| 00:00.15 | lupine_85 | reckons that a single branch for all htcs - and then push that to the mainline kernel - would be awesome |
| 00:00.57 | lupine_85 | so I assume I can use the same Angstrom initrd... |
| 00:01.22 | nextime | blackstone fb won't work |
| 00:02.03 | dcordes | lugit checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm |
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| 00:03.48 | lupine_85 | dcordes: mm, I did thart |
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| 00:10.17 | nextime | try to recompile another kernel image |
| 00:10.40 | lupine_85 | woo, this one's built |
| 00:10.43 | lupine_85 | but will it work? :D |
| 00:12.17 | lupine_85 | hmm, it's like module code. presumably the linux kernel is sensible enough to allow it to be autobuiltin? |
| 00:12.17 | dcordes | wtf |
| 00:48.28 | lupine_85 | yay, I got it to die horribly |
| 00:48.29 | lupine_85 | bed time |
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| 06:20.19 | craig161 | hi. don't know if i'm in the right place, but trying to track down cause of error given by the proprietary HTC RIL library with Android/Dream |
| 06:22.41 | tmzt | craig161: probably not, what device is this on (Dream)? |
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| 06:22.51 | tmzt | craig161: #android might be closer |
| 06:26.36 | craig161 | yeah, it's a HTC Dream/G1. i have the debug log output from the phone and it appears to be failing inside the closed source HTC RIL library, returning a numeric error code. |
| 06:27.21 | tmzt | craig161: someone in #android should know what to do with that |
| 06:27.37 | craig161 | thanks. i'll try there also. |
| 06:28.20 | tmzt | this is more for the other htc devices with various linux-based systems |
| 06:29.49 | craig161 | ok. but i presume they all use the same/similar radio chips, and would therefore use similar drivers. |
| 06:31.19 | tmzt | it may be possible to use a different ril implementation on g1 but I don't think anyone has tried it yet |
| 06:31.53 | craig161 | yeah, i thought of that but that's a little beyond me. i'm no kernel hacker :) |
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| 11:45.38 | nextime | compiling another kernel |
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| 11:53.50 | ALoGeNo | merry cristmas |
| 11:54.50 | nextime | ALoGeNo : new htc as xmas gift? |
| 11:54.51 | nextime | :) |
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| 11:55.23 | ALoGeNo | nice |
| 11:56.21 | nextime | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:56.25 | nextime | hope with me |
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| 12:10.10 | drasar | tmzt: Are you here? |
| 12:14.13 | lupine_85 | nextime: lucky? |
| 12:18.26 | nextime | lupine_85 : bad luck in another thing |
| 12:18.42 | nextime | now winmo say that haret cannot be executed |
| 12:18.51 | nextime | so, i don't know if my kernel work |
| 12:19.06 | nextime | ( it is very strange, yesterday haret was working good ) |
| 12:19.50 | nextime | uhmm |
| 12:20.07 | nextime | also the two images of yesterday now won't work anymore |
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| 12:20.24 | lupine_85 | ho hum, might be that screwed-upness thin |
| 12:20.24 | lupine_85 | ...g |
| 12:20.27 | nextime | uhmm |
| 12:20.34 | nextime | also "putty" installed on the sd won't work |
| 12:20.43 | nextime | it seem that i can't launch anything from the sdcard today |
| 12:20.46 | nextime | i don't know why |
| 12:20.48 | lupine_85 | seems to happen from time to time, from what I've read |
| 12:20.57 | lupine_85 | solution appears to be a hard reset :) |
| 12:21.31 | nextime | random winmo things? |
| 12:21.32 | nextime | :) |
| 12:21.43 | lupine_85 | seems so |
| 12:21.53 | lupine_85 | I've only read about it in passing though |
| 12:22.27 | nextime | htc need to put 3 key on the blackstone if they want to use winmo: ctrl-alt-canc |
| 12:22.55 | nextime | hard reset isn't enough |
| 12:23.24 | lupine_85 | ctrl+alt+cancer ;) |
| 12:23.32 | nextime | nothing to do |
| 12:23.40 | nextime | everything i have on my sd |
| 12:23.43 | nextime | won't work anymore |
| 12:23.44 | nextime | grrr |
| 12:24.19 | lupine_85 | wishes the headphones that came with these phones were decent |
| 12:24.31 | lupine_85 | you'd think for this amount of money, they could stick some Bose ones in or something |
| 12:25.25 | nextime | maybe it don't like that i mount/umount the sd on a linux box in some way? |
| 12:25.36 | nextime | no, yesterday was working. |
| 12:25.48 | nextime | and it doesn't make any sense |
| 12:25.57 | lupine_85 | from what I've read, every so many boots, HaRET breaks something |
| 12:26.07 | nextime | it isn't haret |
| 12:26.19 | nextime | *every* thing i have on the sd card won't work anymore |
| 12:26.21 | lupine_85 | ...in WinMo |
| 12:26.28 | lupine_85 | preventing unsigned apps from runnin |
| 12:26.33 | nextime | ah |
| 12:26.39 | nextime | ok it is what happen |
| 12:26.47 | lupine_85 | there are several reports of it on the linux threads |
| 12:27.04 | nextime | "the file <an executable> cannot be opened.Either it is not signed..." |
| 12:27.16 | nextime | any know work-around? |
| 12:28.14 | lupine_85 | hard reset IIRC |
| 12:28.20 | lupine_85 | go have a read :) |
| 12:28.49 | nextime | heh |
| 12:28.55 | nextime | hard reset won't solve |
| 12:29.56 | lupine_85 | wonders what your reasoning is |
| 12:32.16 | lupine_85 | not very hard, though ;) - I'm busy packing for a trip to Devonshire |
| 12:36.31 | nextime | ok |
| 12:36.45 | nextime | it seem to be a problem of the powersave setting of the sdcard |
| 12:37.03 | nextime | and is resolvible by changing a registry |
