00:00.00 | mickey|ezx | for the stuff that doesn't work, we need to fix or add device-specific exceptions |
00:00.10 | dcordes | ok |
00:00.34 | dcordes | oh crap need to shutdown and charge |
00:02.17 | dcordes | I should try the battery driver |
00:02.28 | dcordes | booting.. |
00:04.41 | dcordes | mickey|ezx, does ogsmd/singleline have mechanisms to turn the modem on? |
00:07.47 | dcordes | I think I had the phone off in ce and it looks pretty alive now |
00:08.54 | mickey|ezx | singleline has no mechanism for that |
00:09.16 | mickey|ezx | modem turnon code goes into the modem.py for every modem |
00:10.13 | dcordes | ok. could you send a text message? |
00:13.06 | mickey|ezx | done |
00:13.22 | dcordes | ok works. |
00:13.44 | mickey|ezx | ~praise fso |
00:13.45 | apt | All hail fso! |
00:13.55 | dcordes | it prints the raw AT sms |
00:14.04 | dcordes | then some dbugs blabla incoming text message |
00:14.05 | dcordes | no errors. |
00:15.38 | mickey|ezx | wow |
00:15.41 | mickey|ezx | better than i thought |
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00:27.31 | dcordes | mickey|ezx, UnknownMethod: InitiateCall is not a valid method |
00:28.44 | mickey|ezx | try Initiate |
00:28.54 | mickey|ezx | and see docs.freesmartphone.org |
00:29.02 | mickey|ezx | everything is nicely written up there |
00:29.37 | dcordes | on the phone I typed initiate ^^ |
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00:32.01 | dcordes | mickey|ezx, does ' work instead of " ? I have no " mapped on my keyboard. |
00:32.31 | mickey|ezx | yes, in python you have three types of strings |
00:32.37 | mickey|ezx | four, actually |
00:32.38 | mickey|ezx | "foo" |
00:32.39 | mickey|ezx | 'foo' |
00:32.42 | mickey|ezx | """foo""" |
00:32.44 | mickey|ezx | '''foo''' |
00:32.47 | mickey|ezx | oh and |
00:32.49 | mickey|ezx | u"bar" |
00:32.52 | mickey|ezx | and r'raw' |
00:32.56 | mickey|ezx | if that counts |
00:33.04 | dcordes | ok |
00:35.59 | mickey|ezx | sleepy |
00:35.59 | mickey|ezx | g'night |
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00:41.04 | NetRipper | is there a convinient function in the kernel for dumping some memory to screen? |
00:41.20 | NetRipper | preferably in hex :p |
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00:48.06 | NetRipper | in case anyone with a raph800 is still on, please try this kernel http://www.netripper.com/raphael/zImage-raph800-01 and let me know if it results in the same behaviour as hillsdale's patch |
00:48.11 | NetRipper | (also posted this on forum) |
00:48.25 | NetRipper | if it works i'll check it in |
00:48.55 | NetRipper | me now sleep need;) |
00:48.58 | NetRipper | nite |
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01:09.38 | dcordes_ | ALoGeNo, what you doing with the poor uni? |
01:09.59 | ALoGeNo | ^^ hi dcordes_ |
01:10.16 | ALoGeNo | well i look to she and she looks to me.. |
01:10.23 | ALoGeNo | and both crying.. |
01:10.25 | ALoGeNo | Xd |
01:11.33 | ALoGeNo | im pray for someone get the unis kernel work dcordes_, i cant do nothing more :( |
01:11.53 | dcordes_ | :( that's sad. yea would be nice to see them running more recent kernels |
01:12.09 | ALoGeNo | yep |
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09:00.16 | toer | morning |
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09:30.15 | Bushman | ãã¯ãããããã¾ã dziendobry good morning hyvää huomenta guten tag æ©ä¸å¥½ bonjour добÑое ÑÑÑо |
09:31.37 | Abracadabra | hi |
09:31.48 | Abracadabra | what linux version can be put on htc |
09:32.14 | Bushman | HTC linux |
09:33.18 | Abracadabra | is there such a linux distrib called htc linux ? :/ |
09:35.58 | Magister7 | em... you can install whatever you want. hovewer, there is no guarantee that it will work :-D All depends on what device do you have. See xda wiki for info |
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09:38.01 | Abracadabra | I have a kaiser |
09:38.09 | Abracadabra | I have upgraded to WM 6.1 |
09:38.36 | Abracadabra | but ideally, I would like Linux on it, although, I am fairly new in the Linux world |
09:38.45 | Abracadabra | and I do use my phoen with tomtom |
09:39.45 | Magister2k7 | so, you can. but not all hardware works, for example, AFAIK there are still problems with SD driver |
09:47.54 | Abracadabra | ah |
09:48.07 | Abracadabra | so pbs using external memory.... |
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10:00.54 | padski | morning! |
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10:23.30 | Bushman | hmm... |
10:24.11 | Bushman | anyone knows how to triger the exterlan audion in BA? |
10:24.34 | Bushman | *external |
10:24.46 | Bushman | http://pinouts.ru/PDA/pda_blue_angel_pinout.shtml |
10:26.21 | BabelO_ | Bushman: should be done already :) already test it |
10:26.26 | BabelO_ | Bushman: use alsamixer |
10:26.29 | BabelO_ | to switch |
10:26.46 | BabelO_ | else code is in sound/arm you have blueangel.c somewhere in |
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10:31.08 | Bushman | erm.. what i mean is in standard windows |
10:31.24 | Bushman | there is a "sense" line on the connector |
10:31.40 | Bushman | should i pull it hi or low |
10:33.28 | Bushman | you see, i want to build an adaptor to my radio |
10:34.13 | Bushman | with audio in/out and PTT via RS232's DTR |
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10:34.30 | Bushman | so need to know how to enable it |
10:34.43 | Bushman | (and i hope it will work the same in linux later) |
10:35.06 | Bushman | BabelO_: btw, does linux check for external accesories yet? |
10:36.31 | BabelO_ | Bushman: no |
10:36.51 | BabelO_ | Bushman: but should be easy to do if you use ttySx |
10:36.58 | BabelO_ | it is already done by default |
10:37.11 | BabelO_ | try to look with stty command , and setserial |
10:37.30 | BabelO_ | Bushman: you are Hamradio too ? :) |
10:38.12 | Bushman | yea |
10:38.31 | Bushman | and i want to use pocketDigi for WM |
10:38.40 | Bushman | but i need external audio |
10:38.54 | Bushman | so i can conect it with just one plug |
10:39.45 | BabelO_ | Bushman: i have pocketdigi on my artemis under windows :) |
10:39.51 | BabelO_ | works like a charm |
10:39.59 | BabelO_ | and decoding works well |
10:40.03 | Bushman | yea |
10:40.05 | Bushman | i know |
10:40.27 | Bushman | but i'm not gonna hold the mobile next to the radio all the time :D |
10:40.37 | Bushman | i want cabel |
10:40.40 | BabelO_ | yes i understand your need |
10:40.59 | BabelO_ | btw i have a strange signal around 5.000Mhz on the night |
10:41.02 | Bushman | that's why i need to know how to triger car accesory |
10:41.38 | Bushman | 5M? hmm..... |
10:41.46 | Bushman | industrial noise? |
10:42.01 | Bushman | any factory around? |
10:42.06 | BabelO_ | yes strong signal, no bip bip bip and some modem like every minutes |
10:42.11 | BabelO_ | Bushman: like a clock signal |
10:42.25 | BabelO_ | 4.975 if i remember |
10:42.37 | Bushman | heh |
10:42.55 | Bushman | i have noise at my home exactly on my club's channel on FM |
10:43.04 | Bushman | at 145.325 |
10:43.19 | Bushman | channel up/down and it's quiet :P |
10:43.38 | BabelO_ | lol, not me, the icom i use works very well, happy with it |
10:43.59 | Bushman | so the squelch is almost always tuned hi so not everyone can call us out |
10:44.32 | Bushman | anyway, i want to connect my PPC to my portable alinco |
10:44.44 | Bushman | dj-180 |
10:44.57 | Bushman | but no audio on the connector :( |
10:45.14 | Bushman | WHY?!?!?! ....); |
10:45.17 | BabelO_ | no only switch audio is on jack only |
10:45.45 | Bushman | ok, but what about car set? |
10:45.59 | Bushman | there is audio R/L out and mic in |
10:46.10 | Bushman | just donno how to activate it |
10:46.10 | BabelO_ | only a switch 0 or 1 |
10:46.32 | BabelO_ | really , have to check but can't help you as i have nothing to test and no connector |
10:47.05 | Bushman | http://pinouts.ru/PDA/pda_blue_angel_pinout.shtml |
10:47.23 | Bushman | grounding or pulling it hi should work, ne? |
10:48.54 | BabelO_ | yes, maybe it switch that instead of the jack, if it is the case then actual code can work under linux too |
10:49.49 | Bushman | switch or not, HOW TO TRIGGER IT? |
10:49.51 | Bushman | :D |
10:50.11 | Bushman | i have no data about this "sense" lead |
10:50.19 | Bushman | nor "car on#" lead |
10:50.30 | Bushman | grounding both dowsn't help |
10:50.52 | BabelO_ | pull up 10kohm ? |
10:51.17 | Bushman | 18kohm didn;t help |
10:51.30 | BabelO_ | hmm |
10:51.41 | BabelO_ | did you check settings in system menu ? |
10:52.07 | Bushman | is there any? |
10:52.09 | Bushman | :/ |
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10:54.00 | Bushman | lemme check |
10:55.03 | BabelO_ | Bushman: what kind of antenna do you have for 80m / 40m band ? |
10:55.54 | Bushman | don't have that band at home |
10:55.59 | Bushman | only in the club |
10:56.26 | Bushman | and stuff overthere aren't made by me so i'm not sure |
10:56.40 | BabelO_ | Bushman: want to took Buddistick antenna, actually i have only long wire outside |
10:56.40 | Bushman | some longwires on top of the building :P |
10:57.56 | BabelO_ | http://f5iyj.com/spip.php?article57&id_document=98#documents_portfolio |
11:05.42 | Bushman | http://sp9zhr.nycz.bytom.pl/gallery/main.php?cmd=album&var1=Nasze+anteny/&var2=0 |
11:06.23 | Bushman | club's, DSD's and JBX's antenas |
11:06.43 | Bushman | mine are not shown but i just have 2 2m antenas |
11:07.58 | Bushman | btw, all the "grounds" in blue angel are connected |
11:08.20 | Bushman | so this "sense" is not for trigering external accesories |
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11:24.50 | padski | ALoGeNo, how goes it with acx ? |
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11:42.04 | tmzt | dcordes: have you tried Xorg on kaiser? |
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11:43.30 | dcordes | tmzt, the normal, non-kdrive one? |
11:43.37 | tmzt | yes |
11:44.01 | dcordes | at least I booted up the sumo debian image for universal and the xdm there didn't start |
11:44.06 | tmzt | now that you have singleline, it would be nice to be able to test some kind of ui, right ) |
11:44.08 | dcordes | I updated the kdrive bug |
11:44.18 | dcordes | http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4448 |
11:44.32 | tmzt | you have tried android/zygote 0.8, that works? |
11:45.39 | tmzt | well, I don't know if mickey|zzZZzz got the HTC additions yet, but still looks good |
11:45.41 | dcordes | yea android works fine on the kaiser fb |
11:45.52 | tmzt | we should find out why/how |
11:45.59 | dcordes | yes did you look at the oe bug? |
