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01:57.03lupine_85So what's the best HTC with a hardware keyboard to run linux on right now?
01:57.19lupine_85:p
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04:03.24joshjdevlhi, any new news for android on blackstone?
04:03.36joshjdevlany new code pushes that i can test?
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08:12.02Marajinmorning dcordes
08:12.56dcordesMarajin hey wots up? you obtained a dedicated ashtray?
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08:16.55psokarovskihi
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14:49.36drofmijnot sure who to ask ... how do I apply a diff such as http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082210.diff to the kernel? I've been trying to google it but I think I have the terminology wrong or something
14:52.10imfloflodrofmij  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3005146&postcount=32
14:53.27drofmijaha thanks
14:54.50drofmijI was trying to patch the wrong branch of android kernel and patch -p1 < was giving me wierd errors
14:55.00drofmijI thought I was running the wrong command
14:57.26drofmijdo I need to use that specific toolchain? or will the prebuilt toolchain from android work?
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18:48.25dcordesG1 smd seems to match X1
19:00.28dcordessmd0 works perfectly, that's with the ootb raphael kernel latest htc-msm-2.6.25 revision
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19:04.48Bally3boo!
19:05.25Bally3glyph did you get the kernel working on your phone?
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19:24.04imfloflonobody here tonight
19:26.30Bally3hey flo
19:27.48rolkI'm here.
19:27.53rolkHaha.
19:27.54Bally3you said vogue was using a dfferet versio of haret?
19:28.01Bally3hey rolk :)
19:28.04rolkHi.
19:28.22Bally3managed to boot the old initrd-android to the interface with a working keyboard
19:28.43rolkAllright.
19:29.03rolkI managed the same, but with the kernel posted way back in the polaris thread.
19:29.18rolkI never checked whether that old android stuff worked with the new kernel.
19:30.05rolkI still have no clue why the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 kernel with polaris defconfig does not have a keyboard, while the lintuxtogo kernel does.
19:30.08Bally3I've got the zimage you posted last night, the default.txt that we amended and the initrd-android in the polaris thread which about 19.8mb
19:30.22Bally3mm..
19:32.34Bally3I posted on the Polaris thread that just renaming the default.txt file w amended to startup.txt and adding the angstrom to  the vogue directory whilst leaving the other files in the root, still booted
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19:35.38imfloflostrang remeber when dcordes made special  zimage for me and i let default.txt in haret
19:36.21imfloflothis is just a file name for haret that's all i ca nname it toto.txt
19:36.26imfloflono?
19:37.33Bally3the haret that vogue uses doesnt allow for you to change the config file name - well not for me anyway
19:37.46Bally3and the one thats with it is called startup.txt
19:39.04Bally3brb
19:39.07Bally3food time
19:39.08imfloflook
19:39.15imfloflogood apétit
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20:05.35Bally3back
20:06.05imfloflore
20:06.50Bally3so let me get this straight..
20:07.12Bally3the zimage is built using 0.8 android?
20:07.37imflofloìts indepedant
20:07.43imfloflofrom SDK
20:07.52Bally3the zmage is independant?
20:08.35Bally3so whats the android for then? the initrd?
20:08.53imflofloi though
20:09.50Bally3see when i tried to load the initrd using the setup I have it mentioned about the sd card not installing
20:10.42Bally3the vogue zimage is much bigger than the polaris one
20:11.03imfloflothats normal
20:12.20Bally3but the zimage is specific?
20:14.09imflofloi though zimage was only the kernel
20:14.21imflofloand the OS android was on initrd
20:15.18Bally3ok that makes sense.. but I still dont get where the major issue is
20:16.00imfloflothe kernel,so zimagen must but recompil with specific adpatation from our polaris/kaiser
20:16.55imfloflolike we already do for 0.8
20:17.04imfloflobut with the 1.0 the system is differente
20:17.26Bally3but dzo said the vogue and the polaris were very similar and that we should change the timing?
20:17.36imfloflolike dubbeld00 said on XDA http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3023321&postcount=76
20:18.45imflofloyes but vogue and polaris are similare but the chipset don't work the same maybe they start read SD on another offset or something like this , don't know what is icq code dzo was speaking about
20:21.27Bally3and this is all done in asm?