| 12:37.20 | nextime | now i only need to understand where is the registry on winmo :) |
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| 12:51.53 | lupine_85 | nextime: ooh, int'rusting. registry is in the usual place but you don't get a registry editor by default |
| 12:52.15 | lupine_85 | http://www.phm.lu/Products/PocketPC/RegEdit/ is your friend |
| 12:52.38 | lupine_85 | (PocketPC 2002,2003 ARM/PXA version) |
| 12:54.55 | nextime | lupine_85 : yes, just installed the cab |
| 12:55.05 | nextime | i only need to find where it is installed to start it :) |
| 12:56.53 | lupine_85 | It shows up in the Programs menu for me |
| 12:59.25 | nextime | yes, it won't install it from the sd :P |
| 12:59.35 | nextime | i re-download it on the internal storage |
| 12:59.56 | nextime | and if i found where the fucking default browser put it it is a good thing :) |
| 13:01.45 | lupine_85 | installs an ogg player and considers his job complete |
| 13:02.08 | nextime | Installation of "regedit.Stngr_ARM.CAB" was unsuccesful. |
| 13:02.10 | nextime | ARGH |
| 13:02.43 | lupine_85 | of course, installing an unsigned app to fix a problem which prevents you from running unsigned applications, can't be the most likely thing to succeed... |
| 13:03.39 | nextime | lupine_85 : the problem shuld be only on sd |
| 13:03.51 | nextime | now i'm installing from the internal storage |
| 13:04.05 | Descention | hello all |
| 13:04.36 | nextime | no |
| 13:04.42 | nextime | it happen on whole system |
| 13:04.44 | nextime | ARGH |
| 13:05.47 | parmaster | hi |
| 13:06.03 | parmaster | just playing around with android on my new vogue |
| 13:06.21 | Descention | i'm trying to play with it on my kaiser... it keeps crashing |
| 13:06.22 | parmaster | what phone are you guys working on? |
| 13:06.34 | nextime | blackstone for me |
| 13:06.40 | nextime | so |
| 13:06.41 | lupine_85 | raphael :D |
| 13:06.48 | nextime | if i do now the hard reset |
| 13:06.49 | lupine_85 | at least, after my holidaty |
| 13:06.52 | parmaster | lupine_85: which raph |
| 13:06.52 | nextime | i will lose uspl |
| 13:06.55 | nextime | :| |
| 13:06.59 | lupine_85 | Raph100 |
| 13:07.10 | parmaster | oh cooool wish i had a raph100 also ;) |
| 13:07.27 | lupine_85 | voda are giving them out for £50 with an 18-month contract over her e:) |
| 13:07.35 | parmaster | wow! |
| 13:07.38 | lupine_85 | nextime: dunno about that |
| 13:07.56 | lupine_85 | hasdone noflashing get |
| 13:07.59 | lupine_85 | argh |
| 13:08.00 | lupine_85 | yet* |
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| 13:08.24 | lupine_85 | after turning off touchflo, it's about usable as is, so I don't want to mess too much |
| 13:08.40 | Descention | i think i'm going to be sticking with windows mobile for a while... i tried calling my phone and nothing happened |
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| 13:09.04 | lupine_85 | doesn't really get the android love |
| 13:09.06 | parmaster | everything appears to be working on mine |
| 13:09.12 | lupine_85 | angstrom, perhaps the openmoko stuff |
| 13:09.18 | lupine_85 | actual linux :) |
| 13:09.25 | parmaster | except i think people are confused about gps on the vogue |
| 13:09.32 | lupine_85 | mind you, the kernel is nice to have |
| 13:09.55 | parmaster | they talk about it having a 'chipset' which supports it.. but i don't think that there is an actual Receiver built into it |
| 13:10.29 | parmaster | yeah lupine, i agree... who want to run a bunch of java crap |
| 13:10.50 | parmaster | androids google maps is nice and fast.. but you can get the same thing for winmo 6.1 |
| 13:11.27 | parmaster | unless somebody whips out some killer app for android, i don't see much use in running it even though everthing about it is working on my phone. |
| 13:11.30 | lupine_85 | well, the ARM11 has a java acceleration instruction set which makes it a bit faster, but I don't/can't code in java |
| 13:11.46 | Descention | i code java |
| 13:11.48 | lupine_85 | (I could if I put enough effort into it, I guess) |
| 13:12.06 | lupine_85 | learning yet another set of core libraries isn't my idea of fun though |
| 13:12.25 | lupine_85 | is relatively proficient in C, C++ and Ruby among the Serious :anguages |
| 13:12.25 | parmaster | lol |
| 13:12.40 | Descention | may i help somehow? |
| 13:12.45 | lupine_85 | in fact, my living is made off of ruby right now :D |
| 13:12.52 | Descention | nice |
| 13:12.59 | lupine_85 | Descention: write us a keyboard driver for the raph100 plz? :) |
| 13:13.06 | Descention | haha |
| 13:13.13 | Descention | yea... about that... |
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| 13:15.21 | Descention | i didn't learn anything about drivers in my java classes |
| 13:15.43 | lupine_85 | heh. linux kernel doesn't take jaa |
| 13:15.46 | lupine_85 | java* |
| 13:15.49 | lupine_85 | thankfully |
| 13:16.04 | Descention | well i can't really help either way then, heh |
| 13:16.06 | lupine_85 | 'though you could probably write a userspace driver |
| 13:16.15 | lupine_85 | arm assembly? :) |
| 13:16.36 | Descention | as far as languages go, i know java, some C/C++, and PHP |
| 13:16.48 | lupine_85 | (+ intimate knowledge of windows/arm calling conventions) |
| 13:17.01 | Descention | i've used assembly before |
| 13:17.07 | Descention | i hated it... |
| 13:17.16 | lupine_85 | me too, but arm assembly is very different :/ |
| 13:18.46 | lupine_85 | has played with assembly from z80 through to x86_32, but never touched anything RISC-y |
| 13:19.09 | Descention | hehe |
| 13:20.39 | lupine_85 | ah well |
