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01:51.21 | lama | tmzt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431329&page=5 |
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03:00.37 | tmzt | lama: that makes no sense at all |
03:00.45 | tmzt | lama: what are they trying to do? |
03:01.27 | lama | "boot ubuntu" :P or something like that :> |
03:02.14 | tmzt | if you want to reply and direct them here we can probably help |
03:05.11 | tmzt | I'm guessing some might have the non-pxa version, like the cdma omnia but I don't know |
03:09.38 | tmzt | Omnia uses ddr, I wonder if this could be an issue or only a difference in ram init |
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03:42.44 | webPragmatist | okay i'm sorta new to android / htc-linux... when a forum says set APC settings... where am I going to get to that? |
03:42.51 | webPragmatist | sorry for such an annoying question |
03:50.06 | webPragmatist | okay i found it no clue what to put heh |
03:55.56 | webPragmatist | okay nm got it :) |
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04:07.35 | tmzt | webPragmatist: no idea what you are asking, what is APC? |
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04:15.54 | webPragmatist | APN... i'm tired ignore me |
04:15.54 | webPragmatist | anyone have Android2-1.zip |
04:15.54 | webPragmatist | from htc forums |
04:15.54 | tmzt | for what device? |
04:15.55 | webPragmatist | kaiser |
04:16.10 | webPragmatist | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=470649 |
04:16.18 | webPragmatist | should be from http://slackthebox.com/android/Android2-1.zip |
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06:20.15 | AndyCR | I know this isn't strictly on-topic, but perhaps you will be interested and maybe even provide me with advice on what to do. |
06:21.08 | AndyCR | HTC used FreeImage in TouchFlo3D. Under its license, you must provide the modified source code. I'm trying to use it on a Touch Pro, but without the modifications it'll be awhile porting it. They are obligated by law to provide it. |
06:21.21 | AndyCR | I've contacted them 3 times, and they never get back to me after speaking with one or two people. |
06:22.47 | maejrep | they're only obligated to provide what modifications were made *to* freeimage, not the code for what they did *with* it |
06:23.14 | AndyCR | Exactly. I would like the modifications of FreeImage itself so I can use it in projects I'm working on. |
06:26.08 | AndyCR | It's frustrating to me, since I know they should provide it, and FreeImage is exactly suited to what I need to do (load JPEG/PNG, rescale in memory, resave to disk). |
06:27.03 | maejrep | your first contact should probably be to the makers of freeimage then |
06:27.23 | maejrep | they'd probably be able to tell you what you should do, and might even help you do so |
06:28.02 | maejrep | but if freeimage is what you need, why can't you just use freeimage as it is? |
06:28.39 | AndyCR | No, to compile for Windows Mobile it needs quite a few changes, it doesn't work as-is and I've spent quite awhile porting it but there's still a great deal that doesn't compile. |
06:30.08 | AndyCR | I've never done a port of a library to a phone platform before, either, and I'm new to Windows Mobile programming, so I don't know what they changed from the normal Win32 api |
06:30.23 | AndyCR | So every time something simple doesn't compile right, I have to look it up instead of just knowing what the equivalent is. |
06:32.50 | AndyCR | I guess I should just call again, and if I don't get anywhere contact the FreeImage people. |
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12:15.37 | shikigami | the actual diamond release of HaRET only works with DIAM100 right? |
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13:06.12 | a | Hi |
13:18.07 | Pure4Real | hi |
