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| 04:43.05 | keyhive | Not to sound rude, but has any progress been made on a linux bootloader free of HaRET? |
| 05:16.35 | parmaster | a bootloader is a boatloader, is a bootloader? |
| 05:17.03 | parmaster | do you mean replacing the native bootloader to boot linux on the device? |
| 05:37.29 | maejrep | keyhive: don't expect anyone here to make any progress on such a thing for any of our devices. if you want it that bad, then you need to risk your own device and work on it yourself |
| 05:38.19 | maejrep | haret works just fine for most people, so no one is going to go through the trouble or the risk to accomplish it until the hardware is working 100% in linux, and that is not here yet |
| 05:40.21 | maejrep | it's hard enough to get linux working at all on our devices. let alone making linux the only OS available |
| 05:50.08 | BHSPitMonkey | keyhive, EOL |
| 05:50.28 | BHSPitMonkey | works on the Wizard and several other phones |
| 05:51.36 | parmaster | thats the one BabelO was using on the artemis... |
| 05:51.51 | parmaster | i think its also the same as we were using to boot the BA a long time ago |
| 05:52.01 | BHSPitMonkey | it's the one they use to boot linwizard. |
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| 09:54.34 | opennandra | tmzt: hi still no success it seems efb is working (can see increased white pixel during startup) |
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| 11:22.54 | opennandra | anyone try port linux on htc oxygen? |
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| 13:10.34 | rewpparo | Hello everyone |
| 13:11.08 | rewpparo | I'm trying to compile a kernel for my Blackstone, I was wondering if anyone could give me a hand |
| 13:12.22 | rewpparo | The kernels I compile seem to lock haret when loading bar reaches 100% |
| 13:14.30 | opennandra | hmm strange which haret version? |
| 13:14.56 | rewpparo | latest from the haret website |
| 13:15.12 | dcordes_ | are you using htc-msm-2.6.27 branch? |
| 13:15.34 | dcordes_ | did you boot with some rootfs? |
| 13:15.41 | opennandra | hmm I don't have blackstone but oxygen |
| 13:15.52 | opennandra | what cpu it has? |
| 13:16.37 | opennandra | are you using zImage? |
| 13:17.05 | rewpparo | the kernel I use is this one git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 13:17.12 | rewpparo | as it says on the wiki |
| 13:17.18 | rewpparo | I use zImage |
| 13:17.35 | opennandra | hmm it's strange |
| 13:17.43 | opennandra | maybee you pda is not supported |
| 13:17.52 | opennandra | you can see it in haretlog.txt |
| 13:17.54 | rewpparo | processor is QUALCOMM 7201A @528MHz |
| 13:18.19 | rewpparo | haret doesn't give me a log |
| 13:18.21 | opennandra | create in dir where you have haret file earlyharetlog.txt |
| 13:18.32 | rewpparo | ok |
| 13:18.36 | opennandra | and then run haret |
| 13:18.49 | opennandra | file should appear |
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| 13:25.20 | rewpparo | ok I got the log |
| 13:25.21 | rewpparo | http://rafb.net/p/8gY06N88.html |
| 13:26.07 | rewpparo | there's a line "Looking at machine Blackstone" |
| 13:26.15 | rewpparo | but it just continues the list after that |
| 13:26.49 | opennandra | yes |
| 13:27.03 | opennandra | hmm from haret thats all what you can see |
| 13:27.27 | opennandra | it seems haret load kernel and then control is put to kernel |
| 13:27.27 | rewpparo | shouldn't it say something, like "Looking at machine Blackstone.... Yup that's the one !" |
| 13:27.39 | opennandra | hmm maybee not |
| 13:28.04 | opennandra | exist some linuxport to device like you have or similar? |
| 13:28.20 | rewpparo | Raphael seems to work fine |
| 13:28.36 | opennandra | you could try that image |