| 13:21.38 | lupine_85 | even with http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.ddi0211j/index.html to help, 'tis hard :D |
| 13:24.39 | nextime | ok |
| 13:24.45 | nextime | my kernel won't boot anymore |
| 13:24.48 | nextime | :| |
| 13:26.24 | Descention | are there any other linux kernels used with haret? other than the android kernel. |
| 13:28.24 | lupine_85 | well, they're all based on the htc-msm-2.5 branch AFAIK |
| 13:30.06 | lupine_85 | 'tis all a bit messy though |
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| 13:37.23 | Descention | why doesn't "export PATH=$PATH:~/bin" make a permenent change to my path variable? |
| 13:37.52 | lupine_85 | it does it for your particular session |
| 13:37.59 | lupine_85 | stick it in ~/.bashrc ? |
| 13:38.06 | Descention | ah, that's right |
| 13:38.29 | lupine_85 | and stick ~/bin before $PATH if you're overriding stuff installed by the package manager |
| 13:39.01 | Descention | i don't think i am |
| 13:39.13 | Descention | i'm following instructions: http://www.androidonhtc.com/get_involved |
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| 14:34.02 | nextime | pichurri : hi |
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| 14:49.27 | kirberich | mornin |
| 15:13.26 | nextime | is fighting with a blackstone |
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| 16:39.36 | tmzt | parmaster: no, gps is on the DSP chip in the msm system-on-chip, it's mostly software |
| 16:39.44 | tmzt | s/chip/core |
| 16:42.40 | tmzt | drasar: here now |
| 16:43.19 | drasar | tmzt: Great :) |
| 16:43.33 | tmzt | what is happening? |
| 16:44.57 | drasar | I am going to send my w100fb patch for hima to mainline |
| 16:45.23 | tmzt | great, can you get most of the device-dependent part in pdata? |
| 16:45.33 | tmzt | also, watch the merge procedure for arm |
| 16:45.49 | drasar | but I am not sure it needs some MFP initialization? |
| 16:46.29 | tmzt | gpio pins/alt settings? |
| 16:46.37 | tmzt | there is pxa27x-mfp for that |
| 16:47.49 | drasar | yes, I know |
| 16:48.18 | drasar | In "http://handhelds.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/linux/kernel26/arch/arm/mach-pxa/htchimalaya/himalaya.c?rev=1.33&content-type=text/plain" is some registers initialization |
| 16:48.44 | drasar | is there any relation to w100fb? |
| 16:48.52 | tmzt | right, but those registers mostly map to things already handled by pxa core |
| 16:49.34 | drasar | ok, so should I leave there just pxa_map_io()? |
| 16:49.48 | tmzt | GAFR is alt functions, those can be done with pxa27x-mfp, look at git.openezx.org, mach-pxa, ezx.c for an example |
| 16:50.22 | tmzt | GPDR is direction register, also pxa27x-mfp |
| 16:51.08 | tmzt | I think the *ERs are edge-detect or similar and are just zeroed |
| 16:51.15 | tmzt | the rest is #if 0'd out |
| 16:51.47 | drasar | I have tried it without these registers' init and it seems to work fine |
| 16:51.55 | tmzt | which device did you use for w100fb template and which kernel? |
| 16:52.10 | tmzt | device you mentioned before, jornada something? |
| 16:52.20 | drasar | e740.c and e750.c from 2.6.28 |
| 16:53.22 | tmzt | this? http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=summary |
| 16:53.23 | drasar | for example e750 uses w100fb as well and there is no MFP init |
| 16:53.24 | pichurri | nextime: hey!, how is it going? |
| 16:54.04 | tmzt | ok, the alt functions and direction are probably important but already set up by windows |
| 16:54.47 | tmzt | we should see about adding a dump mfp to haret/haretconsole to get the rest of those, they are in watch gpios in a slightly cryptic format |
| 16:55.26 | tmzt | dump mfp -> dump a 2.6.28-style pxa27x-mfp configuration |
| 16:56.40 | tmzt | the fb resources are the same a e750? |
| 16:57.49 | nextime | pichurri : i have found a patch that implement "htcblackstone" support, apparently from google people |
| 16:58.12 | nextime | but trying to compile a kernel with this patch, i can't get the linux kernel booted |
| 16:58.24 | nextime | ( remain stalled on "loading kernel..." screen ) |
| 16:58.54 | pichurri | nextime: great!, can I have it?... |
| 16:59.10 | nextime | pichurri : sure, i send it by email in 10 secs |
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| 16:59.58 | drasar | tmzt: No. Resources, modes, etc. I have used from hh20 kernel |
| 17:00.30 | nextime | pichurri : you have new mail |
| 17:01.19 | nextime | anyway, i've just tryed to patch the kernel source tree, make htcraphael_default config, and modify this config enabling support for blackstone and disabling the one for raph800 |
| 17:01.28 | nextime | this way won't boot |
| 17:01.53 | nextime | now i'm investigating hon what exactly the patch do reading the diff |
| 17:02.23 | nextime | for fb it just change resolution and nothing more as i can see at first look |
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| 17:09.38 | pichurri | nextime: I guess is done against the same repos we're using (diamond/raphael) |
| 17:10.46 | pichurri | nextime: and it defines a board-htcblackstone.c, perhaps as some ppl suggested it is a mddi problem. Patching... |
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| 17:12.06 | pichurri | nextime: I think we have to use a self cooked haret, they're using a different mtype (2030) |
| 17:12.30 | nextime | pichurri :oh right, i'm using MTYPE 1952 if i remember right |
| 17:12.44 | pichurri | nextime: 1910 |
| 17:12.49 | nextime | no, i've changed it |
| 17:13.10 | pichurri | ok, : |
| 17:13.13 | pichurri | :) |
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| 17:14.29 | nextime | 1951 |
| 17:14.56 | nextime | (http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/raphael-bootkit/default.txt |
