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00:32.51szsoftwareping endless space
00:34.45szsoftwaredzo: is the charging stuff in vogue-ts.c:cpld_buttons there because of a quick hack?
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01:25.11szsoftwareI need some sleep. CU emptyness!
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01:30.26dream_killhi
01:30.32dream_killquestion
01:30.59marajinand what is that?
01:31.23dream_killhow did u compiled the msn-htc kernel from the android rep
01:32.18marajinoh I dunno, I don't deal with the kernel
01:32.32tmztdream_kill: which machine?
01:33.20dream_killubuntu
01:33.24dream_killaa
01:33.25dream_killg1
01:33.41tmztyeah, g1 you don't need anything for linuxtogo
01:34.02tmztjust trout and android-msm-htc-2.6.25 from android.git.kernel.org
01:34.04dream_killok, then raphael then
01:34.21dream_killi got the gzip
01:34.29dream_killand when make, it makes for x86 arch
01:34.37dream_killnot the correct arch
01:34.47tmztI think you can find information on wiki.xda-developers.com RaphaelLinux
01:34.51tmztoh
01:35.18tmztyou need CROSS_COMPILE=/path/prefix- ARCH=arm make zImage
01:35.39tmztyou also need a cross compiler for arm, such as codesourcery.com
01:37.24Neutron83hi there ?
01:37.34Neutron83is xda developers down ?
01:39.55tmztdon't think so
01:40.06Neutron83ahh got back
01:40.16Neutron83i got an HTTP 500
01:41.13Neutron83its fixed now
01:41.33Neutron83tryin to get some stuff uploaded
01:42.10Neutron83nice
01:42.14Neutron83i got it online
01:42.19tmztoh, how is shift going?
01:42.35Neutron83not that good that i want it too
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01:43.23Neutron83read my post @ development & hackin on xda
01:43.37Neutron83i wrote down what i learned the past days
01:44.21Neutron83and im realy confused why its not working , or should i say no one realy can say me how to get closer / gon on
01:48.58Neutron83can u gimme more info ?
01:49.33ALoGeNolo
01:49.40Neutron83hey ALoGeNo
01:50.07ALoGeNohi :)
01:50.17Neutron83are u fine ?
01:50.38ALoGeNooh thank for ask, yes im not bad at all ^^
01:50.53Neutron83good good
01:50.57ALoGeNohehe
01:51.18Neutron83im a bit stressed as i am not comin forward in my dev ....
01:51.53ALoGeNoi have dome feeling of love and hate for the acx module and the htc universal kernel but all is fine ^^'
01:52.08ALoGeNosome*
01:52.38Neutron83today i was near buying myself an HTC touch diamond cause im not getting into the framebuffer shit
01:53.09Neutron83but stuck cause  i then better buy an Raphael myself
01:53.11ALoGeNooh man.., i was have that left the kernels and modules stuff for a few days becose im crazy day and nigth without sleep and with pain head ^^
01:53.28Neutron83hehe man
01:53.36Neutron83you'r like me
01:53.49Neutron83i did about 500 kernels for testing
01:53.54ALoGeNooh you are lucky becose maybe druidu can help you later ^^
01:53.57Neutron83non worked
01:54.13Neutron83but when will he come online
01:54.20ALoGeNohahaha yeah!! hell yeah!! 500 mee too haha lol
01:54.25Neutron83cause its 3:00 in mornin
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01:54.35Neutron83its pain in the ass
01:54.41ALoGeNoyeah man, im with the same but with the wifi driver ^^
01:54.57Neutron83i see ...
01:55.02ALoGeNosure.. is the fucking pain of ass hahaha
01:55.45ALoGeNoi have my ass like the rubik's cube
01:55.47ALoGeNo^^
01:55.52Neutron83haha
01:56.01Neutron83acx100 driver ??
01:56.15Neutron83i got that shit in an WIFI pcmcia card
01:56.30Neutron83took me about 2 weeks to get it work correctly
01:56.35ALoGeNoyeah that bitch.. of driver but is build in the board ^^
01:56.41Neutron83with 4 firmware changes
01:56.46ALoGeNoaham..
01:57.25Neutron83as i remember i did that with dumped firmware stuff you needed to change some byte in it after reversing it
01:57.38ALoGeNoi have another issue qith another wifi driver prism2 in this case with 2511CD senao and jlime in the mp900c
01:57.59Neutron83is there a native driver already ? or is it sill with firmware dump ?
