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| 10:25.32 | NetRipper | lavender.t got internal storage to mount on his diamond - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3058732&postcount=1128 |
| 10:25.36 | NetRipper | for anyone interested |
| 10:29.02 | tmzt_ | nice, have you been able to use sd? |
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| 13:18.25 | NetRipper | tmzt_ no, im hoping lavener.t will put up a patch |
| 13:18.31 | NetRipper | so i can play with it again |
| 13:19.05 | NetRipper | on raphael i at least found that wifi is on SDIO 0, and sd on SDIO 1 |
| 13:20.04 | NetRipper | and when i try to use sd card, a few commands work, but others dont.. and somehow it gives a message that the sd card supports lower voltages than the host does, but it says it ignores that ;) |
| 13:20.13 | NetRipper | so it seems to communicate |
| 13:20.35 | NetRipper | but i have no experience on timings and clocks, so i hope to speak lavender so he can tell me what i have to experiment with ;) |
| 13:21.26 | NetRipper | he's asleep now though, so probably until tonight ;) |
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| 20:12.34 | dcordes | NetRipper, ping |
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| 20:14.54 | dcordes | NetRipper, do you have the diamond mmc patch? |
| 20:15.01 | NetRipper | no |
| 20:15.43 | dcordes | k |
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| 20:17.46 | dcordes | speak of the devil |
| 20:17.57 | dcordes | hi lavender-t |
| 20:18.04 | lavender-t | hi dcordes |
| 20:18.24 | dcordes | so you got the diamond nand on sdcc working? |
| 20:18.37 | lavender-t | yeah. looks to be good so far |
| 20:19.00 | lavender-t | though i havent got time to make clear a couple timing issues yet |
| 20:19.39 | dcordes | would you like access to the linuxtogo git? |
| 20:19.41 | lavender-t | i added some more delays after setting the CLK_CTL registers |
| 20:19.48 | NetRipper | ah |
| 20:19.59 | lavender-t | that seemed to be able to stablize the mmc thing quite a bit |
| 20:20.06 | NetRipper | diff diff diff |
| 20:20.06 | NetRipper | ;p |
| 20:20.10 | dcordes | do you use the trout CLK_CTL registers? |
| 20:20.31 | lavender-t | no i used the code from kaiser/vogue |
| 20:20.51 | dcordes | from the htc-vogue branch? |
| 20:20.56 | lavender-t | i tried trout yesterday too. too much of trouble :( |
| 20:21.02 | lavender-t | yeah. |
| 20:21.27 | dcordes | ok the clock things and stuff there are mostly vogue (msm7500)specific |
| 20:21.49 | lavender-t | hm that's why i didnt know how to tweak the values |
| 20:22.04 | lavender-t | so yesterday i did the other way around. |
| 20:22.25 | lavender-t | i keeped the vogue A0/A4 values |
| 20:22.48 | lavender-t | assuming the freq divider is computed the same for the 7x00 |
| 20:23.27 | lavender-t | so with the diamond's 528MHz main freq, it should be 1.32 times that of the 400MHz of vogue |
| 20:23.54 | dcordes | wow :) |
| 20:24.01 | lavender-t | so i changed the mmc f_min and f_max values to match the values |
| 20:24.33 | lavender-t | also added more delays after setting the timers |
| 20:24.44 | lavender-t | then it worked :) |
| 20:24.54 | dcordes | that's just great |
| 20:24.59 | NetRipper | indeed |
| 20:25.06 | dcordes | did you try similar values for the other sdcc? |
| 20:25.09 | lavender-t | i'm still not sure why the delay matters |
| 20:25.11 | dcordes | and init msm_sdcc ? |
| 20:25.21 | lavender-t | so i'm gonna investigate a little more. |
