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| 00:40.22 | tekkdrone | man I hate how cash burns a hole in your pocket |
| 00:41.09 | tekkdrone | i just sprung for a raph 800 >_< man does this thing make my apache look like a BRICK |
| 00:47.24 | tmzt | sprint? |
| 00:52.38 | tekkdrone | vzw |
| 00:52.57 | tmzt | so raph500 |
| 00:53.10 | tekkdrone | ahh I had the wrong information |
| 00:53.13 | tmzt | cool, did you get that through verizon then? |
| 00:53.25 | tekkdrone | aye, $270 after rebate |
| 00:53.30 | tekkdrone | (my contract was up) |
| 00:53.31 | tmzt | waiting to see if they come to bestbuy |
| 00:53.56 | tmzt | verizon wants 50 more than titan |
| 00:54.02 | tekkdrone | so the 100 is the gsm, the 500 is vzw's cdma, and 800 sprint's pcs cdma? |
| 00:54.08 | tmzt | yes |
| 00:54.18 | tekkdrone | cool |
| 00:55.51 | tekkdrone | It's a nice piece of hardware, sitting on charge atm haven't hardly checked it out yet and I'm already looking into the custom roms heh |
| 00:58.39 | tekkdrone | nice thing most people overlook, it slides to the right like the Apache did, meaning when it's open, the buttons are on the right rather than the left like Titan |
| 00:59.07 | tekkdrone | (I'm left handed, so this makes a huge difference) |
| 00:59.08 | tmzt | what does that mean? |
| 00:59.32 | tmzt | I didn't like that the screen is offset, but after playing with the sprint one I didn't notice it |
| 01:01.31 | tekkdrone | if I use the stylus on a Titan open in landscape, being left handed means the buttons are on my stylus hand side |
| 01:01.43 | tekkdrone | (front pad) |
| 01:01.56 | tmzt | ok |
| 01:02.12 | tekkdrone | the apache opens the other way, so my dpad scrolling can be done with my right hand while my left hand uses the stylus |
| 01:02.16 | tmzt | the raph also appears to have direction keys on the keyboard |
| 01:02.28 | tekkdrone | aye, apache did as well |
| 01:02.40 | tekkdrone | though apache did not have a dedicated number row |
| 01:03.16 | tekkdrone | I kept wanting to hit Fn + Q to get numeral 1 when I tried the phone out |
| 01:03.21 | tekkdrone | lol |
| 01:04.10 | tmzt | yeah, I have that Fn+letter on q |
| 01:04.22 | tmzt | if I get the raph I will have to get used to it |
| 01:12.22 | tekkdrone | I like how simple it's externals are no fancy shapes, no fancy colors, just a shiny black monolith |
| 01:14.48 | tmzt | I don't like the colored buttons on the verizon version and the sprint silver is really nice |
| 01:15.18 | tmzt | the black would be okay without the red/green though |
| 01:17.36 | tekkdrone | ahh on the call/end buttons |
| 01:18.00 | tekkdrone | yeah they would look better white |
| 01:20.27 | tekkdrone | definitely need to get this gimped verizon ui customization off of here though |
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| 04:19.37 | mdrobnak | Hello all. Does anyone have a guide to setting up a cross-compiling environment on Mac OS by any chance? (I can do it in Ubuntu if it makes it easier, but my main desktop is a Hackintosh, but I can use my laptop if it's easier...) I'm new to this, and would like to help further development on the Raphael in any way possible...Has any progress been made on the sound side? |
| 04:42.44 | tmzt | mdrobnak: hello |
| 04:43.19 | tmzt | mdrobnak: don't know if it's possible to build kernel or OE on osx, don't think there has been any work on sound for raph other things need done first |
| 04:44.02 | tmzt | though if by sound you mean for phone, that is handled with messages to the radio core (arm9/a9) |
| 04:45.16 | mdrobnak | Hey tmzt |
| 04:45.28 | mdrobnak | Yes, I mean to be able to make an actual phone call with sound |
| 04:45.29 | mdrobnak | :-) |
| 04:45.49 | tmzt | ok, dzo ril should support that |
| 04:45.58 | tmzt | which raph is it (gsm or cdma)? |
| 04:46.09 | mdrobnak | HTC Fuze, RAPH100 GSM |
| 04:46.53 | mdrobnak | I tried the latest .exe posted on the wiki |
| 04:46.53 | tmzt | try netripper.nl, netripper.com for kernels |
| 04:47.13 | tmzt | forum.xda-devleopers.com for infomration |
| 04:47.14 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:47.24 | tmzt | how did that work? video works? |
| 04:48.40 | mdrobnak | Actually |
| 04:49.01 | mdrobnak | as it turns out, I'm running the 11/05/08 exe. Let me try getting the new one...This one ran fine. |
| 04:49.14 | mdrobnak | Video was fine |
| 04:53.08 | mdrobnak | Booting now |
| 04:54.46 | mdrobnak | Definitely boots slower then the older one. I'm not sure if it's crashed or not. Last three lines are "trout_pwrsink_set: STUB!" repeated three times. Do I have to have it in ActiveSync mode for USB? |
| 04:55.36 | tmzt | I think you want to disable "Advanced mode" (RNDIS) and unmount the usb storage |
| 04:56.48 | mdrobnak | trying again..one sec |
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| 04:59.26 | mdrobnak | Oops. Missed the unmount the storage part. I'm going to try and reboot with no card in there. |
| 04:59.58 | mdrobnak | Stopped at the same point. Will let you know when it reboots. |
| 05:02.26 | mdrobnak | This time, nothing running, Activesync closed, no SD card..Trying again. |
| 05:02.44 | mdrobnak | A ha! |
| 05:02.51 | mdrobnak | Touchscreen calibration |
| 05:05.25 | mdrobnak | That's not good - the "incoming call" didn't even show up tis time. |
| 05:05.34 | mdrobnak | On the old one, it did. |
| 05:05.58 | mdrobnak | I can hear from the RF interference that the phone was doing stuff, but nothing popped up on the screen. |
| 05:08.31 | tmzt | by touchscreen calibration you mean in the kernel or android? |
| 05:09.15 | mdrobnak | When it's booting, it got to the point saying "touch anywhere to begin calibration" etc wetc |
| 05:09.31 | mdrobnak | I retried my test call, and it did work the second time. |
| 05:09.47 | tmzt | was that text from the kernel (same font as the rest of the text printed at startup)? |
| 05:11.05 | mdrobnak | I think so, but let me re-try just in case. |
| 05:14.35 | mdrobnak | Yes, same font. Wow that booted a lot faster too. I didn't have TouchFlow3D loaded this time. |
| 05:14.43 | mdrobnak | 7 seconds, vs 22 |
| 05:14.49 | mdrobnak | (according to kernel timestamps) |
| 05:23.46 | mdrobnak | tmzt: Any idea what is in the 12/13 test zImage on Netripper's site? |
