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| 00:23.29 | tmzt_ | Bushman: cat /etc/resolv.conf on the client, you should see the ip address of dnsmasq server |
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| 02:45.16 | tekkdrone_ | tmzt_: so I dropped in that ohci code this morning, and look who decided to say hello :) usb 1-1: Product: Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM |
| 02:45.16 | tekkdrone_ | usb 1-1: Manufacturer: Qualcomm, Incorporated |
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| 02:55.09 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone_: yes, you get a lsusb -v -v ? can you paste it? |
| 02:55.50 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone_: if your keyboard is working, I can post a debian .tar.gz, but it has no ssh so you need a local console |
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| 02:57.23 | tekkdrone_ | aye my keyboard's functional except for numbers and symbols which are red-dot keys |
| 02:57.31 | tekkdrone_ | has made debugging a pain in the ass |
| 02:57.40 | tekkdrone_ | no slash, period, dash, underscore, or numbers |
| 02:57.53 | tmzt_ | ah, make the red-dot RIGHTALT |
| 02:58.07 | tmzt_ | I will give you a loadkeys keymap to modify |
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| 02:59.19 | tekkdrone_ | aye the key is mapped, but for instance, my numeral 1 is red dot + Q, or [^Q |
| 02:59.41 | tekkdrone_ | and busybox told me to f-off with the [^Q ;) |
| 03:00.04 | tekkdrone_ | I just started researching keymaps a day or so ago, got sidetracked |
| 03:00.29 | tmzt_ | right, you don't want that to be control, that's why I use RIGHTALT |
| 03:00.51 | tekkdrone_ | aye, mine's LEFTALT atm |
| 03:00.59 | tmzt_ | ok, that should work |
| 03:01.11 | tekkdrone_ | the control code comes up on ash, it just doesn't know what to do with it |
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| 03:02.00 | tekkdrone_ | btw, I would have loved to have known about dzo/Martin's work 2 weeks ago, man... woulda saved me a lot of time figuring out a proper rootfs |
| 03:02.06 | tekkdrone_ | >_< |
| 03:02.15 | tmzt_ | for android? |
| 03:02.18 | tekkdrone_ | yeah |
| 03:02.28 | tmzt_ | don't think he had 1.0 then, but I could be wrong |
| 03:02.40 | tekkdrone_ | I dropped my zimage into his files and it boots like mine, sans-keymap of course |
| 03:02.46 | tekkdrone_ | (android keymap) |
| 03:03.14 | tekkdrone_ | only difference is he's mounting data and system as separate images, and not using switch_root like I am |
| 03:03.23 | tekkdrone_ | oh and he's using cramfs |
| 03:04.20 | tekkdrone_ | can we not loop yaffs images? |
| 03:05.06 | tmzt_ | http://people.openezx.org/tmzt/keysq |
| 03:05.21 | tmzt_ | yes, you can loop mount yaffs2 if you have the driver inthe kernel |
| 03:06.08 | tekkdrone_ | right on, hadn't gotten around to testing that yet |
| 03:06.22 | tmzt_ | keycode 30 = a altgr keycode 30 = asterisk |
| 03:06.32 | tmzt_ | keycode 30 = a |
| 03:06.41 | tmzt_ | altgr keycode 30 = asterisk |
| 03:06.54 | tmzt_ | for alt instead, use alt instead of altgr |
| 03:06.59 | tmzt_ | the loadkeys keysapache |
| 03:07.41 | tmzt_ | dcordes is just extracting data and system to his rootfs, the other way is to make it easy to start android installation with the files on a vfat partition |
| 03:07.50 | tmzt_ | for installing using only windows on the pc |
| 03:08.20 | tekkdrone_ | aye I'm running data and system as part of my rootfs |
| 03:08.32 | tmzt_ | for the keymap, lookup your "a" key for example, find then add that line underneath |
| 03:08.42 | tmzt_ | that matches the alt function of your key |
| 03:09.31 | tekkdrone_ | I see, isn't the keymap binary? how do I export and edit it? |
| 03:09.43 | tmzt_ | no, just dumpkey > keysapache1 |
| 03:09.46 | tmzt_ | no, just dumpkeys > keysapache1 |
| 03:09.50 | tekkdrone_ | gotcha |
| 03:10.17 | tmzt_ | but you will find it's just the pc104 keymap, which is what I based mine on |
| 03:10.29 | tmzt_ | I will probably rewrite the whole thing but it works for now |
| 03:11.18 | tmzt_ | you have lsusb on the android image? |
| 03:11.47 | tekkdrone_ | negative, custom busybox and that's it |
| 03:12.12 | tmzt_ | what size minisd cards do you have? |
| 03:12.17 | tekkdrone_ | 2g |
| 03:12.39 | tekkdrone_ | sorry, missed the plural, 2g, 512, 256 |
| 03:12.40 | tmzt_ | you are using all that as a partition for android, or part for vfat? |
| 03:12.48 | tekkdrone_ | it's all vfat |
| 03:13.16 | tekkdrone_ | rootfs is mounted from the fat partition then switch_root'd to |
| 03:13.27 | tekkdrone_ | just like apachelinux used to |
| 03:13.33 | tmzt_ | ok, android has a usbserial module? |
| 03:14.59 | tekkdrone_ | it has the adb debug daemon that runs over serial, not quite the same |
| 03:15.09 | tekkdrone_ | runs over usb* |
| 03:15.21 | tmzt_ | right, those are function drivers, I mean host |
| 03:16.04 | tekkdrone_ | there is a usb serial module available in the kernel, yes |
| 03:16.23 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.26 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.34 | tmzt_ | that should work in android |
| 03:17.15 | tekkdrone_ | don't think of it as android, think of it as a vanilla linux I built from scratch, as that's pretty much what I'm working with |
| 03:17.51 | tmzt_ | right, I mean your android image if you want to use that |
| 03:18.19 | tekkdrone_ | ahh gotcha |
| 03:18.43 | tekkdrone_ | lemme get this keymap so I can actually type an asterisk |
| 03:18.45 | tekkdrone_ | :) |
| 03:18.49 | tmzt_ | right |
| 03:21.19 | tekkdrone_ | I hope dumpkmap and loadkmap will suffice, bbox doesn't have dumpkeys or loadkeys |
