| 00:06.36 | drasar | tmzt: All RMK patches should be in vanilla since 2.6.0, no? |
| 00:08.09 | tmzt | that's what I'm not sure about, but rmk (all of arm) was maintained outside of the tree at one point |
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| 00:22.20 | drasar | tmzt: Ok, thanks for explanation ;) Bye |
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| 00:37.04 | zule | who here has gentoo? |
| 00:37.12 | zule | what crosscompiler target are you using? |
| 00:37.38 | zule | arm-none-linux-gnueabi? |
| 00:42.37 | kaze | netRipper thanks :) that worked |
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| 02:48.59 | stdev | pokes solar |
| 02:49.31 | craig0r | smacks stdev upside the head |
| 02:49.37 | stdev | not nice. |
| 02:49.48 | craig0r | take your diamond and stuff it |
| 02:50.00 | stdev | diamond ftw |
| 02:50.11 | craig0r | I'll see you at the finish line, chump |
| 02:50.14 | stdev | envogue boy |
| 02:50.37 | stdev | lol |
| 02:50.37 | craig0r | hey, what's your opinion on git vs svn? |
| 02:50.51 | stdev | this is my first real exposure to git |
| 02:51.04 | craig0r | yeah it seems to be for a lot of us |
| 02:51.04 | stdev | seems pretty easy |
| 02:51.08 | stdev | does the job |
| 02:51.21 | stdev | i have yet to commit any changes or anything |
| 02:51.25 | stdev | im not sure how that all works |
| 02:51.25 | craig0r | the voguers are setting a repo up but we can't decide. |
| 02:51.29 | stdev | if you make a diff then commit that |
| 02:51.29 | zule | i prefer svn greatly |
| 02:51.30 | stdev | or what not |
| 02:51.31 | zule | :) |
| 02:51.35 | zule | but I know svn |
| 02:51.39 | zule | I don't know git |
| 02:51.44 | stdev | haha I know MS TFS :P |
| 02:51.51 | craig0r | i don't know either that much, but i do know svn a little |
| 02:51.55 | craig0r | hey, leave MS outta this |
| 02:52.07 | stdev | im just saying.. |
| 02:52.09 | craig0r | unless you can get it working on linux |
| 02:52.09 | stdev | lol. |
| 02:52.10 | craig0r | lol |
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| 02:54.00 | stdev | well it'll probably be a good idea to use git |
| 02:54.10 | stdev | as that seems to be the standard for android dev |
| 02:54.31 | craig0r | yeah, that's what i was thinking |
| 02:54.44 | stdev | i guess that linuxtogo site is free? |
| 02:54.46 | stdev | but fuck its slow |
| 02:54.57 | craig0r | we've got a guy who's gonna host the vogue |
| 02:55.14 | craig0r | he runs www.myhtcphone.com which is where i first found out about android on the Vogue |
| 02:55.45 | stdev | ah that'll be better then |
| 02:55.53 | zule | I'm sure we have plenty of hosts in the channel, but if you ever need another let me know and I can open up accounts on shadowmite.com |
| 02:55.55 | stdev | you guys are much more organized then us diamond crew |
| 02:56.00 | stdev | hopefully i can change that |
| 02:56.10 | craig0r | yeah, i hope so too st |
| 02:56.12 | zule | no one is working on android for cdma touch pro yet correct? |
| 02:56.24 | zule | doesn't want to re-invent the wheel |
| 02:56.26 | craig0r | um... i dunno what hardware the pro has |
| 02:56.36 | zule | it will be close to the cdma diamond |
| 02:56.37 | stdev | maybe the raphael would be close |
| 02:56.44 | stdev | yep |
| 02:56.48 | zule | raphael would be close, but gsm rather than cdma |
| 02:56.52 | craig0r | I think it's pretty much a Diamond with a kb, isn't it? |
| 02:56.57 | zule | yes... |
| 02:57.05 | zule | but I wouldn't expect the gpio's to line up |
| 02:57.13 | craig0r | yeah, true |
| 02:57.22 | craig0r | but that's not a huge deal |
| 02:57.38 | zule | what defconfig should I start with? |
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| 02:57.47 | zule | I pulled up msm_defconfig so far |
| 02:58.12 | zule | perhaps I didn't get the right git repo |
| 02:58.17 | zule | I don't see vogue in here |
| 02:58.24 | stdev | which one did you get? |
| 02:58.42 | zule | git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 02:59.16 | stdev | its a branch off of that |
| 02:59.21 | stdev | do you see a htcraphel_defconfig in arch/arm/configs ? |
| 02:59.23 | craig0r | i think that looks right... i haven't git'd anything yet but the official android code |
| 02:59.45 | zule | no htc anything |
| 03:00.00 | zule | I'm new to git |
| 03:00.00 | craig0r | one sec |
| 03:00.12 | zule | not sure how to get listings and branches etc |
| 03:00.31 | craig0r | yeah, me neither |
| 03:01.08 | craig0r | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
| 03:01.17 | craig0r | i'm not sure how to sync that with git |
| 03:01.20 | craig0r | but it's definitely there |
| 03:01.48 | stdev | git checkout -b htc-vogue origin/htc-vogue |
| 03:01.49 | stdev | try that |
| 03:02.15 | stdev | you type git checkout -b htc-msm-2.6.25 origin/htc-msm-2.6.25 to sync the raphael branch |
| 03:03.58 | craig0r | man, i wish dzo wasn't in new zealand... it'd make discussing things with him easier |
| 03:04.24 | zule | umm |
| 03:04.33 | zule | ok, I ran that checkout inside the kernel directory |
| 03:04.38 | zule | and it says it switched |
| 03:04.48 | zule | but still no htc anything in arch/arm/configs |
| 03:05.02 | zule | do I need to sync somehow also? |
| 03:05.02 | craig0r | i don't think you'll have any files that say "htc" |
| 03:05.08 | stdev | i do |
| 03:05.16 | craig0r | oh yeah? |
| 03:05.20 | craig0r | hm |
| 03:05.32 | craig0r | zule, just git 'er done |
| 03:05.40 | craig0r | i crack me up |
| 03:05.43 | zule | lol |
| 03:05.50 | craig0r | nerd humour ftw |
| 03:05.55 | stdev | scott@ender:~/diamond/kernel/arch/arm/configs$ ls -al htc* |
| 03:05.55 | stdev | -rw-r--r-- 1 scott scott 28599 2008-10-30 07:38 htcraphael_defconfig |
| 03:06.58 | stdev | so |
| 03:07.04 | stdev | git checkout -b htc-vogue |
| 03:07.07 | stdev | didnt get you the files? |
| 03:07.11 | stdev | were you in your kernel dir? |
| 03:07.27 | zule | foglem@astro ~/kernel $ git checkout -b htc-msm-2.6.25 origin/htc-msm-2.6.25 |
| 03:07.27 | zule | Branch htc-msm-2.6.25 set up to track remote branch refs/remotes/origin/htc-msm-2.6.25. |
| 03:07.27 | zule | Switched to a new branch "htc-msm-2.6.25" |
| 03:07.42 | zule | should I try vogue? |
| 03:08.05 | stdev | after you did that does the raphel_defconfig exist in kernel/arch/arm/configs ? |
| 03:08.31 | craig0r | lol i love how getting git to work is a big a challenge as actually developing |
| 03:08.38 | zule | it didn't, but after a git checkout now it does... weird |
| 03:08.52 | zule | that'll get me started |
| 03:08.53 | zule | :) |
| 03:08.56 | stdev | cool |
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| 03:11.08 | zule | all I know so far is haret tried to boot the vogue kernel happily and it hangs |
| 03:11.09 | zule | hehe |
| 03:11.34 | zule | but I'll toss the gsm raphael kernel in and start from there |
| 03:11.54 | zule | it made it all the way through the booting kernel progress bar |
| 03:12.19 | zule | so that means it was loaded to memory and jumped correct? |
| 03:12.48 | ahmeni | yeah |
| 03:13.02 | ahmeni | i had that problem till i made sure the files were in the root of the sdcard |
| 03:13.27 | craig0r | so zule, you're running a vogue? |
| 03:13.31 | zule | no |
| 03:13.33 | zule | cdma touch pro |
| 03:13.36 | craig0r | oh |
| 03:13.38 | zule | was running a vogue |