| 17:14.58 | nextime | ) |
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| 17:31.28 | pichurri_ | nextime: I just patched, but looking at the differences I think we're still missing something, board-htcblackstone.c and board-htcraphael.c are pretty much the same... |
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| 17:32.11 | nextime | pichurri: yes, more than anything else is just more conveniente as you can select blackstone by config |
| 17:32.16 | nextime | but nothing more |
| 17:32.26 | nextime | and also it don't touch htc_fb_console |
| 17:32.36 | pichurri | nextime: yep, where did you find it? |
| 17:33.05 | nextime | pichurri : random search on google, anyway, it was on linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/ |
| 17:33.06 | pichurri | that doesn't bother me too much, its a temporal fb output, for early kernel messages only... |
| 17:33.44 | nextime | pichurri : anyway, for me it seem that the image of yesterday it is working better :) |
| 17:33.55 | nextime | at least apparently |
| 17:34.01 | tmzt | it's not required to patch haret, just add set MTYPE xx to default.txt/startup.txt |
| 17:34.15 | tmzt | (can't find the original question) |
| 17:34.34 | nextime | yes, and mtype of blackstone is 1951 |
| 17:34.47 | nextime | as i can see on the same site where i found the patch |
| 17:37.30 | pichurri | actually I think two ppl registered the blackstone twice... |
| 17:37.58 | pichurri | I mean, the mtype |
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| 17:43.57 | nextime | nothing todo, with the pathced kernel the boot just won't go |
| 17:44.10 | nextime | haret freezed at "Go Go Go..." stage |
| 17:44.14 | nextime | and nothing more |
| 17:46.26 | pichurri | nextime: did you change the mtype on the haret's default.txt ? |
| 17:47.07 | pichurri | and look: http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/ , we have two!!! 1951 and 2030 ...jajajaja |
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| 17:49.16 | nextime | yep |
| 17:50.14 | nextime | pichurri: i found a thread where someone say that sometime with some specific roms the boot hang with haret at 100%, that is exactly what happen to me. Which rom do you have installed? maybe what isn't working for me can work for you... |
| 17:50.36 | tmzt | what has changed between when the x1 and blackstone were working and now? |
| 17:50.51 | tmzt | or, blackstone was working with x1 kernel I mean |
| 17:52.07 | pichurri | nextime: I'm using RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.19.831.0_Radio_52.49a.25.26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe ... |
| 17:52.10 | dcordes | hola |
| 17:52.21 | pichurri | nextime: I'm going to compile and test... |
| 17:52.24 | nextime | pichurri : the same as me... |
| 17:52.46 | dcordes | nextime: raphael-bootkit is outdated :) ? |
| 17:53.13 | pichurri | dcordes: hey, I see that you have a patch for blackstone (http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff_htc-msm-2.6.25_blackstone-venus_122208.diff) |
| 17:53.28 | nextime | dcordes : we are experimenting with blackstone |
| 17:53.38 | dcordes | pichurri: yea I've seen it yesterday |
| 17:53.47 | nextime | dcordes : sadly won't boot |
| 17:54.08 | nextime | ( with this patch, plain diamond kernel image boot, but with fb issues ) |
| 17:54.12 | dcordes | maybe something with the mach type is wrong |
| 17:54.41 | dcordes | nextime: you have the diamond too? |
| 17:54.44 | pichurri | dcordes: I think the haret we're using doesn't have the right mtype table, outdated |
| 17:54.45 | nextime | dcordes : no |
| 17:54.47 | nextime | only a blackstone |
| 17:54.55 | dcordes | I did the patch just to outline how I would like to add the venus and blackstone to htc-msm-2.6.25 |
| 17:55.39 | dcordes | so let's update haret |
| 17:55.42 | pichurri | dcordes: thanx, I'll add it, so that now we have a mtype and all our own(blackstone) stuff/config |
| 17:56.16 | dcordes | yea it's better two have own machines. now at the beginning it might not be needed, but as more machine specific stuff is added.. |
| 17:56.20 | pichurri | ok, I have the environment, just need time, :) |
| 17:56.34 | nextime | me too |
| 17:56.44 | pichurri | true |
| 17:56.44 | nextime | but tomorrow i will go in vacation for one week |
| 17:56.50 | dcordes | I wonder if we can add haret to org.openembedded.dev |
| 17:56.50 | pichurri | nooooooo!!! |
| 17:56.52 | pichurri | :) |
| 17:56.55 | nextime | and my wife will not let me pass all the vacation in front of a pc |
| 17:56.56 | nextime | :) |
| 17:57.26 | tekkdrone | mine will :D |
| 17:57.26 | tekkdrone | muahahahaha |
| 17:57.29 | tekkdrone | as long as I break for a movie every couple days ... |
| 17:57.43 | parmaster | haha |
| 17:57.50 | nextime | tekkdrone : usually also mine, but as i do it all the rest of the years.... |
| 17:58.12 | tekkdrone | lol aye, we JUST saw dark night 2 nights ago... I'm terrible... |
| 17:58.20 | tekkdrone | dark knight, even |
| 17:58.39 | dcordes | I would like to see transporter3 in german |
| 17:59.03 | pichurri | dcordes: have you played with the fb code, I sent an email to Octavian Voicu, I think its druidu, but the email address bounced... |
| 17:59.04 | nextime | tekkdrone : consider also that i pass all the day in front of a pc, and all the night in front of a telescope |
| 17:59.05 | nextime | :D |
| 17:59.22 | tekkdrone | ahhh |
| 17:59.45 | tekkdrone | 'elo dcordes btw apache's ffuart isn't muxed but I got it workin' :) |
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| 18:00.22 | dcordes | tekkdrone: 'lo what's the ff in ffuart? |