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| 03:25.09 | tmzt_ | what kind of output does it give? |
| 03:25.14 | tmzt_ | dumpkmpa |
| 03:25.19 | tekkdrone_ | it appears to be binary >_< |
| 03:27.00 | tmzt_ | http://trac.mondorescue.org/browser/branches/2.2.7/mindi-busybox/console-tools/dumpkmap.c |
| 03:27.04 | tmzt_ | way too simple |
| 03:28.34 | tekkdrone_ | it's tiny |
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| 03:30.37 | tekkdrone_ | what information did you need from lsusb? I've got discovery spitting out printk's |
| 03:30.51 | tmzt_ | vendor/product |
| 03:30.59 | tmzt_ | but the full lsusb -v -v would be best |
| 03:31.19 | tekkdrone_ | usb 1-1: New USB device found, idVendor=05c6, idProduct=3197 |
| 03:31.19 | tekkdrone_ | usb 1-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0 |
| 03:31.25 | tmzt_ | you have your kernel modules on there? |
| 03:31.25 | tekkdrone_ | for the moment |
| 03:31.38 | tekkdrone_ | it's a static kernel atm |
| 03:32.33 | tmzt_ | you need usbserial as kernel module, or I think you can pass usbserial.vendor=0x05c6 usbserial.product=0x3197 on command line |
| 03:33.05 | tmzt_ | Kevin2: did you ever find anything else about modem on Apache, like what usb is used for? |
| 03:34.13 | tekkdrone_ | usb serial, usb serial console device, and usb driver for gsm and cdma modems support are built in at the moment |
| 03:34.31 | tmzt_ | ok, boot with that CMDLINE then |
| 03:34.34 | tmzt_ | you need usbserial as kernel module, or I think you can pass usbserial.vendor=0x05c6 usbserial.product=0x3197 on command line |
| 03:34.51 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.03 | tekkdrone_ | waiting for the phone to come back up from the last test |
| 03:37.50 | tekkdrone_ | you hear google's dropping an unlocked-down-to-the-bootloader version of the G1 for devs? |
| 03:38.18 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 03:47.40 | tekkdrone_ | ok, booted, grabbed the dmesg and see some lines of interest |
| 03:48.05 | Kevin2 | tmzt_: I believe the usb was used for the 3g data access. Other than that, I don't know. |
| 03:48.39 | tekkdrone_ | hello again Kevin tmz here sidetracked me with some tasty code morsels |
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| 03:50.20 | tekkdrone_ | tmzt_, it registered 2 usbserial_generic converters, ttyUSB0, and ttyUSB1, the usb device 1-1 matches the qualcomm chip |
| 03:50.30 | tmzt_ | nice, now you need minicom |
| 03:50.52 | tmzt_ | if Kevin2 is right, this might just be used for ppp though |
| 03:51.12 | tmzt_ | and one might be the qcdiag (qualcomm diagnostics interface) |
| 03:52.16 | tekkdrone_ | and ttyS0 would be the AT interface? |
| 03:52.23 | tekkdrone_ | (that's my ffuart) |
| 03:52.40 | tmzt_ | if nothing else, you might symlink ttyS0 to /dev/smd0 and ttyUSB0 to /dev/smd1 |
| 03:52.44 | tmzt_ | and try dzo ril for android |
| 03:52.59 | tekkdrone_ | just the libref or the ril.so also? |
| 03:53.13 | tmzt_ | libreference_ril I think |
| 03:53.25 | tmzt_ | if you do the symlink, just follow the vogue instructions |
| 03:53.59 | tekkdrone_ | actually I created them right before I left work, but was unsure what was supposed to provide the interface |
| 03:54.30 | tmzt_ | normally it's /dev/smd which is shared memory access to the arm9 core on msm devices |
| 03:54.56 | tekkdrone_ | ahh my guess was serial modem device |
| 03:55.04 | tekkdrone_ | not quite |
| 03:55.05 | tekkdrone_ | lol |
| 03:55.38 | tmzt_ | it implements a serial port type access to the modem, but it's not a real serial port |
| 03:57.20 | tekkdrone_ | I'm going to look into that and have a smoke |
| 03:57.42 | tekkdrone_ | hey tmz, thanks for the help man |
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| 04:58.39 | ALoGeNo | loo |
| 04:58.47 | ALoGeNo | tmzt are you there? |
| 04:59.16 | tmzt | yes |
| 04:59.26 | ALoGeNo | omg ^^ |
| 04:59.35 | ALoGeNo | hey how are you? |
| 04:59.42 | tmzt | ok |
| 04:59.59 | ALoGeNo | im thinking in put any usb wifi in my uni that can be possyble? |
| 05:00.10 | tmzt | host? I don't know |
| 05:00.14 | ALoGeNo | possible* |
| 05:00.20 | ALoGeNo | yep |
| 05:00.31 | ALoGeNo | usb is running in uni |
| 05:00.46 | ALoGeNo | usb net and so.. |
| 05:01.31 | ALoGeNo | im thinking build some bigger usb to smaller adapter.. XD |
| 05:02.10 | tmzt | which kernel are you using now? from poky? |
| 05:02.19 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 05:02.23 | ALoGeNo | the old one |
| 05:02.30 | ALoGeNo | 21hh20 |
| 05:02.49 | ALoGeNo | usb is working propelly |
| 05:03.35 | ALoGeNo | having kernel sources and usb wifi sources it can be possible to compile it and run |
| 05:03.55 | ALoGeNo | if usb works like host (that you say no?) |
| 05:04.15 | tmzt | yes, if usb works as host |
| 05:04.29 | ALoGeNo | hum.. |
| 05:04.38 | ALoGeNo | i need to know that.. |
| 05:05.46 | ALoGeNo | becose i can support that with my big extended battery :) |
| 05:06.41 | ALoGeNo | wow.. i need USB female to female.. ^^ |
| 05:06.59 | tmzt | what? |
| 05:07.06 | ALoGeNo | i can do that recycling some old main board :) |
| 05:07.18 | ALoGeNo | yes.. |
| 05:07.42 | tmzt | the question is if the pxa connected usb client port supports host |
| 05:07.56 | ALoGeNo | with usb mini usb normal cable and one adapter with 2 females usb |
| 05:08.01 | ALoGeNo | yep |
| 05:08.29 | ALoGeNo | but if nobody knows that i go test.. and see if uni detects external things ^^ |
| 05:08.42 | ALoGeNo | like usb HD drive ^^ |
| 05:13.39 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: I don't want you to damage anything by connecting it backwards |
| 05:13.39 | tmzt | you can't use a usb device as a host, the same as you cannot connect two usb hosts with an A-to-A cable |
