifi |
| 20:53.23 | AstainHasPS3 | different chipset completely |
| 20:53.46 | PetoKraus | so the support is considerably better for 2, right? |
| 20:54.37 | AstainHasPS3 | yes |
| 20:55.27 | PetoKraus | right |
| 20:55.37 | PetoKraus | does WPA work on TyTN 2? :D |
| 20:55.45 | PetoKraus | (now i'm just being a dick) |
| 20:55.58 | PetoKraus | if there's some list of compatibility, point me there |
| 20:56.07 | captnoord | wiki |
| 20:56.26 | cr2 | wifi does not work at all |
| 20:57.10 | PetoKraus | k |
| 20:57.17 | cr2 | on kaiser |
| 20:57.31 | PetoKraus | :D |
| 20:57.41 | cr2 | on blueangel it work, but has many issues |
| 20:58.30 | cr2 | but imho the chances of making wifi work on kaiser are very good |
| 20:58.50 | PetoKraus | right |
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| 21:07.25 | lupine_85 | aww, it's still so awesome having the keyboard working :D |
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| 21:23.28 | dcordes_ | lupine_85: how's it going? keyboard on raphael? |
| 21:23.43 | lupine_85 | not bad, and yeah :) |
| 21:23.49 | lupine_85 | just trying out .27 for the first time |
| 21:24.01 | lupine_85 | kicks android in the face |
| 21:25.07 | AstainHasPS3 | odd booted into android 3rd time on kaiser after fixing data settigns and now hvga scaling is gone and screen rotates wrong way |
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| 21:26.12 | lupine_85 | nice that it lets you has different partitions than the first these days, anyways |
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| 21:29.36 | dcordes_ | MaRciN_PL: hi, are you one of the marcins already known in this channel |
| 21:30.00 | MaRciN_PL | no, i'm not :) |
| 21:30.59 | dcordes_ | lupine_85: good to hear. it would be nice if you could share your observations with mickey|bbl about the non-android on raphael. he's a userspace developer at om and would like to improve support for the raph/other msm devices in openembedded :) |
| 21:31.54 | dcordes_ | MaRciN_PL: ok. marcin seems to be a very common name in poland |
| 21:39.08 | cr2 | dcordes_: what is the devmem2 syntax ? is it available in your android initrd ? |
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| 21:46.52 | lupine_85 | dcordes_: sure thing |
| 21:47.22 | lupine_85 | mickey|bbl: do you mostly work with OPIE/GPE/englightenment? |
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| 21:48.10 | lupine_85 | haha, wow. WM6 *does* recognise multiple partitions |
| 21:48.20 | lupine_85 | it just fails miserably if the partition type is incorrect |
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| 21:52.38 | mickey|bbl | lupine_85: Opie and GPE are more or less dead |
| 21:52.58 | mickey|bbl | lupine_85: I have been working on solid middleware since end of 2007 |
| 21:53.01 | mickey|bbl | freesmartphone.org project |
| 21:53.26 | mickey|bbl | the Enlightenment guys work on UI |
| 21:53.36 | lupine_85 | fair enough |
| 21:53.37 | mickey|bbl | and other groups |
| 21:53.50 | AstainHasPS3 | wow nice mickey|bbl I love e17 |
| 21:53.52 | mickey|bbl | anyways, we (freesmartphone.org) have a nice demo UI |
| 21:53.57 | mickey|bbl | using EFL |
| 21:54.01 | mickey|bbl | which demos the middleware |
| 21:54.07 | mickey|bbl | simple phone client, sms, contacts |
| 21:54.08 | lupine_85 | I did my own enlightenment build on top of angstrom and it was pretty, it just lacked any phone functionality |
| 21:54.10 | mickey|bbl | gps |
| 21:54.24 | mickey|bbl | yeah, that's where FSO comes in handy |
| 21:54.30 | cr2 | mickey|bbl: i have some problems with gps on raph |
| 21:54.55 | lupine_85 | played a tiny bit with fso, but had no joy at all with it. probably due to not understanding it ;) |
| 21:55.03 | mickey|bbl | heh, well |
| 21:55.14 | mickey|bbl | wrapping the head around the dbus async API takes a while |
| 21:55.18 | mickey|bbl | but then it flies ;) |
| 21:55.28 | mickey|bbl | good thing is you can call it from _any_ language |
| 21:55.30 | mickey|bbl | cr2: how so? |
| 21:55.31 | lupine_85 | kind of misses dcop |
| 21:56.06 | cr2 | it does not boot with gps enabled |
| 21:56.24 | cr2 | and if i do at@startgps it crashes in ~5sec |
| 21:56.34 | cr2 | looks like some watchdog to me |