11:46.14 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt proposed we should look at "ioctls" there |
11:46.30 | tmzt | we need a test fbdev program then |
11:47.09 | dcordes | somebody else proposed adding up a lot of debug code to kdrive |
11:47.42 | tmzt | I think they are calling PAN or something, which then updates the screen |
11:48.09 | tmzt | sdl might be easier |
11:48.37 | tmzt | you can draw directly into fb, then call your own ioctl code instead of sdl's update |
11:48.37 | dcordes | barry remvoed the panning code from kaiser fb and with that fb code X doesn't work either |
11:48.41 | dcordes | Xfbdev that is |
11:49.05 | tmzt | I know, but the fake vsync/interrupt doesn't appear to work either |
11:49.43 | tmzt | it looks like Xorg will support touchscreen/absolute devices itself without tslib |
11:50.10 | tmzt | but that is not in there yet, it should be in a new xserver |
11:50.26 | dcordes | seems like Xorg is the choice then because we don't need the touchscreen driver patches |
11:51.18 | tmzt | I think with hal instead of xorg.conf is should be fast enough |
11:51.32 | tmzt | and might even be compatible with the xfbdev mode |
11:51.42 | dcordes | ok where can I get the code? |
11:51.45 | tmzt | (--enable-kdrive --disable-xorgconf) ?? |
11:51.50 | dcordes | ore a ready to try image |
11:52.10 | dcordes | so kdrive is all about lighter configuration? |
11:52.14 | tmzt | I was just reading that on phoronix/x devel list |
11:52.28 | tmzt | it's not ready yet I think |
11:52.34 | dcordes | pity |
11:53.12 | tmzt | for your touchscreen devices, it looks like e17/illume is going to be nice, witch phonekit etk integration |
11:53.19 | dcordes | btw somebody with a htc diamond here? |
11:53.39 | dcordes | tmzt, yes also because fso is beginning to work.. |
11:54.05 | tmzt | will it work on the n_htc devices too, or just singleline? |
11:54.11 | dcordes | did you read the first test results? |
11:54.24 | tmzt | just what was pasted here |
11:54.36 | dcordes | idk about how the non-msm htcs interface with the radio |
11:54.56 | kimhoon | i got a htc diamond |
11:54.58 | tmzt | serial port/usb I think in most cases, with n_htc in-kernel mux |
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11:56.47 | dcordes | kimhoon, can you try a kernel image? |
11:57.28 | kimhoon | yup |
11:57.34 | dcordes | k uploading |
11:59.18 | dcordes | kimhoon, http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/htcdiamond/zImage-2.6.25%2Bgitr6ec22f1385dcc2ca15d08361657a0b14821534b8-r1-htcdiamond.bin |
11:59.41 | dcordes | kimhoon, just check if everything is like in the other images you tried for the diam |
11:59.46 | dcordes | you have the gsm one? |
12:00.04 | kimhoon | got the gsm |
12:01.39 | Kalemas | Hi all, i'm trying get up usb connection magician<->host. For now i only getting dmesg: usb 3-2: New low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and adress 10; usb 3-2 : device descriptor read/64, error -71 |
12:01.50 | tmzt | dcordes: is this for video on msm: http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/external/opencore.git;a=blob;f=README;h=c75da285f27b |
12:02.17 | tmzt | Kalemas: did you plug in the usb connection before running haret? |
12:03.22 | dcordes | tmzt, at a first glance it sounds like an implementation of the dsp niceness |
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12:03.44 | padski | ALoGeNoFF, hi |
12:04.02 | Kalemas | tmzt: yes i tried both with plugged and plug/unplug during linux started |
12:04.12 | dcordes | or not |
12:04.24 | tmzt | Kalemas: what image are you using? |
12:06.46 | Kalemas | tmzt: i am using, known with usb-working (built by exco), gpe-image. my own images tell also that. |
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12:07.14 | tmzt | Kalemas: what does magician report on screen when you plug/unplug usb? |
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12:09.36 | kimhoon | dcordes where can i find the rest of the files because i used the linload.exe |
12:10.27 | dcordes | haret builds go here http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ pick up the latest one |
12:11.00 | dcordes | http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/raph_20081029-00_cleanups/ use the default.txt from there |
12:11.23 | kimhoon | thanks |
12:17.05 | tmzt | dcordes: on your android kernels (you tested) did you have the gpu and everything enabled? |
12:17.36 | tmzt | wait, you only had 0.8 working |
12:17.45 | tmzt | qemu doesn't use gpu code I think |
12:19.47 | tmzt | it looks like android 1.0 fails to start if fbcon is compiled in |
12:20.34 | dcordes | tmzt, yea only 0.8 |
12:20.51 | dcordes | tmzt, how do you know the fbcon thing? |
12:20.53 | kimhoon | dcordes it loads to the red eye but not futher it reset himself en loads up the red eye agian sorry me english is not very good |
12:20.56 | tmzt | it checks for /sys/calss/graphics/fbcon |
12:21.18 | dcordes | kimhoon, red eye? which initrd do you use? |
12:21.23 | tmzt | kimhoon: you are testing android 0.8 or 1.0 on diam? |
12:21.37 | kimhoon | android 0.8 |
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12:23.57 | kimhoon | i used the androind.bin and zimage |
12:24.00 | dcordes | kimhoon, can you test the initrd you used to boot with the linload? |
12:24.36 | Kalemas | tmzt: UNPLUG: egpio clear: reg 2 = 0x001; PLUG: udc: USB reset; udc USB reset; egpio set: reg 2 = 0x021; udc USB reset; ds2760-battery ds2760-battery.0: not enought power to charge |
12:25.10 | kimhoon | yes i can |
12:25.18 | kimhoon | moment please |
12:38.04 | kimhoon | i see no differents |
12:38.10 | kimhoon | om testing some more |
12:38.58 | dcordes | kimhoon, so zImage-2.6.25%2Bgitr6ec22f1385dcc2ca15d08361657a0b14821534b8-r1-htcdiamond.bin works? |
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12:45.09 | tmzt | Kalemas: is the usb0 on the phone being brought up? |
12:45.21 | tmzt | Kalemas: do you see any messages about gadget? |
12:46.11 | tmzt | dcordes: the sim build of android 1.0 might work if fbcon was disabled in .config |
12:46.44 | tmzt | dcordes: but I'm trying to find out how it can work with the changes to msm_fb without egl (GLES) and gpu support |
12:46.49 | dcordes | tmzt, ok I can make a build w/o fbcon |
12:48.53 | kimhoon | no sorry wrong files i see the red dot but i stay on the red dot |
12:49.36 | dcordes | kimhoon, hm can you boot the console initrd that has the touchscreen testing app? |
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12:53.13 | kimhoon | where can i find that initrd |
12:54.07 | dcordes | idk. I mean this http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/pics/20081027_touchscreen_keyboard3.jpg |
12:54.37 | dcordes | NetRipper, where can we get it? |
12:54.49 | tmzt | dcordes: you mean the in kernel touchscreen (osk) support? |
12:57.03 | dcordes | tmzt, no, I mean the initrd where you can test these |
12:57.13 | Kalemas | tmzt: dmesg | grep usb; usb0: Ethernet Gadget version : May Day 2005; usb0: using pxa27x_udc. OUT ep2out-bulk IN eplin-bulk STATUS ep3in-intr; usb0: MAC a2:3c:20:00:30:dd; usb0: HOST MAC b6:82:b4:1d:d5:47; usb0: RNDIS ready; usbcore: registred new interface driver usbfs; usbcore: registred new interface driver hub; usbcore: registred new device driver usb; usbcore: registred interface driver hci_usb; |
12:57.21 | tmzt | ok, wasn't sure from that picture (link) |
12:57.59 | tmzt | Kalemas: that looks like mine (not magician), don't know what is wrong |
12:58.12 | tmzt | Kalemas: if you can log in can you see if the usb0 if up? |
12:58.46 | tmzt | wait, RNDIS doesn't work, which kernel is that? you said it's known to work? |
12:58.55 | Kalemas | tmzt: ps -A | grep usb; ksuspend_usb |
12:59.34 | tmzt | that should be CDC not RNDIS, RNDIS doesn't work udc in linux |
13:00.11 | tmzt | when you plug/unplug you don't get any messages about epX bulk? |
13:01.19 | Kalemas | tmzt: lsmod | grep usb; hci_usb 12892 0; bluetooth 49344 7 bnep.rfcomm.hidp.l2cap.hci_usb; usbcore 104012 1 hci_usb |
13:02.01 | tmzt | that's all for bluetooth, nothing to do with udc |
13:02.09 | tmzt | (except usbcore) |
13:02.21 | tmzt | but that is built in I think |
13:02.43 | tmzt | have you tried any other magician zImages? |
13:02.49 | Kalemas | tmzt: when i plug|unplug i got only dmesg: New low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and adress 10; usb 3-2 : device descriptor read/64, error -71;usb 3-2 : device descriptor read/64, error -71 TWICE |
13:03.07 | tmzt | I mean on magician, but I think you already pasted that |
13:03.32 | NetRipper | dcordes, kimhoon, which initrd are you looking for? the android one that pauses before loading android? or another one? |
13:03.34 | tmzt | do you have a shell on there (keyboard working)? |
13:04.02 | tmzt | NetRipper: are you using android 0.8 or 1.0, and are you using sim or trout build? |
13:04.08 | NetRipper | 0.8 |
13:04.12 | Kalemas | tmzt: dmesg | grep epX; no output |
13:04.14 | NetRipper | tmzt, sim? |
13:04.34 | tmzt | NetRipper: simulator, it looks like 1.0 sim build might work if fbcon is disabled in .config |
13:04.37 | NetRipper | tmzt, stole android bin from kaiser |
13:04.47 | tmzt | Kalemas: grep ep1 and grep ep2 |
13:04.57 | tmzt | also, ifconfig usb0 |
13:05.22 | tmzt | if you are using rndis, you need rndis_host in the kernel and disable cdc-acm somehow |
13:05.29 | tmzt | or disable usbnet |
13:06.20 | NetRipper | dcordes, kimhoon, the android initrd that pauses (to allow calibration) can be found here: http://netripper.babyburner.dk/raphael/raph_20081105-01_android_v0.8_touchscreen_fix/ |
13:06.21 | tmzt | NetRipper: I'm trying to figure out the android native code for graphics |
13:06.27 | Kalemas | tmzt: yes, i pasted ep1 ep2 already |
13:06.45 | tmzt | Kalemas: ok, ifconfig usb0 on magician |
13:07.16 | NetRipper | tmzt, oh, doesn't android simply use the framebuffer driver? |
13:07.57 | NetRipper | 0.8 does |
13:08.03 | tmzt | NetRipper: it looks like it uses egl (GLES) on g1, and maybe fb on sim |
13:08.11 | tmzt | 0.8 is for sim (qemu) |
13:08.29 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=libs/surfaceflinger/RFB |
13:08.40 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=blob;f=libs/surfaceflinger/ |
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13:10.10 | tmzt | it looks like even the boot animation uses EGL now, it would be nice to have that working on other msm's |
13:10.32 | tmzt | at least A |
13:10.37 | dcordes | tmzt, getting 404 on those links |
13:10.49 | tmzt | dcordes: sorry, can't copy the whole thing |
13:11.20 | tmzt | just search git.android.kernel.org for platform/frameworks/base.git |
13:11.34 | tmzt | then go to libs/surfaceflinger it's all .cpp |