| 05:24.32 | mdrobnak | Looks like a cleanup of the virtual keyboard stuff.. |
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| 05:32.12 | tmzt | is that one also an .exe? |
| 05:32.50 | tmzt | if not, try that with angstrom-*-usb rootfs |
| 05:34.01 | mdrobnak | nope, just a zImage |
| 05:34.08 | mdrobnak | Yeah, downloading that onto the phone now |
| 05:35.57 | mdrobnak | And here is where a Linux host comes into usefulness, eh? |
| 05:36.17 | tmzt | yeah |
| 05:36.39 | tmzt | you can try extracting it with osx if the permissions work |
| 05:36.50 | mdrobnak | Nah, that's not the problem |
| 05:36.56 | mdrobnak | No usb networking |
| 05:37.05 | tmzt | ah, use the zaurus driver |
| 05:37.44 | tmzt | ajzaurus |
| 05:38.48 | mdrobnak | Well, isn't that convienient. :-) |
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| 05:39.07 | tmzt | make sure to use the second interface, the first one does not work |
| 05:39.34 | tmzt | but ajzaurus should only see the second one since the first appears to be RNDIS |
| 05:39.37 | tmzt | maejrep: hi |
| 05:39.41 | maejrep | hello |
| 05:40.14 | maejrep | anything new happen in the past week? (i've been out of town) |
| 05:41.17 | tmzt | pichurri and dwaradzyn were working on raph |
| 05:41.35 | tmzt | sorry |
| 05:41.49 | pichurri | tmzt, jajaja, nop. We're working on blackstone... |
| 05:42.03 | tmzt | on blackstone |
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| 05:43.49 | tmzt | yeah, trying to remember and reading the log at the same time |
| 05:47.19 | pichurri | tmzt, hey, you know if somebody is working on 2.6.27? |
| 05:47.42 | tmzt | for which? |
| 05:48.01 | tmzt | work for .25 should be rather easy to move to .27 |
| 05:48.19 | tmzt | this is not the case for .21 (hh20) though (but that doesn't affect msm) |
| 05:48.20 | pichurri | msm in general, I'm seeing the android code and there are some updates for the fb code, which is interesting for blackstone... |
| 05:48.21 | maejrep | so yeah, last week when I was looking over the sdcc code, I started wondering why we didn't just start with the trout board, instead of halibut :x do you know? |
| 05:48.36 | tmzt | no I don't |
| 05:48.39 | pichurri | maejrep, what's the difference? |
| 05:48.48 | pichurri | between halibut and trout? |
| 05:49.02 | maejrep | well trout is the G1, and therefore already has pretty much full support for everything |
| 05:49.14 | pichurri | thats what I guessed... |
| 05:49.24 | maejrep | and most of whats in trout is also in raph |
| 05:49.28 | pichurri | but, you know if fb code is the same? |
| 05:49.28 | tmzt | I would like to think google has made things more upstream ready with .27 but the parts I have looked at so far don't look that way |
| 05:50.03 | pichurri | I think the fb is the same, actually is the panel that changes... |
| 05:50.08 | maejrep | I don't know, and likely wouldn't know that unless i tried it (but I'm pretty sure NetRipper did try it, and might be able to shed some light on why he chose halibut instead) |
| 05:50.16 | mdrobnak | tmzt: Booted no problem, but no usb network on the mac side, I think I need to reboot, ugh. Brb |
| 05:50.34 | maejrep | and I think getting the panel to work with board-trout would probably be easier than all the hacks we're currently doing to get halibut to work |
| 05:50.47 | pichurri | why? |
| 05:50.48 | tmzt | I believe it is because of things on g1 that are not on raphael/diam |
| 05:51.29 | maejrep | I think that would also be easier to overcome, assuming the way things talk to each other are roughly the same |
| 05:51.30 | tmzt | NetRipper didn't want to comment out most of the file or something |
| 05:51.44 | tmzt | way what talks to what? |
| 05:52.10 | maejrep | devices.. proc_comm vs gpios vs interrupts, ... |
| 05:52.36 | pichurri | hum |
| 05:52.55 | tmzt | I belive the goal (not neccessary google's stated goal at this point though) is to make most of this a pdata that can be set per board |
| 05:53.51 | tmzt | the CONFIG_AMSS in the android kernel source, though it's reason for being there is not relevant anymore I think (all devices are using 6225?) |
| 05:54.06 | maejrep | well if I ever get the free time I'll need to do it, I'm considering trying to get trout to work on raph |
| 05:54.22 | tmzt | we need something like that but it will likely break the ability to build a kernel for multiple devices |
| 05:54.53 | tmzt | I think adapting trout is the best way as it should benefit from android changes, halibut likely won't |
| 05:55.04 | pichurri | tmzt, don't think that is a problem...each one has already its config and stuff... |
| 05:56.01 | maejrep | its just nice seeing full support for everything, in board-trout* |
| 05:56.06 | maejrep | and would be nice to see the same on raph :D |
| 05:56.40 | pichurri | maejrep, even wifi... |
| 05:56.45 | maejrep | yes |
| 05:56.53 | maejrep | (trout is Dream, remember? ;) |
| 05:56.58 | pichurri | yep |
| 05:57.06 | pichurri | :) |
| 05:57.20 | maejrep | so yeah, it has support for basically everything from what I can tell |
| 05:57.22 | tmzt | wifi should really be just a sdio device, with pdata if needed for embedded sdio (not fully enumeratable through the bus) |
| 05:57.25 | maejrep | at least everything I'd like to get up |
| 05:57.29 | maejrep | right |
| 05:57.43 | tmzt | but there is power/vreg and a driver for that |
| 05:58.21 | maejrep | if it was really just the panel that was keeping us from using trout, I'd love to work on that some time soon |
| 05:58.30 | tmzt | interestingly, it appears there maybe calibration data in the flash for the wifi device, like on g1 |
| 05:58.38 | maejrep | I've been up since 6am (1am now), so I don't know if it'll happen tonight : |
| 05:58.42 | maejrep | *:p |
| 05:59.00 | tmzt | since we don't have a full bootloader it may be difficult to get this but it looks like haret will have to |
| 06:00.38 | pichurri | does kaiser has a bootloader? |
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| 06:00.43 | pichurri | or just haret? |
| 06:01.00 | tmzt | it has a ce bootloader |
| 06:01.14 | tmzt | I mean a linux bootloader like g1 has (adpated ce bootloader though) |
