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03:46.21bertramt2i just did a video of my sprint touch pro booting the zImage from NetRipper, hopefully it will help figure out what is going on and help get the frame buffer workng
03:46.56Gentoonwhat userspace are you using?
03:50.08bertramt2thats a good question... I can't say I'm sure.  It is an android.bin file but I don't know where i got it.
03:51.56bertramt2not that i can do anything, it boots, i can calibrate the screen, and it leaves me at a prompt
03:53.19Gentoonhave you enabled double bufering?
03:53.46Gentoonoh i thought you said you had fb problems
03:53.49bertramt2how do i do that?
03:54.17Gentoonnvm you wouldnt be able to init without bouble buffering
03:55.23Gentoondouble
03:56.26bertramt2I'm going to have to do something about that video before I could send it off it is 343MB
03:57.00bertramt2but hopefully it will help to see what it does when booting.
03:57.58bertramt2NetRipper was having me look for msm_fb in boot up.... I don't see that anyplace
04:01.02bertramt2i see htc_fb-1 enabled
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08:19.29parmasterlifegrasp: has anyone had any luck with the CDMA modem on the Hermann?
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09:07.03sir0xgood morning @ all
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10:21.45dcordesmorning
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10:24.20sir0xmorning
10:24.46ALoGeNomorning
10:29.34dcordesalo
10:30.25dcordesrm stated it would be pointless putting the ti1251 in your old hh tree
10:30.33dcordesand he's righ i guess
10:31.00dcordesyou should look into going .25 or .26 with uni first
10:31.15rmhello
10:31.17rmyes
10:31.22dcordeshi rm
10:31.34dcordesyou also have the uni, right?
10:31.43rmunfortunately I went to sleep and slept for 12 hours yesterday, so did no hacking :)
10:31.50rmyes, I do
10:35.47dcordesman I wish I could do thats still
10:36.24dcordesnow I have to get up at six in the morning and do nasty jobs
10:37.10dcordesso what is the latest kernel version you can boot on universal?
10:40.29rmI did not try newer than 2.6.21 yet
10:41.50dcordesok
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10:52.35ALoGeNoomg! that is awesome! dcordes rm =D
10:55.58ALoGeNoi was remember that dcordes was used "acx htc universal" in google i just doing the same way.. and i find angstrom repo with new firmware for 4700 and uni
10:56.01ALoGeNohttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?pkgname=acx-firmware
10:56.03ALoGeNo^^
10:59.38ALoGeNohey rm can i help in something?
10:59.42rmdid you try it yet?
10:59.48kaze_work:)
11:00.18ALoGeNono i was find that rigth now ^^
11:00.36ALoGeNohi kaze :)
11:01.10ALoGeNoi go try
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11:21.05ALoGeNothis firmware is the last axc from the acx100 web rm
11:21.13ALoGeNo1.10.7
11:21.26rmdoes it work?
11:22.07ALoGeNowork llike allways..
11:22.13ALoGeNowrong..
11:22.26ALoGeNoletme check at all
11:24.22ALoGeNosame crap :/
11:25.26ALoGeNowhen i try to put big files hangs...
11:25.53ALoGeNoand i need to do ifdown wlan1
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11:29.46craigaddcordes, sorted out my build problem from the other night won't boot though how do I get the latest devs or diffs
11:30.08rmALoGeNo, why do you have wlan1?
11:30.12rmwhy not wlan0?
11:30.50ALoGeNoi dunno, i think that is a udev stuff
11:31.18rmnote that titchy-network-settings if-up script enforces rate of 1M only for wlan0
11:32.12rmopen /etc/network/if-up.d/titchy-network-settings
11:32.16ALoGeNookey, let me see if i can change that but it is in this way from the begginig
11:32.35rmand add a similar entry for wlan1 there
11:32.45rmsimilar to the one it has for wlan0
11:32.56ALoGeNoin any case dont work in 1M like in 22M
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11:33.57ALoGeNoissue_cmd and many FAILED stuff.. :/
11:34.24ALoGeNobut thanks by the trick
11:35.26dcordescraigad hi I don't understand your question
11:38.26craigaddcordes , is the htc-msm branch on ltg the latest one that I should be using?
11:38.45craigaddcordes for polaris
11:41.34dcordesyea for now
11:42.04dcordesI will push suppoer for htc nike to htc-msm in the evening
11:42.15dcordesCET evening :)
11:42.35ALoGeNodcordes and uni?
11:42.38ALoGeNohiihihi
11:42.41ALoGeNoj/k
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11:44.11craigaddcordes I would like to try and help with polaris devs if I can
11:44.24craigaddcordes that's ok I am gmt
11:47.46dcordescraigad i can provide you with some info after I pushed the nike patches
11:48.03dcordess/info/info on polaris/
11:48.24dcordesbasically it is kaiser w/o keyboard.
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12:21.39Neutron83~seen cr2
12:21.42aptcr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 5d 19h 41m 19s ago, saying: 'Neutron83: can you run haret commands ?'.
12:21.59Neutron83yes i can .... but where the hell are you cr2 ??
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12:25.11kiozen... lost in time and space ... and the meaning
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12:27.38szsoftwaredcordes: hey, your're not @work?
12:29.00NetRipperNeutron83, i think i read something about him moving appartments
12:33.51szsoftwaredcordes: I'm working now with git.linuxtogo.org's htc-msm-2.6.25 as a base for Polaris development. I have adapted/generated kaiser+polaris patch to this tree.
12:35.05szsoftwaredcordes: dzo's virtual keyboard works again (old portrait mode), but with the broken symbols (it never worked for me).
12:37.01szsoftwaredcordes: dzo's new virtual keyboard (with android_keyboard_fs.c) is almost working.
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12:38.45szsoftwaredcordes: going to modularize the vkeyboard code from vogue-ts.c, so we possibly can choose between different vkbd's, including druidu's vkbd as a next step.