| 18:00.33 | tekkdrone | full function |
| 18:01.24 | dcordes | well that's nice. did you see the fso image I upped? tmzt proposed to try frameworkd with the apache radio |
| 18:01.39 | tekkdrone | no, linuxtogo site? |
| 18:02.01 | dcordes | yea wait a minute |
| 18:02.04 | tekkdrone | I'd never been there until someone in here directed me, still haven't fully explored the projects |
| 18:03.31 | dcordes | apache is cdma counterpart of which device? |
| 18:03.46 | tekkdrone | it doesn't have an evil twin |
| 18:03.48 | tekkdrone | >.> |
| 18:04.01 | tekkdrone | apache was US only IIRC |
| 18:04.08 | dcordes | I'm confusing with hima vs ba then |
| 18:04.38 | tekkdrone | apache's pxa270, msm6500c, 64/64 - a.k.k 6700 |
| 18:04.43 | tekkdrone | a.k.a* |
| 18:05.11 | tekkdrone | after a month working with it, it's clear why everyone stopped developing for it |
| 18:05.15 | tekkdrone | quite. |
| 18:05.30 | dcordes | because of the uart pita? |
| 18:06.39 | tekkdrone | partially, partially because of pxa270's errata and quirks |
| 18:06.39 | tmzt | physically wizard I think |
| 18:06.53 | tmzt | completely different internally though |
| 18:06.57 | dcordes | btw, since when is gsm so popular in the usa and who pushed the distribution? tmob? |
| 18:06.58 | nextime | pichurri : is the "blackstone patched" kernel booting for you? |
| 18:07.10 | nextime | ( at least as we have booted the diamond one yesterday ) |
| 18:07.13 | tmzt | ba also had harrier which is the ppc6600, apache is ppc6700 |
| 18:07.39 | nextime | get's confused by the "apache" word |
| 18:07.53 | tekkdrone | dcordes: tmob and att/cingular are gsm |
| 18:08.00 | tekkdrone | have been forever |
| 18:08.03 | tmzt | dcordes: at&t wireless (attws) -> cingular -> at&t |
| 18:08.07 | tekkdrone | aye |
| 18:08.22 | tekkdrone | nextime: apache = htc apache = ppc6700 = xv6700 |
| 18:08.43 | tekkdrone | 2-3 year old xscale ppc phone |
| 18:08.44 | nextime | tekkdrone : yes, i'm just too apache==webserver addicted |
| 18:08.45 | nextime | :D |
| 18:08.46 | tmzt | ppc6800 is titan |
| 18:08.48 | pichurri | nextime: havent tried...:P |
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| 18:14.36 | dcordes | apache == titan ? that can't be right |
| 18:14.47 | dcordes | tekkdrone: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/htckaiser/Angstrom-fso-console-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20081221-htckaiser.rootfs.tar.gz |
| 18:15.34 | dcordes | tekkdrone: in /etc/frameworkd.conf I set modem type to qualcomm_msm run 'frameworkd -s ogsmd -d and in |
| 18:15.52 | dcordes | cli-framework dial using the fso dbus commands. works perfectly on msm7200 kaiser |
| 18:16.30 | dcordes | gsmcall.Initiate('number','voice') |
| 18:16.51 | tmzt | dcordes: no, ppc6800 is titan, ppc6700 is apache, ppc6600 is harrier |
| 18:17.45 | tekkdrone | as long as frameworkd.conf allows me to change the tty's no problem |
| 18:18.14 | tekkdrone | though I guess I could symlink if needed |
| 18:18.26 | dcordes | tekkdrone: tty is set in the modem.py of your selected modem type |
| 18:18.35 | tekkdrone | gotcha |
| 18:18.46 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:19.26 | dcordes | you might set loglevel to DEBUG, log to file and set a log_destination |
| 18:19.29 | tmzt | symlink should work fine |
| 18:19.47 | tekkdrone | on apache, ttyS0 is the nonmuxed AT channel, ttyUSB0 is the data channel on the msm, will this framework allow that configuration? |
| 18:19.49 | danboid | Whats the name of the 'bootloader' used to load Linux on HTC phones? |
| 18:19.59 | tekkdrone | hare |
| 18:20.01 | tekkdrone | haret* |
| 18:20.21 | danboid | tekkdrone: Oh yes! THat was it! Thanks! |
| 18:20.22 | tekkdrone | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET |
| 18:20.56 | dcordes | tekkdrone: sounds good. msm7200 uses singleline AT too and a seperate tty for data |
| 18:21.02 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.04 | tmzt | danboid: which phone are you using? |
| 18:21.17 | dcordes | but data doesn't work yet. (the part where it calls pppd) |
| 18:21.27 | tekkdrone | ahh it does on apache :D |
| 18:21.37 | tekkdrone | (but I have to do it manually with pppd at the moment) |
| 18:21.52 | danboid | Please remind me just how haret works again? It clears the existing OS from memory to free it up for Linux doesn't it? |
| 18:21.59 | dcordes | tekkdrone: yea manually works for me on the kaiser too. but not with frameworkd. ppp segfaults |
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| 18:22.22 | tekkdrone | gotcha, I'll be sure to use those logging options |
| 18:22.39 | tekkdrone | danboid: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 18:23.09 | danboid | tmzt: Actually I've got an N95-1 and I'm wondering when someones going to get Android working on it! |
| 18:23.20 | tmzt | cool |
| 18:23.23 | tekkdrone | afk a min dcordes, got some family stopping by, I'll check out frameworkd shortly :) |
| 18:23.33 | dcordes | tekkdrone: hold up... this image won't work on apache. it's armv6-novfp |
| 18:23.43 | danboid | tmzt: Oh yes it is but the memory management under symbian STINKS |
| 18:23.46 | tmzt | someone has a page about it with some kind of encrypted bootloader symb2and or and2symb.blogspot.com |
| 18:24.05 | dcordes | danboid: you need armv4 ? |
| 18:24.24 | tmzt | it's omap11xx or omap850? |
| 18:24.30 | danboid | dcordes: I think n95 is arm11 innit? |
| 18:24.48 | dcordes | sorry that's for tekk |
| 18:24.50 | tekkdrone | noted, yeah I'm v5te |
| 18:25.01 | tekkdrone | no not v4 |
| 18:25.21 | tmzt | not v6-novfp though |
| 18:25.32 | dcordes | ok I will cook you a fso-console-image for v5te with latest frameworkd-devel |