| 03:13.43 | zule | so I had those files handy |
| 03:13.45 | zule | heh |
| 03:13.47 | craig0r | ah |
| 03:13.48 | craig0r | ok |
| 03:13.57 | craig0r | yeah, i wouldn't expect it to work... different CPU's |
| 03:14.12 | zule | but with dzo's work I kinda slacked off and never did anything |
| 03:14.18 | zule | they are the same cpu actually |
| 03:14.23 | zule | different revisions |
| 03:14.24 | zule | but same |
| 03:14.32 | ahmeni | msm7500? |
| 03:14.34 | zule | 7500 vs 7501 |
| 03:14.44 | ahmeni | ahh |
| 03:14.46 | craig0r | yeah, but different enough for it to not work apparently, haha |
| 03:14.59 | zule | well, I'm sure it's the framebuffer gpio's... |
| 03:15.15 | ahmeni | which cdma carrier? |
| 03:15.17 | zule | Im sure went to a panic right away |
| 03:15.23 | zule | sprint |
| 03:15.45 | craig0r | probably... maybe the only difference in the two cpu's is the graphics |
| 03:16.03 | craig0r | framebuffer was the biggest problem in getting the diamond to boot as well |
| 03:16.21 | zule | gsm diamond? |
| 03:16.39 | zule | yea, being vogue is qvga, diamond/raphael are vga |
| 03:16.40 | ahmeni | 3 weeks till I have access to my carrier's data lab.. then i'll be able to test all the htc Telus CDMA phones |
| 03:16.43 | zule | it's gonna be different |
| 03:17.44 | craig0r | whoa... what do you mean you're getting access to Telus's data lab? do you work for them? |
| 03:18.55 | ahmeni | yeah |
| 03:19.03 | craig0r | that's sweet |
| 03:19.09 | craig0r | haha wanna "borrow" a Diamond for me? |
| 03:19.12 | ahmeni | just regular tech support though, heh |
| 03:19.23 | craig0r | how long you been doing that? |
| 03:19.35 | craig0r | you around the Toronto area, or out in BC? |
| 03:19.46 | ahmeni | about.. 2 months, out in BC |
| 03:19.54 | ahmeni | just finished blackberry training today |
| 03:20.28 | zule | sometimes would like to work for a carrier, but instead I work for a carrier grade transport manufacturer |
| 03:20.31 | zule | (Fujitsu) |
| 03:20.41 | craig0r | i worked tech support at d-link in ontario for a couple years. you'll wanna kill yourself after a while. |
| 03:21.27 | craig0r | ahmeni, you wouldn't get any inside info on upcoming phones coming to Telus, would you? like maybe the new motorola android? |
| 03:21.54 | ahmeni | nah, they're pretty hush hush about everything |
| 03:22.45 | craig0r | ah well |
| 03:22.52 | ahmeni | Ooh. D-Link. I used to work in Futureshop tech support. We'd basically tell people "$100 for us to set it up for you or you can call D-Link." |
| 03:23.09 | stdev | im in calgary ;o |
| 03:23.22 | stdev | but i used to work at d-link too :P |
| 03:23.33 | craig0r | yeah, he got outta this crappy province |
| 03:23.39 | stdev | damn straight |
| 03:23.43 | craig0r | i like Toronto as a city, but economy here = lose |
| 03:24.29 | woodson | i have wanted to visit there |
| 03:24.34 | craig0r | Toronto? |
| 03:24.47 | woodson | yea and other areas of canada on the eastern side |
| 03:24.57 | stdev | west is best ;o |
| 03:25.00 | craig0r | Montreal is as far east as i've gone. they're crazy there. |
| 03:25.04 | craig0r | Toronto's sweet, so is Calgary |
| 03:25.14 | craig0r | i'd really like to hit up BC at some point. |
| 03:25.24 | woodson | i have a friend in BC |
| 03:25.31 | woodson | have to go in the summer tho |
| 03:25.33 | woodson | DAMN! hehe |
| 03:25.34 | stdev | can't deny that montreal is fun |
| 03:25.40 | stdev | probably had some of the best times of my life there |
| 03:25.43 | woodson | cold up there |
| 03:25.43 | craig0r | it's fun... but they're nuts |
| 03:25.49 | woodson | how r they nuts |
| 03:25.56 | craig0r | they're french. |
| 03:25.58 | craig0r | haha i dunno |
| 03:25.59 | woodson | yea |
| 03:26.06 | woodson | i met some in maine, was wild |
| 03:26.08 | stdev | they drink a lot, do crazy things |
| 03:26.08 | craig0r | they're just weird people... worst drivers in canada are in quebec |
| 03:26.12 | craig0r | yeah |
| 03:26.14 | woodson | at old orchard beach in maine |
| 03:26.25 | stdev | they have their ways |
| 03:26.28 | craig0r | TONS of sex merchandising in montreal |
| 03:26.30 | craig0r | aka strip clubs |
| 03:26.35 | craig0r | and um... other sex merchants |
| 03:26.35 | stdev | you can easily pick out a french canadian lol |
| 03:26.36 | craig0r | lol |
| 03:26.43 | craig0r | great poutine though |
| 03:26.46 | stdev | lol |
| 03:26.48 | woodson | heheheh! |
| 03:26.52 | woodson | noice |
| 03:26.55 | craig0r | lol |
| 03:26.59 | craig0r | please |
| 03:27.02 | craig0r | this is a linux chatroom |
| 03:27.05 | stdev | the rippers are the best in canada, toronto's next |
| 03:27.07 | craig0r | i think you mean gnice |
| 03:27.08 | stdev | calgary is the worst |
| 03:27.15 | stdev | you know what they fucking do here? |
| 03:27.19 | craig0r | nothing? |
| 03:27.20 | stdev | they throw loonies at them |
| 03:27.22 | craig0r | leave their pants on? |
| 03:27.24 | craig0r | LOL |
| 03:27.27 | craig0r | yeah, you mentioned that the other day |
| 03:27.29 | stdev | i don't get it |
| 03:27.53 | woodson | getting lil more expensive for us with the exchange rates now |
| 03:28.01 | woodson | the loonie is all puffed up anymore |
| 03:28.06 | stdev | isn't our dollar low right now? |
| 03:28.06 | craig0r | me and addison went to the only rippers in Thunder Bay once... some dude tried to sell us heroin, and some other dude gave like $60 to a girl on stage, and she refused to even do anything |
| 03:28.12 | stdev | 70 cents or something stupid? |
| 03:28.20 | craig0r | i think like 77 |
| 03:28.20 | woodson | it got up there for a minute a few months ago eh |
| 03:28.33 | craig0r | yeah sure did |
| 03:28.38 | craig0r | even beat the US one for a bit |
| 03:28.55 | woodson | yea, if it woulda held you woulda seen some price drops |
| 03:28.59 | woodson | kinda unfair for a bit |
| 03:29.04 | craig0r | haha yeah really |
| 03:29.11 | zule | where can I find a initrd for raphael to test with? |
| 03:29.17 | zule | I know its not gonna work |
| 03:29.18 | zule | heh |
| 03:29.38 | zule | just the vogue one I guess will work |
| 03:29.45 | stdev | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/index.php?path=raphael_and_diamond-bootkit/ |
| 03:30.34 | zule | android.bin? |
| 03:30.40 | zule | cool... thanks |
| 03:30.56 | stdev | np |
| 03:31.11 | woodson | so android needs nothing of WM anymore to run? |
| 03:31.26 | woodson | on umm htc ported devices i mean |
| 03:32.04 | craig0r | um, not exactly |
| 03:32.28 | craig0r | i don't think the kernel on Raphael/Diamond can turn on the framebuffer... it relies on the fact that it's already on in WM, and takes over |
| 03:32.46 | craig0r | and with the Touch, it can't dial on demand, the data connection has to be there before booting into linux |
| 03:32.51 | stdev | yeah, the raphael initrd is console only atm |
| 03:33.17 | craig0r | but haret.exe kicks windows out of memory so linux gets complete control of the device |
| 03:33.55 | woodson | ahh, and android is still to much for the titans from what i am reading? |
| 03:34.01 | woodson | not enough ram |
| 03:34.30 | woodson | even with windows unloaded from ram |
| 03:34.54 | woodson | i havent seen andoid not once in use. Is it good? |
| 03:34.54 | ali1234 | 64mb is enough |
| 03:34.55 | craig0r | oy, titan... i dunno |