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13:13.05dream_kill_officnetripper : did u tested the files :P ?
13:14.17craigadszsoftware should I use htc-msm-2.6.25 branch then?
13:17.03szsoftwarecraigad: you also have polaris?
13:17.35craigadszsoftware yeap!
13:17.48szsoftwarewich branch do use currently?
13:18.50craigadszsoftware , htc-msm
13:19.04szsoftwarecraigad: is'nt it 2.6.24?
13:19.15szsoftwarecraigad: some month ago?
13:20.04NetRipperdream_kill_offic, yes, doesn't boot
13:20.22NetRipperdream_kill_offic, i used the trout mtype (1440) which should be what is used for htc dream/g1
13:21.26NetRipperdream_kill_offic, the initrd is interesting though, but nothing we can use as long as we dont have sd card yet
13:22.33craigadszsoftware, not sure using the readme kaiser boot kit on ltg
13:23.59craigadszsoftware not at my machine right now, at work
13:27.00dream_kill_offick
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13:38.06szsoftwarecraigad: I will ask dcordes how I can provide my patches, against whatever. As soon as we have working vkbd in 2.6.25 you should use the new android git sources with our patches (from http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/index.php?path=diffs/) or branch git.linuxtogo.org / htc-msm-2.6.25 + polaris patches
13:40.52craigadszsoftware that would be cool, thanks
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13:41.35craigadszsoftware I would like to try and help with the polaris if I can
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13:52.25mettertmzt, you talked about someone that tried to boot 1.0. did he upload the file somewhere?
13:52.33metterchicago iirc
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14:05.42dcordesszsoftwareo k I just read the scrallback
14:06.50dcordeswell yes I'ma t work
14:08.04dcordesjust usin the free time between collecting bags of old people's shit and trasporting their pissed laundry.
14:11.25metterwhat a job description^^
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14:18.10szsoftwaredcordes: I know that frommy own experience when I was young and needed the money :-P
14:19.26dcordesIf this wasn't public service I would try go maintain small networks or so
14:20.01dcordesbut in my area nothing like that was available
14:24.32szsoftwaredcordes: I just try to sort out, why dzo's msm_display_base values differ from that, how I can get it working on polaris. Is this maybe display panning related?
14:24.49dcordesso now I work in the sector of facility mangement and feces routing.
14:25.21kiozendcordes: take it easy. I didn't collect faeces but  bodies (or what ever is close to this). Not much fun either
14:25.29szsoftwaredcordes: simply, when I didn't see the keyboard, it was only on wrong position
14:27.53dcordesszsoftware I don't understand the problem
14:28.36dcordesdruidu detailed on how to resize the keyboard pixmaps to make it work with qvgad isplays
14:29.06dcordeskiozen you worked in a hospital back then
14:29.09dcordes?
14:29.18kiozenon an ambulance
14:29.58szsoftwaredcordes: I only want to understand this stuff, I just learn about msm_display_base and it's values :-)
14:30.10NetRipperhm
14:30.18NetRippermsm sound driver
14:30.22NetRipperhttp://android.git.kernel.org/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/android-msm-htc-2.6.25
14:31.01dcordesNetRipper what about it?
14:31.25NetRipperuseful perhaps?
14:31.33bertramtNetRipper, I have a video of my phone booting, any interest in watching it to see what you can learn?
14:31.52NetRipperbertramt, is it readable
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14:32.05dcordesNetRipper I would rebalance priority there. you tried SD on your raph?
14:32.32NetRipperdcordes, no - dont worry, i was looking for sd card stuff when coming across that
14:32.35dcordesbertramt you talk about raph800?
14:32.41bertramtNetRipper, it isn't to bad
14:32.42szsoftwaredcordes: kiozen: do we all have helping syndrom? I worked in a hospital a lot of months, even on cancer station for some months, with ... ok ... a lot of bodys.
14:32.47bertramtyeah I am
14:32.53NetRipperbertramt, i need to know if there are msmfb* messages
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14:33.07szsoftwaredcordes: or do we have dark souls?  haha
14:33.08bertramtNetRipper, I didn't see any
14:33.23kiozenszsoftware: no, I just thought it's better than getting drunk in the army
14:33.29dcordesszsoftware I didn't see anybody dying yet
14:33.50dcordesbut 2 people died in the buildings since I started on monday
14:34.02NetRipperhillsdale, hi - about what you pasted yesterday, it was msm_ts what you saw, not msm_fb, the msm_ts messages are a result of msm_fb not working
14:34.03szsoftwaredcordes: bad karma :-)
14:34.05kiozendcordes: because of you :P?
14:34.50dcordesthere are like 250 old people
14:35.00szsoftwaredcordes: it's your black console! It's a bad omen for your environment..
14:35.10bertramtNetRipper, the thing i've seen FB related is console [htc_fb-1] enabled
14:35.14dcordeswell, 248
14:35.23szsoftwaredcordes: lol
14:35.48dcordesand many look and sound very old
14:36.08dcordesso I hope it was only coincidence
14:36.50szsoftwaredcordes: don't matter, I still believe, you're the good guy ;-)
14:37.48szsoftwarekiozen: may I ask where you're located?
14:38.17kiozenregensburg
14:38.22hillsdaleNetripper, hi!  Yeah, I figured that out as I finished typing.  :)
14:38.33szsoftwarekiozen: it's quite south germany?
14:38.42kiozenlol yes
14:38.59kiozenright on the "weisswurstäquator"
14:39.11szsoftwarekiozen: so you can meet cr2 and hold conferences, yeah? :-)
14:39.28hillsdaleNetRipper - I'm in my office now, and I've got a working build environment, so if you have any ideas for narrowing things down let me know.
