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| 00:27.57 | arrrghhh_ | how's it goin folks. any leaps and bounds made over the last few days? haha. i still can't get it to boot. |
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| 00:47.50 | arrrghhh_ | amazing progress |
| 00:48.30 | MissingNo | I just only wish for Android on the Apache :3 |
| 00:49.27 | arrrghhh | i don't see why it's not available. |
| 00:49.50 | MissingNo | there's still some work to do for Apache iirc |
| 00:49.50 | arrrghhh | i figured with the linux kernel already on the apache it would be a drop in... |
| 00:50.00 | arrrghhh | i want it on my titan :D |
| 00:50.09 | MissingNo | hey, I'm a cheap bastard |
| 00:50.16 | MissingNo | I found this apache for $29 on eBay |
| 00:50.39 | MissingNo | it'd make for a nice Android |
| 00:50.45 | arrrghhh | jeez and it works? |
| 00:50.50 | MissingNo | yeah |
| 00:50.51 | arrrghhh | i sold mine for $160 not too long ago. |
| 00:51.14 | MissingNo | only issues I've seen - I can't get the reset to work, the vibrate isn't that great, and the screen's a bit scratched |
| 00:51.17 | MissingNo | everything else is A-OK |
| 00:52.01 | arrrghhh | clean esn? |
| 00:52.11 | MissingNo | I didn't really know |
| 00:52.17 | MissingNo | *cough* |
| 00:52.40 | MissingNo | all I'm going to say on that is Verizon thinks I have an LG Chocolate on prepaid and not an XV6700 on prepaid |
| 00:53.14 | BHSPitLappy | I'd never go so far as to complain about a phone's vibrating function |
| 00:53.21 | MissingNo | meh |
| 00:53.28 | BHSPitLappy | Lest I be judged harshly by the community |
| 00:53.39 | arrrghhh | it just doesn't pleasure me like it used to... |
| 00:54.07 | MissingNo | bah sonofabitch |
| 00:54.20 | MissingNo | trying to update my apache rom |
| 00:54.33 | MissingNo | it just knocked every USB device, including keyboard and mouse out |
| 00:54.44 | MissingNo | then the screen kept flipping between "USB" and "Serial" |
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| 01:23.23 | tmzt | MissingNo: found a patch for pxafb for android, on zubuntu?? site |
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| 05:53.27 | AstainHellbring | nope |
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| 06:14.25 | Chicago | Hello |
| 06:14.50 | BruteSource | hi |
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| 07:05.24 | sfjuocekr | dEST TJE RAODOPT TP MOTE OS FF AMD ;EAVES |
| 07:05.29 | sfjuocekr | hEAT WE SOLL ONM ... |
| 07:05.56 | sfjuocekr | jSO ;PBRTRBRMY ,SLRM RYV |
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| 08:14.46 | tetsuo\0 | yo guys, anyone knows if the universal already has modules for the camera on linux? |
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| 12:47.12 | metter | where do i get android.bin version 1.0? |
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| 12:57.11 | kaze | there is no wqorking 1.0 bin yet, if you have a vogue you can try dzo's stuff |
| 12:57.24 | kaze | its 1.0 |
| 12:57.52 | metter | ok, i was reading that post atm |
| 12:57.53 | metter | thank you |
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| 13:20.08 | sir0x | hi folks |
| 13:20.10 | sir0x | whats up ? |
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| 14:38.02 | holydhaliwal | hey guys i just have a quick question, is the telus diamond in the same boat as the spring diamond where it can't yet boot android? thanks. |
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| 14:55.03 | e1337master | hi are there any news regarding linux on raph800? |
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| 15:04.54 | e1337master | sorry didn't mean to break silence |
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| 15:43.26 | dimitris | Is it just me or this channel is very silent! 87 people in here and nobody says anything lol :-) |
| 15:45.34 | kiozen | we switched to telepathy, come on and join us.. |
| 15:53.05 | dimitris | yeah hehehe |
| 15:53.23 | dimitris | sudo apt-get install telepathy :-) |
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| 16:02.50 | kiozen | don't do that, you never know what it does install... it's like putting things in the mouth you don't know... |
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| 16:19.17 | dcordes | ~seen pH5 |
| 16:19.18 | apt | ph5 <n=ph5@e178204169.adsl.alicedsl.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 4d 19h 56m 51s ago, saying: 'at least that's the name that is registered in the arm machine database'. |
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| 16:22.31 | dcordes | druidu, hi, any news from your side? |
| 16:22.49 | dcordes | NetRipper, |
| 16:24.56 | NetRipper | dcordes, no, sorry |
| 16:24.59 | NetRipper | been rather busy |
| 16:25.28 | dcordes | ok I take it no htc-msm-2.6.25 updating required? |
| 16:25.33 | NetRipper | not yet |
| 16:25.34 | NetRipper | for me |
| 16:25.45 | NetRipper | all im doing is testing right now anyway |
| 16:25.49 | NetRipper | when i have the time |
| 16:26.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, you heard druidu almost got his device bricked? |
| 16:26.01 | dcordes | ok, I have seen you figured diamond flash is sdio? |
| 16:26.12 | dcordes | yes in that context. |
| 16:26.15 | NetRipper | dcordes, im not sure about that, but its certainly not on nand |
| 16:26.28 | dcordes | so how did he almost brick? |
