| 00:01.00 | marajin | Join the club, it's hardly exclusive ;) |
| 00:01.21 | ginge_ | It isn't just mild dislike, I can't find anything good to say about it. |
| 00:03.37 | ginge_ | doh all I had to do was press escape to close the dialog box :/ |
| 00:08.48 | marajin | ginge_: Nobody can |
| 00:08.49 | marajin | anyway |
| 00:09.10 | marajin | Whatcha been up to then, just generic real life stuff of annoying intrusion status? |
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| 00:11.50 | dcordes | ginge_, just read through the logs. maybe try disabling the non primary displays in the display manager in order to get everything onto primary? |
| 00:12.48 | ginge_ | dcordes: hey man, um doesnt matter now, fixed it. Should be disabled anyways |
| 00:12.57 | dcordes | evening |
| 00:13.05 | marajin | it's 1am dcordes |
| 00:13.08 | marajin | that's morning |
| 00:13.21 | ginge_ | 1am? |
| 00:13.27 | marajin | (yes I know it's 00:12 for us ginge) |
| 00:13.34 | marajin | (but dcordes is gmt+1) |
| 00:13.34 | dcordes | good night or whatsoever ^^ |
| 00:13.42 | ginge_ | I was just surprised at the time |
| 00:13.54 | ginge_ | more an exclamation than a questioning |
| 00:14.06 | marajin | time flies when you're being a geek ;) |
| 00:14.23 | marajin | oh, arse, I missed those linux wossnames in manchester didn't I? |
| 00:14.26 | dcordes | oh I see |
| 00:14.34 | ginge_ | time flies when you have to use .net and crystal reports. (where flies=wasted) |
| 00:14.54 | marajin | crystal reports? |
| 00:14.54 | marajin | twitches spasmically |
| 00:14.58 | dcordes | lol |
| 00:15.08 | ginge_ | marajin: you didn't miss much |
| 00:15.22 | dcordes | that's tough you also do crack at work? |
| 00:15.43 | marajin | ginge_: No? |
| 00:15.43 | ginge_ | I might start if I have to do more damn reports |
| 00:16.03 | marajin | ginge_: you could swap jobs with dcordes, he might not actually mind ;) |
| 00:16.15 | dcordes | ok with me! |
| 00:16.25 | ginge_ | marajin: you are right. I'll take crystal and ./net over old poo any day |
| 00:17.21 | marajin | heh :p |
| 00:17.33 | ginge_ | although a fortnight of 18 hour days is starting to wind me up a little. |
| 00:17.45 | dcordes | ginge_, it's not _that_ bad. not 100% of the time is spent with the poo |
| 00:17.51 | marajin | dude you only come home and kernel hack anyway, how can it be that much different? |
| 00:17.58 | dcordes | you can also go for the old laundry |
| 00:18.11 | ginge_ | and yesterday I was told to rewrite all my code in vb.net as c++/c# is not "how we do things" |
| 00:18.33 | ginge_ | marajin: I can kernel hack on my perfectly sane Linux box |
| 00:18.38 | marajin | VB? |
| 00:18.41 | marajin | VB?! |
| 00:18.44 | ginge_ | indeed |
| 00:18.46 | marajin | Instead of C++ or even C#? |
| 00:18.49 | marajin | Did you hit them? |
| 00:19.02 | ginge_ | no, I tried to quit :) |
| 00:19.13 | marajin | though you can directly translate C# to VB.Net you know |
| 00:19.41 | ginge_ | yeah, I got a tool to do it. It looks fookin aweful and doesn't understand pointers properly |
| 00:19.58 | ginge_ | s/aweful/awful/ |
| 00:20.04 | ginge_ | hey apt lives! |
| 00:21.14 | marajin | ginge_: Well .Net considers pointers 'unsafe' anyhoo |
| 00:21.41 | ginge_ | figured that one out the hard way |
| 00:22.02 | ginge_ | I consider .Net unsafe, so we are equal |
| 00:22.18 | marajin | could be java |
| 00:22.25 | ginge_ | vomits |
| 00:22.29 | marajin | precisely |
| 00:23.08 | dcordes | marajin, did they identify the knife offender yet? |
| 00:23.24 | ginge_ | points to marajin accusingly |
| 00:24.19 | marajin | dcordes: No, they arrested someone the day of the stabbing though. The girl apparently lived long enough to phone the emergency services so.. |
| 00:32.55 | dcordes | crazy world we live in |
| 00:34.10 | marajin | sings along to 'Mad World' |
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| 01:34.35 | dcordes | any raph800 people around? |
| 01:34.55 | marajin | dcordes: you scared them all away with old poo :( |
| 01:37.49 | dcordes | sorry can't do anything about it |