| 18:25.54 | danboid | tmzt: Oh wow! Is that really a working Android port! Does it work with n95-1? I've hacked mine if thats required |
| 18:26.00 | nextime | gh |
| 18:26.23 | dcordes | danboid: you boot linux on n95? |
| 18:26.26 | tmzt | I don't know, I can't tell from his page |
| 18:26.44 | nextime | i just noted that my blackstone has passed more time with the rear closure open and with a partially working linux kernel that with the closure closed and with winmo |
| 18:26.46 | nextime | :P |
| 18:27.10 | dcordes | ~hail nextime |
| 18:27.11 | apt | ACTION bows down to nextime and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:27.25 | dcordes | needs foodstuffs |
| 18:27.27 | dcordes | bbl |
| 18:27.47 | tmzt | danboid: you have a bootloader? |
| 18:28.33 | tekkdrone | same here, bbiab, family stoppin' in |
| 18:29.00 | nextime | is going to take a pizza |
| 18:29.02 | danboid | dcordes/ tmtz: I saw a video of someone booting Android on a N95 but no-one on symbian freak knew anything about it- we thought it could be a hoax and there is a java android simulator that I've found so maybe it was that? |
| 18:29.25 | danboid | but no-one linked to that sym2and page... |
| 18:29.33 | danboid | I'll check it out but |
| 18:30.10 | danboid | I'd need phone/MMS, GPS and MP4 video all working before I could stop using crappy s60 |
| 18:30.33 | danboid | and there is a wicked python port for s60 too |
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| 18:30.58 | tmzt | that will need omap phone support which is being worked on but is not working |
| 18:31.08 | tmzt | the shared memory tty interface |
| 18:31.14 | danboid | bah! |
| 18:31.39 | danboid | you talking to me tmzt? I didn't think the n95 was an omap device? |
| 18:31.52 | danboid | I know omap is arm |
| 18:31.54 | tmzt | what is it, I have been trying to find out for sure |
| 18:32.46 | danboid | Its a dual-core arm11 @ 333Mhz |
| 18:33.14 | tmzt | two arm11 cores? |
| 18:33.20 | danboid | yeah! |
| 18:33.26 | danboid | whipper |
| 18:33.27 | tmzt | what baseband? |
| 18:34.32 | pichurri | nextime: have to go, I'll get into the patch/haret tomorrow...:p duty calls |
| 18:34.43 | pichurri | bye |
| 18:35.15 | danboid | tmzt: http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n95-1716.php |
| 18:37.08 | danboid | I got mine for £50!!! (off my bro- no he's not got any more :) |
| 18:37.31 | danboid | keep me busy whilst I wait for the Pandora |
| 18:39.43 | danboid | What are the chances I'll be able to get a build of TomTom or Garmin that will work under arm11 Linux (if this n95 Linux port is real) |
| 18:39.53 | danboid | and it supports my GPS of course |
| 18:40.01 | danboid | (which it prob won't yet) |
| 18:40.36 | danboid | I know people got TomTom running on the Zaurus |
| 18:41.08 | danboid | but that wasn't arm11 - arm9 I think they were |
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| 18:44.33 | danboid | tmzt: Awww! Properly checked out that link at it does indeed seemto be ahoax - no link to packages or code that I can see and this is reflected in the comments |
| 18:45.06 | tmzt | no idea what the encrypted zip is supposed to be |
| 18:45.19 | danboid | ? Where? |
| 18:45.59 | danboid | which zip? |
| 18:46.24 | tmzt | on that weblog in the final post, of course if there was bootloader the linux kernel could almost certainly be made to work |
| 18:49.31 | danboid | You mean apidemos.pea- I just downloading it now but its only 240Kb. Yeah youcould fit a bootloader in that but... |
| 18:55.17 | dcordes | ~seen craig161 |
| 18:55.19 | apt | craig161 <n=craig@229.224.233.220.exetel.com.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 12h 23m 26s ago, saying: 'yeah, i thought of that but that's a little beyond me. i'm no kernel hacker :)'. |
| 18:57.19 | danboid | tmzt: Yup, as the comments say its password protected. The guy is obviously full of shit or else he'd tell people the password. |
| 18:58.44 | danboid | I'm not going to bother trying to find the password as I think it'd be a total waste of time |
| 19:00.12 | tmzt | http://forum2.mobile-review.com/showthread.php?t=54791&page=20 |
| 19:00.24 | tmzt | this says omap2420 |
| 19:09.06 | danboid | omap2420 is arm11 based |
| 19:10.36 | tmzt | right, but it still helps to know more about the soc and not just the arm core |
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| 19:14.28 | danboid | Seems the 2420 datasheets are under NDA |
| 19:14.58 | danboid | So I dunno whats going to happen with Pandora... |
| 19:15.00 | tmzt | yeah, I forgot that claimed to have data access |
| 19:15.24 | danboid | I know the GPU will be closed but we'll see about its wifi and bt |
| 19:16.27 | dcordes | danboid: pandora has ti1251 |
| 19:16.55 | dcordes | just like kaiser raphael dream etc |
| 19:17.06 | dcordes | (wifi) |
| 19:18.19 | danboid | oh right- is there an open linux driver for that? |
| 19:19.05 | danboid | dcordes: You got/ getting one? |
| 19:19.35 | dcordes | danboid: yes. for the tmob g1 (dream/trout) |
| 19:19.44 | dcordes | in the andr0id kernel tree |
| 19:20.16 | tmzt | same as beagle or that doesn't have wifi? |
| 19:20.27 | dcordes | beagle has no onboard wifi |
| 19:20.53 | danboid | Shame they didn't go for hdmi on the pand too eh? Beagle has it |
| 19:21.45 | tmzt | does beagle have sata host? |
| 19:22.35 | dcordes | not on board |
| 19:22.47 | dcordes | danboid: hdmi on the pand? |
| 19:23.04 | danboid | nope |
| 19:23.16 | danboid | thee |
| 19:23.23 | danboid | theres no sata on beagle |
| 19:23.35 | tmzt | the hdmi is only used as a dvi connector though? |
| 19:23.38 | danboid | and no hdmi on pandora |