20:21.47imfloflodon't know but basic language
20:22.05Bally3just trying to ascertain where we can start
20:22.50imflofloapparently the probleme is only the SD, since we start this polaris android post
20:23.25Bally3dwaradzyne managed tp get something working yesterday.. but we're not sure what and he hasnt been on since :(
20:23.33imflofloall was good until 0.8 SDK after that , to conserve our data,we must change the protocol and that is the pb
20:24.17imflofloall i read is that he succes to boot but don't know which SDK , and which method ?
20:24.31Bally3is vogue initrd built on 1.0 android?
20:25.08imflofloyes Update(24/9/08): Updated to the newest SDK (1.0
20:26.36Bally3see he mentions dma and irq.. that I understand cdroms and other hardware have the same
20:26.59Bally3windows usually allocates the irq to a hardware
20:27.29imflofloirq = Interruption request ?
20:27.31Bally3if we knew where to look for these settings then we could at least play around with them
20:28.09rolkBally3: well, dma and irq is not that trivial.
20:28.36rolkIf you have the chip specifications, it is sometimes tricky to get it right.,
20:28.36imflofloyes i think it "just"  offset to jump or something like that
20:28.40Bally3yes and dma direct memory allocation
20:28.45imfloflobut its too hard for me
20:28.53rolkAnd we have no specifications of the chip.
20:28.54imflofloi haven't this skill
20:29.00Bally3rolk:  yes I understand.. but its just a setting
20:29.03rolkI have the skills allright.
20:29.05imfloflomaybe the P3D have it
20:29.14rolkBut I haven't got the specifications.
20:29.27Bally3if its in a config file then we can look at it..if its embedded in the code then its harder
20:29.36Bally3rogro maybe flo
20:29.40imfloflodzo must explain us how he did with his vogue after that people with skill can do the same on polaris //kaiser
20:29.44rolkYou know, I do this for a living, on other devices. But I get the specifications of the on board registers etc.
20:30.05Bally3yeah.. windows I could do.. but linux
20:30.18imfloflotoo bad
20:30.20Bally3maybe its time to ask god (google)
20:31.15imfloflo@DZO can you explain us how did you do to manage the SD card on the vogue? to manipulate dma and irq
20:31.19Bally3see if you got a new piece of hardware that wasnt supported in linux on a normal pc
20:31.45drofmijwhich specs would we need to get? for kaiser? or for a specific chip on kaiser?
20:32.07imflofloexplanation of dma and irq in french very good to read http://www.commentcamarche.net/contents/repar/irq.php3
20:33.01Bally3if its specific to chipset then that would mean writing a driver for it..  but again.. is that what dzo did for the vogue?
20:33.07imflofloi want to understand what it has been do on vogue to see if somebody can do the same on polaris
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20:37.54Bally3brb
20:38.00Bally3got to move to lappy
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20:42.31rolkWe really should try to get the documentation for the Qualcomm MSM7500. That would help a lot. Not the sales brochure, but the real chip programmers manual.
20:43.18imfloflo7500 ?
20:45.02imflofloi think i see this manuel on XDA when people search about 3D improve long time ago
20:49.06imfloflohttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1815584&postcount=2  maybe a good product to use to see capacity of qualcomm chip
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20:57.43Bally3back again
20:57.54imfloflore
20:58.12imflofloso you have the solution to our probleme :p
20:58.31Bally3lol
20:58.37Bally3still looking
20:59.57Bally3i just had a look at he zimage for polaris...whats different with the kaiser one?
21:01.25imfloflono ideas
21:03.18Bally3trying to figure out where the sd card setings would be
21:05.42Bally3see the initrd is the android etc..
21:06.03Bally3in the vogue default.txt there is a line about the sd
21:08.56imfloflowhat it says?
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21:20.45Bally3_# msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax      - The maximum frequency (in Hz) used by the SD controller
21:22.14Bally3_# This is what I use: "msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000 pm.sleep_mode=0 board-htcvogue.panel_type=1"
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21:27.27Bally3_flo
21:27.46Bally3_have a look at this:
21:27.48Bally3_http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue/.config
21:28.56Bally3_thin i found it
21:29.00tmzt_rolk: the sources for the on-screen keyboard where added by dzo and others, not google
21:29.08imfloflodo you think its jsute this param?
