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| 00:04.31 | j0b0 | evening |
| 00:05.01 | j0b0 | i have the gsensor working, kind of |
| 00:06.13 | j0b0 | that is, i have the kernel dumping x,y,z values to the console but i dont know what to do with it. should i make an input device with EV_ABS,ABS_X/Y/Z ? |
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| 00:17.21 | dcordes_ | j0b0: hi. you can use it to flip screen |
| 00:17.40 | NetRipper | j0b0, emm, i think that'll cause a lot of trouble for android if you do that |
| 00:17.41 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:18.36 | NetRipper | although it may be the correct way :P |
| 00:19.03 | dcordes_ | j0b0: /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
| 00:19.04 | NetRipper | j0b0, we should check how the G1 handles the compass data |
| 00:19.17 | dcordes_ | j0b0: write 3 to if you rotate to landscape :D |
| 00:20.08 | NetRipper | i have that on my todo as well, but on the event of keyboard slideout |
| 00:20.37 | dcordes_ | in androed? |
| 00:20.41 | j0b0 | the keyboard slider is now in the microp-keypad driver |
| 00:21.14 | NetRipper | dcordes_, in android the screen already turns landscape when keyboard is out, but doing it via gsensor may be a nice addition (although i personally dislike it :P) |
| 00:21.38 | NetRipper | i already hate it that opera goes to landscape automatically... as it makes it annoying to read while im in bed |
| 00:21.41 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 00:21.48 | j0b0 | maybe its a joystick |
| 00:21.52 | NetRipper | couldnt find how to turn it off |
| 00:22.14 | NetRipper | j0b0, yes it's the clamshell irq stuff, right? |
| 00:22.36 | j0b0 | NetRipper yes. thats it |
| 00:22.51 | NetRipper | though i dont know what clamshell means |
| 00:22.52 | NetRipper | :P |
| 00:22.52 | j0b0 | altho clamshell is a bit of a bad name for it |
| 00:24.20 | j0b0 | there is a checkbox somewhere in android settings to rotate orientation only on keyboard slider or also on gsensor |
| 00:24.31 | j0b0 | so it must listen to some event for that |
| 00:24.38 | NetRipper | indeed |
| 00:24.58 | j0b0 | im gonna dive into that tomorrow .. for now im gonna dive into bed |
| 00:25.06 | NetRipper | yea good idea |
| 00:25.08 | NetRipper | good night |
| 00:25.09 | NetRipper | :) |
| 00:25.09 | j0b0 | good night |
| 00:26.10 | dcordes_ | gnight |
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| 07:13.49 | Jos | wants Android on his HTC Touch HD :p |
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| 07:36.18 | captnoord | goood moring |
| 07:36.33 | captnoord | -o + n |
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| 07:39.55 | Timbo_ | http://i44.tinypic.com/34rac.png |
| 07:39.59 | Timbo_ | wrong window |
| 07:40.01 | Timbo_ | lol sorry |
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| 08:35.15 | Untouchab1e | Good morning |
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| 08:36.34 | balsat | Morning |
| 08:37.19 | Untouchab1e | how's it going? |
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| 08:45.35 | Untouchab1e | Has there been any major breakthroughs on the Diamond\Raph-port recently? |
| 08:45.51 | balsat | God, you? |
| 08:45.53 | Untouchab1e | Been on a manouver, so havent been able to follow |
| 08:46.41 | balsat | The touch screen is working on the .27 kernel when android recive a call |
| 08:46.54 | balsat | wird |
| 08:47.04 | Untouchab1e | cool |
| 08:47.09 | Untouchab1e | wird*? |
| 08:47.18 | balsat | underligt |
| 08:47.28 | Untouchab1e | ah, weird* |
| 08:47.41 | Untouchab1e | so the Touch Screen isnt working when Android doesnt recieve a call then? |
| 08:48.02 | balsat | yep... English and i, isent best friends |
| 08:48.23 | balsat | Nope |
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| 08:59.28 | dcordes-x1 | hi |
| 08:59.34 | dcordes-x1 | tmzt ping |
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| 10:52.53 | dcordes-x1 | mickeyl hi |
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| 10:55.14 | mickeyl | hi dcordes-x1. in with the xperia? |
| 10:57.38 | dcordes-x1 | yes. wince though |
| 10:58.19 | mickeyl | buuh ;) |
| 10:58.54 | dcordes-x1 | so you obtained a raphael? |
| 10:59.13 | mickeyl | not yet, no |
| 10:59.24 | mickeyl | but it's pretty likely it's going to be that one |
| 11:02.29 | dcordes-x1 | maejrep ever tried making a call |
| 11:03.01 | dcordes-x1 | maejrep with raph in linux? |
| 11:04.11 | dcordes-x1 | I know you can dial. I'm wondering about audio routing |
| 11:07.10 | mickeyl | do we have support for ASoC? |
| 11:07.29 | mickeyl | or is the BP handling this on its own? |
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| 11:22.09 | captnoord | I wonder |
| 11:22.23 | captnoord | that the touchscreen problem is due to the i2c bus hanging |
| 11:22.27 | captnoord | if* |
| 11:22.35 | captnoord | as its one of the fixes in the android branch |
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| 11:35.14 | dcordes-x1 | mickeyl it only needs to be set up. the support is provided by arm9 |
| 11:35.21 | mickeyl | good |
| 11:35.33 | mickeyl | will i be able to get quickly up to speed once i have the device? |
| 11:35.40 | mickeyl | like... putting stuff on a SD and then booting? |
| 11:35.45 | mickeyl | or is it more complex preparations? |
| 11:35.49 | dcordes-x1 | yea |
| 11:36.34 | mickeyl | that sounds good |
| 11:36.49 | dcordes-x1 | you only need to put a kernel config for X use |
| 11:37.30 | dcordes-x1 | you can use loopfiles or normal partitions on your sd |
| 11:37.45 | mickeyl | ok, *ordered* |
| 11:38.48 | mickeyl | i don't have much time, but i'll try to improve the fso experience on these devices, when kernel is ok so far |
| 11:38.56 | mickeyl | just remember i'm a userland guy and like to keep it that way ;) |
| 11:41.39 | dcordes-x1 | ok nice. no problem. I can be your kernel buddy |
| 11:41.50 | Marajin_ | yo |
| 11:41.52 | Marajin_ | hey dcordes-x1 |
| 11:42.09 | dcordes-x1 | heya. long time no see |
| 11:42.13 | Marajin_ | yep |
| 11:42.16 | Marajin_ | how ya doing? |
| 11:42.26 | dcordes-x1 | how ya been#? |
| 11:42.34 | dcordes-x1 | I'm ok |
| 11:42.34 | Marajin_ | ah ya know |
| 11:42.35 | Marajin_ | alive |
| 11:43.35 | dcordes-x1 | ok any local school stabbings lately? |
| 11:44.54 | Marajin_ | heh |
| 11:44.55 | Marajin_ | no |
| 11:45.00 | Marajin_ | not since that model got stabbed |
| 11:45.28 | dcordes-x1 | mickeyl we need to put device specific msm support for odeviced to allow audio setting and so |
| 11:45.54 | Marajin_ | any kaiser progress lately? |
| 11:46.04 | mickeyl | yes |
| 11:46.12 | mickeyl | (odeviced) |
| 11:47.25 | dcordes-x1 | I don't know exactly how wince and android write proc comms. we need to put such code |
| 11:48.54 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ yea dzo turned it into a useable phone |
| 11:49.52 | Marajin_ | in android? |
| 11:50.54 | dcordes-x1 | I don't know if there were any userspace tweeks spec. to the kais yet |
| 11:50.56 | Marajin_ | what did he do? |
| 11:52.41 | dcordes-x1 | power management including charging and power collapse, working ts, audio, leds |
| 11:53.07 | Marajin_ | still the SD bug though huh? |
| 11:53.23 | dcordes-x1 | oh of course.. sd works perfectly |
| 11:53.54 | dcordes-x1 | now he's messing with wifi |
| 11:53.58 | Marajin_ | dude, that's not your german humour is it? O.o |
| 11:54.37 | dcordes-x1 | dzo did you see the DJWillis insight on his work with ti1251 in openpandora? |
| 11:55.20 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: seriously, SD works fine now? |
| 11:55.44 | dcordes-x1 | yes it was one of the first things he did |