| 05:14.32 | ALoGeNo | aham |
| 05:15.02 | ALoGeNo | hum.. |
| 05:18.30 | parmaster | usb is the only thing working on the BA |
| 05:18.39 | parmaster | i tried turning on bluetooth the other day |
| 05:18.47 | parmaster | initrd ate shit.. wouldn't load |
| 05:19.22 | parmaster | sadly it looks like irda works |
| 05:19.46 | parmaster | but thats no way to network my damn phone stogether |
| 05:20.11 | BHSPitMonkey | Starting Bluetooth [ FAIL ] |
| 05:20.11 | BHSPitMonkey | Eating shit [ DONE ] |
| 05:21.22 | parmaster | and now that the guy changed around gomunicator even the phone doesn't work for calling anymore |
| 05:21.39 | parmaster | i guess i could try to build the original version from 3 years ago |
| 05:22.19 | ALoGeNo | No USB Host |
| 05:22.22 | ALoGeNo | :( |
| 05:22.26 | ALoGeNo | hi parmaster |
| 05:22.35 | parmaster | hi alogeno |
| 05:22.39 | parmaster | hows trix |
| 05:22.52 | ALoGeNo | im reading that in forums.. in uni usb host not work |
| 05:23.07 | parmaster | does your blueZ bluetooth stack work on uni |
| 05:23.11 | ALoGeNo | put any external wifi in the uni |
| 05:23.12 | ALoGeNo | Xd |
| 05:23.44 | ALoGeNo | i dont have the same structure folder than you in debian |
| 05:23.55 | ALoGeNo | and i think that yes but not sure.. |
| 05:23.58 | parmaster | right, seems like your debian shit kicks ass |
| 05:24.18 | ALoGeNo | you are in debian¿? |
| 05:24.23 | parmaster | nah |
| 05:24.31 | ALoGeNo | aham |
| 05:24.38 | ALoGeNo | openmoko? |
| 05:24.46 | parmaster | although i've been thinking about buying an Exec just to run the actual distro |
| 05:24.58 | parmaster | nah i use alge's latest images |
| 05:25.13 | parmaster | i tried running the fso images |
| 05:25.15 | ALoGeNo | no idea :O |
| 05:25.34 | ALoGeNo | but nice... |
| 05:25.35 | parmaster | i might have been able to console in to them via usb.. but f that.. |
| 05:26.02 | ALoGeNo | i think that my BT is running fine becose it works in opie and the same kernel.. |
| 05:26.23 | ALoGeNo | the same with irda |
| 05:27.31 | ALoGeNo | and i want wifi not bt xD (for this reason im not sure if that works at all ^^) |
| 05:28.18 | ALoGeNo | take a look at here.. |
| 05:28.19 | ALoGeNo | http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25666 |
| 05:28.27 | parmaster | well i am finding a simple solution to network all the phones together |
| 05:28.41 | parmaster | i was hoping it would be bt |
| 05:28.51 | ALoGeNo | i see |
| 05:29.23 | parmaster | that we they can serve a purpose if i have them all turned on |
| 05:29.41 | parmaster | they could run povray or some dipshit thing like that. |
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| 06:15.01 | tmzt | bt should work |
| 06:26.36 | parmaster | i turned it on in /etc/sysconfig |
| 06:26.46 | parmaster | Bluetooth=yes instead of no |
| 06:30.06 | parmaster | you have any proof that bt is working on the ba? |
| 06:31.07 | parmaster | at one point everything was working.. then they encountered problems as they started going upkernel |
| 06:32.51 | tmzt | no, the kernel stuff is just power manager isn't it? |
| 06:33.18 | tmzt | management |
| 06:33.44 | parmaster | well as of all the old writings from years ago yea |
| 06:35.01 | parmaster | i haven't actually verified whats working |
| 06:35.19 | parmaster | the phone i think would work if i rolled back 3 years on the version of gomunicator i'm running |
| 06:35.58 | parmaster | wifi they sign off as working but it crashes the kernel after the driver is only running for a few seconds |
| 06:36.18 | parmaster | irda appears to work fine |
| 06:36.36 | parmaster | usb works fine and rndis works good with it |
| 06:37.10 | parmaster | bt doesn't seem to be working for me.. i'll battle with it more later i guess |
| 06:39.04 | parmaster | tmzt: whats the current status for everybody lately? |
| 06:39.11 | parmaster | how is raphael/diamond coming? |
| 06:39.34 | tmzt | I think the gsm versions are working well |
| 06:39.43 | parmaster | nice |
| 06:40.03 | tmzt | there is RaphaelLinux on xdawiki |
| 06:42.45 | parmaster | cool, looks like some progress is being made |
| 06:54.41 | tmzt | parmaster: sorry, I meant bluetooth should work if the device is powered and you can access the serial port |
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| 12:23.46 | dcordes | ginge_w hi there |
| 12:24.19 | ginge_w | dcordes: well gmorning |
| 12:24.46 | ginge_w | dcordes: I spent a few hours last night working out how the sdhc.dll does clocks. It seems we are doing it almost correctly (close enough anyways) |
| 12:24.49 | dcordes | ginge_w morning |
| 12:25.03 | marajin_ | 'lo ginge_w, dcordes |
| 12:25.28 | dcordes | close enough to ensure the dma problems are not caused by clock? |
| 12:25.45 | dcordes | hi marajin_ |
| 12:25.53 | ginge_w | yeah, we are using the exact same clock settings |
| 12:26.04 | ginge_w | same regs etc |
| 12:26.05 | dcordes | ok |
| 12:26.16 | dcordes | can you see the wifi clocks there too? |
| 12:26.47 | ginge_w | they are, but I didn't see the clock table while digging around. It should be there somewhere |
| 12:27.18 | Marajin | ... I really should stop using cans as impromptu ashtrays. Drinking ashy cola is not healthy |
| 12:27.33 | ginge_w | chewy cola... mmmm |
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| 12:27.53 | rolk | Hi. |
| 12:27.58 | Marajin | ginge_w: Drink of the gods isn't it? :p |
| 12:28.20 | Marajin | ginge_w: chewy beer's even better |
| 12:28.45 | rolk | I saw in the log of yesterday's talk that the SD card is no longer causing problems booting android 1.0 (on polaris)? |