14:39.30kiozenyes, my family is from munich
14:39.52hillsdaleI tried instrumenting msm_fb with printks, but nothing seemed to get called at all.
14:39.55NetRipperhillsdale, add printk's to msm_fb driver
14:40.00hillsdaleheh
14:40.03NetRipper;)
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14:40.12NetRippermodule_init should work at the very least
14:40.33hillsdaleI'll take another look.
14:40.39szsoftwarewe should setup a conference of htc-coding :-)
14:41.05dvyjonesHow doI convert a compressed ramdisk ext2 img into the initrd ELF format?
14:41.13dcordeswhat is neded to boot raph800?,
14:41.16kiozenimho this would really help
14:41.23dcordesbbiab need to ask boss for work
14:41.44NetRipperdcordes, boot of raph800 works with druidu's console, just msm_fb doesn't work
14:42.20szsoftwarekiozen: What about htc-linux roomon next linux-day in berlin? :-)
14:42.40szsoftwareNetRipper: hi, where are you from?
14:42.51NetRipper/whois netripper
14:42.51NetRipper;)
14:43.11szsoftwareI remember NL?
14:43.15bertramtyou even get to calibrate the screen on the raph800
14:43.15NetRipperyes
14:43.17NetRipperrotterdam
14:43.47szsoftwareNetRipper: will jai ok lekker skiing?
14:43.53kiozenszsoftware: don't think that is productive, better a small place with silence
14:44.26NetRipperszsoftware, err, that's not dutch, and no i dont do winter sports ;)
14:44.27szsoftwarekiozen: right, we can move to my flat near "Brandenburger Tor" :-P
14:44.55szsoftwareNetRipper: Don't beat me :-)
14:45.13NetRipperi should, ruining our language, pff ;)
14:45.51szsoftwareNetRipper: after this winter season I will be better ..
14:46.43NetRipperszsoftware, where are you skiing then, there are no places in the netherlands for that except indoors
14:47.45szsoftwareNetRipper: Serfaus/Tirol. Will be there in four weeks and will stay there for five months.
14:48.23hillsdaleNetRipper - what does the "console handover" line say when you boot?
14:48.34dcordesre
14:48.35dcordesok
14:49.25szsoftwareNetRipper: back to topic, do you know a little about msm_fb?
14:49.35dcordesNetRipper so no changes to the htc-msm-2.6.25 kernel are required in order to boot raph800?
14:50.08NetRipperhillsdale, the same as yours, but in my case the msm_fb does get initialized, and as such, the handover will take place
14:50.20hillsdaleDoes it reference htc_fb?
14:50.24NetRipperhaven't checked
14:50.36NetRipperdcordes, there will be to get msm_fb to work on raph800
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14:50.41szsoftwaredcordes: do you want' apply my kaiser+poaris+nowifi patch to htc-msm-2.6.25? In my local tree it works like a charm
14:50.47NetRipperdcordes, druidu's console doesn't boot android afaik
14:50.52hillsdaleI'm wondering if it might be picking the wrong framebuffer to start with
14:51.05dcordesNetRipper I thought on the raph100 we don't use it either?
14:51.14NetRipperdcordes, we use msm_fb on raph100
14:51.18dcordesNetRipper or am i mixing it with fbcon?
14:51.26dcordesok then
14:51.26NetRipperdcordes, boot console is druidu, then it hands it over to msm_fb
14:51.41dcordesah I understand
14:52.13dcordesso with the git code it only works with druiducon on raph800
14:52.17dcordes?
14:52.18NetRipperyes
14:52.25dcordesgok bbl
14:54.28hillsdaleI'm just not seeing anything from my msm_fb printks.  KERN_INFO should be good enough for boot messages, right?
14:54.58hillsdaleWhat tells it to use msm_fb in the first place?
14:56.08hillsdaleLooking.  Maybe the mddi bit isn't matching the device correctly?
14:57.05szsoftwarebbl
15:00.23NetRipperhillsdale, it should at least enter the msmfb_init() function
15:00.35NetRipperthe mdp_init() may fail already
15:00.46NetRipperalthough, i checked that code and there's no return value to make it fail ;)
15:01.29hillsdaleI've got a printk right after "int ret" in msmfb_init.  printk(KERN_INFO "got here\n");
15:01.32hillsdaleNothing on the screen
15:01.36NetRipperm
15:01.47NetRipperwhat mtype are you using in default.txt
15:02.02hillsdale1910
15:02.24hillsdaleINITRD android.bin
15:02.37NetRipperk
15:02.37hillsdalecmdline "root=/dev/ram0 ro init=/init console=tty0 mem=94M"
15:03.21hillsdaleThere are magic numbers in mddi that it seems to query from the device
15:03.25hillsdalecould those be different?
15:03.31hillsdaleStarting to instrument that a little...
15:04.08NetRipperim just as much in the dark as you
15:04.09NetRipper:)
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15:08.41hillsdaleok, now I'm seeing messages from msm_fb.  I think I was expecting them too early in the boot process
15:09.10hillsdaledoh.
15:11.23bertramthillsdale, what model do you have?
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15:12.02hillsdaleraph800 (sprint touch pro)
15:13.07bertramthillsdale what did you have to do to see the msm_fb messages?  I'm not seeing any on mine
15:13.42hillsdaleI commented out the console handover in kernel/printk.c, and added printks to msm_fb.c.
15:14.03hillsdaleThe only one that prints is in msmfb_init
15:14.27hillsdaleIt calls mdp_init, which returns 0 (hardcoded), and I'm about to see what happens next
15:15.23hillsdaleI'm not seeing anything from msmfb_probe, so presumably something is going wrong in platform_driver_register.  looking now
15:18.16bertramthillsdale, I did a video of mine running the latest zImage from NetRipper, looking for anything msm_fb and didn't see anything.