| 13:28.40 | rewpparo | and a guy managed to get to a point where you can see a distorded console on the screen |
| 13:29.16 | rewpparo | I tried the one with the distorded image, I get the same, but what I'd like to do is be able to compile my own that would get me to that point |
| 13:29.38 | rewpparo | but I'm new to kernel development and to cross compiling, I'm hoping to get started |
| 13:29.57 | opennandra | hmm maybe you kernel is not good |
| 13:30.01 | opennandra | where do you get from> |
| 13:30.02 | opennandra | ? |
| 13:32.33 | rewpparo | checking the exact place |
| 13:33.28 | rewpparo | This is the exact place |
| 13:33.29 | rewpparo | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.25 |
| 13:33.49 | rewpparo | it's the one recommanded on arm.linux.org for blackstone |
| 13:35.46 | opennandra | ok what .config you are using |
| 13:35.51 | opennandra | some defconfig? |
| 13:36.37 | rewpparo | I tried with a htcblackstone_defconfig I found in the tutorial and the supplied one for raphael |
| 13:36.41 | rewpparo | both do the same |
| 13:36.59 | rewpparo | I'm using this tutorial : http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlackstoneLinux |
| 13:38.24 | opennandra | did you use all patches |
| 13:38.33 | opennandra | and patching was without errors? |
| 13:38.59 | rewpparo | I couldn't pply the whole diff file provided in the tutorial |
| 13:39.04 | rewpparo | *apply |
| 13:39.28 | rewpparo | but I think it only changes screen resolution |
| 13:39.47 | opennandra | ok did you see something on screen? |
| 13:39.57 | rewpparo | yes there was errors |
| 13:40.02 | rewpparo | in the diff |
| 13:40.24 | rewpparo | but the compiling was without error if I use only the config file |
| 13:40.39 | opennandra | ok |
| 13:40.49 | rewpparo | few warnings though, mainly "declared but not use", I thought that was normal |
| 13:41.13 | opennandra | could you try make mrproper ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE=your-toolchain |
| 13:41.22 | rewpparo | I will |
| 13:41.24 | opennandra | and compile again |
| 13:41.41 | opennandra | make zImage ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- |
| 13:41.48 | rewpparo | thx |
| 13:45.28 | rewpparo | make: *** No rule to make target « include/config/auto.conf », needed for « include/asm-arm/.arch ». Stop. |
| 13:45.40 | rewpparo | I don't really understand what I'm doing here |
| 13:46.09 | rewpparo | *** You have not yet configured your kernel! |
| 13:46.09 | rewpparo | *** (missing kernel .config file) |
| 13:46.21 | opennandra | ok |
| 13:46.31 | opennandra | mrproper clean everything in kernel |
| 13:46.39 | rewpparo | ok |
| 13:46.43 | opennandra | run make htc....defconfig |
| 13:46.49 | rewpparo | I started from clean tarball anyways |
| 13:46.55 | rewpparo | ok |
| 13:47.05 | rewpparo | make htcblackstone_defconfig ARCH=arm |
| 13:47.10 | opennandra | yes |
| 13:47.23 | opennandra | it will copy htcblackstone_defconfig to .config |
| 13:47.28 | opennandra | then compile |
| 13:47.34 | opennandra | make zImage ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi- |
| 13:48.03 | rewpparo | that is what I've been doing before |
| 13:48.11 | rewpparo | building |
| 13:49.06 | opennandra | yes |
| 13:49.31 | opennandra | just to be sure it's not something related to compilation ;) |
| 13:49.40 | rewpparo | good thinking :) |
| 13:51.32 | opennandra | ;) |
| 13:53.14 | rewpparo | Kernel: arch/arm/boot/zImage is ready |
| 13:53.27 | opennandra | ok try to copy |
| 13:53.44 | opennandra | and add to default.txt line : root=/dev/ram0 |
| 13:55.20 | rewpparo | I've got the angstrom intrd given in default, is that not enough ? |
| 13:56.22 | opennandra | ok get rid of /dev/ram0 |