13:11.58 | dcordes | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/frameworks/base.git;a=tree;f=libs/surfaceflinger;h=686841e18fcbb5ec6b07b9bf84f8555db92e546f;hb=master ? |
13:12.19 | tmzt | yes |
13:12.27 | Kalemas | tmzt: ifconfig usb0; unknown command ifconfig; $PATH; /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin; /sbin/ifconfig usb0 - shows usb0, what you need from there, all paste everything? |
13:12.49 | tmzt | funny, I can copy from irssi in gnome-terminal but not links2 urls |
13:13.01 | Kalemas | tmzt: or paste everything? |
13:13.02 | tmzt | Kalemas: is it UP RUNNING and what is the ip address? |
13:13.22 | tmzt | and is the MAC non-zero |
13:13.54 | NetRipper | tmzt, couldn't that maybe just be a configuration setting? |
13:13.55 | dcordes | tmzt, so what is that surfaceflinger thing about?= |
13:14.15 | tmzt | NetRipper: sorry? |
13:14.22 | NetRipper | tmzt, gles vs fb |
13:15.24 | Kalemas | tmzt: /sbin/ifconfig - show only lo; ifconfig usb0 - does not show ip adress only MAC |
13:15.24 | tmzt | surfaceflinger is apparently the hardware graphics backend for the java code, it takes a raw surface (android java canvas/drawable?) and draws to one or the other buffer |
13:15.38 | tmzt | Kalemas: and not UP RUNNING? |
13:15.53 | tmzt | Kalemas: try /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.4.2 |
13:16.03 | tmzt | Kalemas: the, on pc, ifconfig usb0 192.168.4.1 |
13:16.10 | tmzt | Kalemas: then |
13:16.15 | tmzt | Kalemas: then you should be able to ping |
13:17.14 | tmzt | so there is a front and back buffer, which is what was being swapped |
13:17.25 | tmzt | but now it appears that it is using gles to do it |
13:17.36 | tmzt | can't find any ioctl's except for vt in that code |
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13:25.31 | Kalemas | tmzt: host: usb0 error while getting interface flags No such device |
13:26.23 | tmzt | on which? |
13:27.14 | Kalemas | tmzt: it is to me? |
13:27.28 | tmzt | yes |
13:27.43 | Kalemas | tmzt: it is on host |
13:27.54 | tmzt | ok, but the command worked on magician? |
13:28.12 | tmzt | then do lsusb on the host and see if IPAQ or something is in there |
13:28.13 | Kalemas | tmzt: yes ip adress is appeared... |
13:28.26 | tmzt | but you should at least not get the error -71 |
13:28.32 | tmzt | when you plug in the magician |
13:30.06 | tmzt | Kalemas: oh, I see you said host:, didn't see that before |
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13:31.42 | Kalemas | tmzt: lsusb - there is no new divices, now host does not react on plug|unplug, i need reboot? |
13:31.54 | Kalemas | tmzt device? |
13:32.33 | tmzt | no |
13:32.52 | tmzt | you should not need to reboot either |
13:33.14 | tmzt | what is in dmesg |tail on host? |
13:34.07 | Kalemas | tmzt there is no new messages... the last i see are usb 3-2 : device descriptor read/64, error -71, but it is old... |
13:34.19 | kimhoon | dcordes i used the files from netripper with your Zimage but its stays on the red dot agian but the touchscreen works :) |
13:36.46 | tmzt | Kalemas: can you dmesg -c (clears you dmesg in ram) and unplug/plug |
13:39.01 | NetRipper | kimhoon, what do you mean "stays on the red dot"? |
13:39.56 | tmzt | android doesn't start? |
13:40.33 | NetRipper | kimhoon, ah, you mean the "eye" animation from android booting? |
13:40.44 | kimhoon | yup |
13:40.45 | kimhoon | sorry |
13:40.53 | NetRipper | kimhoon, make sure you have mem=96M in your default.txt on the set INITRD line |
13:40.57 | NetRipper | uh |
13:40.58 | NetRipper | set CMDLINE line |
13:41.03 | kimhoon | its loops over and over again |
13:41.13 | NetRipper | 64M is not sufficient |
13:42.01 | kimhoon | ok |
13:42.14 | kimhoon | NetRipper are you from holland |
13:43.37 | kimhoon | it boots :) |
13:43.40 | Kalemas | tmzt ok, no output. |
13:45.31 | kimhoon | dcordes it works but i get this warnig application not responding -- the applaction com.google.androind.googleapps is not respondig -- can force close ore wait |
13:45.51 | tmzt | ok, magician is on, usb0 is UP RUNNING, you unplug and replug the usb and then dmesg on host, and there is nothing printed? |
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13:47.22 | Kalemas | tmzt it happens, some first times it show messages but then - not |
13:47.44 | Kalemas | tmzt reboot unpluged? |
13:47.57 | tmzt | reboot magician? |
13:48.11 | tmzt | you still want to boot with it plugged in |
13:48.14 | dcordes | kimhoon, ok sounds not kernel related. |
13:48.56 | Kalemas | tmzt reboot pluged? |
13:49.06 | tmzt | yes |
13:49.20 | tmzt | then, unplug |
13:49.29 | tmzt | /sbin/ifconfig usb0 192.168.4.2 |
13:49.34 | tmzt | then, plug in |
13:49.42 | tmzt | check dmesg and lsusb then |
13:49.57 | Kalemas | tmzt ok |
13:51.31 | dcordes | NetRipper, have you found a solution for raph800 ? |
13:51.38 | tmzt | dcordes: you said singleline modem works on gta03, who has that other than OM people? |
13:52.23 | dcordes | om people :) it is in reply to gillaume who tested usb eval. board of gta03 radio (in case I udnerstaood him right) |
13:52.58 | tmzt | nice, they are supposed to be using an all-in-one gprs/edge modem card? |
13:53.16 | Kalemas | tmzt maybe something wrong with haret? |
13:53.32 | tmzt | Kalemas: not likely, what happened? |
13:55.59 | kimhoon | dcordes is there something further i must test |
13:56.16 | dcordes | kimhoon, no thanks a lot |
13:56.36 | tmzt | dcordes: what did you change that made android work that far? |
13:57.46 | dcordes | tmzt, I don't know much about the gta03 radio. you mean on kimhoon's diamond? he obviously changed mem |
13:57.56 | dcordes | the 0.8 ramdisk is from dzo. |
13:58.14 | tmzt | oh, ok |
13:59.16 | dcordes | I will try an 1.0 w/o fbcon on my kaiser later |
14:02.49 | toer | :) |
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14:05.22 | kimhoon | funny if i use the android.bin the touchscreen is not correct but if i call myself there comes een popup with answer en voicemail :)but can't answer :( |
14:06.55 | NetRipper | kimhoon, yes i am from the netherlands |
14:07.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, i need someone to test a kernel |
14:07.17 | NetRipper | dcordes, i posted it on forum, but nobody has responded to it yet |
14:07.34 | NetRipper | 01:48:06 < NetRipper> in case anyone with a raph800 is still on, please try this kernel http://www.netripper.com/raphael/zImage-raph800-01 and let me know if it results in the same behaviour as hillsdale's patch |
14:07.38 | NetRipper | 01:48:11 < NetRipper> (also posted this on forum) |
14:07.40 | NetRipper | 01:48:25 < NetRipper> if it works i'll check it in |
14:08.44 | NetRipper | at work, so bbl ;) |
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14:17.05 | kimhoon | that popup not seen that before but i can answare the incoming call but no sound or mic working.. |
14:24.33 | tmzt | dcordes: have we looked at MSMDV_BLIT? |
14:24.49 | tmzt | dcordes: have we looked at MSMFB_BLIT ioctl? |
14:25.38 | tmzt | it looks like it takes a list of regions to update, maybe even after they are written to to vram they still have to be bitted? |
14:26.03 | tmzt | we know writting (cat) to the fb works, but maybe mmap access requires that? |
14:26.52 | tmzt | include/linux/msm_mdp.h in the android-msm tree has the struct needed |
14:27.24 | tmzt | it also appears that mdp supports hw rotation, which might be useful |
14:27.51 | tmzt | it just don't know if it is rotation of each region or surface or the whole display |
14:30.20 | dcordes | tmzt, ok somebody who understands the blit thing better than me must try |
14:30.26 | dcordes | hw rotate would be nice also |
14:30.53 | dcordes | bb in a few hours |
14:30.55 | tmzt | I asked romainguy, swetland must be busy |
14:31.15 | dcordes | what about SanMehat ? |
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14:33.43 | cipher_ | hi all |
14:34.04 | cipher_ | i am installing android on my O2 atom life which has xscale atm processor |
14:34.19 | cipher_ | i have already successfully cross compiled the source for my arm processor |
14:34.29 | cipher_ | but there is no documentation on what to do next |
14:35.00 | tmzt | you need to extract the yaffs2 or somehow mount it loopback from an initramfs |
14:35.02 | cipher_ | is there a software to flash the ROM with the system.img,ramdisk.img,system-qemu.img ? |
14:35.17 | cipher_ | yaffs2? |
14:35.32 | tmzt | well, which HTC device is that? but they don't really support flashing the rom on the devices yet |
14:36.11 | cipher_ | reading it |
14:36.24 | cipher_ | it's an o2 atom life |
14:37.08 | cipher_ | if it doesn't support the chipset i can recompile it i hope |
14:37.10 | tmzt | where is it on wiki.xda-developers.com ? |
14:38.23 | cipher_ | yeah |
14:38.33 | cipher_ | i found this channel from xda-developers.com |
14:38.48 | tmzt | ok, which HTC name device is it from that wiki page? |
14:39.09 | Bushman | damn... |
14:39.21 | Bushman | can't force my BA to use external mic |
14:39.52 | tmzt | BabelO_ said it should work in linux with aSoC and alsamixer |
14:40.34 | tmzt | did you get a working initramfs then? I just missed that you had the zImage |
14:42.37 | Kalemas | tmzt: there is no output at all, after unplug and ifconfig, i will also try on other host. Very very thank you for helping. |
14:43.20 | tmzt | Kalemas: you got an error message that says can't enumerate basically, so it's less working now that before |
14:45.58 | Kalemas | tmzt yes. also, need i modprobe usbnet on the host side? |
14:46.27 | cipher_ | there's no zImage in my android compile |
14:46.53 | tmzt | cipher_: sorry, that was to Bushman |
14:47.05 | Bushman | ? |
14:47.13 | cipher_ | kb |
14:47.16 | cipher_ | oh |
14:47.21 | tmzt | BabelO_ said it should work in linux with aSoC and alsamixer |
14:47.35 | tmzt | did you get a working initramfs then? I just missed that you had the zImage |
14:47.46 | Bushman | me? |
14:47.49 | tmzt | yes |
14:48.02 | Bushman | ok, yes, i do have the zImage compiled |
14:48.08 | Bushman | now what's your question? |
14:48.09 | Bushman | :P |
14:48.50 | tmzt | Kalemas: whether usbnet is loaded doesn't affect if it can enumerate |
14:49.03 | tmzt | Bushman: I mean did you find a root filesystem to boot with haret? |
14:49.05 | Bushman | (booting linux in case you want me to check anything on it) |
14:49.12 | Bushman | oh |
14:49.31 | Bushman | well, i used the one from.... |
14:50.04 | tmzt | I mean BabelO_ said you should be able to select audio outputs/inputs with alsamixer, it doesn't care about the detect pins if I understood right |
14:50.27 | Bushman | yes, he did said that |
14:50.30 | Bushman | and |