| 16:26.37 | NetRipper | he tried to mount his mtd0 |
| 16:26.44 | NetRipper | read-only |
| 16:26.50 | NetRipper | but it modified something anyway |
| 16:26.57 | NetRipper | WM6 didnt boot anymore |
| 16:27.06 | NetRipper | his SPL was untouched, luckily |
| 16:27.08 | dcordes | ouuh |
| 16:27.15 | NetRipper | so after flashing full OS it worked again |
| 16:27.17 | dcordes | so something wrote to the OS? |
| 16:27.20 | dcordes | ok |
| 16:27.27 | NetRipper | yes |
| 16:27.43 | dcordes | you say _it_ is not on nand in diamond. what's it? |
| 16:27.53 | dcordes | OS? |
| 16:28.08 | NetRipper | the 4gb internal storage |
| 16:29.08 | dcordes | is that the diamond specification? 4gb storage? |
| 16:29.22 | NetRipper | erm not sure |
| 16:29.23 | NetRipper | at least |
| 16:29.24 | NetRipper | internal storage |
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| 16:29.33 | NetRipper | the nand is only 256 mb |
| 16:29.38 | NetRipper | it cannot hold the internal storage |
| 16:30.05 | NetRipper | during his quest to recover his device, there was an SPL command that returned the exact nand device id, name and stuff |
| 16:30.18 | NetRipper | 02:37:17 <druidu> DEVICE NAME=samsung_k9k2g08 |
| 16:30.19 | NetRipper | 02:37:17 <druidu> DEVICE ID=0xAA |
| 16:30.19 | NetRipper | 02:37:17 <druidu> DEVICE MAKER ID=0xEC |
| 16:30.19 | NetRipper | 02:37:17 <druidu> PAGE SIZE=0x800 |
| 16:30.19 | NetRipper | 02:37:17 <druidu> TOTAL PAGE SIZE=0x840 |
| 16:30.21 | NetRipper | 02:37:19 <druidu> BLOCK COUNT=0x800 |
| 16:30.23 | NetRipper | 02:37:21 <druidu> BLOCK PAGE=0x40 |
| 16:30.29 | dcordes | yea it's likely that is is one of those http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MSM_NANDID |
| 16:30.57 | dcordes | uhm hold on I thought we were talking about the diamond now |
| 16:31.00 | NetRipper | yes |
| 16:31.03 | AstainHellbring | NetRipper you referring to nand as ROM right? |
| 16:31.18 | NetRipper | AstainHellbring, of course, nand = what holds the rom, spl etc |
| 16:32.05 | dcordes | NetRipper, msm_nand printks should also return this information on init |
| 16:32.16 | NetRipper | dcordes, yes it does |
| 16:32.18 | AstainHellbring | oh IC sorry read a few lines up and got what you were saying thought you were saying you couldnt use it as storage at all bu you were saying that the 4gb isnt it |
| 16:32.21 | NetRipper | not page size, block count etc |
| 16:32.29 | NetRipper | AstainHellbring, indeed |
| 16:32.39 | dcordes | NetRipper, just curious about that: what was the distro where he mounted it ro and it wrote stuff to it? |
| 16:33.12 | NetRipper | dcordes, not sure, he modified the kernel to make it possible as the block device only accepts reads of 2048 at a time instad of the default 512 |
| 16:33.35 | dcordes | ok I think for the kaiser nand I must also change the block size |
| 16:33.54 | dcordes | did he pass the partition offsets to msm_nand? |
| 16:34.04 | dcordes | maybe he has the code somewhere? |
| 16:34.08 | NetRipper | dcordes, no i dont think so |
| 16:34.17 | NetRipper | dcordes, he'll have the code locally |
| 16:34.44 | dcordes | ok can you ask him to put it somewhere publicly or email it when you see him? I would like to look at it for kaiser/polaris reference |
| 16:34.44 | NetRipper | dcordes, anyway nand seems unneccesary |
| 16:34.56 | NetRipper | dcordes, ok just leave him a msg :) |
| 16:35.21 | NetRipper | dcordes, i dont think he modified the driver, just a test situation to perform the reads |
| 16:35.41 | NetRipper | dcordes, then he mounted, which failed, then he rebooted, which made him found out it was bricked |
| 16:35.44 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 16:36.27 | dcordes | I /msg'D him |
| 16:36.31 | NetRipper | ;) |
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| 17:50.30 | BruteSource | am i connected? |
| 17:53.31 | BHSPitLappy | no |
| 17:53.34 | BHSPitLappy | try again |
| 17:55.01 | BruteSource | weird tmo suspended my service but gprs/edge is still workin |
| 17:56.32 | BHSPitLappy | lol |
| 17:56.40 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, start pulling in torrents |
| 17:57.14 | BHSPitLappy | grab all the bandwidth you can from those tools |
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| 18:02.16 | BruteSource | no i just have to find a useful sms site i can use |
| 18:02.28 | BHSPitLappy | or AIM? |
| 18:02.45 | dcordes-kais | BruteSource you in the states? |
| 18:04.10 | BHSPitLappy | Gmail just added SMS support... can that be used natively on Android perhaps |
| 18:04.11 | dcordes-kais | for free? |
| 18:04.12 | BruteSource | i don't have android with radio support yet |
| 18:04.31 | BruteSource | but can you use sms from gmail.com? |
| 18:04.56 | BHSPitLappy | never mind, I don't think you could get it in the gmail app |
| 18:04.59 | BHSPitLappy | it's a Labs feature |
| 18:05.40 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, if you can use AIM, you can send/receive texts in that |
| 18:05.58 | BruteSource | the aim client? |
| 18:06.00 | BHSPitLappy | though you wouldn't be able to receive while you're away |
| 18:06.03 | BruteSource | for wm |
| 18:06.06 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, the AIM protocol in general |
| 18:06.19 | BruteSource | really? |
| 18:06.23 | BHSPitLappy | just send to the screenname +14445556666 |