15:20.21hillsdaleThat sounds right - you won't see anything unless you modify the code.
15:20.41hillsdaleI'm just trying to walk through via printf debugging to see where things are failing
15:21.56hillsdaleTakes a while because the compile, copy, reboot cycle is a pain.  :)
15:22.58bertramthillsdale, yeah.. I turned off touchflow on my phone to save a little booting time
15:23.31hillsdaledid that too. :)
15:26.32bertramthillsdale, how close do you think you are to getting a working framebuffer?
15:29.28hillsdalefar.  I'm hoping only to narrow it down enough to help someone who knows what they are doing.  :)
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15:31.52bertramtbummer
15:31.52N3m3515hi im playing around with android on my diamond... and i see power options on my screen. after pressing power off the phone hangs. is this normal?
15:32.24dcordesN3m3515 yes.
15:32.37N3m3515thank you
15:32.58hillsdaleactually, I think I just got a clue.
15:33.10dcordesN3m3515 because nobody sorted out pm on diamondr aphael
15:33.13hillsdaleNetRipper, are you still on?
15:33.19dcordesshould be easy though
15:33.33dcordesall the proc comms are documented in the wiki
15:33.46N3m3515its not so important at this stage of development
15:33.48hillsdaleI need someone who can boot gsm to boot without the fb, I'm looking for a particular line
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15:34.38hillsdaleI get "mddi_pmdh: publish: mddi_c_4ca3_0000", which doesn't seem to match any of the constants I can find.
15:35.00hillsdaleI'd like to see what one of the gsm phones returns to check that theory.
15:37.20dcordeshillsdale you get that early output without touching the code?
15:38.30hillsdaleYou'd have to kill the fb loading, I think.  NetRipper has a posted zImage that does that, but I'm not quite sure where he put it now.
15:39.12hillsdaleIf you can compile, commenting out the if statement at line 1184 in kernel/printk.c should do it
15:39.53dcordesI am asking because I think it would be useful to provide this hack for raph800 in git so it is availle to more ppl
15:41.16hillsdaleI'm not sure how NetRipper did it - he might have just config'ed it out.
15:42.03dcordesoh the mystery
15:43.27bertramtset cmdline "root=/dev/ram0 ro init=/init mem=96M console=ttyMSM0"
15:47.02bertramtIf i understand correctly, you change the console in your default.txt it doesn't try to hand of the the fb
15:47.48NetRippercorrect
15:48.15hillsdaleThat's easier.  :)
15:48.23NetRipperand also
15:48.29bertramtNetRipper, will it ever hand off that way?
15:48.42NetRipperbertramt, no
15:48.50NetRipperbertramt, as it's already on the right console, it wont handover then
15:49.48NetRipperhillsdale, to boot to shell, you use console=ttyMSM0, and in kernel menuconfig you unset the 'Use console only during boot' under 'System Type' menu
15:49.58NetRipperthought you had that already
15:50.00hillsdaleNetRipper, digging slowly.  platform_driver_register in msmfb_init gets called, but doesn't look like msmfb_probe ever gets called back
15:50.25NetRipperthat's possible
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15:50.30hillsdaleI didn't know what you had changed, so I've just been commenting out the console handover code.  :)
15:51.24NetRipperhillsdale, ok, i must've been confusd with bertramt
15:52.29NetRipperi may be blind, but i dont see a dependency on msm_fb, so it should probe
15:53.28hillsdaleI don't really get what the mddi stuff is, but I see mddi probing, and returning some magic numbers (manufacturer and model, I think, from the documentation).
15:54.06hillsdaleMy working theory is that they aren't matching somewhere, and so msm_fb doesn't get loaded
15:54.07bertramtNetRipper, I have watch my video over and over again i see no msm_fb anything
15:54.27NetRipperbertramt, if the probe is not called, you indeed wont see msmfb message
15:54.40bertramtbut on the bright side with the video its much much easier to rewatch it:)
15:54.44NetRipperhillsdale, msm_fb is mddi_panel - same thing
15:55.06NetRippermsm_fb driver name is mddi_panel, dont know why
15:55.40NetRipperhillsdale, could be that you have an unknown panel
15:56.17hillsdaleI think that is probably it
15:56.35bertramtis msm_i2c_probe a sensor thing?
15:56.46SanMehatno its the i2c driver
15:56.50hillsdalei2c is different
15:57.43hillsdaleseems like the mddi probe is setting mddi_c_4ca3_0000
15:58.14NetRipperhillsdale, try commenting out a line from board-htcraphael.c: .panel_power    = mddi0_panel_power,
15:58.56bertramtI assume msm_ts is the touchscreen?
15:59.01NetRipperbertramt, yes
16:00.57hillsdalelooks like both mddi_client_dummy and mddi_client_toshiba get probed
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16:01.04hillsdaleI think neither of them match.
16:01.08hillsdalecommenting out now.
16:01.26hillsdaleIf you get a chance, could you post your mddi_c_xxxx_xxxx line?
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16:03.05NetRipperhillsdale, something printed during boot you mean?
16:04.02hillsdaleyeah, there is a line that says something like "mddi publish mddi_c_4ca3_0000"
16:04.15hillsdaleI'm about to add that to the dummy driver to see if I can get a match, but I'm wondering if it
16:04.27hillsdaleis supposed to match the toshiba driver instead, or if I'm just up the wrong trail.
16:04.36hillsdalee:
16:04.45hillsdale(whoops, wrong window)
16:04.45bertramtI don't think I see that line at all
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16:08.04hillsdaleNetRipper, not seeing any difference from changing the panel_power thing.
16:11.12hillsdaleOK, big progress!
16:11.26bertramtspill the beans!
16:12.34hillsdaleI added a platform_driver mddi_client_4ca3_0000 to mddi_client_dummy.c, now it is fully registering the driver.  Still not sure if I should be using dummy or toshiba - will try to go graphical and find out.
