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00:14.38kirberichhi
00:16.39kirberichanyone here involved in trying to port android to the xperia x1?
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00:48.46NetRippergod
00:49.15NetRippercan anyone explain to me in a nutshell how to commit to linuxtogo? no clue on how it works with developer access and committing
00:49.18NetRipper:p
00:57.12NetRipperkirberich, schlash is working on x1 but haven't seen him in a while..
00:59.24kirberichtoo bad
00:59.51kirberichwell i'll be back tomorrow, it would be awesome to get it ported to the x1
01:00.08NetRipperhe had it booting
01:00.11NetRippernot sure how far he got
01:00.17kirberichhe did? awesome
01:00.34kirberichthe latest posts I read were of people trying to get one of the other htc ports to boot, but without success
01:00.50NetRipperyea he made some changes to get it booting
01:00.58NetRipperlet me see if its in my log
01:01.03kirberichthx
01:04.18NetRipperhm ok seems it's the panel that isn't recognized
01:04.38NetRipper20:56 <schlash> the xperia had problem with the mddi driver thats why it didnt load.  probably the same for diamond sprint
01:04.44NetRipperthat's indeed what we had with raph800
01:05.14kirberichbut it boots on the raph, right?
01:05.18NetRipperyou'll need to boot with druidu's boot console enabled and check which panel it detects
01:05.31NetRipperthen add that panel to mddi_client_toshiba
01:05.36NetRipperor dummy
01:05.51NetRippertoo bad i can't get my comitting to work
01:06.59kirberichwell, thanks for the info for now, i really need to get to bed ;)
01:07.05kirberichgood night
01:08.01NetRipperokay
01:08.08NetRippercheck git tomorrow
01:08.24NetRipperhttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm-2.6.25
01:08.32NetRippershould be able to commit it by then
01:08.32NetRipper;p
01:08.40kirberichi shall
01:08.55kirberichbye!
01:10.52NetRipperah finally got it - clone via ssh
01:11.14NetRipperi really miss a 'developer access' page at that mobile-linux project
01:11.15NetRipper:p
01:11.32NetRipperanyway this'll take all night.. so good night, i'll commit in the morning ;)
01:54.14joshjdevlhi netripper, does that source ur are goin to commit, do u know if it'll load on blackstone?
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02:42.03charon79mNeeding some help on a Titan and booting android from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341903.  Getting an error about a bad ext2 filesystem and failed to mount /data
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07:37.32NetRipperjoschkopf79, i don't know
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08:03.07goxboxlivehi BabelO
08:15.13NetRipperdcordes, i committed to the git, but it has that green 'htc-msm-2.6.25' thingy in the shortlog, is that a problem?
08:32.12dcordeshey morning NetRipper
08:32.26dcordesgreat. did you put it like in the pastebin?
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08:43.05BabelO_hi goxboxlive
08:50.54NetRipperdcordes, no, i gave it a twist so that there were only changes to mddi*
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10:21.32dcordesNetRipper did you check for problems on your raph800
10:22.22dcordess/8/1/
10:33.00dzohi dcordes
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10:37.56dcordesdzo hi
10:38.26dcordesdid they send you the kaiser?
10:39.27dzono, that guy never sent me the kaiser, I guess i'll have to ask somebody else.
10:40.01dzohave you made any progress , I haven't been keeping up with things.
10:41.00dcordesdzo if I would give you mine, for how long would you like to keep it in order to  do something effective?
10:41.00dzoI've got the camera working nicely now.
10:41.10dcordesnothing new from my side
10:42.28dcordesI have seen it in git. looks like you turned the vogue into the best (hacked) linux device
10:43.20dzowell I'm away for a few weeks in mid december so wouldn't even be able to start till after then and you are a long way away. Yes it's a pity voge isn't really that popular, darn cdma.
10:44.51dzoI am spending much too much of my time on this stuff, I'll have to do some real work some time.
10:44.56dcordesdzo ok. I don't see a probem about the distance.
10:45.38dcordesok nevermind then. I will try to ask barry for some advice about sd and try things
10:46.20dzoPerhaps getting some cash to buy one here would be easier, they go for about 300 euros i think.
