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| 04:28.53 | user123 | Anyone else having trouble accessing handhelds.org? |
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| 06:20.57 | tekkdrone | surely, version control was invented by a man who like to drink and code |
| 06:21.04 | tekkdrone | liked* even |
| 06:30.42 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone: hi, did you get a working kernel for apache then? |
| 06:31.55 | tekkdrone | oh I'd had one for a while, touchscreen support and all, but all the upper hardware required proper egpio access |
| 06:32.03 | tekkdrone | wifi, audio, etc |
| 06:32.50 | tekkdrone | finding the right answer for egpio from Kevin sent me back to the code for a while, I actually started from scratch with a new understanding of things |
| 06:33.11 | tekkdrone | so far, I'm back to the android desktop, with keyboard, video, and mouse (touchscreen) with 0 hacks, all clean code |
| 06:34.08 | tekkdrone | of course I can't take credit for the original working apache kernel from handhelds.org's cvs, which is also the source of the values I'm plugging in on my new mach definition |
| 06:35.05 | tekkdrone | 2.6.21 would've been hell to backport the android drivers to, so it made more sense to port the htc apache code up to the 2.6.25 android kernel |
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| 06:39.45 | tekkdrone | hey tmzt_: what's your ide of choice? |
| 07:04.19 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone: don't really use one, I use gedit for most code editing now and compile on the command line |
| 07:04.42 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone: are you using the non-msm android tree from google? |
| 07:04.47 | tekkdrone | yes |
| 07:04.54 | tekkdrone | and yeah, that's pretty much how i'm using kdevelop |
| 07:05.01 | tekkdrone | a glorified text editor with a file tree |
| 07:05.20 | tmzt_ | probably more similar to kate |
| 07:05.52 | tekkdrone | more or less, I like the ability to side-by-side code with include pages, gedit makes me split off a new window |
| 07:05.54 | tmzt_ | I would like to have some project support in the sidebar but not everything anjunta provides |
| 07:06.26 | tmzt_ | ah, right, it has tabs but not split views I think |
| 07:06.32 | tekkdrone | aye |
| 07:06.44 | tmzt_ | I just arrange windows if I need that |
| 07:07.05 | tekkdrone | i was for a while but it was getting out of hand, even with a 22" widescreen |
| 07:07.25 | tmzt_ | you have a working pxafb and pxa tree with android support then? |
| 07:07.42 | tekkdrone | yes |
| 07:08.12 | tekkdrone | I had one about a week ago but was full of dirty hacks, the new one is clean |
| 07:08.49 | tmzt_ | nice |
| 07:09.02 | tekkdrone | still a bunch of stuff to add support for of course, since I pretty much started over I still have to add in the newly-understood htc-egpio |
| 07:09.23 | tekkdrone | though I imagine I'll have to pull in the gpio from 2.6.27 to do so |
| 07:09.45 | tekkdrone | or at least, a couple struct members |
| 07:09.52 | tmzt_ | why? for the gpiolib support for irq/masking? |
| 07:10.56 | tekkdrone | not sure yet, so far I've only been able to tell that the 2.6.27 htc-egpio requires a couple of struct members that aren't present in 2.6.25's gpiolib |
| 07:11.23 | tekkdrone | previously I was using kevin's old gpio code from 2.6.21, hence the dirty hacks |
| 07:11.42 | tekkdrone | now i'm using 2.6.25's gpiolib |
| 07:12.37 | tekkdrone | o |
| 07:12.50 | tekkdrone | * i'm new to coding in the kernel, so my brain's still on fire |
| 07:13.55 | tekkdrone | I just started this a couple of weeks ago, was interesting trying to undertand what needed to be done to accomplish what I've got done so far |
| 07:14.06 | tekkdrone | *understand, even |
| 07:17.53 | tmzt_ | are you using something like this? |
| 07:17.55 | tmzt_ | .lcd_conn= LCD_COLOR_TFT_8BPP | LCD_PCLK_EDGE_FALL |\ |