| 13:56.23 | opennandra | ;) |
| 13:56.27 | rewpparo | ok :) |
| 13:56.27 | opennandra | just try to run it |
| 13:57.02 | rewpparo | I have the Go Go Go message |
| 13:57.12 | rewpparo | but it hangs at 100% again |
| 13:57.37 | opennandra | strange so you still see haret screen? |
| 13:57.44 | rewpparo | yes |
| 13:57.57 | opennandra | hmm so this could be question to haret mailing list |
| 13:58.28 | opennandra | or you can try remove from default.txt all RAM settings |
| 13:58.39 | rewpparo | ok I'll try this |
| 14:00.07 | rewpparo | there's a command line passed to the kernel : "mem=76M" should I get rid of that one too ? |
| 14:01.40 | rewpparo | still the same if I keep that line |
| 14:02.41 | opennandra | you can try remove also mem |
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| 14:02.59 | opennandra | and try root=/dev/ram0 |
| 14:04.11 | rewpparo | no change with the mem line removed |
| 14:04.23 | rewpparo | trying with ram0 |
| 14:04.35 | rewpparo | it's an actual Haret line right, not a kernel parameter ? |
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| 14:07.04 | opennandra | it a kernel parameter |
| 14:07.09 | rewpparo | ok |
| 14:07.44 | rewpparo | no change |
| 14:07.51 | rewpparo | Do I have a way to get a kernel log ? |
| 14:08.01 | rewpparo | see what's wrong with it ? |
| 14:09.03 | opennandra | hmm I think not |
| 14:09.21 | opennandra | if haret is not finished you have no chance to get kernel log |
| 14:09.29 | opennandra | write to haret mailing list |
| 14:09.47 | opennandra | <haret@handhelds.org>, |
| 14:09.52 | opennandra | describe problem |
| 14:09.52 | rewpparo | I thought you said Haret was finished when we looked at the log |
| 14:10.29 | opennandra | it is but after that you should see black screen with small white font and see message Jumping to kernel |
| 14:10.39 | opennandra | if you don't have this |
| 14:10.40 | opennandra | ... |
| 14:10.48 | rewpparo | ok, I'll try the mailing list then |
| 14:10.55 | opennandra | ok |
| 14:11.19 | rewpparo | Thanks a lot for your time, at least I know I'm not doing any major mistake in my kernel compilation |
| 14:12.24 | opennandra | ;) no problem |
| 14:12.30 | opennandra | good luck with hacking ;) |
| 14:12.45 | rewpparo | thanks :) |
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| 15:10.20 | tmzt | lama: sorry, been off/away |
| 15:11.18 | tmzt | config looks fine |
| 15:11.46 | tmzt | it's better to work here so people can help/answer questions |
| 15:13.55 | lama | ok |
| 15:14.06 | lama | so if anyone is interested |
| 15:15.30 | lama | first attempt to boot linux on samsung i780 PXA311 phone with 320x320 screen |
| 15:15.40 | tmzt | what does it do when you boot with haret? |
| 15:15.51 | lama | http://pastebin.com/mb0387e7 RAMADDR 0x1000000 set MTYPE 1233 set KERNEL zImage bootlinux |
| 15:16.07 | tmzt | did you try without the RAMADDR? |
| 15:16.20 | tmzt | cmonex: that's not the right RAMADDR for pxa3xx is it? |
| 15:16.40 | tmzt | start of ram I mean |
| 15:16.41 | lama | haret starts |
| 15:16.53 | lama | and ends with Jumping to Kernel |
| 15:17.08 | tmzt | then blank? |
| 15:17.12 | lama | no |
| 15:17.20 | tmzt | try without RAMADDR |
| 15:17.24 | lama | Jumping to Kernels stays on screen |
| 15:17.32 | tmzt | sorry, by blank I mean it stays like it was, yes |
| 15:17.40 | tmzt | I mean linux doesn't do anything to the screen |
| 15:17.44 | lama | no |
| 15:18.07 | tmzt | ok, what then? |
| 15:18.11 | lama | or maybe there is black penguin on black background :) |
| 15:18.19 | lama | I have to do soft reset |
| 15:18.21 | lama | that is all |
| 15:18.27 | lama | I will try without RAMADDR now |
| 15:18.35 | tmzt | not likely unless your palet is wrong then you would have nothing on the screen |