| 21:56.44 | mickey|bbl | that doesn't sound too good |
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| 21:57.41 | mickey|bbl | dcordes_: can you push your kernel changes to OE? |
| 21:57.57 | mickey|bbl | dcordes_: your precompiled kernel boots nicely in your initrd, but not in my sd-rootfs |
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| 21:58.40 | mickey|bbl | anyways, i want to pick up some loose ends on openezx before i can dive more into the HTC stuff |
| 21:58.54 | mickey|bbl | i still owe a release |
| 21:59.53 | cr2 | mickey|bbl: does gps work on a780 ? |
| 22:00.26 | mickey|bbl | i did not see it personally, but yes |
| 22:00.34 | mickey|bbl | kernel guys say it works |
| 22:00.49 | mickey|bbl | need to pick up the strings via AT though |
| 22:00.50 | mickey|bbl | *sigh* |
| 22:01.07 | mickey|bbl | so much for the application processor being in control ;) |
| 22:02.20 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 22:02.32 | cr2 | it seems i need to try openezx again. |
| 22:02.51 | cr2 | my qtopia2 does not want to work with gps anymore. |
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| 22:04.49 | mickey|bbl | i think this year we will reach a breaktrough with free software both in ezx and htc. it looks like after all these years we're finally 'nearly there' now |
| 22:05.14 | lupine_85 | this is the year of linux on the desktop, too, you know ;) |
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| 22:05.35 | lupine_85 | (actually, I was in PC World a couple of days ago and came across a netbook running linux, for sale to the general public. woot) |
| 22:07.24 | cr2 | mickey|bbl: not too bad with the manpower we have ;) |
| 22:07.24 | mickey|bbl | lupine_85: ah well, i don't believe that one ;) |
| 22:07.33 | mickey|bbl | yep |
| 22:07.41 | mickey|bbl | i've been around here since 2002 |
| 22:07.44 | mickey|bbl | seen all the ipaq ports |
| 22:07.50 | mickey|bbl | which did not succeed |
| 22:07.54 | mickey|bbl | (more or less) |
| 22:07.55 | mickey|bbl | pity |
| 22:08.03 | mickey|bbl | then openezx |
| 22:08.04 | cr2 | were too slow to the market |
| 22:08.15 | mickey|bbl | but that one stalled as well for many years and only recently picked up steam |
| 22:08.22 | cr2 | openezx was too limited in scope |
| 22:08.40 | mickey|bbl | and now i think with openmoko and the htc devices we will finally get to something |
| 22:09.04 | cr2 | yes. htc is really the pc of the smartphone |
| 22:09.05 | mickey|bbl | (something != android, if I may) |
| 22:09.11 | lupine_85 | well, quite :D |
| 22:09.21 | lupine_85 | rather dislikes android just on principle |
| 22:09.31 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:09.58 | mickey|bbl | this year i'm going to evangelize the FSO stuff a bit more. my goal is to have 3 different -- more or less equally -- supported devices by the end of this year |
| 22:09.59 | cr2 | i prefer to dislike on the technical merit |
| 22:10.00 | lupine_85 | too much java :p |
| 22:10.06 | mickey|bbl | s/devices/device families/ |
| 22:10.30 | lupine_85 | mickey|bbl: make sure raph100 is in there ;) |
| 22:10.43 | mickey|bbl | well, i got this one |
| 22:10.44 | cr2 | lupine_85: he _has_ raph100 :) |
| 22:10.53 | lupine_85 | woo :) |
| 22:10.57 | mickey|bbl | so if our cool kernel devs do their share |
| 22:10.58 | mickey|bbl | i'll do mine ;) |
| 22:11.08 | lupine_85 | looks like I chose the right one to get, anyway ;) |
| 22:11.17 | lupine_85 | (almost went for an x1) |
| 22:11.54 | lupine_85 | the current kernely stuff is a bit out of my depth (100 fathoms or so), but I'm happy to help out with anything I can |
| 22:12.47 | descention | i think i might look into why the light on my keypad stays on even when my kaiser sleeps |
| 22:13.01 | lupine_85 | has been trying to convince his bosses to get themselves raph100s as they're both uberhackers |
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| 22:19.05 | dcordes_ | cr2: what is devmem? I don't really know what's in any android builds because I never built one. |
| 22:19.11 | dcordes_ | mickey|bbl: can do |
| 22:19.30 | cr2 | dcordes_: read/write to /dev/mem |