21:29.10Bally3_CONFIG_MMC_EMBEDDED_SDIO is not set
21:29.11Bally3_#
21:29.13Bally3_# MMC/SD Card Drivers
21:29.14Bally3_#
21:29.16Bally3_CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK=y
21:29.18Bally3_# CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK_BOUNCE is not set
21:29.19Bally3_# CONFIG_SDIO_UART is not set
21:29.21Bally3_# CONFIG_MMC_TEST is not set
21:29.23Bally3_#
21:29.25Bally3_# MMC/SD Host Controller Drivers
21:29.27Bally3_#
21:29.28Bally3_CONFIG_MMC_MSM7X00A=y
21:29.30Bally3_#
21:29.37imflofloso its a files which need to compile zimage?
21:29.39Bally3_its in there somewhere
21:29.44imfloflothe configure file
21:29.46Bally3_i think so
21:30.10Bally3_so.. edit.. compile... test?
21:31.22imflofloyes so edit  set to 0000 compile test,  redit set to 0001 compile test ... again :p
21:31.45rolktmzt: I know, well, at least I know google did not add it. However, I can;t detect the difference in the builds. And there is a difference, becauise in the android msm-htc-2.6.25 kernel build, all I get from pressin the camera button is a '1' on the command line.
21:32.14imfloflobut i don't understand why all the SD variable are set to "is not set"
21:32.19tmzt_rolk: what do you mean you can't detect the difference in the builds? look in drivers/video/msm_fb.c
21:32.24Bally3_i have not left
21:32.28Bally3_:S
21:32.56Bally3_did I?
21:33.04Bally3_:O
21:33.11imflofloand most off variable are comment with #
21:33.11rolkLet me have a look.
21:33.59Bally3_maybe thats what needs to be set
21:34.08tmzt_I think the important sd settings are on the command line right now
21:34.57Bally3_we need to chop out the code thats needed for the sd card.. then we do some research
21:35.13imfloflowhere in the command lin ?
21:35.14imflofloline
21:35.31imflofloi agree bally3
21:36.17tmzt_look back in the logs today
21:36.23imfloflohttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commit;h=5ea25d332b9cb234f546c8ef12fa937ff5fc7f55
21:36.37rolktmzt: Ok. Stupid, I did not look there. Maybe I can sort that out now.
21:37.36imflofloi though what i had found is for the support after booting not what we search sorry
21:38.34tmzt_17:12 < Bally3_> # msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax      - The maximum frequency (in Hz)
21:38.37tmzt_<PROTECTED>
21:38.39tmzt_17:14 < Bally3_> # This is what I use: "msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax=32000000
21:38.42tmzt_<PROTECTED>
21:39.13tmzt_I guess you already had it. anything else needs work in the kernel, probably changing things to use PIO and making that work first
21:40.28imfloflowe can you an old kernel for the moment which is good working or should we oblige to recompile it so ?
21:40.50tmzt_which kernel?
21:41.31imflofloany one of dcordes
21:42.20Bally3_to get 1.0 working we need the sd card so we should stick with 0.8?
21:45.21imflofloif its only in default.txt don't need to recompile, if its in .config we need to recompile zimage
21:52.25tmzt_yes, what's in .config that needs changed?
21:52.49imfloflodunno
21:52.49tmzt_on polaris?
21:53.00imflofloi have polaris yes
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21:53.27tmzt_ok, kaiser bootkit for 0.8 would not have all the android 1.0 patches I think
21:53.55tmzt_meaning the binder and shared memory patches used in 1.0
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21:55.53imflofloreally need dzo to tell us where we must search code to change
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22:05.48parmasterhmmm, think i found an old build from 2006 where the phone works on the ba
22:06.29parmasteri've got the ipkg for that version of gomunicator seperately as well
22:07.16parmasterits missing a ton of dependancies on the current angstrom, but maybe i can work around that
22:07.19tmzt_parmaster: hi, is there source for this gomunicator version?
22:07.30parmasteryes
22:08.19parmasterfirst i'm going to run the HH16 image and verify that its working in their withmy current setup
22:08.46parmasterthen if that works i'll try to make the older ipkg work on the new angstrom
22:08.55tmzt_missed cr2 again, we need to find out about the state of asic3_mmc not only for ba
22:11.07parmastersrc for the previous version is available on handhelds.org (whichis down right now for some reason)
22:11.27rolkAha. Making progress now.