10:46.53dcordesok we should reissue the fundraising thing then
10:48.06dcordeshow is vogue unpopular? don't they sel many in the us?
10:48.10dcordessell
10:49.22dzoit's just cdma is going out of fashion, its being phased out here in the next couple of years.
10:49.32BHSPitMonkeyI'd never heard of it outside the xda-devs scene
10:49.56dzoshame, since the data network is actually quite good.
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11:01.28NetRipperdcordes, yes, it still works on raph100
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11:18.23toer:)
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11:35.07dcordestoer hi
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12:35.50toerhi dcordes
12:37.35toerless than one hour left at work :) good times
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14:20.32dcordestoer I still have one to go
14:24.20NetRipper:p
14:24.34NetRippertoo bad work is a neccesity
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15:07.53dcordesdzo can you provide the xda users with a paypal address where tey can send money?
15:08.15dcordesthey. darn keyboard lag in wince
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15:46.27NetRipperi'm not having so much keyboard lag
15:46.58NetRipperonly when i pull out the hardware keyboard it's a bit sluggish for a few seconds
15:47.10NetRipper(in wince)
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15:48.05toerNetRipper: do you have problems while using the hw keyboard like these?: https://www.expansys.no/ft.aspx?k=115896
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16:16.25tmztNetRipper: apparently the recovery.git and pixelflinger in android should be usable to draw on the msmfb without using the gpu, do you know what would be needed to make a test graphics application or add msmfb support to SDL?
16:19.35goxboxliveBabelO: still there
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16:37.36BabelO_goxboxlive: yes
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16:40.45goxboxliveBabelO: do you have more that 4GB of ram on your build machine?
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16:42.06BabelO_goxboxlive: yes i have 8Gb  :)
16:42.57goxboxliveBabelO: :-) Do you use BigMEM kernel?
16:43.23BabelO_goxboxlive: no i m on 64Bit :) you have to use pae kernel on 32bit
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16:43.52goxboxliveok
16:43.54BabelO_hey kiozen :) email
16:44.04kiozenyes I saw
16:44.28BabelO_goxboxlive: else you can try to force mem=8192M on command line
16:44.55goxboxliveok, is bigmem kernel a bad choice to use?
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16:45.50BabelO_goxboxlive: don't know the uses of these kernel, i know that pae is for memeory over 4Gb limit that's all
16:46.01goxboxliveok
16:46.03goxboxlivethx
16:46.27BabelO_goxboxlive: if you use debian maybe it is called bigmem
16:46.43BabelO_just check in your kernel .config file for PAE mode
16:46.58goxboxliveyes i guess it is. I also notice in the kernel config that it has a option for mem over 4GB
16:47.10BabelO_goxboxlive: or zcat /proc/config.gz > config
16:47.15goxboxliveIf i dont use it it only shows up 3GB of ram, while i have 4
16:47.30BabelO_yes it show 3.5Gb of ram
16:47.39BabelO_same for 8Gb you see 7.6Gb
17:01.05tmztdcordes: hey, so on new msm6x00a usb0 (usbnet) works?, does this mean that devices without working mddi can be accessed if the initramfs has auto usb0 and sshd/telnetd?
17:01.29dcordestmzt, looks like it. raphael and diamond are msm7201a
17:01.47dcordesand that is a very good idea. we should ask the blackstone person to try so
17:01.50tmztdcordes: so x1 or blackstone or whatever can also be diagnosed?
17:02.05tmztdcordes: right
17:02.07dcordesI'm in the middle of finding the thread with the haret log he started
17:02.49tmztjoshhdevl ??
17:03.03dcordesthanks. btw, got any clue regarding pixelfinger library?
17:03.22tmztcheck android log for information from swetland
17:03.34tmzton rikers log
17:03.40dcordesgot the date?