| 06:01.35 | mdrobnak | Hello again all. Ok, well, that didn't work so well. AJZaurusUSB doesn't work for me..Who knows. I'm gonna break out the laptop next. |
| 06:01.40 | tmzt | also, don't believe wifi works on kaiser |
| 06:02.45 | maejrep | tmzt, so you think adapting trout to raphael might be a somewhat reasonable goal to work toward? |
| 06:02.52 | maejrep | at least as a side project |
| 06:03.13 | tmzt | sure, but I don't know how much of halibut is really left other than the names |
| 06:03.23 | tmzt | in NetRipper's file |
| 06:03.37 | tmzt | the other board-trout- files might be interesting |
| 06:03.51 | tekkdrone | is the 7200 series msm chip htc lists for raph on the website the GSM model? |
| 06:04.06 | maejrep | also the cdma model |
| 06:04.11 | tmzt | yeah, msm7201a |
| 06:04.23 | tekkdrone | hmm, mine's coming up 7500 series in CE |
| 06:04.28 | tmzt | cdma is msm7500, not sure if there is an a model of that |
| 06:04.53 | maejrep | really? |
| 06:04.56 | tmzt | ce refers to all of them as 7500 though |
| 06:05.18 | tmzt | at least there is a driver call msm7500usbfs.dll or something like that on raph100 |
| 06:05.37 | tekkdrone | interesting |
| 06:05.55 | maejrep | ah that must be what implements the usb mass storage function |
| 06:06.06 | maejrep | I saw the driver in the registry |
| 06:06.14 | maejrep | but I thought raph100 didn't ship with that capability? |
| 06:07.09 | tmzt | I think that is for something, like the generic fsusb driver |
| 06:07.26 | tmzt | something else |
| 06:07.56 | maejrep | not sure what you mean.. I don't think it implements usbfs (as its known on linux) |
| 06:08.11 | maejrep | "usb function" generally implies that it makes a usb port function as some type of device |
| 06:08.37 | maejrep | like, usb ether function + usbnet |
| 06:08.43 | tmzt | I think fn is function, fs is full speed |
| 06:08.52 | maejrep | in this case, it functions as mass storage |
| 06:11.15 | tekkdrone | tmzt looks like I'm jumping to 2.6.27, the lure of mainline udc and egpio drivers tipped the scales |
| 06:11.32 | tmzt | great |
| 06:11.49 | tekkdrone | the mainline udc driver is a big one, what I've got pulled into .25 from the old hh kernel is hacked in, horribly |
| 06:12.03 | tmzt | there was a comment on #hackdev about mainstream usb host support for palmtx, still don't know why this is no generic pxa |
| 06:12.06 | tmzt | not |
| 06:15.22 | mdrobnak | tmzt: Ok, got usb networking up on my laptop, now what. :-) |
| 06:16.17 | tmzt | not sure what you are trying to do, the new zImage doesn't work right? |
| 06:16.28 | mdrobnak | Nope, it works fine, seemingly. |
| 06:16.35 | maejrep | tmzt, ah you're right, I was thinking of "USBMSFN.dll" |
| 06:16.45 | tmzt | other than the pwrsnk messages, which are for tracing power usage on the g1 |
| 06:17.14 | maejrep | there's a registry entry in HKLM/Drivers/USB/FunctionDrivers, where it lists the product and vendor IDs that I see when connected in disk drive mode |
| 06:17.16 | mdrobnak | tmzt: Yeah, that's still left-over. |
| 06:17.57 | tmzt | what is? |
| 06:18.27 | mdrobnak | tmzt: pwrsnk messages |
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| 06:20.19 | maejrep | tmzt, if I were to try board-trout on raph, do you think I should start with 2.6.27? |
| 06:21.10 | tmzt | working on that question right now |
| 06:24.07 | swetland | moving as close to mainline as possible is usually worthwhile |
| 06:24.14 | swetland | makes it easier to sync up again in the future |
| 06:24.48 | maejrep | swetland, without getting into too much detail, do you have any insight into whether that would work at all, and/or be worth pursuing? :) |
| 06:25.23 | swetland | not sure exactly what's in raph (assuming this is another msm7k based htc device) |
| 06:25.34 | maejrep | it is |
| 06:26.07 | tmzt | msm7201a |
| 06:26.08 | swetland | there are two broad issues -- hw differences (gpio assignments, peripherals, etc) and amss (radio firmware differences) |
| 06:26.27 | swetland | currently, I believe the linux-supporting and winmo-supporting amss are not unified |
| 06:26.28 | maejrep | it basically has everything trout has except compass, hardware wise .. more or less |
| 06:26.38 | maejrep | i see |
| 06:27.01 | tmzt | sure, though it appears blackstone and x1 might be closer to yours |
| 06:27.08 | tmzt | still working on that one |
| 06:27.24 | swetland | so code that talks to the baseband via shared memory is not going to be the same (obviously people have already hacked on stuff a bunch for vogue, etc, so it's not impossible to make things go, but it's not for free) |
| 06:27.47 | tmzt | on the raphael trout smd does not currently support write |
| 06:28.05 | mdrobnak | swetland: How does one go about finding out the gpio assignments, etc, with a lack of docs...just trial and error, or? |
| 06:28.11 | maejrep | doesn't support read either, on raph800 |
| 06:28.37 | swetland | other people here than I can probably answer that question better, as they've been doing it on various devices for quite a while |
| 06:29.05 | swetland | I tend to write code for hardware I have schematics or at least pin assignments for, so it's not a problem I fight with much, at least at the day job ^^ |
| 06:29.18 | mdrobnak | I ask because I want to help, but I'll be honest, I've never done any reverse engineering before.. |
| 06:30.57 | mdrobnak | yeah, documentation helps.. |
| 06:31.48 | tmzt | what is acoustic for, is that a sound driver? |
| 06:32.49 | swetland | setting parameters that affect the audiopath |
| 06:37.37 | tmzt | all from userspace? |
| 06:38.21 | tmzt | maejrep: does dzo or any other smd work? |
| 06:38.28 | maejrep | tmzt, neither |
| 06:38.32 | maejrep | *none |
| 06:39.00 | tmzt | so it's completely different from vogue/titan/kaiser/polaris amss also |
| 06:39.13 | maejrep | that is, I've never been able to use it.. I've used whats in current htc-msm-2.6.25, and a zimage that dzo (or dcordes?) built |
| 06:39.16 | maejrep | and neither worked |
| 06:53.05 | mdrobnak | Well, it is time for bed here. 'Night everyone |
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| 09:16.22 | parmaster | tmzt |
| 09:16.25 | parmaster | u up? |