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| 12:32.49 | ginge_w | rolk: no really no longer... its the old 2.6.24 codebase in the htc-msm tree... just happens to be more stable on SHDC cards than > .24 |
| 12:34.14 | rolk | ginge_w: ah. What about non SDHC cards (<= 2GB)? |
| 12:34.31 | ginge_w | rolk: a little unstable |
| 12:34.40 | ginge_w | to be honest the whole thing is still hit and miss |
| 12:35.03 | rolk | ginge_w: and the 'old 2.6.24' code base in the htc-msm tree, what tree do you refer to exactly? |
| 12:37.08 | Marajin | dcordes: what ever happened to the idea of doing a new site? |
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| 12:39.46 | rolk | dcordes: I was going to try to add the keyboard back in the polaris patches. I saw someone else already achieved this. He had trouble getting the patches extracted from his working codebase, but eventually he managed apparently. Do you happen to know if these patches are already made public somewhere? |
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| 12:59.07 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: ping |
| 13:01.42 | dcordes | rolk, you mean dwaradzyn? |
| 13:01.55 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: i tried openmoko on latest ltg kernel on polaris. it boots 2/3 times, in X it responds to onscreen keyboard very well but it barely reponds to touchscreen. if touchscreen is pressed for about 15 seconds it reboots |
| 13:02.33 | dwaradzyn | but it kinda works :) i was able to run terminal put some commands and scroll the screen using touchscreen |
| 13:02.51 | rolk | dcordes: Yes, I think it was dwaradzyn |
| 13:04.41 | dcordes | rolk man how did you get Xfbdev to draw?? |
| 13:05.19 | dcordes | rolk you changed anything in fb? |
| 13:05.39 | dwaradzyn | rolk: i posted on polaris forum that booting android 1.0 doesn to fail on sd issue, it fails on ipc communication |
| 13:06.20 | dwaradzyn | but sd issue is still there, just the latest build i tried was slightly more stable |
| 13:07.06 | rolk | dcordes: I changed nothing :) All I did was checking out the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 branch, apply the patches from szsopftware and compile the kernel with htcpolaris-defconfig. It boots with haret 0.5.1, withthe angstrom initrd. |
| 13:07.32 | rolk | But I cannot do anything with it, as the onscreen keyboard is not in that patched kernel. |
| 13:08.10 | dcordes | angstrom initrd? it has no X |
| 13:08.22 | dcordes | oh confuson |
| 13:08.28 | dcordes | 'ma t work |
| 13:08.42 | rolk | dwaradzyn: you enabled onscreen keyboard, right? Did you also do that on the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 kernel? |
| 13:09.10 | dwaradzyn | no, but i can try if you want |
| 13:10.59 | dwaradzyn | where can i get sources for 2.6.25 from? ltg? |
| 13:11.45 | rolk | dwaradzyn: I cloned the git repository and then checked out the origin/android-msm-htc-2.6.25 branch |
| 13:13.21 | dwaradzyn | which repository was that? |
| 13:15.36 | rolk | dwaradzyn: the android git repository. Let me check. |
| 13:16.57 | rolk | dwaradzyn: git checkout -b my-android-msm-htc-2.6.25 origin/android-msm-htc-2.6.25 |
| 13:18.00 | dwaradzyn | it will take me a while to check it out, i will try to get osk working with that sources and post it on xda |
| 13:18.42 | dwaradzyn | rolk: you applied some patches, which ones exactly? |
| 13:22.07 | rolk | dwaradzyn: that are patches created by a guy named szsoftware. He has not been around on this channel since I joined (dec 5). The patches are located at http://lunuxtogo/~szsoftware/kernel/diffs (from memory). I'll double check. |
| 13:22.59 | rolk | http://linuxtogo.org/~szsoftware/kernel/diffs/02-against_android-msm-htc-2.6.25/ |
| 13:24.01 | rolk | There's three patch files there, apply them in order to the fresh kernel that you get when you do the git checkout after the git clone and they should apply cleanly. They did at least a few days ago. |
| 13:25.54 | dwaradzyn | ok |
| 13:31.57 | rolk | dwaradzyn: I understand you are also working on Polaris? |
| 13:34.33 | rolk | dwaradzyn: and you used the ltg kernel as a basis for your work? |
| 13:35.56 | dwaradzyn | rolk: yes and yes |
| 13:36.10 | dwaradzyn | the patches applied cleanly |
| 13:36.36 | rolk | dwaradzyn: is that a question to me? If so, yes they did. |
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| 13:38.01 | dwaradzyn | i mean: i applied them and it went cleanly |
| 13:42.05 | infernix | dcordes: yo, any word on dzo's progress with kaiser? |
| 13:42.05 | rolk | Ok |
| 13:42.13 | infernix | mine is gathering dust when its not used for tomtom |
| 13:43.28 | infernix | ginge_w: ah, you're working on kaiser sd i see? |
| 13:46.12 | ginge_w | infernix: yeah, of a sort |
| 13:46.44 | ginge_w | infernix: I don't get much free time so I would be happy if someone beat me to getting the damn thing working properly |
| 13:47.02 | rolk | dwaradzyn: which kernel from linuxtogo did you use, exactly? And can you get your patches online somewhere? |
| 13:47.21 | infernix | ginge_w: im clueless with hardware and C, so I can't do it |
| 13:48.12 | infernix | at best i can hack stuff and glue it together but i have no thorough knowledge of what's happening |
| 13:50.03 | dwaradzyn | rolk: i used: git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git; git checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm |
| 13:52.28 | dwaradzyn | rolk: i posted diff on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452108&page=6 |
| 13:53.06 | rolk | dwaradzyn: ok, excellent. I'll checkout the same and apply those patches. Is there a lot of difference between them? |
