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| 09:35.04 | Marajin | yo |
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| 11:32.05 | Marajin | mornin' people |
| 11:32.07 | Marajin | 'lo BabelO_ |
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| 12:48.13 | dcordes | ok the iclem log seems to have passed out. can somebody tell me if there are any reports from joshjdevl subsequent to 00:38 joshjdevl i'll do that first ? |
| 12:53.42 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 12:53.46 | BabelO_ | afternoon Marajin |
| 12:55.02 | dcordes | BabelO_, hi |
| 12:55.16 | BabelO_ | hi dcordes |
| 12:57.15 | dcordes | NetRipper, here is the kaiser /proc/iomem from this kernel http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082210.diff |
| 12:57.20 | dcordes | 10000000-16ffffff : System RAM |
| 12:57.20 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.20 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.20 | dcordes | 98000000-98000012 : htc-egpio |
| 12:57.20 | dcordes | e0006000-e0006fff : msm_i2c.0 |
| 12:57.21 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.25 | dcordes | e1001000-e1001fff : msm_sdcc.2 |
| 12:59.42 | dcordes | cr2: that is nice but I have no idea how I would calculate those 7 parameters. one might also ask barry how he got the clocks for kaiser sd2 |
| 13:02.53 | Marajin | how's it going people? |
| 13:22.48 | dcordes | Marajin, all good. you? |
| 13:23.15 | Marajin | Not bad, I got a solar charger and tired it out on my kaiser |
| 13:23.17 | Marajin | worked pretty well |
| 13:24.05 | dcordes | cool. you gonna go join kiozen's hiking club? did you do a full charge? |
| 13:24.17 | Marajin | dcordes: I did yeah |
| 13:24.25 | Marajin | but no, It's just a nice emergency charger and stuff. |
| 13:24.33 | dcordes | :) how long did it take? |
| 13:24.58 | Marajin | I dunno, it charges from the panels in about 5 hours according to the manual, 2-3 if I use the larger backpack mountable panel |
| 13:25.14 | Marajin | it charges to an internal battery then you can charge other devices |
| 13:25.28 | Marajin | it did my kaiser in about 90 minutes and still had some charge in its internal battery though |
| 13:26.26 | dcordes | sounds ok |
| 13:27.45 | Marajin | yeah |
| 13:27.48 | Marajin | it's a nice backup |
| 13:30.22 | dcordes | Marajin, do you have some scrollback and can check for the blackstone person? |
| 13:30.31 | Marajin | sure? |
| 13:30.53 | Marajin | any idea about where it is? |
| 13:30.57 | dcordes | that would be nice. I'm very curious about whether or not he booted |
| 13:31.13 | dcordes | last night 0:40 following |
| 13:31.28 | dcordes | well 11:40 :) |
| 13:31.34 | dcordes | joshjdevl is the name |
| 13:32.04 | Marajin | ah ok |
| 13:32.07 | Marajin | I'm just reading that now |
| 13:32.48 | Marajin | Nope, doesn't seem to |
| 13:34.22 | dcordes | ok did he try though? |
| 13:44.24 | dcordes | I guess it will boot but framebuffer will print garbage because size and/or location differ |
| 13:45.52 | dcordes | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 13:47.17 | dcordes | any kovsky (xperia x1) people present? |
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| 14:05.53 | Marajin | dcordes: he doesn't say |
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| 14:16.26 | dcordes | somebody knows what is "AT@HTCPDPFD" ? |
| 14:17.05 | dcordes | AT@HTCDORMANCYSET |
| 14:17.13 | dcordes | AT+HTCAGPS |
| 14:17.16 | dcordes | AT+HTCNV |
| 14:17.20 | dcordes | AT+HTCCTZR |
| 14:17.30 | dcordes | :AT+HTCCNIV |
| 14:17.49 | dcordes | AT@HTCDIS |
| 14:17.49 | SanMehat | +++ |
| 14:17.52 | SanMehat | ATH |
| 14:17.52 | dcordes | @HTCSAP |
| 14:18.15 | dcordes | SanMehat, ? |
| 14:18.29 | SanMehat | you don't know +++? |
| 14:18.54 | dcordes | I don't know much about those standards at all |
| 14:19.07 | dcordes | just trying to pin down the htc prop. commands in msm7* |
| 14:19.12 | SanMehat | oh |
| 14:19.44 | dcordes | what is +++? |
| 14:19.45 | BabelO_ | dcordes: HTCAGPS look for A-GPS sytem :) |
| 14:19.50 | BabelO_ | dcordes: CTZR is time Zone |
| 14:20.43 | dcordes | BabelO, ok we should update http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM with them? |
| 14:21.58 | dcordes | SanMehat, swetland pointed me to http://www.3gpp.org/ for standards but I don't know where is the document with the ultimate command table |
| 14:24.36 | Marajin | dcordes: did szsoftware move already? |
| 14:24.49 | dcordes | Marajin, not sure |
| 14:26.31 | dcordes | what's this? 14:52:55 Rx:[WCDMA] WAKEUP PDA: 0(0),0(0),1(14),0(0)\r\n |
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| 14:30.47 | BabelO_ | dcordes: gsm modem waking up PDA ? :) |
| 14:31.44 | dcordes | BabelO, to me it also sounds like that. but I don't know it. shall I create a new wiki page or use the old one above to document all of this? |
| 14:41.09 | BabelO_ | dcordes: do it, better to use old one |
| 14:41.21 | BabelO_ | btw HTCSAP look like SIM Toolkit command |
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| 14:46.09 | dcordes | BabelO, ok. I will append a new table with "observed on kaiser (msm7200), ..." why do you think it is for sim? |
| 14:47.35 | NetRipper | dcordes, thanks, just to confirm, sdcard is working on kaiser, right? |
| 14:47.48 | dcordes | NetRipper, yep |
| 14:48.07 | dcordes | with various limitations |
| 14:48.09 | NetRipper | ok, cr2 was concerned about the virtual memory addressing in iomem, but kaiser has the same |
| 14:48.15 | NetRipper | which kind of limitations? |
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| 14:48.34 | dcordes | dma problem |
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| 14:49.24 | NetRipper | ok so you're using PIO? |
| 14:49.38 | dcordes | no |
| 14:50.40 | NetRipper | ok so are you polling or is there another alternative for dma? |
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| 14:52.44 | dcordes | BabelO, should I put it like /command/option/comment ? |
| 14:52.59 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, hi |
| 14:53.06 | stefan_schmidt | hi dcordes |
| 14:58.12 | dcordes | AT@HTCCSQ=1;+ENCSQ=1 |
| 14:58.34 | dcordes | is "+ENCSQ=1" an option? |
| 15:03.30 | NetRipper | lol disk i/o errors commented out in that .diff |
| 15:06.35 | dcordes | BabelO, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 15:06.46 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, read the ml? |
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| 15:07.18 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Which one? |
| 15:07.23 | Bushman | Good (UGT) Morning |
| 15:07.33 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: You mean your discussions with mickey? |
| 15:07.42 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Made some progress? |
| 15:07.51 | stefan_schmidt | ugt Bushman |
| 15:07.53 | dcordes | yes which was basically useless because the moko mux thing won't work here |
| 15:08.12 | dcordes | no I'm documenting a few commands |
| 15:08.41 | Bushman | guys, i have a wierd problem in my linux on my HTC |
| 15:08.49 | Bushman | the keyboard acts wierd |
| 15:08.57 | Bushman | i mean the HW keyboard |
| 15:09.19 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: It's not a moko mux thing, but a generic muxer :) Just that Google decided on a different setup with kernel handles a lot of it |
| 15:09.31 | dcordes | Bushman, blueangel? |
| 15:09.43 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Still ogsmd will work with it. Needs some tweaking tho. |
| 15:09.55 | Bushman | dcordes: yea |
| 15:10.03 | dcordes | Bushman, known bug |
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| 15:10.19 | Bushman | qtek 9090, MDA III, whatever you call it |
| 15:10.25 | Bushman | dcordes: any solution? |
| 15:10.30 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, then I got dr lauer wrong. I thought the modem must support command sets (cmux blablaI) |
| 15:11.15 | dcordes | Bushman, not to my knowledge |
| 15:11.28 | dcordes | Bushman, except for not using the hw keyboard |
| 15:11.44 | Bushman | o_O |
| 15:11.50 | Bushman | erm... |
| 15:11.58 | Bushman | since when the bug is known? |
| 15:12.09 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: nah, it is just a lot easier this way. If you only have only channel, serial, it blocks if you have a AT command that needs a long itme |
| 15:12.14 | stefan_schmidt | +COPS for example |
| 15:12.28 | dcordes | Bushman, I don't know. feel free to send patches to hh.org ML lol |
| 15:12.44 | Bushman | ha... ha... ha -_-' |
| 15:13.11 | Bushman | i'm no coder |
| 15:13.36 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, so you think we can and should do it? |
| 15:14.08 | Bushman | i just want linux cause i'v crushed my touch screen twice in one week cause of windows |
| 15:14.10 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, I think android doesn't use such mechanisms either and still works |
| 15:14.13 | Bushman | (joke) |
| 15:14.25 | Bushman | anyway |
| 15:15.13 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Would be interesting to know what android does in a case where you have a call running and a SMS incoming. |