| 11:55.58 | Marajin_ | man I need to buy dzo a drink |
| 11:56.48 | Marajin_ | dzo: if you're ever in england, pub night is on me |
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| 11:58.04 | dcordes-x1 | checks out openpandora wifi git |
| 11:59.22 | Marajin_ | how's the Raph progressing btw? |
| 11:59.51 | captnoord | touchscreen problem in android, for the rest..... good I guess |
| 12:00.15 | Marajin_ | wow, christmas has come early :P |
| 12:00.31 | captnoord | but when you make a call |
| 12:00.37 | captnoord | the touchscreen comes to life |
| 12:00.40 | captnoord | and it works like it should |
| 12:00.41 | captnoord | :S |
| 12:00.59 | captnoord | and i'm almost sure its related to the message stuff |
| 12:00.59 | captnoord | but |
| 12:01.02 | captnoord | I know shit |
| 12:01.21 | DJWillis | dcordes-x1: still not pushed the wireless extentions stuff to the OP git yet (as it is not working) ;-). |
| 12:06.07 | dcordes-x1 | DJWillis but the firmware loader is there?? |
| 12:06.25 | DJWillis | dcordes-x1: of course. |
| 12:06.35 | DJWillis | both are but you want wlan_cu ;-) |
| 12:06.38 | dcordes-x1 | ok |
| 12:07.08 | DJWillis | Pandora branch is our working one, master is a sync from Android. |
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| 12:15.28 | captnoord | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3192885&highlight=touch+screen#post3192885 |
| 12:15.29 | captnoord | BINGO |
| 12:15.48 | captnoord | should have used search way earlier |
| 12:15.48 | captnoord | damn |
| 12:18.09 | captnoord | NetRipper: /me points up |
| 12:18.15 | captnoord | check that post |
| 12:30.26 | captnoord | [quote] Attached fixes a problem with the touchscreen where the ts would act as if you touched the bottom of the screen. As previously mentioned by Dzo, he has fixed the cursor keys and has mapped the keys to reflect close to original functions. That explains the changes to key functions some people are noticing. Those of you experiencing touch screen problems, if you still have them with this zImage say so... [/quo |
| 12:30.36 | captnoord | and thats what we have |
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| 12:48.51 | dcordes-x1 | http://git.openpandora.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=pandora-wifi.git;a=shortlog;h=pandora |
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| 12:59.25 | fon1 | I have an HTC Universal. Can I put linux on a spare SD card and boot up? |
| 13:00.34 | dcordes-x1 | fon1 yes. handhelds.org wiki has instructions |
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| 13:27.46 | dcordes-x1 | fon1 did you find it? |
| 13:29.45 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: Where's all the kaiser stuffs kept nowadays btw? |
| 13:30.44 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ in the htc-vogue branch |
| 13:35.37 | fon1 | dcordes: I looked before, didn't see it |
| 13:35.59 | fon1 | Lots about HP iPaq but not much HTC |
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| 13:38.15 | fon1 | dcordes: which wiki page? which distribution, or build myself? |
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| 13:39.07 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: nah I mean, distributions, prebuilt binaries, anything like that? |
| 13:39.49 | dcordes-x1 | dzo website |
| 13:40.16 | dcordes-x1 | but only android there. for angstrom I have some builds on ltg |
| 13:42.04 | Marajin_ | no worries, I'll try android first |
| 13:42.08 | dcordes-x1 | fon1 http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Universal |
| 13:44.27 | dcordes-x1 | fon1 information there might be outdated and refer to outdated kernel versions |
| 13:45.05 | uhu01_home | hi, I'm pretty new to this, and trying to find out how much of my phone is supported, I looked at the link in the room topic but I couldn't find my phone. I have a HTC Touch (from T-Mobile Austria). The only ones I could find where the HTC Vogue and the HTC Elf, which sound look pretty much like my phone, except the 2 call buttons...For which one do I have to look? |
| 13:47.20 | dcordes-x1 | uhu01_home hi. http://wiki.xda-developers.com has info on vendor variations. all htcs have one unique codename |
| 13:49.41 | dcordes-x1 | since you are in austria I wanna assume you have no vogue because it's a cdma device |
| 13:50.59 | uhu01_home | dcordes-x1: thanks for the link, I bought it at t-mobile austria, they called it MDA Touch, so I would say It's a Elf |
| 13:52.23 | uhu01_home | If I had looked better, I would have found it earlier, under the battery, they printed a tiny ELF0300 in the corner... |
| 13:56.39 | captnoord | lol |
| 13:57.09 | captnoord | question |
| 13:57.13 | captnoord | the CONFIG_RTC_DRV_MSM7X01A was the G1 |
| 13:57.14 | captnoord | ? |
| 13:58.03 | fon1 | dcordes: thanks, I'd tried that link but hadn't read all the tabs :) |
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| 14:04.01 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: hmm that zImage still has the SD bug |
| 14:04.21 | Marajin_ | or... weird |
| 14:04.29 | Marajin_ | I'm getting IO errors and timeouts and then it carries on booting anyway |
| 14:06.33 | dcordes-x1 | I either never noticed or got those |
| 14:07.22 | Marajin_ | hmm the settings applet won't open but other stuff works |
| 14:07.24 | dcordes-x1 | uhu01_home ok. does it have omap850 ? |
| 14:07.33 | Marajin_ | suspend works, it gets a phone signal too |
| 14:07.36 | Marajin_ | **tests the dialing** |
| 14:08.05 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ last android I booted on kais was the 0.8 ramdisk can't help there |
| 14:08.42 | Marajin_ | heh, no worries, 1.0 does seem to work though |
| 14:08.48 | Marajin_ | I can dial out with sound so that's promising |
| 14:09.00 | dcordes-x1 | nice |
| 14:09.35 | Marajin_ | I got phone signal, battery meter, suspend/resume, sound, outgoing dialing thusfar |
| 14:09.39 | dcordes-x1 | tmzt ping |
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| 14:10.00 | captnoord | almost sounds like a phone:P |
| 14:10.36 | dcordes-x1 | captnoord didn't understand your question |
| 14:11.08 | Marajin_ | incoming dialing works |
| 14:11.24 | Marajin_ | what the shit does a single red LED mean when it's 'suspended' ? |
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| 14:12.03 | Marajin_ | oh actually looks like the RTC must have been right too, it got the right time on the clock |
| 14:12.26 | Marajin_ | alarms work |
| 14:12.31 | Marajin_ | sweet.. this is really promising |
| 14:12.44 | Marajin_ | I just wish the damned settings app worked :P |
| 14:13.26 | Marajin_ | hmm, errors look like ClassNotFoundExceptions |
| 14:13.43 | Marajin_ | com.android.settings.* appears to be missing |
| 14:15.31 | Marajin_ | aww, camera don't work :P |
| 14:17.22 | uhu01_home | dcordes-x1: yes, have an OMAP850 |
| 14:18.43 | dcordes-x1 | uhu01_home don't know about kernel for omap850 other than linwizard one |
| 14:19.56 | captnoord | dcordes-x1captnoord didn't understand your question |
| 14:20.03 | captnoord | MSM7X01A |
| 14:20.05 | uhu01_home | dcordes-x1: thanks for the information...I'll have a look |
| 14:20.10 | dcordes-x1 | uhu01_home maybe search the xda-forum (maybe elf one) for elf linux |
| 14:20.19 | captnoord | is that the type of cpu on the G1? |
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| 14:20.39 | dcordes-x1 | uhu01_home or ask #linwizard |
| 14:20.54 | dcordes-x1 | captnoord yes |
| 14:21.01 | captnoord | as I am checking the diff from the .25 and .27 brach with kompare |
| 14:21.03 | captnoord | aahh |
| 14:21.03 | dcordes-x1 | 7201A |
| 14:21.14 | captnoord | because for the raphael we are compiling the binairy for that cpu |