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| 10:19.28 | ashkan | I have a qtek9090 and tend to try linux on it, is there a step-by-step instruction or howto available? |
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| 10:29.34 | imfloflo | ashkan simple search google : qtek 9090+ linux : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux |
| 10:32.05 | ashkan | imfloflo: thanks, I'm currently reading it. can I boot it from WM6 anyway? |
| 10:32.26 | parmaster | you're running wm6 on a BA? |
| 10:33.19 | parmaster | you should run haret manually from the storage card |
| 10:33.35 | ashkan | parmaster: yup, but I want to get rid of that completely if possible. |
| 10:33.50 | parmaster | did you build alge's images? |
| 10:33.56 | parmaster | onto an sd card? |
| 10:34.41 | ashkan | alge's images? what is that? I haven't tried linux on my BA yet if that's related. |
| 10:36.32 | parmaster | http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/ |
| 10:36.40 | parmaster | download the imges from there |
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| 10:37.08 | parmaster | instructions for how to build the sd card are here: |
| 10:37.11 | parmaster | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux |
| 10:37.37 | ashkan | parmaster: thanks, is it possible to get rid of WM completely? or it's still required to start the boot process? |
| 10:37.58 | parmaster | uhm, i believe the boot loader was reverse engineered |
| 10:38.13 | parmaster | i don't think anyone actually wanted to go that route though |
| 10:38.29 | parmaster | so just stick with launching from wm |
| 10:39.25 | ashkan | you know, carrying a version of windows in your pocket all day is a little bit annoying (at least for me). |
| 10:41.58 | Marajin | you get used to it in time ashkan |
| 10:43.34 | ashkan | another strange thing is that, I can't access my storage card on WM6 any longer, don't know why. and I don't know if this the right place to ask this question. |
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| 10:46.40 | dcordes | Marajin, others: 'lo |
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| 10:52.26 | Marajin | hey dcordes |
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| 10:52.30 | Marajin | how's it going at the old people's home? |
| 10:53.01 | BabelO_ | parmaster: you acn boot without wince but i only test it on artemis which is omap850 |
| 10:53.08 | Marajin | oh, and hey BabelO_ |
| 10:53.12 | BabelO_ | s/acn/can/ |
| 10:53.16 | BabelO_ | hello Marajin |
| 10:53.42 | parmaster | hi babel0: thanks |
| 10:54.17 | parmaster | i was just getting ready to try out the cupcake branch of android on my vogue |
| 10:55.10 | dcordes | my observations on msm7201a non-linux amss: raphael (both gsm and cdma) and diamond devices don't have a fully working AT channel (smd0) with trout amss - only reading works. on the venus (x1) and blackstone it works with the unmodified trout smd code. so venus and blackstone amss might be more similar to trout amss. |
| 10:55.39 | dcordes | at least regarding the smem setup. |
| 10:57.13 | dcordes | Marajin I'm ok. old people's house has many old people. and I had a chance to be joe the plumber for an hour today because I pipe in the basement went haywire |
| 10:57.40 | dcordes | a |
| 11:03.19 | Marajin | dcordes: Ah well, plumbing is like electrics for stupid people so I'm sure you did fine |
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| 11:03.36 | dcordes | s/7201a/7x01a/ |
| 11:05.37 | dcordes | Marajin yes a lot of routing and stuf is involved. |
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| 11:18.09 | Marajin | dcordes: you managed though right? |
| 11:19.18 | Marajin | ~seen ginge |
| 11:19.20 | apt | ginge <n=kvirc@78-105-175-81.zone3.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 28d 10h 38m 20s ago, saying: 'hmm will file a report. cya'. |
| 11:19.26 | Marajin | heh |
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| 11:35.51 | ALoGeNo | hey dcordes ^^ |
| 11:36.01 | ALoGeNo | merry cristmas or whatever :) |
| 11:36.16 | ALoGeNo | same for you Marajin |
| 11:36.40 | Marajin | hDid you have a nice christmas ALoGeNo ? |
| 11:36.53 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 11:36.54 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 11:36.59 | ALoGeNo | oh yes |
| 11:36.59 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 11:37.06 | ALoGeNo | nop |
| 11:37.14 | Marajin | make your mind up :P |
| 11:37.19 | Marajin | was it nice or not? :p |
| 11:37.36 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 11:37.43 | Marajin | why, what was wrong |
| 11:37.44 | Marajin | ? |
| 11:38.11 | ALoGeNo | no money no job no happy.. nothing is ok ;) |
| 11:38.44 | ALoGeNo | but well ppl is die in africa.. then im ok.. in comparation |
| 11:38.58 | ALoGeNo | dieing* ? |
| 11:39.08 | ALoGeNo | i dont know the words.. |
| 11:39.21 | ALoGeNo | you know that i mean.. |
| 11:40.22 | ALoGeNo | but merry cristmas is a way to say hey i wish you a happy hollydays.. or so ^^ |
| 11:40.49 | ALoGeNo | Marajin what is wrong with you? |
| 11:46.06 | Marajin | heh |
| 11:46.13 | Marajin | Well it's much the same for me, no money, no job |
| 11:49.49 | Marajin | but christmas is ncie anyway ALoGeNo |
| 11:50.04 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 11:50.46 | ALoGeNo | yeah the ppl is more close.. (but no much more..xD) |
| 11:50.56 | Marajin | haha, well I don't like my family so much |
| 11:51.08 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 11:51.45 | ALoGeNo | when you are older and live with your parents like me.. the family turns in a problem.. XD |
| 11:51.46 | Marajin | I got a nice watch though, so that was a good gift |
| 11:51.47 | ALoGeNo | yep |
| 11:51.48 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 11:51.57 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: I am older and live with my parents due to my illness |
| 11:52.08 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 11:52.22 | ALoGeNo | i see that is the same in uk than in spain.. |
| 11:52.28 | Marajin | yep |
| 11:52.34 | ALoGeNo | this is a biggest crap.. xD |
| 11:52.39 | ALoGeNo | or whatever... |
| 11:53.12 | ALoGeNo | this is "THE" biggest crap..* ;) |
| 11:53.16 | Marajin | ah well, we can make our own christmas |
