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02:19.10tomeiningenhey guys.. I was attempting to work on a keyboard driver for the touch pro.  has anyone else been looking into/working on one?
02:19.20tomeiningenI have a sprint model btw
02:23.36era|rooms been pretty quiet all night
02:24.32tomeiningensure seems that way :)
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02:26.22tomeiningeni was trying to figure out what halibut, trout and the like are hardware wise.  does trout represent the g1 hardware?
02:32.33maejreptomeiningen, are you able to boot to a shell?  if so, what did it take?
02:34.08tomeiningenI patched in the hillsdale patches to force the 640x480 resolution since the detection is failing.
02:34.45tomeiningenI am using the netripper initrd that does the touchscreen calibration since it stops at the shell
02:35.40tomeiningenhave you tried that?
02:35.58maejrepcouldn't find hilldale's patch, cause pastebin.com was down
02:36.17tomeiningenI manually added the changes myself. isn't hard to do
02:36.32maejrepI got a similar result myself
02:36.40maejrepjust not all the way
02:36.43tomeiningenah i see.
02:36.55tomeiningeni presume you have a sprint touch pro?
02:37.01tomeiningenwhere does it stop?
02:38.51maejrepyeah, sprint touch pro.  by not handing over the console to the mddi client I got all the way to a kernel panic :p
02:39.10maejrephaven't had a lot of time to get much further
02:39.40tomeiningenreally you get a kernel panic? that's no good
02:42.00maejrepprobably my haret config.. I have init=/init on the kernel cmdline.  haven't had a chance to unpack the initrd to see if there's even a /init, which is probably the problem :p
02:42.35tomeiningenyes that would be a problem :)
02:43.08maejrepyou said you use NetRipper's initrd -- is that the busybox-usb initrd?
02:43.13tomeiningenyes
02:43.35tomeiningenthe full name of the file is initrd-netripper-busybox-usb.cpio.gz
02:43.43maejrepyeah, same one I'm using.  what's your init= ?
02:43.45tomeiningenthat is what you want to put in the default.txt
02:44.08tomeiningenmy default.txt says set INITRD initrd....
02:44.17tomeiningen"set INITRD initrd..."
02:44.27maejrepno I have the initrd line right.  I'm talking about the init= argument on the kernel boot command
02:44.34tomeiningenoh
02:44.36maejrepdo you just leave it at the default?
02:44.47tomeiningenthis is in the source correct?
02:44.55maejrepno, in default.txt
02:45.19tomeiningenah ok.. mine doesnt have the init= part
02:45.20maejrepI think it's "mem=64M" by default
02:45.22maejrepk
02:45.25tomeiningenall mine has is mem=64M
02:45.35tomeiningenI follow you now
02:46.36tomeiningenbtw it appears that the pastebin.com link off of the wiki is operational now
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02:47.52maejrepcool, guess I'll have to get back into that later
02:48.14tomeiningenwithout that I think you will be stuck at the console handoff
02:49.23maejrepI got passed the handoff by redoing what hillsdale did (made a mddi_client_hitachi), and unchecking the "Use console only for boot" option
02:51.19maejrepwithout getting to a shell though I was stuck debugging via printk's in the kernel heh
02:51.39tomeiningenyeah.. well with the lack of real keyboard access it is still hard to type anything
02:51.51tomeiningenI also would recommend increasing the font size on the kernel :)
02:51.54tomeiningenmakes it a bit easier on the eyes
02:51.57tomeiningenif you haven't
02:52.14maejrephas anyone been able to tell if the "wince dmesg" location is different on the sprint model?
02:52.19tomeiningenleave the 8x8 enabled or the onscreen keyboard won't work though (at least the comments say that)
02:52.31maejrepwould be nice if we had network and telnetd :p
02:53.57tomeiningenit seems to be attempting to bring up usb networking but no device is available
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03:01.14maejrephmm, that's funny...  that's almost exactly what my change was
03:01.32maejrepseems weird though
03:01.57maejrepI actually made it a new file, but the result should be the same
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03:15.30tomeiningenwell I don't know.
03:18.15maejrepwow, i feel really dumb :/  I had actually reconstructed hillsdale's patches, and the only problem was my kernel boot command
03:18.29maejrepjust removing that from default.txt is all I needed to get to a shell
03:21.04tomeiningen:)
03:22.35tomeiningenwhat kind of information is put in the "wince dmesg" area?