| 19:23.48 | danboid | yes i think so |
| 19:24.11 | danboid | but I don't have one and beagle is still in development realy |
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| 19:25.16 | dcordes | tmzt: there are i2c pins wired to the hdmi too |
| 19:25.23 | danboid | hdmi audio is almost non-existant under Linux anyway- I don't think any of the chipsets that do claim to do it do it fully |
| 19:25.55 | danboid | I mean the drives aren't up to scratch- intel, amd, nvidia.. |
| 19:26.19 | danboid | so I can't see beagle doing that |
| 19:26.23 | danboid | yet |
| 19:26.55 | tmzt | does it work better with newer alsa? |
| 19:27.01 | danboid | phoronix had a feature on it recently |
| 19:28.46 | danboid | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_hdmi&num=1 |
| 19:29.22 | danboid | Who wrote haret btw? |
| 19:29.31 | dcordes | Kevin2 |
| 19:29.44 | Kevin2 | Hi |
| 19:29.46 | miknix | hdmi sound works fine on my laptop |
| 19:30.01 | dcordes | Hi Kevin2 |
| 19:30.10 | miknix | it is a intel hda chipset |
| 19:30.13 | danboid | Hi Kevin2! |
| 19:30.21 | danboid | miknix: Cool |
| 19:30.46 | miknix | hello all, btw |
| 19:30.50 | danboid | Kevin2- do you know if anyone has got Linux toboot under s60v3 / n95-1 |
| 19:31.14 | Kevin2 | I added a lot of features to haret - the original author was Andrew Zabolotny. |
| 19:31.24 | danboid | oh right |
| 19:31.43 | danboid | Kevin2: You had a play with an n95 or similiar? |
| 19:31.58 | dcordes | hello miknix |
| 19:32.02 | Kevin2 | danboid: I haven't even heard of the machine. :-) I haven't had time to work on my phone (htc apache / htc hermes) in a long time. |
| 19:32.08 | tmzt | danboid: has anyone tried earlier symbian linux code? |
| 19:32.11 | dcordes | iphone hacking lecture http://theora.ccctu.be:8000/saal1.ogm |
| 19:32.13 | tmzt | danboid: bootloader code |
| 19:32.46 | danboid | I know people have had linux running on the siemens n-73 |
| 19:33.07 | danboid | but thats an older symbian version I think |
| 19:33.29 | danboid | I'm no expert on this |
| 19:33.53 | danboid | thought you guys might know summat |
| 19:34.12 | miknix | does someone know a place to buy leds for cheap within europe? |
| 19:34.28 | miknix | local shop wants almost 1 euro for each |
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| 19:57.17 | dcordes | so now that mmc works on the raphael, somebody tried wifi? |
| 19:59.50 | tmzt | dcordes: you got the information there is no sdcmux, right? |
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| 20:00.47 | dcordes | tmzt: wouldn't that mean trout can't use wifi and sd simultaneously? |
| 20:01.04 | tmzt | no, there a four sdc controllers each with two clocks |
| 20:01.16 | tmzt | they just used one on halibut with the sdcmux |
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| 20:14.17 | danboid | Here's a list of devices supported by linux on sx1 |
| 20:14.20 | danboid | http://linux-on-sx1.wiki.sourceforge.net/Hardware_Reference+ |
| 20:14.38 | danboid | same linux can run on Neo Freerunner |
| 20:14.51 | tmzt | what? |
| 20:15.09 | danboid | I need to email the author of this app to see if he knows why it doesn't work on n95 |
| 20:15.29 | tmzt | danboid: what app? |
| 20:15.51 | tmzt | Siemens X1, not Sony, ok |
| 20:17.03 | danboid | ubootloader its called |
| 20:17.23 | tmzt | ah, so that's a symbian phone? |
| 20:17.23 | dcordes | tmzt: I don't really understand it. in msm7201a the four sdcc controllers have only two clocks? |
| 20:17.33 | tmzt | dcordes: each has two clocks |
| 20:17.37 | danboid | Yeah, sx-1 is a symbian |
| 20:18.02 | dcordes | tmzt: so there are eight clocks for sd in total? |
| 20:18.08 | tmzt | yes |
| 20:18.19 | dcordes | what's the use of two clocks for one controlleR? |
| 20:18.28 | tmzt | but they are usually accessed through proc_comm or rpc |
| 20:18.32 | tmzt | PCLK and CLK |
| 20:18.58 | tmzt | I think one is on the msm side and the other is the clock for the card (PCLK?) |
| 20:21.27 | dcordes | so where's the problem about wifi on raphael? |
| 20:22.22 | tmzt | I believe it's amss differences don't allow the trout code to work |
| 20:22.37 | tmzt | so maejrep is working with the clock regs directly, but there is no information on clocks available |
| 20:23.00 | tmzt | cr2 has the formulas and they were pasted here |
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| 20:23.31 | dcordes | yea I've seen that. I think lavender.t works with that |
| 20:23.41 | dcordes | trying to make use of it on android |
| 20:24.09 | tmzt | right, but we need the clock regs for all the sdc controllers being used |
| 20:24.18 | tmzt | there may also be gpios controlling the wifi |
| 20:25.16 | dcordes | s/android/diamond/ |
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| 20:31.05 | tmzt | danboid: it looks very different, omap310 with a seperate baseband |
| 20:35.11 | tmzt | http://www.phonewreck.com/2008/11/20/nokia-n95-teardown/ |
| 20:36.34 | tmzt | could it be calypso? does n95 have umts/wcdma? |
| 20:38.01 | tmzt | ah, so it does |
| 20:38.10 | tmzt | does have 3g |
| 20:38.43 | dcordes | CSD, HSCSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA |
| 20:38.50 | danboid | Ask not what the n95 has, but what it has not :) |
| 20:38.56 | tmzt | so it can't be calypso |
| 20:38.56 | dcordes | GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS850, UMTS1900 |
| 20:39.20 | tmzt | the article says unnamed TI baseband |
| 20:39.46 | tmzt | but at least it is probably on uart and might have gsm0710 mux |
| 20:40.46 | dcordes | on the n95 teardown picture, top left corner, wtf is that? |
| 20:40.48 | dcordes | antenna? |