13:18.27 | asj_xda | :) |
13:24.42 | opennandra | hi what could be problem if my kernel stops after some one line of while dots (efb) ? |
13:24.51 | opennandra | *white |
13:27.27 | Pure4Real | asj: do you have a linux server somewhere with a root console? |
13:27.49 | asj_xda | yes, why you ask? |
13:28.26 | Pure4Real | i saw on the forum for kaiser android that you want to automate a daily build of the kernel |
13:28.38 | Pure4Real | i could help you with it, i think i can do it |
13:29.00 | asj_xda | Yep, I was thinking about that, but well.. I am not sure if it was generally taken as a good idea :D |
13:29.21 | asj_xda | anyway the most important thing would be IMHO some dev and issue tracking |
13:29.32 | Pure4Real | yes |
13:29.54 | asj_xda | cause now, what the hell, who can still know who is testing what :D I am lost in the XDA thread |
13:29.56 | asj_xda | :D |
13:30.30 | Pure4Real | yeah, so i think we need one person who can skim the thread and collect all the information about the different builds |
13:30.50 | Pure4Real | and then we need a page where people can post their trouble with new builds |
13:31.05 | Pure4Real | or we need the existing thread for that |
13:31.24 | asj_xda | yes, that was my idea from the start, but as you can see, in general it was not accepted |
13:31.44 | asj_xda | saying that noone would use it and threat seriously anyway :( |
13:33.04 | asj_xda | give me a second, I'll go for some cigs in the shop. BRB |
13:33.11 | Pure4Real | ok |
13:37.44 | Pure4Real | asj: when you get back, check my pm |
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13:45.09 | Fjodor | Hi guys! I'm trying out linux on my artemis, but since neither sound, wifi nor gsm is working, I'd like to hear if a more recent kernel has support for any of those and where to get it? |
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13:46.56 | asj_xda | No WiFi |
13:47.24 | asj_xda | but AFAIK all the others should work on Kaiser and/or simmilar devices |
13:47.50 | Fjodor | Interesting! Where do I get the relevant kernel sources? |
13:48.20 | asj_xda | XDA user? |
13:49.07 | Fjodor | ? I got the initial setup that I tried from a link on xda-developers.com, but I haven't registered yet |
13:53.53 | asj_xda | IMHO you cannot download attachements without signing in, and it is there posted in Kaiser Android thread |
13:54.13 | Fjodor | Ok, thank you very much! |
13:56.25 | asj_xda | you're welcome.. :) |
14:03.29 | pH5 | Fjodor: afaik artemis is omap850, not msm72k? BabelO or the linwizard guys should have all the details there. |
14:04.56 | Fjodor | pH5: Ok, thanks. One guy at #linwizard referred me to you guys and BabelO too, so I hope to hear from him at some point in time :_) |
14:04.59 | Fjodor | :-), that is |
14:05.54 | asj_xda | Well... dunno what is the chip in Artemiss, but if it is different, than IMHO that would not work with the files for Kaiser |
14:05.56 | Fjodor | I cloned the htc-omap kernel tree from linuxtogo, but I can't seem to find a defconfig for the artemis, so I'm a little lost... |
14:06.50 | Fjodor | It is indeed an omap850, so no, the Kaiser thing probably wouldn't work afterall if that's an msm72k. Thanks anyway, though |
14:08.40 | pH5 | Fjodor: yes, the ltg htc-omap branch is all I know about, too. BabelO should be able to help you. |
14:09.38 | Fjodor | pH5: Ok, thanks! I'll hang around and see if he's responding. Otherwise I'll catch him tomorrow or something |
14:23.23 | miknix | Fjodor, use the wizard defconfig and then enable artmis specific drivers |
14:24.18 | Fjodor | Ah, I just found out that I didn't get the htc-omap tree afterall, which is why there wasn't a defconfig file. What would the correct git command be to get that? |
14:24.36 | miknix | did you fetch? |
14:24.56 | miknix | git checkout -b htc-omap origin/htc-omap |