| 18:06.30 | BHSPitLappy | replace 4445556666 with the number |
| 18:06.34 | BruteSource | nice |
| 18:07.42 | BruteSource | lemme try it out with palringo |
| 18:08.19 | BruteSource | yahoos client supports sms as well does that mean the protocol does to? |
| 18:08.43 | BruteSource | would be useful since they have offline messaging |
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| 18:11.33 | BruteSource | swweet it works, wow i can save 15 bucks a month now |
| 18:12.23 | MissingNo | I've been used to just using sms over email |
| 18:12.32 | MissingNo | because I know who's who in terms of carriers |
| 18:12.50 | MissingNo | <number>@txt.att.net, <number>@vtext.com, etc |
| 18:13.10 | BruteSource | ya its a hassle to rememeber every carriers email |
| 18:13.19 | MissingNo | I've got 'em down |
| 18:13.20 | MissingNo | but I miss teleflip |
| 18:13.26 | BruteSource | this works great |
| 18:13.47 | BruteSource | well except for the offline thing |
| 18:14.20 | MissingNo | it was like <number>@teleflip.com and it tried to detect the carrier |
| 18:14.38 | MissingNo | I used to use a Peek mobile email thing, but it was such a pile of shit |
| 18:14.43 | MissingNo | they emailed me to introduce their own |
| 18:15.23 | MissingNo | supposedly their beta one is <number>@cell.getpeek.net |
| 18:17.19 | MissingNo | I'd try it and see what happens |
| 18:35.19 | BruteSource | what does their service do? |
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| 18:39.41 | Chicago | Does the android source contain the .config we need for our Titans? |
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| 19:01.37 | Chicago | Nevermind... The Martin's git repository has what I'm looking for here -> http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
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| 19:33.18 | matt_t | hello |
| 19:33.42 | matt_t | anybody in here? |
| 19:35.47 | BruteSource | i am |
| 19:37.42 | Chicago | me too |
| 19:43.56 | matt_t | will linux run on the utstarcom harrier? |
| 19:44.09 | matt_t | i know it will run on the blueangel, but i can't find anything pertaining to the harrier |
| 19:46.59 | BruteSource | what board? |
| 19:48.25 | tmzt | I guess 6, par has one (xv6600) |
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| 20:00.09 | rm | hello |
| 20:00.41 | rm | does anyone know if there's any progress with WPA support on HTC Universal (acx100)? |
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| 20:07.01 | matt_t | I'm not sure, is there a way of finding out what board it is? |
| 20:08.29 | BruteSource | google |
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| 20:24.11 | Chicago | BruteSource: The "Linux and Android for Vogue" thread on xda is about 156 pages. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265 |
| 20:24.57 | Chicago | and |
| 20:26.00 | Chicago | I haven't seen anything about howto patch Android with Martin's mobile-linux/kernel.git tree. |
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| 20:36.54 | tmzt | Chicago: patch? |
| 20:38.10 | Chicago | tmzt: exactly. |
| 20:38.30 | Chicago | I followed the instructions for getting the android source and building it on linux here -> http://source.android.com/download |
| 20:38.46 | Chicago | Last night, I compiled it successfully. hooray |
| 20:38.49 | tmzt | and you have a system.bin and user.bin? |
| 20:39.01 | tmzt | data.bin |
| 20:39.25 | Chicago | I have system.img ramdisk.img and userdata.img |
| 20:40.10 | Chicago | Oh, and android-info.txt doesn't have anything specified for "board=" |
| 20:40.53 | tmzt | ok, if the dma problems aren't fixed then you are going to have some trouble getting it to work from an sd card |
| 20:41.12 | tmzt | but I still don't get what you mean by patch? and what's android-info.txt? |
| 20:41.23 | tmzt | you need the mtype for titan |
| 20:41.38 | Chicago | So, unfortunately I wasted my time compiling it and I need to start clean again. This time I suppose I am supposed to patch the Android source with Martin's patchset and when I run make inside my android directory, the proper bzImage will be created... and the keyboard will work... on my titan.; |
| 20:41.49 | tmzt | no |
| 20:42.06 | Chicago | How else do I use Martin's repository? |
| 20:42.09 | tmzt | zImage is created from the kernel source, not android (user) |
| 20:42.39 | tmzt | that is the kernel patched for android for vogue/titan (if the keyboard/sidebuttons is in there) |
| 20:43.08 | Chicago | So I should forget about the android application project directory... |
| 20:43.12 | tmzt | how big is ramdisk.img? |
| 20:43.12 | BHSPitLappy | when forum threads get to be 156 pages long, they need to be flushed back to the first post |
| 20:43.28 | BHSPitLappy | completely useless |
| 20:43.39 | tmzt | (all the good information is in the middle, or the very end minus a few pages) |
| 20:44.23 | Chicago | So, do I simply need to git Martin's mobile-linux/kernel repository and build it? |
| 20:44.24 | BHSPitLappy | it'd be nice of more OP's kept status updates on the first post |
| 20:44.36 | BHSPitLappy | rather than just adding to their own threads |
| 20:44.56 | tmzt | Chicago: yeah, use a cross compiler |
| 20:45.05 | Chicago | tmzt: ramdisk.img is 136K |
| 20:45.25 | Chicago | system.img is 46M and userdata.img is 2.0M |