22:12.00rolkI've got the onscreen keyboard running on the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 kernel.
22:12.39rolkUnfortunately, I see the keyboard, I can tocuh the letters, but the events are not yet properly translated to the command line.
22:13.03tmzt_can you showkey ?
22:13.08rolkI get things like: msm_proc_comm(18,0,0) and such
22:13.09tmzt_or evtest
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22:13.32rolkI can't enter things yet. On the command line, I mean.
22:13.37parmasterwww.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Gomunicator is where you can find both current and the prior branch of the code (prior being the one that still works)
22:14.02rolk(I can, of course with the linux to go kernel, but that's beside the point).
22:14.31rolktmzt: you got me on track with the drivers/video/msm/fmmem.c thing. Thanks.
22:15.05rolkHe!
22:15.17rolkI just noticed, I can enter stuff!
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22:15.48rolkI just logged in as root. I think what I see as msm_proc_comm... is just kernel debugging messages.
22:16.27rolkI'll find where that cruft is produced and reduce its kernel logging level. Then I'm good to go.
22:16.40dcordeshey rolk, others
22:17.02Zooloochey
22:17.14rolkdcordes: Hi.
22:17.15parmasterhi dcordes
22:17.22imfloflohi
22:17.56imfloflodcordes can you help us ? and tell us what dzo made on files to have the SD issue fix
22:18.42dcordesimfloflo, I think his git history doesn't go back that far
22:19.00dcordesbut I think he didn't have the dma problem we have on polaris and kaiser
22:19.30imflofloyes  and i would know how to modify file to change dma
22:19.51imflofloto test differents on  our kaiser
22:20.08dcordesshouldn't we leave dzo some hacking fun :) ?
22:21.01imflofloyes i don't want to do this myself just understand how all works and if somebody can do this before christmas
22:22.48dcordesmost of the sd specific things are in drivers/mmc/host/msm_sdcc.c
22:23.34dcordesmickey_away, ping
22:25.39rolkOk, I've got the keyboard working for polaris with the android kernel. The msm_proc_comm messages were indeed kernel loggings from kaiser_smd.c
22:25.47imfloflodon't see the msm_sdcc.c here http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=tree;f=drivers/mmc/host;h=2a6193bae6080e976d1e2aca55960937103ce985;hb=45beca08dd8b6d6a65c5ffd730af2eac7a2c7a03
22:26.28rolkI've switched off those messages for cmds 0x17 and 0x18, as these seem to be known already (vibrate on/off). And these are used with the keyboard.
22:29.21dcordesrolk, yes proc_comm is one interface to the shared memory. among vibrate it controls a lot of other things
22:29.58dcordesrolk, a list of proc_comms for the htc raphael can be found here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelDEX
22:30.35dcordesimfloflo, go to the 'overview' site and at the bottom select the htc-msm branch. then go to tree and you have the kaiser stuff
22:31.10dcordesXPERIA owners present?
22:31.57rolkOk. Now this android G1/Polaris branch is booting, and I can do some sniffing.
22:32.10dcordesthat's nice
22:32.25rolkI don't see any errors related to MMC, but there's also no mmcblk0...devices.
22:32.44dcordesbtw, you can use GPRS to get a remote console
22:33.12rolkHuh?
22:33.24rolkHow is that done?
22:34.21dcordeslike so http://headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/ppp.notsh
22:34.54dcordesI can update the initrd to include the script and ppp
22:35.54rolkAnd do you happen to know a way to select a bigger console font. This is hard on my eyes.
22:37.01dcordesin .config you select fonts to be compiled in
22:37.16dcordesif you have only one, that one is selected by default
22:37.26rolkOK. I'll look into that.
22:38.28imfloflo.bashrc   ?
22:38.52rolkI selected the USB Gadget framework to be compiled in. I see a USB device (fullspeed, using uhci_hcd) but it seems unresponsive. I was hoping to get the USB EThernet gadget going. That provides a direct IP connection over USB.
22:40.08dcordesall I know about the msm7x00 usb is it is a pita and dzo doesn't even have it working on the vouge
22:40.28rolkA pita?
22:40.34rolkO I see.
22:40.38dcordesgprs works quite well and reliable in case you have a data plan
22:40.46rolkYes, I have.
22:41.03imfloflono , i haven't for the moment :'
22:41.05rolkSpecial requirements? Like having the radio on from windows mob.