| 07:17.55 | tmzt_ | + LCD_AC_BIAS_FREQ(0xff), |
| 07:18.24 | tmzt_ | instead of lccr0, lccr3 |
| 07:19.10 | tmzt_ | sorry, tekkdrone, that's a bad example, but I mean .lcd_conn |
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| 07:25.30 | tekkdrone | hmmm .lcd_conn doesn't look familiar |
| 07:26.23 | tekkdrone | i'm using .lccr0 = LCCR0_LDDALT | LCCR0_Act, in my pxafb_mach_info |
| 07:26.50 | tekkdrone | pulled in from the original htcapache.c |
| 07:27.02 | tmzt_ | the more common ones have a LCD_COLOR_TFT_8BPP or similar now |
| 07:29.27 | tekkdrone | aye, I needed to investigate those definitions as I noticed lack of alpha support in android when things like the volume dialog come up |
| 07:30.22 | tekkdrone | instead of a nice, shaded dialog, I get a dialog that flickers a bit |
| 07:30.51 | tekkdrone | (being visual though, it got shifted to the bottom of the list) |
| 07:32.00 | tmzt_ | .lcd_conn = LCD_COLOR_TFT_16BPP, this is all I have for mine and it seems to work, no lccr0 or 3 |
| 07:32.23 | tmzt_ | I also have timings extracted from windows, but apache's are in the htcapache.c file |
| 07:32.52 | tekkdrone | aye, I think they were extracted from windows as well, I know at least the margins were |
| 07:34.47 | tekkdrone | touchscreen is smooth, I had to write some scaling though, android was not game for values in the thousands |
| 07:35.12 | tmzt_ | 0.8 wasn't or 1.0 also? |
| 07:35.38 | tekkdrone | I don't know, is 0.8 = m5? |
| 07:35.47 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 07:36.01 | tekkdrone | I don't think I had touch working in m5 before moving up to release |
| 07:38.05 | tekkdrone | had gotten as far as a working battery meter and charging that may or may not detonate the phone before starting from scrath |
| 07:38.05 | tekkdrone | scratch* |
| 07:38.06 | tekkdrone | (on 1.0) |
| 07:38.06 | tekkdrone | I started over after talking to kevin yesterday, this time I made alot more minor commits to my repository so I could backstep if I need to |
| 07:41.48 | tekkdrone | (apache's battery and ts control are based on the ad7877 chip) |
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| 07:42.12 | tmzt_ | there is a driver in 2.6.25/27? |
| 07:42.47 | tekkdrone | no, I pulled in the adc driver from 2.6.21-hh and made some small changes |
| 07:43.02 | tmzt_ | both adc and ts? |
| 07:43.14 | tekkdrone | adc, ts-adc, and adc_batteru |
| 07:43.19 | tekkdrone | adc_battery* |
| 07:44.51 | tmzt_ | http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=linux-kernel:drivers:ad7877 |
| 07:45.02 | tmzt_ | http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=touchscreen |
| 07:45.15 | tmzt_ | is it on spi? |
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| 07:46.33 | tekkdrone | no I don't believe it's using spi |
| 07:48.31 | tekkdrone | nope, spi support isn't in the kernel at all at the moment |
| 07:49.05 | tmzt_ | what do you mean? spi support for ad7877 or pxa? |
| 07:50.15 | tekkdrone | spi support overall |
| 07:50.40 | tmzt_ | it's in the openezx kernel, which is now based on 2.6.28-rcX |
| 07:51.03 | tmzt_ | if it's not on spi it doesn't matter |
| 07:51.04 | tekkdrone | nono, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, it's not in my kernel at all at the moment |
| 07:51.26 | tekkdrone | it's in the kernel itself, but it's not configured for the build |
| 07:51.27 | tmzt_ | you mean your not using it? it's not enabled in .config? |
| 07:51.30 | tekkdrone | right |
| 07:51.30 | tmzt_ | ok |
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| 07:54.43 | tekkdrone | is there an advantage in suing SPI over native hardware code? |
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| 07:54.51 | tekkdrone | using* |
| 07:55.11 | tmzt_ | you mean it is spi and you are talking to it over ssp? |
| 07:55.41 | tekkdrone | aye I'm using pxa_ssp |