| 01:44.46 | marajin | heh :) |
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| 02:28.38 | dcordes | marajin, good night |
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| 02:53.48 | zule | can anyone tell me how I decide on the compressed rom boot loader base address? |
| 02:54.00 | zule | is this the address I load the kernel into with haret? |
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| 04:28.51 | ALoGeNo | lo all |
| 04:28.54 | ALoGeNo | morning |
| 04:44.52 | BHSPitMonkey | morning |
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| 06:53.17 | ALoGeNo | goxboxlive morning, are you there? |
| 06:53.37 | goxboxlive | hi ALoGeNo |
| 06:53.42 | ALoGeNo | ^^ |
| 06:54.37 | ALoGeNo | im looking that in haret svn in xanadu we have htcuniversal-gpio.h maybe that is the problem for non boot of the 2.6.23? |
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| 06:55.22 | ALoGeNo | becose is haret that looks like cant run the kernel.. (it freeze when haret say jumping to kernel) |
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| 06:57.25 | ALoGeNo | i saw that you was worked in 2.6.23 4 moths a go, in the oe repo, any idea of over where beggin |
| 06:57.28 | ALoGeNo | ? |
| 06:58.57 | ALoGeNo | goxboxlive help us unis pleeeeease.. ^^' |
| 07:03.54 | tmzt | ALoGeNo: that's probably the kernel, not haret |
| 07:04.30 | tmzt | are you looking in kernel26 on cvs.handhelds.org? |
| 07:05.07 | ALoGeNo | hum.. hi tmzt good morning, how you was touched the gpios i was think that may be.. but ok.. |
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| 07:05.38 | ALoGeNo | i was looked in every place i think :/ |
| 07:05.56 | ALoGeNo | the more newest is in the OE repo.. |
| 07:07.03 | tmzt | kernel source is? I thought that just referenced it in .bb files? |
| 07:07.30 | ALoGeNo | ho you have too the hh branch in oe |
| 07:07.39 | ALoGeNo | and many more. |
| 07:08.00 | ALoGeNo | i was look in every folder.. |
| 07:08.07 | ALoGeNo | than every branch.. |
| 07:08.14 | ALoGeNo | of* |
| 07:09.06 | ALoGeNo | i have many issues with bitbake tmzt, i have not enougth space.. or so, i have many troubles.. |
| 07:09.55 | ALoGeNo | tmzt is not possible to convert .bb file in .sh?? |
| 07:10.15 | ALoGeNo | i mean convert the bitbake script to bash.. |
| 07:10.27 | ALoGeNo | shell script i mean.. |
| 07:11.17 | tmzt | I wouldn't worry too much about bitbake, you need a kernel first and then you should be able to use any armv5 rootfs |
| 07:11.20 | ALoGeNo | bitbake applyes many many patches and use many kernel sources to obtain the final kernel build |
| 07:12.11 | ALoGeNo | yeah i know that but, you know we have not new kernel with stable acx :( |
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| 07:12.28 | ALoGeNo | isnt another problem |
| 07:12.47 | tmzt | ok, I thought you meant you didn't have the space to build the whole image |
| 07:13.24 | tmzt | the problem is you need to build busybox to build some of those images, so there is still a lot of packages |
| 07:14.10 | ALoGeNo | tmzt rm and me was talking about axc driver and so.. like if that is acx100 and i was saw that airmon-ng told me that is acx111 (i think that in wikis of uni i seen axc100) :P |
| 07:14.37 | ALoGeNo | okey isee.. |
| 07:15.08 | tmzt | I think that's the general name (axc100) |
| 07:16.07 | ALoGeNo | oh thanks for the tip |
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| 12:07.15 | lifegrasp | BLUE ANGELS ...is that a code name for something |
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| 12:42.55 | dcordes | marajin lo there |
| 12:43.56 | dcordes | lifegrasp yes it's a neurotoxic substance |
| 12:44.17 | lifegrasp | ...awesome |
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| 13:58.48 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes: you need raph people,no? |
| 14:00.05 | szsoftware | dcordes: where can I set irssis nickname handling, when current nick isn't available? |
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| 14:24.05 | dcordes | szsoftware no I need him to get me 50 units of blueangel. mys tash ran low |