| 14:21.28 | captnoord | and i don't know if that is correct |
| 14:21.38 | dcordes-x1 | no worries |
| 14:21.57 | captnoord | its not that |
| 14:22.05 | captnoord | I want to catch the touchscreen bug |
| 14:22.09 | dcordes-x1 | the two devices are very similar |
| 14:22.14 | captnoord | as its in the diff |
| 14:22.17 | captnoord | I know |
| 14:22.20 | captnoord | I don't worry |
| 14:22.24 | captnoord | its the bug I am after |
| 14:22.39 | captnoord | and a similar bug excisted on the keizer |
| 14:23.09 | dcordes-x1 | earlier 2.6.27 revisions had ts working? what's wrong about the ts exactly? |
| 14:23.21 | captnoord | its working..... |
| 14:23.26 | captnoord | but on android it doesn't |
| 14:23.26 | dcordes-x1 | ....... |
| 14:23.33 | captnoord | but |
| 14:23.40 | captnoord | if you receive a call |
| 14:23.48 | captnoord | it magicly turns on |
| 14:23.52 | captnoord | and works like it should |
| 14:24.46 | dcordes-x1 | earlier 2.6.27 revisions had ts working? |
| 14:25.07 | captnoord | nope |
| 14:25.12 | captnoord | yea |
| 14:25.18 | captnoord | but not + android |
| 14:25.26 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: heh, fsck is doing its nut now |
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| 14:34.33 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: /definitely/ still got dma errors mate. |
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| 14:40.32 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ dzo mentioned something about plans to edit ril for gsm use |
| 14:42.04 | Marajin_ | what's that got to do with dma errors? |
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| 14:42.27 | vmlinuz | hello |
| 14:42.31 | vmlinuz | i need help |
| 14:43.03 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ sorry read cdma there |
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| 14:43.28 | Marajin_ | maybe I just need a clean copy .. I'ma try again |
| 14:43.32 | dcordes-x1 | vmlinuz what do you need help with? |
| 14:43.49 | vml | i cant install linux on my htc |
| 14:44.16 | dcordes-x1 | which htc is that? |
| 14:44.28 | vml | universal |
| 14:44.30 | vml | i install opie |
| 14:44.34 | vml | and boot |
| 14:44.59 | vml | and the linux is loading and stoping there |
| 14:45.00 | vml | "...Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block (0,0)" |
| 14:45.36 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: are you sure the dma error was fixed officially? :p |
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| 14:46.06 | dcordes-x1 | Marajin_ hmm :/ |
| 14:47.53 | Marajin_ | interesting, I'm still getting dma errors during bootup but settings starts now |
| 14:47.57 | captnoord | VFS = virtual File System |
| 14:48.12 | vml | captnoord i know |
| 14:48.16 | captnoord | unable to mount a fs on a NULL |
| 14:48.28 | captnoord | have you searched the wiki? |
| 14:49.33 | vml | yes |
| 14:49.36 | vml | i dont found |
| 14:49.38 | vml | nothing |
| 14:50.44 | captnoord | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Installing_Linux |
| 14:50.47 | captnoord | read this and stuff? |
| 14:51.19 | captnoord | or |
| 14:51.20 | captnoord | even |
| 14:51.22 | captnoord | the improved |
| 14:51.22 | captnoord | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
| 14:52.27 | captnoord | so your sure you found nothing? |
| 14:52.28 | captnoord | :S |
| 14:53.00 | vml | thanks i will install it now ;) |
| 14:53.39 | Pure4Real | hehe |
| 14:54.11 | Pure4Real | morning guys/girls |
| 14:54.23 | captnoord | high fives Pure4Real |
| 14:54.29 | Pure4Real | i know the last 5 letters were kinda useless, but still |
| 14:54.36 | Pure4Real | high fives back |
| 14:55.14 | Pure4Real | if i ever find a girl that likes installing linux on her phone and looks good i'll marry her |
| 14:55.41 | Marajin_ | I have found a girl like that |
| 14:55.41 | captnoord | I had a girl once who asked me to teach her to code |
| 14:55.50 | Marajin_ | unfortunately for you, she's been my girlfriend for over 3 years |
| 14:55.58 | captnoord | hehe |
| 14:56.02 | Pure4Real | hehe, hold on to that Marajin_ :) |
| 14:56.14 | Pure4Real | although, my motto is, everything can break :D |
| 14:56.14 | Marajin_ | EECS major |
| 14:56.38 | Pure4Real | lucky bastard |
| 14:56.52 | Pure4Real | :) |
| 14:57.03 | Marajin_ | aye |
| 14:58.26 | Pure4Real | so how's stuff here |
| 14:58.48 | captnoord | I should study but i'm not in the mood |
| 14:58.54 | Pure4Real | hah, same ehre |
| 14:58.55 | Pure4Real | here |
| 14:58.55 | captnoord | so..... messing with da kernel |
| 14:59.08 | Pure4Real | i have a neurology exam tomorrow |
| 14:59.25 | Pure4Real | if i pass it will be a miracle |
| 14:59.55 | captnoord | I always think... that if I have 2 tests.... and I can't learn them both.... |
| 14:59.58 | captnoord | I just learn 1 |
| 15:00.09 | captnoord | resulting I have a good grade for 1 test |
| 15:00.18 | Pure4Real | yeah, i do the same |
| 15:00.25 | captnoord | I know from how I learn |
| 15:00.31 | captnoord | that if I learn 2 |
| 15:00.40 | captnoord | I fail them |
| 15:00.40 | captnoord | so |
| 15:00.46 | captnoord | just read |
| 15:00.49 | captnoord | and learn a bit |
| 15:00.51 | Pure4Real | problem is that i have to read all this crappy stuff in italian |
| 15:01.03 | Pure4Real | takes ages compared to english or dutch |
| 15:02.20 | captnoord | hmm... if I ever will learn a new language |
| 15:02.28 | captnoord | I will force myself to watch drame series |
| 15:02.32 | captnoord | and movies in that language |
| 15:02.42 | captnoord | its how I learned proper english |
| 15:02.43 | captnoord | :P |
| 15:02.46 | captnoord | or at least a bit |
| 15:02.47 | captnoord | hehe |
| 15:02.55 | Pure4Real | maybe i should download all of futurama in italian |
| 15:02.58 | Pure4Real | :D |
| 15:03.32 | captnoord | yup |
| 15:03.36 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: I think GPRS is nonfunctional in dzo's android on kaiser too =/ |
| 15:03.37 | captnoord | it actualy works |
| 15:03.47 | captnoord | because in your mind you have the storyline |
| 15:03.56 | captnoord | and maybe a bit of the new language itself |
| 15:04.00 | captnoord | and it auto links them |
| 15:04.07 | captnoord | like a very big linked tree |
| 15:04.10 | captnoord | loves memory |
| 15:04.22 | Pure4Real | well i can read italian fine, its just that listening to it is so much harder |
| 15:04.34 | Pure4Real | because they talk fast and there are alot of different accents |
| 15:04.50 | captnoord | then |
| 15:04.52 | captnoord | you SHOULD |
| 15:04.54 | captnoord | I mean |
| 15:05.01 | captnoord | I had the same with english |
| 15:05.11 | captnoord | but I forces myself to watch movies without subtitles |
| 15:05.13 | captnoord | and stuff |
| 15:05.22 | captnoord | forcing me to listen |
| 15:05.26 | Pure4Real | mm |
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| 15:05.31 | Pure4Real | yeah i know |
| 15:05.41 | Pure4Real | but i cant really get myself to doing this stuff |
| 15:05.43 | Marajin_ | dcordes-x1: scratch that, it's possible to kickstart it, it works |
| 15:06.26 | captnoord | Pure4Real: same here...... loads of stuff todo |
| 15:06.29 | captnoord | but just not in the mood |
| 15:07.43 | Marajin_ | ooh, SMS works though |
| 15:07.55 | Marajin_ | man if that DMA wasn't still buggering up this'd be genuinely worth using |
| 15:10.04 | Pure4Real | goes for c to the offee |
| 15:10.21 | AstainHellbring | morning Marajin_ |
| 15:10.46 | Marajin_ | Pure4Real: C8H10N4O2 ;) |
| 15:10.48 | Marajin_ | AstainHellbring: hey man |
| 15:10.52 | AstainHellbring | hows it going? |