| 11:53.53 | ALoGeNo | sure.. we can still looking in google for more stuff to lost our time.. |
| 11:53.54 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 11:53.58 | Marajin | haha |
| 11:53.59 | Marajin | yep |
| 11:54.09 | Marajin | we can plot to raid HTC headquarters and steal secret new designs! |
| 11:54.17 | ALoGeNo | xDDDD |
| 11:54.20 | ALoGeNo | LOL |
| 11:54.41 | Marajin | and all the spec sheets so they can make them run linux! |
| 11:54.43 | ALoGeNo | we can or not... |
| 11:54.50 | ALoGeNo | im not sure at all.. xd |
| 11:55.02 | dcordes | or even better: secret old docs |
| 11:55.07 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 11:55.26 | Marajin | what secret old docs do HTC have? |
| 11:55.39 | ALoGeNo | in this case we can too stole secrets documents from the roswell incident too |
| 11:55.40 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 11:55.54 | dcordes | msm7200 manual |
| 11:56.13 | Marajin | you think HTC are aliens? |
| 11:56.15 | ALoGeNo | dcordes allways helping the mases ^^ |
| 11:56.23 | ALoGeNo | hi dude :) |
| 11:56.42 | Marajin | maybe my kaiser is mind control device? :s |
| 11:56.43 | dcordes | heya ALoGeNo |
| 11:56.57 | ALoGeNo | Marajin i think that the real aliens are the fucking bankers.. |
| 11:56.58 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 11:57.06 | dcordes | gsm2neuron |
| 11:57.08 | Marajin | nah bankers aren't aliens, they're just evil |
| 11:57.28 | ALoGeNo | theys are try to end with our civilitation.. |
| 11:57.29 | ALoGeNo | XD |
| 11:57.38 | ALoGeNo | theys are aliens.. |
| 11:57.45 | Marajin | fair enough :P |
| 11:58.13 | ALoGeNo | theys sold houndreds of llifes for a bit of money.. |
| 11:58.14 | ALoGeNo | hehe.. |
| 11:58.29 | Marajin | yeah, ya know our house mortgage is with a spanish company |
| 11:58.31 | Marajin | they're idiots |
| 11:58.41 | ALoGeNo | theys are fucking bastard.. bot aliens you are in the rigth.. |
| 11:59.05 | ALoGeNo | not* |
| 12:00.00 | ALoGeNo | im loooking for something new for my mp900c but nothing new.. |
| 12:00.13 | Marajin | yeah I may never get my kaiser to have working SD I guess |
| 12:00.18 | ALoGeNo | all the days look for something new for the universal too xD |
| 12:00.38 | ALoGeNo | oh.. that is a crap kaiser rocks.. |
| 12:01.10 | ALoGeNo | i dont know the kaiser problems.. but kaiser is a nice machine.. |
| 12:01.19 | Marajin | yes nice hardware |
| 12:01.25 | ALoGeNo | y have hermes one |
| 12:01.25 | Marajin | I think I will get new phone in march |
| 12:01.42 | ALoGeNo | not than nice but is cheap and do his job.. |
| 12:01.50 | dcordes | I decided to save the euros and stick with kaser for a while |
| 12:01.54 | Marajin | I have a hermes too |
| 12:02.22 | ALoGeNo | dcordes but you can work in your oun machine :) |
| 12:03.01 | ALoGeNo | Marajin what kind rom are you using with hermes? |
| 12:03.07 | ALoGeNo | pdaviet maybe? |
| 12:03.22 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: I don't use my hermes, it just sits on my shelf |
| 12:03.29 | ALoGeNo | oh |
| 12:03.29 | ALoGeNo | xD |
| 12:03.29 | Marajin | I think it has schaps 4.3 though |
| 12:04.00 | ALoGeNo | oh nice.. i have schaps mixed with pdaviet one.. |
| 12:04.17 | dcordes | I'm not in desperate need of the extra 240x320 and main clok |
| 12:04.39 | ALoGeNo | schaps themes and that from schaps with diamond black and that form pdaviet |
| 12:04.50 | Marajin | dcordes: the new ones are WVGA though! |
| 12:05.43 | ALoGeNo | hey guys.., why you think that the ppl left the universal..? |
| 12:06.04 | ALoGeNo | that is a good machine and have a 90% of the work done .. no? |
| 12:06.15 | ALoGeNo | 640x480.. |
| 12:06.20 | ALoGeNo | 500Mhz.. |
| 12:06.34 | ALoGeNo | 64MB tes.. but runs propelly.. |
| 12:06.38 | ALoGeNo | yes* |
| 12:06.46 | Marajin | I wanna get a quartz |
| 12:06.58 | Marajin | that is like raphael but it has WiMax and 800x480 screen |
| 12:06.58 | ALoGeNo | is like my ibm iseires.. celeron 500Mhz.. xD |
| 12:07.10 | ALoGeNo | series* |
| 12:07.17 | ALoGeNo | oh... |
| 12:07.26 | ALoGeNo | touch HD? |
| 12:07.31 | Marajin | no |
| 12:07.34 | dcordes | Marajin venus and blackstone are wvga |
| 12:07.34 | Marajin | newer one |
| 12:07.47 | ALoGeNo | hum... |
| 12:07.59 | dcordes | touch hd = blackstone |
| 12:08.16 | Marajin | yes |
| 12:08.25 | Marajin | but quartz has wimax and 5Mpixel camera |
| 12:08.46 | ALoGeNo | is a nice machine but without keyboard lost a little.. |
| 12:09.35 | dcordes | yea keyboard is a must |
| 12:10.29 | dcordes | Marajin did you hear of the non-android gsm server on kaiser? |
| 12:11.39 | Marajin | um, no? |
| 12:11.43 | dcordes | one could easily make the ncurses dialer for it :) |
| 12:11.49 | Marajin | haha |
| 12:11.50 | Marajin | cool |
| 12:13.46 | dcordes | frameworkd. it's used by the mokos. python based it abstracts AT communication with dbus commands |
| 12:14.26 | ALoGeNo | the mokos.. ^^ |
| 12:15.05 | ALoGeNo | in spanish los mocos is the crap of our nose.. |
| 12:15.05 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 12:15.10 | dcordes | what's wrong about mokos? i mean the openmoko inc people |
| 12:15.13 | dcordes | haha |
| 12:15.19 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: english word is 'mucus' |
| 12:15.25 | ALoGeNo | mucus xD |
| 12:15.38 | Marajin | but we say 'snot' for slang |
| 12:15.45 | ALoGeNo | nice |
| 12:16.02 | ALoGeNo | aham i think that is like estornudar here.. |
| 12:16.30 | ALoGeNo | ah.. ok now i get it.. |
| 12:16.43 | Marajin | how old are you anyway ALoGeNo ? |
| 12:16.50 | ALoGeNo | 37 |
| 12:17.13 | ALoGeNo | im a old young ^^ |
| 12:19.39 | dcordes | popel in german |
| 12:19.55 | ALoGeNo | ;) |
| 12:20.06 | ALoGeNo | you are from germany dcordes? |
| 12:20.14 | dcordes | yea |
| 12:20.23 | ALoGeNo | oh that is nice ;) |
| 12:21.07 | ALoGeNo | and all the ppl speaking in english.. hehe.. |
| 12:21.47 | ALoGeNo | the main is understand us.. |
| 12:21.54 | ALoGeNo | or whatevers.. |
| 12:21.58 | ALoGeNo | Xd |
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| 12:27.46 | dcordes | Marajin btw ginge sneaked in as baz a while ago |
| 12:28.23 | dcordes | ~seen baz_ |
| 12:28.25 | apt | dcordes: i haven't seen 'baz_' |