03:23.21maejrepnot sure, the area noted on the wiki appears to be completely null when I check it
03:23.35maejrepso either the location is different for the sprint model, or windows is clearing it after booting
03:24.22tomeiningenhow are you reading the area?
03:24.26tomeiningenjust dd?
03:26.21maejrepharetconsole
03:27.00maejrepstart up haret in winmo, and hit the "listen" button instead of "run"
03:27.13maejrepthen run haretconsole.py on your desktop, with the IP of the phone (easiest on wifi)
03:28.07maejrepthen you can use pdump, vdump, pwf, vwf, etc to look at memory addresses, or watch for irq's, etc
03:28.57tomeiningenthanks
03:29.08maejrepbtw:
03:29.11maejrep-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 2311 Nov 19 22:24 init
03:29.35maejrepthere is an init in the initrd...  so maybe there was something else wrong with my kernel
03:30.40tomeiningenI will have to try that haretconsole thing
03:31.27maejrepthere's a tarball on NetRipper's file list
03:31.36maejrephttp://www.netripper.nl/raphael/
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03:31.57tomeiningenI am probably going about my investigation the hard way .. trying to inspect the various items that linux creates for the hardware upon bootup
03:32.05tomeiningenwith the tiny font :)
03:37.29maejrephmm, i wonder if haret has to recognize the device in order to watch for gpios
03:50.01tomeiningenwhat device does it tell you have?
03:58.27maejrepit detects "RAPH800", but doesn't appear to show any indication that it detected "Raphael" when the log shows "Looking at Raphael"
03:58.36maejrepso seems like it doesn't recognize that RAPH800 is the Raphael
04:02.55maejrepLooking at machine Wallaby
04:02.55maejrepLooking at machine Raphael
04:02.55maejrepLooking at machine Jornada820
04:03.09maejrepLooking at machine Generic MSM7xxxA <-- doesn't even find that
04:03.56maejrepDetected machine Generic ARM v6/generic (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='RAPH800')
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04:11.44tomeiningenI am not sure what I am doing :)
04:20.10maejrepsweet, recompiling haret pre-0.5.3 works
04:21.21tomeiningencan you put that up somewhere I could get it?
04:21.35tomeiningenI don:t have a windows box available to compile windows mobile code right now
04:23.03d0netswhats the word with android 1.0 on the tytn?
04:28.27maejreptomeiningen, it compiles on linux, I don't have windows either
04:28.43maejrepI'll upload it somewhere, sec
04:29.47maejrephttp://marzen.mybdev.com/~jhansche/haret.exe
04:41.47tomeiningenthanks
04:41.50tomeiningenI got it
04:42.14tomeiningenoh.  I figured since it was an .exe it required windows.. guess I should have looked into it first
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05:25.45tomeiningenmaejrep: I see what you mean about the gpios.. I seem to keep getting the same output no matter what key is pressed.
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06:10.20maejrepyeah, I'm not getting anything useful either
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07:32.57goxboxlivehmm not bad at all. I have build my first console-image for several months now. ANd it actually build.
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08:24.21dcordesgoxboxlive incredible. forw hich machine?
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09:35.10dcordesschlash hey there
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09:57.10Mioschi all
09:59.00MioscKevin2: i managed to shrink the kernel size from ~1.6M to ~1.3M and all those msgs disappeared but now i'm getting "Failed to execute /init"
10:09.10dcordesMiosc in your rootfs do 'ln -s sbin/init init' . alternatively pass init=/sbin/init in your kernel cmdline
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10:10.18dlabshouldn't the kernel check /sbin/init automagically?
10:12.29dcordesdlab maybe he boots initrd
10:13.19dlaboh, fun stuff
10:13.24dlabcould be useful to throw the linuxrc up somewhere
10:13.57Mioscdcordes: the script that constructs the initrd file just copied init directly to /
10:15.13Mioscdcordes: i now did what you suggested, and copied to sbin + made a link to /
10:15.26Mioscdcordes: seems i got further :D thanks!
10:19.05dcordesschlash do you want git access or somebody to commit your code?
10:19.15dcordesMiosc no problem
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10:25.26Neutron83hey NetRipper u there =
10:25.28Neutron83?