| 13:54.44 | rolk | dwaradzyn: is 'full_keyboard.diff' the only patch you applied? |
| 13:56.14 | dwaradzyn | yes |
| 14:07.46 | rolk | dwaradzyn: ok. I'll look into it. My git cloning isn't that fast, I have a 1.5 Mbps internet connection... |
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| 14:17.03 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, could you explain againw hat you tried in X and which image and kernel (url?) you used? |
| 14:22.10 | dcordes | rolk, dwaradzyn, did you look at the keyboard for raphael and diamond in the htc-msm-2.6.25 branch? |
| 14:23.07 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: about X: i used http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/openmoko.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2 as rootfs, and htc-msm branch from ltg |
| 14:23.19 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: it worked out of the box |
| 14:24.41 | dcordes | dwaradzyn Ok I need to go pick up a new uSD adapter and try when home |
| 14:27.13 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: what about that raphael/diamond keyboard? |
| 14:28.02 | dcordes | it looks nice and scaleable. maybe you can use it on pola |
| 14:35.24 | dcordes | ginge_w how do you research things like the clock in dlls? I would like to go on the lookout for the wifi clock table |
| 14:36.22 | dcordes | Visual Disassembly 2010 Pro ? |
| 14:46.13 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt can you help me patching ogsmd parser so it will work without the carriage return at the end of the modem messages? |
| 14:51.12 | ginge_w | dcordes: buy a copy of IDA pro and start learning asm |
| 14:52.15 | dcordes | ginge_w ok. can you suggest some onlined ocumentation or literature on asm? |
| 14:53.24 | ginge_w | dcordes: um... not really. I just googled this: http://www.cesis.lv/learn/asm/asmintro.html seems ok |
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| 14:58.50 | dcordes | Marajin sorry I forgot to reply about the website thing. if you have a few minutes this evening we could kick something off.. |
| 15:13.49 | rolk | dwaradzyn: where did you retrieve the android 1.0 rootfs from? |
| 15:17.07 | rolk | dwaradzyn: patched the ltg kernel with your full_keyboard patch, and it builds quite nicely. I'll try it. |
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| 15:21.37 | rolk | dwaradzyn: excellent! Not only does the keyboard work, but also the splash screen displayed properly. I really need to figure out the differences between these two kernels. |
| 15:21.49 | dcordes | rolk do you know the vogue linux website? |
| 15:23.32 | dcordes | rolk you can find a recent android build there. just google search 'vogue linux' |
| 15:24.09 | dwaradzyn | rolk: main difference is is /drivers/video/msm/msm_fb.c |
| 15:24.22 | rolk | dcordes: Ok. |
| 15:25.00 | rolk | dwaradzyn: is there a way to get the 'alt' symbols pressed using this onscreen keyboard? I tried to get a '-', but no such luck. |
| 15:25.03 | dwaradzyn | rolk: after applying szsoftware patches on 2.6.25 there was some polaris specific code missing - hence no keyboard drawn |
| 15:26.08 | dwaradzyn | rolk: '-' is there, its next one after '0' (zero) |
| 15:26.15 | dcordes | rolk I hope in the git kernel and om rootfs you used I get the same X result on kais. |
| 15:27.01 | rolk | dwaradzyn: can you publish the missing bits? |
| 15:27.43 | dwaradzyn | rolk: on 2.6.25 i got the keyboard drawn, but it is blinking :( if i fix it, i will post a diff |
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| 15:30.46 | dcordes | brb |
| 15:32.20 | rolk | Preparing an ext3 partition to hold a rootfs now. I'm eager to try this out. I'd also love to have a Bluetooth/USB connection so that I could do a telnet to the device. I saw that someone was trying something like this... |
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| 16:18.07 | rolk | dcordes: do you know the node name of the block device for the SD card in /dev? |
| 16:19.44 | tmzt | mmcblk0 |
| 16:20.48 | rolk | tmzt: thanks, then this kernel probably does not have support for SD cards compiled in. |
| 16:21.08 | tmzt | unless it's on usb, then sdX |
| 16:21.08 | rolk | There is no mmcblk0 (or any other mmcblk*) device node in /dev. |
| 16:21.33 | tmzt | cat /proc/devices |
| 16:22.24 | rolk | There is a block device mmc, with major number 179. |
| 16:22.38 | rolk | The node is probably not present in the initrd. |
| 16:22.52 | tmzt | just mmc? |
| 16:22.58 | rolk | I'll add it manually, and see whether I can mount the ext3 partition. |
| 16:23.19 | tmzt | ok, you mean on the device? root= doesn't depend on what's in /dev |
| 16:23.24 | rolk | tmzt: Yes, in /proc/devices, there is only '179 mmc' under Block devices: |
| 16:23.38 | tmzt | ls /sys/block/ |
| 16:23.51 | tmzt | then cat /sys/block/mmc*/dev |
| 16:23.55 | rolk | No, I'm not yet trying to have the rootfs on the SD card. |
| 16:24.02 | rolk | I'll try the suggested. |
| 16:24.09 | tmzt | what are you trying to do? |
| 16:24.24 | tmzt | boot from initramfs and then mount sd? |
| 16:25.12 | rolk | I've just booted up the kernel I compiled this afternoon, it uses the angstrom initrd. |
| 16:25.30 | rolk | I also have an SD card inserted, with three partitions. |
| 16:25.38 | rolk | 1) vfat +/- 1000Mb |
| 16:25.42 | tmzt | does it appear in dmesg? |
| 16:25.48 | rolk | 2) ext3 512 Mb |
| 16:25.54 | rolk | 3) ext3 256 Mb |
| 16:26.05 | rolk | I'm just trying to mount one of the ext3 file systems. |
| 16:27.16 | rolk | I think I'm out of luck right now. I'm seeing a lot of mmc0: Command timeout messages in dmesg. |
| 16:28.42 | tmzt | maybe |
| 16:28.47 | tmzt | can you try a different card? |
