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02:06.33kvstrien:(
02:06.59kvstrienfinally integrated the supplied board.c files for nike, kernel compiles neatly, but doesn't boot :@
02:07.31tmztwhat mach type are you using?
02:27.12kvstrienmach_nike
02:29.28kvstriennearly the same as mach_polaris - but got nike-ts.c, board-htcnike.c, board-nike-keypad.c and nike-pm.c
02:30.57kvstrienbut 'm gonna get some sleep now :) (3:30 in the morning is quite late, even during holidays :P)
02:31.15kvstrient'night tmzt
02:31.17kvstrient=g
02:31.56tmztarch/arm/tools/mach-types, add the NIKE
02:32.14tmztmake sure the machine init has that mach type
02:32.15tmztok
02:32.46kvstrienmach-types is updated already
02:33.00kvstriencan send you the files if you'd like to check 'm out..?
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04:35.55arrrghhhtmzt, so now i'm home.
04:36.00arrrghhhtsdogs_, you still here too?
04:36.19arrrghhhi formatted the card in winblows xp.  i was hoping to try this again...
04:41.04tmztyeah
04:41.30arrrghhhso i formatted the card in windows...
04:41.31lupine_85wonders whether to try android 1.0 on his raph100
04:42.07arrrghhhis there anything i need to do from windows to setup the partition table now that i actually have a card reader :D
04:42.49tmztstart>run>diskmgmt.msc
04:42.56tmztcheck the partition
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04:44.50arrrghhhtmzt, i formatted it from that utility... looks like android *may* actually be booting!
04:44.50parmasteri still haven't checked out the cupcake branch on my vogue yet
04:45.12arrrghhhoh wow
04:45.19arrrghhhit's booting...  that's awesome.
04:46.01arrrghhhi just formatted it, dropped the stuff on there and ran haret lol.
04:46.14parmasterwhat phone?
04:46.30arrrghhhtitan
04:46.41arrrghhhhrm.  i wonder when they'll get the touch screen workin better.
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04:47.40tmztarrrghhh: on titan, it should work if it's similar to vogue
04:48.06tmztyou mgiht have to press camera and calibrate it or something
04:48.14arrrghhhwell they were having issues
04:48.25arrrghhhand i guess they turned the touch sensitivity wayyyyyyy down.
04:48.35arrrghhhwow
04:48.45arrrghhhit switches from portrait to landscape ridiculously fast.
04:56.10parmastertry pressing cammera while touching one of the display corners with the stylus
04:57.30arrrghhhit's actually aligned fairly well
04:57.35arrrghhhjust have to press hard lol
04:58.11arrrghhhhrm locked up when i went to "power down"
04:58.45arrrghhhand there's still some work to be done, but now i can actually use it!  sweet.  and i ordered a new sd card today lol
05:00.06arrrghhhis there a terminal?  can i do ssh?
05:00.12arrrghhhwell i need to get internet working first...
05:00.23arrrghhhi had a cxn before running android.
05:00.42parmasteryeah there is a terminal
05:00.48parmasterin it just type su for root
05:01.00arrrghhhhow do you get to the terminal?
05:01.35parmasteri can't remember it might be under the developer menu thing
05:01.43parmasterdon't have my phone with me
05:01.55arrrghhhk
05:02.13arrrghhhah that's so cool.  seein tux on mah phone :D
05:02.39arrrghhhi think it's bedtime.  g'nite all, thanks again for all your help tmzt.  didn't have to do a whole lot this time haha!
05:04.09lupine_85humm, no joy here
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05:21.01AstainAwayhi hi
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07:54.43synthare there datasheets available for the MSM7201A ?
07:54.51synthor any MSM7x00
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08:55.08lavender-thappy new year folks !
08:55.38parmasterhey, happy new year to you also
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09:50.52lavender-thi cr2, if you read this log, could you please check your private message in xda-developers ? thanks !
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10:50.27kvstrienanyone who can help me set up HaRET console?
10:50.46kvstrienwhen I try to connect I get a "connection refused" error
10:51.25kvstrienthough my device is listening and has got a network address..
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11:23.33Untouchab1eHi all
11:30.39kvstrienhi
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11:36.12Untouchab1eAnyone tried Lavenders image on a Raph100?