10:25.29dcordesneutron m frind
10:25.41Neutron83hey dcordes
10:25.44dcordesmy friend
10:25.53SmallR2002i'm hopefully going to get a job in a phone shop today
10:28.01SmallR2002then i can snag phones to test on :p
10:28.40dcordessnag me a blackstone raphael and dream ok
10:29.24SmallR2002i doubt i'll be able to do more than borrow for a few hours tbh
10:29.42dcordes:(
10:30.30SmallR2002just see if linux boots and report back
10:30.57dcordeswhat sort of shop? tmob?
10:31.25SmallR2002carphone warehouse
10:31.38dcordesk
10:31.40SmallR2002but, hopefully as a technician
10:31.56dcordeslol that can be faulty
10:32.10Mioscdoes anybody know at which point the init script is executed? I have put an echo message inside init, and after "waiting for root device..." i get mmc0: new MMC card at addr (...); mmcblk0:mmc0:0001 (...); mmcblk0: p1 "
10:32.32dcordesdon't try applying for technician jobs in nursing homes
10:33.00dcordesyou might end up as trash logistic technician
10:33.07SmallR2002it'd be as a member of 'geek squad'
10:34.19kiozendcordes: you ever wondered what a "facility manager" does?
10:34.23dcordesMioscd on't know. what's the problem?
10:34.58dcordeskiozen I do know it by now, thanks
10:35.53Mioscdcordes: it stops without panic after those msgs are printed
10:36.27Mioscdcordes: if i remove the card it displays another msg that the card has been removed and if i reinsert, i get the mmc0: new MMC card msg again
10:36.32dcordeswhere's that init / rootfs from?
10:37.02Mioscdcordes: it's generated by a script
10:37.21Mioscdcordes: but it starts with an echo "msg"
10:37.23dcordesyea the mmc driver printks when the sd bay gpio is triggered
10:37.50dcordeswhat script?
10:37.54Mioscdcordes: the "msg" is not displayed, so i think it doesn't even call the init script
10:38.15Mioscdcordes: Kevin2 's build.sh in order to boot from a loopback rootfs
10:38.29dcordesdo you specify the correct init= e
10:38.31dcordes?
10:39.06Mioscdcordes: i suppose it's finding it since the "failed to execute /init" msg is gone
10:40.34dcordesso the kernel tries to run it.
10:40.57dcordeshow did you make the init ?
10:41.02Mioscbut no messages from init appear
10:41.38Mioschttp://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/initramfs-installer/build.sh
10:41.55Mioschttp://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/initramfs-installer/init.sh
10:42.01Mioscdcordes: these are the two
10:48.04tmztMiosc: can you try init=/bin/sh on the command line?
10:48.37dcordesMiosc how did you make your rootfs?
10:48.42Miosctmzt: yeah, just a sec
10:49.52Mioscdcordes: the rootfs should be provided through the init.sh script
10:50.14Miosctmzt: same thing :(
10:50.36dcordeswhat's the purpose oft he initramfs ?
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10:51.47tmztit looks like busybox is static, since there are no libs copied
10:52.06Mioscdcordes: it creates a loopback rootfs file which is mounted on vfat, so that partitioning of mmc/sd card is no longer necessary
10:54.12dcordesah that thing used in the all in one linux boot .exe files?
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10:54.23Miosctmzt: eek it's not
10:54.23Mioscdcordes: yeah
10:54.39Mioscdcordes: i'm currently trying to get it to work and learn in the process :)
10:57.03tmztok, can you run strings busybox |grep lib
10:57.28tmztalso, do you have AEABI and OABI_COMPAT in you kernel .config ?
10:59.24Miosctmzt: i disabled eabi since i wasnt able to build an eabi  crossdev environment  so im using glibc w/o eabi
11:00.18tmztok, the busybox needs to be non-EABI also then
11:00.27tmztanything from the grep lib?
11:00.50Mioscjust a sec, i tried to recompile as static but got a weird error
11:04.09tmztyou didn't use busybox from that url?
11:04.46Miosctmzt: no i tried to build my own one
11:05.24tmztyou can copy the libs listed by that grep command to your initrd or modify the build.sh to do that
11:06.13Miosctmzt: http://rafb.net/p/5nK3JP67.html
11:09.20tmztnot much there
11:09.57tmztit might need libc though
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11:14.22Miosctmzt: ok i populated /lib and /usr/lib into the rootfs inird file, but not change :(
11:14.31Miosctmzt: busybox is now statically built
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14:47.52dcordesNeutron83 still around?