| 20:25.22 | dcordes | I mean init the other ocntorller |
| 20:25.33 | NetRipper | maybe arm9 that picks up the values and actually sets the clock? |
| 20:25.37 | dcordes | maybe the 7201a AMSS is just slower :) |
| 20:25.48 | lavender-t | yeah. i hardcoded for my build. |
| 20:26.04 | lavender-t | but i saw a couple kernel parameters that does that too |
| 20:26.20 | dcordes | AMSS versions ? |
| 20:26.36 | NetRipper | lavender-t, can you make a diff, so i can see if it does something for my raph sd as well? |
| 20:27.05 | lavender-t | sure. :) |
| 20:27.22 | dcordes | of course, how could I forget the diamond nand on sdcc replaces mmc |
| 20:27.24 | lavender-t | but raphael is a little different i think |
| 20:27.35 | dcordes | you think it needs other clocks? |
| 20:27.54 | NetRipper | you got any tips on what to do for raphael? |
| 20:27.55 | lavender-t | from your messages you were seeing corrupted values |
| 20:28.24 | NetRipper | hm |
| 20:28.29 | lavender-t | which means the clocked looked to be even far away from what makes the mmc working |
| 20:28.59 | NetRipper | do you mean values like the "0" returned by cmd1? and the return value -110 etc? |
| 20:29.05 | NetRipper | im not sure what to look at |
| 20:29.27 | lavender-t | i also see the CMD8, CMD5 and CMD55 timeouts in diamond |
| 20:29.33 | NetRipper | oh |
| 20:29.45 | lavender-t | but they dont seem to matter |
| 20:29.51 | NetRipper | but some other CMD's work? |
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| 20:31.00 | lavender-t | CMD8 is to get the EXT_CSD. but since the diamond mmc is built-in, if we have the parameters correct it works too. |
| 20:31.43 | lavender-t | yeah. the other commands worked ok, esp the data reading. |
| 20:32.23 | NetRipper | external clock? |
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| 20:33.00 | NetRipper | as in, sd card clock |
| 20:33.03 | lavender-t | yeah. the clock is what bothers me most. i dont really have a clue how to set the A0/A4 values. |
| 20:33.21 | NetRipper | there's something about that in the arch-msm/common.c |
| 20:33.36 | lavender-t | but the mmc has a range of frequency that it can support. |
| 20:33.37 | NetRipper | uh |
| 20:33.38 | NetRipper | i thought |
| 20:33.40 | NetRipper | im wrong |
| 20:33.40 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 20:33.45 | NetRipper | yes |
| 20:34.10 | NetRipper | on which sd is movinand for you? sdio0 or 1? |
| 20:34.29 | lavender-t | 1 (the 2nd :) ). |
| 20:34.32 | NetRipper | ok |
| 20:34.38 | NetRipper | that's good |
| 20:34.41 | NetRipper | same for raph |
| 20:35.02 | NetRipper | there's some special handling when sd is on 1 |
| 20:35.03 | lavender-t | if you see the error code of CRC error, then you have a sd there :) |
| 20:35.04 | NetRipper | uh |
| 20:35.04 | NetRipper | 0 |
| 20:35.11 | NetRipper | ah ok |
| 20:35.15 | lavender-t | just the freq is not correct. |
| 20:35.15 | NetRipper | and i do see that ;) |
| 20:35.43 | lavender-t | ok let me do the diff now. :) |
| 20:35.51 | NetRipper | ok :) |
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| 20:38.44 | NetRipper | dcordes, something else - how can we best differentiate between raph100 and raph800 in code? like ifdefs? or mtype? |
| 20:39.33 | dcordes | imho, if mddi is the only thing that needs raph800 specific change we should avoid the own machine type |
| 20:40.04 | NetRipper | own machine type will give troubles, as we can't use the auto-generated thing, can we? |