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14:50.34 | Bushman | yes it will work |
14:50.37 | Bushman | but |
14:50.39 | cipher_ | tmzt: after running yaffs2 and extracting the files... are there any other steps to boot the android/ |
14:50.45 | Bushman | i want to do it in windows -_-' |
14:51.10 | Bushman | before i'll get a linux version of pocketDigi there will be months or even years |
14:51.12 | cipher_ | i wish there was documentation for it.. google is so... |
14:51.30 | cipher_ | stingy |
14:51.35 | tmzt | what exactly is pocketDigi? just a half-duplex repeater? |
14:52.09 | Bushman | tmzt: so thanks for asking but it won't help |
14:52.11 | Bushman | well |
14:52.14 | Bushman | it's a... |
14:52.27 | tmzt | cipher_: documentation for what? |
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14:52.45 | cipher_ | comping and bootstrapping any phone out there |
14:52.50 | Bushman | http://www.n0hr.com/PocketDigi/PocketDigi_intro.htm |
14:52.50 | cipher_ | compiling |
14:52.53 | cipher_ | compiling works fine |
14:52.57 | tmzt | cipher_: android builds those two images which are probably yaffs2 images (if you run file they show up as Alpha something) |
14:52.58 | cipher_ | only getting it to boot |
14:53.16 | cipher_ | yeah. Alpha VMS |
14:54.44 | tmzt | ok, we have been trying to get android1.0 to boot and have not been able to though it might be working on freerunner (openmoko) |
14:55.04 | tmzt | cipher_: but it would be helpful to know the codename of your device |
14:55.32 | tmzt | cipher_: either the four letters under the battery or on that wiki |
14:55.35 | cipher_ | i know it's i2 atom life |
14:55.43 | cipher_ | xscale proc |
14:55.49 | cipher_ | 64mb ram |
14:55.53 | cipher_ | 1gb rom |
14:56.22 | tmzt | does it look like this one: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Atom |
14:57.13 | cipher_ | YUP! |
14:59.00 | cipher_ | i'm certain that's the one |
14:59.13 | tmzt | cipher_: well, I don't see any linux support for it |
14:59.32 | tmzt | cipher_: it has cpld and maybe pxafb based so it could be done I guess |
14:59.54 | tmzt | cipher_: did you find anything? |
15:00.23 | cipher_ | tmzt: i found out that the processor is xscale based off ARM |
15:00.48 | cipher_ | but i doubt the other devices in it like GSM,3G will work |
15:00.54 | cipher_ | but it's worth a try |
15:01.04 | cipher_ | i've never used the phone for nearly a year |
15:01.15 | tmzt | cipher_: well, you would need to build a kernel for it then |
15:01.36 | tmzt | cipher_: I would start with a recent kernel and magician.c and make one for the htcatom |
15:02.29 | cipher_ | a vanilla kernel? |
15:03.02 | tmzt | yeah, but you need to make a machine file for it to work |
15:03.16 | tmzt | I'm looking in the forums to see if any work has been done |
15:03.42 | cipher_ | oh.. looks like i'm out of luck |
15:04.00 | cipher_ | lol.. took me 5 hours to cross compile the android |
15:06.26 | tmzt | cipher_: you can try booting a kernel for a similar device with that devices MTYPE in default.txt |
15:07.19 | cipher_ | i'll try that tmzt |
15:07.25 | cipher_ | you're been a lot of help |
15:07.27 | cipher_ | thanks |
15:08.25 | tmzt | cipher_: I don't see anything that suggests it uses ATI or other video, so try magician zImage |
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15:08.57 | cipher_ | magician zImage? |
15:12.29 | cipher_ | oh i get what you mean. ;) |
15:13.28 | tmzt | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/ |
15:13.39 | tmzt | this should be enough, just the .exe to test |
15:19.52 | cipher_ | so this application will flash with the system.img? |
15:20.09 | cipher_ | Openmoko-Magician-Linux.exe: MS Windows PE 32-bit executable not relocatable |
15:26.53 | tmzt | cipher_: no, copy that to your atom/sd card and run it |
15:27.16 | tmzt | cipher_: but, if you have WM3 (??) it will erase all of your data |
15:27.20 | tmzt | ci |
15:27.31 | tmzt | cipher_: I mean less than WM5 |
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15:32.52 | padski | I'm not getting any success with gprs on my uni :-( |
15:47.03 | cipher_ | sorry was busy |
15:47.24 | cipher_ | i have WM6 |
15:47.37 | cipher_ | i will copy it to the SDCARD and erase it |
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15:48.02 | cipher_ | then select the ramdisk.img and system.img to flash it in? |
15:49.08 | cipher_ | theoratically it should work as intel xscale is based off ARM processor |
15:49.11 | tmzt | cipher_: this is about getting linux to boot at all, those files are for android which needs the linux kernel to work first |
15:49.37 | cipher_ | oh i see |
15:50.35 | tmzt | if that exe works at all (prints messages on the screen) that will be tells us that the hardware is similar enough to port magigican.c and get the keyboard, touchscreen, and hopefully sd card (unless it's on asic3) working |
15:51.13 | cipher_ | oh. |
15:51.16 | tmzt | particularly if the keys work at all but are just the wrong keymap, then we know it's a pxa matrix keyboard |
15:51.16 | cipher_ | nowi get it |
15:54.18 | cipher_ | so now i'm going to test whether the hardware works on linux |
15:54.26 | cipher_ | then get android on it....? |
15:55.01 | tmzt | yes |
15:55.52 | cipher_ | oh |
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16:01.11 | parmaster | which phone? |
16:01.43 | tmzt | atom |
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16:06.42 | cipher_ | seems like i'm out of luck |
16:07.06 | cipher_ | first i need the openmoko exe, run it, boot linux |
16:07.10 | cipher_ | then run android |
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16:09.52 | tmzt | cipher_: yes, we just need to know what that .exe does |
16:10.21 | tmzt | cipher_: if your windows is flash based it should not erase anything on the flash memory or the card, it only runs from ram |
16:12.23 | cipher_ | the WM6 runs from ROM |
16:12.41 | cipher_ | :D |
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16:12.45 | cipher_ | but thanks man |
16:15.50 | parmaster | you'll lose your settings and address book stuff contacts etc. |
16:18.29 | parmaster | how did the Vogue folks get CDMA calling working? |
16:18.37 | tmzt | parmaster: why? |
16:18.53 | parmaster | just curious |
16:19.09 | tmzt | parmaster: either with android or now with singleline support in fso |
16:19.23 | tmzt | parmaster: I mean why would he lose everything? |
16:19.27 | parmaster | ah, it must've been through android |
16:19.43 | tmzt | parmaster: it's not ce3 based I think |
16:19.57 | parmaster | oh, i thought you were having him boot angstrom? |
16:20.12 | tmzt | parmaster: does harrier use n_htc mux? |
16:20.36 | parmaster | i'm not sure i have to get back to looking at it |
16:20.38 | tmzt | parmaster: yes, that's why I asked why you said he would lose settings |
16:20.52 | parmaster | oh, he's ruinning wm6 nevermind :) |
16:20.53 | tmzt | parmaster: raph800 support is coming |
16:20.58 | parmaster | cool |
16:21.23 | parmaster | i'll pick up a raph800 when that all gets together ;) |
16:21.44 | tmzt | I hope the dma issues are solved if there are any on 6500a |
16:22.09 | parmaster | i broke the screen on my BA |
16:22.19 | parmaster | when i was in manila, philippines |
16:22.28 | parmaster | so i just ordered another from ebay |
16:22.33 | parmaster | like 89 bux |
16:22.35 | parmaster | lol |
16:23.14 | parmaster | i'll have to carrier unlock it, no big deal |
16:24.05 | parmaster | i can trade up my current plan to get a raph800 for $250 so i'm hoping that support comes through for it |
16:24.34 | tmzt | you have sprint or verizon? |
16:24.40 | parmaster | sprint |
16:25.01 | tmzt | ah, it's coming to verizon too someday. either way I think it will be at bestbuy |
16:25.07 | tmzt | they had titan for like 50 |
16:25.18 | parmaster | but i also have at&t for my work phone |
16:25.34 | parmaster | still in the situation of do i want a raph100 or raph800 |
16:25.54 | tmzt | maybe evdo or hspda |
16:26.20 | parmaster | yeah i'd keep my evdo |
16:26.40 | parmaster | i forgot to ask cr2 about the video out cable on the raph |
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16:27.14 | parmaster | just want to know if the signal is selectable from ntsc to pal or is forced to one of them only. |
16:27.21 | dcordes_ | mickeyl: hey I updated the machines, outsourced the arch things to a new tunefile. can you review? http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4878 |
16:28.22 | tmzt | parmaster: does it support yuv? |
16:28.29 | tmzt | (YbrCr) |
16:29.11 | parmaster | no idea anything about video on the raph |
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16:31.51 | parmaster | how are things going with the kovsky? |
16:32.24 | dcordes_ | parmaster: afaik raphael kernel boots and fb works |
16:32.58 | mickeyl | dcordes: will do when i have time, thanks |
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16:34.39 | parmaster | tmzt: is your kovsky running android? |
16:35.37 | tmzt | parmaster: what? |
16:35.45 | parmaster | the Q |
16:36.04 | tmzt | haven't tried android yet, running debian armel |
16:36.16 | parmaster | oops kovsky is x2 duh |
16:36.20 | parmaster | err x1 |
16:36.35 | tmzt | right |
16:37.13 | tmzt | been very happy with the q now, just need to find the multiplexing protocol to get voice to work |
16:37.55 | tmzt | it's cdma one on verizon so I have evdo with ppp |
16:38.23 | tmzt | now I am waiting for an 8g card to really do some work with it |
16:38.39 | tmzt | as debian has already filled the 512mb partition on the 1g card |
16:40.08 | parmaster | that processor is what on the Q? |
16:40.28 | tmzt | pxa27x at 416mhz |
16:40.35 | tmzt | 64mb ram |
16:40.50 | parmaster | ahhh ok ok |
16:41.15 | tmzt | I think same as apache |
16:41.16 | parmaster | did you talk with the guys in openezx about it? they may be able to help with the voice |
16:41.26 | tmzt | yes, I am working on it there |
16:41.30 | parmaster | cool |
16:41.38 | tmzt | waiting for some upstream stuff to update my branch |
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16:56.21 | dcordes | mickey|away, ok thanks |
16:59.59 | parmaster | tmzt: regarding the harrier using n_htc mux, if its working on it i can't address the modem directly as a device.. not in the same way i can on the BA |
17:00.30 | tmzt | what device do you use minicom/ppp on? |
17:00.32 | parmaster | i need to look further to see if there is something else interfering with it |
17:00.39 | parmaster | BA |
17:00.49 | parmaster | the boardid 0x6 |
17:00.54 | parmaster | harrier is the boardid 0x4 |
17:00.56 | tmzt | if mean what /dev device on harrier |