| 12:28.30 | dcordes | ~seen baz |
| 12:28.31 | apt | baz <n=barry@ppp-124-120-224-175.revip2.asianet.co.th> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 311d 5h 44m 18s ago, saying: 'RyanRyan52: more of a perl question I thought but thanks'. |
| 12:28.50 | dcordes | hmmn |
| 12:28.54 | dcordes | not |
| 12:34.47 | dcordes | low on power byebye |
| 12:34.50 | kvstrien | by3 |
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| 16:33.26 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: Sorry, I got sidetracked, not enough sleep leads to poor concentration |
| 16:34.02 | ALoGeNo | hey no problem Marajin |
| 16:34.14 | ALoGeNo | dont worry i have the same issue |
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| 16:40.33 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: heh :) so what were we talking about? |
| 16:41.37 | ALoGeNo | sleep bad, and not enouth |
| 16:41.43 | ALoGeNo | enough* |
| 16:42.10 | ALoGeNo | and poor concentration.. |
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| 16:58.10 | mdrobnak | Hi everyone. I saw on xda-dev that lavender.t got Android 1.0 on his Diamond working, which is great news.. I'm setting up my build environment on my laptop right now to help test out latest kernels on the 0.8 front.. |
| 16:58.23 | mdrobnak | What time of day is this channel most active? |
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| 17:04.57 | tsdogs | mdrobnak: CET time usually |
| 17:05.09 | sleepr | mostly euros here? :) |
| 17:05.28 | tsdogs | yep, I think germany is the leader of the channel |
| 17:06.53 | sleepr | ok, nice :D |
| 17:07.01 | sleepr | i know some german! |
| 17:07.10 | tsdogs | I dont ;) |
| 17:07.41 | mdrobnak | lol |
| 17:07.56 | sleepr | ich heisse fredrik! ich spreche deutsch! ;P |
| 17:08.01 | mdrobnak | I'm on the East coast of the US, here. |
| 17:09.05 | sleepr | im a swede :D |
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| 17:10.03 | mdrobnak | I haven't used IRC in so long, but I always remember that was one of the coolest aspects was getting people from all over the world together.. |
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| 17:15.36 | sleepr | yea, irc is really usefull! |
| 17:20.34 | mdrobnak | Unlike computers in general, they're just a pain. ;-) |
| 17:20.39 | mdrobnak | (Dealing with a software issue) |
| 17:22.16 | sleepr | :D |
| 17:22.51 | sleepr | well im working for TeliaSonera as support for GRPS connections and mobile broad bands.. you dont know pain until you worked here ;) |
| 17:23.03 | sleepr | swedish mobile carrier |
| 17:23.09 | sleepr | GPRS* :D |
| 17:24.07 | sleepr | every mr mrs smith have a mobile broadband and they dont know shit about computer, double click what? oh, do i right click that or is it left? controlpanel? whats that?! |
| 17:24.11 | sleepr | *grin* |
| 17:29.58 | tmzt | dcordes: cmonex said it might be possible to use x1 or blackstone radio on raphael |
| 17:30.17 | tmzt | if someone was to try that we might find that trout smd worked |
| 17:35.29 | Marajin | ALoGeNo: If it is not one thing it is another, I just got news that the lady who got me my first proper IT job has died of cancer |
| 17:36.15 | ALoGeNo | oh.., sorry man :( |
| 17:36.23 | ALoGeNo | hi tmzt |
| 17:46.41 | dcordes | tmzt: have a link? |
| 17:46.59 | tmzt | for? |
| 17:47.22 | dcordes | the x1/blackstone radio on raphael stuff |
| 17:47.36 | tmzt | I saw that in #xda-dev and asked about it |
| 17:48.07 | tmzt | I know they were working on changing frequencies (for t-mobile??) but that didn't happen |
| 17:49.16 | dcordes | ok it would be interesting to try |
| 17:50.02 | toer | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_ExtractedRadioRoms there are links to both x1 and blackstone radios there |
| 17:50.36 | tmzt | I don't know how much of an improvement raphael is over kaiser but the chips really aren't that different so I don't know why someone would upgrade from kaiser, ba/apache/hermes I can definately see |
| 17:50.55 | tmzt | hey thanks toer |
| 17:52.30 | toer | i can try and flash my raph100 with either one of them if there is something thats need testing |
| 17:52.53 | dcordes | tmzt: as I mentioned I wouldn't need extra res and cpu |
| 17:53.06 | tmzt | definately ask for instructions in #xda-dev |
| 17:58.50 | dcordes | tmzt: still a raph or x1 couldn't harm |
| 17:59.02 | tmzt | true |
| 17:59.29 | dcordes | are you considering a raph800? |
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| 18:01.15 | tmzt | yeah, I wanted titan but it looks like raph500 is 50 more |
| 18:01.38 | tmzt | I only buy a phone every 2+ years with the contract |
| 18:01.47 | dcordes | then raph sounds more reasonable. what's 800 vs 500 ? |
| 18:01.57 | tmzt | sprint and verizon |
| 18:02.05 | tmzt | both cdma phones |
| 18:02.07 | dcordes | same board? |
| 18:02.14 | tmzt | think so |
| 18:02.31 | tmzt | I think tekkdrone just got one |
| 18:03.17 | dcordes | yea seen that earlier. maybe it's just the housing and keyboard? |
| 18:03.36 | tmzt | yeah, the black or the silver |
| 18:03.51 | tmzt | the black has red/green buttons, the silver (sprint) is basically a mirror |
| 18:04.10 | dcordes | I think the keyboard in raph is a big plus with the extra number row |
| 18:04.33 | tmzt | yes, the five row keyboard is nice |
| 18:04.57 | tmzt | it means more symbols too in linux, so I am happy |
| 18:05.12 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.41 | xero2 | dcordes i would like to thank you for your work :) |
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| 18:12.21 | dcordes | xero2: easy. thank the people who do the actual code stuffs |
| 18:12.23 | dcordes | bbl |
| 18:13.02 | mdrobnak | tmzt: Too bad they took out the control key on the AT&T version, then it would have been perfect for remote Linux sysadmin... |
| 18:14.18 | tmzt | yeah, I have seen the fuze keyboard and it makes no sense |
| 18:14.33 | mdrobnak | In day-to-day usage, it's fine really |
| 18:14.44 | mdrobnak | I will admit sometimes I'd rather a dedicated number row. |
| 18:14.52 | mdrobnak | But for the most part it's not a problem. |
| 18:15.04 | tmzt | sure, it's just hard to test in a store (particularly with a non-working demo) |
