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01:51.21lamatmzt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431329&page=5
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03:00.37tmztlama: that makes no sense at all
03:00.45tmztlama: what are they trying to do?
03:01.27lama"boot ubuntu" :P or something like that :>
03:02.14tmztif you want to reply and direct them here we can probably help
03:05.11tmztI'm guessing some might have the non-pxa version, like the cdma omnia but I don't know
03:09.38tmztOmnia uses ddr, I wonder if this could be an issue or only a difference in ram init
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03:42.44webPragmatistokay i'm sorta new to android / htc-linux... when a forum says set APC settings... where am I going to get to that?
03:42.51webPragmatistsorry for such an annoying question
03:50.06webPragmatistokay i found it no clue what to put heh
03:55.56webPragmatistokay nm got it :)
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04:07.35tmztwebPragmatist: no idea what you are asking, what is APC?
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04:15.54webPragmatistAPN... i'm tired ignore me
04:15.54webPragmatistanyone have Android2-1.zip
04:15.54webPragmatistfrom htc forums
04:15.54tmztfor what device?
04:15.55webPragmatistkaiser
04:16.10webPragmatisthttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470649
04:16.18webPragmatistshould be from http://slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip
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06:20.15AndyCRI know this isn't strictly on-topic, but perhaps you will be interested and maybe even provide me with advice on what to do.
06:21.08AndyCRHTC used FreeImage in TouchFlo3D. Under its license, you must provide the modified source code. I'm trying to use it on a Touch Pro, but without the modifications it'll be awhile porting it. They are obligated by law to provide it.
06:21.21AndyCRI've contacted them 3 times, and they never get back to me after speaking with one or two people.
06:22.47maejrepthey're only obligated to provide what modifications were made *to* freeimage, not the code for what they did *with* it
06:23.14AndyCRExactly. I would like the modifications of FreeImage itself so I can use it in projects I'm working on.
06:26.08AndyCRIt's frustrating to me, since I know they should provide it, and FreeImage is exactly suited to what I need to do (load JPEG/PNG, rescale in memory, resave to disk).
06:27.03maejrepyour first contact should probably be to the makers of freeimage then
06:27.23maejrepthey'd probably be able to tell you what you should do, and might even help you do so
06:28.02maejrepbut if freeimage is what you need, why can't you just use freeimage as it is?
06:28.39AndyCRNo, to compile for Windows Mobile it needs quite a few changes, it doesn't work as-is and I've spent quite awhile porting it but there's still a great deal that doesn't compile.
06:30.08AndyCRI've never done a port of a library to a phone platform before, either, and I'm new to Windows Mobile programming, so I don't know what they changed from the normal Win32 api
06:30.23AndyCRSo every time something simple doesn't compile right, I have to look it up instead of just knowing what the equivalent is.
06:32.50AndyCRI guess I should just call again, and if I don't get anywhere contact the FreeImage people.
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12:15.37shikigamithe actual diamond release of HaRET only works with DIAM100 right?
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13:06.12aHi
13:18.07Pure4Realhi
13:18.27asj_xda:)
13:24.42opennandrahi what could be problem if my kernel stops after some one line of while dots (efb) ?
13:24.51opennandra*white
13:27.27Pure4Realasj: do you have a linux server somewhere with a root console?
13:27.49asj_xdayes, why you ask?
13:28.26Pure4Reali saw on the forum for kaiser android that you want to automate a daily build of the kernel
13:28.38Pure4Reali could help you with it, i think i can do it
13:29.00asj_xdaYep, I was thinking about that, but well.. I am not sure if it was generally taken as a good idea :D
13:29.21asj_xdaanyway the most important thing would be IMHO some dev and issue tracking
13:29.32Pure4Realyes
13:29.54asj_xdacause now, what the hell, who can still know who is testing what :D I am lost in the XDA thread
13:29.56asj_xda:D
13:30.30Pure4Realyeah, so i think we need one person who can skim the thread and collect all the information about the different builds
13:30.50Pure4Realand then we need a page where people can post their trouble with new builds
13:31.05Pure4Realor we need the existing thread for that
13:31.24asj_xdayes, that was my idea from the start, but as you can see, in general it was not accepted
13:31.44asj_xdasaying that noone would use it and threat seriously anyway :(
13:33.04asj_xdagive me a second, I'll go for some cigs in the shop. BRB
13:33.11Pure4Realok
13:37.44Pure4Realasj: when you get back, check my pm
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13:45.09FjodorHi guys! I'm trying out linux on my artemis, but since neither sound, wifi nor gsm is working, I'd like to hear if a more recent kernel has support for any of those and where to get it?