17:01.18 | parmaster | ttyS0 on the BA |
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17:01.43 | parmaster | the same does not give me the modem on the 0x4 board |
17:01.47 | parmaster | (harrier) |
17:01.56 | tmzt | could it be on usb host? |
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17:02.24 | tmzt | it's msm6500 I think, but could be older chip |
17:02.25 | parmaster | i have no idea where the cdma modem would be at if its not at ttyS0 |
17:02.51 | tmzt | msm doesn't really use uart because of problems with it, the same was true of most of the cdma phones |
17:03.15 | parmaster | i want to look more closely to make sure there isn't anything obvious interfering |
17:03.38 | parmaster | but as far as working out of the box i'd have to tell cr2 its not |
17:03.41 | tmzt | BA is gsm calypso? |
17:03.50 | tmzt | which one? |
17:03.57 | parmaster | yeah i think its calypso |
17:04.23 | tmzt | does n_htc give you other devices if it's loaded? |
17:05.37 | parmaster | no it simply lets you properly address what you've got |
17:05.42 | parmaster | afaik |
17:05.59 | parmaster | the communications portion |
17:06.22 | tmzt | I think it's a line discipline on ttyS0, so if it's loaded tty access won't work |
17:06.30 | tmzt | at least, I think that's what you're saying |
17:07.59 | parmaster | Xcv: [WWW]Silicon Laboratories Si4205-BM Amp: [WWW]RF Micro Devices RF3140) |
17:08.09 | parmaster | thats the gsm set on the BA |
17:08.29 | tmzt | more worried about the baseband chip than the rf stuff |
17:08.39 | parmaster | not sure if calypso addresses that |
17:08.47 | parmaster | that might be it |
17:09.27 | parmaster | no, i'm not saying its a line discipline.. i'm saying in order to communicate with the modem at all n_htc is required |
17:09.43 | parmaster | its part of a low level communication driver set |
17:10.10 | parmaster | anyway i had BA not working without n_htc |
17:10.13 | dcordes | bbl |
17:10.15 | tmzt | those chips don't affect this part though, they are very low level |
17:10.39 | parmaster | then of course working with n_htc which is required |
17:11.20 | parmaster | then i try on boardid4 (the harrier) and get nothing from ttyS0 on it |
17:11.57 | parmaster | i don't remember what the baseband is |
17:13.42 | tmzt | is it n_htc or n_erhtc? |
17:13.48 | tmzt | BA |
17:13.55 | parmaster | n_htc |
17:14.02 | parmaster | what uses n_erhtc? |
17:14.24 | tmzt | I just saw it in drivers/char in kernel26 cvs |
17:14.31 | tmzt | don't see n_htc |
17:14.33 | parmaster | haha, you're going to make me go back and look at the src aren't u |
17:14.46 | parmaster | yep, thats the correctname of it |
17:15.16 | tmzt | which is? |
17:15.30 | parmaster | did you see the comments |
17:15.56 | parmaster | n_erhtc |
17:16.13 | parmaster | well let me look hold on |
17:16.20 | tmzt | what comments? what file? |
17:17.51 | tmzt | this is confusing, it looks like it only supports one channel at a time but that doesn't look right |
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17:20.17 | tmzt | parmaster: that's the wrong one |
17:20.25 | tmzt | parmaster: n_tihtc |
17:20.54 | parmaster | TI Calypso GSM chipset line discipline |
17:21.01 | parmaster | yep, you're right |
17:21.20 | parmaster | but that is what is loading |
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17:21.44 | tmzt | maybe it is a singleline modem then |
17:21.53 | tmzt | the other channels are debug and config |
17:21.54 | parmaster | what is not functioning with the harrier |
17:22.04 | parmaster | ok, i'll check it out |
17:22.14 | tmzt | do you have usb host compiled in? |
17:22.25 | parmaster | like i said i still have a lot of checking to do to rule out anything |
17:22.26 | parmaster | yes |
17:22.32 | tmzt | even then, you need to setup UP3OCR is a particular way |
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17:23.05 | tmzt | I have it in my source file and it's also in ezx.c, I think it is specific to pxa ohci host rather than device |
17:23.12 | parmaster | ok, i'll look at it from the singleline point of view |
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17:23.44 | tmzt | well, I mean with n_tihtc (BA) running, then the main channel should be usable with singleline |
17:24.26 | tmzt | but then it might be possible bring up additional channels and get the unsolicited messages on one??? I don't know what this protocol supports |
17:25.01 | parmaster | how many channels does it support? |
17:25.05 | tmzt | on 6600, I think you might find you can use usb-serial and a get the at channel that way |
17:25.09 | tmzt | don't know |
17:25.34 | parmaster | you mean on the harrie |
17:25.37 | tmzt | yes |
17:25.38 | parmaster | r |
17:25.40 | parmaster | ok |
17:25.54 | tmzt | what source do you use for it? |
17:26.05 | tmzt | just blueangel with different lcd? |
17:26.06 | parmaster | angstrom |
17:26.20 | parmaster | its more than just different lcd |
17:26.20 | tmzt | kernel source |
17:26.35 | parmaster | hh |
17:26.42 | tmzt | kernel26? |
17:26.45 | tmzt | from cvs |
17:26.46 | parmaster | yes |
17:28.46 | parmaster | i can't directly access the cdma modem on that ttyS0 is all that i'm saying |
17:29.06 | parmaster | same load for both BA 0x6 and 0x4 |
17:29.13 | parmaster | boardid |
17:29.38 | tmzt | I know, I am saying I don't think the cdma modem is on uart (ttyS0) at all |
17:30.03 | parmaster | right so you're saying to look at usbserial |
17:30.23 | tmzt | yes |
17:30.37 | parmaster | ok i'll check it out |
17:31.25 | tmzt | it could also be on btuart (ttyS1) I guess, you can try that too |
17:31.45 | tmzt | or that could be the bt chip |
17:31.50 | parmaster | i think i check all ttySx |
17:33.17 | parmaster | well, i'm sure i did actually. |
17:35.52 | parmaster | its kind of cool on the BA with gsm.. you can actually attach with cu to the modem and then run gomunicator and watch all the commands it is sending to the modem |
17:36.46 | tmzt | any idea what runs at startup, changes ttyS0 to that line discipline? |
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17:37.23 | tmzt | I am trying to find out if it uses the existing tty as the low-level tty or if somehow it replaces the major/minor for ttyS0 |
17:37.34 | tmzt | or I just don't get the tty layer |
17:37.59 | parmaster | isn't it n_tihtc that does? |
17:38.08 | parmaster | its an lkm |
17:38.49 | parmaster | n_tihtc: TI Calypso GSM chipset line discipline (many htc devices). |
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17:40.14 | parmaster | well i just simply use cu to access it.. so when gomunicator uses it, it has to have permissions set to default |
17:40.31 | tmzt | yes, but I don't see where it registers it self a line discipline for ttyS0 |
17:40.39 | tmzt | so something else has to be doing that |
17:40.45 | parmaster | but for cu i set it to chowned uucp.uucp |
17:41.02 | parmaster | then i switch back to permissions to the default and rungomunicator |
17:41.51 | parmaster | so i get kind of a window to watch the commands it keeps sending |
17:42.09 | parmaster | and i can also manully write commands and receive the output as well |
17:42.49 | parmaster | i think i'm going to go grab some lunch.. be back in an hour or so |
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18:28.19 | dcordes | according to koen we use wrong vfp settings for the kaiser http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4878#c1 |
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18:35.22 | tmzt | dcordes: vfp? |
18:36.24 | dcordes | # CONFIG_VFP is not set |
18:36.31 | dcordes | that is from the msm_defconfig, can't be wrong. |
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18:45.38 | tmzt | dcordes: I mean, what's vfp? |
18:45.55 | dcordes | floating point stuff |
18:46.01 | dcordes | virtual |
18:46.06 | dcordes | I don't really understand it |
18:46.11 | tmzt | oh, yeah I was thinking video |
18:46.38 | tmzt | right AEABI and VFP |
18:47.10 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
18:47.11 | tmzt | but does the arm11 have fp in hw or is it just slower? |
18:47.18 | dcordes | what's the m? |
18:47.27 | dcordes | machine floating point unit = virtual floating point? |
18:47.39 | tmzt | m means machine for gcc |
18:47.51 | dcordes | ok |
18:47.51 | tmzt | or some other otion |
18:47.56 | tmzt | option |
18:47.58 | dcordes | and what's the mfloat-abi mean? |
18:48.22 | tmzt | application binary interface |
18:48.41 | tmzt | how to call into the kernel or between functions |
18:49.07 | dcordes | ok so what do we want there for the kaiser and friends? |
18:49.32 | dcordes | are virtual and soft float the same thing? |
18:50.02 | tmzt | I think vfp is done in userspace and soft is in kernel |
18:50.17 | tmzt | but it might mean something else to gcc |
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18:51.17 | tmzt | at least nwfp tries to emulate a hw fpu in the kernel and by trapping instructions |
18:51.25 | cipher_ | hi tmzt |
18:51.32 | tmzt | cipher_: did you test that om.exe? |
18:51.33 | cipher_ | i've read the wiki page |
18:51.39 | cipher_ | not yet |
18:51.57 | tmzt | which? Atom? |
18:52.07 | cipher_ | but does the om.exe works the same way as DSUU? |
18:52.11 | cipher_ | yeah |
18:52.14 | tmzt | also look at atom forums |
18:52.18 | tmzt | no |
18:52.37 | dcordes | tmzt, ok thanks. confusing stuff. fact is at least one of these compile switches breaks binary execution on kaiser |
18:52.41 | dcordes | I think both |
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18:52.47 | tmzt | om includes haret which loads the kernel into ram and jumps to it |
18:53.14 | tmzt | dcordes: I think you want aeabi and oabi_compat |
18:53.23 | dcordes | in the kernel? |
18:53.24 | tmzt | the rest look at menuconfig |
18:53.38 | tmzt | yes .config |
18:54.03 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
18:54.23 | tmzt | lookup on arm kernel page |
18:54.34 | tmzt | and arm.com under eabi |
18:55.00 | dcordes | TARGET_CC_ARCH = "-march=armv6j -mtune=arm1136jf-s -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=softfp" |
18:55.07 | cipher_ | i;m @ harem site |
18:56.35 | cipher_ | oh. it's a linux loader |
18:57.26 | cipher_ | after booting haret, i can run android on it |
18:57.28 | cipher_ | hopefully |
18:57.45 | tmzt | yes |
18:57.58 | tmzt | you only need om.exe for this |
18:58.15 | tmzt | it is haret with config file in the .exe |
18:58.53 | cipher_ | oh |
18:59.09 | cipher_ | but i compiled android in this binary format: |
18:59.09 | cipher_ | <PROTECTED> |
18:59.10 | cipher_ | wlan_cu: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
18:59.29 | tmzt | oabi |