| 15:15.14 | Bushman | dcordes: anyone is actualy working on the HW keyboard bug or it's just left "as is" cause no one needs it? |
| 15:15.25 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: But anyway, the basics should work, yes |
| 15:15.47 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: As you have a extra channel for gprs this is also good. |
| 15:16.14 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, you can look that up for the omap modems in android git and I could email you the code used for vogue (msm7500, cdma) |
| 15:16.59 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Will try to have a look at the android git later. |
| 15:17.08 | dcordes | Bushman, I don't know. BabelO did work quite a lot with blueangel. ask him |
| 15:18.18 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Need to finish some other tasks right now. I'll come back to you how to best start testing on the kaiser the next days. Is this fine for you? |
| 15:18.49 | dcordes | yep just ping or email |
| 15:19.18 | Bushman | BabelO: you there? |
| 15:19.31 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/ril.git;a=summary the android userspace gsm server thing for g1 is binary only |
| 15:19.41 | dcordes | this is for some omap |
| 15:20.07 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Binary only? brr |
| 15:20.15 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Thanks for the link, will look later |
| 15:20.18 | dcordes | yes... |
| 15:20.23 | Bushman | anyway, what is the stage of the developement of the OS from the phone features point? |
| 15:22.01 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, oh the path is on serenity |
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| 16:58.55 | drasar | Hello. Is Blueangel's touchscreen working on 2.6.21-hh20 kernel? |
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| 17:08.41 | BabelO_ | drasar: yes |
| 17:12.17 | drasar | BabelO_: Great :) And what modules it uses? |
| 17:13.50 | BabelO_ | tsc2200.c tsc220_ts.c tsc2200_keys.c |
| 17:13.52 | BabelO_ | something like that |
| 17:13.56 | BabelO_ | i did not check |
| 17:14.26 | BabelO_ | drasar: and blueangel_ts.c , you can find other file in driver/mfd |
| 17:16.30 | drasar | I would like to port it to himalaya. It should use the same touchscreen so it shouln't be so hard, no? |
| 17:17.49 | tmzt | more hh.org support? maybe at least ts driver could be current so it will work on newer kernels as well. why is it in drivers/mfd not drivers/input/touchscreen? |
| 17:22.06 | drasar | BabelO_: There is no "blueangel_ts.c" file, so you probably mean "blueangel_tsc2200.c", right? |
| 17:22.49 | tmzt | ok, how different is blueangel_tsc2200 from tsc2200.c? |
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| 17:24.44 | tmzt | BabelO_: do you know if asic3 has a structure like, mask interrupts and sends one interrupt to pxa and has to read register to see which interrupt it is? |
| 17:25.43 | BabelO_ | drasar yes |
| 17:26.23 | BabelO_ | tmzt: drivers/mfd mean MutiFunctionnal driver, so it is at the right place . TSC2200 is used for backup battery / keys / ts |
| 17:26.53 | tmzt | oh, so it's not like tsc2008 or whichever on kaiser? |
| 17:27.02 | BabelO_ | tmzt: yes, look at drivers/mfd for asic3 all is in |
| 17:27.10 | tmzt | on hh.org? |
| 17:27.11 | BabelO_ | tmzt: no |
| 17:27.17 | BabelO_ | tmzt: yes |
| 17:27.21 | BabelO_ | bbl |
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| 17:31.47 | tmzt | drasar: where did you find that file? (blueangel_tsc2200.c)? |
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| 17:44.59 | Bushman | BabelO: dcordes told me you worked on blueangel |
| 17:45.11 | Bushman | is there any way to fix the HW keyboard bug? |
| 17:46.31 | Bushman | hmm... |
| 17:46.49 | Bushman | damn, he's AFK again -_-' |
| 17:54.12 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: might they be using qmi for cops? |
| 17:54.38 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: they use it for bringing up hspda at least |
| 17:55.00 | drasar | tmzt: arch/arm/mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel_tsc2200.c |
| 17:55.51 | tmzt | drasar: you are using defconfig from ba? |
| 17:56.33 | drasar | tmzt: no, himalaya defconfig |
| 17:56.43 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: qmi? |
| 17:57.05 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: qualcomm mux apparently, but over a seperate shared memory channel |
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| 17:57.17 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: not the smd0 used for at commands |
| 17:57.40 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: hmm, that would make sense |
| 17:57.43 | dcordes | tmzt, stefan_schmidt, I think qmi/rmnet is on the g1 only, not on the devices with the normal htc amss |
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| 17:58.01 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: Means they have mux. Just over shared-memory and not serial |
| 17:58.02 | tmzt | right, so we care more what WM is doing than g1 anyway |
| 17:58.16 | tmzt | but it would explain the lack of mux on g1 at channel |
| 17:58.28 | stefan_schmidt | hmm |
| 17:58.38 | stefan_schmidt | It would explain it. |
| 17:58.47 | dcordes | tmzt, where did you see that on the g1? |
| 17:58.52 | tmzt | dcordes: you have dumps of at commands though, anything like searching for networks? |
| 17:58.53 | dcordes | g1 ril is binary |
| 17:59.04 | dcordes | tmzt, I have no g1, nor am I working with it |
| 17:59.29 | tmzt | I didn't see that they used qmi for COPS, I only saw qmi in the kernel |
| 17:59.39 | dcordes | all the commands are from kaiser. also the discussions about the mux |
| 17:59.41 | tmzt | dcordes: I mean on kaiser |
| 17:59.42 | dcordes | ok that is g1 related only |
| 17:59.47 | dcordes | kaiser has no qmi |
| 17:59.53 | dcordes | it uses the serial channel for data connections |
| 18:00.20 | dcordes | or do I have a wrong udnerstand of what qmi is? |
| 18:00.31 | tmzt | dcordes: I mean in your dumps from kaiser, what do they do for COPS? |
| 18:01.10 | Bushman | WTF? |
| 18:01.47 | Bushman | i can't write on the on-screen keyboard cause it keeps acting like if i presed 'enter' key |
| 18:01.58 | dcordes | tmzt, for operator selection? |
| 18:02.03 | tmzt | dcordes: yes |
| 18:02.04 | Bushman | (i don't use HW keyboard since boot time) |
| 18:02.06 | dcordes | the COPS command is used |
| 18:02.16 | tmzt | so it just waits for it? |
| 18:02.24 | dcordes | uhm idk. only know it occurs |
| 18:02.27 | dcordes | but I have tons of logs |
| 18:02.39 | dcordes | what to look for exactly? |
| 18:02.48 | tmzt | can you puts those on lgorris if you can clean up numbers |
| 18:03.28 | Bushman | how do i shutdown it? (other than taking battery out?) |
| 18:03.49 | tmzt | Bushman: you have BA also? |
| 18:04.10 | Bushman | tmzt: yea |
| 18:04.36 | Bushman | T-mobile MDA III version |
| 18:06.00 | Bushman | and i can't even properly write shutdown or reboot cause it acts wierd |
| 18:07.17 | Bushman | i'v just got brand new touchscreen and i thought it will lost his virginity on some decent OS like linux |
| 18:08.11 | tmzt | Bushman: you are building from kernel26 source? |
| 18:08.28 | Bushman | i'm not building at all |
| 18:08.44 | dcordes | tmzt, ok I will clean a few sections |
| 18:08.48 | Bushman | just got the rootFS from one of the sites from howto |
| 18:09.01 | dcordes | tmzt, there already are some on the om devel |
| 18:10.42 | tmzt | have mostly memorized fx3 ssl exception process now |
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| 18:11.09 | tmzt | took about 10 seconds |
| 18:13.21 | tmzt | Bushman: would you be able to build kernel26 cvs with codesourcery? |
| 18:15.16 | Bushman | i would be able to build it IF someone would help me to setup dev enviroment |
| 18:15.59 | Bushman | wich tools do i need, can those be from debian repos or nevest versions from the author sites, etc... |
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| 18:16.07 | Bushman | *newest |
| 18:17.36 | Bushman | or an URL to some decent howto for dev enviroment |
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| 18:39.25 | NetRipper | cr2, do you know if SDcard is on SDC1/2/3 or 4? and where is wifi? |
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| 18:46.26 | kalemas | Hello i am trying to setup usb connection, but got output dmesg: usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 17 |
| 18:46.27 | kalemas | usb 2-2: device not accepting address 17, error -71 |
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| 18:57.50 | tmzt | kalemas: what device? |
| 18:58.00 | kalemas | tmzt: magician |
| 18:58.22 | tmzt | try unplugging/replugging the usb after booting |
| 18:58.30 | BabelO | kalemas: try to boot device with usb plugged on computer already |
| 18:58.37 | BabelO | :) |
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| 18:58.45 | tmzt | Bushman: sorry, got knocked off the computer which now won't boot from usb |
| 18:58.59 | tmzt | kalemas: that too |
| 18:58.59 | BabelO | Bushman: no i did not fix keyboard on ba |
| 18:59.39 | kalemas | ok , thank you |