11:36.24kimhoonyup
11:37.44kimhoonand it works :)
11:38.47kimhoonbut no gsm signal buttons doesn't works
11:39.16Untouchab1ecool
11:39.22Untouchab1edid you edit the default.txt in any way?
11:39.50kimhoonno  maybe today :)
11:40.34Untouchab1eso you didnt need to edit it in order to run in on the Touch Pro?
11:41.56kimhoonwait raph100 ive got a diamond and raph on the diamond it works but raph don't know
11:42.09kimhoongoing try it out today
11:42.46Untouchab1ewhat you mean "raph on the diamond"? lol
11:43.30kimhoonsorry on the diamond it works but on the raph i dont know
11:43.53Untouchab1eok, then we agree.. hehe
11:44.14ttbob__great news so far :)
11:44.22Untouchab1ewhat?
11:44.43ttbob__that the lavenders image works ...
11:44.58ttbob__at least on diamond
11:46.25Sparky_@kvstrien: hi
11:46.31Sparky_are you there?
11:46.54kvstrienyupe
11:46.58Sparky_hello
11:47.05kvstrienhi again :)
11:47.08Untouchab1ehi
11:47.18Sparky_got android running with the expected errors
11:47.21Untouchab1eyeah, Lavenders work is great! However, there is still much more to do
11:47.33Untouchab1eSparky, on the diamond on raph?
11:47.54Sparky_also managed to create a usb0 device to connect to the phone
11:47.59kvstriengreat :)
11:48.09kvstriengot ssh up?
11:48.10Sparky_but i only have the android image, so there is no ssh deamon :(
11:48.25kvstrienk, but you can easily add in another initrd
11:48.31Sparky_the link for the angstrom image is the same like the andorid :(
11:48.36kvstrien??
11:48.45Sparky_the both links are the same :(
11:49.18Sparky_but i found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBXdi4wJQl8
11:49.18kvstrienhttp://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom-20081127.cpio.gz
11:49.24Sparky_thx
11:49.27Sparky_i will give it a try
11:49.31kvstrienrename it to initrd of course :)
11:49.35Sparky_xrd
11:49.37Sparky_yes
11:50.23Sparky_@Untouchab1e: no, i am on a touch hd
11:50.29Sparky_:(
11:50.30kvstrienhm nice vid :)
11:50.42kvstriensomewhat slow but hey, it's running there! :)
11:50.49Sparky_it works, but there are no details :(
11:51.19Sparky_i sent a message to him, i hope he will answer
11:52.26Sparky_so i have to go to the store, cu later
11:52.38kvstrienlater
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12:46.22Sparky_damn android allways crashes to a black screen :(
12:53.28Sparky_with activsync enabled it won't boot :(
12:57.11Sparky_okay, got no luck, now its lunch time, bye
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13:40.08kvstriencan anyone tell me some more about gpio's?
13:40.58kvstrienI know what gpio's do, how they're triggered etc.. But on my Niki there are several keys that trigger the same bit
13:42.00kvstrienit looks like the keys are split in several blocks, and on a trigger the OS checks which key it is
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13:42.45kvstrienbut if two keys (for example 1 and 2, or red and green) trigger the same bit AND the same IRQ, how can I check which key is pressed?
13:43.23BabelO_kvstrien: it is a matrix, you have two gpio for row and you miss the others for column
13:43.56kvstrienok
13:44.09kvstrienbut there's one gpio that I can't see or ..?
13:45.10kvstrienbecause with HaRET console I see only one bit being triggered
13:49.03kvstrienBabelO_ do you know that?
13:50.27BabelO_kvstrien: there is many solution for keypad, you have i2c / spi / multiplexed row/column
13:50.56kvstrientrue, but still the OS needs to read it out - so it should be a readable value
13:51.08kvstrienat the old ps-2 protocol there was a scanning line, and depending on when the "key pressed" signal came in you knew which key it was
13:51.21kvstrienbut I think that's not a very power-saving way for a phone :)
13:51.27BabelO_with the row/column the uC switch quickly column from 0 to 1 one by one and when you press button you power up a row so you know where you are
13:51.37BabelO_and haret can't monitor this quickly swiotched bits
13:51.41kvstrienk
13:52.03lupine_85kvstrien: which device are you playing with?