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| 14:24.19 | dcordes | *_* |
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| 14:25.55 | dcordes | szsoftware I'm hapy with the underscores |
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| 14:58.53 | szsoftware | dcordes: I would be with underscores too, unfortunately it does szsoftwa1e szsoftwa2e or so |
| 15:00.23 | szsoftware | dcordes: dcordes: we should donate to ourself, maybe next year we both have a raphael :-) |
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| 15:36.38 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 11d 22h 56m 15s ago, saying: 'Neutron83: can you run haret commands ?'. |
| 15:41.45 | szsoftware | Neutron: you where looked for by dcordes |
| 15:43.56 | goxboxlive | ALoGeNo: as i said before, i am not the one that have suplied the patches in OE the last months. I havent aplied patches to OE for allmost a year now. |
| 15:44.30 | goxboxlive | If name is on those pathces, then someone else has aplied them with my account. |
| 15:44.47 | goxboxlive | I dont think i have a account at OE anymore. |
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| 18:51.29 | dcordes | Nazral, hi |
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| 19:39.35 | tmzt | alasdair: hi |
| 19:39.46 | tmzt | alasdair: does that have windows or palm? |
| 19:44.48 | ali1234 | looks like WM6 |
| 19:46.13 | tmzt | alasdair: you still here? |
| 19:46.46 | tmzt | alasdair: hi, thanks, I think the pros are wm anyway now but wasn't sure |
| 19:47.15 | tmzt | ali1234: hi, thanks, I think the pros are wm anyway now but wasn't sure |
| 19:47.19 | alasdair | hi |
| 19:47.31 | tmzt | can you run haret on that device? |
| 19:47.39 | alasdair | its has windows 6 on it |
| 19:48.43 | alasdair | I'm unsure if I want to play around with it yet its a new phone so I might leave it a few months before I start messing about with it |
| 19:48.59 | alasdair | I'm just doing some background reading |
| 19:49.28 | marex | wm6 is probably fucked with watchdog, so booting linux on that would be pain in the arse |
| 19:49.51 | marex | othervise it shouldnt be that hard |
| 19:50.13 | alasdair | cool |
| 19:51.42 | alasdair | I take it by watchdog you mean the watchdog timer on the device that will reset it? |
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| 20:19.28 | dcordes | rakeem hi there, how ya been? |
| 20:19.37 | tmzt | dcordes: mobile? |
| 20:20.27 | dcordes | tmzt yes I'm on the kais |
| 20:20.53 | dcordes | really need to fix that keyboard glitch in wince |
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| 20:21.39 | dcordes | until we have decent pm and a nice frontend in linux |
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| 20:41.09 | SanMehat | dcordes: yo |
| 20:42.55 | dcordes | SanMehat yo |
| 20:43.14 | SanMehat | dcordes: perf results with the new SD driver: |
| 20:43.25 | SanMehat | Writes: |
| 20:43.25 | SanMehat | 134217728 bytes transferred in 7.810 secs (17185368 bytes/sec) |
| 20:43.25 | SanMehat | Reads: |
| 20:43.25 | SanMehat | 134217728 bytes transferred in 6.665 secs (20137693 bytes/sec) |
| 20:43.45 | dcordes | your new record for the trout? |
| 20:43.47 | SanMehat | yup |
| 20:43.59 | dcordes | congrats |
| 20:44.03 | SanMehat | :) |
| 20:44.33 | dcordes | can people upgrade their kernels? |
| 20:44.49 | SanMehat | not on the t-mobile production devices |
| 20:45.23 | dcordes | sad for them |
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| 20:48.34 | dcordes | SanMehat so who will benefit (officially) from your improvements? |
| 20:49.12 | SanMehat | dcordes: All msm kernels.. the G1 kernel will get updated and OTAed once more testing is done |
| 20:49.17 | SanMehat | (no idea when that will be) |
| 20:49.34 | dcordes | OTA ? |
| 20:49.51 | SanMehat | Over-The-Air update |
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| 20:50.24 | dcordes | oh I thought it's not possible to update? |
| 20:50.41 | tmzt | is mmc using pio or dma now? |
| 20:50.46 | dcordes | that applies only to the user? |