| 18:15.11 | mdrobnak | With things like the PIN input to unlock, it's automatically numbers, so you don't have to hold down Fn |
| 18:15.20 | mdrobnak | LOL. Yeah, that's not a good demo. :-) |
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| 18:15.40 | mdrobnak | That's ok, I had no demo to try. ;-) |
| 18:16.09 | mdrobnak | I was like 'do you have any in stock?' '1 left' 'ok great, where's your demo' 'actually, we haven't got that in yet' |
| 18:16.21 | mdrobnak | 'what's your return policy?' :-) |
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| 18:18.34 | pichurri | dcordes, hello... |
| 18:18.59 | pichurri | dcordes, I'm still trying to get the fb/mddi for blackstone to work |
| 18:19.21 | pichurri | dcordes, have any suggestions? |
| 18:23.14 | pichurri | already hardcoded the "correct" fb physical address and apparently is being passed correctly to the mdp_dma_to_mddi in drivers/video/msm/msm_fb.c |
| 18:23.16 | pichurri | ... |
| 18:23.56 | pichurri | anybody...:P |
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| 18:42.18 | tmzt | dcordes: do we know what smd the diag port is? |
| 18:46.59 | parmaster | hmm but the T7272 has the ctrl key right? |
| 18:54.54 | parmaster | hi tmzt |
| 18:58.01 | tmzt | hi parmaster |
| 18:58.33 | parmaster | good job so far man, you really are an asset |
| 19:01.24 | parmaster | i was really delighted to see tekkdrone making progress on the apache |
| 19:01.59 | tmzt | is the radio only accessed through uart on harrier? |
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| 19:06.45 | parmaster | you mean is it similar to the ohci stup on the apache? |
| 19:06.58 | tmzt | yes, do we know? |
| 19:07.16 | parmaster | no, but i can try to arrange some time with my harrier to checkit out |
| 19:07.20 | tmzt | apache has at commands on uart though |
| 19:07.41 | parmaster | unless cr2 already knows it |
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| 19:09.07 | parmaster | i'll try to talk to tekkdrone when he's around and i have the harrier up |
| 19:09.37 | parmaster | but i know i tried on ttyUSB* |
| 19:09.50 | tmzt | on the devices usb host? |
| 19:10.16 | parmaster | yes |
| 19:10.27 | tmzt | you have the init code in there? |
| 19:11.00 | parmaster | the AT init ? |
| 19:11.29 | tmzt | no, the usb init code |
| 19:11.31 | parmaster | no |
| 19:11.45 | tmzt | but if you can already access the /dev/ttyUSB I guess it's not needed |
| 19:11.48 | parmaster | so i'll talk to him when he's around |
| 19:12.48 | dcordes | tmzt: on the kaiser, the diag port is routed to usb when booted in service mode. |
| 19:13.07 | tmzt | yeah, apparently not on diamond though |
| 19:13.21 | tmzt | and I'm looking for the actual smd channel number |
| 19:13.53 | parmaster | through setthtc? |
| 19:14.09 | dcordes | tmzt: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369754&highlight=oemsbl |
| 19:15.15 | dcordes | pichurri: ever tried raising MSM_FB_SIZE ? |
| 19:15.31 | tmzt | it should be 2*resolution |
| 19:22.20 | parmaster | tmzt: does the channel number you're talking about relate to the one configurable using settihtc? |
| 19:22.39 | tmzt | no |
| 19:22.46 | parmaster | ah ok |
| 19:23.08 | tmzt | not directly at least, similar concepts though |
| 19:24.58 | pichurri | dcordes, yep, but actually the fb size for the diamond/raphael is bigger than that... |
| 19:25.23 | parmaster | i'd be better off if i red the ril |
| 19:25.38 | tmzt | what are you looking for? |
| 19:26.01 | dcordes | pichurri: bigger than what? |
| 19:26.52 | parmaster | nothing at the moment, i'm trying to do too many things at once |
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| 19:27.15 | parmaster | hi Babel0 |
| 19:27.34 | pichurri | I did 800*480*2 = 768000 (0xBB800), but on the board file I have 0x280000 = 2621440 |
| 19:28.08 | tmzt | android uses multiple screens |
| 19:28.09 | dcordes | for the x1 I did trout MSM_FB_SIZE/640*800 |
| 19:29.11 | pichurri | and diamond/raphael have = 640*480*2 rounded = 1048576 (0x100000) |
| 19:29.39 | pichurri | I don't understand the MSM_FB_SIZE/640*800 ... |
| 19:29.41 | pichurri | ahh |
| 19:29.51 | pichurri | yep that gives the 280000 |
| 19:30.03 | pichurri | there are 2 drivers for fb |
| 19:30.16 | dcordes | that's what I used for the x1 tryouts |
| 19:30.18 | pichurri | on the second is 200000 for the fb size |
| 19:30.52 | dcordes | pichurri: is the blackstone display rotaded 180° ? |
| 19:30.56 | pichurri | that is why I have 0x280000 |
| 19:30.58 | pichurri | nop |
| 19:31.08 | pichurri | pinguin is up |
| 19:31.27 | dcordes | on the x1 fb is rotated 180° with the trout code |
| 19:31.49 | pichurri | here is a pic of the result of the first driver : http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/images/corrupted_output_2008-12-28_1.jpg |
| 19:31.56 | pichurri | (early stage) |
| 19:32.41 | pichurri | I'll take a pic of the second driver output... |
| 19:33.22 | dcordes | wdid you try different resolutions? |
| 19:36.07 | pichurri | just 640x480 (just used the diamond zimage), it didn't use all the screen but the output was the same, garbage... |
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| 19:39.11 | pichurri | when I played with the first driver (htc_fb_console) if I modified the htc_fb_console_update |
| 19:39.13 | tsdogs | ~seen cr2 |
| 19:39.14 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 10d 21h 45m 28s ago, saying: 'ok, leaving for today'. |
| 19:39.35 | pichurri | I got different results, but non satisfactory...:( |
| 19:40.05 | pichurri | something interesting is that haret can output correctly to the fb, |
| 19:40.17 | pichurri | it uses physical and virtual memory |
| 19:41.15 | pichurri | I tried setting the same virtual buffer on the linux drivers, without luck.... |
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| 19:46.31 | pichurri | dwaradzyn explained as "it seems that framebuffer is ok, but mddi copies every line to lcd with an error (shifted left or right, the extra space filled with black or "random" pixels)" |
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| 19:47.34 | pichurri | here are the links to the 2nd driver pic: http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/images/corrupted_output_2008-12-29_1.jpg |