| 20:40.11 | dcordes | but I think that is unlikely because raph800 sure has different smem setup and will therefore need own smem code |
| 20:40.34 | dcordes | we could just register a raph800 mtype |
| 20:40.42 | NetRipper | oh |
| 20:40.43 | NetRipper | ok |
| 20:41.07 | dcordes | do you know if AT read works on raph800 as on raph100? |
| 20:41.19 | NetRipper | no i don't |
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| 20:41.33 | NetRipper | we can ask someone to try on forum |
| 20:42.28 | dcordes | you could explain how you tried on 100 and what happened so raph800 owners can easily compare |
| 20:42.58 | NetRipper | make sure you're logged into the network in winmo |
| 20:43.02 | NetRipper | (i.e. you entered your pin) |
| 20:43.07 | NetRipper | then simply boot angstrom and cat /dev/smd0 |
| 20:43.11 | dcordes | I mean, explain it on the forum. |
| 20:43.13 | NetRipper | you'll see network stuff come by |
| 20:43.14 | NetRipper | lol |
| 20:43.28 | NetRipper | i was hoping you were gathering info ;p |
| 20:44.30 | dcordes | I'm doing other smem things right now |
| 20:47.03 | lavender-t | NetRipper: how do i send the file to you ? still post on the forum ? |
| 20:47.52 | NetRipper | you can mail me |
| 20:47.53 | NetRipper | or |
| 20:47.56 | NetRipper | upload to a file service |
| 20:47.59 | dcordes | lavender-t, I would vote for posting on the forum |
| 20:48.02 | NetRipper | or put it on pastebin |
| 20:48.09 | lavender-t | ok will do :) |
| 20:48.17 | NetRipper | and forum would be fine, others have asked for diff as well |
| 20:48.17 | NetRipper | :) |
| 20:48.17 | dcordes | NetRipper, btw turn off pin for radio tinkering |
| 20:48.35 | NetRipper | dcordes? pin? |
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| 20:50.48 | NetRipper | hi cr2 |
| 20:50.49 | dcordes | speaking of small cards - the sdhc I broke turned into a resistor :) it went so hot it almost cooked down the SD slot through a reader |
| 20:51.05 | NetRipper | lol |
| 20:51.15 | NetRipper | dcordes, but what do you mean by turning off pin for radio tinkering? |
| 20:51.16 | NetRipper | :) |
| 20:51.17 | dcordes | glad I didn't try it long enoug in the kais |
| 20:51.39 | dcordes | <NetRipper> make sure you're logged into the network in winmo |
| 20:51.39 | dcordes | <NetRipper> (i.e. you entered your pin) |
| 20:52.31 | NetRipper | ok so why turn it off? |
| 20:53.04 | NetRipper | oh you mean, to prevent network from seeing any weird signals? |
| 20:53.10 | dcordes | because you don't need to enter it when it's turned off :) |
| 20:54.42 | NetRipper | oh right |
| 20:54.49 | NetRipper | now i get what you mean |
| 20:54.49 | NetRipper | ;p |
| 20:54.59 | NetRipper | remove the pin from the sim |
| 20:55.05 | dcordes | yes |
| 20:55.13 | NetRipper | lol |
| 20:55.31 | NetRipper | man that took like 5 minutes before it hit me |
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| 20:56.14 | dcordes | sorry for wasting your time. I could have stated more clearly |
| 20:56.27 | NetRipper | lol no problem, maybe i should be more awake ;p |
| 20:57.06 | lavender-t | alrighty, just posted in the forum. gotta go back to the boring daily work now ... |
| 20:57.17 | lavender-t | ttyl guys |
| 20:58.08 | NetRipper | ok thanks |
| 20:58.23 | NetRipper | and have a good time working today ;) |
| 20:58.41 | cr2 | hi NetRipper |
| 20:58.43 | NetRipper | this timezone thing is awkward.. for me it's almost time to sleep already;) |
| 20:58.53 | dcordes | lavender-t, later |
| 20:59.01 | cr2 | dcordes: what about cken & msm7xxxx_gpio_func() ? |