| 20:45.26 | tmzt | Chicago: or you can get zImage-sidebuttons which is for titan, and might have the android patches |
| 20:45.48 | Chicago | tmzt: I am hoping to compile it all from source. |
| 20:46.14 | tmzt | I don't know if all the titan stuff is in there, since the source for that zImage is not there |
| 20:46.27 | Chicago | Really... |
| 20:46.44 | tmzt | you can run it as vogue if you don't want/need keyboard or to be able to turn it back on after it suspends |
| 20:46.53 | tmzt | I can look |
| 20:49.04 | Chicago | tmzt: I see the htc-vogue head here -> http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
| 20:49.49 | tmzt | I only see halibut in that tree |
| 20:50.26 | MissingNo | Do you think we'll ever see Android for the Apache? |
| 20:50.48 | tmzt | MissingNo: possibly, there is a pxafb patch for android |
| 20:51.15 | MissingNo | I have no idea how the hell to develop for anything or compile anything like this, so it's not really something I can work with :\ |
| 20:51.34 | tmzt | MissingNo: compile android? |
| 20:51.37 | Chicago | Scroll to the bottom of this page and see the "heads". There is htc-vogue, htc-msm-2.6.25, mainline, htc-omap, htc-msm, master, hh.org, work, android-msm, master-old... http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=summary |
| 20:51.47 | tmzt | Chicago: yeah, your link worked |
| 20:52.04 | MissingNo | which phones that HTC has are fully capable of running android with most if not everything working, aside from the G1? |
| 20:52.08 | MissingNo | the vougue? |
| 20:52.28 | tmzt | Chicago: don't see any titan stuff in there |
| 20:52.35 | Chicago | MissingNo: We'll see, I have the same chipset as the Vogue on my titan... but am needing input drivers for the side keyboard and such. |
| 20:52.50 | kaze | dcordes-kais hello, you tried your new msm_sdcc? does it solves DMA errors? |
| 20:52.59 | MissingNo | but essentially most if not everything is working on the Vouge? |
| 20:53.04 | MissingNo | Vogue* |
| 20:53.07 | Chicago | tmzt: Are you saying the titan stuff comes from somewhere else? |
| 20:53.38 | Chicago | MissingNo: I tried the developer tools from a 9/24/08 android bin and the opengl worked. |
| 20:53.43 | tmzt | Chicago: I'm saying the only source for titan is an old file on a website where the zImage-sidebuttons is |
| 20:53.50 | Chicago | The translucent opengl didn't seem to work properly... |
| 20:53.52 | MissingNo | Chicago: hardware-wise, that is |
| 20:53.58 | MissingNo | voice and data, bluetooth, wifi |
| 20:54.35 | tmzt | I belive data works on the cdma msm's (vogue/titan) |
| 20:54.39 | MissingNo | ah |
| 20:54.57 | MissingNo | pulls up Bell to find out how much a vogue is |
| 20:55.21 | MissingNo | because they discontinued the 6800 I coulda got one for $150 |
| 20:55.23 | Chicago | tmzt: I see... because on the vogue page http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ he says the keyboard won't work. |
| 20:55.36 | tmzt | search for zImage-sidebuttons |
| 20:55.42 | tmzt | on google |
| 20:55.50 | Chicago | Where did the zImage-sidebuttons come from? Shouldn't I just need a .config in order to roll my own? |
| 20:55.54 | tmzt | MissingNo: bell is cdma or gsm? |
| 20:56.00 | MissingNo | cdma |
| 20:56.14 | MissingNo | they're the verizon of canada pretty much |
| 20:56.20 | MissingNo | and telus is the sprint of canada |
| 20:56.31 | tmzt | who is the gsm? |
| 20:56.37 | MissingNo | rogers/fido |
| 20:56.42 | tmzt | ok |
| 20:56.47 | MissingNo | rogers bought fido |
| 20:57.02 | MissingNo | sad thing is, I'm from the US and know all this |
| 20:57.12 | tmzt | I need to get my 6800 before vzw does that too, unless omnia or something is so much better |
| 20:57.19 | MissingNo | but I live next to the canadian border, so hell, 30 minutes away's a $150 mogul |
| 20:57.25 | MissingNo | device-only price |
| 20:57.29 | tmzt | (yeah, I just thought bell was gsm) |
| 20:57.31 | Chicago | There is a zImage-sidebuttons from 10/13/2008 here -> http://wormhole.akropolys.com/htclinux/ |
| 20:57.37 | MissingNo | lemme check the price |
| 20:57.46 | tmzt | to use on what carrier? |
| 20:57.52 | MissingNo | bell canada |
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| 20:57.55 | MissingNo | device-only price |
| 20:57.56 | Chicago | tmzt: On my 6800, it wasn't very smooth running the 9/24 android bin from haret. |
| 20:57.58 | tmzt | Chicago: that's it, we just need the source |
| 20:58.29 | Chicago | tmzt: Well, if the kernel is built with .config.gz support built in... then you can get the .config. |
| 20:58.30 | dcordes-kais | hi you guys messing with the titan? |
| 20:58.35 | MissingNo | pulls up the Bell HTC Touch |
| 20:58.39 | tmzt | Chicago: well, I don't know if I am going to use android yet, I'm just not sure about the dma thing |
| 20:58.39 | MissingNo | load damn you |
| 20:58.42 | tmzt | dcordes-kais: hey |
| 20:58.54 | tmzt | MissingNo: that's vouge? |
| 20:58.54 | Chicago | tmzt: But that doesn't mean I know anything about kernel patches required for the zImage-sidebuttons to build. |
| 20:59.00 | MissingNo | yeah |
| 20:59.01 | kaze | dcordes-kais hi, you read my question? |
| 20:59.05 | MissingNo | touch = vogue |
| 20:59.13 | MissingNo | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Vogue |
| 20:59.19 | Chicago | tmzt: Isn't Uboot capable of putting the whole thing onto main memory? Then it will be smooth. |