| 18:59.49 | tmzt | Bushman: you really need the codesourcery.com free toolchain, extract that to /opt/ |
| 19:00.16 | tmzt | Bushman: I don't know if anything packaged for debian will work, I guess emdebian toolchain would if that is in apt |
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| 19:14.42 | cr2 | hi |
| 19:15.16 | cr2 | it seems that the log bot died ? |
| 19:15.29 | BabelO | hi cr2 |
| 19:15.45 | tmzt | cr2: hi, you said only asic3_mmc is missing or all of asic3 mfd on 2.6.26+? |
| 19:15.54 | BabelO | cr2: you kill it at midnight :) |
| 19:16.59 | cr2 | tmzt: the _mmc was a real showstopper for many devices |
| 19:17.22 | cr2 | BabelO: maybe ;) but it happened before i've left |
| 19:17.42 | cr2 | tmzt: does the "new" asic3_mmc work ? |
| 19:18.45 | tmzt | cr2: don't know, trying to find out what is stopping pxa devices from moving to a new kernel before trying to fix some touchscreen problems on hh.org |
| 19:19.22 | cr2 | pick the "new" kernel, compile it and try to run |
| 19:19.31 | tmzt | when ALo and I were working on keyboard for uni, you said the _mmc was broken and needed fixed first |
| 19:19.47 | cr2 | i think there were some compilation problems, but they were resolved ? |
| 19:20.08 | cr2 | yes, maybe. i don't remember now. |
| 19:20.12 | tmzt | ok, I don't have any htc pxa device, so I can't test those myself |
| 19:32.17 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:32.42 | cr2 | BabelO: can you check it ? |
| 19:32.58 | cr2 | i guess we need to find somebody with an uni |
| 19:33.13 | cr2 | i have an uni , but it's too much work for me :) |
| 19:33.15 | BabelO | cr2: ? |
| 19:33.38 | cr2 | BabelO: the new asic3_mmc |
| 19:33.58 | cr2 | if somebody will compile the linload.exe, i can try it. |
| 19:34.04 | BabelO | cr2: where ? :) i wait pH5, he say someone work on it |
| 19:34.55 | cr2 | heh. i can't even do cvs checkouts from sf.net. probably because of the firewall, so it's a real pita to work around the limitations |
| 19:35.10 | cr2 | BabelO: there was a full pathch for the uni |
| 19:35.13 | cr2 | ask tmzt |
| 19:35.23 | BabelO | cr2: the one at poki ? |
| 19:35.31 | cr2 | yes |
| 19:35.32 | tmzt | yeah |
| 19:35.36 | BabelO | but they did not apply, someone test it |
| 19:35.39 | tmzt | I think ALo tried it but I'm not sure |
| 19:35.55 | tmzt | he is focused on wifi as primary concern |
| 19:36.53 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:37.21 | cr2 | BabelO: have you tried g1 wifi driver on arte ? |
| 19:37.49 | BabelO | cr2: no, still playing with GT :) |
| 19:38.27 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:38.37 | cr2 | kiozen: here ? |
| 19:38.49 | kiozen | yes |
| 19:38.59 | dcordes | cr2, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM updated with commands found on kaiser |
| 19:39.39 | cr2 | kiozen: http://www.gesetze-im-internet.eu/satdsig/index.html |
| 19:40.18 | cr2 | dcordes: the problem was that the page was too long for xda-dev wiki |
| 19:40.36 | kiozen | oh my goodnes gracious me! |
| 19:40.38 | cr2 | dcordes: there is a newer (?) copy at hh.org |
| 19:40.43 | cr2 | LOL |
| 19:41.42 | dcordes | ein raumgestütztes Transport- oder Orbitalsystem, einschließlich des Bodensegments, mit dem Daten über die Erde erzeugt werden, soweit dessen Sensor oder Sensoren selbst oder in Kombination mit einem oder mehreren anderen Sensoren technisch in der Lage ist, Daten mit besonders hohem Informationsgehalt im Sinne von Absatz 2 zu erzeugen; |
| 19:41.45 | kiozen | all OSM supporters are terrorists |
| 19:41.55 | dcordes | =ein hochwertiges Erdfernerkundungssystem |
| 19:42.20 | dcordes | creepy. I didn't know I need permission for my spy satellite |
| 19:42.37 | kiozen | what do we learn: no hobby satelites for areal photography |
| 19:42.39 | SmallR2002 | i was told i was a 'damned commie' for supporting FOSS the other day |
| 19:42.51 | kiozen | we should tell the americans |
| 19:43.02 | SmallR2002 | haha |
| 19:44.18 | tmzt | dcordes: can't find your mail on om-devel now |
| 19:44.20 | SmallR2002 | incidentally, any progress on the hermes android/linux port? |
| 19:45.00 | SmallR2002 | checks threads |
| 19:45.13 | dcordes | tmzt, just look for msm http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-November/subject.html |
| 19:45.40 | tmzt | ok |
| 19:46.19 | BabelO | what Erdfernerkundungsdaten mean ? |
| 19:46.25 | BabelO | picture ? |
| 19:46.31 | dcordes | BabelO, spysat |
| 19:46.46 | SmallR2002 | BabelO, you trying to read it too? |
| 19:46.51 | dcordes | spysat data actually |
| 19:47.06 | BabelO | ok, google translate works well on url , but this word is obfuscated :) |
| 19:47.33 | dcordes | Erdfernerkundungssystem= distant earth suveying system; Erdfernerkundungsdaten= distant earth suveying data (don't know the correct english language terms) |
| 19:47.56 | tmzt | telemetry? |
| 19:49.12 | SmallR2002 | remote topographic survey system? |
| 19:49.37 | cr2 | kiozen: OSM is not remote sensing. it's in-situ measurement |
| 19:50.50 | dcordes | running a spysat without permission is not a crime it seems, only a minor breach of the law |
| 19:50.52 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.freenews.fr/nat/6369-societe-free-assigne-pour-violation-presumee-de-la-licence-gnu-gpl.html |
| 19:50.59 | cr2 | dcordes: Fernerkundung=Remote sensing |
| 19:54.36 | tmzt | dcordes: SanMehat gave you +++, so I guess that is how you escape from ppp? |
| 19:55.13 | dcordes | tmzt, I'm still wondering what +++ implied there |
| 19:55.35 | tmzt | normally it escapes a data session and returns to AT mode |
| 19:55.49 | tmzt | but it doesn't always work with ppp on all modems |
| 19:57.21 | dcordes | tmzt, I don't see it in the kaiser wince atdbg log |
| 19:57.36 | cr2 | BabelO: wow, 25 pages |
| 19:58.14 | BabelO | cr2: just to say that my internet provider have problem with iptable / busybox developers :) |
| 20:03.01 | cr2 | BabelO: the claims are interesting in itself |
| 20:04.01 | tmzt | dcordes: did you find out what AT+HTCmaskW1 is? |
| 20:04.09 | dcordes | tmzt, no |
| 20:05.32 | dcordes | I'm xxxing some logs where I documented what happened |
| 20:06.16 | tmzt | was the xxxxxx,xxxxxx a phone number or something you recognized? |
| 20:06.30 | dcordes | in which log? |
| 20:06.43 | tmzt | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM |
| 20:06.51 | tmzt | htcmaskw1 |
| 20:07.42 | cr2 | tmzt: there are many lowlevel commands, you'll probbaly never understand the real purpose :) |
| 20:07.57 | dcordes | tmzt, two 6 digit numbers sperated by the comma |
| 20:08.02 | tmzt | do you get any messages like ASSERT CD/DEASSERT CD or RI or anything else? |
| 20:08.36 | tmzt | I think W1 means something in Hayes but I can't remember what |
| 20:08.41 | dcordes | no ASSERT strings |
| 20:09.15 | dcordes | cr2, there is not too much mysterious stuff I think |
| 20:09.18 | cr2 | tmzt: it's something umts related |
| 20:09.33 | cr2 | dcordes: the at@ commands |
| 20:09.56 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, you can just run stinrgs on the g1 lib*ril.so |
| 20:10.18 | cr2 | to get the sensible g1 list |
| 20:10.32 | dcordes | cr2, ok I still have the filesystem somewhere. did you know the sources are not available? |
| 20:11.05 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, what's the eten m800 status ? |
| 20:11.24 | dcordes | cr2, 1sec |
| 20:11.36 | dcordes | laf0rge put quite some stuff together |
| 20:11.38 | Kensan | cr2: see gnufiish.org |
| 20:11.49 | dcordes | right.. thanks |
| 20:11.59 | kalemas | I still trying to usb connect. Nothing changed, boot plugged and plugged on linux up, hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2. |
| 20:11.59 | kalemas | Also i have a qustion, in Key and Buttons Setup there is a message o button configuration available for this device. There is some setup for magician is neccesary, or maybe something wrong with my build? Virtual keyboard also inserts a wrong characters... |
| 20:12.10 | tmzt | cr2: that is going in openezx I think? I see it mentioned there |
| 20:12.41 | Kensan | cr2: some more info: http://wiki.openezx.org/Glofiish_X800 |
| 20:13.16 | cr2 | hehe |
| 20:13.19 | cr2 | I also wrote some perl script that uses haret TRACE capability to reconstruct the I2C command/response stream. |
| 20:13.40 | cr2 | somebody shall tell Harald about the MMUTRACE |
| 20:14.13 | cr2 | the i2c protocol parser will be very useful the the raph keyboard and navi. |
| 20:14.19 | cr2 | and for the cam too. |
| 20:14.59 | cr2 | "The problem with this, though: The I2C bus runs too fast, so it loses some bytes. " |
| 20:15.06 | tmzt | cr2: how would that trace work? I want to find my usb transceiver |
| 20:15.16 | tmzt | and charging chip |
| 20:15.18 | cr2 | never seen such problem with MMUTRACE |
| 20:15.42 | cr2 | TRACE is polling the register |
| 20:16.24 | dcordes | tmzt, according to http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/gsm/at+c.html the second option of CRSM is fileid. what is that? |
| 20:16.35 | cr2 | MMUTRACE is a more intelligent way, that installs the irq+page fault handler |
| 20:16.36 | tmzt | sim file |
| 20:16.57 | dcordes | tmzt, identifying a file in the sim card's filesystem? |