| 20:59.02 | dcordes | cr2, evening |
| 20:59.19 | NetRipper | cr2, lavender-t got mmc/movinand to mount on diamond ;) |
| 20:59.25 | dcordes | I thought about the gpio and wondered if it replaces egpio |
| 20:59.51 | cr2 | egpio is a completely different thing. htc-egpio |
| 20:59.52 | dcordes | s/the gpio/the msm7xxxx_gpio/ |
| 21:00.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: the clk api is handled properly ? |
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| 21:00.51 | NetRipper | cr2, he used the clock-7x00.c from vogue (and changed it a bit) |
| 21:01.10 | dcordes | cr2, msm7xxxx_gpio_func() that is for the on chip gpios only and we want it because it enables the alt setup, correct? |
| 21:01.37 | cr2 | dcordes: yes, it's the same as alt on pxa |
| 21:01.58 | cr2 | NetRipper: but the 7200 clock divisors are different |
| 21:02.06 | NetRipper | cr2, yes, he adjusted them |
| 21:02.41 | cr2 | and the clock-7x00.c has a differnet i2c cock divisor address. |
| 21:02.46 | cr2 | so it's a hack. |
| 21:02.57 | NetRipper | yes it is a hack |
| 21:02.57 | dcordes | cr2, so what do we need to do to unify it? the only thing that changes is the additional bank for A, right? |
| 21:03.31 | cr2 | NetRipper: what is nandd-mov ? |
| 21:03.47 | cr2 | dcordes: we don't have alt config at all |
| 21:04.00 | NetRipper | cr2, movinand is the 4gb internal memory the diamond has.. as diamond does not have sd card |
| 21:04.29 | cr2 | NetRipper: and it uses nand interface ?= |
| 21:04.45 | NetRipper | cr2, no, movinand exposes a mmc interface |
| 21:04.55 | cr2 | ? |
| 21:05.00 | cr2 | exposes ? |
| 21:05.08 | NetRipper | well, has |
| 21:05.12 | dcordes | cr2, the 3 parameter thing. what is that called? |
| 21:05.15 | NetRipper | it has multiple interfaces |
| 21:05.27 | dcordes | hmmm I'm mixing with proc_comm |
| 21:05.50 | NetRipper | somewhere on the thread is a link to the specs :p |
| 21:06.14 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's connected to the sd controller ?? |
| 21:06.30 | dcordes | in place of the raph mmc |
| 21:06.33 | cr2 | but then it needs a converter chip like on P4225 ? |
| 21:06.37 | NetRipper | "The new solution, moviNAND, combines a MultiMediaCard v.4 (MMC) controller with up to 4GB of NAND to simplify system design requirements for embedded non-volatile storage." |
| 21:06.40 | NetRipper | cr2, yes |
| 21:07.04 | cr2 | ok |
| 21:07.40 | cr2 | diam is weird |
| 21:07.55 | NetRipper | lol it's just like a fixed sd card |
| 21:08.03 | cr2 | is the raph800 lcd really 4096 colors ? |
| 21:08.08 | NetRipper | no |
| 21:09.04 | cr2 | NetRipper: it's weird to use sd-to-nand converter when you can just use nand diterctly |
| 21:09.22 | cr2 | must be some DRM conspiracy :) |
| 21:09.38 | NetRipper | cr2, i guess it made raphael/diamond more similar = less fabrication costs |
| 21:10.32 | cr2 | less software development costs, maybe |
| 21:10.47 | dcordes | or solder a micro sd?? |
| 21:11.21 | cr2 | ok, so what about the color depth on 800 ? |
| 21:11.50 | cr2 | dcordes: can you add the cken tracing to msm ? |
| 21:11.55 | NetRipper | cr2, it's probably init'ed some way that it is set to a certain mode |
| 21:12.27 | cr2 | well, maybe. but having 4096 colors is braindead |
| 21:13.04 | cr2 | was it hp or cpq who have advertized 65565 colors where they actually had 4096 ? |
| 21:13.35 | cr2 | so they replaced all these ipaqs. |
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| 21:16.21 | dcordes | cr2, cken? |
| 21:16.36 | cr2 | look at the _pxa.py |