| 15:11.14 | Marajin_ | Pure4Real: though currently I prefer C10H14N2 |
| 15:11.33 | Marajin_ | AstainHellbring: Not bad, playing with the newest stuff on android for kaiser... if the DMA errors were fixed it'd be awesomness |
| 15:11.44 | AstainHellbring | cool cool |
| 15:11.53 | AstainHellbring | I haven't touch my kaiser in so long |
| 15:12.17 | AstainHellbring | it sits in a drawer in my desk atm |
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| 15:13.36 | Marajin_ | AstainHellbring: I haven't got around to getting a raphael yet |
| 15:14.29 | AstainHellbring | I love mine but wish that I had US 3g on stupid gsm raph |
| 15:14.45 | Marajin_ | AstainHellbring: Move to a civilized country then ;) |
| 15:15.13 | AstainHellbring | lol |
| 15:15.15 | AstainHellbring | :P |
| 15:15.44 | Marajin_ | I got about 4 weeks before I can renew and get a raph I think |
| 15:15.51 | AstainHellbring | nice |
| 15:16.09 | Marajin_ | as soon as I do the next week they'll bring out something that makes a raph look like a kids toy of coure |
| 15:16.12 | Marajin_ | *course |
| 15:16.17 | captnoord | does anybody know |
| 15:16.17 | captnoord | how he did |
| 15:16.17 | captnoord | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&highlight=touch+screen&page=212 |
| 15:16.17 | captnoord | this? |
| 15:16.48 | Marajin_ | captnoord: Sacrificed 3 chickens to the gods of voodoo hacker |
| 15:16.49 | Marajin_ | y |
| 15:16.55 | captnoord | hehe |
| 15:16.58 | captnoord | yea I tryed that |
| 15:17.02 | captnoord | but didn't work.... |
| 15:17.07 | captnoord | now i'm all bloody and stuff |
| 15:17.15 | captnoord | teachers looking wierd at me |
| 15:18.38 | Marajin_ | teachers.. whadda they know? |
| 15:18.56 | captnoord | they asked me why I was walking around with these chickens |
| 15:19.12 | Marajin_ | did you call them nubs? |
| 15:19.28 | captnoord | 90% of my teachers are NOOBS |
| 15:19.29 | captnoord | but |
| 15:19.31 | captnoord | some are nice |
| 15:19.53 | Marajin_ | back in college I had a teacher who let me just mess around on my laptop as much as I wanted |
| 15:20.01 | Marajin_ | I didn't have to do any work in class |
| 15:21.39 | AstainHellbring | Marajin what is the status as far as you know on kaiser androids? |
| 15:22.43 | captnoord | the kaiser android had the same problem as the raphael androids atm..... |
| 15:22.48 | captnoord | so if you could give me a light |
| 15:22.49 | captnoord | :P |
| 15:23.40 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: MMS, SMS, Calling, Sound, PM, Screen dimming all work |
| 15:23.50 | AstainHellbring | wow nice |
| 15:23.57 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: SD access still seems to be shaky, but perhaps less shakey than it was |
| 15:24.04 | Marajin | oh LEDs/Vibrate also work |
| 15:24.13 | Marajin | GPS doesn't |
| 15:24.13 | captnoord | Marajin: you know about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&highlight=touch+screen&page=212 |
| 15:24.13 | captnoord | ? |
| 15:24.16 | Marajin | GPRS works but you have to use a silly thing |
| 15:24.26 | AstainHellbring | silly thing? |
| 15:24.48 | Marajin | you have to use another app to manually invoke GPRS connections, the android stuff won't work. |
| 15:24.58 | AstainHellbring | ahh ok |
| 15:25.04 | AstainHellbring | titan had that same kinda thing |
| 15:25.51 | AstainHellbring | damn makes me wish I was at work today to grab out kaiser and try it |
| 15:26.16 | AstainHellbring | Marajin so on kaiser does it do grps over H or is it just edge or worse? |
| 15:27.02 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: No idea, I only get GRPS/EDGE reception at home and I'm not going driving just to test 3G/HSDPA/HSUPA |
| 15:27.12 | Marajin | captnoord: What about it? |
| 15:27.56 | captnoord | he speaks of that his touchscreen fails, when he touches the screen it seems that it is only touching the bottom.... |
| 15:27.57 | AstainHellbring | ahh ok |
| 15:27.59 | captnoord | on 1 spot |
| 15:28.06 | captnoord | no matter where you touch the screen |
| 15:28.15 | AstainHellbring | damn me for leaving kaiser in desk at work |
| 15:28.19 | captnoord | that behavure we also have on the raphael with the .27 branch |
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| 15:28.34 | captnoord | I already PM'ed the guy through the forum |
| 15:28.44 | captnoord | but if there are more people around |
| 15:28.46 | captnoord | I will ask.... |
| 15:28.47 | captnoord | :P |
| 15:28.59 | Marajin | captnoord: My TS works fine |
| 15:29.16 | captnoord | I see, but do you know of what he speaks of? |
| 15:29.24 | Marajin | no? |
| 15:29.30 | captnoord | okey |
| 15:29.32 | captnoord | thanks anyway |
| 15:29.33 | captnoord | :F |
| 15:29.34 | captnoord | :D |
| 15:31.21 | Marajin | sorry |
| 15:31.37 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: meh it's prone to things just crashing randomly with the broken SD I think |
| 15:31.50 | Marajin | AstainHellbring: If the SD issues is ever fixed though, I'd consider using it as my main OS |
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| 15:37.16 | AstainHellbring | wow nice |
| 15:37.50 | AstainHellbring | http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/nvidias-tegra-in-the-flesh-booting-to-android-and-pumping-out/ |
| 15:39.18 | xsacha | hey guys. i have a samsung i780 and was wondering about booting android up on it. currently trying the files meant for HTC kaiser and it gets stuck on this black screen that says a bunch of messages. last one is something like 'booting in to linux' |
| 15:39.45 | AstainHellbring | xsacha you will need a kernel made for you device not for kaiser |
| 15:39.54 | xsacha | yeah ok |
| 15:40.24 | xsacha | do you know of any existing i780 projects? |
| 15:40.47 | xsacha | something i can keep a watch on |
| 15:42.16 | AstainHellbring | nope I don't know of any |
| 15:44.10 | td001 | Hello |
| 15:44.33 | td001 | where can I find a linux porting for HTC s620? |
| 15:45.10 | captnoord | wikik |
| 15:45.12 | captnoord | wiki |
| 15:45.27 | captnoord | http://wiki.xda-developers.com |
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| 15:51.25 | td001 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Linux_Android ? |
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| 16:40.29 | xsacha | why only htc phones? :( |
| 16:41.28 | xsacha | if i was to work on my own port for i780.. what would be best start pt? a htc phone with similar form factor (a keyboard) or a samsung phone, omnia? |
| 16:49.39 | Pure4Real | you first need to find if its possible to build a kernel for the architecture of the processor in your phone |
| 16:50.50 | tmzt | mickey|lunch: commands have to be sent to the radio (BP) to handle the audio routing, this is currently done through righting to sysfs |
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| 17:02.59 | tmzt | mickey|osx: commands have to be sent to the radio (BP) to handle the audio routing, this is currently done through righting to sysfs |
| 17:03.18 | tmzt | s/righting/writing/ |
| 17:05.00 | xsacha | processor is arm920t pxa311.. same as omnia i think |
| 17:05.04 | xsacha | and it works on omnia |
| 17:07.52 | tmzt | xsacha: what does? |
| 17:07.58 | tmzt | what device? |
| 17:08.25 | xsacha | i780 |
| 17:08.45 | tmzt | ah, lama is working on that and it appears someone else might be |
| 17:08.53 | tmzt | we really need to get these centralized |
| 17:09.03 | xsacha | oh ok cool |
| 17:09.33 | tmzt | lama: did we get the pxafb timings yet? |
| 17:09.50 | xsacha | will the abnormal screen resolution be a problem for i780? |
| 17:10.03 | tmzt | no, not for X and linux at least |