13:52.06kvstrienniki
13:52.08BabelO_i think it is that way on your phone
13:52.17lupine_85okidoki
13:52.23BabelO_kvstrien: else check the spi or i2c data adress
13:52.30lupine_85has been bashing away at the raph100 keyboard
13:52.40lupine_85grrthing is grr
13:52.44BabelO_because sometimes they just power on the chip that managed keyboard on demand
13:53.02BabelO_so it can be that too
13:53.47BabelO_kvstrien: you have to look with haret which register is moving, for that use trace function
13:54.00kvstrienok thanks :)
13:54.23kvstrientrace?
13:54.53kvstrienmmutrace :)
14:10.42BabelO_kvstrien: look at haret page, there is a sample how to use trace register
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14:12.40kvstrienBabelO_: I'm there all day ;).. but is trace register the same as tracing mmu registers?
14:14.19kvstrienw8 I see it - the help vars function clears up a lot
14:15.49BabelO_kvstrien: no it is a ring buffer, it does not monitor event like mmutrace does
14:18.30kvstrienBabelO_: ok, so wirq will then not probe the addresses, but read out the ring buffer..?
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14:19.50BabelO_kvstrien: you have to tell trace what adress to look then use wi or something like that, see the wiki
14:21.23kvstrienok, but that's basically the same as mmutrace, except the ringbuffer part
14:22.13BabelO_http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
14:22.19BabelO_addlist TRACES
14:22.22BabelO_that the command
14:22.25kvstrienyes read that :)
14:23.49BabelO_it works well but you have to specify a short list to watch
14:24.01BabelO_on my artemis i can't do more than 4 adress
14:25.07kvstrienhm, when I clearlist TRACES, then addlist TRACES p2v(0x4c000000) and then wirq 10 my device turns off :S
14:25.21kvstrienthink that was not the right address :P
14:25.34kvstrienbut how do I know which address to watch?
14:29.07BabelO_some address do that, look into include/asm/arch of your current kernel
14:29.29BabelO_there is a msm.h or something like that with physical adress of each register
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14:34.39exception13BabelO: hi
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15:18.52AstainAwaymorning
15:20.47exception13We have already evening:)
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15:48.15arrrghhhso... how do i get the internet to work in android?
15:48.33arrrghhheveryone says just establish a cxn in winmo and it'll carry over... it doesn't seem to.
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16:08.43dcordeshi everybody and happy new year
16:08.50arrrghhhindeed
16:09.17kiozendcordes you are too early and too late :P
16:09.29arrrghhhhaha
16:09.38dcordeshow would I be too late :) ?
16:09.57arrrghhhi'm sure some people have already celebrated and are in 2009 :P
16:10.03dcordesyea
16:10.54arrrghhhso dcordes, what device are you using android on?
16:11.16dcordesnone
16:11.31dcordesI only use msm kernel on kaiser
16:12.47dcordesfear I can't help you with android networking
16:15.08AstainAwaylupine_85 how goes the fight with the keyboard?
16:18.09dcordesAstainAway: raph one?
16:18.45AstainAwayyes dcordes
16:19.03dcordesthat's nice. tmzt proposed to unify msm keyboards
16:19.13dcordesI share this opinion
16:19.31arrrghhhaw
16:19.34arrrghhhyea i don't see anything with the ifconfig command
16:19.34arrrghhhi'm not sure how else to get a cxn.
16:21.25AstainAwaydcordes unify them?
16:21.40dcordesarrrghhh: what device and android image do you have?
16:21.47arrrghhhtitan
16:21.53dcordesAstainAway: yea make one unified keypad file for all of the msm machines.
16:21.56arrrghhhand i'm not sure how to answer that last question... 1.0?
16:22.31AstainHellbringarrrghhh which android files you using?
16:22.45dcordesarrrghhh: yea that. like where did you download it? are you aware titan is the same board as vogue? I would check the xda forum on vogue android and read dzo's documentation
16:22.45arrrghhhi got them from xda-dev link
16:23.06arrrghhhhttp://magister.ipsys.net/projects/android-for-titan/ - from there
16:23.26arrrghhhdzo made docs?  i parused thru the vogue stuff a month or so ago.