| 20:17.13 | tmzt | sim stuff should be standard, mickeyl was just worried about being able to get events when reading sim and things like that |
| 20:17.28 | tmzt | I think so, I believe all the data on the sim has a file number |
| 20:17.46 | dcordes | ok so what is the problem with simultaneous actions here? |
| 20:18.08 | dcordes | I don't get the whole point. is this problem specific to the ti calypso modem? |
| 20:18.30 | tmzt | I think the atchannel code in android ril would work, since it is supposed to detect the unsolicited (events) and parse them out from everything else |
| 20:18.44 | tmzt | it's generic to rild, not the actual ril I think |
| 20:18.54 | dcordes | well it does work on the vogue. |
| 20:19.04 | tmzt | the problem is that AT was designed for modems that only did one thing at a time |
| 20:19.19 | tmzt | they could call a number, talk to the remote end, then +++ and ATH to hang up |
| 20:19.22 | dcordes | ok so the problem is only about the unsolicited events? |
| 20:19.54 | tmzt | there was no wireless network which has events that can occur at anytime, such as a new cell site or network appearing or disappearing |
| 20:20.11 | tmzt | this is made worse by adding things like read/write commands for the sim cards |
| 20:20.48 | dcordes | ok I see |
| 20:21.12 | tetsuo\0 | my universal won't boot anymore :( |
| 20:21.23 | tmzt | the solution on most gsm devices, and in the standard is to create multiple channels for data between the terminal equipment (the part of the cell modem that talks to the air) and the mobile station (the part that implememnts a normal cell phones user interface) |
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| 20:21.57 | tmzt | there is a standard for this, called ts0710, which is based on the framing (hdlc) used on high-speed serial links |
| 20:22.24 | dcordes | on the mms7* arm9 is terminal equipment, arm11 is mobile station? |
| 20:22.25 | tmzt | but with special additions for waking up the other end (or something like that), and different error detection |
| 20:22.35 | dcordes | s/mms/msm/ |
| 20:22.36 | tmzt | basically |
| 20:22.44 | cr2 | tmzt: htc does not use any mux since calypso |
| 20:22.59 | tmzt | msm is mobile station modem |
| 20:23.04 | cr2 | and ts0710 was implemented only on the a780* familay |
| 20:23.09 | tmzt | cr2: right, just trying to explain it |
| 20:23.30 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:23.52 | tmzt | cr2: why the lack of mux is a problem, though I'm not sure what htc does, aren't all the older devices calypso or similar (except cdma)? |
| 20:24.00 | tmzt | and hermes which is 3g, right? |
| 20:24.46 | tmzt | dcordes: I mean msm means mobile station modem, because it was used in simple phones and implmented both parts in one chip |
| 20:24.53 | dcordes | tmzt, is this the hdlc framing you mentioned? http://www.erg.abdn.ac.uk/users/gorry/course/dl-pages/hdlc-framing.html |
| 20:25.16 | dcordes | tmzt, ok that makes sense |
| 20:25.22 | BabelO | cr2: what is the best algorithm for routing for you ? |
| 20:25.32 | tmzt | dcordes: it's one version, ppp uses another for instance |
| 20:26.16 | tmzt | if you start pppd on a console you see a lot of ~, which I think is used as the flag |
| 20:26.22 | cr2 | BabelO: where ? |
| 20:26.51 | cr2 | BabelO: X800 has si4700 i2c |
| 20:27.01 | cr2 | and ak4641 |
| 20:27.08 | BabelO | cr2: i see there is A* or djkrajs something like that :) |
| 20:27.12 | dcordes | tmzt, ok that is too complex now. I still don't understand 100% how htc gets rid of the muxing. |
| 20:27.13 | BabelO | second is used by navit |
| 20:27.37 | BabelO | cr2: si4700 :) need to finish that too |
| 20:27.43 | tmzt | dcordes: I don't know how they do either, which is what mickeyl was wondering |
| 20:28.34 | dcordes | tmzt, don't we have everyting we need from the at chats? |
| 20:28.55 | dcordes | or is the abstraction of which we wanna know how it works below that? |
| 20:29.01 | tmzt | you don't know where those AT commands are being sent, but I guess they are all on one channel |
| 20:29.21 | dcordes | I also think so because there is only the smd0 |
| 20:29.30 | tmzt | if it works for windows it can be made to work, unless something underneath (ril?) is rerouting them |
| 20:29.40 | cr2 | BabelO: dijkstra |
| 20:29.43 | dcordes | ok. can't we track it down in the android userspace? |
| 20:30.00 | dcordes | tmzt, do you still have the ril code I emailed you? |
| 20:30.05 | cr2 | BabelO: check the gnufiish git repo at openezx.org |
| 20:30.41 | tmzt | you want to look at sim reading/writing and changing/searching for networks |
| 20:31.17 | dcordes | ok so basically do in android, what AT debug does in wince? |
| 20:31.45 | dcordes | won't that end up with the 1:1 log files ? |
| 20:31.54 | tmzt | probably add debugging to rild, maybe right a wrapper/proxy for the htc ril so |
| 20:32.12 | tmzt | which is why I asked if dzo had one from his original effort |
| 20:32.45 | tmzt | dcordes: do in android? |
| 20:33.15 | tmzt | oh, yes |
| 20:33.39 | dcordes | sorry I know my constructions confuse ppl |
| 20:34.17 | dcordes | again, don't we have everything needed with the dzo ril sources? |
| 20:34.31 | dcordes | or is the important part still a binary in the android rootfs? |
| 20:34.32 | tmzt | I thought you meant use the same commands that you find it the windows atdbg log in an android reference_ril |
| 20:35.06 | tmzt | what I am saying is, call the htc ril as if you where android, and print the outputs/devices (strace type) it uses |
| 20:35.19 | tmzt | or, maybe you can strace rild, but it might be too slow |
| 20:36.02 | tmzt | but, as cr2 said, strings would be a good place to start, not just for AT commands but also /dev/ files |
| 20:36.19 | dcordes | ok let me start then |
| 20:40.02 | Marajin | Ah the joy of sodomizing windows visciously |
| 20:40.40 | Marajin | Fed up of vista on my UMPC/tablet so I'm going to try XP Tablet, turns out that's on 2CDs AND it doesn't want to boot, so I'm slipstreaming and whatnot just to see what I can do heh |
| 20:41.01 | dcordes | install debian |
| 20:41.36 | Marajin | It has linux on it |
| 20:41.37 | Marajin | frankly.. |
| 20:41.43 | Marajin | it still has issues |
| 20:42.06 | Marajin | it runs alright but wireless performance is shocking |
| 20:42.15 | dcordes | what about the touchscrene problem? |
| 20:42.20 | Marajin | and the problems it has with video playback are insane |
| 20:42.27 | Marajin | hmm? Oh I fixed the TS long ago |
| 20:42.47 | Marajin | at least in terms of it does actually register taps pretty accurately now |
| 20:43.17 | Marajin | OFC none of the general linux desktops actually work worth a damn for a tablet format :p |
| 20:43.53 | tmzt | Marajin: what's the wireless? |
| 20:44.11 | Marajin | Oh now you're asking.. RL78 or something |
| 20:44.14 | Marajin | 79 maybe |
| 20:47.28 | Marajin | some internal usb interface meh |
| 20:49.31 | tmzt | you have xp tablet or just xp? |
| 20:51.29 | Marajin | I have the XP Tablet discs |
| 20:51.35 | Marajin | it came with vista |
| 20:53.33 | dcordes | what is GTKR GTKI ? |
| 20:53.58 | dcordes | I think I'm looking at the wrong command reference table http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/gsm/at+c.html |
| 20:54.44 | dcordes | GTKN also |
| 20:56.26 | dcordes | AT@v;+RADIOVER\r |
| 20:56.45 | dcordes | 1.71.09.01\r\n+RADIOVER: 25.75.40.02.eMoH\r\n0\r |
| 20:56.46 | Marajin | 1.0k-1358-3519 (ignore this, it's just convient for me to note a version string here at the moment) |
| 20:57.34 | dcordes | Marajin, huh? |
| 20:59.41 | Marajin | it's a version string for something I'm doing, ignore it |
| 21:00.12 | dcordes | ok |
| 21:00.28 | tmzt | dcordes: those groups of letters are the different modem cards I think |
| 21:01.35 | dcordes | tmzt, eMoH or the x in GTKx ? |
| 21:01.43 | dcordes | oh groups you say.. |
| 21:01.48 | tmzt | dcordes: have you tried AT+CMUX=? |
| 21:02.05 | tmzt | no, I'm trying to figure out eMoH |
| 21:02.15 | dcordes | yes quite a while ago when I first talked to mickey about this thing. it's not recognized. |
| 21:02.24 | tmzt | ok |
| 21:02.36 | tmzt | have you tried voice calls in android? |
| 21:03.08 | dcordes | yes theye work with the old (0.8) ramdisk dzo put for the vogue |
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| 21:03.39 | dcordes | also people report they get networking using it on the kaiser, but only when they are in a 3g area |
| 21:03.57 | dcordes | I never reconstructed that personally |
| 21:04.21 | dcordes | infernix, where can I get the full shipped g1 rootfs? |
| 21:04.56 | Marajin | dcordes: dunno seems pretty consistent with how mine behaved |
| 21:05.01 | Marajin | under android |
| 21:05.10 | Marajin | under console linux it worked in GPRS/EDGE just fine |
| 21:05.34 | dcordes | yea I also used the gprs in angstrom kaiser |
| 21:06.28 | dcordes | consistent meaning net works with both, gprs and 3g in android 0.8 rootfs? |
| 21:06.51 | tmzt | do you use +CBST to make data calls on gprs? |
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| 21:08.35 | dcordes | tmzt, no CBST here |
| 21:08.53 | dcordes | tmzt, I can email you the documented logs in a few |