| 17:10.09 | tmzt | don't know about android |
| 17:10.37 | xsacha | 320x320 .. the android interface |
| 17:11.17 | tmzt | it might, it's designed for 480x320 |
| 17:11.41 | xsacha | i guess most phones will have problems though - like xperia |
| 17:12.55 | mickey|osx | tmzt: ah right, that's ok for a start. is there any interest in doing alsa SoC? |
| 17:14.26 | tmzt | google isn't using it, they have an OSS-like interface with some proprietary parts (though apparently only used for echo cancellation with headsets or something) |
| 17:14.57 | tmzt | no one has written an ASoC driver for aDSP audio or audio routing |
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| 17:17.58 | mickey|osx | i see |
| 17:18.12 | mickey|osx | well, what google is using or not is irrelevant to mainline |
| 17:18.19 | mickey|osx | there is a canonical infrastructure for audio routing |
| 17:18.27 | mickey|osx | just a matter of whether you want to encourage folks to write that or not |
| 17:18.52 | mickey|osx | i'm fine to cover up device specifics in the middleware |
| 17:19.10 | mickey|osx | i just think sooner or later it would be nice to use the standard infrastructure |
| 17:19.10 | tmzt | true, it just means noone has done that work outside google either, we mostly want the tree to be as close to g1/trout as possible, particulurly since google is upstreaming their code |
| 17:19.29 | mickey|osx | *nod* |
| 17:19.53 | tmzt | interestingly android now has an alsa backend for audioflinger, but it's intended for small laptops |
| 17:21.08 | Pure4Real | android for laptops? |
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| 17:58.49 | Marajin | android on UMPCs ? heh :P |
| 17:59.47 | tmzt | yeah, and "netbook" |
| 18:00.06 | tmzt | something swetland was working on, released in android.git.kernel.org |
| 18:00.27 | ali1234 | android needs to be able to use mouse input, then it will be usable on netbooks |
| 18:01.00 | ali1234 | that and a newer kernel that actually supports all the hardware of those things |
| 18:05.19 | Pure4Real | but netbooks use normal x86 architecture mostly right? |
| 18:05.30 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 18:05.44 | ali1234 | there is no "mostly" about it, they are completely x86 |
| 18:06.03 | Pure4Real | i meant that most netbooks use it |
| 18:06.40 | Pure4Real | i think there are some with other archs, but not sure |
| 18:06.41 | AstainHellbring | there has been a few annouced arm ones |
| 18:06.45 | ali1234 | all except that MIPS based chinese knock off, and the original psion netbook from 10 years ago |
| 18:06.45 | Pure4Real | mm |
| 18:06.57 | tmzt | arm/cortex-a8 are coming, and there are mips versions |
| 18:07.24 | Pure4Real | would android for netbooks use the same pullup menu? |
| 18:08.09 | xsacha | they aim to have 50% netbooks on arm |
| 18:08.12 | xsacha | using android? |
| 18:08.51 | tmzt | or ubuntu mobile |
| 18:11.51 | xsacha | http://www.osnews.com/story/20993/Freescale_To_Use_Android_Aims_for_Half_of_Netbook_Market |
| 18:12.39 | xsacha | there you go Pure4Real |
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| 18:16.22 | Bushman | hi guys |
| 18:16.39 | Bushman | how's the BA support going? |
| 18:16.50 | Bushman | phone and wifi working yet? |
| 18:17.54 | tmzt | hey Bushman |
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| 18:18.02 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: yes? |
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| 18:18.38 | tmzt | Bushman: wifi is where the others are now I think, waiting on a driver which might be the one from g1 or might not |
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| 18:33.06 | Bushman | g1? |
| 18:33.16 | xsacha | blueangel use same wifi as the dream? |
| 18:33.56 | dcordes-x1 | tmzt I tried to apply your tslib patch to the remastered tsc2003.c in the htc-vogue branch. it does not apply any longer and I'm not sure how to put it now. can you have a look? |
| 18:34.17 | dcordes-x1 | xsacha no |
| 18:34.26 | lama | xsacha: do you own i780? |
| 18:34.41 | xsacha | yes |
| 18:34.50 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: dzo made some changes, we need a clean tsc2003.c |
| 18:35.02 | dcordes-x1 | xsacha also TI but the newer ti1251 |
| 18:35.06 | xsacha | got it right next to me |
| 18:35.10 | tmzt | though cr2 said it's not a problem to do the calculations in the kernel, tslib doesn't care |
| 18:35.41 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: xsacha? you mean wifi in the i780? |
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| 18:37.17 | dcordes-x1 | tmzt can you look at the current file? got no clue what to do. |
| 18:37.18 | xsacha | no |
| 18:37.58 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: do you know if fbcon works on msmfb without the VDH or softkeyboard? |
| 18:38.01 | dcordes-x1 | xsacha somebody was mentioning they were working on i780 kernel |
| 18:38.29 | xsacha | cool! |
| 18:38.34 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: and I don't know what dzo did to tsc2003.c, I'm just trying to find a clean copy without changes for msm or whatever |
| 18:38.35 | xsacha | a git or anything available? |
| 18:38.52 | dcordes-x1 | ..iirc. better grep the log |
| 18:39.16 | tmzt | no git, lama is just starting on it with a zylonite build |
| 18:39.46 | tmzt | we can ask ph5 about a tree on ltg though if people are interested in it |
| 18:40.24 | dcordes-x1 | what is zylonite? |
| 18:41.37 | tmzt | a pxa3xx-based demo board |
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| 18:41.58 | tmzt | dcordes-x1: sorry about the tsc2003, I tried looking at it the other day |
| 18:42.04 | NetRipper | lol, http://www.pdashop.nl/images/product/image.php?id=72630&dimensionid=1&shopid=2 |
| 18:42.08 | NetRipper | a touch diamond with, real diamonds |
| 18:42.08 | tmzt | if you have a c.rej I can look at that though |
| 18:42.40 | NetRipper | a better link, http://www.pdashop.nl/product-gallery/64383/0 |
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| 19:52.08 | brosseauvalentin | Hi everyone :) |
| 19:53.09 | brosseauvalentin | Wow What is this nickname |
| 19:53.17 | d-snp | :P |
| 19:53.24 | c4software | better :D |
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| 20:12.03 | lama | xsacha: are you there? |
| 20:13.47 | lama | xsacha: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=481144 |
| 20:20.47 | xsacha | im back |
| 20:20.48 | xsacha | thanks |
| 20:22.02 | xsacha | oh yeah i saw that thread before |
| 20:22.37 | xsacha | whys it only 2.1mb tho.. just has the linux and not the android part? |
| 20:22.53 | lama | just busybox |
| 20:23.02 | xsacha | i can just copy over my system img and it can load that? |
| 20:23.29 | xsacha | or much more work to load android? |
| 20:23.49 | lama | uncompress files on storage and start haret, click run default.txt |
| 20:23.57 | lama | "much work" :) |
| 20:23.57 | xsacha | dont care if it's graphically correct or if anything works, just trying to load android |
| 20:24.06 | xsacha | so cant load it yet? |
| 20:25.13 | xsacha | do i need .config? |
| 20:25.44 | lama | no you don't need it |
| 20:25.48 | lama | it is kernel config |
| 20:25.53 | xsacha | oh ok for compiling |
| 20:26.08 | lama | as long as you don't have fully cunctional kernel booting android doesn't make sense |
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| 20:26.43 | lama | and 320x320 resolution means android doesn't make sense at all |
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| 20:27.47 | xsacha | oh, still stuck on a kernel panic. surely we can just squish up android a bit? ;) |
| 20:28.10 | lama | huh, kernel panic with this kernel? how so? |