| 20:59.23 | MissingNo | 3-year from $99.95 on Bell |
| 20:59.39 | tmzt | MissingNo: so you are in us or ca now? |
| 20:59.44 | MissingNo | US |
| 20:59.47 | MissingNo | checking canadian pricing |
| 20:59.49 | MissingNo | no contract... $349.95 |
| 20:59.52 | MissingNo | blue or white |
| 20:59.57 | tmzt | and you use bell for service? |
| 21:00.03 | MissingNo | no |
| 21:00.11 | MissingNo | I'm planning on buying and bringing it over |
| 21:00.29 | tmzt | you can't really activate different cdma on a us network (sprint/alltel/verizon) |
| 21:00.41 | MissingNo | same freqs |
| 21:00.50 | tmzt | but they whitelist the esn |
| 21:00.52 | MissingNo | my 6700 hits their towers when I drive over |
| 21:01.11 | MissingNo | tmzt: Who said anything about there being a Bell ESN on the phone when I bring it back *nudge* |
| 21:01.34 | MissingNo | and hell, any app/any device on verizon will roll out next year |
| 21:01.40 | tmzt | I said "really" |
| 21:02.00 | MissingNo | but hell, $350 canadian means it's a hell of a lot cheaper |
| 21:02.10 | tmzt | if you could get it approved through their system |
| 21:02.18 | tmzt | I think bestbuy has the 6800's online |
| 21:02.21 | MissingNo | meh |
| 21:02.25 | tmzt | about 50 |
| 21:02.33 | MissingNo | $292 according to google's conversions |
| 21:02.38 | MissingNo | in US |
| 21:03.00 | MissingNo | and about $334 US for the touch dual |
| 21:05.33 | Chicago | tmzt: Google found me this page -> http://titanux.lwp.ca/wiki/index.php/Main_Page l33tlinuxh4x0r on xda forums said this is the wiki that was started for linux on the titan. |
| 21:06.34 | dcordes-kais | lol |
| 21:08.07 | dcordes-kais | linux on the titan is vogue ont he titan plus keyboard driver (remap) |
| 21:08.28 | dcordes-kais | sorry |
| 21:08.29 | Chicago | dcordes-kais: Where is the repository for the keyboard driver remap patch? |
| 21:09.26 | dcordes-kais | basically titan is vogue with the qwerty and wifi |
| 21:09.59 | tmzt | dcordes-kais: zdooder (I think) based his keyboard on kaiser? |
| 21:10.00 | dcordes-kais | chicago I don't know |
| 21:10.15 | dcordes-kais | yea I think so |
| 21:10.38 | dcordes-kais | tmzt you know where the zdooder website is? |
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| 21:10.56 | tmzt | that one Chicago gave? |
| 21:11.05 | kaze | dcordes-kais tried the kaiser msm_sdcc you posted ? |
| 21:11.14 | dcordes-kais | didn't he askf or it? |
| 21:11.24 | dcordes-kais | I have nos crollback |
| 21:11.38 | tmzt | what are you using? irssi? |
| 21:11.38 | dcordes-kais | no sry no tried |
| 21:11.49 | tmzt | you can map Previous and Next with loadkeys |
| 21:11.57 | kaze | couldnt compile it :( |
| 21:11.57 | dcordes-kais | no in wince |
| 21:12.18 | dcordes-kais | did you put botha lsot he header? |
| 21:12.36 | kaze | .c & .h yup |
| 21:12.58 | dcordes-kais | hmm ok thxI wil check at home |
| 21:14.01 | dcordes-kais | tmzt lol you can tell I'm in wince by the misplaced spaces. |
| 21:14.25 | tmzt | yeah, BruteSource has the same problem, I guess none of the htc's work right < |
| 21:14.55 | dcordes-kais | well in linux/angstrom it's perfect |
| 21:15.11 | tmzt | what size screen (physically) does kaiser have? |
| 21:15.41 | dcordes-kais | idk from top of my head |
| 21:15.57 | dcordes-kais | go to my website and see qpe-kaiser file |
| 21:16.08 | tmzt | I found that with the smallest font, my tiny qvga keyboard is too small for irssi |
| 21:16.13 | dcordes-kais | there it is in mm |
| 21:16.14 | tmzt | qvga screen |
| 21:16.59 | tmzt | I know it's smaller than kaiser/titan maybe half the size |
| 21:17.33 | Chicago | Where is the source code for the titan keyboard linux kernel driver? |
| 21:18.33 | tmzt | only things is http://wormhole.akropolys.com/htclinux/ |
| 21:18.39 | tmzt | and that's old |
| 21:19.30 | Chicago | tmzt: Wait. |
| 21:19.53 | Chicago | The board-kaiser-keypad.c driver is dated 02-Oct-2008 at http://wormhole.akropolys.com/htclinux/ |
| 21:20.29 | tmzt | right |
| 21:20.39 | Chicago | Is that specific keypad driver the same one used for the zImage-sidebuttons? |
| 21:20.45 | tmzt | can't find anything newer |
| 21:21.14 | Chicago | How am I supposed to use board-kaiser-keypad.c? |
| 21:22.00 | tmzt | put in drivers/input/keyboard |
| 21:22.07 | tmzt | enable the .config option |
| 21:22.33 | Chicago | So the Kaiser-keypad is the titan keypad? |
| 21:23.07 | tmzt | I don't know how complete it is |
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| 21:23.48 | BruteSource | i peed in an envelope tuesday, for sammy. |
| 21:24.02 | BruteSource | oops wrong window. |
| 21:24.11 | Chicago | Interesting -> HTC Titan Keyboard based on: HTC Kaiser Keyboard base on: etc http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c |
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| 21:27.38 | Neutron83 | hey |
| 21:27.52 | Neutron83 | anyone around good with haret |
| 21:28.10 | Chicago | ali1234: Where did titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c come from? http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/ Is there a newer version? |
| 21:29.15 | Neutron83 | i build my first msm7200 kernel tonight |
| 21:29.26 | Neutron83 | and it wouldnt boot up |
| 21:29.39 | Neutron83 | stoped after go go go |
| 21:29.51 | Neutron83 | in the log of haret |