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15:13.43goxboxlive_BabelO: building OE with -j 4 make a lot of packages fail compiling.
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15:29.00BabelO_goxboxlive_: depend, if it is parallele make or parallele bitbake, there is two kind of build
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16:04.08craigadhey there dcordes
16:05.07dcordeshello craigad
16:06.34craigaddcordes how's it going? been a couple of weeks since I'ce been on here
16:07.08dcordesall good, you?
16:07.29craigadI have been able to boot szsoftware's sd set up
16:07.37craigadb
16:08.11craigaddcordes been busy - young family :)
16:09.14craigadszsoftware asked me to contact you about getting the modem working...
16:09.31dcordesthe modem should work on the polaris. which kernel do you use?
16:11.59craigadone szsoftware gave me
16:12.19dcordesdid you try the phone in android? that's a fast and easy way to try phone functionality.
16:12.31craigadfrom his kaiser boot kit
16:12.57craigadnot even tried to boot into android yet
16:13.01dcordesuhm it's not so relevant now anyway because also polaris will use the new rebase to latest g1 code
16:13.22dcordesand if you didn't test it, why should you ask for help with it?
16:14.39craigadhe recommended asking you for starting point as he had not got it working
16:15.51craigadso all the patches are now in the git source tree?
16:17.03craigadI'm going to try booting into android now
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16:34.43craigaddcordes my apologies the phone works in a fashion - as much as it does on the raphael
16:35.29dcordesidk about raph phone
16:38.41craigadwell you accept a call, but cannot here any thing and android crashes when trying to end the call
16:39.00dcordesok
16:44.48craigadok read that gprs works using pppd on /dev/sd0
16:48.38craigadthat's smd0
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17:06.52goxboxlive_BabelO: ok
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17:11.06goxboxlive_BabelO: i was using  PARALLELL_MAKE = j 4 in my local.conf, so i guess it's the make part that use it, and not 'bitbake'
17:30.52Marajindcordes: yo?
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17:31.11Marajindcordes: did you speak to Cr2? he wants some recommendations about what tariff/contract to take for german umts service
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17:50.35drasarHello can somebody tell me what e.g. GPSR(x) macro exactly does? I don't understand that 0x60 mask and right shift :(
17:52.53drasarI mean this macro: #define GPSR(x)   __REG2(0x40E00018, ((x) & 0x60) >> 3)
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18:04.27BabelO_goxboxlive_: PARALLELL_MAKE = 4 you mean ? not j 4
18:04.33BabelO_back to home, bbl
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18:51.18NetRipperNeutron83, am now
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20:01.54NetRipperman, childish behaviour on that diamond linux thread
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20:13.40MarajinNetRipper: Why, what's going on?
20:15.34NetRippersome people are just having issues letting some stuff go
20:15.43Marajinsounds like people
20:15.50NetRipper;)
20:15.57NetRipperhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2936733#post2936733
20:16.04NetRipperif you're really interested, read the last few pages lol
20:16.06NetRipperbut i warn you
20:16.09NetRipperit's a waste of your time
20:16.40metter_yes well, unfortunately no mods around to clean the thing up...i personally would delete almost every second post ;)
20:17.14NetRipperyea well, mods cleaning up too much also get bashed as they "prevent public opinion"
20:17.40NetRipperi've been a mod once, and it's a hell
20:17.41NetRipper:p
20:17.48Marajinit isn't a democracy
20:17.51Marajinbugger 'em
20:17.58NetRippertrue
20:18.05goxboxlive_BabelO: no, PARALLELL_MAKE = -j 4 .
20:18.11NetRipperyou need to be able to cope with it ;)
20:18.17goxboxlive_Take a look at local.conf.sample
20:18.27goxboxlive_oe/conf directory
20:21.03BabelOgoxboxlive_:
20:21.04BabelOPARALLEL_MAKE = "-j 3"
20:21.05BabelOBB_NUMBER_THREADS = "2"
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20:21.19BabelOi setup that and it works for me with current OE
20:21.26BabelOwith 4 too
20:21.52BabelObut i disable parallel for some steps of bootstrap only bb_numbers
20:23.12goxboxlive_ok so BB_NUMBER is for bitbake parallell process
20:24.59BabelOyes
20:25.04goxboxlive_I am trying to build a openmoko-image for the Magiacian, but webkit is bugging
20:25.12goxboxlive_it fail compiling.