| 03:35.13 | craig0r | android is pretty epic. runs circles around WM |
| 03:35.14 | woodson | usability wise better than WM6 ? |
| 03:35.18 | woodson | great |
| 03:35.20 | craig0r | oh god yes |
| 03:35.50 | craig0r | i've got android running on my HTC Touch, and although a ton of features are still missing, it's pretty amazing |
| 03:36.03 | ali1234 | whether 64mb will be usable performance wise remains to be seen but it will run |
| 03:36.22 | woodson | the touch pro is an unknown at this point eh |
| 03:36.43 | ali1234 | somebody should port eol to msm |
| 03:37.03 | woodson | WM and android all amaze me |
| 03:37.08 | woodson | the tech anymore blows me away |
| 03:37.14 | woodson | my first cell was HUGE! |
| 03:37.17 | craig0r | some people know about the touch pro... not me. i've read a bit about the Diamond and have been running android on the Touch for a while, that's the real extent of my knowledge |
| 03:37.42 | craig0r | lol my first cell was a nokia um... 3195? something like that... running snake |
| 03:38.12 | zule | ok, same result, I guess I need to find the fb_base and fb_phys for this phone? |
| 03:38.37 | woodson | do u guys know of any documentation for the msm7500 better than the crap qualcomm put up |
| 03:38.38 | zule | I've never done the base starting point before |
| 03:38.39 | zule | heh |
| 03:39.26 | stdev | haha snake |
| 03:39.29 | woodson | not any of your reverse stuff but published stuff out there |
| 03:39.31 | stdev | fuck i loved that game |
| 03:39.31 | craig0r | nope |
| 03:39.44 | craig0r | yeah, i was disappointed when my next phone didn't have it |
| 03:39.50 | woodson | really now |
| 03:39.53 | craig0r | afaik |
| 03:40.06 | woodson | did u like tron cycles too |
| 03:40.16 | stdev | bubble breaker is the new fad |
| 03:40.16 | craig0r | never playedit |
| 03:40.17 | stdev | come on |
| 03:40.21 | craig0r | haha srs |
| 03:40.44 | woodson | tron light cycle was one of the 4 levels you could pick |
| 03:41.05 | woodson | right left up down. It was fun. l guess hehe |
| 03:41.13 | stdev | mindless |
| 03:41.27 | craig0r | my second phone had Crab Catch |
| 03:41.48 | craig0r | not quite as fun |
| 03:41.53 | stdev | my next phone had bubble breaker |
| 03:42.07 | craig0r | lol you had that nokia for a while i guess, eh? |
| 03:42.21 | stdev | lol nah i had an early bubble breaker |
| 03:43.33 | craig0r | oy just got a message from martin regarding switching from SDK to full source for dev |
| 03:43.46 | stdev | ? |
| 03:43.48 | craig0r | he says he wants to stick with SDK cuz the Maps app isn't in the source |
| 03:43.56 | woodson | this may be outlandish, i dont know anything about the capability but can android run mame |
| 03:43.58 | craig0r | but he showed me how to get radio working in the source |
| 03:44.02 | woodson | is there a mame port for it |
| 03:44.08 | craig0r | LOL |
| 03:44.12 | craig0r | not yet, but i'm sure there will be |
| 03:44.14 | craig0r | hahaha |
| 03:44.14 | craig0r | epic |
| 03:44.15 | stdev | lol |
| 03:44.22 | stdev | i think thats a bit early |
| 03:45.00 | woodson | the real pac man rom on my phone while i am shopping with wife. Priceless |
| 03:45.08 | woodson | or any other nonesensical activity |
| 03:46.00 | craig0r | i've got the real pacman rom on one of those joysticks you hook up to your tv |
| 03:46.07 | craig0r | it's good for drunken nights with the boys |
| 03:46.13 | woodson | how u know its real |
| 03:46.17 | woodson | i mean |
| 03:46.25 | stdev | lol |
| 03:46.29 | woodson | does the pattern work |
| 03:46.32 | woodson | :) |
| 03:46.36 | craig0r | lol i dunno |
| 03:46.37 | craig0r | i don't cheat |
| 03:46.38 | craig0r | haha |
| 03:46.43 | craig0r | it's from Namco |
| 03:46.47 | craig0r | that's real enough for me |
| 03:46.50 | woodson | its not a cheat, the apple pattern |
| 03:46.53 | craig0r | probably not the original one |
| 03:46.59 | craig0r | oh, what apple pattern? |
| 03:47.05 | stdev | im not old enough to know this apple pattern |
| 03:47.06 | woodson | the real machine could do it |
| 03:47.20 | woodson | after the 4th level you could use the apple pattern |
| 03:47.26 | woodson | run up 13 keys easy |
| 03:47.26 | craig0r | stdev stays away from anything called "Apple" |
| 03:47.35 | craig0r | lol |
| 03:47.36 | stdev | srs |
| 03:47.39 | woodson | i used to do it for cash back when pacman was nutzo! |
| 03:47.59 | craig0r | when pacman was nutzo, i was probably like 3 |
| 03:48.10 | woodson | yea it was awhile ago |
| 03:48.21 | woodson | cant imagine how huge it was at the time |
| 03:48.44 | woodson | i could play for 2 hours on a quarter, my mom taught me that pattern :) |
| 03:48.46 | craig0r | i like pacman, but my heart belongs to donkey kong |
| 03:48.51 | craig0r | LOL your mom |
| 03:48.52 | craig0r | that's hilarious |
| 03:48.54 | woodson | yea |
| 03:49.02 | craig0r | the thought of my mom teaching me anything about video games... |
| 03:49.17 | craig0r | she played tetris a little when i got a gameboy, but that's about it |
| 03:49.30 | stdev | my mom used to play zelda wiht me |
| 03:49.35 | craig0r | epic |
| 03:49.35 | woodson | pacman was the only game my mom played and she was extremely good at it |
| 03:49.49 | woodson | it was bigger than life at the time |
| 03:49.54 | craig0r | i used to be real good at pacman, when i was like 8 - 10 |
| 03:49.54 | woodson | songs and things were written hehe |
| 03:49.57 | craig0r | and donkey kong |
| 03:50.01 | craig0r | hahaha |
| 03:50.07 | woodson | yea |
| 03:50.18 | craig0r | i've lost my touch |
| 03:50.20 | woodson | i liked donkey kong alright but never had a pattern for it :P |
| 03:50.21 | craig0r | damn 3D games |
| 03:50.22 | craig0r | lol |
| 03:50.41 | woodson | the midway rom for mame allows the apple pattern |
| 03:50.47 | woodson | i think thats the right one. |
| 03:51.10 | woodson | its the *real* so thats what i meant. They are all real of course |
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| 03:52.05 | woodson | i think its amazing what u guys do here, for the record |
| 03:52.13 | woodson | and i love canadians for the record :) |
| 03:54.33 | stdev | how could you not love canadians? ;\ |
| 03:54.38 | stdev | we love everybody. |
| 03:55.06 | stdev | k im out |
| 03:55.10 | stdev | later everyone |
| 03:55.16 | BHSPitMonkey | My mom's into the 2D Zeldas. |
| 03:56.00 | BHSPitMonkey | When I got Link's Awakening and my first Game Boy when I was 5, both my parents had files |
| 03:56.10 | craig0r | peace scott |
| 03:56.27 | woodson | later stdev |
| 03:56.39 | craig0r | canada + android = win |
| 03:57.07 | craig0r | that's my favourite zelda game i think |
| 03:57.18 | woodson | my wife and fam are into littlebigplanet rightnow |
| 03:57.21 | BHSPitMonkey | It's definitely the best Game Boy game, ever. |
| 03:57.24 | woodson | HUGE |
| 03:57.28 | craig0r | oh man, my buddy at work got that game |
| 03:57.32 | craig0r | he won't stop talking about it |
| 03:57.36 | craig0r | and i won't stop talking about android |
| 03:57.38 | woodson | yea its one of a kind |
| 03:57.43 | woodson | they both are |
| 03:57.47 | craig0r | haha yeah |
| 03:57.48 | woodson | so u both ok hehe |
| 03:57.51 | craig0r | lol |
| 04:05.07 | ahmeni | dang, still getting mmc0: Command timeout |
| 04:05.22 | craig0r | aw |