16:13.00NetRipperhillsdale, if it's registering the driver you should see graphical glitches
16:13.16NetRipperer, no
16:13.21NetRipperi think that was fixed, nvm that
16:13.48NetRipperyou should just modify ttyMSM0 back to tty0 - then if it works you see graphical glitches ;)
16:14.13hillsdaleWell, I see it calling the msmfb_imageblit code, that seems like a good start.  Let you know in a few minutes (ie a few more reboots).  I'd still love to see the equivalent line from a gsm phone...
16:14.25NetRipperok
16:17.12NetRippermddi_c_d263_0000
16:17.37hillsdaleawesome, that matches the one in mddi_client_toshiba.c
16:17.43NetRippermddi_add_panel(c0358138, c02ad750)
16:17.44hillsdaleSo that is definitely the issue.
16:17.50NetRipperok
16:18.13hillsdaleI guess the question is whether or not I've actually got toshiba hardware.  :)
16:20.28hillsdalerebooting...
16:21.06hillsdaleYEAH BABY I GOT ME A PENGUIN!
16:21.12bertramtsweet!
16:21.29NetRippernice job
16:21.29NetRipper:)
16:21.31hillsdalesadly, followed by complete garbage all over the screen...
16:21.35NetRipperyes
16:21.38NetRipperdisable druidu's console
16:21.47NetRipperuse console=tty0 again
16:21.47NetRipperand
16:22.12NetRipperset 'use console only during boot' under system type in menuconfig again
16:25.16hillsdaleI've got console=tty0, and use console only during boot
16:25.24hillsdaleis there something else to disable druidu's console?
16:25.50NetRipperno
16:25.52NetRipperit should do the handover
16:26.15NetRipperhow messed up does it look? is text partially readable?
16:26.24hillsdaleI'll check that I haven't left code artifacts
16:26.36NetRipperyour printk workaround
16:26.38NetRipper:)
16:26.41hillsdaleI saw a screenful of good text under the penguin, and then it mode changed
16:26.53NetRipperok
16:27.00hillsdaleand I had a white bit up top, and the bottom half mostly green
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16:27.08NetRipperoh
16:27.09hillsdaleshaking around, with some bits changing
16:27.15NetRipperdoesnt sound good
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16:28.01hillsdaleYar.  Debugging hardware way beyond me, but its a step.
16:28.21rmALoGeNo, are you here?
16:34.09NetRipperhillsdale, see ifyou can find out which panel you have
16:34.35NetRipperhillsdale, dumping dmesg part using haret may help
16:34.43hillsdaleI just realized the moving bits are the android red dot.  :)
16:35.31hillsdaleLooks like the wiki is down, trying to see if any info in the research section
16:35.57hillsdalehow do I get the dmesg again?
16:36.03N3m3515yes xda-developers hp is also down
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16:43.34XHorntailI finally got linux installed, running, and using my tethering. lol
16:44.03XHorntailI guess it wasn't too hard.. But the tethering was tricky.
16:44.45rmcongratulations :)
16:44.50rmwhich device?
16:44.56XHorntailmogul
16:45.04rmi see
16:45.23XHorntailI'm excited to finally start getting into dev now.
16:45.41XHorntailjust gotta figure out all this "git" stuff and whatnot
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16:46.38bertramtXHorntail, what version of linux are you using?
16:46.51XHorntailubuntu.
16:46.57bertramt8.10?
16:47.09XHorntail8.04 I believe.
16:47.13XHorntailhaven't updated yet.
16:47.28bertramt8.10 works out of the box to tether
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16:47.35XHorntailhaha, really?
16:47.51XHorntailI found an easy tuorial to tether with it, so once I went Ubuntu, it wasn't hard.
16:48.12XHorntailI tried to rig it up in PCLinuxOS first, and that one took some time
16:48.25bertramtI did this for 8.04 http://bertramt.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-804-mogul-usb-tethering.html
16:49.27XHorntailThat's about what I used. It's a bit buggy when I try to plug in the second time, but no complaints.
16:49.49szsoftwareback
16:54.57bertramtwould be nice to get rndis working on the touch pro in linux so one could connect to it via a USB cable :)
16:59.24hillsdaleWell, I'm pretty stuck, especially without the wiki
16:59.33XHorntailhaha, me too
17:00.30hillsdaleI can check in my change or let someone else grab it and check it in.  Only about 5 lines...
17:01.04XHorntailwhat is it?
17:01.17hillsdalegets raph800 (sprint) further into boot screen
17:04.37XHorntailah
17:07.47ulaas_NetRipper: hey man! whats going on the SD side?
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17:53.59szsoftwaredamn, who can me tell something about msm_display_base when I describe an example and certain questions?
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17:57.25szsoftwarepH5: Hi, did you get my "Request to join" ?
17:59.53pH5hi
17:59.54pH5fires up email client
18:02.02pH5szsoftware: that request sounds a bit like you are not interested in pushing patches with git yourself..
18:02.04pH5are you?
18:02.15pH5you really only need the account for git write access.
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18:07.43rmALoGeNo, that new firmware from the Angstrom website is exactly the same to what we already had
18:07.48rmmd5sums match :/
18:09.03kaze_xda down?
18:10.07dushmaniacyeah since 18:00 or so
18:10.07kaze_mmm
18:10.07kaze_i kinda bet its getting ddosed
18:10.07dushmaniacdunno but it's annoying :)
18:10.07NetRipperah
18:10.09dushmaniacthx for that extraction tool NetRipper
18:10.13NetRippernps
18:10.23NetRipperdushmaniac, credits go to kevin, he made it ;)
18:10.38dushmaniacthx
18:10.42dushmaniac:P
18:12.24XHorntailDo i need the android repository to go with the htc-vogue repository?