| 22:19.58 | dcordes_ | mickey|bbl: I did not touch sd/mmc. only disabled the on screen keyboard config and enabled the framebuffer refresh thread |
| 22:20.10 | dcordes_ | in the long run we need that msm driver for Xfbdev .. |
| 22:20.34 | cr2 | dcordes_: there should be a better solution |
| 22:21.03 | cr2 | than a refresh thread |
| 22:21.12 | mickey|bbl | dcordes_: hmm, strange, I got a kernel panic with your latest |
| 22:21.21 | mickey|bbl | dcordes_: well, just push the stuff and I'll have a look again |
| 22:22.11 | lupine_85 | presumably the X11 driver would be similar in structure to the xf86-video-omapfb one? |
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| 22:23.36 | dcordes_ | mickey|bbl: ok |
| 22:24.05 | lupine_85 | oooh, wow. bitbake lets me run two tasks in parallel |
| 22:24.11 | lupine_85 | isn't sure if this is wise, but will stick with it |
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| 22:25.39 | dcordes_ | cr2: I think that worked in the old kaiser kernel when we tried sd card |
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| 22:27.53 | dcordes_ | cr2: what sort of solution would that be, other than implementing the ioctl things or whatever in a Xfbdev driver? |
| 22:28.39 | cr2 | dcordes_: reconfiguring hardware |
| 22:28.54 | cr2 | i can't believe that there is no hardware refresh |
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| 22:36.51 | Marajin | today was a sucky day |
| 22:39.13 | AstainHasPS3 | why Marajin |
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| 22:44.08 | Bushman | halp! |
| 22:44.17 | Bushman | i can't format my BA |
| 22:44.24 | Bushman | google didn't helped |
| 22:44.35 | Bushman | wierd thing just happened |
| 22:45.28 | Bushman | i can't use some keys in my BA, in windows i can't use 'left', 'ok/close' and 'power' |
| 22:45.36 | Bushman | but both side keys work fine |
| 22:45.48 | lupine_85 | prods the X video driver stuff |
| 22:46.17 | Bushman | when i try to format the phone i can't alter the boot menu options nor boot with 'envelope' button :( |
| 22:46.38 | Bushman | what's happening? |
| 22:51.17 | lupine_85 | humm, looks vaguely doable |
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| 22:53.06 | Bushman | ? |
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| 23:01.36 | Bushman | :( |
| 23:01.47 | Bushman | damn... my phone got useles again |
| 23:01.51 | Bushman | CRAP! |
| 23:01.56 | Bushman | is pissed off |
| 23:02.05 | captnoord | ? |
| 23:02.57 | Bushman | i can't format my BA |
| 23:02.58 | cr2 | Bushman: what do you mean by "formatting" ? |
| 23:03.11 | Bushman | factory state? |
| 23:03.29 | Bushman | clear storage and registry |
| 23:03.37 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 23:03.56 | cr2 | must be in the xda-dev wiki. certainly not a linux question |
| 23:04.10 | Bushman | i know "how" |
| 23:04.24 | Bushman | i just don't know why it's broken ;(... |
| 23:04.31 | cr2 | reflash |
| 23:05.03 | Bushman | how?\ |
| 23:05.18 | Bushman | got any tutour? |
| 23:05.25 | cr2 | switch to spl |
| 23:05.49 | Bushman | spl? |
| 23:05.55 | cr2 | it's a standard procedure, you need an usb cable |
| 23:06.19 | Bushman | i do have it |
| 23:06.30 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_BootloaderMode |
| 23:06.33 | Bushman | and i can enter this mode |
| 23:06.47 | Bushman | it correctly detects USB connection |
| 23:07.17 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel |
| 23:07.46 | cr2 | Problems |
| 23:07.54 | cr2 | Upgrading: |
| 23:20.33 | Bushman | is there any linux solution? |
| 23:21.29 | dcordes_ | Marajin: what happened? |
| 23:22.41 | dcordes_ | cr2: how can we investigate? tmzt looked in the android library pixel/surface flinger. there are some ioctls. don |
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| 23:23.42 | dcordes_ | tmzt: do the android graphic libs call a hardware refresh? |
| 23:24.01 | dcordes_ | hi Venny |
| 23:24.19 | Venny | Hey dcordes_ |
| 23:26.26 | maejrep[w] | [15:46:13] * lupine_85 wonders if it'd kill his other networks <-- it does.. I use an iface config that automatically sets a static route to the phone's IP. otherwise, my default route goes to the router, because my internal network is 192.168.0.0/24 also |