| 07:56.13 | tmzt_ | I think chip_select is one reason, and that any upstream driver is going to use spi host |
| 07:56.26 | tmzt_ | also, there is support for pxa spi host |
| 07:56.40 | tekkdrone | aye I noticed, as well as mmc/sd support over spi |
| 07:57.10 | tmzt_ | apache is probably pxa-mci though |
| 07:58.39 | tmzt_ | my first attempt to port linux to motoq used the apache code in hh kernel as base, my second used magician.c in upstream 2.6.26 and then imported that into openezx where the drivers I need are maintained for similar devices |
| 07:59.07 | tmzt_ | one thing that worked was the sd driver using pxa_mci |
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| 07:59.19 | tekkdrone | aye, it works like a charm using pxamci |
| 07:59.33 | tekkdrone | 'cept it bitches about descriptors on some odd cards |
| 07:59.41 | tekkdrone | haven't had time to look into that yet |
| 08:00.29 | tekkdrone | and you're tempting me, don't make me appropriate the wife's Q |
| 08:00.32 | tekkdrone | >_< |
| 08:00.49 | tmzt_ | cdma? oh |
| 08:01.38 | tekkdrone | aye we're both cdma |
| 08:02.00 | tekkdrone | *sigh* I am definitely getting outside help when time comes for the rol |
| 08:02.03 | tekkdrone | ril* |
| 08:02.16 | tmzt_ | on apache? |
| 08:03.11 | tmzt_ | fso singleline might work, and if it's a msm6550 on usb host (ohci) you might just need to set UP3OCR properly |
| 08:03.45 | tmzt_ | I do that and load usbserial (generic) with the right vend/prod_id's and it detects three serial ports |
| 08:03.55 | tmzt_ | apache is probably a little different |
| 08:04.43 | tmzt_ | for android, dzo's ril should work if you can get a clean serial port |
| 08:06.39 | tekkdrone | hmmmm |
| 08:07.04 | tekkdrone | it's an msm6500, comes up as FFUART ttyS0 |
| 08:07.13 | tmzt_ | only? |
| 08:07.33 | tmzt_ | does n_tihtc work? |
| 08:07.52 | tekkdrone | what's n_tihtc? |
| 08:08.11 | tmzt_ | line discipline for multiplexing protocol |
| 08:08.49 | tmzt_ | I keep forgetting Kevin2 has documentation on most of this, but I don't think he traced usb access to the modem, there's a note about it in ApachePhoneTrace |
| 08:09.28 | tekkdrone | aye, that was going to be the starting point once I got to working on the radio |
| 08:10.23 | tekkdrone | only being a couple weeks in, I haven't even glanced at it yet as I'm still gaining my understanding of the code kevin wrote while porting what I can over to 2.6.25 |
| 08:12.16 | tmzt_ | The PXA's FFUART port is attached to the phone. The connection carries phone commands. |
| 08:12.19 | tmzt_ | The PXA's USB Host controller also communicates with the phone. It is thought that a second serial port comes up via the USB connection. |
| 08:13.00 | tmzt_ | from http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/ApachePhoneTrace |
| 08:14.15 | tekkdrone | ok, I remember reading that a while back and thinking it was related to using the unit as a slave modem |
| 08:14.27 | tekkdrone | and just hadn't gotten to investigating it further yet |
| 08:14.58 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.59 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.59 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.59 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.59 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.01 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.03 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.04 | tekkdrone | I didn't see any host code for the apache, only pxa udc |
| 08:15.06 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.09 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.11 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.14 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.17 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.19 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.22 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.25 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:15.46 | tmzt_ | tekkdrone: have you gone through Drivers\Active\ ? |