| 20:28.21 | lama | do not take a one from the first post |
| 20:28.24 | xsacha | oh, thought that was the current problem -- reading forums |
| 20:28.26 | lama | scroll down a bit |
| 20:28.30 | xsacha | k |
| 20:28.46 | xsacha | so dont get the one from netbsd.pl? |
| 20:29.11 | xsacha | got it |
| 20:32.20 | xsacha | is there a difference in using the haret-ipaq and the one that is used for htc kaiser? |
| 20:32.31 | xsacha | same processor? |
| 20:35.03 | lama | afaik it doesn't matter for booting kernel |
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| 21:01.03 | xsacha | well hey is there any issues with busybox lama, cause it looks fine to me |
| 21:01.33 | lama | xsacha: you can't call from it:) |
| 21:01.42 | xsacha | oh ok |
| 21:02.08 | xsacha | call as in.. ? |
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| 21:02.23 | xsacha | oh phonecall |
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| 21:02.47 | xsacha | well busybox works fine, so shouldnt you be trying android build on there now? |
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| 21:09.18 | xsacha | hmm i tried the initrd that comes with kaiser and get spammed by Waiting for SD Card |
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| 21:19.21 | captnoord | zooo |
| 21:19.23 | captnoord | goeie moggol |
| 21:19.29 | captnoord | waves around |
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| 21:26.31 | foxhunt | android on the kaiser works great even de hadware keyboad works better than under wndows mobile |
| 21:26.40 | lama | xsacha: there is no SD support :) |
| 21:26.48 | lama | so you might wait for it few days :) |
| 21:26.56 | captnoord | I don't think he needs it |
| 21:26.56 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:27.05 | captnoord | and I already knew its better than windows mobile |
| 21:27.08 | captnoord | of course it is |
| 21:27.09 | captnoord | :D |
| 21:27.35 | xsacha | damn |
| 21:28.19 | captnoord | if only I could figure the touchscreen out |
| 21:28.19 | captnoord | :P |
| 21:28.19 | captnoord | so it works |
| 21:28.19 | foxhunt | yes it, |
| 21:28.29 | captnoord | it must be something with the device interface in userland |
| 21:28.32 | captnoord | of android |
| 21:28.50 | xsacha | i read some forum and they said you have to touch top corners to calibrate touchscreen before u can use it? |
| 21:29.00 | xsacha | have it working on omnia and some htc |
| 21:30.21 | captnoord | its not that |
| 21:30.33 | captnoord | the touch screen works perfectly on calibration |
| 21:30.34 | captnoord | but |
| 21:30.41 | captnoord | running android is borked |
| 21:35.24 | balsat | captnoord: Have you found out what happen when a incoming call is recived? |
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| 21:36.17 | xsacha | cant run haret off phone memory? |
| 21:36.32 | ALoGeNo | hi :) |
| 21:37.05 | ALoGeNo | hey tmzt are you there? :) |
| 21:38.19 | ALoGeNo | i need a few help, i was try xorg in the 900c and now the keyboard run only before charge cron :/ |
| 21:38.29 | xsacha | mm i ran android off phone memory and still says waiting for sd card |
| 21:38.46 | ALoGeNo | :) |
| 21:38.56 | ALoGeNo | bad thing wait :) |
| 21:39.08 | xsacha | k |
| 21:39.37 | ALoGeNo | you wait for drivers or what? |
| 21:39.45 | xsacha | sd card i guess |
| 21:39.56 | ALoGeNo | oh |
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| 21:40.10 | xsacha | why cant i choose not to use the sd lol |
| 21:40.22 | ALoGeNo | xD |
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| 21:42.08 | milas | xsacha: if you are using files from the kaiser, I think you need to modify the initrd because it has a bunch of stuff for setting up the sd controller, and the kaiser is pretty finicky so there is a lot of waiting and retrying in there to make sure it gets initialized |
| 21:43.19 | xsacha | oh ok |
| 21:43.47 | xsacha | im using i780 initrd because kaiser one screws up screen (resolution?) |
| 21:44.30 | xsacha | anyone keep up the progress.. thanks heaps for the opportunity :) |
| 21:44.34 | xsacha | anyway |
| 21:45.50 | xsacha | by the way, there's an australian phone coming out with same specs as i780 except 240x320 screen resolution. runs android. hope yet :) |
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| 22:15.07 | captnoord | balsatcaptnoord: Have you found out what happen when a incoming call is recived? |
| 22:15.08 | captnoord | nope |
| 22:15.14 | captnoord | but I was at school and stuff |
| 22:15.21 | captnoord | but |
| 22:15.29 | captnoord | I think its related to the android build |
| 22:15.52 | captnoord | so tomorrow in mybreak I do some more reading and stuff |
| 22:16.01 | captnoord | as in.... |
| 22:16.07 | captnoord | not related to the linux kernel |
| 22:16.19 | captnoord | but related to the android build that is emulated on that |
| 22:24.57 | j0b0 | captnoord that would make sense as events seem to get properly delived in the kernel, but still, with the last .25 kernel it works properly from the start, without the incoming call, with the same android |
| 22:25.32 | captnoord | the tought I have is that because of the event numbers switched |
| 22:25.47 | captnoord | as the drivers switched numbers |
| 22:25.54 | j0b0 | so it is really a problem that android makes assumtions |
| 22:26.01 | captnoord | nope |
| 22:26.01 | j0b0 | p |
| 22:26.11 | captnoord | that it isn't configured correctly |
| 22:26.12 | captnoord | also |
| 22:26.17 | captnoord | what I think is wierd |
| 22:26.28 | captnoord | is that we recieve event0 on a keyboard entry |
| 22:26.36 | captnoord | and on a touchscreen event |
| 22:26.47 | captnoord | android will see that as 1 device |
| 22:26.48 | captnoord | not as 3 |
| 22:26.53 | captnoord | but |
| 22:27.07 | captnoord | that is as far as my limited unix knowlage goes |
| 22:28.20 | j0b0 | android opens alle input devices, and based on the combination of events it can deliver, filtrs or assigns some flags |
| 22:28.29 | dcordes | "not related to the linux kernel" makes more sense to me too |
| 22:28.36 | j0b0 | like it considers it a trackball if it has REL_X and REL_Y and BTN_MOUSE |
| 22:28.41 | captnoord | yup |
| 22:28.42 | dcordes | I guess it's not hard to figure if that is correct |
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| 22:28.58 | Untouchab1e | Good evening |
| 22:29.05 | Untouchab1e | still no touch-screen working? :/ |
| 22:29.24 | captnoord | its working |
| 22:29.27 | captnoord | only not on android |
| 22:29.30 | Untouchab1e | lol |
| 22:29.31 | captnoord | yet |
| 22:29.38 | dcordes | sings ".. can't touch this.. dundundundede.." |
| 22:29.40 | Untouchab1e | then the answer to my question is now then |
| 22:29.41 | Untouchab1e | lol |
| 22:29.46 | Untouchab1e | no* |
| 22:29.52 | Untouchab1e | hi dcordes |
| 22:29.57 | Untouchab1e | how's it going? |
| 22:30.11 | dcordes | I'm ok, you? |
| 22:30.17 | Untouchab1e | pretty good.. tired though.. hah |
| 22:30.29 | Untouchab1e | you as "excited" about the HTC Magician as I am? |
| 22:30.40 | j0b0 | captnoord do you know what specs an input device has to meet for it to be considered a g-sensor in android |
| 22:30.57 | j0b0 | merely posting ABS_X/Y/Z doesnt do it |
| 22:32.17 | Untouchab1e | ah, hi J0b0! :D |
| 22:32.45 | j0b0 | evening Untouchab1e |
| 22:32.52 | Untouchab1e | how are you? |
| 22:33.20 | j0b0 | fine i guess.. trying to get the g-sensor recognized |
| 22:33.41 | Untouchab1e | cool |
| 22:33.56 | Untouchab1e | heard .27 is giving up a fight? |
| 22:34.05 | j0b0 | i can read it from the hardware but i dont know what kind of device to make |
| 22:35.10 | Untouchab1e | hmm |