22:41.19mickey_awaydcordes: pong. got anywhere with your patch?
22:41.36dcordesrolk, yea right. you must turn phone on in the comm manager
22:41.55dcordesmickey_away, I just lurked into parser.py and didn't understand to much
22:42.07mickey_awayheh
22:42.12dcordesI tried using your OK > 0 path as orientation
22:42.39dcordes<PROTECTED>
22:42.39dcordes<PROTECTED>
22:42.39dcordes<PROTECTED>
22:43.45mickey_awaycoping with the missing \n is more involved
22:43.46dcordeswhat is self.lines ?
22:44.01mickey_awayself.lines is an array that contains the response
22:44.01rolkOne other thing. I notice that I can't select the symbols (like ()#$^@&#%) that appear in white on the on-screen keyboard. I tried clicking on 'ALT' first, but that doesn't work.  ALT seems to switch between a 'keyboard overlay' and a 'keyboard below' the console. SYm does not do anything useful, it seems
22:45.41dcordesrolk, dwaradzyn seems to know how to remap it
22:46.00dcordesmickey_away, can you provide any pointers?
22:46.41lupine_85wonders if most effort is going towards getting android, rather than vanilla linux, working on HTC these dats
22:46.45lupine_85days*
22:47.36rolklupine_85: there should be little difference, I think.
22:48.03rolkAndroid is only a layer on top of the linux OS.
22:48.32dcordesa thing people will never get
22:48.33rolkAlthoug there are some minor Android specific additions to the kernel, these should not be hardware related.
22:48.35lupine_85+ a bunch of linux patches, I suspect
22:48.56lupine_85I guess as long as they're proactive about pushing their changes to linus
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22:50.58dcordeslupine_85, http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-2.6.27
22:51.31dcordesthe real android specific part in the msm kernel is not that big.
22:56.56mickey_awaydcordes: *sigh* ok let's try something else:
22:56.56joshjdevlhi dcordes
22:57.35dcordesmickey_away, ok
22:57.37dcordeshi joshjdevl
22:59.02joshjdevldcordes: i was still havin issue tryin to get the last android u gave me to boot. so basicall what should happen is that i start android on my phone using haret, then should be able to use the USB from my computer to login to my phone?
22:59.09mickey_awayhttp://rafb.net/p/4XIXT199.html
22:59.29mickey_awaypatch this onto the standard parser.py
22:59.37dcordesI gave you the latest android? the images are all from dzo
22:59.54dcordesmickey_away, it obsoletes the old diff?
23:00.01mickey_awayyes
23:00.19dcordesI should rafb about python :)
23:00.25mickey_awayit's another bad method to change the result into something that the stock parser would expect
23:00.40mickey_awaywith horror assumptions, but might get you somewhere
23:00.54joshjdevldcordes: hmm, actually not sure if it was the latest. i got it from http://www.netripper.com/raphael/initrd-netripper-busybox-usb.cpio.gz
23:01.45dcordesdon't know netripper distro ^^
23:03.24dcordesjoshjdevl, on that same website is a more complete initrd with an angstrom image
23:04.11dcordesthe usb bit is configuring /etc/network/interfaces where you put auto usb0 so the interface comes up automatically
23:06.20dcordesHunk #1 succeeded at 110 (offset 65 lines).
23:19.38dcordesgsmcall.Initiate('+491234567','voice)
23:20.14dcordesAttributeError: 'SingleLineChannel' object has no attribute 'setIntemediateResponseCallback'
23:23.59mickey_awaycan i have the full traceback?
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23:28.18dcordesmickey_away, the output from cli-framework or the frameworkd logfile?
23:29.04mickey_awaywhere the traceback is
23:29.13mickey_awaylike... where the stack is printed out
23:29.19mickey_awaythis could be either or
23:29.24mickey_awaydepending on the error
23:29.37mickey_awayi don't see _any_ call to setIntermediateResponseCallback though
23:29.43mickey_awaywhich version is this?
23:29.46mickey_awayHEAD?
23:30.13dcordesI obtained the latest version in OE from the afternoon
23:30.26mickey_awaywith our without fso-autorev.inc?
23:30.31mickey_aways/our/or/
23:30.53dcordesI should use frameworkd as a git repo
23:31.01dcordesyea with the autorev
23:31.06mickey_awaysure it's frameworkd-devel and not frameworkd?