| 21:09.23 | tmzt | more asking about on linux/android, to see what you can do from minicom or whatever |
| 21:09.31 | dcordes | if you mind having a look |
| 21:09.56 | dcordes | I can boot linux later and try it. but it's not in wince logs |
| 21:10.21 | tmzt | I think that's for something else (older) |
| 21:11.21 | dcordes | Bearer service type |
| 21:11.21 | tmzt | you have which fso installed on kaiser? |
| 21:11.33 | dcordes | none so far |
| 21:11.35 | tmzt | right, but it's mostly CSD stuff I think |
| 21:12.05 | dcordes | what does CSD/HSCSD mean? |
| 21:12.06 | tmzt | I am working with debian armel and pkg-fso, I just don't like building packages if I don't have to |
| 21:12.22 | tmzt | cell switched data/high-speed cell switched data |
| 21:12.38 | tmzt | basically, analog modem speeds over cellular |
| 21:12.57 | dcordes | ok that would care about the dependencies and one can update the fso tree manually from git |
| 21:13.09 | dcordes | did you do any work in fso with your devices? |
| 21:13.17 | tmzt | what? |
| 21:13.35 | tmzt | oh, you mean it will have all the libraries already |
| 21:13.40 | dcordes | yea |
| 21:13.54 | tmzt | I guess you could build on the device or with qemubuilder |
| 21:13.56 | dcordes | the whole python stuff and everything else it needs |
| 21:14.01 | tmzt | yes |
| 21:14.45 | tmzt | trying to find a way to build a armel root without and armv5t device, I used my mp900c to build it in jlime, the copied it to a tar |
| 21:14.55 | dcordes | I guess best is to build fso-console-image . did that the other day. kaiser kernel is broken in OE |
| 21:15.06 | dcordes | need to sort that |
| 21:15.13 | tmzt | you can use an older zImage though? |
| 21:15.54 | dcordes | yes sure but the image won't build without kernel and it must be fixed in OE git anyway |
| 21:16.02 | tmzt | that reminded me, I need to try +CFUN on cdma, see if I can drop MUX |
| 21:16.26 | dcordes | cfun is used on kaiser |
| 21:16.51 | tmzt | for? enabling/disabling modem (airplane mode)? |
| 21:17.31 | dcordes | yea it seems to be used in such situations |
| 21:17.45 | tmzt | so CFUN=0 for off CFUN=1 for on? |
| 21:17.54 | dcordes | (switching radio on/off, switching between 3g and non3g mode etc) |
| 21:18.05 | dcordes | comes with creg and so most of the time |
| 21:18.15 | dcordes | I think there are more than 0 and 1 |
| 21:18.39 | tmzt | yes, don't think the other two are used (rx off tx off) |
| 21:19.41 | dcordes | ok sorry, I can only see CFUN 0 and 1 |
| 21:19.57 | dcordes | confused it with CREG=3 which is in the context often |
| 21:24.27 | Bushman | tmzt: anything else besides the toolchain you mentioned before? |
| 21:25.40 | Bushman | BabelO: have you managed to make phone calls from it? |
| 21:26.06 | tmzt | not for kernel, if you want to build everything you need bitbake and oe |
| 21:26.10 | BabelO | Bushman: yes with my qtopia image |
| 21:26.28 | BabelO | Bushman: better is Alge gpe image |
| 21:26.46 | tmzt | I am going to post my initfs.img to allow booting from sd card wthout the need to build kernel with oe |
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| 21:28.19 | dcordes | tmzt, is it a normal behaviour that the same file (with blank/FFFFF.. content) from sim is read out in a loop? |
| 21:29.34 | Bushman | BabelO: did you have any image that enabled you to use phone (out of the box) and connect via wifi ? |
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| 21:31.15 | BabelO | Bushman: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ |
| 21:31.17 | Bushman | tmzt: question No1 - why do YOU want ME to build it? |
| 21:31.41 | Bushman | BabelO: this one should work, huh? |
| 21:31.59 | BabelO | yes it works for me |
| 21:32.59 | Bushman | ok, i'll take a look at this one ;] |
| 21:34.05 | Bushman | can i use the bootloader from other distros? |
| 21:34.13 | Bushman | or should i replace all the files |
| 21:34.19 | tmzt | you can use haret |
| 21:34.28 | Bushman | ok, cool ;] |
| 21:34.55 | tmzt | the reason is I can see the code on cvs.handhelds.org and I want to know if that works, then maybe we can find what is causing the ts problem |
| 21:35.18 | tmzt | if you use a zImage I don't know what code (revision) was used to make it |
| 21:36.20 | tmzt | or was there something else wrong with the image you were using, what was your original question? |
| 21:37.09 | Bushman | mine? |
| 21:37.15 | Bushman | HW keybord bug |
| 21:37.36 | Bushman | wich is "known" bug acording to dcordes |
| 21:38.07 | Bushman | damn, card slot won't work -_-' |
| 21:38.17 | Bushman | i hate this acer crap |
| 21:38.46 | tmzt | ok, you have device with full qwerty keyboard? |
| 21:38.55 | Bushman | yup |
| 21:39.38 | Bushman | this MDA III a.k.a. qtek 9090 |
| 21:40.28 | Bushman | SD slot won't work, need to reboot and see if that will help |
| 21:43.29 | dcordes | CME ERROR: 14 |
| 21:45.15 | tmzt | dcordes: from? |
| 21:45.46 | dcordes | arm9 as reply to AT+CNUM\r |
| 21:46.37 | tmzt | +CME ERROR: or CME EROOR: ? |
| 21:47.20 | dcordes | Tx:AT+CNUM\r |
| 21:47.20 | dcordes | Rx:+CME ERROR: 14\r |
| 21:48.21 | tmzt | ok, can you try AT+CMEE=0 |
| 21:48.29 | tmzt | then try AT+CNUM again? |
| 21:48.57 | Bushman | some modem stuff? |
| 21:49.03 | tmzt | yes |
| 21:49.32 | Bushman | to high for me :P |
| 21:49.40 | dcordes | ok noted, I will try commands later. how can I use sed or so to replace a complete line containing a string? |
| 21:49.56 | tmzt | complete line? |
| 21:50.06 | Bushman | i'm more like guinepig, you can test it on me but don't ask me to code it :P |
| 21:50.11 | tmzt | I think ^ and $ |
| 21:50.34 | tmzt | Bushman: no problem. |
| 21:50.36 | dcordes | tmzt, yes like replacing each line which has "Rx:+CRSM" through xx |
| 21:50.50 | Bushman | ok, extracted new root FS, let's see how does it looks ;] |
| 21:50.53 | dcordes | with |
| 21:51.06 | tmzt | I just use gedit |
| 21:51.20 | tmzt | simple and CUA |
| 21:51.56 | tmzt | you mean starts with Rx:+CRSM ? |
| 21:52.08 | dcordes | I use it now. I know how to replace string1 with string2 |
| 21:52.17 | dcordes | but not what I want to do it |
| 21:52.22 | dcordes | no it starts with the timestamp.. |
| 21:52.35 | tmzt | I think ^Rx\:\+CRSM(.+)$ |
| 21:52.44 | Bushman | i think i'v done something wrong |
| 21:52.48 | tmzt | more fun |
| 21:53.01 | dcordes | that's in sed ? |
| 21:53.07 | tmzt | yes |
| 21:53.19 | Bushman | donno why but it's loading the angstrom again ;/ |
| 21:53.24 | tmzt | it won't work with the timestamp |
| 21:53.32 | tmzt | Bushman: what do you mean? |
| 21:53.39 | Bushman | no, wait... it says Qtopia in the console now :P |
| 21:53.58 | Bushman | tmzt: oh nothing, just got confused by splashscreen |
| 21:54.52 | Bushman | anyway, guys is there any software method to change the LCD's contrast? |
| 21:55.15 | Bushman | my LCD is wierd, i have to look at it from below to see in proper color shades |
| 21:55.27 | Bushman | otherwise green is almost black |
| 21:55.37 | tmzt | does it work in wm? |
| 21:56.10 | Bushman | same |
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| 21:56.27 | Bushman | i had no linux befor today :P |
| 21:56.29 | dcordes | tmzt, like sed -i s/'^Rx\:\+CRSM(.+)$'/xxxx/ in.txt ? |
| 21:56.30 | tmzt | you replaced the lcd? |
| 21:56.32 | Bushman | (on my mobile) |
| 21:56.50 | Bushman | tmzt: probably the previous owner did |
| 21:56.55 | tmzt | dcordes: right, but still ^ means beginning of line |
| 21:57.22 | tmzt | you could replace all lines with +CRSM in them though |
| 21:57.40 | tmzt | probably ^.+CRSM.*$ |
| 21:57.49 | tmzt | probably ^.+CRSM.+$ |
| 21:58.04 | dcordes | but that still assumes at the beginning of line? |
| 21:58.38 | Bushman | BabelO: i'v loaded the image you've posted... "no network" on the center of the screen and can't do anything |
| 21:59.14 | Bushman | 4 buttons on the screen are clickable with stylus but don't perform anything |
| 22:00.27 | BabelO | Bushman: you have sim card in device ? |
| 22:00.36 | Bushman | sure |
| 22:00.50 | BabelO | hmm |
| 22:00.58 | BabelO | which zImag do you have ? |
| 22:01.02 | Bushman | wait, do i have to replace the zimage too? :P |
| 22:01.03 | BabelO | the one from my link too ? |
| 22:01.12 | Bushman | lol, my bad :D |
| 22:01.12 | BabelO | yes zImage is the kernel ! |
| 22:01.12 | dcordes | tmzt, you know AT+ALS ? |
| 22:01.20 | BabelO | :) |
| 22:02.08 | tmzt | no |
| 22:02.23 | tmzt | but I'm looking at the same page you are |
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| 22:03.05 | tmzt | you could replace all lines with +CRSM in them though |
| 22:03.15 | tmzt | probably ^.+CRSM.+$ |
| 22:03.48 | tmzt | so it finds all the lines with CRSM in them, .+ means any character, at least zero |
| 22:04.05 | tmzt | (if that's the right command of course) |
| 22:04.35 | tmzt | you need to escape + with \+ twice unless quoted in the shell |
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| 22:05.34 | dcordes | think I'm slowly wrapping my head about how this works |
| 22:05.53 | dcordes | the AT conversations |
| 22:06.03 | dcordes | I replaced the lines manually now in gedit |
| 22:08.04 | Bushman | is it like the old fashion analogue modems? |