| 21:34.50 | Neutron83 | in then log i also see an interesting thing saying "Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination" |
| 21:35.35 | Chicago | tmzt: Okay, this keyboard driver is definitely for the Titan. http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c It could be older than 10/1/2008. I don't know if ali1234 is the author or not. |
| 21:37.32 | tmzt | Neutron83: what device? |
| 21:37.48 | Neutron83 | HTC shift |
| 21:38.07 | tmzt | that's the x86/msm one? |
| 21:38.13 | Neutron83 | msm one |
| 21:38.29 | Neutron83 | x86 already done with lin |
| 21:38.51 | Neutron83 | jea |
| 21:38.55 | Neutron83 | has both |
| 21:39.17 | tmzt | has anyone booted it with msm in linux? |
| 21:39.43 | Neutron83 | not as far as i know...... |
| 21:40.18 | ali1234 | Chicago: im not the author, and there's a newer version of that vile on xda forums |
| 21:40.27 | ali1234 | Chicago: (posted by me) |
| 21:40.28 | BruteSource | someone has android running as standalone os on a pc |
| 21:40.30 | Neutron83 | im trin it with the kaisers kernel cause its the same msm7200 as the specs say ... or am i wrong ? |
| 21:40.31 | BruteSource | wow |
| 21:40.38 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, huh |
| 21:40.52 | ali1234 | BruteSource: link please, i want that for my slow slow laptop |
| 21:40.52 | BruteSource | i just read an article |
| 21:40.54 | Chicago | ali1234: Cool. Thanks, I am going to check xda-developers.com for it now. |
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| 21:41.02 | tmzt | it's going to take alot more work then, maybe you could ask cr2_ or Kevin2 |
| 21:41.16 | BruteSource | cant link on phone, google android x86 |
| 21:41.32 | ali1234 | Chicago: oh wait no, that's a different keyboard file i posted on xda, not related |
| 21:41.32 | tmzt | BruteSource: neat, but until kernel-mode-setting is working framebuffer on pc hardware won't be very nice |
| 21:41.39 | Neutron83 | i will do the work if anyone could give me help where to start at |
| 21:41.57 | BruteSource | ya but im sure its just for show |
| 21:42.12 | tmzt | I think you need to dump mmu, and find where the framebuffer is |
| 21:42.17 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, what was the news source |
| 21:42.22 | ali1234 | tmzt: my laptop only has basic framebuffer anyway |
| 21:42.29 | Chicago | ali1234: Did you originally find titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c from some repo? |
| 21:42.49 | BruteSource | i believe it was pc world |
| 21:42.52 | tmzt | I don't know, but windows 7 looks a bit like android on the Ars article |
| 21:43.08 | tmzt | and they are making it for small laptops |
| 21:43.20 | Neutron83 | tmzt okay i can dump mmu |
| 21:43.32 | BruteSource | windows 7 already? |
| 21:43.40 | Neutron83 | and how do i find framebuffer in that file |
| 21:43.51 | BruteSource | man guess they just decided vista was crap eh |
| 21:43.56 | tmzt | BruteSource: yeah, I think you can download it (but not over gprs) |
| 21:43.57 | ali1234 | Chicago: no, version on my website was written by ginge with trace info supplied by wasup. wasup completed it with zdooder (who actually has a titan) |
| 21:44.08 | Chicago | cool |
| 21:44.16 | BruteSource | hey my record so far is 500mb |
| 21:44.37 | BruteSource | i found away to make the temp internet dir for opera on the mem card |
| 21:44.49 | ali1234 | tmzt: windows 7 on my laptop? it can hardly run xp |
| 21:44.51 | tmzt | if skia could be made to work over X, you could just use that |
| 21:44.57 | BHSPitLappy | AT&T would charge me $5,000 for downloading 500mb over the air |
| 21:45.03 | tmzt | it's supposed to run in 512mb |
| 21:45.04 | Chicago | ali1234: Where do ginge wasup and zdooder post? |
| 21:45.16 | ali1234 | Chicago: i only know them from this channel |
| 21:45.19 | BruteSource | i have unlimited net, with a 10gb cap |
| 21:45.35 | Chicago | I saw a password protected Titan linux wiki today. |
| 21:45.38 | ali1234 | tmzt: my laptop only has 256mb, and that is shared with graphics and sound |
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| 21:45.42 | Chicago | Too bad, maybe that's where the gold is. |
| 21:45.46 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, sounds limited to me ;) |
| 21:45.54 | tmzt | ali1234: oh, I would suggest dsl then |
| 21:45.56 | BHSPitLappy | In just about every sense of the word, even |
| 21:46.02 | BruteSource | well i mean its not per kb like most |
| 21:46.20 | tmzt | ali1234: is xvesa in gentoo? |
| 21:46.36 | BruteSource | my pumpkins are mushy |
| 21:46.42 | ali1234 | tmzt: no idea, i dont use gentoo |
| 21:46.52 | tmzt | ali1234: oh, thought you did |
| 21:47.00 | ali1234 | ubuntu |
| 21:47.20 | tmzt | ali1234: oh, you can use Xvesa bin from dsl, it makes it alot faster |
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| 21:47.53 | tmzt | ali1234: even xubuntu, which is not as scaled down as it should be |
| 21:48.06 | tmzt | dzo: what is the current keyboard driver for titan? |
| 21:48.32 | BruteSource | what it xubuntu anyways, an ubuntu fork with focus on what? |
| 21:48.45 | tmzt | BruteSource: using xfce, but still using gdm and Xorg |
| 21:48.54 | tmzt | BruteSource: so nowhere near as small as dsl |
| 21:49.14 | BruteSource | dsl? |
| 21:49.34 | tmzt | damnsmall |
| 21:49.48 | tmzt | damnsmalllinux.org |
| 21:50.25 | BruteSource | aw heard about that |