| 20:41.02 | dcordes | phonewreck logo |
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| 21:51.34 | tmzt | tekkdrone: have you tried a 2.6.27 or .28 kernel yet? |
| 21:52.10 | tekkdrone | no, I haven't |
| 21:52.30 | tmzt | it looks like hima is working with it |
| 21:53.36 | tekkdrone | ought not be as bad to jump from 25 to 27 as it was coming up from 21 |
| 21:53.39 | tmzt | so we can get a branch on ltg and begin to upstream hima and apache at least |
| 21:53.50 | tmzt | oh, you are working on .25 then? |
| 21:54.07 | tekkdrone | aye, i'm using the official vanilla .25 source |
| 21:54.15 | tmzt | cool, ok |
| 21:54.22 | tekkdrone | with apache code ported in piece by piece >_< |
| 21:54.31 | tmzt | based on magician? |
| 21:54.45 | tekkdrone | based on kevin's old apache code from hh |
| 21:54.52 | tekkdrone | which i think is based on magician code |
| 21:55.06 | tmzt | it was based on an ipaq or something |
| 21:55.09 | tekkdrone | and your ohci tip ;) |
| 21:55.22 | tmzt | magician is the upstreamed htc device in the linus kernel |
| 21:55.57 | tekkdrone | I've looked at the magician code a decent bit, not the modules though |
| 21:56.21 | tekkdrone | spitz and lubbock too, in my quest for understanding, you could say |
| 21:56.39 | tmzt | sure |
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| 22:16.29 | lupine_85 | heee |
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| 22:23.09 | lupine_85 | lo dcordes_ |
| 22:23.54 | lupine_85 | exeter is all exeter-y |
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| 23:07.29 | nextime | any good new? we have android fully working? |
| 23:07.36 | nextime | s/new/news/ |
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| 23:17.03 | tmzt | nextime: on which device? |
| 23:17.22 | nextime | tmzt : it was a joke |
| 23:17.29 | nextime | anyway, i have a blackstone |
| 23:18.15 | tmzt | ah |
| 23:18.58 | tmzt | is kernel still working? |
| 23:20.59 | nextime | more or less yes |
| 23:21.14 | nextime | we can boot the diamond kernel |
| 23:21.22 | nextime | and we have usbnet working |
| 23:21.28 | nextime | ( i can ssh in the device ) |
| 23:21.36 | nextime | but we have issue with frame buffer |
| 23:21.40 | dcordes_ | can you read and write /dev/smd0 ? |
| 23:21.53 | nextime | dcordes_ : no tryed yet |
| 23:21.58 | dcordes_ | can you? |
| 23:22.07 | nextime | dcordes_ yes, wait |
| 23:23.39 | lupine_85 | hopes more will be working when he gets to his real pc again :D |
| 23:23.41 | nextime | dcordes_ : yes, we can |
| 23:24.00 | nextime | the main problem is the frame buffer |
| 23:24.04 | nextime | we can get it work |
| 23:24.32 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 23:25.30 | nextime | dcordes_ : want you ssh in my device? |
| 23:26.01 | dcordes_ | no thanks. I don't know what I could try |
| 23:26.11 | dcordes_ | you can try frameworkd though |
| 23:26.46 | nextime | heh, sadly i don't have time to do anything before 4 january |
| 23:26.56 | nextime | ( tomorrow i will go in vacation for the end of the year ) |
| 23:27.42 | nextime | actually i really need to finish to config the phone with win mobile just to have a fully working phone for those days, hoping that when i come back i will find the time to work on it seriously to make android work |
| 23:29.06 | nextime | uhmm |
| 23:29.25 | nextime | to install things on winmo, the right "version" is pocketpc or smarphone? |
| 23:29.31 | nextime | ( i'm really new to winmo ) |
| 23:31.03 | lupine_85 | pocketpc has touchscreen, smartphone does not, afaik |
| 23:31.03 | dcordes_ | ppc. I think smartphone is without touchscreen and dialpad only |
| 23:31.26 | lupine_85 | but i've been doing this for under a week too ;) |
| 23:31.53 | nextime | ok |
| 23:32.03 | nextime | so now i just need to make voip and openvpn work |
| 23:32.08 | nextime | i have putty |
| 23:32.24 | nextime | when those three thing are installed i'm ok for one week :) |
| 23:32.53 | |Jason8| | . |
| 23:33.29 | dcordes_ | audio routing allows voip usage in wince? |
| 23:33.41 | lupine_85 | needs another few hundred*hundred pixels :D |
| 23:33.45 | nextime | it shuld |
| 23:34.19 | lupine_85 | speaking of audio routing, i have a bluetooth headset now |
| 23:34.43 | dcordes_ | somebody tried raphael bluetooth? |
| 23:34.49 | lupine_85 | and for the life of me, i can't make it the default audio output device |
| 23:35.08 | lupine_85 | erm, in winmo |
| 23:35.08 | dcordes_ | is it connected with uart? |
| 23:35.17 | lupine_85 | OT i guess |
| 23:35.34 | dcordes_ | nvm |
| 23:35.51 | dcordes_ | can't help though, never used bluetooth device with my kaiser |
| 23:35.54 | lupine_85 | i shall play with bluetooth once i'm back home. maybe |
| 23:37.25 | lupine_85 | it temporarily routes audio through the headset when the voice dial thingy is up |
| 23:37.35 | lupine_85 | is annoying :D |
| 23:39.49 | nextime | a good mailclient for winmo? |
| 23:43.37 | lupine_85 | no such thing as a good mail client :p |
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| 23:49.05 | nextime | uhmm |
| 23:49.07 | nextime | bad thing |
| 23:49.16 | nextime | my rom don't have voip things |
| 23:49.21 | nextime | ufff |
| 23:49.29 | nextime | i don't want to change the rom just for voip |
| 23:52.53 | nextime | ok, i can use sjphone |
| 23:52.54 | nextime | :) |
| 23:56.06 | dcordes_ | logread does the same das dmesg? |
| 23:56.29 | dcordes_ | as |
| 23:56.45 | nextime | shuld me more generic |
| 23:57.01 | nextime | reading syslog and syslog generated files if i remember right |
| 23:59.05 | dcordes_ | although I have a syslogd process, logread says can't find syslogd buffer, function not implemented |