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| 20:51.05 | dcordes | tmzt dma.. think nobody tried pio on kais |
| 20:53.03 | SanMehat | dcordes: we can push out updates to devices over the air |
| 20:54.06 | marajin | allo allo allo |
| 20:54.37 | dcordes | SanMehat automagically? |
| 20:54.48 | dcordes | marajin lo |
| 20:55.05 | SanMehat | dcordes: well. from the end-users perspective its 'automagic' :) |
| 20:55.07 | SanMehat | hey marajin |
| 20:56.03 | dcordes | SanMehat that's cool I'd love to install some kernel updates too on different g1s :)D |
| 20:56.16 | dcordes | automagic |
| 20:56.52 | marajin | hey SanMehat / dcordes |
| 20:57.51 | dcordes | I wonder how easy it is for some person to 'install an update' on this highly static and propietary device i use now |
| 20:59.13 | marajin | eh? you got a G1? |
| 20:59.33 | dcordes | no I mean the kaiser with wince |
| 21:02.31 | dcordes | I wonder if people will figure how OTA accesses kernel |
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| 21:05.21 | tmzt | there's these magic intent things |
| 21:05.50 | tmzt | (or there's source code, but it takes time to read it all) |
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| 21:33.29 | szsoftware | SanMehat: I can't find the sources with your sd changes |
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| 21:37.58 | SanMehat | szsoftware: look on source.android.com for submissions by me |
| 21:43.57 | dcordes | SanMehat will it also hit git.android.com ? |
| 21:44.12 | SanMehat | dcordes: eventually |
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| 21:47.33 | szsoftware | SanMehat: the last changes I can find on git://android.git.kernel.org/kernel/msm.git, made by you, are three weeks old? |
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| 21:54.53 | dcordes | szsoftware can you prepare a patch that only has the needed changes for polaris? one that applies against the kaiser trout code |
| 21:55.20 | dcordes | best before you go back tot he woods |
| 21:55.49 | szsoftware | dcordes: oh, this time I wont go to the woods, but the mointains :-) |
| 21:56.00 | dcordes | uhm ok |
| 21:56.22 | szsoftware | dcordes: I will do my best, regarding the patch |
| 21:57.04 | szsoftware | mointains, haha. That are the Mountains on the Nordsee! |
| 21:57.41 | dcordes | that would be nice. just try keeping it as smalla s posible so it will be easier to add polarisa long with nike to the new super branch |
| 21:58.04 | szsoftware | dcordes: ehh, I made these patches already |
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| 21:58.20 | szsoftware | dcordes: wait .. |
| 21:58.34 | dcordes | I thought they also hve the kaiser stuff |
| 21:58.44 | dcordes | and basic msm7200 |
| 21:59.12 | szsoftware | dcordes: look here or I misunderstood? : http://linuxtogo.org/~szsoftware/kernel/diffs/02-against_android-msm-htc-2.6.25/ |
| 21:59.50 | szsoftware | dcordes: ahh, ok, they consist of kaiser, yes |
| 22:00.25 | szsoftware | dcordes: you need trout+polaris_only? |
| 22:01.02 | dcordes | nvm if that has your latest stuff I can easily compare it with the kaiser only |
| 22:02.11 | szsoftware | dcordes: I remember there is no vkbd working in |
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| 22:51.18 | Wasab1 | I'm trying to get linux working on my magician, when i start the booter, the screen goes white and i have to reset the thing, tried Qt and openmoko, same on both. |
| 22:54.02 | szsoftware | ginge: Hey man,I'm so curious about your new code! :-) |
| 22:57.51 | marajin | szsoftware: You shouldn't be too curious about ginge, you might get a nasty surprise ;) |
| 22:58.26 | szsoftware | marajin: :-) |
| 22:58.41 | szsoftware | hey thats funny too: http://www.infradead.org/recruitment.html |
| 22:59.59 | marajin | heh :p |
| 23:00.22 | marajin | the dollar is now less than 1.5 to the UKP though, I'm scared |
| 23:00.30 | marajin | from 2.12 to 1.48 |
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| 23:12.03 | ali1234 | awesome, time to withdraw my online poker winnings then |
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