| 04:05.27 | craig0r | i'm trying a new build on my Touch right now |
| 04:05.32 | craig0r | we'll see how this goes |
| 04:05.35 | ahmeni | is there way to find a proper msm_sdcc.msmsdcc_fmax value without guess-and-testing? |
| 04:05.55 | craig0r | i'm not the guy to ask |
| 04:05.57 | craig0r | :S sorry |
| 04:06.00 | ahmeni | heh |
| 04:10.54 | woodson | there is no overclock for msm right |
| 04:11.06 | woodson | or under, no xscale like ability |
| 04:13.55 | craig0r | there is power management, which i would have to assume includes cpu scaling |
| 04:14.04 | craig0r | but i haven't really looked at that |
| 04:14.58 | woodson | i am most interested in 7500, and that power management that may control clock. have any ideas where i could read up on it? |
| 04:15.33 | craig0r | yeah... one sec |
| 04:15.44 | woodson | cool thnx craig! |
| 04:15.55 | craig0r | it's not an easy read |
| 04:15.56 | craig0r | haha |
| 04:15.58 | craig0r | not documentation |
| 04:16.08 | woodson | anything is better than what i got hehe |
| 04:16.08 | craig0r | source code that dzo has worked on |
| 04:16.14 | craig0r | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
| 04:16.40 | woodson | does it work at all, i mean has he or anyone noticed it doing anything like scaling? |
| 04:16.40 | craig0r | and if you know how to use git, then you can clone the source to your computer |
| 04:16.43 | woodson | or is this still experimental |
| 04:16.46 | craig0r | yeah, it works great |
| 04:16.51 | woodson | oh hell |
| 04:16.53 | craig0r | it's still experimental |
| 04:16.54 | craig0r | but |
| 04:17.00 | craig0r | works great so far anyway |
| 04:17.01 | woodson | yea |
| 04:17.17 | woodson | have u guys tested the clock, like highest stable for msm7500 |
| 04:17.22 | woodson | or other devices |
| 04:17.26 | craig0r | i've run android on my phone for two days straight, and the power usages seems comparable to WM6.1 |
| 04:17.39 | woodson | cuz u dropped the clock right |
| 04:18.11 | woodson | u say that in a way to make it sound like u dropped the clock |
| 04:18.14 | craig0r | yeah... there was a build a few days ago where you could select the level of power management at boot through the default.txt |
| 04:18.25 | woodson | ohhhh that is sweet |
| 04:18.31 | craig0r | again, i had nothing to do with the dev... it was all dzo |
| 04:18.40 | woodson | yea its in the src too right |
| 04:19.04 | craig0r | if you go to the Vogue forums, and go back a few pages from the last post, you'll come across a post dzo made about it |
| 04:19.21 | craig0r | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265&page=149 |
| 04:19.32 | craig0r | i'm not sure the exact page |
| 04:19.38 | craig0r | i'm going to bed though |
| 04:19.43 | woodson | very nice thanks a lot craig, will make for interesting reading |
| 04:19.46 | craig0r | good luck and good night! |
| 04:19.50 | craig0r | any time |
| 04:20.02 | woodson | nite. have a good one |
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| 09:06.15 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, you have the android source there, right? |
| 09:11.59 | Abracadabr4 | hi /all |
| 09:13.49 | Abracadabr4 | is it possible to install a live bootable linux CD on a MicroSD card and make it bootable on HTC Kaiser ? ...and if so, what needs to be modified in Windows Mobile ? |
| 09:13.52 | Abracadabr4 | :) |
| 09:14.41 | cygnusx2 | Abracadabra.... of course not |
| 09:15.13 | cygnusx2 | 1. a boot cd is made for a bios like boot, a mobile phone like the kaiser has a spl, it boots on a whole different way |
| 09:15.31 | cygnusx2 | 2. that live boot cd is made for a x86 or x64 architecture |
| 09:15.37 | cygnusx2 | not a ARM architecture |
| 09:15.59 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, what 'android source' are you referring to? i have the source to the kernel, not to the initrd |
| 09:16.08 | cygnusx2 | ah |
| 09:16.17 | cygnusx2 | ok, i thought you had that too |
| 09:16.32 | NetRipper | i can unpack current initrd's and modify them etc. but anyone can do that |
| 09:16.32 | NetRipper | :) |
| 09:16.36 | cygnusx2 | i'm really excited to try out a 1.0 initrd, but i suppose someone should build that itself |
| 09:17.00 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, vogue has 1.0, but it's too big for a single initrd |
| 09:17.15 | cygnusx2 | well, that vogue uses a initrd of 1 mb to load the system |
| 09:17.18 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, or at least, haven't tried myself yet |
| 09:17.21 | cygnusx2 | which is in a different file |
| 09:17.26 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, yes it uses sdcard, which we dont have |
| 09:17.29 | cygnusx2 | i tried that, but it tries to load it to a sd card |
| 09:17.30 | cygnusx2 | yeah |
| 09:17.37 | cygnusx2 | can't we change that to load to another place? |
| 09:17.40 | NetRipper | or well, raphael does, but driver doesnt work |
| 09:18.00 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, yes, we'll need to get nand working for that (your internal storage is placed on nand i believe) |
| 09:18.11 | NetRipper | or maybe it's an internal sd card |
| 09:18.13 | NetRipper | who knows |
| 09:18.13 | NetRipper | :) |
| 09:18.36 | cygnusx2 | ok, but we can't load it from the normal memory? i mean, not the internal 'storage card' but the base memory on the device? |
| 09:18.58 | Abracadabr4 | Cygnus, so what would you recommend ? |
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| 09:23.46 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, there's a maximum size the initrd can be.. last time i saw the 'too large' message it reported it can be about 22 mb max |
| 09:24.58 | cygnusx2 | yes, well i was thinking about something else |
| 09:25.31 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, i was thinking about. making a initrd (just like the vogue) who loads the system file. only then not on the sd card but on the normal storage (because we can't access that memory card).. |
| 09:25.59 | cygnusx2 | Abracadabr4, i would reccomend not trying a linux live cd because that doesn't work... |
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| 09:27.01 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, so, if you can't access that memory yet (like you already mention), how do you suppose we access the system file? |
| 09:28.10 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, so if i understand correctly, haRET loads a file into the memory as 'drive', and that's like the only thing you can access after that loads? |
| 09:28.27 | Abracadabr4 | cygnusx2, ok, I think you made that clear enough .... |
| 09:28.28 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, something like that, yes |
| 09:28.38 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, ah. figures... |
| 09:28.57 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, ok. well then indeed, a nand driver is the only solution to getting it to work i guess |
| 09:29.10 | cygnusx2 | too bad the 1.0 initrd is that big.. |
| 09:29.25 | cygnusx2 | and too bad haret can only load to 20 mb... |
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| 09:29.32 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, well haven't really checked for myself if it can be made smaller, but can't really imagine |