16:23.41arrrghhhhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341903 - that's the titan/linux WIP page.
16:23.45AstainHellbringarrrghhh there is an app you need to run in that to start data
16:23.47dcordesthat'd be the same images as dzo use
16:24.11arrrghhhoh yea?  what's that.
16:24.21arrrghhhTogga?
16:24.28dcordesarrrghhh: do you define apn username password in CMDLINE?
16:24.36dcordeshttp://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
16:24.49arrrghhhwell
16:24.52arrrghhhthe problem is i use sprint
16:24.57arrrghhhno username or password (as i understand it.)
16:25.13dcordesdefine it anyway
16:25.16AstainHellbringyes arrrghhh toggle I believe
16:25.26AstainHellbringdcordes in the one he is running that is not needed
16:27.10tmztarrrghhh: there is a user/pw for sprint, but you have to find it in the wm
16:27.20tmztvzw is easy, just vzw/vzw works
16:29.29arrrghhhwell
16:29.36arrrghhhin wm i don't enter a username/pw
16:29.37arrrghhhi know i don't
16:29.53arrrghhhit just dials #777 and authenticates based on the esn or something...
16:29.58dcordesyou don't know if wm sets a username/pw for you
16:30.21arrrghhhwell i've resetup my evdo cxn several times
16:30.24dcordesmaybe it's hardcoded in your rom
16:30.27arrrghhhi've never entered any info in there
16:30.34arrrghhhi've reimaged several phones too.
16:31.19AstainHellbringarrrghhh run the togga app on your titan
16:31.32tmztif it authenticates based on the key I think you have to switch off mobile ip
16:31.50BabelOhi exception13 :)
16:31.57tmztnot esn, evdo is seperate
16:35.22BabelOwhat to do now ?
16:35.26BabelOhttp://www.fbi.gov/page2/dec08/code_122908.html
16:37.08arrrghhhAstainHellbring: i actually tried that, just fooling around with the apps available.  is there a way to configure it?  it's not connecting.
16:38.32dcordesBabelO: I will succeed right to the kid's page
16:38.44AstainHellbringnot sure arrrghhh I dont have a titan anymore but when I did I just ran that app did a few things in it and it worked
16:39.05tmztAstainHellbring: on sprint?
16:40.18tmztarrrghhh: I think those values are in nvitems on the radio so the would survive a flash
16:40.24tmztarrrghhh: but ask in #xda-dev
16:40.44AstainHellbringyes tmzt on sprint
16:41.24tmzthow did you login then, you didn't configure anything?
16:41.53AstainHellbringthe togga app did everything I needed for me
16:42.09tmztdid you have simple ip enabled?
16:42.42AstainHellbringnot 100% sure I was running the stock rom though with little modifications on it
16:45.53AstainHellbringbrb
16:48.28arrrghhhwhat's simple ip?  is that something in winmo?
16:48.49arrrghhhit's just that i've had multiple phones with sprint, and i know i've reconfigured the data cxn, and all it needs is dial #777...
16:49.12tmztmobile ip is the new way of accessing the internet that sprint but not verizon uses, simple ip is disabling mobile ip
16:49.28tmztmy understanding of it is simple ip uses ppp sessions and chap authentication
16:49.39arrrghhhah
16:49.40tmztI'm not clear on what mobile ip is
16:49.48arrrghhhyea i would say i would need simple IP.
16:49.55arrrghhhi used to have an apache, the titan is kinda new to me.
16:50.47arrrghhhit's just there's no settings in togga.  just connect and check status, i don't see how to configure it.
16:51.41tmztarrrghhh: I believe you need to access a settings menu on the phone from wm and that the username password and mip setting is in nvitems which is stored in the radio
16:51.59tmztthe instructions should be howardforums
16:57.39arrrghhhhrm
17:00.27arrrghhhdo you know where? lol
17:00.36arrrghhhthis is some uncharted territory for me.
17:01.24tmztsprint users forum, pda phones  or sprintusers.com
17:01.46tmztor search for mogul and ppp
17:05.44arrrghhhok
17:13.50arrrghhhso what about contacts?  is there a way in android to sync those?