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13:46.56asj_xdaNo WiFi
13:47.24asj_xdabut AFAIK all the others should work on Kaiser and/or simmilar devices
13:47.50FjodorInteresting! Where do I get the relevant kernel sources?
13:48.20asj_xdaXDA user?
13:49.07Fjodor? I got the initial setup that I tried from a link on xda-developers.com, but I haven't registered yet
13:53.53asj_xdaIMHO you cannot download attachements without signing in, and it is there posted in Kaiser Android thread
13:54.13FjodorOk, thank you very much!
13:56.25asj_xdayou're welcome.. :)
14:03.29pH5Fjodor: afaik artemis is omap850, not msm72k? BabelO or the linwizard guys should have all the details there.
14:04.56FjodorpH5: Ok, thanks. One guy at #linwizard referred me to you guys and BabelO too, so I hope to hear from him at some point in time :_)
14:04.59Fjodor:-), that is
14:05.54asj_xdaWell... dunno what is the chip in Artemiss, but if it is different, than IMHO that would not work with the files for Kaiser
14:05.56FjodorI cloned the htc-omap kernel tree from linuxtogo, but I can't seem to find a defconfig for the artemis, so I'm a little lost...
14:06.50FjodorIt is indeed an omap850, so no, the Kaiser thing probably wouldn't work afterall if that's an msm72k. Thanks anyway, though
14:08.40pH5Fjodor: yes, the ltg htc-omap branch is all I know about, too. BabelO should be able to help you.
14:09.38FjodorpH5: Ok, thanks! I'll hang around and see if he's responding. Otherwise I'll catch him tomorrow or something
14:23.23miknixFjodor, use the wizard defconfig and then enable artmis specific drivers
14:24.18FjodorAh, I just found out that I didn't get the htc-omap tree afterall, which is why there wasn't a defconfig file. What would the correct git command be to get that?
14:24.36miknixdid you fetch?
14:24.56miknixgit checkout -b htc-omap origin/htc-omap
14:26.07FjodorSo just a normal git-clone for tree, and then that checkout command?
14:26.32miknixyes
14:27.26Fjodormiknix: Excellent. I got a bit ahead of myself and deleted the tree, so I need to re-clone it but thanks a lot :-)
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15:26.20dcordes_somebody knows where to get special cables and connectoers in germany or eu? I'm looking for a wired ipod female connector or ipod connector breakout board
15:29.34miknix_ghostdcordes_, farnell
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16:21.13pH5hi cr2
16:22.32NetRipperhi ph5
16:23.32pH5hi NetRipper
16:24.36NetRipperpH5, i have rebased htc-msm-2.6.27 locally, but end up with a few warnings, would you mind taking a look at the commands i executed? i'll leave you ap astebin in query
16:28.29cr2hi
16:29.04cr2i've bought 2 2GB sodimms today for nc10 and my notebook
16:29.54cr2and have realized that i've completely lost track on the desktop cpu/ram et al. development
16:30.45NetRipperhehe
16:30.46NetRipperhi cr2
16:31.02cr2hi NetRipper
16:31.02NetRipperyep desktop stuff went really fast ;)
16:31.18cr2what are you going to hack today ? :)
16:31.25asj_xda:)
16:31.35asj_xdahi guys
16:31.43NetRippercr2, i've committed your clock divisor thingies
16:32.08cr2NetRipper: ok, and the kernel still works ? :)
16:32.11NetRipperyes
16:32.12cr2hi asj_xda
16:32.14cr2ok
16:32.21pH5is shopping for a second 4GB, too. things went insanely cheap
16:32.34NetRipperi think i first want to make android work properly on it, like the .25 kernel was working
16:33.18cr2pH5: i've seen cpu+mb+6GB of some ram = 649€
16:33.21cr2not that cheap
16:33.31NetRipperthe i7?
16:33.45cr2yes. wtf is that ?