| 08:15.54 | tekkdrone | where? |
| 08:16.14 | tmzt_ | in the registry, use phm registry editor or similar |
| 08:16.34 | tekkdrone | ahh, no I haven't |
| 08:17.21 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:17.21 | tmzt_ | 237 .port_mode = PMM_NPS_MODE, |
| 08:17.21 | tmzt_ | 238 .init = ezx_ohci_init, |
| 08:17.22 | tmzt_ | 239 }; |
| 08:19.15 | tmzt_ | I didn't write it, but after adding it I could use lsusb and everything else to enumerate the usb bus |
| 08:19.42 | tekkdrone | nice, I just saved it to my chat logs |
| 08:19.55 | tekkdrone | I've gotta crash, get up for work in 5 hrs |
| 08:19.57 | tekkdrone | ugh |
| 08:21.05 | tekkdrone | thanks for the insight tmz :) |
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| 10:22.48 | glyph | hello htc hackers |
| 10:23.06 | glyph | I have just installed android on my kaiser from http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
| 10:23.16 | glyph | it was incredibly easy, I made a phone call |
| 10:23.22 | glyph | my mind is officially blown |
| 10:23.35 | glyph | but, I can't do much more than make a call :). I'm wondering how I can help out with development, get a toolchain going, etc |
| 10:25.49 | glyph | I am a competent enough developer, but not used to the arcana of kernel-land and I've only done a little bit of embedded work; the "enthusiast" instructions are really confusing and don't tell me how to actually compile an image :) |
| 10:27.14 | glyph | assuming I can get a zImage out of the end of this thing, what do I do to get started on i.e. making the touchscreen less tweaky or enabling landscape mode? |
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| 16:57.10 | marajin_ | ginge_w: 'lo there stranger |
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| 17:00.12 | ginge_w | marajin_: evening |
| 17:00.22 | ginge_w | marajin_: how goes |
| 17:03.33 | marajin_ | not too bad.. tad tired but what's new eh? |
| 17:03.39 | marajin_ | how about yourself? |
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| 17:23.42 | tekkdrone | tmzt_ I added that ohci init code this morning before coming to work and had some interesting results |
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| 17:25.09 | ginge_w | marajin_: yeah not bad, busy at work leaving 0 time to hack :( |
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| 17:43.44 | marajin_ | ginge_w: any excuse :p |
| 17:50.01 | AstainHellbring | whats the status of android for kaiser? |
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| 18:05.26 | MrObvious | Hello. |
| 18:06.03 | MrObvious | I'm getting the message booting up Android on my PPC6800: [ (numbers) ] android_power: wakeup (0->0) at (numbers) (time) |
| 18:06.41 | MrObvious | It just loops. |
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| 18:23.09 | MrObvious | Nevermind. Bad FAT32 format on SD card. |
| 18:23.13 | MrObvious | Fixed now. |
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| 21:32.07 | dwaradzyn | binder: 367:367 unknown command 25356 |
| 21:32.20 | dwaradzyn | binder: 367:367 ioctl c0186201 be987af8 returned -22 |
| 21:32.30 | dwaradzyn | binder: 367:367 ERROR: Thread waiting for process work before calling bcREGISTER_LOOPER or bcENTER_LOOPER (state 10) |
| 21:32.44 | dwaradzyn | what does this mean? how to overcome that? |
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| 22:29.37 | dcordes | ginge_w, good evening. still around? |
| 22:30.24 | ginge_w | dcordes: evening. |
| 22:30.38 | dcordes | how are you? |
| 22:30.44 | ginge_w | dcordes: good. You? |
| 22:30.53 | dcordes | I'm ok |
| 22:31.08 | glyph | good evening |
| 22:33.55 | ginge_w | dcordes: so I started looking at the SD issue again :/ |
| 22:34.31 | ginge_w | dcordes: did anyone make any progress on anything while I was away? |