| 22:16.55 | esteban | hello everybody ! |
| 22:17.35 | dcordes | tmzt, all of the sim phone book and sms stuff seems 100% standard |
| 22:18.03 | tmzt | you have timestamps, right? |
| 22:18.05 | tmzt | seconds |
| 22:18.11 | dcordes | yes I left them |
| 22:18.56 | dcordes | the sim phonebook is read out in 1 second |
| 22:19.00 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: hi |
| 22:19.09 | dcordes | hey again stefan_schmidt |
| 22:19.14 | stefan_schmidt | hi dcordes |
| 22:19.25 | Bushman | hmm... |
| 22:19.31 | tmzt | probably ^.+CRSM.+$ |
| 22:19.34 | tmzt | what |
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| 22:19.55 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: You are working hard on all the AT commands I hear. Great. :) |
| 22:19.56 | Bushman | how to enable the suspend button in qtopia BabelO ? |
| 22:20.00 | esteban | does anyone heve a Hermes ? |
| 22:20.12 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.14 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.25 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.26 | tmzt | 18:10 < tmzt> seconds |
| 22:20.40 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.40 | tmzt | 18:11 < dcordes> the sim phonebook is read out in 1 second |
| 22:20.52 | BabelO | Bushman: should work with one quick pressure i think |
| 22:21.09 | dcordes | tmzt, yes there are timestamps with seconds. and I did not remove them |
| 22:21.17 | stefan_schmidt | ok, phone book and sms standard is good |
| 22:21.44 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Have you seen any commands related to call-progress-indication (cpi)? |
| 22:21.48 | tmzt | stefan_schmidt: you disable unsolicited and CME errors when you don't want them? |
| 22:22.00 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: TI Calypso has special ones for them %cpi |
| 22:22.04 | Bushman | BabelO: nope, short does nothing, long propose shutdown or reboot |
| 22:22.10 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, all commands I can find in that context can be found here http://gatling.ikk.sztaki.hu/~kissg/gsm/at+c.html#27.07general |
| 22:22.16 | Bushman | and more :D |
| 22:22.25 | Bushman | i'v just tested the phone app |
| 22:22.42 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: ok, less non-standard is better for us. :) |
| 22:22.51 | Bushman | it said it's disconnected while i could still hear the dial tone :D |
| 22:23.02 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: Normally we have a dedicated channel for unsolicited |
| 22:23.12 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: CME erros stay. |
| 22:23.18 | dcordes | tmzt, when the radio is turned on after a while of airplane mode, a huge seuqnece of command is sent in one line. is that an "init" sequence ? |
| 22:23.23 | Bushman | (or ring tone or whaever you call the tone that you here when the other side is ringing :P ) |
| 22:23.31 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: We fight with some nice one atm on the calypso. :) |
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| 22:24.16 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, what is CME 14 ? |
| 22:24.42 | tmzt | on AT+CNUM |
| 22:24.52 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: oh, no idea. Have to look it up. mickey and alphone know a lot of them. /me not :) |
| 22:25.36 | esteban | hummmmmmmmmm |
| 22:25.56 | esteban | no one ? [personne n'as un Hermes?] |
| 22:26.02 | stefan_schmidt | brb |
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| 22:26.36 | Kensan | dcordes: http://www.activxperts.com/xmstoolkit/sms/gsmerrorcodes/ |
| 22:26.45 | dcordes | tmzt, did you copy/download the zip? |
| 22:26.51 | Kensan | dcordes: SIM busy |
| 22:27.00 | dcordes | s/tmzt/stefan_schmidt/ |
| 22:27.43 | dcordes | Kensan, thanks |
| 22:28.02 | dcordes | Kensan, added to AT link collection |
| 22:28.11 | dcordes | also had a 30 |
| 22:28.38 | Bushman | ahhh... i think it's a good time to build RS232 interface for my BA |
| 22:28.41 | Bushman | ^_^ |
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| 22:30.10 | stefan_schmidt | Kensan: You are everywhere, right? |
| 22:30.32 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: well so it seems :) |
| 22:31.16 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: not yet |
| 22:31.28 | Bushman | is the ttyS0 working ok in this linux distro? |
| 22:31.32 | dcordes | what is +GTKN +GTKR +GTKI ? |
| 22:31.39 | Bushman | i mean on those mobile phones |
| 22:31.49 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: unfortunately I am not really contributing :( so it's more just reading etc... |
| 22:31.58 | tmzt | Bushman: for? |
| 22:32.02 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: hmm, +G smells like vendor commands |
| 22:32.07 | dcordes | Bushman, yes it works on the blueangel. you can make calls well in qtopia |
| 22:32.30 | Bushman | dcordes: forget the calls now :P |
| 22:32.30 | dcordes | Bushman, you can play with it manually using programs like minicom or cu |
| 22:32.34 | stefan_schmidt | Kensan: Well you already send a patch for boot_usb which got applied :) |
| 22:32.41 | Bushman | is the serial port accesible without problems? |
| 22:32.49 | Bushman | ahhh |
| 22:32.53 | stefan_schmidt | Kensan: Reading is the step before doing more. Always needed |
| 22:32.54 | Bushman | so minicom will work |
| 22:32.57 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: heh after it got a good beating. |
| 22:33.00 | Bushman | nice ;] |
| 22:33.11 | stefan_schmidt | Kensan: heh, quite normal |
| 22:33.29 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: yes, I just lack large enough time slots... |
| 22:33.52 | stefan_schmidt | Kensan: Kick other stuff from your agenda ;) |
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| 22:34.10 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: I try... tough one. |
| 22:34.21 | Bushman | and that's what i'll need, a minicom (or maybe something nicer ported later) and RS232 <-> TTL converter ;] |
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| 22:34.40 | stefan_schmidt | hi mickeyl |
| 22:34.43 | tmzt | Bushman: what are you trying to do? |
| 22:34.48 | mickeyl | yo |
| 22:34.48 | Kensan | stefan_schmidt: so much to do, so little time... but I guess everybody in here knows *sigh* |
| 22:34.51 | dcordes | Kensan, you have an answer to +GTK? in your magic box of urls ? |
| 22:35.03 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Have a moment? Or better later? |
| 22:35.05 | Bushman | tmzt: today? nothing much... |
| 22:35.12 | Bushman | tmzt: but in future |
| 22:35.19 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: now is good. what's up?= |
| 22:35.20 | Kensan | dcordes: well I pipe your questions to google while adding some of my own keywords ;) Sometimes I get lucky |
| 22:35.30 | Kensan | dcordes: not for the GTK |
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| 22:35.35 | Bushman | if this linux'o'phone will work well, i'd like to have a serial console |
| 22:35.52 | Bushman | tmzt: cause i build my toys with RS232 interface |
| 22:35.55 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: As dcordes and you are both here I would like to get you together for some first steps with ogsmd on Kaiser |
| 22:35.56 | dcordes | Kensan, maybe it notifies the modem which gui toolkit you are using now ;) |
| 22:36.06 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: ogsmd can run on one signle line, right? |
| 22:36.11 | Kensan | dcordes: hm that would be ncurses then... |
| 22:36.12 | mickeyl | in theory yes |
| 22:36.13 | dcordes | mickeyl, yo :) |
| 22:36.16 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Even without muxing |
| 22:36.26 | Bushman | and it's easier to play with things with something smaller and portable than 15" laptop |
| 22:36.26 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Bad feature wise, though |
| 22:36.29 | mickeyl | in practice, singleline has received 0 testing |
| 22:36.38 | mickeyl | call handling for sure is broken in singleline |
| 22:36.41 | dcordes | somebody write the ncurses interface to fso/ogsmd |
| 22:36.42 | mickeyl | and needs to be backported from Calypso |
| 22:36.49 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: ok, good to know in advance |
| 22:37.08 | mickeyl | and needs to be ported over to using +CCLC to synthesize call progress |
| 22:37.12 | mickeyl | _if_ the MSM is missing htese |
| 22:37.16 | Bushman | tmzt: besides my laptop has no serial ports :P |
| 22:37.39 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/ril.git;a=tree |
| 22:37.41 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: You mean the %cpi stuff from calypso? |
| 22:37.42 | tmzt | atchannel.c |
| 22:37.46 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: correct |
| 22:37.54 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: ok |
| 22:37.54 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: without %cpi, you need to rely on +CLCC |
| 22:38.03 | dcordes | tmzt, that is for an OMAP modem, not msm. |
| 22:38.07 | mickeyl | which gives you the details status for all calls |