| 15:18.38 | tmzt | ok |
| 15:18.45 | tmzt | can't spell that word |
| 15:19.27 | lama | without RAMADDR there is haret error :) |
| 15:19.34 | tmzt | what error? |
| 15:19.39 | lama | please set start of ram (RAMADDR) :P |
| 15:19.49 | tmzt | ah, it can't detect your cpu |
| 15:19.53 | tmzt | try 0x10000000 |
| 15:21.09 | lama | same thing |
| 15:21.15 | lama | I think I was using it |
| 15:21.27 | lama | above might be typo without one 0 |
| 15:21.57 | lama | I mean here what I have reported on irc I could typed it wrong |
| 15:22.50 | tmzt | check memory.h I think in arch/arm/mach-pxa/include |
| 15:23.59 | lama | Haret boot |
| 15:23.59 | lama | Shuting down hardware |
| 15:23.59 | lama | turning off MMU |
| 15:23.59 | lama | In preloader |
| 15:23.59 | lama | PSR=6000000df |
| 15:24.01 | lama | Tags relocated |
| 15:24.04 | lama | Kernel relocated |
| 15:24.07 | lama | Initrd relocated |
| 15:24.09 | lama | Jumping to kernel |
| 15:27.20 | tmzt | did you find the header? |
| 15:28.10 | lama | I'm not yet on the right machine with linux sources |
| 15:28.36 | lama | have to turn it on and start VM :) |
| 15:28.43 | tmzt | that's ok, hold on |
| 15:29.35 | tmzt | 0xA0000000 |
| 15:29.57 | tmzt | RAMADDR |
| 15:32.20 | lama | yup |
| 15:32.21 | lama | work |
| 15:32.23 | lama | s |
| 15:32.25 | lama | \x/ |
| 15:32.27 | tmzt | display? |
| 15:32.33 | lama | penguin! :P |
| 15:32.47 | lama | ands with unable to mount root fs! |
| 15:33.01 | tmzt | does it detect an sd card? |
| 15:33.53 | lama | on unknwn-block(2,0) |
| 15:34.04 | tmzt | ramdisk |
| 15:34.20 | lama | not everything is perfect on the screen btw, I can make a picture |
| 15:34.28 | lama | how can I check if it detects sd |
| 15:34.33 | tmzt | that's ok |
| 15:34.35 | lama | is dmesg written somewhere? |
| 15:34.39 | tmzt | did you put the timings we dumped in? |
| 15:34.44 | lama | no |
| 15:34.44 | tmzt | on the screen |
| 15:34.58 | tmzt | when you get your vm put those timings in and let's try it |
| 15:35.16 | tmzt | I think in zylonite.c pxafb pdata |
| 15:35.21 | lama | i'm impressed |
| 15:35.28 | lama | thanks for your help :P |
| 15:35.36 | lama | wait i will make picture first :P |
| 15:36.12 | tmzt | now we need someone with gsm omnia |
| 15:36.37 | tmzt | but this should work, you need to trace some gpios (mostly sd) |
| 15:36.39 | lama | ask someone on #xda-devs |
| 15:36.57 | tmzt | can you paste a .zip somewhere? |
| 15:37.25 | lama | yes |
| 15:37.35 | tmzt | and then we can get a keymap made for it and a board |
| 15:37.42 | lama | but I need some time to all thoese things :P |
| 15:37.42 | tmzt | for i780 |
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| 16:01.34 | lama | tmzt: http://netbsd.pl/~lama/i780 |
| 16:01.54 | lama | will put .config and haret config, zipped and picture soon :P |
| 16:02.04 | AstainHellbring | morning |
| 16:02.37 | lama | if you are interested I can give you an access to build VM machine with config and sources while I will be doing other things :P |
| 16:03.07 | tmzt | that's ok, I can build with a git --refed tree I forgot about that |
| 16:03.17 | tmzt | you didn't change zylonite at all? |
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| 16:04.59 | lama | hmm I have two config files |
| 16:05.13 | lama | will compare soon |
| 16:06.11 | cmonex | [16:14:22] <tmzt> cmonex: that's not the right RAMADDR for pxa3xx is it? |
| 16:06.23 | cmonex | physical ram address would probably be 0x80000000 for that cpu |
| 16:06.41 | tmzt | we got it, 0xa0000000 |
| 16:06.50 | lama | tmzt: config files are in same directory |
| 16:06.52 | tmzt | from linux memory.h |
| 16:07.07 | cmonex | ah. for pxa2xx it is there. for3xx i saw it at 0x80000000, maybe depends on the exact cpu model |