16:33.52NetRipperit's the newest intel core
16:34.08NetRipperwith a new socket
16:34.11cr264bit ?
16:34.23NetRippernah the core 2 stuff is 64 bit already
16:34.29cr2ok
16:34.34NetRipperthe i7 has the memory controller in the processor now
16:34.42NetRipperwhich removes the front side bus
16:34.47cr2i have only atom and pxa . from intel
16:35.18NetRipperthey moved to socket 1366, while the core 2's were socket 775
16:36.04cr2hehe. 21066
16:36.25NetRipperer?
16:36.26NetRipper:)
16:36.52cr2and it's still the same x86 ?
16:37.05NetRipperit's 64bit, but still supports x86 yes
16:37.08NetRipperafaik
16:37.12cr2http://www.silirium.ru/dec-alpha-21066.html
16:37.30NetRipperaha
16:37.44NetRipperalpha
16:38.04cr2yeah, 13 years ago :)
16:38.09NetRipperhehe
16:38.17NetRipperthey'd better wait for the beta
16:38.17NetRipper;)
16:39.40cr2NetRipper: the clock file will need a lot of refactoring
16:40.04cr2i don't know why htc does not use dex for clock control (the api is there)
16:40.05NetRipperit primarily needs adding to... to support other clocks
16:40.18cr2so we have no other chance, but to follow their code
16:40.25cr2yes
16:40.37cr2the sdcc_* may be changed to mdns_*
16:40.52NetRipperwhat's mdns mean?
16:41.02cr2because it's not really sdcc specific
16:41.18NetRipperoh, md/ns
16:41.26cr2it's the 4+(=7) settings
16:41.53cr2multiplier,duty,divisor and some other weird 's' settings
16:42.05NetRipperaha
16:42.28NetRipperi never really got how clocks work.. so im just glad mmc is working
16:42.29NetRipper:)
16:43.03cr2but we need to take care about the clocks which do have have MD, but only NS
16:43.07pH5cr2: what is the state of athena? deadlocked until asic3-mmc works?
16:43.34NetRipperbrb 5 min
16:43.49cr2pH5: not really. deadlocked, because i'm lazy to port the 2 htc-egpio chips to new api
16:44.17cr2pH5: i run the root off an usb stick anyway.
16:44.49cr2so it's better that hermes, because it really needs atiw2882-mmc
16:45.55pH5ok
16:46.21asj_xdacan I have a question?
16:46.35cr2pH5: and one chip depends on the other chip. so it's a bit tricky.
16:47.03cr2asj_xda: sure
16:47.18asj_xdais there something to test Android on desktop or connect to it on Kaiser from the desktop? just to track and trace errors?
16:47.21pH5I always run into missing asic3mmc when I sit down and update hx4700/blueangel
16:47.56cr2pH5: yeah. what was the last poky people status ?
16:48.10cr2asj_xda: i have no clue about android
16:50.05cr2NetRipper: the msm7201A clock generation and distribution are the black magic without a cpu manual
16:50.35cr2NetRipper: but we only need to control the 'OFF' clocks as they are marked in g1 code
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16:52.24pH5cr2: no clue
16:53.08pH5I guess I'll just start pushing the semiworking parts
16:53.18cr2pH5: i think they have written some patches to adapt the new sdio api, but i don't know if it ever worked
16:53.24pH5otherwise I won't ever get it done
16:53.35cr2pH5: linuxtogo ?
16:54.19cr2hmm, maybe i'll dig out the uni and test this code.
16:55.35pH5local repo. it's heavily modified to accomodate for upstream changes
16:55.59cr2ok
16:55.59pH5I'll push it to ltg, but after review on LAK
16:56.09NetRipperpH5, have you taken a look at the pastebin yet? :)
16:56.17NetRipperyou can take your time if you want though
16:56.35NetRipperwill be gone until midnight or so ;)
16:56.55cr2pH5: ok
16:58.47pH5NetRipper: just had a quick look, it is natural that the branches diverge if you rebase locally
16:59.04NetRipperpH5, ok but it's not a serious error? if i push everything should be ok?
17:01.03NetRippereh, hold on, the rebase didn't complete somehow..