| 16:29.24 | rolk | I have a different card, but it's the same brand and size. I'll try to locate another one. |
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| 16:50.08 | dcordes | rolk, maybe you use an image with broken udev? |
| 16:52.43 | rolk | dcordes: maybe, don't know. Its the kernel from linuxtogo with the keyboard patch from dwaradzyn. |
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| 17:30.57 | dcordes | rolk, got your sd going? |
| 17:44.03 | rolk | dcordes: no. |
| 17:44.50 | rolk | dcordes: I have been busy with diner, and the kids. Haha. Tonight I will probably be able to do some more work on this stuff. |
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| 20:44.27 | Bally3 | boo! |
| 20:47.45 | Bally3 | anyone seen dwaradzne? |
| 20:50.48 | rolk | No |
| 20:51.05 | rolk | This afternoon he was around. |
| 20:59.35 | Bally3 | hi rolk.. been reading the logs - you guys are certainly making some progress :) |
| 21:00.14 | rolk | Bally3: well, I'm not, really. |
| 21:00.27 | Bally3 | no? |
| 21:00.46 | rolk | I've been able to compile a bootable kernel from the android-git, and from the linux-to-go git. |
| 21:00.57 | Bally3 | but you have got version 1 booting - yes? |
| 21:01.19 | rolk | I have both code bases compiling to a working version. |
| 21:01.22 | Bally3 | I'm still confused to why we're using 0.8? |
| 21:01.32 | rolk | Ah. |
| 21:01.54 | rolk | I'm not sure, but I think it is due to the limit of the ramdisk (initrd) |
| 21:02.08 | rolk | It cannot be much bigger than 20MB. |
| 21:02.14 | Bally3 | but dzo is working with 1.0 - yes? |
| 21:02.15 | rolk | Don't know why. |
| 21:02.38 | Bally3 | did you read dzo's response on the polaris thread? |
| 21:02.49 | rolk | In order to have a fully running versio 1.0, it seems that a working SD card is necessary. |
| 21:03.17 | Bally3 | aah..ok.. but we cant fix the sd card until we can boot? :S |
| 21:04.50 | rolk | Its not too bad. |
| 21:05.06 | Bally3 | have a read of this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3000786&postcount=27 |
| 21:05.49 | rolk | With the linux-to-go code base, I can get to a shell. There is an on-screen keyboard, so I can login and do stuff. |
| 21:06.20 | rolk | I see a block device (mmc0), but the kernel debug messages show no detection of the actual partitions. |
| 21:06.26 | rolk | 'Timed out'. |
| 21:06.46 | Bally3 | aah |
| 21:06.49 | rolk | So, in my kernel, the timing of the sd-mmc commands is still wrong. |
| 21:07.00 | Bally3 | how do you change the timing? |
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| 21:07.42 | Bally3 | according to dzo, his was trial and error |
| 21:07.43 | rolk | However, this polish guy you are looking for, who was here this afternoon; he seems to have had a working kernel on polaris that can read reliably (somewhat) from the SD card. |
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| 21:09.18 | rolk | I'm now comparing the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 branch with the branch I have from linux-to-go to see where the differences are. Because, with the android-git kernel branch I can boot to a login prompt, but the on screen keyboard does not work. |
| 21:09.44 | Bally3 | dwardzyne's been working on ths from day 1 - but he's a lone wolf in this venture - I'm trying to pull everyone together so everyones contributing |
| 21:10.09 | Bally3 | whats your branch? |
| 21:10.14 | rolk | I think I prefer working with the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 branch instead of the ltg branch, but that is just gut feeling. I don't know which kernel is more stable... |
| 21:10.42 | Bally3 | brb |
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| 21:30.11 | Administrator | kind of.. but probably |
| 21:30.12 | Administrator | there you go |
| 21:30.15 | rolk | He, they are back |
| 21:30.23 | Administrator | hehe |
| 21:30.32 | Administrator | damn this asus eee pc |
| 21:30.37 | rolk | Hi guys. I felt kind of lonely here. |
| 21:30.39 | Administrator | damn this asus eee pc :( |
| 21:31.26 | Administrator | im now an op :) |
| 21:31.38 | Administrator | lol |
| 21:32.43 | Administrator | so rolk.. |
| 21:33.06 | Administrator | what did you find from comparing the msm trees? |
| 21:33.44 | Bally3 | better |
| 21:34.15 | rolk | Well, the htcpolaris_defconfig that got introduced to the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 by the patch from szsoftware is horrible. |
| 21:34.42 | rolk | It actually has X86 as the CPU... |
| 21:34.48 | Bally3 | horrible? |
| 21:34.54 | Bally3 | aah |
| 21:35.11 | rolk | That this one compiles to a bootable kernel is simply silly. |
| 21:35.13 | Bally3 | you on amd> |
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| 21:35.43 | Bally3 | are you working on polaris? |
| 21:35.48 | rolk | I'm now trying the htcpolaris-defconfig from the LTG kernel. That one seems much better. |
| 21:35.52 | rolk | Yes, I am |
| 21:36.00 | Bally3 | hi dcordes |
| 21:36.03 | dcordes | evening |
| 21:36.16 | rolk | You may know me from the polaris thread as 'devslashnull' |
| 21:36.38 | Bally3 | wow... didnt realise there were so many ppl working on the polaris version! |
| 21:36.41 | rolk | Hi dcordes. |
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| 21:37.22 | Bally3 | can you post up the files you're usimg please rolk? |
| 21:37.22 | dcordes | I just tried to reconstruct dwar's findings about X on the polaris and it didn't work :( |
| 21:37.33 | Bally3 | damn |
| 21:37.51 | rolk | Bally3: I use two kernel versions. |
| 21:38.04 | Bally3 | is this using 1.0 dcordes? |
| 21:38.37 | dcordes | Bally3, no android, normal linux distribution. |
| 21:38.46 | Bally3 | oh |