| 19:50.58 | pichurri | and http://www.gavero.com/pichurri/blackstone/images/corrupted_output_2008-12-29_2.jpg |
| 19:51.47 | pichurri | by the way I got to work the patch you did for the blackstone/venus...:) |
| 19:52.09 | pichurri | added a defconfig and other things... |
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| 19:53.00 | pichurri | an updated haret has to be used, and now it shows "Blackstone", jiji :) |
| 19:53.13 | pichurri | as the machine detected... |
| 19:53.34 | tmzt | it the new haret needed to boot or does set MTYPE work also? |
| 19:53.47 | pichurri | is it normal that the fb virtual fb memory is different from haret and linux? |
| 19:54.12 | pichurri | I set the mtype, but perhaps it works without it...have to test |
| 19:54.41 | pichurri | I specified as 2030... |
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| 19:59.07 | pichurri | ...Kant Kang, Software Engineer at HTC (http://www.google.com/s2/profiles/118072046225704357663), added the first definition for the blackstone (1951 http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/) |
| 20:00.01 | pichurri | any ideas on how to debug the mddi? this is the first time I do this... |
| 20:05.39 | pichurri | LCD_CONTROL_BLOCK_BASE...? |
| 20:05.45 | pichurri | MDDI_CLIENT_CORE_BASE..? |
| 20:07.04 | pichurri | how can I know that the writel are correct...? htc_fb_console_update in htc_fb_console... |
| 20:09.10 | tekkdrone | morning folks |
| 20:09.15 | tekkdrone | errrr afternoon |
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| 21:31.39 | sleepr | im returning it tomorrow to have it replaced thou.. and hopefully i get one thats quiet :) |
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| 22:17.03 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelMemoryMap wtf? |
| 22:17.23 | tmzt | broken again? |
| 22:18.37 | dcordes | tmzt: yea I find it strange |
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| 22:37.03 | xero | so are there any new images to play with for kaiser? |
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| 22:42.39 | arrrghhh | so the xda-devel site was recently updated to include my phone as "officially" supported. ha. either way, i can't mount my sd card. haret loads, and says "failed to mount sd card" - the only suggestions i've seen is adjusting the msmsdcc_fmax value in default.txt and a different sd card. |
| 22:45.17 | tmzt | arrrghhh: what device? |
| 22:49.26 | arrrghhh | htc titan/mogul |
| 22:51.24 | tmzt | the question is does linux see the card at all, forget about haret what does the last few messages from linux boot say? |
| 22:51.40 | arrrghhh | haret's fine. 1 sec |
| 22:52.16 | arrrghhh | mount: mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: invaild argument |
| 22:52.42 | arrrghhh | then, failed, failed to mount sd card. |
| 22:53.26 | tmzt | ok, before that |
| 22:53.31 | arrrghhh | it seems to recognize it, there's 2 lines about the mount line: mmcblk0: mmc0:e624 SUS12 495488KiB - which is the correct size of the card. |
| 22:53.36 | arrrghhh | right after that |
| 22:53.37 | tmzt | what kernel (zImage) are you using? |
| 22:53.43 | tmzt | good |
| 22:53.54 | arrrghhh | FAT: utf8 is not a recommned IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
| 22:54.18 | tmzt | how did you format the card? |
| 22:54.28 | arrrghhh | well originally i think fat16 |
| 22:54.43 | arrrghhh | but i just reformatted it in the phone, and i don't know wth it formatted it as. didn't really ask any questions. |
| 22:55.18 | tmzt | try formatting from windows or linux (mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sdXn) |
| 22:55.23 | arrrghhh | k |
| 22:55.31 | arrrghhh | fat32 then i'm guessing |
| 22:55.46 | tmzt | yeah, how big is the card/partition? |
| 22:55.52 | arrrghhh | 512 mb |
| 22:56.05 | arrrghhh | it's not partitioned at all. that's a bag of worms i do not want to deal with on my sd card lol |
| 22:56.15 | arrrghhh | it's the POS that came with the phone. |
| 22:57.46 | arrrghhh | so i keep changing that msmsdcc value |
| 22:57.57 | arrrghhh | and the clk_set_rate sometimes changes, and sometimes it doesn't. |
| 22:57.58 | tmzt | it's detecting the card, that is not the problem |
| 22:58.10 | arrrghhh | okie |
| 22:58.12 | tmzt | this is not the kernel, it's a script |
| 22:58.26 | arrrghhh | yea, that setcmdline part. |
| 22:58.43 | arrrghhh | msmsdcc_1bit - i also saw a suggestion to add that line |
| 22:58.58 | arrrghhh | that's about the last thing i haven't tried that i've found for a suggestion to fix this problem |
| 23:00.04 | tmzt | /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 is the first partition, you have no partitions |
| 23:01.18 | tmzt | ce should not have a problem with a fat32 partition on the card, it does not have to be "superfloppy" mode |
| 23:01.47 | tmzt | you can put a fat32 partition on the card or fix the script to use /dev/block/mmcblk0 instead |
| 23:03.48 | arrrghhh | hrm |
| 23:03.52 | arrrghhh | can i manually mount it? |
| 23:05.21 | arrrghhh | i couldn't manually mount /dev/block/mmcblk0 /sdcard. i got the same invalid argument error. |
| 23:07.00 | arrrghhh | i can't mount any of the devices listed in /dev/block to /sdcard. i get the same invalid argument on all. |
| 23:10.05 | arrrghhh | blargh |
| 23:10.15 | arrrghhh | so is this ever going to be native? i would love to ditch winmo. |
| 23:10.37 | arrrghhh | doesn't really seem like a permanent option, running it from an sd card emulated thru winmo. |
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| 23:14.06 | arrrghhh | i'm guessing it won't be truly native unless the manufacturer supports it. which htc has said pretty much, "no" |
| 23:15.12 | arrrghhh | oh well. thanks for the help tmzt. i'll try to format it in my laptop tonight, and i'll probably be back in here ;) |
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| 23:24.24 | dcordes | :) |
| 23:26.17 | lupine_85 | allo |
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| 23:36.56 | xero | megasquirt cruise control |
| 23:37.05 | xero | bah wrong window, sorry guys |
| 23:39.12 | tmzt | arrrghhh: it's not emulated, it's running on the hardware |
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