| 22:38.09 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: What dcordes is doing right now is to gather all AT commands he can find. |
| 22:38.10 | mickeyl | but only on request |
| 22:38.26 | stefan_schmidt | Next would be to get the signle line running, right? |
| 22:38.30 | dcordes | tmzt, I know you know, just to avoid confusion |
| 22:38.45 | stefan_schmidt | Means, backporting fixes first... |
| 22:38.52 | dcordes | mickeyl, the single line modem code in fso seems to me like it doesn't do much ? |
| 22:39.09 | mickeyl | dcordes: it doesn't need to. all the hard work is done in the mediators |
| 22:39.25 | mickeyl | and most of these are modem independent |
| 22:39.27 | mickeyl | :D |
| 22:39.30 | tmzt | dcordes: I know, but swetland said there was OMAP stuff in there, not that it was only for OMAP, I also know they don't use it on g1 instead a htc binary version |
| 22:39.49 | stefan_schmidt | tmzt: atchannel.c is about what? |
| 22:39.50 | dcordes | mickeyl, ok great. the whole sim management seems very standard on kaiser |
| 22:40.24 | mickeyl | dcordes: good. take a look at the calypso, more or less the only thing different from abstract is the additional unsolicited commands |
| 22:40.27 | dcordes | tmzt, yes. if you look at dzo's ril I mailed, you see that it really bases on the omap ril |
| 22:40.38 | tmzt | dcordes also has timestamps for everything down to the second, so I guess that means we can know what blocks/waits for response |
| 22:40.38 | mickeyl | on neptune i need to patch more, since it's pretty non-standard |
| 22:40.46 | mickeyl | i expect the htc to be better in that regard |
| 22:41.04 | Kensan | good night all |
| 22:41.07 | Kensan | happy hacking |
| 22:41.10 | stefan_schmidt | night Kensan |
| 22:41.11 | mickeyl | to ease your getting started, i should spend some time bringing singleline at least to a point where it launches |
| 22:41.16 | dcordes | mickeyl, I already dumped some commands here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM at the bottom |
| 22:41.29 | dcordes | mickeyl, that would be great |
| 22:41.33 | dcordes | Kensan, good night |
| 22:41.42 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Would be great if you could do this. The rest of the hard work will be dcordes's ;) |
| 22:41.45 | Bushman | tmzt: what are you guys working on atm? |
| 22:41.45 | mickeyl | dcordes: *sigh* i was afraid of that :) |
| 22:41.46 | esteban | hey i just wan't to begin linux dev' i own a Hermes HT. can someone give me some documentation ? or instruction on how do i find info an embebed dev' ? |
| 22:41.52 | mickeyl | ok, no problem |
| 22:41.56 | mickeyl | i do that tomorrow morning |
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| 22:42.06 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: You have to learn to love this. Brings more people on board. :) |
| 22:42.20 | mickeyl | sure sure |
| 22:42.21 | dcordes | mickeyl, afraid of what exactly? |
| 22:42.23 | mickeyl | it's just... |
| 22:42.30 | mickeyl | only working on boring stuff since weeks |
| 22:42.34 | mickeyl | docs |
| 22:42.35 | mickeyl | tests |
| 22:42.39 | mickeyl | phew... |
| 22:42.44 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: getting singleline working again. :) |
| 22:42.45 | mickeyl | dcordes: nevermind |
| 22:42.50 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: I know |
| 22:42.50 | mickeyl | right |
| 22:42.58 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Give me hints if you need help |
| 22:43.17 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: will do, the critical mass wrt. system tests is nearly there |
| 22:43.20 | mickeyl | from then we can distribute work |
| 22:43.27 | stefan_schmidt | good |
| 22:43.29 | mickeyl | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM, very good |
| 22:43.36 | mickeyl | but please don't include standard commands |
| 22:43.44 | mickeyl | ah well |
| 22:43.46 | dcordes | yes it's only a beginning |
| 22:43.53 | mickeyl | just list them seperate would be good |
| 22:43.53 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: marcel did a new push on connman today. Will test it the WE/next week |
| 22:43.59 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: ah, good news |
| 22:44.00 | dcordes | I'm working on cleaning and documenting at logs |
| 22:44.13 | mickeyl | dcordes: ok, good. then you are better off than ezx |
| 22:44.20 | mickeyl | we have documented 1% of the extra calls |
| 22:44.23 | mickeyl | *sigh* |
| 22:44.25 | dcordes | lol |
| 22:44.27 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: Seems he is often working in private and pushing later... |
| 22:44.48 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: (ezx) ups, I though we were better |
| 22:45.09 | mickeyl | stefan_schmidt: no, double check the wiki page, it's embarrasing |
| 22:45.21 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: hmm |
| 22:45.31 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: So many things, so little time |
| 22:45.32 | mickeyl | it's not urgent though |
| 22:45.52 | mickeyl | sure |
| 22:46.21 | stefan_schmidt | yeah, voice calls and sms first. Fancy stuff later |
| 22:46.22 | Bushman | ok, stupid question No.479: does the hardware of BA can handle the USB port in host mode? |
| 22:46.31 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Are you fine with this plan? |
| 22:46.45 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, 100% |
| 22:47.01 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: good, let's move this forward. :) |
| 22:47.08 | esteban | ok no help here good ... |
| 22:47.10 | esteban | bye !!! |
| 22:47.23 | Bushman | esteban: what's your problem? |
| 22:47.23 | stefan_schmidt | has to wait for pH5 showing up again to poke about magician. ;) |
| 22:47.50 | tmzt | someone pulled rmk? I need to try that reset thing |
| 22:48.03 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, I think south america made him rebalance priorities |
| 22:48.19 | dcordes | tmzt, that msm for-rmk branch? |
| 22:48.33 | tmzt | dcordes: no, sorry, on ezx |
| 22:48.46 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Well, I'm just 1,5 months back from a 4 weeks australia trip. I'm hungry for work. :) |
| 22:48.52 | Bushman | esteban: ? |
| 22:49.05 | esteban | yes ? |
| 22:49.20 | Bushman | well? what's your problem? |
| 22:49.25 | esteban | ok ! |
| 22:49.30 | tmzt | hermes? |
| 22:49.35 | esteban | no i was just wandering |
| 22:49.43 | Bushman | about? |
| 22:49.46 | esteban | were to begin with hermes |
| 22:50.01 | tmzt | dcordes: any boot kit or anything for hermes? |
| 22:50.01 | esteban | since you have "soft " booted |
| 22:50.04 | esteban | linux on it... |
| 22:50.05 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, ok perfect conditions bwahaha |
| 22:50.17 | stefan_schmidt | :D |
| 22:50.34 | esteban | i've tried |
| 22:50.37 | Bushman | hermes stands for? |
| 22:50.38 | dcordes | tmzt, only know http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/ |
| 22:50.45 | esteban | tio compile my own kernel |
| 22:50.49 | dcordes | Bushman, wiki.xda-developers.com has alias information |
| 22:50.51 | esteban | but no sucess |
| 22:50.59 | mickeyl | oh well |
| 22:51.00 | dcordes | esteban, which source did you use? |
| 22:51.02 | mickeyl | why waiting until tomorrow |
| 22:51.10 | mickeyl | kills gsm0710muxd and launches a singleline |
| 22:51.11 | esteban | Hermes is a HTC ppc |
| 22:51.23 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: That's the spirit :) |
| 22:51.31 | mickeyl | hehe |
| 22:51.33 | Bushman | esteban: oh, so you wanna compile your own build including the kernel, right? |
| 22:51.35 | tmzt | esteban: if something didn't work, that's the kind of thing to paste here |
| 22:51.39 | Bushman | and donno where to start? |
| 22:51.55 | esteban | yes |
| 22:51.56 | stefan_schmidt | fetches some mate and tries to get ogpsd talking to the NMEA device on Glofiish M800 |
| 22:51.56 | tmzt | esteban: arm dev (particularly with linux) is very similar to anything else |
| 22:52.03 | esteban | exactly |
| 22:52.22 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, I will dump some NMEA flow from the kais |
| 22:52.32 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: ok |
| 22:52.50 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: btw, how is the gps controlled? via AT commands or via GPIOs? |
| 22:52.53 | esteban | ok so -> 1 get the sources an patches |
| 22:52.53 | Bushman | esteban: well i can't realy hep you here since i don't have the developement enviroment myself |
| 22:52.54 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, didn't try it in a while. hope we didn't break the code for the gps serial channel |
| 22:52.58 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: power on, off, reset, etc |
| 22:53.20 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: Did you ever try gpsd on it? |
| 22:53.33 | Bushman | tmzt: this AT stuff, what are you guys exactly working on? |
| 22:53.39 | tmzt | dcordes: it's just NMEA on smd7 isn't it? |
| 22:53.43 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, it's not AT. AT only has some AGPS related stuff. |
| 22:53.46 | dcordes | tmzt, yes |