| 21:50.28 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.31 | tmzt | fun |
| 21:50.40 | BruteSource | so xubuntu is a smaller ubuntu? |
| 21:50.51 | tmzt | no, but it has a cute mouse logo |
| 21:51.20 | BruteSource | mmmk? |
| 21:52.08 | tmzt | sorry, but I've run dsl usably on a p150, the same machine with xubuntu was unusable |
| 21:52.26 | Chicago | Because I am making a mistake "git checkout http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue" doesn't work. |
| 21:52.43 | Chicago | What is the syntax to checkout the htc-vogue head? |
| 21:53.03 | tmzt | and xubuntu doesn't have a real installer, so you have to use the debian (whatever ubuntu calls it) one |
| 21:53.18 | tmzt | because live won't work on 64m |
| 21:53.43 | tmzt | Chicago: look at the top of that page |
| 21:53.47 | BruteSource | whos installer is anaconda? |
| 21:53.53 | tmzt | redhat |
| 21:54.01 | BruteSource | ah i remember |
| 21:54.10 | tmzt | they run X (or ran) early |
| 21:54.21 | Chicago | tmzt: What do you mean exactly? |
| 21:55.07 | tmzt | git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 21:55.08 | BruteSource | redhat was my first distro |
| 21:55.11 | BruteSource | then suse |
| 21:55.16 | BruteSource | then gentoo |
| 21:55.22 | Chicago | tmzt: Is that the htc-vogue head? |
| 21:55.26 | BruteSource | then lfs, then nack to gentoo |
| 21:55.46 | tmzt | no, then git checkout htc-vouge (??) |
| 21:55.55 | tmzt | no, then git checkout htc-vogue (??) |
| 21:55.58 | BruteSource | back |
| 21:56.12 | tmzt | lfs, you mean with LFS-howto? |
| 21:56.51 | BruteSource | i mean lfs |
| 21:57.00 | BruteSource | linux from scratch |
| 21:57.20 | tmzt | read LFS-HOWTO sometime, it's really complicated but it's the only way to build linux from scratch |
| 21:57.39 | tmzt | lfs metadistro simplified it with scripts |
| 21:58.13 | Neutron83 | !seen cr2 |
| 21:58.15 | tmzt | I'll keep my debootstrap, but lfs will explain why bitbake works as well |
| 21:58.20 | BruteSource | lol no its not |
| 21:59.10 | tmzt | you build all the libraries statically, then rebuild them all dynamically, then build all the other gnuutils dynamically |
| 21:59.19 | BruteSource | all you need is a kernel to start from, then you build on |
| 21:59.35 | tmzt | I think this was before busybox too |
| 21:59.41 | BruteSource | ya |
| 22:02.37 | BruteSource | i love gentoo though |
| 22:03.04 | Chicago | Dan the mobile-linux/kernel.git tree is almost a gigabyte? |
| 22:03.10 | Chicago | dang, even |
| 22:03.31 | tmzt | git makes some large trees, since all the branches and version information are there too |
| 22:04.23 | Chicago | 19 percent |
| 22:04.23 | tmzt | on your end or linuxtogo? |
| 22:04.26 | BruteSource | thats why i like cvs and good old tarballs |
| 22:04.40 | Chicago | I have downloaded 30 percent now... average speed approximately 400KiB/s |
| 22:06.53 | Chicago | Actually it isn't a gigabyte... Git just had reported that I had already downloaded 100MiB in the first 10 percent of the download..... I am only at 200MiB now and its at 62%. |
| 22:23.17 | Chicago | tzmt: I think I am doing this wrong. "git checkout htc-vogue" inside the kernel directory results in error: pathspec 'htc-vogue' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 22:25.13 | Chicago | And now, I think I messed up my local cloned repo, because I just added a branch to it with 'git checkout -b htc-vogue' |
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| 22:29.00 | Chicago | It was 'git checkout origin/htc-vogue'... |
| 22:37.51 | tmzt | Chicago: you can delete the branch with a git branch (look at --help) command |
| 22:39.23 | Chicago | At this point, I checked out origin/htc-vogue and copied in the .config from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ and ran 'make oldconfig'... I also copied the titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c file intpu drivers/input/keyboard.... but how do I select the keyboard to be built into the kernel? |
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| 22:48.43 | BruteSource | anyone know a project for linux on psp slim with x? |
| 22:53.46 | BHSPitLappy | there is a psp development channel around here |
| 22:57.15 | Chicago | After checking out Martin's development kernel repo, I added the keyboard driver for my Titan to kernel/drivers/input/keyboard. How do I enable it? |
| 23:03.08 | BruteSource | bhsp ya know the name ofthis chanel? |
| 23:05.36 | BruteSource | i dont know anything about mips |
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| 23:07.23 | BHSPitLappy | BruteSource, I see a #pspdev and a #psp-programming |
| 23:07.56 | BruteSource | thx |
| 23:10.04 | Chicago | Anybody have a min to help me compile the kernel for my titan? |
| 23:12.23 | Neutron83 | hmmm Chicago |
| 23:12.30 | Neutron83 | whats the prob |
| 23:13.37 | Chicago | Here's where I am currently. I have downloaded Martin's development kernel using git and have checked out the origin/htc-vogue head. I also copied over the .config from Martin and ran make oldconfig inside the kernel directory. |
| 23:14.11 | Chicago | The problem is, I have a keyboard driver for my titan... and I have placed it in kernel/drivers/input/keyboard... but I don't know howto enable that driver in my kernel config. |
| 23:15.34 | BHSPitLappy | So I'm using Haret to determine some button-press GPIOS |