| 22:35.21 | Untouchab1e | Could you give me a short update on the main focus areas atm? |
| 22:35.31 | Untouchab1e | Touch screen...WiFi? |
| 22:36.00 | captnoord | hmmm |
| 22:36.03 | captnoord | mouse? |
| 22:36.11 | captnoord | as far as I know a giro |
| 22:36.35 | captnoord | giroscope is delta X delta y |
| 22:36.57 | captnoord | + what ever you have for a sensors in that thing |
| 22:37.03 | j0b0 | its not a gyro, its a gsensor. i feels pull, not movement |
| 22:37.04 | captnoord | but to awnser your question |
| 22:37.10 | captnoord | I actualy don't know |
| 22:37.16 | captnoord | hehe |
| 22:37.24 | captnoord | its a delta sigma device |
| 22:37.30 | j0b0 | but anyway, would it be a matter of suplying the correct EV_BLA and BLA_X/Y/Z events? |
| 22:38.05 | Untouchab1e | have we made any work on the power management, speaker/mic or any other large area? |
| 22:38.24 | captnoord | j0b0: I have no idea..... |
| 22:38.27 | captnoord | i'm googling now |
| 22:39.36 | j0b0 | untouchab1e i dont know. i only started poking around in this last weekend. been busy. but i think its still mainly mapping out the device |
| 22:40.03 | Untouchab1e | I see.. |
| 22:40.04 | Untouchab1e | been busy myself |
| 22:40.05 | j0b0 | captnoord there is EventHub which takes care of touchscreen, keyboard, trackball, navi |
| 22:40.18 | j0b0 | and then there is SensorManager, and i have no clue what it looks for |
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| 22:41.00 | cr2 | hi |
| 22:41.04 | captnoord | kills ISP |
| 22:41.05 | captnoord | damn |
| 22:41.34 | cr2 | j0b0: you have written the accelerometer driver ? |
| 22:41.48 | captnoord | http://pof.eslack.org/blog/2008/06/03/i2c-gsensor-lis3lv02dl-accelerometer-on-htc-shift-g-sensor/ |
| 22:42.47 | j0b0 | cr2, well.. i have written a driver that can dump accelerometer data to the console or report to an input device |
| 22:43.20 | j0b0 | but i cat get it to ..uhm.. show up anywhere |
| 22:43.23 | cr2 | ABS_X , y and Z ? |
| 22:43.29 | j0b0 | yes |
| 22:43.44 | cr2 | i think it's enough for the kernel |
| 22:43.59 | cr2 | if you can see them with evtest |
| 22:44.15 | cr2 | or just od -x /dev/input/eventX |
| 22:44.39 | j0b0 | yes. it spews events through /dev/event1 |
| 22:44.46 | cr2 | so it's up to the application developers to decide what they will do with it. |
| 22:45.16 | cr2 | i'm thinking about the gpsd extension already :) |
| 22:45.28 | cr2 | to write the tracks in tunnels |
| 22:45.51 | cr2 | needs some intelligent postprocessing though. |
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| 22:46.36 | cr2 | j0b0: push NetRipper so he will include it into git |
| 22:46.45 | j0b0 | for now i would settle for google maps rotating landscape when i turn the device sideways |
| 22:46.53 | j0b0 | will do. its not really correct yet |
| 22:46.56 | j0b0 | but it works |
| 22:47.14 | cr2 | "really correct" ? |
| 22:47.34 | captnoord | j0b0: what does the sensor dump you? |
| 22:47.37 | captnoord | delta's |
| 22:47.37 | captnoord | or |
| 22:47.42 | captnoord | points? |
| 22:47.48 | j0b0 | well .. i enable it from the probe function, and have no ioctl or anything |
| 22:47.58 | captnoord | G sensors often only sends delta |
| 22:48.05 | captnoord | as its diff / sec |
| 22:48.07 | captnoord | ^2 |
| 22:48.09 | j0b0 | i get errors during the init sequence but it works anyway |
| 22:48.19 | captnoord | dx/dt ^2 |
| 22:48.20 | captnoord | stuff |
| 22:48.23 | cr2 | do you init the undocumented register ? |
| 22:48.24 | j0b0 | there is some almost duplicate code |
| 22:48.26 | j0b0 | etc.. |
| 22:48.49 | cr2 | if something works, it's still better than nothing |
| 22:50.07 | j0b0 | whats the undocumented register? i use the init sequence that maejrep put on the wiki |
| 22:50.07 | j0b0 | that made it work. before i could already read the values but they wouldnt change |
| 22:50.08 | cr2 | read reg_0x1e |
| 22:50.08 | j0b0 | i added the mmutrace of the data getting read |
| 22:50.08 | cr2 | reg_0xb = reg_0x1e |
| 22:50.16 | cr2 | the rest is in the datasheet |
| 22:50.22 | j0b0 | no. i actually just write 0x1e |
| 22:51.04 | cr2 | hmm. |
| 22:51.41 | j0b0 | which is probably why i get i2c_mcm errors :) |
| 22:51.48 | cr2 | # var = rd 30,1e |
| 22:51.49 | cr2 | # wr 30,b, var |
| 22:52.02 | cr2 | this is what maejrep put into wiki |
| 22:52.05 | j0b0 | yes. i see onthe wiki |
| 22:52.07 | cr2 | matches my pseudocode |
| 22:52.39 | j0b0 | right. but that has been on the wiki since this morning. before only the trace. |
| 22:52.55 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:52.56 | j0b0 | so yes, work to do, but at least it outputs real values. |
| 22:53.05 | cr2 | i've put the pseudocode long ago :) |
| 22:53.11 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:53.59 | cr2 | j0b0: do you know the i2c ids of both cameras ? |
| 22:54.34 | j0b0 | no. but since 2 days ago i know how to decipher that from the mmutrace |
| 22:55.12 | cr2 | nice |
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| 22:56.29 | captnoord | GOD ******** |
| 22:56.34 | captnoord | i'm gonne kill my isp |
| 23:01.38 | j0b0 | cr2 this is what i have working so far: http://tibook.jb.b4m.com/j0b0/raph-gsensor.c.txt it dumps x,y,z to console and reports to an input device |
| 23:03.47 | cr2 | j0b0: the register names may be taken from the datasheet |
| 23:04.41 | NetRipper | nice job j0b0 :) |
| 23:05.53 | NetRipper | j0b0, does it not conflict with touchscreen events? |
| 23:05.54 | j0b0 | i dont know |
| 23:05.54 | NetRipper | cr2, nice job on the msm_tvout documentation btw.. :) |
| 23:06.06 | NetRipper | cr2, im hoping to give it a try sometime soon |
| 23:06.19 | NetRipper | j0b0, ok |
| 23:06.27 | NetRipper | dont we know the chiptype of the gsensor? |
| 23:06.34 | NetRipper | would be nicer than having it name 'raph_gsensor" |
| 23:06.42 | j0b0 | i ve looked at the akm8976 driver, which is the compass in trout, and it does some more stuff |
| 23:06.49 | j0b0 | yes we do know the chip name |
| 23:07.08 | j0b0 | maejrep put it on the wiki |
| 23:07.08 | c4software | Nice j0b0 |
| 23:07.09 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:07.13 | NetRipper | maybe we can name it after that |
| 23:07.37 | j0b0 | iets dat lekker bekt: DS9K1234BLERGH or so |
| 23:07.42 | NetRipper | lol |
| 23:08.01 | NetRipper | makes it look interesting ;) |
| 23:09.19 | j0b0 | the akm8976 does a couple of misc_register()s and device_create_file()s. could that expose the device in a way it gets recognized as a g-sensor? |
| 23:09.37 | *** join/#htc-linux MethoS- (n=lem@host-091-097-246-188.ewe-ip-backbone.de) |
| 23:09.46 | NetRipper | it could yes, depends on what's written to the file |
| 23:10.00 | NetRipper | i.e. the msmfb also creates a file in sysfs, but that's merely for debugging |
| 23:11.13 | c4software | its time to sleep for me |
| 23:11.15 | c4software | See ya |
| 23:11.20 | NetRipper | night |
| 23:11.24 | j0b0 | good nite |
| 23:11.39 | *** part/#htc-linux c4software (n=brosseau@roo49-2-88-161-139-221.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:14.46 | NetRipper | kxsd9 |
| 23:14.56 | NetRipper | that's not too bad |
| 23:14.58 | NetRipper | :P |
| 23:15.00 | j0b0 | like i said |
| 23:16.17 | cr2 | NetRipper: tvout also uses some rpc call todo pm_tv_en |
| 23:16.41 | NetRipper | cr2, aw, so it's not just that init to get it working? |
| 23:16.43 | cr2 | NetRipper: but behind it may be the TVout=1 msm gpio |
| 23:17.10 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:17.15 | cr2 | NetRipper: it also needs to detect the cable connect |
| 23:17.46 | cr2 | wince does it with dex call |
| 23:17.46 | NetRipper | im lending a tv out cable, so i can test |