| 09:29.52 | NetRipper | cygnusx2, the 20mb limit differs per device, it tries to manage with the memory it has :) |
| 09:30.33 | NetRipper | there are some requirements for the placing of the initrd, such as page alignment and continues memory, and at the moment when it's loading into memory, windows is still active, so that memory can't be usec, etc. |
| 09:32.17 | cygnusx2 | NetRipper, well ok. i guess touching the nand would be the best solution. sooner or later we need this functionality anyhow |
| 09:32.28 | NetRipper | yes |
| 09:32.29 | NetRipper | indeed |
| 09:32.35 | NetRipper | we'll need storage to keep things persistent |
| 09:32.48 | cygnusx2 | ok |
| 09:32.59 | cygnusx2 | who can make such a driver, druidu? |
| 09:33.22 | NetRipper | dont know |
| 09:33.33 | NetRipper | requires experimenting |
| 09:36.10 | Abracadabr4 | What is the recommended mobile phone, for apps, features, modifications, etc... ? |
| 09:36.16 | Abracadabr4 | out of curiosity.... |
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| 11:26.34 | rl2000 | I might get a hend on a HTC elf, isnøt that the same as the vogue except it's cdma? |
| 11:26.41 | rl2000 | even isn't |
| 11:31.27 | NetRipper | cr2_, do you know how diamond's internal storage can be accessed? would it be part of the NAND or would it be like a fixed sd card via mmc? |
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| 11:43.52 | cr2_ | hi |
| 11:44.18 | cr2_ | NetRipper: you can try to add the entire NAND as 1 partition |
| 11:44.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: i've seen nand over SD converter only on P4225 |
| 11:46.10 | cr2_ | http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225 |
| 11:46.28 | cr2_ | this chip was undocumented too ;) |
| 11:48.34 | cr2_ | http://www.phison.com/English/productView.asp?ID=135&SortID=7 |
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| 12:29.12 | NetRipper | cr2_, hm ok |
| 12:37.04 | ulaas | NetRipper, we are doomed. no android on diamond. noooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 12:37.31 | NetRipper | ulaas? |
| 12:37.41 | NetRipper | get a grip man :p |
| 12:37.59 | ulaas | NetRipper, i got too excited reading the NAND stuff. |
| 12:38.11 | NetRipper | and you bricked your device? |
| 12:38.55 | NetRipper | cr2_, do you know if it'll be FAT/FAT32 filesystems on the nand? or another filesystem specific to wince? |
| 12:39.00 | ulaas | NetRipper, not yet but i am positive on bricking than getting stuck on WM6 :) |
| 12:39.37 | NetRipper | you'd rather brick a 1000$ device than running wm6? :) |
| 12:48.54 | ulaas | NetRipper, positive |
| 12:49.25 | NetRipper | i'd say you should've bought a G1 :p |
| 12:49.40 | NetRipper | guess you hate that keyboard pretty much :p |
| 12:49.41 | ulaas | NetRipper, damn right.... or even vogue :) |
| 12:49.48 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 12:54.02 | ulaas | NetRipper, so the next step is to find a NAND driver eh? |
| 12:54.14 | NetRipper | i guess |
| 12:54.25 | NetRipper | there's a MSM nand driver in the android kernel |
| 12:55.31 | ulaas | NetRipper, think i should set up my ubuntu box with the toolchain soon! damn i am too busy.. :( |
| 12:57.30 | NetRipper | :) |
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| 13:01.02 | juliusr | 'trying to extract Android 1.0 filesystem ... damn slow |
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| 13:02.02 | dcordes | cr2_, I tried to motivate ppl in the forum to try nand, even made a zImage but nobody got cojones |
| 13:04.41 | cr2_ | dcordes: do you have a linload.exe for raph100 ? |
| 13:04.47 | dcordes | NetRipper, schlash figured out his problem with the git code was local. did you hear about any other problems? |
| 13:04.54 | cr2_ | dcordes: with nand. |
| 13:05.01 | dcordes | cr2_, how to make one? |
| 13:05.15 | cr2_ | dcordes: i'll try it, who cares about a dead raph ? ;) |
| 13:05.35 | cr2_ | NetRipper knows :) |
| 13:05.39 | dcordes | well it doesn't kill kaiser, so with the same config it won't harm other devices |
| 13:08.33 | cr2_ | wtf should something be deleted ? |
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| 13:10.08 | dcordes | well who knows. if you get a writable device, and somebody overwrites their spl with dalvik ... :) |
| 13:11.21 | NetRipper | dcordes, did you also know what it was? |
| 13:11.59 | NetRipper | cr2_, catting /dev/mtd0 does nothing, empty line |
| 13:12.16 | dcordes | NetRipper, he said he messed up the kernel images on their way to his device. |
| 13:12.37 | dcordes | NetRipper, try hexdump |
| 13:12.54 | cr2_ | NetRipper: dmesg ? |
| 13:14.03 | NetRipper | cr2_, cat /dev/msd0 gives GSM data btw :p |
| 13:14.07 | dcordes | NetRipper, did you build with the halibut nand confs |
| 13:14.36 | NetRipper | and /dev/msd7 crashes, but should give gps data |
| 13:14.41 | NetRipper | dcordes, no |
| 13:14.41 | dcordes | NetRipper, did you try writing? |
| 13:14.52 | NetRipper | dcordes, i just enabled MTD and msm_mtd |
| 13:15.00 | NetRipper | dcordes, no, i dont dare |
| 13:15.03 | dcordes | ok you can try my zImage/config I posted in xda |
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| 13:15.16 | dcordes | it has the halibut nand/mtd config |
| 13:15.22 | dcordes | and the rest as in git |
| 13:15.29 | NetRipper | funny i see incoming phone calls and gsm idle data |
| 13:15.29 | NetRipper | :p |
| 13:15.49 | NetRipper | dcordes, ok |
| 13:15.53 | dcordes | htc signal quality |
| 13:15.57 | NetRipper | yes |
| 13:16.02 | NetRipper | i think |
| 13:16.25 | dcordes | if you forget to turn off phone in wince, you can checkout if somebody/who calls you :) |
| 13:16.28 | NetRipper | HTCDIS, CREG, CRING, CLIP |
| 13:16.35 | NetRipper | hehe yea |
| 13:16.44 | NetRipper | i called myself expecting to get my voicemail or busy tone |
| 13:17.08 | NetRipper | and cos i dont have friends that call me |
| 13:17.09 | dcordes | you're kind of lucky the stock smd registers match raphael |
| 13:17.09 | NetRipper | obviously |
| 13:17.10 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 13:18.39 | NetRipper | too bad i can't ctrl-c out of it |
| 13:18.44 | NetRipper | guess i really need bash for that |
| 13:19.08 | NetRipper | 4x6 font ruins your eyes btw :p |
| 13:19.31 | NetRipper | but does fit hell of a lot info (almost whole dmesg) |
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| 13:22.58 | dcordes | NetRipper, you wrote something to the smd0 ? in kaiser-bootkit/README.txt I explain how you can use minicom for that |
| 13:23.09 | NetRipper | no didnt write, just read |
| 13:23.15 | NetRipper | ok |
| 13:23.31 | cr2_ | "stock smd registers" ? |
| 13:24.06 | dcordes | cr2_, check htcraphael_defconfig |
| 13:24.37 | dcordes | and the patches in git, then you know what I mean by stock |
| 13:24.39 | cr2_ | can you compile a linload.exe for me ? i have no time to mess with things now. |
| 13:24.46 | dcordes | they don't touch smd code and it works out of the box. |
| 13:25.00 | cr2_ | strange, but ok :) |
| 13:25.08 | NetRipper | :) |
| 13:26.11 | NetRipper | dcordes, you have an angstrom in which you actually have a bash? |
| 13:26.18 | NetRipper | angstrom console instructions |
| 13:26.18 | NetRipper | ***************************** |
| 13:26.18 | NetRipper | Login with user root, password is blank. |