01:58.22ALoGeNoi think that isnt a firmaware problem becose i was tested all the collection, this is a kernel and development problem maybe mem.c and stuff
01:58.40Neutron83i c
02:00.09Neutron83wich driver do you use ?
02:01.30ALoGeNoyeah.., the OE guys have linux-rp_2.6.2X 3, 4, and 6 qith htcuni patches but we have toomany changes between 2.6.21 hernel and 2.6.26 kernel and i think that is a work for professionals ^^
02:01.30ALoGeNoim using the last driver build for that device with the last kernel, 2.6.21hh20
02:02.15ALoGeNoand firmware 1.9.8b becose is more stable than 1.10.7d or so.
02:02.58ALoGeNowe have injection and so, mode monitor and that but the driver is much inestable..
02:02.58ALoGeNounestable*
02:03.03Neutron83ahh okay
02:03.26Neutron83so you dont need to re'port' the driver to the device
02:03.40ALoGeNoand this is the pain in the ass..
02:04.27Neutron83~seen druidu
02:04.30aptdruidu <n=root@213.164.231.5> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2d 3h 38m 22s ago, saying: 'szsoftware : like linux boot logo?'.
02:04.57Neutron83hmmmmmmm seems he wont get online
02:05.01Neutron83like cr2
02:05.03Neutron83:-P
02:07.03Neutron83hmmm any of you know how to dump of a RADIO rom  ??
02:07.32Neutron83from shift
02:07.47Neutron83as i'd like to get that reversed
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02:10.06Neutron83hmmm any of you know how to dump of a RADIO rom  ??
02:10.28drasarHi there. Can I have a question about hh kernel?
02:10.51Neutron83ask and lets see if anyone can help
02:10.57Neutron83possibly not me :P
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02:15.35drasarGPDR(60) |= GPIO_bit(60); What is this good for?
02:16.05Neutron83do not know look for your device what gpio60 does
02:16.06Neutron83?
02:17.28aloarrrrr.. some netsplit??
02:18.16drasarNeutron83: I know what GPIO60 does (it's an example), but I don't understand that OR association
02:18.46aloim not developer ^^ betatester maybe :)
02:18.50Neutron83dunno either
02:19.25Neutron83drasar, hmm try ask in #androin or #kernel for it
02:20.40drasarNeutron83: So question is why pin's direction is set this way?
02:21.07drasarNeutron83: ok, thanks
02:30.40tmztdrasar: what device is it? sounds like pxa
02:31.59drasartmzt: Himalaya
02:33.52tmztwhat are you trying to find on hima? what is gpio60?
02:34.24drasartmzt: usb power
02:35.06tmztso you are trying to set that to output? is that what 1 means?
02:39.21drasartmzt: Yes. I have found that it's done this way in 2.6.12 kernel, but I don't understand that OR association
02:41.34tmzt<PROTECTED>
02:41.52tmztso it sets the bits that are set in GPIO_bit(60) in GPDR(60)
02:42.10tmztGPDR finds the direction register for that gpio
02:42.21tmztand GPIO_bit sets the appropriate bit for that register
02:56.09drasartmzt: Thanks, it's finally clear to me now :)
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02:57.05tmztsure, what are you doing with hh.org on hima?
02:58.26ALoGeNowow
02:58.32ALoGeNonice split..
02:58.38ALoGeNohi tmzt
02:58.47tmzthi
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03:00.03drasartmzt: And could arise any situation to have that GPIO as input?
03:01.05tmztif it's the VBUS pullup? don't know
03:01.33drasartmzt: I'm trying to get working some parts on hima with 2.6.21-hh20 kernel
03:01.37tmztI mean, if it's the usb pullup
03:01.44tmztwhat is not working?
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03:06.10drasartmzt: usb, battery charging, touchscreen, ... But it's in some cases just GPIO setting issue
03:07.01tmztok, touchscreen is a known chip?
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03:07.28tmztso you have VBUS detect? (input) and usb pullup (output) ?
03:08.02tmztyou can look at apache on that kernel, I think usb works on there
03:08.14drasartmzt: touchscreen should be the same as on blueangel
03:10.29drasartmzt: usb and battery I've got working already :)
03:12.00tmztnice
03:12.05tmztdoes sd card work?
03:12.35drasartmzt: yes, sd is working
03:12.49tmztit's asic3_mmc?