17:03.42tmztone or two days ago
17:04.03tmztessentially, pixelflinger is the non-gpu version of surfaceflinger
17:04.25tmzteven bootanimation uses egl, but it uses libagl and pixelflinger for drawing on emulator
17:04.43tmztthe recovery.git only uses pixelflinger (??), does not require gpu
17:04.53tmztand is much simpler to understand that surfaceflinger
17:05.08dcordeshttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450841
17:05.35tmztalso, for direct access to video on g1 it should be possible to make a binder client and use surfaceflinger.  this means an X or vnc implementation could be done in c
17:06.09tmzt(that's is for android images I mean)
17:06.38dcordesyou mean that's what google does on the g1?
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17:08.16tmztfor vm processes to draw on the screen?
17:08.18dcordestmzt, you know how to configure /etc/network/interfaces in order to get usb ether with windows host?
17:08.31tmztwith usbnet or rndis?
17:08.33dcordesor better any host
17:08.45tmztthere is a zaurus driver for windows that is supposed to work for usbnet
17:08.47dcordesusb ether
17:09.07tmztrndis should be nativly supported but doesn't work on pxa, I don't know if it works on msma
17:09.23tmztoh, maybe autoipd?
17:09.49tmztI would rather uses static ip though, just use one that is unlikely to be used by another network on the machine
17:10.06tmztor, make it command line (default.txt) configurable
17:10.51tmztif you want a test image, I think the gizard from linwizard should work
17:11.14dcordesok I will get that
17:11.51tmztthere is also a zaurus driver for osx, but I can't remember what it's called
17:17.02dcordesiface usb0 inet static
17:17.02dcordesaddress 192.168.0.202
17:17.03dcordesnetmask 255.255.255.0
17:17.03dcordesnetwork 192.168.0.0
17:17.03dcordesgateway 192.168.0.200
17:17.03tmztdcordes: what forum link or you on?
17:17.13tmztalso, auto usb0
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17:17.46tmztjoshjdevl: hi
17:17.51joshjdevlhi tmzt
17:17.54dcordesthat's the standard angstrom config, tmzt
17:18.13tmztjoshjdevl: we are trying to get a bootable image for the msm-a devices that supports ssh or telnet
17:18.30dcordesjoshjdevl, speak of the devil..
17:18.51tmztjoshjdevl: we should then be able to gather the information about lcd needed to get it work (for somebody to get it to work I mean)
17:18.51joshjdevlok, kewl :)
17:19.15tmztNetRipper: you here?
17:25.00tmztdcordes: what forum link or you on?
17:25.18dcordestmzt, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2992014
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17:29.44dcordesjoshjdevl, you have a machine with linux on it so you can try the usb ethernet on black?
17:30.06joshjdevlyes, runnin ubuntu 8.10 currently
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17:30.24tmztNetRipper: does dmesg dump the relevant mddi information/registers?
17:30.50dcordesjoshjdevl, do you know how to edit the initrd?
17:31.38dcordesjoshjdevl, it's just a .cpio.gz (normal linux rootfilesystem, gzipped and cpio packed)
17:31.51joshjdevldcordes: i've done it a couple times, though if u have instructions that would help me make sure i dont mess stuff up
17:32.41tmzthttp://www.lucid-cake.net/osx_zaurus_usb/index_en.html
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17:33.38dcordesjoshjdevl, as root you cd to the dir with the rootfilesystem and run "find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../my-initrd.cpio.gz"
17:35.12dcordesand extracting is "gunzip initrd.cpio.gz; cpio -i < initrd.cpio"
17:36.08tmztzcat initrd.gpio.gz |cpio -i
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17:37.27dcordes^^ ok
17:38.09dcordesjoshjdevl, so you can edit /etc/network/interfaces and everything else required to bring up the usb ethernet on boot
17:39.29joshjdevldcordes: ok kewl
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17:43.28tmztdcordes: what are you starting with?
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17:44.40dcordestmzt, what do you mean?
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17:48.10tmztdcordes: I mean what distro/image are you starting with?
17:48.25dcordestmzt, on what machine?
17:48.38tmztfor joshjdevl
17:48.47dcordesangstrom console
17:48.52tmztoh, ok
17:49.08tmztso you are adding /etc/network/interface to bring up the network?
17:49.11dcordesbuilt for the raph. it has armv6-novfp
17:49.16tmztand telnet or dropbear?
17:49.42dcordesdropbear is already in there with init script
17:50.01dcordesit has the interfaces I pasted above
17:54.13tmztand auto usb0 ?