| 13:26.36 | dcordes | no don't use angstrom.bin |
| 13:26.39 | dcordes | I can up one |
| 13:26.48 | dcordes | try the nand image first |
| 13:26.51 | NetRipper | ;) |
| 13:28.42 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=125960&d=1225380028 |
| 13:31.12 | ulaas | dcordes, should i try also? |
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| 13:31.43 | dcordes | ulaas, yea boot onsole image with it and do hexdump /dev/mtd0 |
| 13:33.03 | rl2000 | Question: I know the elf uses the TI omap processor but googling it seems to indicate that prototype of android was run on this processor. Would it then be possible to run android on the elf as well? |
| 13:33.16 | rl2000 | it's that or when I get mine put my sim card in the elf and play with the diamond |
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| 13:36.56 | NetRipper | dcordes, hexdump /dev/mtd0 returns nothing, exits directly |
| 13:37.06 | dcordes | hrm |
| 13:37.10 | juliusr | according to this : http://elinux.org/Android_on_OMAP android should run on omap processors |
| 13:37.38 | dcordes | NetRipper, did you read the dmesg? nand should report a device ID |
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| 13:37.50 | NetRipper | yes it did report device id, but resetted already |
| 13:37.54 | NetRipper | as i gtg, back tonight |
| 13:38.23 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MSM_NANDID |
| 13:38.36 | dcordes | ok |
| 13:38.40 | dcordes | cya |
| 13:39.00 | dcordes | ulaas, you can write to /dev/smd0 |
| 13:40.24 | dcordes | ulaas, if you have cu you can run cu -l /dev/smd0 and type stuff |
| 13:41.56 | dcordes | if available use minicom: start 'minicom -s' to set device to /dev/smd0, baud rate to 38400 and turn flow control off. |
| 13:48.42 | dcordes | naja das war mein wort zum wochenende :) happy halloween |
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| 13:48.50 | dcordes | chan |
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| 13:49.07 | dcordes | bbl |
| 13:57.52 | ulaas | dcordes, do you want me to give you any particular info? |
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| 14:02.28 | ripnetuk2 | hi, thank you for all your great work. Its very exciting for a geek like me to see the kernel boot on my touch pro :) |
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| 14:07.44 | cr2_ | ok, when i'll get some more free time, i'll do more systematic development. |
| 14:08.38 | Neutron83 | narf |
| 14:09.00 | Neutron83 | hey guys |
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| 15:39.38 | craig0r | pokes stdev |
| 15:43.07 | zule | hows it going... So today I'll ask, any pointers on my very beginning here. After I get off work I go to work on it, looks like I gotta do everything. First things first the bootloader base location set in the kernel config is the location haret loads the data to? |
| 15:44.21 | craig0r | i wish i knew enough about kernels to answer that with confidence, but it sounds right to me. |
| 15:44.25 | craig0r | don't take my word for it though |
| 15:44.41 | zule | heh |
| 15:44.59 | zule | ok, in general any sites or information you read to get started I need to read |
| 15:45.09 | zule | I have a lot of programming background |
| 15:45.19 | zule | but never bothered with the beginning of a port before |
| 15:45.28 | zule | I always came in after kernel was booting |
| 15:45.29 | craig0r | i've basically just been using the xda forums. |
| 15:45.33 | craig0r | haha |
| 15:45.39 | craig0r | well... on the Vogue, the kernel is booting |
| 15:45.44 | craig0r | which is why i haven't paid much attention to it |
| 15:45.51 | craig0r | what device you on again? |
| 15:47.00 | zule | cdma raphael |
| 15:47.13 | zule | sprint touch pro |
| 15:47.51 | craig0r | oh |
| 15:47.56 | craig0r | the kernel's booting in that i think |
| 15:48.00 | craig0r | hang on, i'll get a link |
| 15:48.34 | craig0r | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402002 |
| 15:48.39 | craig0r | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux |
| 15:48.59 | craig0r | those show that they've got the kernel booting, and a fb kb, but nothing else is working yet, from what i understand |
| 15:55.06 | zule | yea, that's gsm |
| 15:55.11 | zule | cdma is completely different |
| 15:55.12 | zule | :( |
| 15:55.15 | craig0r | oh snap |
| 15:55.24 | zule | I'm starting off their code though |
| 15:55.39 | zule | I expect it should be mostly the same |
| 15:55.52 | zule | once I get the changes in locations and gpio's/irq's etc |
| 15:55.58 | craig0r | maybe cuz i'm a complete n00b at mobile linux, but i don't understand why gsm and cdma devices would be so different. i mean wouldn't the radio be the only difference? |
| 15:56.06 | craig0r | as far as kernels are concerned anyway? |
| 15:56.16 | zule | well, the hardware is designed differently between them |
| 15:56.22 | craig0r | ah |
| 15:56.30 | woodson | u would think craig |
| 15:56.36 | zule | slightly different cpu's and software loads... |
| 15:56.43 | craig0r | that's balls |
| 15:56.47 | zule | so the addresses of things will be different |
| 15:56.56 | woodson | it dont make any sense, |
| 15:56.58 | craig0r | ah, i think the boss ordered pizza for lunch... bbiab |
| 15:57.01 | zule | I would expect almost all drivers to port over nicely |
| 15:57.26 | woodson | yea |
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| 16:10.20 | craig0r | dzo doesn't think USB is gonna port to the Vogue nicely at all. i don't think he even wants to bother with it |
| 16:11.23 | zule | I wonder how he figures that |
| 16:11.34 | zule | maybe it's controlled through it's own ASIC? |
| 16:11.36 | craig0r | hang on, lemme find his post |
| 16:13.05 | craig0r | k, dzo says: "USB is a long way off because the MSM7X00 hardware is completely different to the MSM7201A. I think we'll have to learn to live without it." |
| 16:13.22 | craig0r | i say bollocks to that |
| 16:17.10 | craig0r | i'm not hardware dev, i've only ever done higher-level stuff, but it doesn't sound like something that's that far out of reach |
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| 16:22.04 | Neutron83 | hi there anyone around ? |
| 16:22.50 | zule | well |
| 16:23.01 | zule | the problem is the qualcomm core specs are completely closed |
| 16:23.07 | zule | you have a pay a LOT of money for them |
| 16:23.12 | zule | and sign NDA's of course |
| 16:23.45 | Neutron83 | i try to get linux kernel running on HTC shift's MSM7200 side |
| 16:24.23 | Neutron83 | i just did some n00b testings, (gotten a kaisers linux kernel) and tried running it throu harret |
| 16:25.29 | Neutron83 | boot up fine .... and then it stuck after harret sayed boot 100% |
| 16:26.14 | Neutron83 | what would you think is best to do next ?? get my own kernel done ? |
| 16:26.25 | zule | yea, welcome to my world... think that means it loaded and jumped. Next you need to test if it hit your code |
| 16:26.29 | zule | and how far it got |
| 16:26.40 | zule | IE, find gpio of a led or light to test with |
| 16:26.49 | zule | and start setting it allover the place |
| 16:26.49 | zule | lol |
| 16:27.01 | Neutron83 | ok i see |
| 16:27.11 | Neutron83 | sounds "nasty" |
| 16:27.23 | Neutron83 | buts isnt the kaiser rom MSM7200 also ? |
| 16:27.50 | Neutron83 | so why isn't it working ? different gpio ? |