| 23:28.16 | lupine_85 | really, it should use 169.254/16 if it wants a /1 |
| 23:28.20 | lupine_85 | /16 |
| 23:31.33 | maejrep[w] | yeah, I think that would be better, because rndis already uses that (should actually be 169.254.2.0/24, or hell you could get away with 169.254.2.0/30 |
| 23:32.01 | maejrep[w] | I mentioned that to NetRipper and he agreed, but no one found it pressing enough to bother re-packing the current angstrom build |
| 23:32.06 | maejrep[w] | (myself included) |
| 23:32.31 | lupine_85 | well, current angstrom only takes a /24 - that's alright |
| 23:32.39 | Bushman | cr2: is there any linux solution for flashing it? |
| 23:33.03 | lupine_85 | (even if it happens to take a /24 that's commonly used by routers) |
| 23:33.13 | maejrep[w] | lupine_85: except for me :P |
| 23:33.28 | lupine_85 | ideally, it'd check for a DHCP lease then fallback to static otherwise ;) |
| 23:33.33 | maejrep[w] | Bushman: there would be, if someone wrote a tool for it |
| 23:33.40 | maejrep[w] | I think HTCFlasher can do it actually |
| 23:33.48 | maejrep[w] | which is linux/gtk |
| 23:33.52 | lupine_85 | maejrep[w]: mm, it's a pain to pick one that'll work for everyone |
| 23:33.54 | maejrep[w] | but might use wine for some functionality |
| 23:34.03 | maejrep[w] | lupine_85: sure, but 169.254 is pretty painless |
| 23:34.09 | lupine_85 | aye |
| 23:34.17 | maejrep[w] | and it's only used for ptp |
| 23:34.23 | lupine_85 | it's a good'un, unless you have two autoconf devices |
| 23:34.24 | maejrep[w] | so really no harm in it |
| 23:34.52 | maejrep[w] | even then, it's easy to pick something non-standard |
| 23:35.09 | maejrep[w] | I think even ms's auto-configure is limited to a sub-range of 169.254/16 |
| 23:35.23 | lupine_85 | zeroconf, rather |
| 23:35.28 | lupine_85 | mmhm, works for me |
| 23:35.41 | maejrep[w] | and pretty sure rndis is limited to 169.254.2.0/30 |
| 23:35.47 | cr2 | Bushman: there was an attempt to do flashing, but it was not finished |
| 23:35.56 | maejrep[w] | cr2: htcflasher doesn't do it? |
| 23:36.03 | maejrep[w] | that was supposed to be the whole purpose of it :p |
| 23:36.16 | maejrep[w] | http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/ |
| 23:36.24 | lupine_85 | maejrep[w]: you've been working on the panel ?and framebuffer? recently? |
| 23:36.36 | maejrep[w] | panel for raph800 only |
| 23:36.56 | lupine_85 | is that the platform driver? |
| 23:36.59 | cr2 | htcflasher will not work on BA. the spl interface is a bit different. pH5 was writing htc-tools, but afaik it's unfinished |
| 23:37.02 | maejrep[w] | hrm? |
| 23:37.08 | maejrep[w] | ah |
| 23:37.22 | maejrep[w] | lupine_85: platform driver? it's an init table inside board-raph-panel.c |
| 23:37.42 | maejrep[w] | probably should be split into a controller driver and a panel driver |
| 23:37.44 | maejrep[w] | but meh |
| 23:37.58 | lupine_85 | heh, that's what I was wondering ;) |
| 23:38.21 | lupine_85 | I'm peeking at the omapfb and xf86-video-omapfb stuff |
| 23:39.50 | cr2 | maejrep[w]: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=ph5/htc-tools.git;a=summary |
| 23:40.03 | lupine_85 | trying to see if I can work out what would need to be done |
| 23:40.44 | cr2 | maejrep[w]: the luminosity ADC driver does not exist yet ? |
| 23:41.11 | Bushman | :O |
| 23:41.26 | Bushman | my other BA won't go standby too |
| 23:41.29 | Bushman | WTF?! |
| 23:41.39 | Bushman | what's going on in here?! |
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| 23:42.09 | maejrep[w] | Bushman: it's a bad week, seems :( |
| 23:43.55 | Bushman | don't piss me off, i probably broke my car today (will find out in the morning if the radiator fluid will drain out) |
| 23:44.08 | Bushman | my BA gon mad |
| 23:44.37 | Bushman | and on to of it, the other BA (i was planing to swich to it) gone mad too! |
| 23:50.25 | Bushman | no... it's a joke... 2 identical HTCs with diferent windows version and same problem at the same time for the same person |
| 23:54.59 | cr2 | maejrep[w]: i'll be waiting for your patch :) |
| 23:55.42 | cr2 | maejrep[w]: i'm thinking about rpc now. gps must work, otherwise this device is useless for me ;) |
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