03:13.53drasartmzt: I think so
03:14.29tmztthat's what cr2_ said we need to get 2.6.26 working, so same as uni then
03:16.34drasartmzt: Some notices I've got at http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/comparison.txt
03:19.21drasartmzt: Thanks for advices, it's time to go to bed. It's 4.18 AM here :)
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09:13.25BHSPitLappyhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2881833
09:16.30BHSPitLappy^ First documentation of Linux on the StarTrek, if anyone's interested
09:16.44BHSPitLappyI hope this jump-starts some interest
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12:14.18dcordesstar trek one of the omap850 smartphones ?
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13:39.10dcordeshi
13:39.30dcordesKevin2, ping
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13:42.11Kevin2dcordes: pong
13:42.33kimushi, i'm trying to execute linload on my pda and is giving a "undefined MTYPE" error
13:44.44Kevin2kimus: What device?  You probably need to add your device/mtype to haret, or add an explicit mtype to the startup script.
13:45.23kimusKevin2:  is a Prophet
13:47.45Kevin2Did you download the linload package from some where?  Or did you build it yourself?
13:48.14kimusdownloaded from here: http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/O.P.I.E-II/
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13:49.43kimusi know it's for magician but linwizard loads fine also... :-)
13:52.27kimusbrb
13:52.30Kevin2I don't think that will work.  Magician is a pxa based device.  I think wizard and prophet are omap based.
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13:58.26dcordes_yea omap850
13:59.01dcordes_kimus, I know linwizard kernels work (partly) on the magician
13:59.11dcordes_Kevin2, I have a question about the linuxtogo git
13:59.48dcordes_Kevin2, the situation with msm7xxxx kernel there is getting a bit confusing
14:01.16dcordes_Kevin2, there are 3 branches for msm code: htc-msm has code for the kaiser and polaris, htc-vogue is for the vogue and htc-msm-2.6.25 is for raphael and diamond
14:02.27dcordes_htc-msm is at 2.6.24, htc-vogue and htc-msm-2.6.25 are 2.6.25. now for the kaiser and polaris there is more recent code which is also .25.
14:03.05dcordes_kimus, sorry I mean linwizard works on prophet, not magician.
14:03.54dcordes_Kevin2, the bottom line is, I would like to push the latest code for kaiser and polaris, which would add a 4th branch for msm code
14:04.07dcordes_in case it would not be merged somehwere
14:05.58Kevin2What do you mean by "push the latest code"?
14:06.41dcordes_Kevin2, make it available from git.
14:07.16dcordes_latest polaris and kaiser are based on the google branch for the g1 phone, so basically the most recent upstream msm code
14:07.22dcordes_as is htc-msm-2.6.25
14:12.19Kevin2So, you want to pull in latest google branch into linuxtogo git?
14:17.14Kevin2dcordes_: I recommend you keep a branch on linuxtogo that purely mirrors the branch on the official google site.  Once you do that, one can easily merge any "work" branches.
14:17.45Kevin2s/merge any/merge upstream changes to any/
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14:22.37dcordes_Kevin2, sorry was on the phone
14:23.02dcordes_Kevin2, what you suggest is what pH5 has done with the htc-msm-2.6.25 branch
14:23.26dcordes_I would just push the latest kaiser and polaris code in there but I can't make it work parallel
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14:28.21MnemonicPunkHello! =) Are there any Ubuntu MID images for HTCs yet?
14:31.16hairyravenо_О
14:33.05Kevin2dcordes_: What do you mean by "make it work parallel"?
14:33.56dcordes_Kevin2, I tried to merge the polaris/kaiser(msm7200) and raphael/diamond(msm7201A) into the g1 branch
14:34.08dcordes_they compiled but didn't boot
14:34.18Kevin2You don't want to push any local developments into the "mirror" branch.  You want the "mirror" branch to just mirror the google site.
14:34.30Kevin2What's the "g1" branch?
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14:42.54dcordes_Kevin2, http://git.android.com/?p=kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=android-msm-htc-2.6.25 this one
14:43.21dcordes_Kevin2, pH5 pushed htc-msm-2.6.25 as a remote tracking branch of that branch
14:43.32dcordes_Kevin2, then we pushed the diamond/raphael code
14:46.01MnemonicPunkWhat about android on the magician? Any images for that?
14:46.24Kevin2dcordes_: I'm confused by your use of "push".
14:46.42dcordes_s/pushed/commited/
14:46.42dcordes_?
14:46.55dcordes_sorry, I'm not sure about the difference
14:47.23Kevin2Okay - that's not really a very good way to do things.  You want to keep a pristine branch with nothing but the original.