20:25.36goxboxlive_BabelO: has pH5 left #htc-linux, isent he around anymore?
20:25.36dcordesNetRipper, look at it from a differnt angle. many people also seem to share their excitement and happiness about it.
20:26.05BabelOlong time i did not see him, even on gmail :(
20:26.41goxboxlive_hmm i c
20:26.58goxboxlive_ymerejt isent around anymore either
20:27.11dcordesgoxboxlive_, he was around for a few hours after he returned from south america
20:27.18NetRipperdcordes, i dont mind the 'keep up the good work' stuff... i mind the people that bash them ;)
20:27.37goxboxlive_dcordes: ymerejt or pH5
20:27.41dcordesI don't give a damn about those now
20:27.43goxboxlive_~seen ymerejt
20:27.46aptymerejt <n=jerry@ip-217.net-89-3-217.rev.numericable.fr> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 284d 21h 27m 42s ago, saying: 'goxboxlive: ~ping'.
20:28.01dcordesgoxboxlive_, pH5
20:28.04goxboxlive_ok
20:28.12goxboxlive_~seen pH5
20:28.13aptph5 <n=ph5@e178204099.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #oe, 9d 10m 24s ago, saying: 'ahem, ever is the right word there. not yet, I got sidetracked a bit.'.
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20:30.25goxboxlive_BabelO: :-) i saw pH5 got online at gmail now :-)
20:30.40BabelO:)
20:31.13goxboxlive_BabelO: are you running linux with Qtopia on one of your devices now? Or are you still using wince as main OS?
20:31.30BabelOwince :(
20:31.33goxboxlive_:-)
20:31.38goxboxlive_what device are you using now?
20:31.42BabelOgoxboxlive_: on ba i use linux only, but with gps
20:31.48BabelOgoxboxlive_: artemis
20:32.00goxboxlive_so you are still using your BA
20:32.04goxboxlive_hold crying child
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20:39.49goxboxlive_my youenst child has watercoops or whatever the english word is. He itch and itch, and cries and cries.
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20:44.58Marajingoxboxlive_: chickenpox ?
20:46.02Marajinnah it can't be..
20:46.19Marajingoxboxlive_: what would you call them normally? I'll probably be able to work out the english then
20:48.36Mr_Oon an htc tytn (hermes) can i plug a 4go micro sd card ?
20:52.33Marajinyah
20:52.44MarajinI used a 4gb MicroSDHC card on mine and it was fine
20:58.39Mr_Othanx
21:11.11goxboxlive_Marajin: correct, chicken-pox
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21:27.26cr2hey linux hippies :)
21:27.33kiozenhi
21:27.46cr2all this project management stuff drives me crazy ;)
21:28.00cr2need to do some arm asm :)
21:28.11cr2hi kiozen
21:28.16kiozenlol
21:28.29kiozenyou got dsl?
21:28.29dcordeshigh there
21:28.51BabelOola cr2
21:29.03cr2no, i'm still editing the "user requirements templates"
21:29.28kiozentcom is fun :)
21:29.49cr2but the irc speed is better
21:29.55kiozenwe will move office in january, let's see how long the blackout will be
21:30.05cr2hehe
21:30.24cr2dcordes: you have an umts data contract ?
21:30.58cr2kiozen: i'm in doubt if DSL is really needed
21:30.59dcordescr2, yes - the worst one you could pick
21:31.17dcordes15 euros or so for 300mb / month
21:31.19cr2dcordes: ok, which one should i pick ?
21:31.31dcordes30 or so for 5gb
21:31.40cr2i don't need flatrate, i can get bulk data at work ;-)
21:31.42dcordesI'm at vodafone
21:31.56cr2with eeepc ?
21:32.07dcordesno with kaiser
21:32.34cr2ok
21:32.48cr2so what will you advise ?
21:33.03dcordesbut wince because of lack of suitable gui and battery life caused by non present main clock control :(
21:33.51cr2hm, did you get qtopia running on fb0 ?