18:59.31 | cipher_ | it should work on xscale right? since xscale is arm? |
18:59.38 | tmzt | yes |
18:59.40 | cipher_ | or ymmv |
18:59.50 | tmzt | a little of that |
19:00.00 | cipher_ | okay. i think it's worth a shot |
19:00.13 | tmzt | assuming its armv5 should work |
19:00.28 | cipher_ | but i'll backup my WM6 |
19:00.36 | tmzt | ok |
19:00.54 | tmzt | I like ppcpimbackup for pim data |
19:01.01 | tmzt | makes a zip file |
19:01.14 | tmzt | of csv data |
19:01.38 | tmzt | I always forget my bookmarks though |
19:01.47 | cipher_ | armv5 or armv5b |
19:01.50 | tmzt | they are under windows |
19:02.08 | tmzt | I thin profiles or app data or something |
19:02.21 | tmzt | b? |
19:02.30 | cipher_ | yeah... |
19:02.40 | cipher_ | but it's still armv5 |
19:02.55 | cipher_ | don't know where the b came from |
19:02.55 | tmzt | if its bigendian it won't work |
19:03.04 | tmzt | t? |
19:04.44 | cipher_ | hmm..don;t think it's b |
19:04.52 | cipher_ | okay, so after running om.exe |
19:05.01 | cipher_ | how do i proceed from there? |
19:05.15 | cipher_ | any docs>? |
19:05.27 | cipher_ | after booting up the linux |
19:05.28 | tmzt | we need to see what happens |
19:05.46 | cipher_ | oh... |
19:07.06 | cipher_ | tmzt: i missed that url you gave me about openmoko |
19:07.11 | cipher_ | need to bookmark it |
19:07.34 | tmzt | linuxtogo.org tilde htcpxa |
19:08.33 | cipher_ | oh i hate domain squatting. :) |
19:08.34 | cipher_ | :( |
19:09.07 | tmzt | if you typped it like that it probably searched |
19:09.47 | cipher_ | firefox? |
19:09.54 | tmzt | yes |
19:10.06 | tmzt | dcordes: what is the url? |
19:10.17 | cipher_ | hope this works.. *cross fingers* |
19:10.17 | tmzt | magician images |
19:10.24 | cipher_ | actually i'm doing this for my friend |
19:10.31 | dcordes | hmmmgrgmm |
19:10.44 | cipher_ | and if it works, we'll be the first in the country to have android phone |
19:10.52 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa |
19:11.09 | tmzt | well, 0.8 might work better for now |
19:11.37 | cipher_ | 0.8? |
19:11.54 | tmzt | dcordes: sorry, don't have tilde |
19:12.01 | tmzt | android |
19:12.52 | cipher_ | tmzt: even if it works, i doubt the 3G,UMTS,GPRS chipset will work |
19:13.10 | tmzt | 3g? |
19:13.20 | tmzt | so not calypso |
19:13.20 | dcordes | tmzt, no I'm grumpy cause of oe msm patch |
19:13.30 | cipher_ | yeah... 3.5g |
19:13.50 | cipher_ | tmzt: what is the phone recommendation to run android? |
19:13.51 | tmzt | probably msm6200 |
19:13.55 | tmzt | wcdma |
19:14.20 | cipher_ | i know HTC does, but i'm not sure what version |
19:15.23 | tmzt | g1 at least according to #android |
19:15.35 | cipher_ | can't get that here. :( |
19:15.45 | tmzt | uk? |
19:15.49 | cipher_ | singapore |
19:16.04 | tmzt | o2 is in singapore? |
19:16.14 | cipher_ | o2 phones, yeah |
19:16.24 | cipher_ | basically rebranded |
19:17.56 | dcordes | tmzt, you mean msm7200 there? |
19:18.17 | tmzt | no |
19:18.38 | tmzt | unless the who phone is based on it |
19:18.51 | tmzt | I think its pxa |
19:19.10 | tmzt | just a qualcomm wcdma chip |
19:19.16 | dcordes | pxa is the 'phone recommendation to run android' ? |
19:19.43 | tmzt | the arm9 part, but arm7 based |
19:19.43 | dcordes | or the omap thing the ril.git code is designed for? |
19:19.44 | tmzt | no |
19:20.02 | tmzt | I mean I think atom is pxa |
19:20.13 | dcordes | oh ok |
19:20.29 | tmzt | recommended phone is g1, but raph would be nice if it worked |
19:20.48 | cipher_ | atom is pxa |
19:20.59 | cipher_ | armv5 |
19:21.21 | dcordes | O2 XDA Atom = hermes ?? |
19:21.29 | tmzt | right, so if its msm6200 its probably on usb host |
19:21.33 | cipher_ | atom life is |
19:21.51 | tmzt | dcordes: no, hermes is s3c |
19:22.02 | tmzt | this is HTC Atom on wiki |
19:23.06 | dcordes | are the "asus" phones available at O2 htc manufactured? |
19:24.00 | tmzt | the P ones? |
19:24.57 | dcordes | I see some o2 ... ... (asus ...) in pdadb.net |
19:25.08 | dcordes | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=662 for instance |
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19:27.45 | tmzt | cipher_: backed up? |
19:28.03 | Bushman | damn, i've fall asleep -_-' |
19:29.21 | tmzt | Bushman: that program looks neat, it says its based on a linux program and there is source |
19:29.35 | Bushman | tmzt: cool |
19:29.59 | Bushman | hopefully someone will compile it as LPC |
19:30.06 | tmzt | rather someone made a radio with bluetooth though |
19:30.12 | tmzt | as? |
19:30.19 | tmzt | as what? |
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19:30.46 | Bushman | i mean as Linux PPC ap |
19:30.48 | Bushman | *ap |
19:30.51 | Bushman | *app |
19:30.53 | Bushman | damn |
19:30.56 | Bushman | i gotta wake up |
19:31.01 | tmzt | powerpc? |
19:31.15 | Bushman | no |
19:31.19 | Bushman | -_-' |
19:31.28 | Bushman | linux powered pocket pc |
19:31.36 | tmzt | arm |
19:31.50 | tmzt | I think it needs X |
19:32.01 | Bushman | erm... from that point of view, yes, arm cpu |
19:32.07 | Bushman | it does? |
19:32.08 | tmzt | and maybe scaled down to qvga |
19:32.09 | Bushman | hmm... |
19:32.41 | tmzt | for waterfall |
19:33.00 | tmzt | I would want a screen of rtty though |
19:33.07 | parmaster | atom is pxa272 |
19:33.15 | tmzt | parmaster: hi |
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19:33.51 | tmzt | parmaster: says it's 3g |
19:33.51 | tmzt | parmaster: so can't be calypso |
19:34.01 | Bushman | tmzt: but can we do it some way else? or we realy need the x server? |
19:34.42 | parmaster | no way.. its edge max |
19:34.43 | tmzt | Bushman: I am on motoq with a ssh connection, very nice even than pocketputty |
19:35.11 | tmzt | Bushman: that's what I would want for rtty psk winmail??? |
19:35.48 | Bushman | pocketputty? it's for WM |
19:35.50 | Bushman | ? |
19:35.58 | tmzt | maybe sdl |
19:36.02 | tmzt | yes |
19:36.12 | Bushman | what's motoq? |
19:36.17 | tmzt | but its limited in the keys that can mapped |
19:36.19 | parmaster | i don't see that the atom is 3g? |
19:36.28 | Bushman | any URL i can read about? |
19:36.34 | tmzt | motorola qwerty widescreen qvga phone |
19:36.43 | Bushman | aaaah |
19:36.55 | Bushman | blah >_< |
19:37.09 | Bushman | tmzt: but linux powered or what? |
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19:37.24 | tmzt | parmaster: no? that's what cipher_ said |
19:37.40 | tmzt | Bushman: now it is |
19:37.46 | Bushman | pocketputty is lame IMHO |
19:37.47 | parmaster | i'm seeing EDGE service ma |
19:37.50 | parmaster | max |
19:37.56 | tmzt | But |
19:38.04 | tmzt | then he meant 2.5? |
19:38.06 | Bushman | can't send Alt + 0-9 keys |
19:38.28 | parmaster | well xda-dev could be wrong |
19:38.38 | tmzt | right, that's why I like linux for ssh/irssi |
19:38.56 | tmzt | though I don,t have those mapped right now |
19:38.57 | parmaster | but no indication of anthing higher than gprs EDGE |
19:39.05 | parmaster | evenin peoples posts |
19:39.07 | tmzt | so I use /window X |
19:39.22 | Bushman | tmzt: how am i supose to detach the screen if i can't send A^ |
19:39.49 | tmzt | parmaster: ok, so probably n_tihtc and calypso |
19:39.58 | Bushman | there's something teribly wrong going on with my BA |
19:40.00 | tmzt | Bushman: in putty? |
19:40.03 | parmaster | tmzt: very well could be |
19:40.06 | Bushman | the linux is loading for over 5m |
19:40.10 | Bushman | 5min |
19:40.21 | Bushman | tmzt: yeah, in pocket putty |
19:40.27 | tmzt | Bushman: what did you use? |
19:40.33 | tmzt | for rootfs? |
19:40.44 | Bushman | same that yesterday |
19:40.53 | Bushman | it worked yesterday |
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19:41.21 | tmzt | what is it saying, messages from init? |
19:41.34 | tmzt | what rootfs? |
19:41.40 | parmaster | Bushman: di you use the alge images like i said, instead of the angstrom x11? |
19:42.03 | parmaster | thats autobuld from angstrom is broken |
19:42.34 | tmzt | dcordes: changes? |
19:42.39 | parmaster | alge's stuff works good and it up to current if you follow the instructions he gives forthe second tarball |
19:42.56 | Bushman | parmaster: could it work yesterday and not work today for any particular reason? |
19:42.56 | dcordes | tmzt, huh? |
19:43.15 | parmaster | Bushman:what are you running? |
19:43.15 | tmzt | broke Ang X11? |
19:43.25 | parmaster | angstrom x11?? |
19:43.30 | Bushman | Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r19-htcblueangel.rootfs |
19:43.38 | parmaster | its buggy shit breaks |
19:43.45 | parmaster | use alge's images |
19:43.50 | tmzt | thats old |
19:43.54 | Bushman | direct URL plox |
19:43.59 | tmzt | not auto build |
19:44.18 | tmzt | parmaster: is this to extract on sd card? |
19:44.19 | Bushman | tmzt: dude, old it is, why? cause it's in the howto |
19:44.28 | parmaster | [WWW]http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/ |
19:44.39 | parmaster | http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/images/htcblueangel/ |
19:44.49 | Bushman | anyway, what's the "Enable KITL" in BA's boot menu? |
19:45.03 | Bushman | cause don't remember :( |
19:45.16 | tmzt | something in windows I think |
19:45.42 | parmaster | get the images from that link and untar the second tarball over the / diretory and you'll have the current build |
19:45.47 | Bushman | i need to be sure cause i wanna reformat whole shit |
19:46.11 | tmzt | parmaster: on sd card? |
19:46.20 | parmaster | tmzt:yep |
19:46.39 | tmzt | Bushman: what was last line printed? |
19:47.14 | Bushman | donno, splash screen stoped on <10% |
19:47.20 | parmaster | Bushman: don't bother trying to run that broken ass image |
19:47.29 | parmaster | use alge's |
19:47.31 | Bushman | parmaster: i'm not |
19:47.43 | Bushman | i'm DL'ing your url |
19:47.43 | tmzt | didn't panic? |
19:47.59 | tmzt | this is the new zImage? |
19:48.00 | parmaster | even ts on the image you are trying to run is broken and jittery |
19:48.32 | parmaster | did you notice that? |
19:48.50 | tmzt | what are CMDLINE and INITRD? |
19:48.54 | Bushman | tmzt: yup, new freshly compiled zImage from the CVS you told me |
19:48.59 | tmzt | in default.txt |
19:49.49 | Bushman | guys, use nicknames when talking to each other cause i don't know if it's to me or not :D |
19:50.09 | Bushman | if there's more than 2 speaking things get wicked |
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19:52.30 | tmzt | Bushman: what are CMDLINE and INITRD in default.txt? |
19:52.50 | Bushman | on the ext3 part of the SD? |
19:53.07 | tmzt | Bushman: where ever haret is |
19:53.20 | Bushman | (btw, donno why but after a reformating the device linux has booted nicely) |
19:53.55 | Bushman | tmzt: you mean startup.txt? |
19:53.56 | Bushman | set KERNEL "zImage" |