| 16:28.59 | zule | most likely yes |
| 16:29.09 | Neutron83 | wtf is htc doin there ? |
| 16:29.14 | zule | different address, different framebuffer page locations, different gpio's |
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| 16:30.26 | Neutron83 | can u give me a hint where from i can begin with testing out the framebuffer page locations ? ? |
| 16:31.11 | Neutron83 | the angstrom.bin loaded with a nasty purple screen .. but it seemed that it hit something in the right way |
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| 16:33.47 | Neutron83 | sorry i am a bit into linux dev but never did that "reversing" in hardware level |
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| 16:40.23 | cr2 | Neutron83: can you run haret commands ? |
| 16:45.18 | Neutron83 | jea via remote console |
| 16:45.36 | Neutron83 | after the angstrom thing bootes it still is alive |
| 16:45.48 | Neutron83 | when i try the android.bin it hangs |
| 16:47.40 | Neutron83 | cr2, query .. as we can speak german in there im not good at english |
| 17:11.06 | Neutron83 | hmmmmm# |
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| 17:19.36 | Neutron83 | cr2 hope u are here after 20:00 (GMT+1) cause i need to go of and get home ! :) hope to get some help from you # |
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| 17:50.06 | goxboxlive | hi BabelO |
| 17:50.27 | goxboxlive | my stupid new machine has screwed up my root partition. |
| 17:50.40 | goxboxlive | damn i havce to install everything again |
| 17:50.47 | BabelO | hi goxboxlive |
| 17:50.50 | BabelO | goxboxlive: why ? |
| 17:53.25 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i have no idea, i was trying to play some music from it, and i didnt get any respons on my squeezbox. So i took a look at the server |
| 17:53.39 | goxboxlive | ANd i had to reboot it with the powerbutton. |
| 17:53.58 | goxboxlive | when i get grub it complain about missing sda4 partition. |
| 17:54.15 | goxboxlive | I have checked out sda4 and all the data is corrupt |
| 17:54.27 | goxboxlive | but my sda1 (/boot) is ok |
| 18:06.35 | schlash | Where and who sets the "registered_fb[0]" ? cant really find it in the code. and when the framebuffer console gets initialized it doesnt have any framebuffer devices registered |
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| 18:16.27 | oliver_ | any news on the new kaiser branch? |
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| 18:27.52 | schlash | anyone know why the console is getting loaded before the framebuffer driver on the msm-htc-2.6.25 ? i get a problem there that the console cant find any registered fb device .. and its because its get loaded afterwards |
| 18:34.38 | druidu | schlash: there's an early boot console driver |
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| 18:35.17 | schlash | yeah the one you wrote |
| 18:35.48 | schlash | but when your ts driver loads it also fails due to no framebuffer detected |
| 18:35.48 | druidu | in config: System Type -> Boot console for HTC phones |
| 18:35.57 | schlash | ahh ok |
| 18:36.12 | druidu | either disable it or make sure the 2 suboptions are enabled, especially use console only during boot |
| 18:39.14 | schlash | thanks |
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| 18:50.51 | BabelO | goxboxlive: still around ? |
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| 18:51.10 | goxboxlive | BabelO: hgi |
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| 19:17.03 | Neutron83 | hey cr2 |
| 19:17.10 | Neutron83 | u there ?? |
| 19:20.33 | Neutron83 | hmmmm |
| 19:27.30 | Neutron83 | hmmm |
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| 20:02.28 | Tinyboom | ouch.. dismantled G1: http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/english/NEWS_EN/20081024/160067/ |
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| 22:24.08 | oliver_ | is anyone working on the polaris here? |
| 22:24.53 | oliver_ | i need the newest kernel source for the polaris |
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| 22:43.05 | szsoftware | oliver_: still around? |
| 22:43.39 | oliver_ | hi yes im here |
| 22:44.13 | szsoftware | did you get help relating polaris? have read the latest log, but maybe have lag |
| 22:44.45 | oliver_ | no i didnt get any answers yet |
| 22:44.56 | szsoftware | ok |
| 22:45.39 | szsoftware | dcordes is the main developer for kaiser, which is almost the same as polaris, but w/o keyboard |
| 22:46.06 | szsoftware | I do compile/test/look into code for polaris |
| 22:46.29 | szsoftware | dcordes has the most stuff on his webspace |
| 22:46.30 | oliver_ | awesome, you can help me |
| 22:47.07 | szsoftware | which is commonly: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/ |
| 22:47.49 | oliver_ | can i get your latest .config? |
| 22:48.06 | oliver_ | i tried compiling the polaris kernel and gsm did not work for me |
| 22:48.34 | szsoftware | you can fetch googles android-htc-msm-2.6.25 and apply our patches |
| 22:48.48 | szsoftware | which kernel? |
| 22:49.04 | geh | hello ! I just discover the Diamond port on xda-developers forum. I have some C/posix skills, and maybe I can help you to go forward. just tell me how |
| 22:49.36 | szsoftware | geh: you should look for druidu and NetRipper |
| 22:49.54 | szsoftware | geh: these are main developers for Diamond/Raphael |
| 22:51.27 | NetRipper | geh, read top post @ http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelLinux for instructions on where to find code and there's a link that explains how to fetch it etc |
| 22:51.27 | NetRipper | and build |
| 22:51.51 | NetRipper | the link is for kaiser so just replace htc-msm with htc-msm-2.6.25 ;) |
| 22:52.03 | szsoftware | oliver_: when you apllied the patch http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/diffs/git-diff-android-msm-htc-2.6.25_kaiser_20082210.diff you should be able to "make htcpolaris_defconfig" |
| 22:52.38 | szsoftware | s/apllied/applied/ |
| 22:53.25 | szsoftware | oliver_: which kernel did you compile? How did you test gsm? |
| 22:54.31 | geh | ok thanks. |
| 22:55.03 | oliver_ | i fetched android-htc-msm-2.6.25 and compiled the kaiser config and the polaris config |
| 22:55.26 | oliver_ | i originally though the kaiser was best to work with until tonight, when i discovered the polaris kernel worked much better |
| 22:55.43 | oliver_ | but when i went to compile my own polaris kernel gsm didnt not work |
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| 22:56.29 | oliver_ | but when i use your build it works |
| 22:56.51 | oliver_ | i'll try patching it and trying again |
| 22:57.07 | cygnusx8 | any luck on a nand driver yet? ;) |
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| 23:00.42 | oliver_ | oh man, im gonna sound like a noob here but how do i patch using .diff |
| 23:00.46 | oliver_ | ive only ever used commits |
| 23:01.32 | szsoftware | oliver_: in the kernel dir: patch -p1 < your.diff |
| 23:01.55 | oliver_ | thankyou! |
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| 23:07.08 | ahmeni | pokes his Iris. Boot damn, ye, boot! |
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| 23:16.15 | oliver_ | szsoftware: sorry im having a lot of trouble with this diff can you give me the commit # instead |