14:26.07 | Fjodor | So just a normal git-clone for tree, and then that checkout command? |
14:26.32 | miknix | yes |
14:27.26 | Fjodor | miknix: Excellent. I got a bit ahead of myself and deleted the tree, so I need to re-clone it but thanks a lot :-) |
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15:26.20 | dcordes_ | somebody knows where to get special cables and connectoers in germany or eu? I'm looking for a wired ipod female connector or ipod connector breakout board |
15:29.34 | miknix_ghost | dcordes_, farnell |
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16:21.13 | pH5 | hi cr2 |
16:22.32 | NetRipper | hi ph5 |
16:23.32 | pH5 | hi NetRipper |
16:24.36 | NetRipper | pH5, i have rebased htc-msm-2.6.27 locally, but end up with a few warnings, would you mind taking a look at the commands i executed? i'll leave you ap astebin in query |
16:28.29 | cr2 | hi |
16:29.04 | cr2 | i've bought 2 2GB sodimms today for nc10 and my notebook |
16:29.54 | cr2 | and have realized that i've completely lost track on the desktop cpu/ram et al. development |
16:30.45 | NetRipper | hehe |
16:30.46 | NetRipper | hi cr2 |
16:31.02 | cr2 | hi NetRipper |
16:31.02 | NetRipper | yep desktop stuff went really fast ;) |
16:31.18 | cr2 | what are you going to hack today ? :) |
16:31.25 | asj_xda | :) |
16:31.35 | asj_xda | hi guys |
16:31.43 | NetRipper | cr2, i've committed your clock divisor thingies |
16:32.08 | cr2 | NetRipper: ok, and the kernel still works ? :) |
16:32.11 | NetRipper | yes |
16:32.12 | cr2 | hi asj_xda |
16:32.14 | cr2 | ok |
16:32.21 | pH5 | is shopping for a second 4GB, too. things went insanely cheap |
16:32.34 | NetRipper | i think i first want to make android work properly on it, like the .25 kernel was working |
16:33.18 | cr2 | pH5: i've seen cpu+mb+6GB of some ram = 649⬠|
16:33.21 | cr2 | not that cheap |
16:33.31 | NetRipper | the i7? |
16:33.45 | cr2 | yes. wtf is that ? |
16:33.52 | NetRipper | it's the newest intel core |
16:34.08 | NetRipper | with a new socket |
16:34.11 | cr2 | 64bit ? |
16:34.23 | NetRipper | nah the core 2 stuff is 64 bit already |
16:34.29 | cr2 | ok |
16:34.34 | NetRipper | the i7 has the memory controller in the processor now |
16:34.42 | NetRipper | which removes the front side bus |
16:34.47 | cr2 | i have only atom and pxa . from intel |
16:35.18 | NetRipper | they moved to socket 1366, while the core 2's were socket 775 |
16:36.04 | cr2 | hehe. 21066 |
16:36.25 | NetRipper | er? |
16:36.26 | NetRipper | :) |
16:36.52 | cr2 | and it's still the same x86 ? |
16:37.05 | NetRipper | it's 64bit, but still supports x86 yes |
16:37.08 | NetRipper | afaik |
16:37.12 | cr2 | http://www.silirium.ru/dec-alpha-21066.html |
16:37.30 | NetRipper | aha |
16:37.44 | NetRipper | alpha |
16:38.04 | cr2 | yeah, 13 years ago :) |
16:38.09 | NetRipper | hehe |
16:38.17 | NetRipper | they'd better wait for the beta |
16:38.17 | NetRipper | ;) |
16:39.40 | cr2 | NetRipper: the clock file will need a lot of refactoring |
16:40.04 | cr2 | i don't know why htc does not use dex for clock control (the api is there) |
16:40.05 | NetRipper | it primarily needs adding to... to support other clocks |
16:40.18 | cr2 | so we have no other chance, but to follow their code |
16:40.25 | cr2 | yes |
16:40.37 | cr2 | the sdcc_* may be changed to mdns_* |
16:40.52 | NetRipper | what's mdns mean? |
16:41.02 | cr2 | because it's not really sdcc specific |
16:41.18 | NetRipper | oh, md/ns |
16:41.26 | cr2 | it's the 4+(=7) settings |
16:41.53 | cr2 | multiplier,duty,divisor and some other weird 's' settings |
16:42.05 | NetRipper | aha |
16:42.28 | NetRipper | i never really got how clocks work.. so im just glad mmc is working |
16:42.29 | NetRipper | :) |
16:43.03 | cr2 | but we need to take care about the clocks which do have have MD, but only NS |