17:58.27dcordesno
17:58.42dcordeshttp://rafb.net/p/Mi9UxA41.html bbiab
17:58.50tmztauto usb0 is needed to bring up the interface on startup
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18:12.29tmzthttp://maemo.feelslikeburning.com/usbnet/linux.inf # here's one, but maybe only for 770 vid/pid
18:12.42tmztwe need the one for ipaq
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18:19.24NetRippertoer, im not having problems with my hardware keyboard in wince
18:19.51tmztNetRipper: does dmesg dump the relevant mddi information/registers?
18:20.01NetRippertmzt, no
18:20.26tmztwe would like to be able to gather that information with usbnet on msm7x00a devices
18:20.34NetRipperwe can
18:20.36NetRippersec
18:20.46NetRipperhttp://www.netripper.com/raphael/20081202_dmesg.txt
18:21.09NetRipperthat's a dump of ..
18:21.27NetRippermddi_info struct
18:21.38NetRipperbut it has pointers to other structs, which aren't included
18:21.48tmztwill this work even if the lcd is not supported yet?
18:22.09NetRippertmzt, what do you want to do
18:22.30tmzthave someone run this on X1, HD, Omnia, etc. and gather useful information for a port
18:22.39tmztor even the cdma versions of the supported devices
18:22.42NetRipperthey can already do that
18:22.50tmzthow?
18:22.51NetRipperwith druidu's boot console
18:22.55NetRipperit'll detect a panel id
18:23.16tmztsupport is not needed for new devices for boot console? it just works?
18:23.38NetRipperno it doesn't
18:23.42NetRipperyes support is needed
18:23.55NetRipperi think wince dump may suffice
18:23.57NetRipperbut erm
18:24.00NetRippernot sure where to look
18:24.00joshjdevldcordes: is the image i should try on my linux machine can be found here? http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/raphael-bootkit/
18:24.04NetRipperwe need a panel id like this:
18:24.05NetRippermddi_c_d263_0000
18:24.12NetRipperthat's one for raph100/diam100
18:25.02NetRipperhillsdale is the one that found the name for raph800, not sure how
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18:25.19NetRipperi guess he just logged the probe
18:26.13tmztok, but for devices where usbnet is supported but boot console is not, we are making a simple image that can be booted from haret (hopefully) and will allow dmesg dumps to be made from linux/windows/osx host
18:26.22tmztfor panel id
18:26.53tmztI am asking if this would work if the panel is not supported at all, or would more work have to be done in haret first?
18:26.58NetRipperim not sure how to find panel id
18:27.04NetRipperno haret is fine
18:27.31NetRipperyes it would work if the panel is not supported
18:28.05NetRipperwhen panel is not detected, the  gfx driver is not inited.. but the rest continues to boot
18:28.08NetRipperyou just don't see it
18:28.20tmztbut mddi is inited?
18:28.36NetRipperim not sure how far it gets
18:29.22tmztanother question, are the ioctl's the same as on g1 for msmfb now?
18:30.01NetRipperi dont know.. i'm not familiar with ioctl
18:30.06NetRipperyou should ask cr2, he might know
18:30.29NetRipperim still pretty new to this low level stuff ;)
18:31.16tmztI guess the question is is the current msmfb support based on trout
18:33.01NetRipperyes i think so
18:33.12NetRippertrout also uses msmfb by my knowledge
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18:51.40kaiscordesjoshjdevl tried the usb ether?
18:53.30joshjdevlkaiscordes: was goin to, the link is here correct? http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/raphael-bootkit/angstrom-20081127.cpio.gz
18:55.30SmallR2002yawns
18:55.32SmallR2002evening guys
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19:00.13kaiscordesjoshjdevl I think he only told you how to meet the req changes in the initrd
19:01.10joshjdevlkaiscordes: ok, thats what i'm thinkin to. do u know where i can download the image?
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19:03.50kaiscordesjoshjdevl check url I posted in the thread
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19:08.25joshjdevlkaiscordes: sry, which thread?
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21:44.42dcordes-kaisjoshjdevl did I miss something groundbreaking?
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