| 16:07.16 | lama | and default.txt |
| 16:07.19 | cmonex | but a mem map check will tell you anyday |
| 16:07.21 | cmonex | anyway* |
| 16:07.43 | tmzt | maybe pxa32x? it worked though so I don't know unless we just have less mem than we should mapped as ram |
| 16:07.52 | tmzt | lama: can you try what she said? |
| 16:07.52 | cmonex | what device is this btw? |
| 16:07.56 | tmzt | i780 |
| 16:08.09 | tmzt | we want to try omnia gsm as well |
| 16:08.15 | cmonex | ok get a memory map via haret if you want to know for sure. |
| 16:08.19 | cmonex | or via itsutils |
| 16:08.54 | lama | tmzt: yes |
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| 16:09.39 | cmonex | lama..is it your g900? :) |
| 16:09.44 | cmonex | er sorry i see nope |
| 16:09.45 | cmonex | :) |
| 16:09.48 | cmonex | so you got a i780, lama? |
| 16:09.53 | tmzt | got rid of it I think |
| 16:10.00 | cmonex | yeah.. but why i780 instead? |
| 16:10.03 | cmonex | i'd have kept the g900 :) |
| 16:10.05 | tmzt | someone else here has one, not much luck with linux yet |
| 16:10.05 | cmonex | but that's me :) |
| 16:10.17 | lama | cmonex: it's 2x smaller |
| 16:10.21 | cmonex | pff.. |
| 16:10.21 | lama | and lighter |
| 16:10.27 | cmonex | how much did you sell g900 for? |
| 16:10.31 | lama | gps |
| 16:10.42 | lama | oh how much is hard to say |
| 16:10.43 | tmzt | hw gps? |
| 16:11.04 | lama | cause zloty is weak now |
| 16:11.09 | lama | about 200$ |
| 16:12.05 | cmonex | hey thats pretty nice |
| 16:12.17 | cmonex | not that i have money for gadgets right now |
| 16:12.20 | lama | but new i780 with two batteries, bt headphone, best gps map for poland, car mount etc was in almost same price |
| 16:12.34 | lama | new with warranty |
| 16:12.44 | cmonex | so zloty is weak...same for HUF |
| 16:12.48 | tmzt | cmonex: any idea how optical sensor works? |
| 16:12.56 | cmonex | but thats actually good for me, i guess, if not *too* weak |
| 16:13.00 | cmonex | tmzt on what device? :P |
| 16:13.08 | tmzt | i780/omnia/saga/etc. |
| 16:13.11 | cmonex | i only know a bit about it on xperia, sorry |
| 16:13.19 | tmzt | I mean the "mouse" |
| 16:13.23 | cmonex | on xperia microp is involved |
| 16:13.30 | cmonex | yes, xperia has optical joystick :) |
| 16:13.37 | lama | 0x80000000 doesn't work |
| 16:13.46 | cmonex | anyway, dunno much about samsung phones, except generic xscale stuff |
| 16:13.54 | cmonex | (i played lot with xscale before :) |
| 16:13.56 | lama | i780 is really nice phone |
| 16:14.13 | lama | but it's more phone than pda :P |
| 16:14.19 | cmonex | lama: i didnt think it would work if 0xa0000000 worked :) but i dont undestand why you dont just get the mmu mapping before trying randomly. |
| 16:14.29 | cmonex | yeah, i prefer more pda phones |
| 16:14.38 | tmzt | we will, he doesn't have a telnet connection right now I think |
| 16:14.44 | lama | while sliders like g900 are more likes pdas, hard to use as a phone |
| 16:14.49 | tmzt | dump mmu when possible though, lama |
| 16:15.19 | tmzt | yeah, I like q as a phone, I think I would like i780/saga but I still want raph |
| 16:15.32 | lama | heh, the most important thing is ... make a picture now :) |
| 16:15.43 | lama | I have to charge batteries for my crap camera :P |
| 16:16.28 | cmonex | tmzt you dont need telnet |
| 16:16.46 | cmonex | simple activesync connection and itsutils will do the job with pmemmap |
| 16:17.13 | tmzt | we need to get gpio for sd card anyway |
| 16:17.26 | tmzt | so haretconsole is best but it doesn't support 3xx yet |
| 16:27.53 | lama | http://netbsd.pl/~lama/i780/R0019819.JPG |
| 16:27.55 | lama | \x/ |
| 16:40.40 | tcccp | lama: looks very nice indeed :) |
| 16:41.29 | tcccp | except the panic |
| 16:41.54 | tmzt | lama: wow, I just got to look at it |