| 21:38.57 | rolk | The one from the android git, branch origin/android-msm-htc-2.6.25 with patches applied from szsoftware. |
| 21:39.07 | Bally3 | is that the better way to go? |
| 21:39.43 | Bally3 | rolk: which is the closest to the vogue version yes? |
| 21:39.45 | rolk | And one from linux-to-go, with a patch from this polish guy. |
| 21:39.47 | dcordes | Bally3, depends on your expectations, needs and probably ideals |
| 21:40.48 | Bally3 | lol dcordes - so no pressure then :P |
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| 21:41.55 | dcordes | Bally3, hmm? |
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| 21:42.16 | rolk | dcordes: I've been horrified by the htcpolaris-defconfig that I got from the szsoftware patches. It configures the build fro a X86 CPU (haha!). I've grabbed the polaris def config from the LTG branch, and it is much cleaner, except that it has a flag for 'Trout' support (CONFIG_MACH_TROUT). I suspect that would be in error. Could you comment? |
| 21:42.17 | Bally3 | rolk: Dwaradzyne posted that he was using the wrong sources |
| 21:42.38 | rolk | He was using the LTG sources. |
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| 21:43.57 | dcordes | rolk, the trout options should only be present in the android-msm-htc-2.6.25 code |
| 21:44.19 | rolk | Yes, I'm working with that now. |
| 21:44.32 | dcordes | rolk, at the time of the last commit to the htc-msm branch, there was no trout code publicly available. |
| 21:45.06 | rolk | dcordes: that would be the ltg htc-msm branch? |
| 21:45.49 | dcordes | yes |
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| 21:49.36 | Bally3 | lo flo |
| 21:49.46 | rolk | I've adapted the configuration of the kernel. There were some questionable settings (64 bit memory?) |
| 21:50.37 | dcordes | odd maybe you accidently had the wrong ARCH set? |
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| 21:50.50 | imfloflo | hello all |
| 21:59.10 | rolk | Funny. |
| 21:59.46 | rolk | I just checked the actual content of the patch that I applied to the LTG code, the full_keyboard patch from that polish guy? |
| 22:00.15 | Bally3 | dwaradzyne? |
| 22:00.26 | rolk | It creates a new full_keyboard.c file, in arch/arm/mach-msm, but it does not add it to the Makefile, in any configuration. So it never gets compiled... |
| 22:00.39 | rolk | That the man. |
| 22:01.59 | Bally3 | can you fix that? |
| 22:02.17 | rolk | The fun thing is: the code is running. |
| 22:02.34 | rolk | I can boot into the kernel, and I have an on screen keyboard. |
| 22:02.55 | Bally3 | wow |
| 22:03.03 | Bally3 | gimme!! |
| 22:03.10 | Bally3 | :) |
| 22:03.13 | rolk | Logically, this means the code base from LTG compiles cleanly with the supplied htcpolaris-defconfig. |
| 22:03.17 | imfloflo | which kernel |
| 22:03.37 | rolk | The kernel from Linux to go. |
| 22:04.02 | Bally3 | could you post it up please rolk? |
| 22:04.11 | rolk | I don't need to. |
| 22:04.19 | Bally3 | :O |
| 22:04.31 | rolk | The stuff is already out there. |
| 22:04.37 | rolk | I'll find the link |
| 22:04.38 | Bally3 | what do yoo mean ? :P |
| 22:04.43 | rolk | Wait a second. |
| 22:04.47 | Bally3 | compiled |
| 22:04.53 | Bally3 | thanks |
| 22:05.04 | rolk | Nah, you'd have to compile it. |
| 22:05.34 | rolk | I'll see whether I can get a zImage uploaded. |
| 22:06.42 | Bally3 | thanks rolk |
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| 22:09.25 | rolk | Here's the link to the initrd (ramdisk). http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom-20081127.cpio.gz |
| 22:10.37 | rolk | Just rename the file to initrd, and make sure the default.txt file uses the same. |
| 22:10.46 | Bally3 | thanks rolk.. let me try it |
| 22:11.01 | Bally3 | :) |
| 22:12.06 | rolk | Here's the zImage: http://rapidshare.com/files/171893722/zImage.html |
| 22:12.10 | drofmij | what date is the latest kaiser kernel? |
| 22:12.43 | imfloflo | only kaiser or polaris too ? must be on a ext2 SD ? |
| 22:13.09 | dcordes | drofmij, hi, the latest build? |
| 22:14.11 | drofmij | Hi dcordes, if I build from the git branch htc-msm is that the correct branch for kaiser? |
| 22:14.34 | drofmij | or is there a newer zimage online somewhere? |
| 22:15.39 | dcordes | drofmij, yes it's a good branch to use and the only one in a vcs |
| 22:16.07 | dcordes | there is newer code based on the 2.6.25 g1 branch |
| 22:16.50 | Bally3 | thanks rolk - does the angstrom file sit in the root of the sd card |
| 22:17.09 | drofmij | where can I find that branch? |
| 22:17.33 | dcordes | the g1 branch is at google git |
| 22:17.54 | drofmij | ok, is the kaiser code in there? or would I need a diff from somewhere? |
| 22:18.01 | dcordes | diff |
| 22:18.44 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082210.diff |
| 22:18.54 | drofmij | ok cool |
| 22:19.02 | drofmij | I'm trying to learn enough so I can help out |
| 22:19.22 | drofmij | but I haven't done kernel programming before |
| 22:21.17 | dcordes | you win a price if you can tell me why Xserver works on polaris but not on kaiser, both with the htc-msm branch kernel |
| 22:21.17 | rolk | Bally3: the initrd (angstrom.cpio.gz) file can sit wherever you have stored your haret.exe |
| 22:21.57 | imfloflo | cause polaris is newer than kaiser :) |
| 22:22.56 | dcordes | I'll build with the onscreen keyboard.. |
| 22:26.59 | rolk | Bally3: make sure that in the file default.txt you have a line 'set initrd <file>' where you replace <file> with the name you have chosen for the angstrom.cpio.gz file. |
| 22:28.19 | rolk | Crap. |
| 22:29.05 | rolk | I've build the android kernel with the htcpolaris-defconfig from the LTG git, but the onscreen keyboard still does not work. |