21:34.07dcordescr2, I'm happy with speed and coverage. I would probably get that 5gb thing. depends on your provider I guess
21:34.15dcordesno
21:35.12cr2ok, i need to check if something !tmob works here at all
21:35.28dcordesI never got it to start. I tried a debian rootfs made for the universal on kaiser
21:35.54dcordesX didn't work there either
21:35.57cr2strange
21:36.28dcordesstrange is that I met nobody with an msm7* device who cared about X
21:36.36dcordesor qtopia ..
21:38.25cr2i'll try to do something. but need to fix the n560 resume and 720xA SD/wifi clock first
21:39.14kiozenyse, yes, yes :))
21:39.14cr2NetRipper: already sleeping ?
21:39.22cr2:)
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21:40.25cr2kiozen: there is one strange place in the SPL dump, but i hope that we will solve this problem
21:40.45dcordespressed wrong button ^^ you 7x0xa guys should ask schlach about sd
21:40.47cr2kiozen: afair, you have made the spl dump with itsutils, but only some useless junk came out. right ?
21:41.02cr2?
21:41.29kiozenyes
21:41.37cr2the sd(io) clock divisors are already documented ?
21:42.05kiozendon't know
21:42.13cr2btw, what about g1 wifi driver ? does it work somewhere else ?
21:42.31dcordescr2, I spent a few hours on that. (kaiser)
21:42.40cr2ok, i'll think about it.
21:42.58dcordescr2, I have a patch with the approach
21:43.27cr2dcordes: where can i look at it ?
21:43.53cr2kiozen: do you have some time at the weekend ?
21:44.08dcordescr2,  http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082410.diff
21:44.26dcordeslook out it is 10mb
21:44.29kiozencr2: depends on the time slot :)
21:44.47cr2dcordes: hehe, 9.2MB patch ;)
21:46.23dcordescr2, http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082210.diff is the same kernel without the wifi. 300kb ..
21:46.53cr2kiozen: ok, i'll about the time slot :-)
21:47.21cr2dcordes: ok. need to go now. good night.
21:49.57dcordes~lart work interfering with hacking
21:49.57apttakes work interfering with hacking to the vet for a "special" visit
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22:04.44dcordesis lg ks20 htc? what is the codename?
22:15.06marexit's not htc
22:15.11marexhttp://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=825
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22:19.05dcordesthanks
22:27.43dcordeswhat's the codename for the cdma diamond?
22:27.46dcordesdiam800 ?
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22:40.48Moobyfrhow can we see that ?
22:40.58Moobyfrmy diamond says DIAM100 at boot
22:49.59dcordesMoobyfr, I'm only wondering about the CDMA 800 diamond
22:50.08dcordes100 is gsm
22:54.10NetRipperman that cr2 guy is hard to catch
22:54.10NetRipper;)
23:13.35Neutron839NetRipper u got a diamond too ??
23:16.38NetRipperno, raphael
23:19.00Neutron839okay
23:19.27Neutron839z know where to get A CID unlocker ??
23:22.43Neutron839as in diamond thread are some raphael radio roms wich ae only usable with cid unlock
23:23.39dcordesraphael cid unlocker doesn't work?
23:24.22NetRipperno you need security unlock for that
23:24.29NetRipperprobably also cid
23:24.51dcordesI did not need security unlock for flashing kais radio
23:24.55NetRipperyou have to request cid/security unlock... it's described in one of the sticky threads
23:25.01dcordesok
23:25.29dcordesNetRipper, I think cr2 wanted to terror you with SD
23:25.35dcordesslavery
23:25.35NetRipperit's not for free, unless you're a regular
23:25.39NetRipperhehe dcordes
23:25.50NetRipperi think i cant make it work on my own
23:26.07dcordesthen ask schlach for help. he is ahead of you.
23:26.19NetRipperwith sd?
23:26.31dcordesyes but not on raph/diam..
23:26.39dcordesI suspect they are same tho
23:28.19dcordesjust pm when you see him.
23:31.06Neutron839okay thanks NetRipper did so
23:31.57NetRipperyea he has xperia
23:31.59Neutron839hope he will give it to me
23:41.28Marajindcordes: yo
23:41.41Marajinah I see you spoke to cr2 earlier anyway
23:41.54dcordesyea thanks for the hint didn't see it in the logs before.
23:46.20Marajinno worries
23:53.38dcordesgn

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