17:14.15tmztonly through gmail so far
17:14.23arrrghhhwell that works
17:14.30tmztthey might be in a sqlite database but I haven't seen anyone decode it
17:14.34arrrghhhhrm
17:14.40arrrghhhwell i guess w/o internet i'm hosed
17:14.42tmztyou can import cvs (from outlook) into gmail
17:18.43arrrghhhyes, that's what i would do
17:18.48arrrghhhbut since android can't see the 'net
17:20.43arrrghhhhow do you set that up ?  in contacts i can't even add a contact.  just says the "My Contacts" group is empty.
17:28.03arrrghhhis there a way to reboot it?  or do i just soft-reset
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17:34.55arrrghhhyea, i just went thru the settings in wm... nothing for user or pass.
17:35.11arrrghhhso maybe there's some different way to authenticate if you're using ppp?
17:44.48tmztarrrghhh: there is a phone number you have to type at the dial screen
17:44.57tmztarrrghhh: that's what I mean by settings
18:06.00arrrghhhuhm...
18:18.05arrrghhhhrm.
18:18.10arrrghhhi don't know what you mean, sorry tmzt
18:21.45AstainHellbringhmm that diamond stuff for android works ok with lordkiwi's mods on it
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19:41.01tmztarrrghhh: http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=454411
19:41.30arrrghhhi got online!
19:42.24RZK333compile irc client xD
19:46.41RZK333how many chances we got on wifi working on Niki, if we will make android work fully? i mean, write/port a driver for qualcomm wifi block. qualcomm processor includes gps and wifi.
19:51.46tmztI believe we need to make the g1 driver work and find some way to load the eeprom data from flash
19:52.04tmztalso, the sdio has to work first including the mscc clocks
20:02.01RZK333htc dream has no wifi drivers yet?
20:02.59arrrghhhso i'd really like to help with this project
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20:03.15arrrghhhi'm pretty good with software, not an excellent programmer but i know a few things
20:03.20arrrghhhhardware, i would not be so good at
20:03.33arrrghhhwhere should i start?  seems like the keyboard is mapped pretty well already.
20:03.43arrrghhhhow about resizing everything?
20:03.54arrrghhhso it fits better on our qvga screens?
20:08.07tmztRZK333: dream (g1) does, but the sdio depends on an RPC/proc_comm implementation in the AMSS (radio) that is different on wm htcs
20:08.21tmztarrrghhh: what project?
20:17.50arrrghhhandroid for the titan
20:17.58arrrghhhi think the vogue has the same screen tho
20:18.21arrrghhhi think the g1 is like hvga or something different from our qvga screens, so everything just looks kinda scrunched.
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20:36.30arrrghhhi'd just like to start digging into this, so i can perhaps understand how it works better.
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21:02.18RZK333happy new year from gmt+3 )
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21:51.14maejrep01f087b0 | 778a156f 00000000 feedbeef 00000000 | o..w............
21:51.16maejrepheh
21:51.37maejreplooks like a developer got board :p
21:51.43maejrep(its repeated several times)
21:52.16maejrep01f0b480 | 00000000 00000000 4f425355 00004754 | ........USBOTG..
21:52.16maejrep01f0b490 | 4b4c4300 49474552 4448004d 43454452 | .CLKREGIM.HDRDEC
21:52.16maejrep01f0b4a0 | 41000000 434f5250 00000000 50534451 | ...APROC....QDSP
21:52.16maejrep01f0b4b0 | 00000000 43585200 00000000 58310000 | .....RXC......1X
21:52.16maejrep01f0b4c0 | 4352535f 4d000048 00505344 00000000 | _SRCH..MDSP.....
21:52.17maejrep01f0b4d0 | 004d5446 00000000 52444800 48435253 | FTM......HDRSRCH
21:52.19maejrep01f0b4e0 | 50470000 00000053 50000000 00004d50 | ..GPS......PPM..
21:52.21maejrepis that meaningful at all?
22:00.15arrrghhhmaybe to a computer.
22:00.21arrrghhhlooks like registers
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22:44.21tekkdroneHappy New Year all you GMT+N's
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23:03.42ALoGeNohappy new year
23:05.50madCoder-so looks like on raph800 the sd card is sd2 (0-based)
23:05.59madCoder-and looks like sd0 is wifi from what I can tell
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