14:47.36Kevin2Then, you copy that to a new branch, and commit your changes to that new "work" branch.
14:48.01Kevin2Then, you can keep the pristine branch in synch with the main source (google).
14:48.12Kevin2When you want to merge, you merge the pristine branch with the work branch.
14:48.32Kevin2(That is, you apply the changes on the pristine branch back into your work branch.)
14:50.32dcordes_ah ok. So the htc-msm-2.6.25 branch is not tracking a pristine android-msm-htc-2.6.25 ? I thought pH5 managed it that way
14:51.30Kevin2Well, if you committed changes to that branch, then it is no longer pristine.
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14:54.18dcordes_now I'm confused, I thought we want two branches
14:56.21szsoftwaredcordes_: did you read my latest statements regarding branch htc-msm-2.6.25 (diam/raph)?
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14:56.33kimusdcordes_:  so, Is there some gui dist on my prophet?
14:57.56Kevin2dcordes_: Yes.  You want two branches.  One pristine and one work.
14:57.58szsoftwaredcordes_: very latest devel for polaris (merged work from dzo) will be on htc-msm-2.6.25 (i work with that, becaus I see no reason why not)
14:58.45szsoftwaredcordes_: got  dzo's vogue-ts.c and msm_fb stuff almost fully merged with htc-msm-2.6.25
14:59.39szsoftwaredcordes_: from night to night know more and more about ts and fb stuff, think it will be my main work.
15:01.06milfadoodleThese guys seems to have moviNAND working: http://osdir.com/ml/linux.ports.arm.omap/2007-03/msg00106.html
15:04.01dcordes_Kevin2, ok any way we can make that happen with the current htc-msm-2.6.25 branch?
15:04.04dcordes_the two-branch thing
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15:11.31Kevin2dcordes_: Yes.  The content in htc-msm-2.6.25 needs to become the work branch, and a branch with just pristine data needs to be made.  I'm not sure how you want to proceed on names though.  Do you want "htc-msm-2.6.25" to be the work branch, or do you want to create a new work branch name?
15:13.21dcordes_Kevin2, maybe it would be best to keep the google name for the pristine branch. what do you think?
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15:16.10Kevin2Your call.
15:16.24dcordes_android-msm-htc-2.6.25 then
15:16.41dcordes_I see no reaseon for putting put a different name if they are 1:1
15:18.25dcordes_Kevin2, can you provide a hint how to reorganize? I'm not too good with git
15:20.36Neutron83hi dcordes
15:20.58dcordes_Neutron83, hi
15:20.59Kevin2dcordes_: I'll look.  Hold on.
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15:28.28Kevin2dcordes_: I think I see how to do it.  Are you okay with me making a "android-msm-htc-2.6.25" branch?
15:28.43dcordes_Kevin2, as the pristine?
15:29.22Kevin2Yes.
15:30.12dcordes_Kevin2, ok with me
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15:30.42dcordes_Kevin2, it would be nice if you could show me how to pull in the latest changes from the remote in the pristine branch
15:30.53dcordes_so I can uptade it frequently. or should we automate this with cron or so?
15:33.20Kevin2dcordes_: I agree.  You can login to linuxtogo.org and run "~kevin/bin/gitmainline".  That will synch both android and kernel.org branches.
15:33.23szsoftwareKevin2: can we hide very old htc-msm? (2.6.25)
15:33.48Kevin2szsoftware: What do you mean by "hide"?  We can delete it if it is no longer used.
15:34.05szsoftwareups 2.6.24
15:34.15dcordes_Kevin2, it is obsolete from the device driver aspect and not updated with the upstream code
15:34.58Kevin2It's possible to delete a branch.  I'm not sure what you mean by "hide" it.
15:35.06dcordes_imho we should keep it until we got kaiser and polaris g1 based stuff in git (in whatever way, sepearte branch or > htc-msm-2.6.25)
15:35.46Kevin2The "android-msm-htc-2.6.25" is ready.
15:36.14dcordes_ok thanks
15:36.38dcordes_Kevin2, must we "link" it in some way with htc-msm-2.6.25 ?
15:36.53dcordes_or is the rebase part done manually?
15:37.15szsoftwareKevin2: did'nt want to be so radical. IMHO we can delete it, yes
15:38.28Kevin2szsoftware: Send a note to the mailing list suggesting it be deleted.  If no one objects in two weeks, we'll delete it.