23:31.14dcordeslet me check
23:31.27mickey_awaydefault in OE is frameworkd
23:31.36mickey_awayso you need to have the PREFERRED_PROVIDER
23:31.46mickey_awayanyways, just give me git hash and i know which version you have running
23:32.55mickey_awayi just checked
23:33.00dcordesI use
23:33.03mickey_awayin ms4 something calls this
23:33.04dcordesPREFERRED_PROVIDER_frameworkd = frameworkd-devel
23:33.04dcordesrequire conf/distro/include/fso-autorev.inc
23:33.07mickey_awayso you are not using frameworkd-devel
23:33.18dcordesand build the fso-console-image
23:34.09mickey_awayjust force a build of frameworkd-devel and use this instead
23:34.53mickey_awaythe complete callhandling for singleline is different in master
23:35.00dcordesok
23:35.41dcordesI could put a git repo in my rootfs and fetch directly on the phone
23:36.02mickey_awayyeah, you probably don't need the compiled stuff atm.
23:36.15mickey_awayi don't know offhand where we use that
23:36.43mickey_awayin that case you need to make sure to set PYTHONPATH properly though
23:38.50dcordesmickey_away, you're right: opkg list_installed | grep framework
23:39.25dcordesframeworkd
23:39.25dcordesfameworkd-config
23:44.32lupine_85so I asked last night and didn't get a response - which HTC phone is least-unsupported with linux? ;)
23:44.55lupine_85also needs a hardware keyboard on the thing
23:44.56dcordesuniversal
23:45.14dcordesvogue
23:45.32dcordesg1 development edition perhaps
23:46.37lupine_85was vaguely looking at the touch pro but doesn't think that's very far in
23:46.47dcordeswell
23:47.05dcordesoh stupid me
23:47.13dcordesopenmoko gta-02 :)
23:47.16dcordeswhat do you expect from the device?
23:47.53lupine_85hardware keyboard with a ctrl key, semi-decent screen resolution, erm
23:47.58lupine_85that's about it really
23:47.59dcordesbut you need a htc so forget about the gta02
23:48.32dcordesxperia x1
23:48.52dcordesI think I would get the x1 if I had the spare $ now
23:49.37lupine_85mostly it's so I can keep up on IRC and other random messaging protocols, and ssh out, while on the move
23:49.50lupine_85and make/receive phone calls, of course :D
23:50.39dcordesprobably wait a few weeks until there is good power management support on the newer msm devices
23:50.54lupine_85something like the openmoko would be lovely if only it had a real keyboard
23:51.31dcordesyea the new one has faster internet at least
23:51.36imfloflogn guys
23:51.46dcordesnight imfloflo
23:51.56lupine_85oh, es. 3G is also a requirement ;)
23:52.09mickey_awaysounds like you need the glofiish then
23:52.18mickey_awaydepending on Harald's pace, it might be usable soon
23:52.31dcordesmickey_away, does he have power management?
23:52.39mickey_awayno idea
23:52.48mickey_awayprolly not yet
23:52.56mickey_awayhe's just working on that since 2 weeks or so
23:53.10lupine_85I'm not hugely afraid about rough around the edges - and I can has C knowledge :D
23:53.12dcordeswhen I flies to india next time I will hide some msm handsets in his luggage :D
23:53.22dcordess/I/he/
23:53.58dcordesheh
23:54.04dcordeswhatever
23:54.12stefan_schmidtdcordes: No worries, he also has an G1 :)
23:54.15dcordes914 of 1631
23:54.29stefan_schmidthopes he will keep up the work on gnufiish instead. :)
23:54.50mickey_awaywon't be interested until we can speak AT
23:55.05dcordesstefan_schmidt, I have seen the blog entry. there's not much work to be done on the g1
23:55.55stefan_schmidtmickey_away: Sure, won't poke you before anyway
23:56.11stefan_schmidtdcordes: It's more about learning about other phone designs
23:57.15dcordesoh well stuck OE build. rm -rf tmp
23:57.31dcordesstefan_schmidt, you mean like making frameworkd speak msm7* :) ?
23:57.48stefan_schmidtdcordes: no, he stays in kernel land
23:58.15stefan_schmidtdcordes: hw design and architecture I mean

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