| 22:53.59 | dcordes | tmzt, and it's turned on and off using proc_comm I think |
| 22:54.10 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: ok |
| 22:54.10 | tmzt | Bushman: making freesmartphone work on the new HTC devices, based on qualcomm msm dual-core chip |
| 22:54.14 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, not tried |
| 22:54.16 | esteban | brushman : devellopement env ? do you mean the ppc ? |
| 22:54.33 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: ok, modem is more interesting as first step |
| 22:54.47 | tmzt | esteban: no, the set of tools used to build kernel/programs for the device |
| 22:54.53 | dcordes | stefan_schmidt, I don't know really how it is switched on/off. I just turn it on in wince and boot the linux kernel :) |
| 22:54.59 | Bushman | tmzt: in other words you are porting stuff? |
| 22:55.10 | tmzt | always |
| 22:55.26 | stefan_schmidt | dcordes: ah, ok, that's a good workaround as you start from wince anyway |
| 22:55.35 | esteban | tmzt : ok the toolchain and compiler ? |
| 22:55.40 | tmzt | google did the real work to start with though, making the kernel work on those chips |
| 22:55.47 | tmzt | esteban: yes |
| 22:56.04 | tmzt | esteban: we are all just wondering what your question is though |
| 22:56.13 | Bushman | tmzt: did google put it out as open source? |
| 22:56.37 | tmzt | Bushman: yes, the kernel was gpl and android user environment is mostly apache license |
| 22:56.50 | Bushman | and this android, is it anyhow linux-powered? |
| 22:56.50 | esteban | So my question is froma "soft" booting on the ppc what else can i do ? new kernel image ? |
| 22:56.53 | tmzt | Bushman: the kernel has been in git.android.com for about one year now |
| 22:57.13 | tmzt | esteban: booting with haret? |
| 22:57.23 | esteban | tmzt : yes |
| 22:57.25 | tmzt | esteban: what do you mean by new kernel image? |
| 22:58.08 | tmzt | Bushman: android uses the linux kernel, it has it's own basic tools on top of that and then the zygote davlik interpreter |
| 22:58.08 | Bushman | tmzt: i see. well i didn't know since i own this device for 2 weeks or so (and alredy shatered the touchscreen twice :D ) |
| 22:58.13 | mickeyl | d'oh |
| 22:58.20 | mickeyl | singleline is in better shape than i had hoped for |
| 22:58.37 | tmzt | Bushman: what? you didn't see what? |
| 22:58.44 | stefan_schmidt | mickeyl: *g* |
| 22:59.00 | esteban | Zimage.bin is linux kernel compiled with a set of pactches for handlesset |
| 22:59.12 | Bushman | 00:56:53 < tmzt> Bushman: the kernel has been in git.android.com for about one year now |
| 22:59.15 | Bushman | i see |
| 22:59.23 | tmzt | mickeyl: there reason I mentioned that file is it has a way of seperating the at responses and unsolicated commands, and then sending them to seperate places without a proper mux |
| 22:59.38 | Bushman | like "oh, ok, good to know" |
| 22:59.40 | esteban | so i was wondering, how do you extend it's functionalities, like reading data on the ppc |
| 23:00.13 | dcordes | I need a new aldi sim |
| 23:00.28 | tmzt | esteban: ok. the kernel is compiled from patched linux source, using a .config file that sets the options of what is included |
| 23:00.43 | tmzt | esteban: you build a new zImage, which you can boot with haret, from those sources |
| 23:00.57 | esteban | or you can do it from Haret "soft" booting and telnet commands? |
| 23:01.05 | tmzt | esteban: I (we) just don't know where the current hermes source is I think |
| 23:01.13 | esteban | or you recompile a new driver ... |
| 23:01.31 | tmzt | esteban: haret boots the linux kernel and replaces the windows in ram, it doesn't change anything in flash |
| 23:01.34 | Bushman | tmzt: last time i'v compiled a kernel was when i was compiling a firmware to my router :P |
| 23:01.34 | mickeyl | tmzt: oh? |
| 23:01.36 | esteban | hermes source? for the kernel ? |
| 23:01.57 | tmzt | mickeyl: unless I'm missing something |
| 23:02.11 | mickeyl | tmzt: which file is that again? |
| 23:02.29 | tmzt | http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/hardware/ril.git;a=tree |
| 23:02.32 | mickeyl | thanks |
| 23:02.32 | tmzt | atchannel.c |
| 23:03.57 | esteban | <tmzt> : ok but that's not my point. I wan't to contribute ... |
| 23:04.16 | Bushman | esteban: how? |
| 23:04.26 | mickeyl | tmzt: hmm, yeah |
| 23:04.29 | mickeyl | i guess i know what it does |
| 23:04.40 | Bushman | esteban: you code? |
| 23:05.25 | mickeyl | tmzt: good to know, keeping this for reference. but ogsmd at the core has something similar, so we can use unsolicited and solicited responses on the same channel, _provided_ the modem does not send us unsolicited in-between the execution of request/response commands |
| 23:05.30 | mickeyl | which would be very nasty |
| 23:05.32 | mickeyl | and uncommon |
| 23:06.03 | esteban | tmzt:yes i code, but usualy on java ... |
| 23:06.09 | tmzt | mickeyl: I guess dcordes sent you the dzo version as well? |
| 23:06.39 | esteban | Bushman: yes i code, but usualy on java ... |
| 23:06.55 | mickeyl | tmzt: i'm not sure, i got some code months ago |
| 23:06.57 | mickeyl | was it that? |
| 23:07.10 | Bushman | esteban: but C++ is not a problem for you? |
| 23:07.15 | esteban | Bushman |
| 23:07.21 | tmzt | kernel is c |
| 23:07.24 | esteban | Bushman : not at oll |
| 23:07.39 | Bushman | tmzt: whatever :P |
| 23:07.40 | esteban | Bushman mean c/c++ |
| 23:08.05 | esteban | no c/c++ isn't a problem |
| 23:08.42 | tmzt | the issue with hermes is it's the only s3c based htc |
| 23:08.48 | Bushman | my coding skills are on infant level :P |
| 23:10.12 | esteban | <tmzt> : so it's a problem? no code for s3c ? linux kernel pactches exists throught ... |
| 23:10.33 | esteban | for s3c [strong ARM ] |
| 23:10.41 | tmzt | not strong arm |
| 23:10.59 | tmzt | samsung chip, used in moko, iPhone, some ETENs apparently |
| 23:11.18 | tmzt | yes, there is code/kernel for it |
| 23:12.02 | tmzt | it's just that most of the other phones were pxa based, so they could be worked on together I think |
| 23:12.15 | tmzt | no there is msm which are also similar to each other |
| 23:12.56 | tmzt | if you look at wiki, you can see what hardware there is and what the linux instructions are if there are any on there |
| 23:13.06 | tmzt | maybe HermesLinux |
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| 23:15.52 | tmzt | mickeyl: it looks like the sends sets a pthread_mutex_lock |
| 23:15.59 | tmzt | mickeyl: at command send |
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| 23:19.35 | esteban | ok illcheck it ! |
| 23:19.53 | esteban | sorry to bother you guys and thank for the help ! |
| 23:20.13 | dcordes | esteban, you're welcome. |
| 23:20.29 | tmzt | esteban: that's not a problem |
| 23:21.03 | tmzt | esteban: just no one saw your question because a few people where working on one thing and the internal filter misses everything else |
| 23:21.39 | esteban | ok, i'm just a newbee on irc channel |
| 23:21.49 | esteban | so i don't realise that ! |
| 23:22.12 | dcordes | hmm gps is also broken in july build |
| 23:22.21 | esteban | have a good night !!! |
| 23:22.30 | esteban | ciao cioa ! |
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| 23:25.01 | Bushman | i wonder when apps from PC will work on everything else "as is" without porting :( |
| 23:25.20 | tmzt | when the source is available |
| 23:25.32 | tmzt | and a cross-platofrm library is used |
| 23:25.38 | Bushman | hmm... |
| 23:25.41 | tmzt | look at debian arm for instance |
| 23:25.56 | Bushman | well, i used to compile mips |
| 23:26.13 | Bushman | and it used standard kernel source :P |
| 23:26.17 | tmzt | most of the packages are just compiled for arm, so had to be fixed |
| 23:26.24 | tmzt | sure |
| 23:27.07 | tmzt | the reason I mentioned kernel26 is there are a number of devices on the phones that is only supported there (or was only supported there) |
| 23:27.20 | tmzt | but everything should be kernel.org tree eventually |
| 23:27.48 | Bushman | just you wait... few more years and windows will run on linux kernels :D |
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| 23:43.18 | Magister7 | hi to all |
| 23:45.19 | Magister7 | can someone help me - i'm getting kernel lock while trying to set keyboard light on. I doing this by calling vogue_set_egpio(1,7,1) - and get huh, entered c002c808 with preempt_count 00000102, exited with 00000103? error |
| 23:45.44 | Magister7 | and then a backrace |
| 23:47.25 | tmzt | NetRipper: any idea why vogue_set_egpio would OOPS? |
| 23:48.14 | tmzt | why is preempt enabled? |
| 23:48.50 | tmzt | you get this every time? |
| 23:49.21 | Magister7 | it was enable in Vogues config |
| 23:49.49 | Magister7 | no, only in this case |
| 23:54.06 | Magister7 | i try to set that egpio when a keypress is processed (in somewhat modified kaiser's keyboard driver |
| 23:55.31 | tmzt | so you are turning on keylight for a few seconds and turning it off? |
| 23:55.42 | tmzt | maybe you are supposed to use a work_queue or something for this |
| 23:57.51 | Magister7 | no, I get oops when trying to set it on. and it is already inside workqueue (all keypress processing routine) |
| 23:59.23 | Magister7 | and light actually turns on before oops... |