19:53.56 | Bushman | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 mem=128M rootdelay=5" |
19:53.57 | Bushman | boot2 |
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19:55.03 | tmzt | didn't think it would mount the SD, but it must be |
19:55.49 | tmzt | Bushman: so it boots? |
19:55.51 | Bushman | anyway, i was just thinking... is it posible to put the linux into the extended rom partition and put haret into the autorun or something? |
19:55.55 | Bushman | yup |
19:56.04 | Bushman | but i will use the new one anyway |
19:56.18 | Bushman | the |
19:56.19 | Bushman | gpe-image-htcblueangel.tar2008-Aug-08 01:01:1352.5M |
19:56.28 | parmaster | Bushman: just curious, is your BA carrier locked? |
19:57.05 | Bushman | i don't think so, it's T-mobile branded and i'm using PlusGSM 26 001 |
19:57.34 | parmaster | in what country? |
19:57.53 | Bushman | PL |
19:58.18 | Bushman | does it matters anyhow? |
19:58.19 | parmaster | cool, yeah definitely an unlocked carrier;) |
19:58.24 | parmaster | no not at all |
19:58.33 | Bushman | o_O? |
19:58.39 | Bushman | then whu you ask? :D |
19:58.45 | Bushman | *why |
19:58.53 | parmaster | well gomunicator might give you funky stuff |
19:59.20 | parmaster | but you know you're unlocked already :) |
19:59.30 | tmzt | dcordes: do you have the singleline or is it just in git? |
19:59.34 | tmzt | om git |
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19:59.49 | tmzt | fso git |
19:59.55 | Bushman | you mean that the gomunicator could unlock my rig? |
20:00.00 | parmaster | no |
20:00.07 | Bushman | then what? |
20:00.56 | Bushman | one other thing, how do i "shut down" it? |
20:01.03 | tmzt | init 0 |
20:01.12 | Bushman | and then what? |
20:01.28 | Bushman | fuck! |
20:01.29 | tmzt | if it works, nothing |
20:01.37 | Bushman | i'v presed the hard key |
20:01.43 | Bushman | -_-' |
20:01.58 | Bushman | now i have a nice terminal full of i |
20:02.52 | Bushman | tmzt: i was rather asking for "how to turn it of so i can remove the SD and turn it on without reseting it |
20:02.59 | Bushman | (or removing the battery |
20:03.00 | Bushman | ) |
20:04.02 | parmaster | http://par.multics.org/xda-developers_BA-Unlocker.CAB <--- will unlock your rig |
20:04.50 | Bushman | damn... can't turn it on after removing the bat -_-' |
20:05.12 | parmaster | that is for wm tho |
20:05.24 | Bushman | parmaster: cool, good to know there is such thing |
20:05.35 | Bushman | tho i'm not going to use it :P |
20:05.46 | parmaster | i already used it on my last one |
20:05.51 | parmaster | which i just broke |
20:05.56 | Bushman | anyway, HALP! |
20:06.08 | parmaster | but i'm buying another one for 89 bux :/ |
20:06.18 | parmaster | people sell them cheap if they are carrier locked ;) |
20:07.10 | parmaster | the BA is such a big heavy clunky piece of shit |
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20:07.47 | Bushman | thanks -_-' |
20:07.57 | Bushman | and i thought i bought a nice toy |
20:08.29 | parmaster | how many euros did you get it for? |
20:08.57 | Bushman | hmm... |
20:09.11 | tmzt | yeah, that was supposed to do it |
20:09.40 | parmaster | hehe, or 5 finger discount from a tourist hehhh |
20:11.46 | Bushman | i'v got it for 114EUR |
20:12.20 | parmaster | wow |
20:12.33 | Bushman | your 89 bucks sounds cheap |
20:12.44 | parmaster | in america the screen replacement goes for about $60+ |
20:12.45 | Bushman | can you get me 5 of them? |
20:13.13 | parmaster | but you can usually find a carrier locked one for less than $100 |
20:13.27 | Bushman | i took the 114$ one cause the cheaper ones were without the cradle |
20:13.31 | Bushman | only charger |
20:13.41 | parmaster | for 560 euros? certainly ;) |
20:14.03 | Bushman | huh? |
20:14.17 | Bushman | where did you got that price from? |
20:14.22 | Bushman | sky? |
20:14.28 | parmaster | hhahaha |
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20:15.24 | dcordes | tmzt, I have it locally (from OE) and on the kaiser. and it is in git. |
20:15.43 | Bushman | what's OE? |
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20:16.16 | dcordes | Bushman, openembedded.org |
20:16.16 | Bushman | parmaster: if you wanna make a serious buissnes on the BAs, leme know |
20:16.21 | Bushman | dcordes: thx |
20:16.51 | parmaster | my massivvely parallel cluster of BA's computing or profit in .pl hmmmm lemme think about that one :) |
20:17.31 | Bushman | ok, booting the new image |
20:17.44 | Bushman | why is it still called angstrom? |
20:18.03 | Bushman | hmm... a nicer splash screen |
20:18.04 | tmzt | cr2: do you know how n_tihtc works? particularly how it is started in userspace? |
20:18.14 | Bushman | a bit gnome-like but still :P |
20:18.50 | parmaster | cr2:i was unable to get any response from /dev/ttyS0 on the harrier.. but gsm BA works fine |
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20:22.24 | dcordes | cr2, evening |
20:25.29 | BabelO | parmaster, tmzt http://www.algepop.net/users/alge/angstrom-ba/settihtc-0.1/ |
20:25.45 | BabelO | that's how it works, just switching driver on like that |
20:26.24 | tmzt | ok, it sets the ldisc from userspace |
20:27.14 | Bushman | Please enter the six letters or digits that appear in the image opposite. |
20:27.26 | Bushman | like, from right to left or what? |
20:27.29 | Bushman | o_O? |
20:27.37 | tmzt | can't see why they use a mux for single at channel though |
20:27.52 | tmzt | left to right |
20:28.31 | tmzt | if they look like cats, just give up |
20:28.38 | Bushman | :P |
20:28.44 | Bushman | who wanna be Referrer? |
20:28.46 | Bushman | :P |
20:29.17 | Bushman | i'll type in "Santa's_Elf" :P |
20:30.38 | Bushman | wueeee... "bushman" username is ocupied |
20:30.45 | tmzt | BabelO: is it possible to open more channels by sending a command to control channel? |
20:31.17 | tmzt | like ts0710 |
20:32.18 | BabelO | tmzt: on magician there is another channel for data gprs if i remember, but on ba gprs works with dpram |
20:32.41 | tmzt | what? |
20:32.46 | tmzt | dpram |
20:33.15 | BabelO | blueangel_dpram |
20:33.44 | tmzt | I mean for ogsmd, to have unsolicited on seperate channel |
20:34.10 | BabelO | the driver create a virtual ttyS8 do dial with pppd |
20:34.21 | tmzt | or just use singleline |
20:34.31 | BabelO | unsolicited data on separate channel ? never see that |
20:34.56 | tmzt | BabelO: ctrl p and ctrl n switch channels |
20:35.24 | tmzt | have done it accidently a few times but just figured it out |
20:35.24 | BabelO | are you sure it is not a gsmd feature ? like a filter ? |
20:36.11 | tmzt | I think on ezx or om it is seperate |
20:36.29 | tmzt | singleline does that filtering I think |
20:36.30 | Bushman | my sensei sent me pictures of her drunk friends at karaoke pub lol :D |
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20:46.39 | cr2 | hi |
20:46.49 | cr2 | parmaster: od -x /dev/ttyS0 ? |
20:49.02 | parmaster | cr2:i don't have anything hooked up or with me right now..i'll talk to ya about it when i have the phone on me |
20:49.15 | tmzt | cr2: is cdma modem on uart on harrier? |
20:50.23 | parmaster | i don't know what good hexdump of the device would dotho |
20:51.00 | parmaster | hi btw :) |
20:53.17 | Bushman | parmaster: in this new image i still can't use phone |
20:53.32 | Bushman | is it operational yet? |
20:54.00 | parmaster | the gomunicator developer himself says it doesn't dial |
20:54.14 | Bushman | lol |
20:54.19 | parmaster | i don't know why.. earlier versions worked fine |
20:55.52 | parmaster | i think maybe he adapted some code from a terminal program into it..also he is might be trying to adapt the application to work with the open platform for many phones |
20:55.58 | Bushman | heh, i just love it when i open an app with blank database and the file is alredy 5kb :P |
20:56.20 | parmaster | its under opemoko i forget what its called.. ask tmzt he knows. |
20:56.33 | parmaster | anyway, i think thats what i gathered from reading his stuff |
20:56.49 | Bushman | any way to install older version of phone app? |
20:57.26 | parmaster | i saw alge, has some patches for the phone on the ba.. i'm assuming those are included in the image he puts up though ? |
20:58.13 | parmaster | you could try another phone app like gpephone, i haven't installed it yet |
20:59.39 | parmaster | gomunicator used to work like a charm albeit it sounded a little staticy and you could microwave fry small animals with it if you held the phone the right way ;) lol |
20:59.39 | dcordes | looks like OE will get a new arch |
21:00.37 | Bushman | :D |
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21:02.26 | dcordes | cr2, what's the scientist choice here? http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4878#c6 |
21:03.12 | parmaster | Bushman: did you use netshield to set up iptables? |
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21:03.40 | Bushman | parmaster: where? |
21:04.13 | parmaster | in gpe |
21:04.28 | Bushman | nope |
21:04.53 | parmaster | theres some tweaking you can do |
21:05.00 | Bushman | like? |
21:05.12 | parmaster | i wouldn't try to bring up the acx driver though |
21:05.14 | parmaster | lol |
21:05.17 | Bushman | btw, i was about to ask how to bring wifi to life |
21:05.27 | Bushman | acx? |
21:05.31 | parmaster | wifi |
21:05.32 | Bushman | what;s that? |
21:05.39 | parmaster | trust me.. just.. don't :) |
21:05.39 | Bushman | oh :O |
21:06.05 | Bushman | don't tell me it will gone mad if i do |
21:06.14 | Bushman | crap -_-' |
21:06.21 | parmaster | the kernel will panic in about 2 seconds |
21:06.32 | Bushman | lol |
21:06.36 | parmaster | other than that most everything is good to go |
21:06.50 | Bushman | cause wifi is very scarry stuff |
21:06.59 | Bushman | that's why kernel panics :P |
21:07.23 | parmaster | you can tether through usb and set it up through that way |
21:07.28 | Bushman | in other words it's useless as is |
21:07.35 | parmaster | well not really |
21:07.39 | parmaster | just the wifi |
21:07.43 | Bushman | dude |
21:07.48 | Bushman | the phone is dead |
21:07.52 | Bushman | the wifi is dead |
21:08.04 | Bushman | if i go USB it's not mobile anymore |
21:08.05 | Bushman | lol |
21:08.22 | parmaster | well the phone should be ok as it always was. just means you need to revert to an old version or use a different app |
21:08.53 | Bushman | hmm... |
21:09.09 | Bushman | the USB ethernet doesn't want to install for some reason |
21:09.10 | Bushman | :/ |
21:09.20 | parmaster | consider yourself lucky. you should see what the support/statusis like for all of the other phones |
21:09.23 | Bushman | no wait, it is there |