16:43.07 | pH5 | cr2: what is the state of athena? deadlocked until asic3-mmc works? |
16:43.34 | NetRipper | brb 5 min |
16:43.49 | cr2 | pH5: not really. deadlocked, because i'm lazy to port the 2 htc-egpio chips to new api |
16:44.17 | cr2 | pH5: i run the root off an usb stick anyway. |
16:44.49 | cr2 | so it's better that hermes, because it really needs atiw2882-mmc |
16:45.55 | pH5 | ok |
16:46.21 | asj_xda | can I have a question? |
16:46.35 | cr2 | pH5: and one chip depends on the other chip. so it's a bit tricky. |
16:47.03 | cr2 | asj_xda: sure |
16:47.18 | asj_xda | is there something to test Android on desktop or connect to it on Kaiser from the desktop? just to track and trace errors? |
16:47.21 | pH5 | I always run into missing asic3mmc when I sit down and update hx4700/blueangel |
16:47.56 | cr2 | pH5: yeah. what was the last poky people status ? |
16:48.10 | cr2 | asj_xda: i have no clue about android |
16:50.05 | cr2 | NetRipper: the msm7201A clock generation and distribution are the black magic without a cpu manual |
16:50.35 | cr2 | NetRipper: but we only need to control the 'OFF' clocks as they are marked in g1 code |
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16:52.24 | pH5 | cr2: no clue |
16:53.08 | pH5 | I guess I'll just start pushing the semiworking parts |
16:53.18 | cr2 | pH5: i think they have written some patches to adapt the new sdio api, but i don't know if it ever worked |
16:53.24 | pH5 | otherwise I won't ever get it done |
16:53.35 | cr2 | pH5: linuxtogo ? |
16:54.19 | cr2 | hmm, maybe i'll dig out the uni and test this code. |
16:55.35 | pH5 | local repo. it's heavily modified to accomodate for upstream changes |
16:55.59 | cr2 | ok |
16:55.59 | pH5 | I'll push it to ltg, but after review on LAK |
16:56.09 | NetRipper | pH5, have you taken a look at the pastebin yet? :) |
16:56.17 | NetRipper | you can take your time if you want though |
16:56.35 | NetRipper | will be gone until midnight or so ;) |
16:56.55 | cr2 | pH5: ok |
16:58.47 | pH5 | NetRipper: just had a quick look, it is natural that the branches diverge if you rebase locally |
16:59.04 | NetRipper | pH5, ok but it's not a serious error? if i push everything should be ok? |
17:01.03 | NetRipper | eh, hold on, the rebase didn't complete somehow.. |
17:01.16 | pH5 | if your local branch is ok the way you want it, you should replace ltg's branch with it |
17:01.34 | NetRipper | i switched to the htc-msm-2.6.27, onto which i rebased, but i dont have the rebased commits there (like instaweb does show) |
17:01.37 | pH5 | because if you push, it will just try to merge them |
17:01.54 | NetRipper | ok, how do i replace instead of merge? |
17:02.38 | NetRipper | simply git push --force |
17:02.39 | NetRipper | ? |
17:03.54 | NetRipper | man git merge is a lot easier.. but i assume git merge will give more issues when we switch to i.e. 2.6.30 someday |
17:05.37 | pH5 | not only that, but rebasing public branches is evil |
17:05.49 | pH5 | not sure about push --force |
17:05.54 | pH5 | I'd rust |
17:06.01 | pH5 | just* |
17:06.10 | pH5 | delete the remote branch firt |
17:06.11 | miknix_ghost | push force is dangerous |
17:06.26 | pH5 | (or better move it out of harm's way) |
17:06.38 | cr2 | hehe. cvs was so simple :) |
17:06.43 | pH5 | or consider using a new name for the rebased branch |
17:06.45 | NetRipper | so, rename it, then push a new branch? |
17:06.54 | pH5 | yup |
17:07.00 | miknix_ghost | I mean.. if it is a public repo, you can throw away commits : O |
17:07.03 | NetRipper | cr2, amen to that |
17:07.14 | NetRipper | miknix_ghost, true |
17:07.20 | pH5 | cr2: git is easier, but for a completely different workflow |
17:07.43 | cr2 | pH5: i'm just kidding :) |
17:07.50 | pH5 | I just git-send-email my patches and let the tree maintainers take care of the rest ,) |