17:01.16pH5if your local branch is ok the way you want it, you should replace ltg's branch with it
17:01.34NetRipperi switched to the htc-msm-2.6.27, onto which i rebased, but i dont have the rebased commits there (like instaweb does show)
17:01.37pH5because if you push, it will just try to merge them
17:01.54NetRipperok, how do i replace instead of merge?
17:02.38NetRippersimply git push --force
17:02.39NetRipper?
17:03.54NetRipperman git merge is a lot easier.. but i assume git merge will give more issues when we switch to i.e. 2.6.30 someday
17:05.37pH5not only that, but rebasing public branches is evil
17:05.49pH5not sure about push --force
17:05.54pH5I'd rust
17:06.01pH5just*
17:06.10pH5delete the remote branch firt
17:06.11miknix_ghostpush force is dangerous
17:06.26pH5(or better move it out of harm's way)
17:06.38cr2hehe. cvs was so simple :)
17:06.43pH5or consider using a new name for the rebased branch
17:06.45NetRipperso, rename it, then push a new branch?
17:06.54pH5yup
17:07.00miknix_ghostI mean.. if it is a public repo, you can throw away commits : O
17:07.03NetRippercr2, amen to that
17:07.14NetRippermiknix_ghost, true
17:07.20pH5cr2: git is easier, but for a completely different workflow
17:07.43cr2pH5: i'm just kidding :)
17:07.50pH5I just git-send-email my patches and let the tree maintainers take care of the rest ,)
17:07.57NetRipperi think i will just merge after all, and just cherry-pick when we got to a new kernel version
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17:08.23NetRippermerge went flawlessly
17:08.34NetRipperrebase too but it gives so much hassle ;)
17:08.39miknix_ghostthrows his laptop into cr2 and says - cvs???
17:08.47cr2LOL
17:09.50cr2miknix_ghost: if the kernel does not move too fast, cvs is not really a problem
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17:10.04cr2lol. his notebook didn't survive
17:10.10NetRipperlol
17:10.14pH5meh
17:10.17miknix#$%"%"#
17:10.24pH5can't git clone the linux repo on n810 due to insufficient ram
17:10.30NetRipperhehe
17:10.41miknixlol, its easier to just restart my xchat than to deghost myself
17:11.51miknixpH5, better than running portage on a wizard
17:12.02NetRipperi gtg.. got a match.. later guys
17:12.06pH5ouch :)
17:12.27pH5bye NetRipper
17:12.36NetRipperthx for your help ph5 ;)
17:12.44NetRipperhope you dont grow tired of me :P
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18:07.28morrbergHi, i have a question. the ipaq 614c is it a beetle or a sable or perhaps something else ?
18:10.48cr2something else
18:11.38morrbergah.. ok thanx.. No wonder none of them worrked..
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19:37.34imfloflohi dzo release package for vogue and kaiser why not for polaris too?
19:38.00dzobecause i don't have one.
19:41.07dzoanyway, polaris doesn't build correctly in my tree. In the end there should be only 1 package with a different default.txt for each machine.
19:42.34AstainZZZZZZdzo hi
19:43.02dzohi
19:43.47AstainZZZZZZhows the status of kaiser I saw you started working on kaiser
19:44.14dzoyes, kaiser works ok now.
19:44.37AstainZZZZZZcool whats working/not?
19:44.47dzojust needs battery and charging and a few fixes and will be usable.
19:44.57AstainZZZZZZnice
19:45.04dzoaudio work, power collapse works.
19:45.27dzowhat are you working on?
19:45.45AstainZZZZZZbeen doing what I can to help with the work on raph100 and raph800
19:46.17dzonice phones, too expensive atm though.
19:46.43dzoi'll stick to the cheap stuff.
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19:55.37AstainZZZZZZvery nice and pricey yep but not bad when you have good hookups
19:58.52cr2dzo: the main problems are not cpu-related, but writing the clean code and controlling the clocks.
19:59.22cr2well, the mddi_client_epson is going to be a pita too
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20:07.02imfloflois wifi bluetooth gps works on vogue and kaizer?
20:07.08goxboxlive_tes
20:07.42imflofloand usb ?
20:08.02goxboxlive_test
20:08.10goxboxlive_hi BabelO
20:08.15goxboxlive_are you here?
20:09.38goxboxlive_hmm the userlist has grown here.