| 23:15.50 | BHSPitLappy | I've noticed that certain keypresses lead to a big jumble of output |
| 23:17.14 | Neutron83 | Chicago z searched into the .config file ?? |
| 23:17.55 | BHSPitLappy | Also, some keypresses just don't give me any gpios output. |
| 23:17.57 | Chicago | Neutron83: I don't think anything is added to the .config file just because I copy a file into drivers/input/keyboard. |
| 23:18.06 | BHSPitLappy | Anyone have any tips, who's done this before? |
| 23:18.41 | Chicago | Neutron83: What do I need to do? |
| 23:18.43 | Neutron83 | yea but there should be something with keyboard in it |
| 23:19.02 | Neutron83 | if you wait a minute i can say you what you need to look for |
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| 23:20.34 | Neutron83 | whats the name of the keyboard driver |
| 23:20.47 | Neutron83 | or did you wrote it your own ?? |
| 23:21.42 | Chicago | Neutron83: It is the titan-board-kaiser-keypad.c driver on ali1234's site. http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/ |
| 23:22.20 | Chicago | I think ginge wrote it. |
| 23:24.27 | Neutron83 | Chicago you sayed u used his .config |
| 23:24.42 | Neutron83 | i think he added it already then |
| 23:25.05 | Chicago | Neutron83: I used the .config from Martin's site here: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 23:25.14 | Chicago | The keyboard driver is from someplace else. |
| 23:26.30 | Neutron83 | k gimme some min |
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| 23:31.13 | Neutron83 | should be CONFIG_KAISER_KBD=y |
| 23:31.21 | Neutron83 | added in the config |
| 23:31.27 | Neutron83 | as its defined |
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| 23:32.33 | Neutron83 | but i dunno it is included |
| 23:32.58 | Neutron83 | give it a try else i reboot to linux and will check it |
| 23:33.15 | Neutron83 | sorry im lazy its late |
| 23:36.00 | Neutron83 | huh ?? |
| 23:36.28 | Chicago | Neutron83: Well, It is "Kaiser Keyboard" is not visible in the 'make menuconfig' |
| 23:36.55 | Neutron83 | naaaah not menuconfig |
| 23:37.09 | Neutron83 | add it to your config file |
| 23:38.02 | Neutron83 | if compiler doesnt find it it should promt you its possible solutions and should select the right one |
| 23:38.06 | Neutron83 | afaik |
| 23:38.47 | Neutron83 | so it did wile my kernel trys |
| 23:39.16 | BHSPitLappy | What's the difference between IL/OL/IC? |
| 23:39.21 | BHSPitLappy | when looking at gpios |
| 23:39.58 | Chicago | Okay, so I have opened my .config and added a CONFIG_KAISER_KBD=y.... then I went to make menuconfig to see if it could resolve the symbol KAISER_KBD... but it doesn't... and I see ".config:974:warning: trying to assign nonexistent symbol KAISER_KBD" |
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| 23:41.25 | Neutron83 | Chicago wait a min i fire up my linux station ..... was in bed already |
| 23:41.30 | Neutron83 | will check it |
| 23:41.31 | Neutron83 | mom |
| 23:42.52 | Neutron83 | but why u menuconfig ? |
| 23:43.27 | Chicago | I only run menuconfig to have the .config parsed and let me know if there are errors. |
| 23:43.53 | NetRipper | Chicago, you can just do make for that - it checks the .config first |
| 23:44.16 | Chicago | There is a MODULE_DESCRIPTION "Support for HTC Kaiser keyboard".... I would expect it to be visible in menuconfig. |
| 23:49.32 | Neutron83 | yea but to see it in menuconfig u need to add it to some inclueds |
| 23:49.42 | Chicago | Okay |
| 23:49.42 | Neutron83 | im looking where it was |
| 23:49.51 | Neutron83 | so you can do that |
| 23:49.52 | Chicago | So my next mistake was running 'make' |
| 23:50.06 | Chicago | I have cegcc as a cross compiler... but that's not the one I am supposed to use here is it? |
| 23:50.34 | Neutron83 | afaik not |
| 23:51.05 | Chicago | make: arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found |
| 23:51.23 | Neutron83 | dunno about that device mostly the people use jey |
| 23:51.32 | Neutron83 | that one |
| 23:51.38 | NetRipper | cegcc is to make wince executables |
| 23:51.43 | Neutron83 | you downloaded that |
| 23:51.46 | NetRipper | you need the arm-none-linux-gnueabi toolchain |
| 23:52.25 | Chicago | Is that the devkitarm toolchain? |
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| 23:53.42 | Chicago | BruteSource: On Gentoo, do you emerge 'dev-util/devkitarm-bin' for your arm-none-linux-gnueabi toolchain? |
| 23:53.42 | Neutron83 | http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/package2549/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/arm-2008q1-126-arm-none-linux-gnueabi-i686-pc-linux-gnu.tar.bz2 |
| 23:54.03 | Neutron83 | download unpack add bin to path |
| 23:54.19 | Neutron83 | and be happy |
| 23:54.24 | Neutron83 | so i did |
| 23:54.39 | NetRipper | yes that's the easiest way |
| 23:54.44 | NetRipper | although 2008q3 is newer |
| 23:54.52 | Neutron83 | jey |
| 23:55.06 | Neutron83 | was the first link i got |
| 23:56.09 | Chicago | What is the URI for 2008q3? |
| 23:56.23 | NetRipper | its on that same site |
| 23:56.51 | Neutron83 | http://www.codesourcery.com/gnu_toolchains/arm/portal/package2549/public/arm-none-linux-gnueabi/ |
| 23:57.02 | Chicago | Forbidden |
| 23:57.11 | Neutron83 | sorry |
| 23:57.23 | Neutron83 | wasnt meant to be posted |
| 23:59.52 | Chicago | <PROTECTED> |