17:07.57 | NetRipper | i think i will just merge after all, and just cherry-pick when we got to a new kernel version |
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17:08.23 | NetRipper | merge went flawlessly |
17:08.34 | NetRipper | rebase too but it gives so much hassle ;) |
17:08.39 | miknix_ghost | throws his laptop into cr2 and says - cvs??? |
17:08.47 | cr2 | LOL |
17:09.50 | cr2 | miknix_ghost: if the kernel does not move too fast, cvs is not really a problem |
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17:10.04 | cr2 | lol. his notebook didn't survive |
17:10.10 | NetRipper | lol |
17:10.14 | pH5 | meh |
17:10.17 | miknix | #$%"%"# |
17:10.24 | pH5 | can't git clone the linux repo on n810 due to insufficient ram |
17:10.30 | NetRipper | hehe |
17:10.41 | miknix | lol, its easier to just restart my xchat than to deghost myself |
17:11.51 | miknix | pH5, better than running portage on a wizard |
17:12.02 | NetRipper | i gtg.. got a match.. later guys |
17:12.06 | pH5 | ouch :) |
17:12.27 | pH5 | bye NetRipper |
17:12.36 | NetRipper | thx for your help ph5 ;) |
17:12.44 | NetRipper | hope you dont grow tired of me :P |
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18:07.28 | morrberg | Hi, i have a question. the ipaq 614c is it a beetle or a sable or perhaps something else ? |
18:10.48 | cr2 | something else |
18:11.38 | morrberg | ah.. ok thanx.. No wonder none of them worrked.. |
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19:37.34 | imfloflo | hi dzo release package for vogue and kaiser why not for polaris too? |
19:38.00 | dzo | because i don't have one. |
19:41.07 | dzo | anyway, polaris doesn't build correctly in my tree. In the end there should be only 1 package with a different default.txt for each machine. |
19:42.34 | AstainZZZZZZ | dzo hi |
19:43.02 | dzo | hi |
19:43.47 | AstainZZZZZZ | hows the status of kaiser I saw you started working on kaiser |
19:44.14 | dzo | yes, kaiser works ok now. |
19:44.37 | AstainZZZZZZ | cool whats working/not? |
19:44.47 | dzo | just needs battery and charging and a few fixes and will be usable. |
19:44.57 | AstainZZZZZZ | nice |
19:45.04 | dzo | audio work, power collapse works. |
19:45.27 | dzo | what are you working on? |
19:45.45 | AstainZZZZZZ | been doing what I can to help with the work on raph100 and raph800 |
19:46.17 | dzo | nice phones, too expensive atm though. |
19:46.43 | dzo | i'll stick to the cheap stuff. |
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19:55.37 | AstainZZZZZZ | very nice and pricey yep but not bad when you have good hookups |
19:58.52 | cr2 | dzo: the main problems are not cpu-related, but writing the clean code and controlling the clocks. |
19:59.22 | cr2 | well, the mddi_client_epson is going to be a pita too |
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20:07.02 | imfloflo | is wifi bluetooth gps works on vogue and kaizer? |
20:07.08 | goxboxlive_ | tes |
20:07.42 | imfloflo | and usb ? |
20:08.02 | goxboxlive_ | test |
20:08.10 | goxboxlive_ | hi BabelO |
20:08.15 | goxboxlive_ | are you here? |
20:09.38 | goxboxlive_ | hmm the userlist has grown here. |
20:14.28 | cr2 | hi goxboxlive_ |
20:15.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: is i possible to replace qtopia2 on a780 with something else ? i'd like to test the gps |
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20:18.36 | goxboxlive_ | hi cr2 |
20:18.44 | goxboxlive_ | hmm |
20:18.55 | goxboxlive_ | i have done it, but i didnt replace it |
20:19.03 | goxboxlive_ | it added a dual boot system to it |
20:19.32 | goxboxlive_ | and installed angstrom and qtopia 4 to it. |
20:19.48 | goxboxlive_ | it's quite easy, i made a howto at the a780 wiki |
20:19.57 | cr2 | ok |
20:20.12 | cr2 | so gpsd can access gps now ? |
20:21.16 | goxboxlive_ | cr2, hmm dont remember |
20:21.33 | cr2 | ok |