18:12.36XHorntailor is htc-vogue all inclusive
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18:40.50Addictednice progress so far NetRipper :]
18:41.23Addictedanyone heard of any updates regarding the Internal Storage on Raphael? (Android)
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18:57.51XHorntailanyone wanna help me get up and running real quick?
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19:00.11bertramtwhat do you want to get running?
19:02.08XHorntailtrying to compile an image
19:02.40XHorntailI wanna start developing on the mogul, but I only know M$ programming and stuff.
19:02.51XHorntailnever had to play with toolchains, linux, whatnot.
19:03.44XHorntailI've been using thi
19:03.44XHorntailhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2271238&postcount=73
19:04.00XHorntailbut for htc-vogue.
19:04.32bertramtis that the same as this? http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
19:04.57hillsdaleBack from lunch.  Just got android up all the way on my raph800.  Last bit is a total hack.  Colors seem a little weird.
19:05.09bertramtsince xda still seems to be down..
19:05.30bertramthillsdale: sweet!
19:05.39metterhillsdale, 1.0?
19:06.04hillsdaleno, 0.8, but it wasn't booting at all on sprints
19:06.15metterahh, ok
19:06.18bertramtwhat can I do to get it running?
19:06.20hillsdaleI'll post a url with diffs in a sec.  wiki still down...
19:06.36metterjep just noticed aswell
19:08.12XHorntailOk, i guess I should just ask questions. lol.
19:09.10XHorntailon http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/, the diffs, .config, and his git of htc-vogue is all I should need to start compiling, right?
19:09.29XHorntailor do I also need an android git?
19:09.51szsoftwareXHorntail: no you only need the vogue-branch on linuxtogo
19:09.52hillsdalebertramt - http://pastebin.com/m7aefaeb8
19:10.00szsoftwareXHorntail: and a toolchain installed
19:10.27hillsdaleAfter I forced the toshiba driver to match, I finally realized it was picking a screen size
19:10.38hillsdaleof 864x864, so I'm just hardcoding it to 480x640
19:11.15hillsdaleWARNING - for all I know this can fry your lcd!
19:11.32hillsdaleSeems ok, though...
19:12.19XHorntailok, I have a toolchain, arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2. Would that be the right one?
19:14.08szsoftwareXHorntail: Yes it does. Nevertheless I just looked for a recent one: http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/package3397/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2008q3-41-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2
19:14.09bertramtXHorntail, I see the latest version zip file on http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ has todays date.  Not that its been useable but every version i've got from that page has booted on my mogul
19:14.40XHorntailAre you dev'ing for mogul?
19:14.55bertramthillsdale, guess this means I will need to get setup to compile
19:15.03szsoftwareXHorntail: Maybe you can do "make htcvogue_defconfig" in the git/kernel dir
19:15.43hillsdaleSorry - I don't have a great way to post a kernel image.  I can upload it if you've got a spot
19:16.15XHorntailhillsdale: I already have an image, I wanna be able to compile my own code and actually work on it.
19:16.24bertramthillsdale: how big is the image?
19:16.42hillsdale1.3m
19:17.11bertramthillsdale: would you be able to email it to me?
19:17.18XHorntailszsoftware: I tried to run "make htc_defconfig ARCH=arm", but I get a bunch of errors in the fixdep.c includes.
19:17.23XHorntaili.e. "scripts/basic/fixdep.c:107:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory"
19:17.28XHorntailam I missing a library?
19:17.31szsoftwareXHorntail: don't forget to tell make ARCH and CROSS_COMPILE, usually done via Makefile
19:17.47Tinyboomxda completely dead? anyone know why?
19:17.47szsoftwareXHorntail: which distribution?
19:17.57XHorntailubuntu
19:18.10hillsdalebertramt, sure.
19:18.11szsoftwareXHorntail: build-essentials installed?
19:19.02szsoftwareXHorntail: # sudo apt-get install build-essential
19:19.39hillsdalebertramt, saw the chat, acknowledged, but got an "unable to connect" - maybe firewall issue?
19:22.36hillsdaletrying a file send request...
19:22.54szsoftwareXHorntail: "# find <vogue-kernel-dir>arch/arm/configs/ -name "*_defconfig" | grep vogue" with result?
19:23.51XHorntailsec, I'll try it
19:24.17hillsdalebertramt - ok, got it now.  emailing...
19:26.14XHorntailthis is what I get now
19:26.15XHorntailhttp://pastebin.com/m1ed5c8b2
19:26.58szsoftwareXHorntail: just looked, there is a vogue_defconfig, so do: # make vogue_defconfig && make menuconfig
19:29.22XHorntailsome errors at the bottom
19:29.24XHorntailhttp://pastebin.com/m47943bf8
19:30.27szsoftwareXHorntail: make menuconfig, if you need further configuration, probably you want to test compiling defconfig first.
19:30.31szsoftwareXHorntail: wait..
19:30.43szsoftwareinstall ncurses-dev
19:30.55szsoftware# sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev
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19:32.21XHorntailok, now I ran the last command, and I got a whole bash menu. lol
19:32.41szsoftwareXHorntail: ?
19:33.23XHorntailI have a GUI menu in my console ".config - linux kernel v2.6.25 configuration"
19:34.04szsoftwareXHorntail: ahh, good, but for now you shouldn't need it
19:34.18szsoftwareleave it and try : # make zImage
19:36.03XHorntailhttp://pastebin.com/d1c8d2a6e
19:36.37szsoftwareXHorntail: the path to your toolchain isn't right
19:37.28szsoftwarewhere did you installed/extract your toolchain to?
19:38.29szsoftwareXHorntail: Put this path to your Makefile's CROSS_COMPILE variable
19:38.52XHorntailk, sec.
19:39.10szsoftwarepH5: still around?
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19:40.26XHorntailMy makefile doesn't have a CROSS_COMPILE var.