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| 16:53.30 | tmzt | lama: it doesn't see the mmc card at all, it didn't list any partitions |
| 16:53.53 | tmzt | you only have two serial ports? |
| 16:54.02 | tmzt | no FFUART |
| 16:54.12 | tmzt | sorry, that's ttyS0 |
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| 17:13.40 | anil1 | Hi all.. this is probably an oft-asked question, is there any timeline (wild guess will do) for andriod working completely, including power, screen orientation, bluetooth, etc on HTC kaiser? |
| 17:14.56 | anil1 | also on HaRET, does it run as a layer b/w andriod and windows in the background.. or simply replaces the windows mobile in memory with andriod? |
| 17:15.13 | anil1 | is there a performance loss with running over Haret than running it natively |
| 17:15.15 | ClashTheBunny | It replaces windows mobile in memory |
| 17:15.53 | ClashTheBunny | No, there is no performance loss (other than the time of having to boot one OS before you can boot another) |
| 17:17.14 | ClashTheBunny | I'm following the RSS feed for the dzo's kernel tree and he seems to be making progress, but full support (bluetooth, wifi, etc) is a long way off. |
| 17:18.20 | AstainHellbring | ClashTheBunny whats dzo updated most recently? |
| 17:18.26 | AstainHellbring | or you have the rss feed for it? |
| 17:18.40 | ClashTheBunny | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=rss;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
| 17:19.32 | anil1 | ClashTheBunny: awesome.. thanks for the feed.. added it to my reader |
| 17:19.47 | ClashTheBunny | Still no post of binaries, but it looks like he's been working on suspend and power stuff the most. |
| 17:20.35 | anil1 | htc-vogue is the feed i should follow for kaiser? |
| 17:21.15 | anil1 | dumb question.. i see mentions of kaiser in the feed |
| 17:21.40 | ClashTheBunny | yeah, dzo first ported it to his vogue, then he recently got something more like a kaiser donated and has been working on that too. |
| 17:22.14 | ClashTheBunny | The two pieces of hardware are both being supported in the same kernel tree. |
| 17:23.16 | anil1 | thanks dzo for the effort. |
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| 17:25.24 | Pure4Real | wifi is somewhat halfway done from what i read somewhere, but i'm not sure if it's an active thing right now |
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| 19:48.38 | zaghaghi | hi, i can't find HTC Touch Viva in http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones , is it like another phone? |
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| 20:10.00 | zaghaghi | is HTC Touch Viva like HTC Elf? |
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| 20:21.32 | dcordes-x1 | yooyoyo |
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| 20:25.22 | exco_java | Touch Viva is HTC Opal 100 according to pdadb.net |
| 20:29.46 | zaghaghi | tnx exco_java |
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| 21:00.43 | NetRipper | maejrep, j0b0, fyi.. i have just committed some more stuff to git.. one of them is an improved msm_ts driver (interrupt based).. became quite a patch as i also sorted out the vkeyb and ts screen drawing stuff.. |
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| 22:33.39 | imfloflo | hi dzo your personnal site is stille down :s http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
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| 23:25.24 | dcordes | imfloflo: maybe massey uni needs some non vogue related bandwidth :) |
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| 23:43.44 | imfloflo | maybe its to to have a website multi device with the lastest kernel release always uptodate and an archive zone |