| 21:17.43 | dcordes | I see |
| 21:17.47 | cr2 | cken = ( |
| 21:17.59 | cr2 | here you need to name the clock bits |
| 21:18.03 | dcordes | so it's just naming for the regs |
| 21:18.15 | cr2 | that are documented in wiki, and the bitXXX for the rest |
| 21:18.23 | cr2 | naming for the bits |
| 21:18.48 | cr2 | and then |
| 21:18.49 | cr2 | 0x41300004: ("CKEN", cken), |
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| 21:19.04 | cr2 | should be replaced by 0xa8600000: |
| 21:19.09 | dcordes | of course wiki is screwed right now |
| 21:19.20 | cr2 | yeah |
| 21:19.31 | cr2 | 0x80, and 0x100 are sd0 and sd1 |
| 21:19.46 | cr2 | don't remember about uartDM* |
| 21:20.30 | cr2 | googel cash ? |
| 21:20.37 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:21.17 | cr2 | 0x80 - sd0, 0x100 - sd1, 0x20000 - uartDM1, 0x4000000 - uartDM2, |
| 21:21.30 | cr2 | 0x8000000-sd2, 0x10000000-sd3, |
| 21:21.46 | cr2 | 0x200 maybe usb |
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| 21:23.41 | cr2 | then you can check if the tracing works by inserting and removing the sd card |
| 21:23.59 | dcordes | let me fetch the latest console |
| 21:24.23 | cr2 | hm. but the msm_clk has many virtual ioremap |
| 21:25.06 | dcordes | what does CKEN mean? |
| 21:25.43 | cr2 | then we also need a better dex-ioctl -> proc_comm docs. i guess it's trivial |
| 21:25.58 | cr2 | ClocKENable |
| 21:26.39 | cr2 | the (SD) divisors are described by a 7 parameter function |
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| 21:32.00 | cr2 | 144 kHz: x,3,0x64,0x32,3,3,0,1 |
| 21:32.22 | cr2 | 19MHz,other: x,1,0xa,5,3,3,1,1 |
| 21:32.47 | cr2 | 24MHz: x,1,0x10,8,1,3,1,1 |
| 21:33.08 | cr2 | 12MHz: x,1,2,3,1,3,1,1 |
| 21:33.19 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.30 | cr2 | 48MHz: x,1,0xc,6,1,3,1,1 |
| 21:33.31 | dcordes | what is 0x41300004 for msm7xxxx |
| 21:33.48 | cr2 | 0xa8600000 |
| 21:34.01 | cr2 | MSM_CLK |
| 21:34.16 | cr2 | so. |
| 21:35.15 | cr2 | A0 = (arg1 << 16) | (~(arg3*2)&0xffff) |
| 21:36.38 | dcordes | can't see 0xa86 in raph memory map |
| 21:36.54 | dcordes | nevermind. |
| 21:37.20 | cr2 | A4 = (arg6 & 1) | ((arg4 & 3) <<3) | | ((arg5 & 3)<<6 | (arg7|0xa)<<9| (~(arg2-arg1)<<17) |
| 21:37.36 | cr2 | the same for A8 and AC |
| 21:38.10 | cr2 | so A0 is very easy to calculate, A4 is a bit more involved. |
| 21:38.32 | dcordes | that calculation must go to the regs_pxa.py? |
| 21:38.56 | cr2 | no, in the clk_api |
| 21:39.14 | cr2 | instead of the strange a0 and a4 hardcoded values. |
| 21:40.22 | cr2 | but these formulas are for 7201A |
| 21:40.38 | dcordes | cr2> then we also need.. didn't notice you changed the topic :) |
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| 21:40.55 | cr2 | kaiser spl needs to be checked separately |
| 21:41.33 | cr2 | i want to leave the SD clock calculation in the logs, because i can't edit the wiki |
| 21:42.04 | cr2 | as you can see it's not rocket science |
| 21:42.12 | NetRipper | it is to me |
| 21:42.21 | NetRipper | lol |
| 21:42.22 | dcordes | I can agree there |
| 21:42.43 | dcordes | it depends on the point of view - if you are a rocket scientist or not |
| 21:43.05 | NetRipper | exactly |
| 21:43.36 | cr2 | we just can't apprehend the meaning of these bitmasks. |
| 21:43.42 | cr2 | evil qualcomm |
| 21:43.59 | cr2 | wtf should be so secret about the clock divisors ;) |
| 21:44.56 | cr2 | dcordes: 0x5060a000 b3200000 a8600000 1 CLK_CTL, DEX'd |
| 21:46.24 | dcordes | yea I grep'D for 0xa86 |