19:40.46szsoftwarewait..
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19:42.06szsoftwareXHorntail: it has :-)
19:42.20szsoftwareXHorntail: line 7
19:42.45szsoftwareXHorntail: you even don't need ARCH=arm in commandline ;-)
19:43.08szsoftwareXHorntail: <vogue-kernel-dir>/Makefile
19:43.44XHorntailCROSS_COMPILE=arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
19:44.05szsoftwareXHorntail: right, adapt it to your toolchain's path
19:44.46XHorntailCROSS_COMPILE=/root/android-kernel/arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi
19:44.49XHorntailsound right?
19:45.02XHorntailprobably supposed to quote that though eh?
19:45.10szsoftwareXHorntail: you can use relative paths as well: CROSS_COMPILE=../where_is_the_damn_toolchain/
19:45.45szsoftwareXHorntail: no quotes needed when no special chars or blanks in the path
19:46.29szsoftwareXHorntail: and, it sounds right, but you shouldn't work as root
19:46.56XHorntailI know, I was following a tut, and that's where all my stuff ended up.
19:47.09XHorntailcan I copy and paste it to another dir, or do I need to change paths?
19:48.06szsoftwareXHorntail: the toolchain is capsulated so you can move it where you want. Dont forget adapting reletad Makefiles
19:48.34XHorntailk. I'll move it and let ya know if it errors out. lol
19:48.46szsoftwareXHorntail: ok :-)
19:48.53XHorntailWindows IDE's made so much more sense than all this toolchain/makefile/whatnot. lol
19:50.16szsoftwareXHorntail: I worked long time ago with Borlands Delphi. It worked, but I didn't understand how :-=
19:51.18XHorntailwow, my dev folder EXPLODED.. from 500mb to 1.5gb.
19:51.24XHorntailthat's a hell of a project. lol
19:51.41szsoftwareXHorntail: git is huge ;-)
19:52.10szsoftwareXHorntail: # du -hs <vogue-git-dir>/.git
19:56.26bertramthas anybody been able to get the hardware keyboard to work on the mogul in linux?
20:03.00dcordes_bertramt, titan?
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20:04.07bertramtdcordes_ yeah
20:04.30hillsdaledcordes, I've got the sprint booting into android.  Color map is weird, otherwise seems to work
20:04.52HorntailBack, sorry. Internet went out.
20:05.24hillsdaleI'm gonna have to run soon, not sure when wiki is coming back up.
20:06.11hillsdaleIf it does, http://pastebin.com/m7aefaeb8 has a patch
20:06.54Horntailszsoftware: http://pastebin.com/d3b914711
20:07.26NetRipperhillsdale, it detects the wrong display size?
20:07.52szsoftwareHorntail: recheck your toolchain path: ../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabigcc: not found
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20:08.07hillsdaleNetRipper, yeah, comes up as 864x864 (I think, maybe 860x860).  Hardcoding it made it work
20:08.22szsoftwareHorntail: missing "-" at the end?
20:08.23hillsdaleColor map is all screwed up, though.  Maybe different visual (truecolor, etc.)
20:09.01hillsdaleI still haven't figured out what the hardware is - with the wiki down didn't even know where to start to poke at memory.  :)
20:09.01NetRipperhillsdale, ok.. probably a different panel :p
20:09.05NetRipperok
20:09.07szsoftwareHorntail: there are several progs in the toolchain with arm-none-linux-gnueabi- as prefix
20:09.19NetRipperhillsdale, when its back up, dump 1mb of the wince dmesg
20:09.32NetRipperhillsdale, it's documented in memorymap
20:09.39szsoftwareHorntail: like gcc and so, make file looks then for arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc and so
20:10.09szsoftwares/make file/make/
20:11.57HorntailI don't understand..
20:12.15sir0xhi folks
20:12.47hillsdaleNetRipper, will do.  If it doesn't come up soon, though, I'm going to have to run and might not be back until monday...
20:12.51szsoftwareHorntail: ../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabigcc: not found
20:13.49szsoftwareHorntail: you need to have "../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-" instead of "../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi" in your Makefile
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20:14.06szsoftwareHorntail: so it results in a command not found
20:14.14szsoftwareHi sir0x
20:14.18NetRipperhillsdale, ok
20:17.00HorntailK, I changed it, but now I get the same thing pretty much..
20:17.00Horntail"/bin/sh: ../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: not found"
20:17.40hillsdale...and when I finally want google cache to work, it doesn't...  :)
20:19.01milfadoodleif you set the path as "../arm-...." try setting the full path
20:19.51HorntailCROSS_COMPILE=../arm-2008q1/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-
20:20.08szsoftwareHorntail: sounds right, have a try ;-)
20:20.18rmtry actually looking what you have in ../arm-2008q1/
20:20.39rmI guess you might need to use ../arm-2008q1/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-    instead
20:21.16Horntailhaha, that was it
20:21.21Horntailthe /bin/
20:21.28szsoftwareHorntail: yes, in the kernel root dir do "ls ../arm-<tab><tab>/bin/<tab><tab>" ;-)
20:22.04szsoftwareHorntail: nvm, that was the error, yes
20:22.09HorntailI think it's compiling now..
20:22.17szsoftwareHorntail: fine :-)
20:22.54Horntaillotta objects. lol
20:26.21Horntailwhat do you guys use to transfer files - PPC in linux?
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20:27.27Horntailoh dang, it compiled.
20:27.34Horntailyou guys are amazing.
20:29.02szsoftwareHorntail: congratulation!
20:29.38drasarHello. At "http://pxa-linux.sourceforge.net" is written "The current Linux-2.6 supports PXA architecture already." So why Himalaya doesn't boot with vanilla kernel?
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20:31.56szsoftwaredcordes_: may I cp your htc-tux.jpg to my linuxtogo public_html too and may I use it?