21:09.56 | Bushman | ok, what should i setup the USB ethernet to on my PC? |
21:10.03 | dcordes | diogene31_, ping |
21:10.06 | parmaster | the RDIS linux driver |
21:10.19 | parmaster | " usb gadget" driver |
21:10.31 | Bushman | dude, ubuntu did that for me |
21:10.42 | Bushman | i'm talking about the connection details |
21:10.55 | Bushman | how to make it transparent to the internet? |
21:11.16 | parmaster | look at your stuff |
21:11.25 | Bushman | i am looking at it |
21:11.26 | Bushman | :P |
21:11.37 | parmaster | give it nameservers etc. and default route etc. |
21:11.39 | Bushman | doesn't help much :P |
21:11.59 | parmaster | have you ever run linux before? |
21:12.14 | Bushman | once or twice :P |
21:12.36 | NetRipper | you have to make your linux a router, i.e. configure masquerade nat using iptables |
21:12.45 | parmaster | oh, then google is your friend |
21:13.10 | Bushman | god no -_-' |
21:13.15 | NetRipper | and enable ip forwarding |
21:13.20 | NetRipper | its not 1-2-3 |
21:13.22 | Bushman | please, only not IPTABLES |
21:13.31 | Bushman | AAAAAAAAA!!! |
21:14.41 | NetRipper | wish i could get ethernet gadget working on my raph |
21:15.20 | Bushman | root@bushman-laptop:/# |
21:15.20 | Bushman | Kernel panic: user run out of luck! |
21:17.05 | Bushman | anyone wanna configure iptables and dnsmasq on my desktop? :P |
21:18.02 | parmaster | its jst MASQUERADE in iptables |
21:18.13 | Bushman | whatever |
21:18.24 | Bushman | i'm to lazy to do it anyway |
21:18.30 | Bushman | :P |
21:18.57 | parmaster | oh, you won't enjoy these phone distro's then |
21:19.36 | Bushman | just wait a minute... i'm gethering my will |
21:20.22 | Bushman | i have an idea |
21:20.37 | parmaster | run android 0.8 or somemething with no keyboard or ts support |
21:20.37 | Bushman | no, that won't work ;/ |
21:20.59 | Bushman | huh? |
21:21.54 | Bushman | mobile with no keyboard nor touchscreen? brick is more usefull in that configuration |
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21:25.16 | parmaster | you have a BA you should be happy.. a lot of the stuff works |
21:26.04 | parmaster | eventually the raph will too |
21:27.11 | parmaster | you could always get a dream (G1) with RC29 on it.. don't upgradeit.. and use the images at xda-developers to install on it.. that way you have control and its more open |
21:29.19 | dcordes | better use a raph or diam |
21:29.20 | dcordes | more open |
21:29.30 | dcordes | or blackstone or x1 |
21:29.53 | dcordes | as cr2 says they are more evil ^^ |
21:29.59 | parmaster | lol |
21:30.01 | parmaster | so true |
21:30.14 | parmaster | yeah forget the dream, what am i sayin' |
21:30.52 | dcordes | it's certainly the best option when it comes to working kernel drivers now |
21:30.59 | parmaster | but a prepackaged distro where out of the box everything flies without having to run android..i dunno |
21:31.08 | dcordes | but not when it comes to the aspect you raised there |
21:31.40 | parmaster | theres always a bunch of tuning and tweaking |
21:31.41 | dcordes | you mean you see no future for non-android userspace on msm7* ?! |
21:31.43 | dcordes | :) |
21:32.00 | parmaster | oh of course i would never say that dcordes :) |
21:32.21 | parmaster | i'm just sayin for the impatient... |
21:32.35 | dcordes | yea certainly will need some patience |
21:39.37 | toer | :) |
21:40.03 | dcordes | toer, hi, wanna test the initrd? |
21:40.13 | toer | ok |
21:40.28 | dcordes | want me to include a video file in it or package it yourself? |
21:41.17 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/builds/OE/htcraphael/Angstrom-console-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20081127-htcraphael.rootfs.tar.gz |
21:45.31 | NetRipper | right |
21:45.40 | NetRipper | is there anyone with a raph800 online? |
21:45.42 | toer | is it just to add the file to the archive? |
21:46.10 | toer | firefox just crapped it pants when i opened that link |
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21:47.09 | szsoftware | evening |
21:47.58 | szsoftware | hmm, unfortunately the iclem irclog is sleeping, since days ^^ |
21:48.20 | szsoftware | don't know absolutely nothing what's going on here |
21:48.21 | dcordes | toer, no you must extract the archive as root, add/remove/modify whatever you like, then gzip and cpio pack it |
21:48.30 | szsoftware | dcordes: Hi |
21:48.37 | dcordes | szsoftware, hey buddy |
21:48.49 | dcordes | szsoftware, use the daily updated rikers log |
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21:49.34 | szsoftware | dcordes: yeah I have to, but iclem was so nice, very fast |
21:50.27 | dcordes | szsoftware, currently editing the whole msm in OE structure and a new arch is likely to be added |
21:51.02 | dcordes | OE has no armv6 without fpu |
21:58.02 | cr2 | dcordes: b) switch msm machines to softfloat |
21:58.44 | cr2 | dcordes: it's a problem for the userspace only, and our kernel is not that far anyway. |
21:59.13 | dcordes | koen seems eager to use c) |
21:59.22 | cr2 | dcordes: i'll try to look into the proc_comm api |
22:00.00 | dcordes | cr2, ok. do you know how the voice call audio stuff is controlled? |
22:00.33 | cr2 | no, it's some rpc stuff |
22:00.55 | cr2 | proc_comm and vreg_ api for me |
22:01.43 | cr2 | i can understand the clk_api requirements more or less, so need to move further |
22:02.22 | dcordes | I'm just wondering about the audio for moko |
22:02.37 | dcordes | moko gsm seems to work quite well on the kais |
22:03.41 | cr2 | i need to take care about the more lowlevel problems it seems. |
22:04.15 | cr2 | good night |
22:07.10 | Bushman | guys, how do i configure the mobile side so it can connect via usb? |
22:07.28 | dcordes | never uses usbnet |
22:08.00 | diogene31_ | dcordes: pong |
22:08.02 | Bushman | no, i mean basics like how to up the interface |
22:08.20 | Bushman | cause there's no ifconfig :/ |
22:08.45 | dcordes | diogene31_, are you the guy who bought a kaiser? |
22:09.15 | Bushman | wich should i use? usbd0 or usbf? |
22:09.26 | diogene31_ | dcordes: Yes. |
22:11.19 | Bushman | anyone? |
22:12.19 | dcordes | diogene31_, ok. how's your current project going? |
22:12.32 | Bushman | guys, i can even go and RTFM, just tell me what i'm looking for if there's no ifconfig? |
22:17.07 | toer | dcordes: google told me to extract it like this "gzip -dc Angstrom-console-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20081127-htcraphael.rootfs.tar.gz | cpio -id" but then i get some cpio errors extracting /dev/* |
22:17.24 | toer | so maybe its better you add the video file |
22:17.25 | dcordes | sorry I forgot to paste the magic ramdisk commandline |
22:17.52 | dcordes | find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > ../my-initr-android-with-custom-stuffs.cpio.gz |
22:18.04 | dcordes | inside the folder with the extracted rootfs |
22:18.19 | dcordes | don't forget to do all this as root user |
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22:19.20 | Bushman | dcordes: is there any tool like ifconfig on this linux? |
22:30.44 | toer | to large image :p need to find a smaller video file |
22:31.04 | Bushman | toer: what format? |
22:31.31 | dcordes | Bushman, which? |
22:32.01 | dcordes | toer, on the kaiser, haret onnly accepts initrd.cpio.gz which are smaller than 20MB |
22:32.24 | toer | i guess its the same here |
22:32.43 | toer | does the mplayer included tackle any format |
22:32.51 | Bushman | dcordes: what "which?" |
22:33.22 | dcordes | ok done. soon there are uptodate armv6-novfp feeds in OE and regularly updated kernel builds. |
22:33.25 | dcordes | and images |
22:33.51 | dcordes | bye |
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22:39.44 | marajin | hmm |
22:40.02 | marajin | ~seen ginge |
22:40.03 | apt | ginge <n=ginge@78-105-175-81.zone3.bethere.co.uk> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 17d 20h 5m 5s ago, saying: 'oops, wrong window'. |
22:40.08 | marajin | heh |
22:41.58 | Bushman | anyone ? |
22:42.13 | Bushman | i can't mnage to connect via USB |
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22:45.44 | cipher_ | hi all |
22:45.51 | cipher_ | okay, after i run om.exe |
22:45.55 | cipher_ | what do i do next? |
22:46.07 | cipher_ | it boots up |
22:46.25 | cipher_ | now the next step is to get android working |
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23:22.45 | diogene31_ | dcordes: If you mean the mioa701, it's continuing its road happily. |
23:22.52 | LunohoD | does anyone have a gadget with 2.6.27 kernel? |
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23:28.58 | Bushman | damn... it's useless |
23:29.27 | Bushman | no wifi, no phone, no USB connectivity |
23:29.58 | Bushman | my broken nokia 6600 is more useful atm than this HTC |
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23:34.09 | Bushman | how to disable the progress screen in the kernel? |
23:34.50 | Bushman | the one you can see when boting and shuting down? |
23:34.53 | parmaster | ok, just use /sbin/ifconfig |
23:35.09 | Bushman | ? |
23:35.09 | parmaster | also through the gui you can set the ip's for usb |
23:35.17 | Bushman | i did |
23:35.19 | parmaster | thatsprobably preferable |
23:35.22 | Bushman | didn't helped |
23:36.13 | parmaster | make sure your subnet is right and etc etc. |
23:36.48 | Bushman | waiting for the shut down to compleet and want to boot it again and see if it will store the settings |
23:36.59 | parmaster | yeah it does |
23:37.23 | Bushman | good, and hopefully it will work |
23:37.39 | parmaster | i don't know how you bring it up on the linux side |
23:37.50 | parmaster | i usually connect into it from a windows machine |
23:38.08 | parmaster | there you just install the gadget driver under windows |
23:38.33 | parmaster | theres probably an lkm or something for it under ubuntu anyway |
23:39.11 | parmaster | try to see if you can get bluetooth up with ip stack as well.. just for fun |
23:39.34 | parmaster | i'm eventually going to network all of my htc phones that way |
23:39.45 | Bushman | damn |
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23:42.05 | cipher_ | hi guys |
23:42.07 | cipher_ | sorry |
23:42.09 | cipher_ | so where do i go next |
23:42.15 | cipher_ | i bootup the openmoko.exe |
23:42.17 | parmaster | i have 2 BA's , 1 Harrier, 1 apache... and probably will get a raph soon and maybe a kovsky |
23:42.30 | Bushman | won't shutdown :/ |
23:42.52 | cipher_ | the linux is booting up |
23:43.03 | cipher_ | so how do i put on the android in? |
23:43.15 | Bushman | mine won't shutdown |
23:48.31 | Bushman | the soft keyboard is acting wierds |
23:48.35 | Bushman | *wierd |
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