20:14.28cr2hi goxboxlive_
20:15.24cr2goxboxlive_: is i possible to replace qtopia2 on a780 with something else ? i'd like to test the gps
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20:18.36goxboxlive_hi cr2
20:18.44goxboxlive_hmm
20:18.55goxboxlive_i have done it, but i didnt replace it
20:19.03goxboxlive_it added a dual boot system to it
20:19.32goxboxlive_and installed angstrom and qtopia 4 to it.
20:19.48goxboxlive_it's quite easy, i made a howto at the a780 wiki
20:19.57cr2ok
20:20.12cr2so gpsd can access gps now ?
20:21.16goxboxlive_cr2, hmm  dont remember
20:21.33cr2ok
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20:21.48goxboxlive_isent it the phone who is multiplexed, and the gps that is quite normal?
20:22.40goxboxlive_i have made some posts about it at motorolafans forum. I think the status of it is there. But alot might have happend since i worked on it.
20:24.07cr2gps is a mux14 channel, or something like that
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20:26.58goxboxlive_cr2, http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a780-general-chat/14308-qtopia-4-3-0-a780-openezx-2-6-23-1-kernel.html
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20:42.28cr2goxboxlive_: yes, i thought there is something more recent.
20:43.22goxboxlive_this was cool: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16826&st=90
20:44.24goxboxlive_http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a780-general-chat/22376-tomtom-working-a780.html
20:50.55cr2goxboxlive_: i don't have tomtom. making alk work on qt4 will be more fun :)
20:51.24cr2but i'm more into osm these days
20:51.50goxboxlive_cr2, ok, but it was just a info about working gps
20:53.29goxboxlive_cr2, osm?
20:54.54cr2openstreetmap
20:55.09goxboxlive_right
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20:56.21cr2ok
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21:21.56cr2hmm, where were my MD/NS values for 115200...
21:27.21cr2ok, this one
21:27.24cr2[Mi Feb 4 2009] [01:31:01] <cr2>        MD=0x2ff37 NS=0xff390b59 M=r1=0x2 N=r2=0xc8 d=r3=0x64 s0=r4=0x3 s1=r5=0x2 s2=r6=0x1 s3=r7=0xb (-0xa)
21:33.35miknixhttp://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html:
21:33.46miknixpriceless
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21:59.39cr2+0x24 seems to be an extra register
21:59.47cr2on 7201A
22:02.26cr2so the shift starts here
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22:30.47cr2aha
22:30.53cr2225         /* Set up the MREG/NREG/DREG/MNDREG */
22:30.54cr2226         ret = clk_set_rate(msm_uport->clk, uport->uartclk);
22:33.21cr2hmm
22:33.26cr292 #define UART_MREG               0x0028
22:33.27cr293 #define UART_NREG               0x002C
22:33.29cr294 #define UART_DREG               0x0030
22:33.30cr295 #define UART_MNDREG             0x0034
22:33.32cr296 #define UART_IRDA               0x0038
22:34.17cr2confusing
22:34.23cr246 #define UARTDM_DMRX_ADDR 0x34
22:34.25cr247 #define UARTDM_IRDA_ADDR 0x38
22:36.05cr2and
22:36.09cr2484         msm_write(port, 0xC0, UART_MREG);
22:36.11cr2485         msm_write(port, 0xB2, UART_NREG);
22:36.12cr2486         msm_write(port, 0x7D, UART_DREG);
22:36.14cr2487         msm_write(port, 0x1C, UART_MNDREG);
22:44.07cr2looking at these fucking numbers, i wish a GPLv4
22:44.29cr2that will force providing the hardware docs ;-)
22:52.31NetRipperyou mean the hardcoded 0xC0 etc?
22:52.31NetRipper:)
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23:05.14cr2NetRipper: yeah. i can write such pseudocode from the disassembly.
23:05.23NetRipperhehe
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23:39.25tmztdzo: why a different default.txt, should haret be able to detect the mtype?
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23:52.13tmztmiknix: why htc-omap for artemis, is silven's tree not working there yet?
23:52.38miknixtmzt, ?
23:58.44tmztmiknix: someone asked about artemis while I was away and you said to use htc-omap from ltg, I'm just wondering why not polaris
23:59.46miknixbecause we dont provide drivers for artemis?

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