15:38.29dcordes_not yet. there is no alternative to it in any VCS
15:38.56dcordes_szsoftware, see my statement regarding this above
15:39.22Kevin2dcordes_: I don't know of any "link" on a branch.  Just run the script ~kevin/bin/gitmainline to regularly pull in recent changes.
15:39.48dcordes_Kevin2, I mean the whole remote tracking thing
15:41.51Kevin2dcordes_: I don't know of anything other than what I said above.
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15:42.25dcordes_Kevin2, ok thanks a lot then.
15:42.41dcordes_I will bbl, bye
15:42.48szsoftwarebbl too
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18:06.33MrObviousSweet.
18:06.34MrObviouslol
18:06.57MrObviousAnyone know if there is an Android or Linux for the 6800?
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18:28.53dushmaniacwelcome to #idle. please don't speak ;-)
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18:59.12marajindushmaniac: Ssssh!
19:02.00d0netshey im trying to pick out a microsd card
19:02.09marajinum and?
19:02.13d0netswhats the diff between transflash and non transflash
19:02.36marajiner transflash is MicroSD's earlier style
19:02.45marajinanything that reads MicroSD can read Transflash
19:02.53d0netsso non TF is better?
19:03.01marajinanything that reads transflash may not necessarily work 100% with MicroSD
19:03.14d0netsok so micro sd is better
19:03.20marajiner, well 'non transflash' is a confusing term to use, if it's branded 'MicroSD' is best
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19:03.51d0netsok
19:03.58d0netsbut they say micro sd , transflash
19:05.05d0netshttp://cgi.ebay.com/SanDisk-16GB-Micro-SD-SDHC-MicroSD-Memory-Card-16-G-GB_W0QQitemZ200263215960QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDigital_Camera_Memory_Cards?hash=item200263215960&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1308
19:05.15d0netslemme know if that link works or not
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20:29.02tmztMrObvious: that's the titan, there is some support for pre-1.0 android
20:30.17MangledPolytmzt any luck on the hermes yet?
20:33.43tmztMangledPoly: someone was working on it a day ago, not sure what your asking?
20:34.02MangledPolyif andriod port is working on it yet?
20:34.55tmztthat would need changes to the fb driver, which should not be difficult
20:35.18tmztI don't know if android will run on the earlier hh.org kernels, for other reasons, though
20:35.27MangledPolyoh ok
20:44.03szsoftware|awaywho knows a little about gpio stuff? Example: When I press Cam-Button deeply on Polaris (maybe on Kaiser too), in the Console is "1" written. Where is the function, which does it?
20:52.52infernixdcordes: ping
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20:54.35infernixmarajin: you have a kaiser too, right?
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21:08.44dcordes_infernix, pong
21:08.50infernixhey
21:09.00infernixim planning on taking up dzo on his offer
21:09.10dcordes_which?
21:10.17infernixhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2878170&postcount=1617
21:10.21infernixsee the end of that thread
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21:10.42infernixim not sure, maybe you should coordinate the paypal thing, people are likely to trust you more since they know you better
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21:13.13infernixdcordes_: if we have enough people that are willing to pay a little, that's going to be cheaper than buying a g1
21:13.28infernixi think its worth trying, not sure what you think?
21:14.22dcordes_I can send my kaiser to new zealand no problem
21:15.03infernixyeah but it would be better to get him one of his own
21:15.23infernixif not for development reasons then at least as a "thank you for your efforts"
21:15.50infernixbut you're in the middle of it, how many people do you think would join in?
21:15.54dcordes_ok but then I want a raphael ;)
21:16.00ducamielol
21:16.21dcordes_isn't .co.nz pretty much cdma only?
21:16.22infernixraphaels don't go for 100 euros on ebays :)
21:16.31ducamieyeah it is
21:16.33infernixas in, he can't use it anyway?
21:16.40dcordes_so why would it be any reward if you would give him a free one
21:16.43dcordes_right
21:16.50infernixdoh
21:16.54infernixsmall oversight :s
21:17.32infernixok so send yours then? :p
21:17.45infernixwell in that case i don't have to worry and i could go for the one with the cracked display
21:17.50dcordes_probably. it's my main phone now, I would need decent replacement
21:17.55infernixwhich might make total cost 125 euros
21:18.12dcordes_we could try PIO
21:18.20dcordes_barry also proposed that
21:18.50infernixwell its just an idea
21:18.54infernix10 people, 125 euros
21:19.08infernixyou can't even ship yours to NZ for those 12 euros
21:19.36dcordes_hm how much is the raphael in eu
21:19.39infernixthe real question is can we get 10 people to donate 12 euros
21:19.51dcordes_600 euros?