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20:21.48 | goxboxlive_ | isent it the phone who is multiplexed, and the gps that is quite normal? |
20:22.40 | goxboxlive_ | i have made some posts about it at motorolafans forum. I think the status of it is there. But alot might have happend since i worked on it. |
20:24.07 | cr2 | gps is a mux14 channel, or something like that |
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20:25.32 | goxboxlive_ | right |
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20:26.58 | goxboxlive_ | cr2, http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a780-general-chat/14308-qtopia-4-3-0-a780-openezx-2-6-23-1-kernel.html |
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20:42.28 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: yes, i thought there is something more recent. |
20:43.22 | goxboxlive_ | this was cool: http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=16826&st=90 |
20:44.24 | goxboxlive_ | http://www.motorolafans.com/forums/a780-general-chat/22376-tomtom-working-a780.html |
20:50.55 | cr2 | goxboxlive_: i don't have tomtom. making alk work on qt4 will be more fun :) |
20:51.24 | cr2 | but i'm more into osm these days |
20:51.50 | goxboxlive_ | cr2, ok, but it was just a info about working gps |
20:53.29 | goxboxlive_ | cr2, osm? |
20:54.54 | cr2 | openstreetmap |
20:55.09 | goxboxlive_ | right |
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20:56.21 | cr2 | ok |
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21:21.56 | cr2 | hmm, where were my MD/NS values for 115200... |
21:27.21 | cr2 | ok, this one |
21:27.24 | cr2 | [Mi Feb 4 2009] [01:31:01] <cr2> MD=0x2ff37 NS=0xff390b59 M=r1=0x2 N=r2=0xc8 d=r3=0x64 s0=r4=0x3 s1=r5=0x2 s2=r6=0x1 s3=r7=0xb (-0xa) |
21:33.35 | miknix | http://www.break.com/index/it-guy-vs-dumb-employees.html: |
21:33.46 | miknix | priceless |
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21:59.39 | cr2 | +0x24 seems to be an extra register |
21:59.47 | cr2 | on 7201A |
22:02.26 | cr2 | so the shift starts here |
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22:30.47 | cr2 | aha |
22:30.53 | cr2 | 225 /* Set up the MREG/NREG/DREG/MNDREG */ |
22:30.54 | cr2 | 226 ret = clk_set_rate(msm_uport->clk, uport->uartclk); |
22:33.21 | cr2 | hmm |
22:33.26 | cr2 | 92 #define UART_MREG 0x0028 |
22:33.27 | cr2 | 93 #define UART_NREG 0x002C |
22:33.29 | cr2 | 94 #define UART_DREG 0x0030 |
22:33.30 | cr2 | 95 #define UART_MNDREG 0x0034 |
22:33.32 | cr2 | 96 #define UART_IRDA 0x0038 |
22:34.17 | cr2 | confusing |
22:34.23 | cr2 | 46 #define UARTDM_DMRX_ADDR 0x34 |
22:34.25 | cr2 | 47 #define UARTDM_IRDA_ADDR 0x38 |
22:36.05 | cr2 | and |
22:36.09 | cr2 | 484 msm_write(port, 0xC0, UART_MREG); |
22:36.11 | cr2 | 485 msm_write(port, 0xB2, UART_NREG); |
22:36.12 | cr2 | 486 msm_write(port, 0x7D, UART_DREG); |
22:36.14 | cr2 | 487 msm_write(port, 0x1C, UART_MNDREG); |
22:44.07 | cr2 | looking at these fucking numbers, i wish a GPLv4 |
22:44.29 | cr2 | that will force providing the hardware docs ;-) |
22:52.31 | NetRipper | you mean the hardcoded 0xC0 etc? |
22:52.31 | NetRipper | :) |
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23:05.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: yeah. i can write such pseudocode from the disassembly. |
23:05.23 | NetRipper | hehe |
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23:39.25 | tmzt | dzo: why a different default.txt, should haret be able to detect the mtype? |
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23:52.13 | tmzt | miknix: why htc-omap for artemis, is silven's tree not working there yet? |
23:52.38 | miknix | tmzt, ? |
23:58.44 | tmzt | miknix: someone asked about artemis while I was away and you said to use htc-omap from ltg, I'm just wondering why not polaris |
23:59.46 | miknix | because we dont provide drivers for artemis? |