| 23:18.03 | cr2 | trace the gpio as the first thing |
| 23:18.08 | *** join/#htc-linux cmonex (n=xy6091@zg2yw3s205.adsl.datanet.hu) |
| 23:18.12 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:18.19 | NetRipper | should have it tomorrow |
| 23:18.22 | cr2 | hmm. i need to buy the tvout cable eventually |
| 23:19.47 | NetRipper | i'd also be curious if it would automatically work if enabled in wince, and then booting linux |
| 23:19.54 | cr2 | NetRipper: there is tvout=1 gpio, which i don't see in the driver. |
| 23:21.08 | cr2 | i think it's from nk.exe, need to revisit this one too. |
| 23:21.08 | NetRipper | which driver? |
| 23:21.08 | cr2 | maybe some mdp changes are needed |
| 23:21.09 | cr2 | disptools.dll |
| 23:21.09 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:21.09 | NetRipper | thought you meant a trout one |
| 23:21.09 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:21.09 | cr2 | what about sound ? |
| 23:21.18 | cr2 | btw, i still don't understand why the umts data channel does not work. |
| 23:21.34 | NetRipper | i think someone should eventually try to port vogue's smd router |
| 23:21.53 | NetRipper | no idea how much would it'll be |
| 23:22.10 | NetRipper | perhaps its real easy even, if it's alike the 7200 |
| 23:22.26 | NetRipper | we never tried data channel |
| 23:22.39 | NetRipper | the driver doesn't automatically enable all channels it detects |
| 23:24.06 | NetRipper | data is channel 1 right? |
| 23:26.09 | cr2 | yes |
| 23:26.09 | cr2 | vogue is different |
| 23:26.20 | cr2 | can we detect the amss version ? |
| 23:26.21 | cr2 | i have 52.33.xx.17W |
| 23:26.34 | cr2 | says wince |
| 23:26.36 | cr2 | at boot |
| 23:26.48 | NetRipper | i think it'll be somewhere in smem |
| 23:27.08 | cr2 | would be nice |
| 23:27.09 | NetRipper | dont know how to detect it |
| 23:27.26 | NetRipper | we could certainly retrieve it if we get NAND working |
| 23:27.31 | NetRipper | as it's written on there |
| 23:28.27 | cr2 | +0xfc020 radio ver |
| 23:28.29 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.48 | cr2 | NetRipper: how big is the wince nand partition ? |
| 23:29.19 | cr2 | NetRipper: what do you have at these locations ? |
| 23:29.25 | NetRipper | btw, j0b0 and maejrep, you should change RAMSIZE in default.txt to 0x5900000 (instead of 0x6000000, in case you're still using that) |
| 23:29.42 | NetRipper | will prevent some hangs |
| 23:29.47 | NetRipper | during boot |
| 23:30.01 | NetRipper | hm |
| 23:30.13 | j0b0 | i dont use RAMSIZE, only mem= |
| 23:30.14 | NetRipper | cr2, let me see |
| 23:30.26 | NetRipper | j0b0, ok on latest kernel in git, you dont need mem= anymore |
| 23:30.35 | NetRipper | j0b0, and add RAMSIZE to your default.txt |
| 23:30.56 | NetRipper | j0b0, it's unrelated to linux, but it'll affect where haret places the kernel and initrd in memory |
| 23:31.10 | NetRipper | well it's related to linux too, but ignored anyway :p |
| 23:31.55 | cr2 | 65 7f 00 00 ... |
| 23:32.02 | j0b0 | didnt you and cr2 get both ram banks mapped and like 220M of ram for linux? |
| 23:32.05 | cr2 | 9a ff 0c 1b ... |
| 23:32.23 | j0b0 | and if so did you push that to git yet |
| 23:32.39 | cr2 | j0b0: it's if 0 |
| 23:32.41 | NetRipper | j0b0, yes but in current commit the 2nd memory bank is still disabled.. as android hangs at boot when its enabled... and i dont know why yet |
| 23:32.57 | cr2 | j0b0: because the solid and stable android software feel unhappy |
| 23:33.15 | NetRipper | cr2, i sense some sarcasm ;) |
| 23:33.17 | cr2 | lol |
| 23:33.41 | cr2 | java likes ram, that's for sure |
| 23:34.18 | NetRipper | true but why would it hang on that additional ram, while it /seems to be/ valid ram |
| 23:34.20 | toer_ | http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/htc-magic-is-official-bringing-android-to-vodafone-sans-keyboar/ |
| 23:34.47 | NetRipper | nice |
| 23:34.57 | NetRipper | another device we can steal code from |
| 23:36.23 | toer_ | indeed |
| 23:36.24 | cr2 | NetRipper: maybe some static thing is hardcoded somewhere |
| 23:36.44 | NetRipper | HaRET(4)# pd 0x01ffc020 10 |
| 23:36.44 | NetRipper | 01ffc020 | 31312e31 2e35322e 00003130 | 1.11.25.01.. |
| 23:37.14 | NetRipper | HaRET(6)# pd 0x01ffc030 10 |
| 23:37.15 | NetRipper | 01ffc030 | 352e3235 35322e38 5530332e | 52.58.25.30U |
| 23:37.27 | cr2 | 0x31 is what ? |
| 23:37.41 | cr2 | looks like ascii to me |
| 23:38.03 | cr2 | yeas |
| 23:38.14 | cr2 | g23 ver is the amss :) |
| 23:38.18 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:38.35 | cr2 | 52.33.25.17U in my dump |
| 23:38.39 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:38.46 | NetRipper | and the first one is radio version indeed |
| 23:38.47 | cr2 | so it's 5233 |
| 23:38.54 | cr2 | and g1 is 6xxx |
| 23:39.22 | NetRipper | in wince the g23 is known as "protocol version" |
| 23:39.29 | NetRipper | and radio versino is just radio version |
| 23:39.33 | cr2 | see the battery values at fc110 too |
| 23:39.53 | NetRipper | HaRET(11)# pd 0x01ffc110 10 |
| 23:39.54 | NetRipper | 01ffc110 | 0c870001 09310c25 00000001 | ....%.1..... |
| 23:40.02 | NetRipper | if you says o |
| 23:40.05 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:40.18 | NetRipper | hm |
| 23:40.24 | cr2 | yes, we need to sort out the math |
| 23:40.24 | NetRipper | what would happen if i write a different string |
| 23:40.25 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:40.39 | cr2 | a good idea :) |
| 23:40.51 | cr2 | but in 10 sec it will be overwritten |
| 23:40.56 | NetRipper | aw |
| 23:41.00 | cr2 | i think so |
| 23:41.08 | NetRipper | why 10 sec? |
| 23:41.31 | cr2 | wince standard |
| 23:44.00 | cr2 | ok, so you can add a printk to init now. |
| 23:44.29 | cr2 | and dump the radio ver, amss ver, and cid. |
| 23:44.48 | cr2 | i think imei is not needed. |
| 23:44.53 | NetRipper | i think it invalidated it |
| 23:44.58 | NetRipper | HaRET(21)# pd 0x01ffc020 10 |
| 23:44.58 | NetRipper | 01ffc020 | ffffffff ffffffff 0000ffff | ............ |
| 23:45.10 | NetRipper | i take it it's not very happy about the write |
| 23:45.30 | cr2 | at fc110 |
| 23:45.36 | cr2 | 10bytes |
| 23:45.41 | cr2 | check the iwki |
| 23:46.16 | NetRipper | yes but i wanted to overwrite the radio version |
| 23:46.17 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 23:46.23 | cr2 | hehe |
| 23:46.34 | NetRipper | just to see if wince would report a different version |
| 23:46.35 | NetRipper | but it doesnt |
| 23:47.15 | cr2 | i think it should be easy to log the 0xfc110 values and powermon data |
| 23:47.35 | cr2 | asnd do a linear regression to find out the scaling rules |
| 23:48.23 | cr2 | instead of pulling the hair out |
| 23:48.27 | cr2 | with the mpfr |
| 23:50.03 | cr2 | 57 0x39 14 O TVout enable=1 |
| 23:50.04 | NetRipper | didnt maejrep already work on battery for raph800? |
| 23:50.20 | cr2 | he has a different location |
| 23:50.25 | NetRipper | yes |
| 23:50.28 | cr2 | and 4byte vs 2byte values |
| 23:50.30 | NetRipper | if only the locatino is different |
| 23:50.34 | NetRipper | aha |
| 23:50.42 | cr2 | and he said his conversion was wrong |
| 23:50.48 | cr2 | =taken from rogue |
| 23:50.51 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:50.54 | NetRipper | rogue lol |
| 23:50.58 | cr2 | LOL |
| 23:51.51 | cr2 | ok, need to sleep now. |
| 23:51.55 | cr2 | good night |
| 23:51.59 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:52.00 | NetRipper | good night |
| 23:54.43 | *** join/#htc-linux acsviluppo (n=acsvilup@151.67.30.254) |
| 23:59.18 | NetRipper | which /dev/smd* should be the gprs/umts/data? |
| 23:59.37 | dcordes | 1 |
| 23:59.51 | NetRipper | ok |