| 22:35.24 | dcordes | ginge_w, I fear no. dzo said we should use 2.6.27 msm_sdcc in order to use PIO. |
| 22:35.47 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3010313&postcount=1745 |
| 22:36.07 | ginge_w | dcordes: ok. I can't help but think we should focus on getting DMA and datamover to stay in sync |
| 22:36.52 | dwaradzyn | i tried to boot android 1.0 with latest git.linuxtogo.org kernel and there was no sd issue |
| 22:37.09 | dwaradzyn | it unpacked system.img and data.img without error |
| 22:37.28 | ginge_w | dwaradzyn: really? |
| 22:37.47 | ginge_w | dwaradzyn: I always get about 1/3rd through system |
| 22:38.10 | dwaradzyn | i was suprise too, i did not change any line of code |
| 22:38.50 | ginge_w | dwaradzyn: maybe my last effort was closer than we thought |
| 22:38.59 | ginge_w | scratches head |
| 22:39.09 | ginge_w | what card are you using? |
| 22:39.18 | ginge_w | some of my cards work better than others for SD boot |
| 22:39.22 | dwaradzyn | 8gb sandisk |
| 22:39.31 | ginge_w | SDHC? |
| 22:39.32 | dcordes | ginge_w, what does datamover do? if you are interested in booting the newest android, you can just exctract the files |
| 22:39.42 | dwaradzyn | ginge_w: yes |
| 22:39.52 | dcordes | ginge_w, on his website dzo says sdhc cards work better with his vogue kernel |
| 22:40.19 | ginge_w | dcordes: datamover is like dma for a9<->a11 comms |
| 22:40.31 | ginge_w | dcordes: damn I was specifically avoiding using SDHC |
| 22:40.35 | dwaradzyn | i'll try to put it to harder test: make 4 parallel copying of a big movie file |
| 22:41.08 | ginge_w | dwaradzyn: it seems to break much faster on parallel read/writes copy 2 and write 2, that should bust it up |
| 22:41.19 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, what makes it always crash for me is doing fast forward in mplayer while playing a movie |
| 22:41.51 | glyph | thank you all so much for doing this work, btw |
| 22:41.58 | ginge_w | 2.6.27 is not much different from 2.6.26 |
| 22:42.08 | glyph | I booted android on my AT&T tilt last night and it took about 5 minutes of work, maybe less, my mind is completely blown |
| 22:42.09 | dwaradzyn | damn it, there is no way to do ctrl+z on green keyboard... |
| 22:42.09 | dcordes | glyph, thank ginge_w |
| 22:42.15 | glyph | ginge_w: thank you |
| 22:42.35 | glyph | I am interested in trying to help out |
| 22:43.00 | dcordes | ginge_w, well did we try 2.6.26 sd? |
| 22:43.11 | ginge_w | glyph: don't thank me, we all do our little part |
| 22:43.57 | ginge_w | dcordes: yes, do you remember that massive sdcc patchset a while ago. San sent it to me. It breaks faster then 2.6.25 because it uses interrupts for dma and datamover instead of polling for the dataend. |
| 22:44.11 | ginge_w | sort of brings the inevitable sooner |
| 22:44.47 | dcordes | I see. that's why it seems more tsable for people using git kernel |
| 22:44.58 | dcordes | stable |
| 22:45.11 | ginge_w | which git kernel? ltg or vanilla? |
| 22:45.26 | dcordes | the htc-msm ltg one |
| 22:45.40 | dcordes | which dwaradzyn uses |
| 22:46.03 | dwaradzyn | ginge_w: i tried fast forward in mplayer and it rebooted my polaris after a while, not sure if it was caused by sd issue |
| 22:46.25 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, which green keyboard? |
| 22:46.40 | ginge_w | it doesn't normlly reboot... it just locks |
| 22:47.01 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, oh so you are using the osk. though you had a kaiser |
| 22:47.20 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: i've made a full pc keyboard to play with angstrom |
| 22:47.56 | ginge_w | dcordes: htc-msm is .24? |
| 22:47.58 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: but i had many problems producing a patch with that one and i did not post my changes |
| 22:47.59 | dcordes | yea |