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20:34.48HorntailWhat app do you guys use to transfer files to your PPC? I don't wanna have to move the image to my NTFS partition, and reboot everytime I compile. lol
20:36.01rmI take out the SD card, put it into an USB card reader and plug it in, it detects as a plain USB storage device
20:36.25druidu~seen NetRipper
20:36.27aptnetripper is currently on #htc-linux (8d 19h 36m 6s). Has said a total of 653 messages. Is idling for 22m 9s, last said: 'hillsdale, ok'.
20:38.08hillsdaledruidu, do you know where the dmesg area starts on the raph?  wiki is down
20:38.43hillsdaledruidu, i've got sprint booting to android, but colormap is wrong, trying to figure out panel differences
20:38.47hillsdalethanks
20:45.03szsoftwareHorntail: I use sd transport too
20:47.07Horntaillol, bummer. ok.
20:47.31rmif your device is natively windows mobile, you can find a program called wm5storage
20:47.42rmit makes the device detect as storage class
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21:01.24hillsdaleGot to go.  NetRipper, Bertramt - I'll probably be offline until next week, please post an update if possible (once the forums are back up) so someone can make forward progress in the meantime.  Thanks!
21:01.40druiduhillsdale: not sure...
21:01.46druiduwhat did you change to make it work?
21:02.08NetRipperhe made a patch
21:02.14bertramthillsdale: good luck, and thanks for your help
21:02.23NetRipper<PROTECTED>
21:02.37NetRipperseems raph800 has a different panel
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21:03.05meshugajust got my vogue running android
21:03.08meshugausing dzo's modifications
21:03.08NetRippereven with the patch there are still problems with colors
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21:03.52bertramtI see Gizmodo pimped xda today, wonder if thats what took them down..
21:04.53bertramthttp://gizmodo.com/5074850/dealzmodo-hack-cooked-software-revives-htc-phones
21:06.10hillsdalebertramt, I think you probably just called it.
21:06.55F_R_I_T_Z<bertramt> XDA COMe offline one half hour before this at gizmodo.
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21:09.14bertramtwhat time was it xda went down?
21:10.41NetRipperabout 5 hours ago
21:12.15bertramtit looks like that story went up about 2 hours ago, so chances are that wasn't the cause... oh well it was a thought...
21:13.36bertramtxda is back
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21:22.58szsoftwaredoes someone know about c-source images? How to convert?
21:23.04szsoftwaredruidu: ?
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21:52.16drasarCan somebody tell me please the difference between asic3_gpio_set_value() and asic3_set_gpio_out_a() functions?
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21:56.31craigaddcordes_ you aabout?
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22:26.08druiduszsoftware : like linux boot logo?
22:28.00schlashanyone know the exact keycode value when you press the "back" button in android?
22:28.10schlashneed to be able to send it to close down applications in android
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22:41.41Neutron83anyone around who could help me get the FRAMEBUFFER size calculated
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22:48.12Neutron83anyone around ?
22:48.20szsoftwa1edruidu: I examine gimp c-source export and want to write little c-appliation for converting it back. It's used in dzo's vkbd stuff
22:49.36szsoftware_druidu: I did'nt find any explanation of the format in the web
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23:02.28rmALoGeNo, IT WORKS
23:02.33rmWORKS WORKS WORKS
23:02.48ALoGeNoxDDD
23:02.55ALoGeNoseriously?
23:03.23ALoGeNoi gona go the street rigth now com back in 1h
23:03.48ALoGeNorm works??? with wich kernel?
23:04.48rmhm
23:04.52rmno, it actually doesn't
23:05.02rmALoGeNo, I just installed another firmware
23:05.08rmfrom 2004, version 1.9.8b
23:05.13ALoGeNoand?
23:05.30rmI test with nc /dev/zero -lp 12345 and nc > /dev/null on another computer
23:05.46rmwith the usual firmware it would lock-up the wifi instantly
23:06.00ALoGeNooh.,.
23:06.07rmwith this new firmware, it worked for about 20-30 seconds (full speed data transfer) before locking up!
23:06.39ALoGeNois nice..
23:07.01rmwait a sec
23:07.08Neutron83anyone could help me with adapting the kernel config ??
23:07.25Neutron83what is the MSM_EBI_BASE ??
23:07.37rmALoGeNo, here it is: http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx_firmware.tar.bz2
23:07.39ALoGeNoNeutron83 if you have another old config you can use it..
23:07.48rmthe link is from this howto -> http://www.houseofcraig.net/acx100_howto.php
23:08.10ALoGeNoand if not if you are compiling the new one, look in /arch/yourarch/config/*
23:08.11Neutron83not kernel config
23:09.09Neutron83i mean the c files wich defines framebuffer size and config
23:09.18ALoGeNoi must go, back in 1h.. see you guys.
23:09.24Neutron83i got my screen repainted usin haret
23:09.29Neutron83see ya
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23:28.39rmok, ALoGeNo, steps to success:
23:28.46rm1) firmware from the link above
23:28.52rm2) ifconfig wlan0 mtu 576
23:28.58rm3) ifconfig wlan0 txqueuelen 1
23:29.04rmthat way it seems a lot more stable
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23:29.30rmlock up in about 2 minutes of full-rate transfer, not 1 second
23:30.10rmand the lock up is perfectly recoverable from, by ifdown/ifup
23:36.42rmalso, Poky has a compiled 2.6.23, with release 3.1 here: http://www.pokylinux.org/getit/
23:37.25rmbut touch screen does not work with it for some reason, and as far as I could tell, wifi isn't improved
23:37.33rmok, I'll go to sleep, good night :)
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23:47.08oliver__anyone know if the kaiser sd hardware the same as the polaris and the nike?
23:54.13TheSargeno, no one knows
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