| 22:32.24 | Bally3 | Ive tried the zimage with the angstrom but i just get it hanging at boot |
| 22:34.40 | Bally3 | one mo |
| 22:34.43 | rolk | Bally3: can you copy the contents of your 'default' file? |
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| 22:37.25 | Kensan | dcordes: hi |
| 22:37.51 | dcordes | hey what's up man |
| 22:41.03 | Kensan | dcordes: not much, lots of other stuff to take care off atm. |
| 22:41.28 | Kensan | dcordes: how are things on your end? Last thing I heard was that you were trying to get X up via the kaisers fb. Any luck? |
| 22:42.16 | dcordes | no I jst went back to the older kernel in git because a guy said X works with it on the polaris |
| 22:45.39 | Bally3 | its this one but with angstrom in the set initrd rolk: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=135238&d=1228566453 |
| 22:48.55 | rolk | Bally3: I've got 'set MTYPE 1723'. |
| 22:49.05 | dcordes | somebody know what "#define NEED_UPDATE 0x3" switch in msm_fb.c does? |
| 22:50.24 | rolk | Bally3: and 'set cmdline "rw mem=128M" |
| 22:50.44 | rolk | Bally3: and 'set gbduringboot 0' |
| 22:51.13 | rolk | Bally3: sorry, that last one should have been 'set fbduringboot 0' |
| 22:54.20 | Bally3 | its booting! |
| 22:54.25 | Bally3 | :) |
| 22:54.39 | Bally3 | thanks rolk... now ets see what we can do.. |
| 22:54.42 | imfloflo | nice worl |
| 22:54.49 | imfloflo | work* |
| 22:55.20 | Bally3 | starting spsd |
| 22:55.44 | Bally3 | gps warning? |
| 22:56.08 | Bally3 | whats my login |
| 22:56.22 | dcordes | root blank |
| 22:57.13 | Bally3 | roothtcraphael: |
| 22:58.04 | Bally3 | so i got root.. excellent |
| 22:58.25 | rolk | Bally3: be the boss on your phone! |
| 22:58.33 | Bally3 | lol! |
| 22:58.40 | imfloflo | on openmoko? |
| 22:58.49 | Bally3 | isnt that what we're working for? |
| 22:58.52 | Bally3 | :P |
| 22:59.09 | Bally3 | how do I load the gui? |
| 22:59.24 | imfloflo | startX |
| 22:59.49 | Bally3 | I thought x wasnt working?? |
| 23:00.47 | Bally3 | not found |
| 23:01.07 | rolk | That you would find in your initrd. |
| 23:01.46 | rolk | Which provides you with a root file system. You know, with the familiar directories (etc, usr, bin, ...) |
| 23:02.20 | rolk | But angstrom doesn't have startx/X11 stuff, afaik, |
| 23:02.37 | dcordes | rolk, could you try this openmoko image on your polaris? http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/openmoko.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2 |
| 23:04.51 | rolk | Crap. I still don't have an onscreen keyboard with the G1 branch as I ahve with the LTG branch. |
| 23:05.35 | Bally3 | I have an onscreen keyboard.. but i cant type in the letters in white |
| 23:05.41 | Bally3 | like dash |
| 23:07.36 | glyph | dcordes: hey, I just wanted to let you know that I gave debugging that fb issue a try, and I have to say I am sadly out of my depth :) |
| 23:09.12 | rolk | dcordes: that openmoko rootfs, what format is it? |
| 23:09.47 | dcordes | rolk, what do you mean, format? I put it on ext2 partition on sd |
| 23:10.27 | Bally3 | right off to bed.. see ya everyone tomorrow.. thanks for the heads uo rolk.. :) |
| 23:10.55 | imfloflo | gn bally3 |
| 23:10.56 | dcordes | good night |
| 23:14.59 | dcordes | glyph, what did you try? |
| 23:15.18 | rolk | dcordes: ok, so the whole thing is actually a tar archive, just as the name would imply (oops). |
| 23:15.42 | dcordes | yea |
| 23:15.54 | rolk | dcordes: I don't think I can test it right now, as I still haven't been able to get my SD card mounted. |
| 23:16.15 | dcordes | sd seems to work well for dwar |
| 23:16.31 | rolk | The best chance would be with the LTG kernel, but I'm trying to get the G1 branch going on Polaris. |
| 23:17.15 | rolk | Yes, he says he has it working... I must have missed some of his patches though. The one I have is only to add a file, which does not get compiled. |
| 23:17.26 | rolk | So its a pretty lame patch on its own. |
| 23:18.24 | dcordes | hm what file? |
| 23:21.23 | glyph | dcordes: I thrashed around looking for an appropriate android.bin (that took forever to track down, and I'm still not sure I have the right one), put it on the phone, and watched the screen go black :). I haven't found any instructions on getting a console up so I can see what is going on remotely. |
| 23:21.55 | dcordes | remotely? |
| 23:22.09 | glyph | dcordes: I mean via a USB cable or a network or something |
| 23:22.13 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom-20081127.cpio.gz this is a good console initrd |
| 23:22.13 | glyph | I assume USB cable is the way to go |
| 23:23.00 | rolk | dcordes: full_keyboard.c |
| 23:23.02 | glyph | dcordes: OK, so once I've installed that, how do I go from there to android? |
| 23:23.21 | rolk | dcordes: that's just a file with an embedded graphics definition in it. |
| 23:23.39 | dcordes | rolk, maybe it replaces the android keyboard c file? |
| 23:23.50 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:23.59 | rolk | Could be. Dunno. |
| 23:25.09 | rolk | I'm off for tonight. Bye. |
| 23:25.21 | glyph | dcordes: and as long as you're helping me out here, where am I supposed to get android .bin releases from? I found this linked from some forum post |
| 23:26.19 | dcordes | glyph, you don't really wanna start android from the console initrd |
| 23:26.58 | glyph | dcordes: OK. I hate to waste your time, but I really have no idea how to go about this :). Can you walk me through the appropriate steps to set up debugging? |
| 23:27.49 | dcordes | you don't. I don't really know what you want to achieve |
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| 23:37.39 | dcordes | good night |