| 22:48.39 | ginge_w | dcordes: yeah that kernel works really well with sd. There is an even older revision somewhere that works even better |
| 22:49.58 | dcordes | btw, do you have some version where gps channel works? it's broken in htc-msm and newer revisions |
| 22:50.13 | ginge_w | dcordes: broken? howso? |
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| 22:50.43 | dcordes | the node doesn't work, you can't read from it |
| 22:50.57 | ginge_w | dcordes: Did I send you any notes for the CE sdhc dll disassembly? |
| 22:51.11 | ginge_w | dcordes: is the node automatic? |
| 22:51.31 | ginge_w | dcordes: some devices changed major num iirc |
| 22:51.42 | dcordes | yes I updated all the angstrom images on my site |
| 22:52.04 | dcordes | the ones with static devices are gone |
| 22:52.07 | ginge_w | can you diff to a working? |
| 22:52.12 | ginge_w | in git? |
| 22:52.22 | ginge_w | do we even have reviions that far back? |
| 22:52.50 | dcordes | unfortunately my search for a diff or tree where it's working remains unsuccessful |
| 22:53.25 | ginge_w | shound't be hard to fix... start in smd_tty and check to make sureit has a device entry in those ifchecks |
| 22:54.07 | ginge_w | dcordes: if not I have 12GB of all the crap that was ever pastebinned or diffed |
| 22:55.01 | dcordes | ok that's great. I will see if I can get it working otherwise I will ask for your archivee |
| 22:55.08 | glyph | so if I'm interested in helping with something, do you have something that you could point me at to get started? |
| 22:55.45 | dcordes | ginge_w, so about sd.. what would be wrong about dma and datamover? how can we try things out? |
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| 23:01.39 | ginge_w | dcordes: well, logging and decompiling the dll again (can't find my copies) |
| 23:01.57 | dcordes | ginge_w, sorry- no you never sent me a mail about that |
| 23:02.06 | ginge_w | oh well |
| 23:02.19 | ginge_w | dcordes: I suspect clocks |
| 23:04.47 | dcordes | glyph, which device do you want to help with? |
| 23:19.12 | glyph | dcordes: AT&T Tilt (AKA Kaiser, TyTN II) |
| 23:20.30 | glyph | dcordes: My main interest is getting Android running for real, but I don't know what else is possible / interesting :) |
| 23:21.42 | dcordes | then you should try to sort out why 1.0 doesn't seem to work with the kaiser fb |
| 23:22.49 | dcordes | read last two days logs. I tried to make it start |
| 23:22.55 | glyph | dcordes: How can I get diagnostic information out of the phone? Is there some kind of USB console thing I can inspect from my Linux desktop? (Or should I be doing development in Windows?) |
| 23:23.00 | glyph | dcordes: OK, I'll go have a look at the logs |
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| 23:28.15 | dwaradzyn | when i do git-diff the produced output does not include new file added by me |
| 23:28.44 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, git-add new/file.c |
| 23:28.53 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: thanks |
| 23:29.03 | dcordes | check with git-status what's added to your index, what's not |
| 23:33.04 | dwaradzyn | git-diff still does not include new file |
| 23:34.09 | ginge_w | what command are you using for git-diff? |
| 23:35.39 | dwaradzyn | got it, git-diff --cached > ../patch.diff worked |
| 23:35.40 | ginge_w | ok, should be no problem there |
| 23:35.40 | ginge_w | and git-status shows your file? |
| 23:35.47 | dwaradzyn | yes, it works now |
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| 23:39.11 | dcordes | dwaradzyn, I use git-diff <branchname> |
| 23:48.58 | dcordes | ginge_w, need some sleep |
| 23:49.00 | dcordes | good night |
| 23:56.43 | Bushman | guys, i need help with dnsmasq |
| 23:56.49 | Bushman | anyone can help me out here? |
| 23:57.02 | Bushman | how do i configure DNS? |
| 23:57.32 | Bushman | i can ping google.com from the machine running dnsmasq but not from the client |