21:20.18dcordes_infernix, do you need your kaiser atm?
21:20.20szsoftwareinfernix: I'm willing to donate 12 EUR
21:20.27infernixdcordes_: every day
21:21.06infernixi see two touch pro's for 100 euros
21:21.09infernixand more for 275+
21:21.16dcordes_infernix, where do you see 120 euro kaiser on ebay?
21:21.23infernixdutch ebay called marktplaats
21:21.28dcordes_link?
21:21.29infernixits not ebay
21:21.31infernixmarktplaats.nl
21:21.49infernixebay never got their foot in the marketplace here in .nl
21:22.01infernixmarkplaats is the  place to go for 2nd hand stuff in.nl
21:22.11dcordes_is    Prijs = "buy now" price ?
21:22.47infernixthere is no buy now
21:22.50infernixnor is there integrated payment
21:23.01dcordes_infernix, I see one for 140 euros
21:23.11dcordes_but what is Prijs then?
21:24.57infernixyou either bid, or mail them to negotiate a deal
21:25.06infernixbut in the end its usually by email
21:29.11infernixtouch pro goes for 300
21:29.24infernixresponded to two ads in which it goes for 100, but it seems shady
21:32.44dcordes_300 seems shady as well
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21:37.01szsoftwaredcordes_: do you know about Cam Button depp pressed?
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21:41.34infernixdcordes_: there's dozens between 300-400
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21:46.03dcordes_I will take a nap
21:46.04dcordes_good night
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22:01.23kaze_hi there infernix, count me in for 20euros for the dzo kaiser fundraiser
22:01.50infernixkaze_: mind putting that in PM on xda forums?
22:01.55kaze_done
22:01.58infernixthanks
22:02.11kaze_btw on xda im eezak
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22:42.04MrObvioustmzt: What is?
22:42.09MrObviousSorry I was AFK.
22:42.21MrObviousI was wondering about Android on the Mogul and if it was working.
22:42.40MrObviousI've been able to use the Vogue but of course the keyboard don't work.
22:43.18tmztlook for zImage-sidebuttons only the zImage seems to be available, no source
22:43.29tmztand 6800 and Mogul are HTC Titan
22:45.11MrObviousI knew that second part.
22:45.12MrObviouslol
22:45.27MrObvioustmzt: So where do I look exactly?
22:46.31tmzt<PROTECTED>
22:46.40tmztI thought you were responding to that
22:46.41tmztsorry
22:46.45MrObviousHaha.
22:46.49MrObviousGot a link or something?
22:47.03tmztit's been pasted here before, but I can't remember it
22:47.03MrObviousI heard something about they have support for the hardware keyboard.
22:47.09MrObvious:\
22:47.17MrObviousIs it the same page as the Vogue on?
22:47.19MrObvious*one
22:47.19tmztthat zImage has support for the hw keyboard
22:47.21tmztno
22:47.27MrObviousOk.
22:47.43tmztsearching for zImage-sidebuttons gives you nothing?
22:47.45tmztgoogle
22:47.50MrObviouswww.google.com
22:48.15MrObvioushttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Fp%3D2879608&ei=nGgXSereLpzWMa6z_ZYJ&usg=AFQjCNHUGIwt0uPk5E5OXkcD-eYLq63otQ&sig2=UcJvhXEPkZlJA-DeFVm1MA
22:48.16MrObviousJust that.
22:48.22MrObvioushttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2879608 Err
22:48.24MrObviouslol
22:49.14MrObviousMaybe it's on that thread.
22:49.37tmztit was, second result
22:49.39tmzthttp://wormhole.akropolys.com/htclinux/zImage-sidebuttons
22:49.54tmztthere's other stuff there too http://wormhole.akropolys.com/htclinux/
22:50.08tmztbut the source doesn't support the buttons on the side of the titan, including power
22:50.17tmztso you can't resume when it goes to sleep
22:50.44tmztI think that thread might have what your looking for, but I haven't read it yet
22:51.10tmztif nothing else, you should be able to use the dzo vogue initrd's for android
22:52.08MrObviousYeah the Vogue works but hmm.
22:52.18MrObviousMaybe I'll have to wait a bit yet.
23:10.27tmztwhat doesn't work?
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