| 23:17.25 | szsoftware | oliver_: sorry I cant, because dcordes has made this in his local tree |
| 23:17.38 | szsoftware | oliver_: what problems do you have? |
| 23:17.57 | szsoftware | oliver_: are there any hunks? |
| 23:18.23 | oliver_ | its giving me lots of errors |
| 23:18.29 | oliver_ | hunks 1-18 failed |
| 23:18.50 | szsoftware | how did you fetch the kernel? |
| 23:19.24 | szsoftware | you can please pastebin your steps and/or output |
| 23:19.54 | oliver_ | i downloaded and extracted from http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kernel-kaiser-2.6.25.tar.bz2 |
| 23:20.38 | szsoftware | oliver_: no, don' use this. It's the old (pre google release) one |
| 23:20.46 | druidu | so, I've been playing with the nand aka /dev/mtd0 and /dev/mtdblock0 devices on my diamond... |
| 23:20.49 | oliver_ | gahh thats why lol |
| 23:20.52 | szsoftware | oliver_: fetch from git.android.com |
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| 23:21.35 | szsoftware | oliver_: git-clone git.android.com/kernel.git |
| 23:21.52 | geh | NetRipper: 'make htckaiser_defconfig ARCH=arm' didn't work. I should certainly use another strind than 'htckaiser' ? |
| 23:21.53 | oliver_ | thankyou very much i'll give it a go now |
| 23:22.23 | szsoftware | oliver_: git-checkout -b android-htc-msm-2.6.25 origin/android-htc-msm-2.6.25 |
| 23:22.26 | NetRipper | geh, htcraphael |
| 23:22.38 | NetRipper | geh, everywhere where it says kaiser you have to replace with raphael probably |
| 23:22.42 | NetRipper | :) |
| 23:23.18 | geh | NetRipper: ok it works, you should probably put that in the wiki page |
| 23:23.24 | NetRipper | ok |
| 23:30.06 | oliver_ | oliver@oliver-desktop:~/android-kernel$ git-clone git.android.com/kernel.git |
| 23:30.07 | oliver_ | Initialized empty Git repository in /home/oliver/android-kernel/kernel/.git/ |
| 23:30.09 | oliver_ | fatal: 'git.android.com/kernel.git': unable to chdir or not a git archive |
| 23:30.10 | oliver_ | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly |
| 23:30.12 | oliver_ | fetch-pack from 'git.android.com/kernel.git' failed. |
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| 23:30.56 | apt | zdooder <n=troy@c-67-160-50-188.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 17d 2h 38m 24s ago, saying: 'wasup: very cool'. |
| 23:30.56 | oliver_ | sorry ive worked it out |
| 23:31.03 | oliver_ | missing git:// |
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| 23:33.47 | druidu | any tips for unbricking my Diamond? (after attempting to mount /dev/mtdblock0, read-only though...) |
| 23:33.54 | geh | NetRipper: ok, I have put the zImage on my phone. How can I launch it ? |
| 23:34.11 | druidu | I can still enter bootloader and flash stuff, but still stops at "touch diamond" loading screen |
| 23:34.54 | szsoftware | oliver_: oh, sorry, my fault |
| 23:36.10 | oliver_ | receiving objects :) |
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| 23:36.42 | geh | NetRipper: maybe it's not executable, and I need other tool to make a .exe like the one you provide on the wiki ? |
| 23:38.02 | szsoftware | geh: you need haret to run linux/zImage |
| 23:38.27 | geh | Maybe I'm hiting my 'unsigned file' problem (any tips ? is there a tool to sign a file?) |
| 23:38.59 | szsoftware | geh: which file you need to sign? |
| 23:39.18 | NetRipper | geh, sec. |
| 23:39.25 | NetRipper | geh, no you need haret |
| 23:40.04 | NetRipper | geh, download contents of this dir: |
| 23:40.06 | NetRipper | http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/raph_20081029-00_cleanups/ |
| 23:40.19 | geh | yesterday, I tried android, and have to remove the battery to reboot my phone. since then, it refuses to start some programs by complaining the file is not signed or missing component |
| 23:40.28 | druidu | geh: it's not that error |
| 23:40.42 | druidu | read it careful, it says that either the file is unsigned OR some component is missing |
| 23:40.50 | druidu | I had some problem, my guess is that some dll got corrupted |
| 23:41.35 | druidu | I did a hard reset and worked fine after that (you can't run any .exe, not even if it was already installed), only installing .cab files works |
| 23:41.37 | geh | yes, but even your .exe refuses to work... and it's a lonely .exe, not an installed program |
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| 23:42.01 | geh | ok |
| 23:42.05 | NetRipper | geh, ouch, you're getting that error when starting haret.exe? |
| 23:42.15 | NetRipper | geh, sec. |
| 23:42.24 | NetRipper | geh, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/Default_Signed_DisableSecurity.CAB |
| 23:42.28 | NetRipper | try that to disable default security |
| 23:42.30 | druidu | it's not that bad, not as bad as fucking with mtd0 :) |
| 23:42.40 | zule | netripper: so I want to get cdma touch pro working... any hints on how I should start? I got the latest raphael git repo |
| 23:42.41 | NetRipper | indeed |
| 23:42.42 | druidu | NetRipper: I bet it won't work, but he can try :P |
| 23:42.48 | NetRipper | druidu, you probably need the hardspl commands |
| 23:42.51 | geh | NetRipper: i got this error even when starting your raph_xxxx downloaded on the wiki |
| 23:43.17 | geh | will try your .cab in a few seconds |
| 23:43.20 | NetRipper | druidu, you need olipro or ...nex in #xda-devs if there's no thread on unbricking devices yet |
| 23:43.45 | druidu | I'll try to find them, thanks :) |
| 23:45.54 | geh | NetRipper: install of the cab failed. What will I lost I i hard reset the phone ? calendar/contacts/notes, I fear ! |
| 23:46.20 | oliver_ | szsotware: do i apply the diff after the git checkout? |
| 23:46.23 | NetRipper | geh, yes, exactly that... |
| 23:46.32 | NetRipper | geh, everything except storage card/internal storage |
| 23:47.08 | szsoftware | oliver_: yes |
| 23:48.08 | szsoftware | oliver_: btw. you can undo all changes in git tree with "git-reset --hard" and "git-clean" |
| 23:48.44 | oliver_ | oliver@oliver-desktop:~/android-kernel$ git-checkout -b android-htc-msm-2.6.25 origin/android-htc-msm-2.6.25 |
| 23:48.46 | oliver_ | fatal: Not a git repository |
| 23:48.47 | oliver_ | Failed to find a valid git directory. |
| 23:49.59 | druidu | did you cd to the rep dir? |
| 23:50.24 | druidu | it probably created a subdir "kernel" or "msm" |
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| 23:51.35 | szsoftware | oliver_: yes, "cd kernel" first |
| 23:52.59 | oliver_ | ah thanks, i created the folder in the wrong place |
| 23:53.22 | druidu | geh: btw, you can install outlook (it won't work with outlook express) and sync your phone |
| 23:53.29 | druidu | you won't loose anything like that |
| 23:53.57 | oliver_ | File to patch: ? |
| 23:54.24 | geh | druidu: yes, I know.... but I'm on a linux laptop, and have to switch the hardrive to do that :'( |
| 23:54.42 | druidu | there're also some linux syncing apps I believe |
| 23:54.46 | druidu | never used them though |
| 23:55.28 | geh | druidu: me neither, just synce to copy files, but not for synchronising caldendar/etc... |
| 23:56.02 | geh | druidu: if you konw which dll is corrupted, maybe I can find a replacement somewhere |
| 23:56.17 | oliver_ | patching the diff gave me lots of errors again but now the console has halted on "file to patch: " what shall i put |
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