| 21:47.20 | cr2 | i was lazy to add 0x |
| 21:47.51 | cr2 | NetRipper: enabling the TS irq still does not work ? |
| 21:48.39 | cr2 | NetRipper: does the current driver init this area ? |
| 21:48.43 | cr2 | b2100000 a8100000 1 TS init related |
| 21:48.47 | dcordes | lavender-t, just pinging to make sure you take note of the calc stuffs |
| 21:53.46 | cr2 | ok, leaving for today |
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| 21:55.49 | NetRipper | cr2, still no TS irq, and not sure - i can look into that later |
| 21:56.21 | NetRipper | sd card fails at CMD3, which is: mmc_set_relative_addr(card) |
| 21:58.12 | dcordes | what clock does it report? |
| 21:58.19 | dcordes | anything new? |
| 22:00.47 | NetRipper | 2640000 |
| 22:00.50 | NetRipper | hz |
| 22:01.24 | NetRipper | mmc0: clock 2640000hz busmode 1 powermode 2 cs 0 vdd 16 width 0 timing 0 |
| 22:05.52 | NetRipper | isn't that a strange frequency? |
| 22:06.07 | dcordes | shrugs |
| 22:06.12 | dcordes | what does the diamond movi nand report? |
| 22:06.23 | NetRipper | em |
| 22:07.02 | NetRipper | i dont know |
| 22:07.27 | NetRipper | lavender-t, when you get back, can you put a dmesg on a pastebin somewhere? for comparison? |
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| 22:10.55 | NetRipper | dcordes, do you know something about how the clocks are setup? the struct has a "freq" and "actual_freq", what's the difference? |
| 22:11.28 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.40 | NetRipper | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.42 | NetRipper | that's the order |
| 22:16.06 | NetRipper | when cr2 mentions 24mhz, should that be the "freq" or "actual_freq"? |
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| 22:26.23 | NetRipper | ok so using cr2's formula's i could calculate A0 and A4, but how do i calculate the "actual frequency"? |
| 22:26.50 | dcordes | NetRipper, can you explain what a0 a4 are |
| 22:26.58 | NetRipper | no, i dont know myself |
| 22:26.59 | NetRipper | ;) |
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| 23:48.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, hm, another option (perhaps just "for now") is to add a cmdline parameter to determine raph800 on runtime |
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| 23:50.37 | tmzt_ | NetRipper: would it be possible to combine diam and raph but keep the chipsets seperate? |
| 23:53.34 | NetRipper | tmzt_, define chipsets.. they're both 7201a |
| 23:53.54 | tmzt_ | sorry, I mean cdma and gsm |
| 23:54.09 | NetRipper | ah, depends how much work the modem is |
| 23:54.10 | tmzt_ | have an mtype for each raph but also use it for diam |
| 23:54.49 | NetRipper | yes so mtype for raph100 would boot diam100 too, and raph800 would boot diam800 |
| 23:55.03 | NetRipper | it'd probably work yes |
| 23:55.03 | tmzt_ | right |
| 23:55.36 | NetRipper | but we're also kinda running into small differences between diam100 and raph100 |
| 23:55.40 | tmzt_ | although it appears the at&t touch pro keyboard might be different, according to something Astain just said in xda-dev |
| 23:55.42 | NetRipper | i.e. gpio differences |
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| 23:56.29 | tmzt_ | wonder what's going on with dts/dtc over at lak, it seems it could be helpful in these situations |
| 23:57.08 | NetRipper | tmzt_, you mean the cab file he's mentioning? |
| 23:57.25 | NetRipper | that's probably just the keyboard layout |
| 23:57.58 | NetRipper | which, eventually, should be configurable in userspace |