| 00:00.08 | zdooder | Any guesses as to whether it might be "input_report_switch(idev, SW_LID, [0|1])"? |
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| 00:03.03 | tank6436 | Hi guys |
| 00:03.05 | zdooder | wasup: are you still there? |
| 00:03.07 | wasup | yeah |
| 00:03.22 | wasup | i have no clue what it would be... |
| 00:03.26 | wasup | did cr2_ |
| 00:03.30 | tank6436 | is there a list of AT commands that we can send to the radio somewhere? |
| 00:03.35 | zdooder | Do you think you could take a crack at figuring out the GPIO for the keyboard opening/closing? |
| 00:04.12 | wasup | yeah |
| 00:04.19 | wasup | through haretconsole |
| 00:04.25 | wasup | ? |
| 00:04.25 | zdooder | exactly |
| 00:04.27 | wasup | ok |
| 00:04.31 | wasup | just a sec... |
| 00:04.42 | zdooder | If you can figure it out I'll try to plug it into the switch thing and we can see if it works |
| 00:04.52 | wasup | ok |
| 00:04.54 | wasup | :) |
| 00:05.39 | zdooder | tank6436: does this help? http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hardware:AT_Commands |
| 00:07.14 | tank6436 | zdooder: yes, that will be helpful |
| 00:07.24 | tank6436 | zdooder: thank you |
| 00:08.04 | zdooder | tank6436: no problem hope it's standard enough to apply :) |
| 00:08.16 | wasup | zdooder: where do i download the newest haret console? |
| 00:08.24 | tank6436 | I've been following the project for a moment now but I hadn't used git before, how do I get the repository for htc-vogue or other |
| 00:09.09 | tank6436 | wasup: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-0.5.2.tar.gz |
| 00:09.37 | wasup | thanks |
| 00:09.41 | zdooder | tank6436: I followed the directions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782 (post #3) |
| 00:10.00 | tank6436 | zdooder: okay will look |
| 00:11.29 | tank6436 | zdooder: thanks, I think that will do it, I guess I'll be able to get the htc-vogue branch from there |
| 00:11.54 | zdooder | tank6436: Right, you'll have to modify the git checkout command accordingly |
| 00:13.49 | tank6436 | zdooder: okay, as you know it's not always very straight forward hehe but thanks |
| 00:14.35 | tank6436 | zdooder: especially git has been giving me trouble |
| 00:15.01 | zdooder | Yeh I still don't git it ;-) |
| 00:15.06 | tank6436 | haha |
| 00:16.06 | wasup | connection refused....bs |
| 00:16.08 | wasup | wow |
| 00:16.12 | wasup | not my day' |
| 00:17.26 | tank6436 | wasup: did you press listen in Haret and then ./console ip-of-the-phone ? |
| 00:17.54 | wasup | yeah... i know the problem though |
| 00:17.57 | wasup | :) |
| 00:18.02 | tank6436 | wasup: one of the problems I had initially was the firewall and then I had to put sudo ./console etc |
| 00:18.05 | tank6436 | all right |
| 00:18.28 | wasup | im stupid...my computer was plugged in via hardline and my phone was connected to a seperate wireless router |
| 00:19.24 | tank6436 | I looked a very long time for my issue and it turned out the corporate firewall was blocking the outbound connection on port 9999 |
| 00:19.30 | tank6436 | :| |
| 00:20.00 | wasup | hmm... i hope they havent set anything like that up at my work. |
| 00:20.22 | tank6436 | at my work they have I can't even connect to this chat ! |
| 00:20.33 | tank6436 | it sucks so much |
| 00:21.25 | wasup | wow |
| 00:23.07 | wasup | im in |
| 00:23.09 | wasup | :) |
| 00:23.27 | tank6436 | so I'm interested in all of this and currently cloning the repository... where can I learn more about all of this arm coding ? |
| 00:23.45 | tank6436 | information on the forums is sparse |
| 00:24.14 | wasup | tank6436: i dont know... dzo or dcordes would |
| 00:25.11 | tank6436 | wasup: yeah I would assume they know a bit ;) |
| 00:26.22 | tank6436 | wasup: this will help you for the console/ GPIO watching : http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation |
| 00:28.17 | szsoftware | hey guys, how to open/transform "C source files as an array" for processing with gimp? |
| 00:36.36 | zdooder | Is xda-developers.com down for anyone else? |
| 00:36.36 | wasup | ok.... watch gpios then i just open and close the keyboard right? |
| 00:36.49 | zdooder | wasup: I think so yes... |
| 00:37.00 | zdooder | wasup: Might have to ibit the spamming gpios again too |
| 00:38.34 | zdooder | nevermind, xda-dev seems to be working now |
| 00:39.43 | wasup | i did |
| 00:41.42 | wasup | pastebin? |
| 00:41.51 | zdooder | sure |
| 00:42.14 | wasup | actually ill type it... |
| 00:42.16 | wasup | two lines |
| 00:43.52 | wasup | open keyboard.... 002.778 GPIOS 92a00c20(206)=7e07020 |
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| 00:46.03 | wasup | close keyboard.... 005.671 GPIOS 92a00c20(206)=7e03820 |
| 00:50.46 | wasup | zdooder: you need anything else? |
| 00:51.00 | wasup | like the side buttons or anything? |
| 00:56.11 | zdooder | could try I guess ... I'm not really ready to look at those I don't think, but it wouldn't hurt to collect the information.. |
| 00:56.28 | webPragmatist | for the most part what phone is being developed the most on here do you guys think? |
| 00:56.34 | webPragmatist | kaiser? |
| 00:56.36 | wasup | its fine...just let me know when your ready and ill get it done... |
| 00:56.40 | wasup | vogue |
| 00:56.42 | webPragmatist | vogue? |
| 00:57.03 | webPragmatist | sorry my rdp lagged |
| 00:57.16 | wasup | yeah... from what i think... dzo's got something new for it every week or so |
| 00:58.50 | webPragmatist | okay |
| 01:00.59 | zdooder | wasup: I don't think it's SW_LID ... that seems to just stop screen updates and android doesn't seem happy with it. I'm going to try SW_TABLET_MODE |
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| 01:05.18 | zdooder | wasup: does your version of haret match the version of haretconsole there? |
| 01:12.06 | wasup | umm...yeah... |
| 01:12.25 | zdooder | wierd, I'm not used to seeing big hex numbers like that |
| 01:12.37 | zdooder | I usually see something like "in1-14(206)=0" |
| 01:13.49 | zdooder | oh that would suck, looks like on Kaiser the keyboard open/close is a CPLD thing |
| 01:14.36 | wasup | i was supposed to watch the GPIOS right? |
| 01:14.56 | zdooder | heheheh quit asking me like I know what I'm doing !!! :) |
| 01:15.12 | wasup | well i put Watch GPIOS |
| 01:15.26 | wasup | and each time i opened and closed the screen it gave me the same reading |
| 01:15.35 | wasup | should i watch the irql? |
| 01:15.39 | webPragmatist | babel babel |
| 01:16.45 | zdooder | I dunno, I was going down a road of having to add the cpld location to a "TRACES" variable so that wi would "see" it, but hard to make heads or tails of that.. |
| 01:17.25 | zdooder | dcordes told me something about being able to add the cpld location to haretconsole (which should make reading the output easier I think) but I haven't figure that out yet either. |
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| 01:44.30 | wasup | zdooder: ok...well i'm leaving work...ill talk to you tomorrow..... |
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| 02:13.06 | dzo | hi zdooder; how's the titan kbd coming along? |
| 02:13.22 | zdooder | Hey dzo, it's coming okay, I have gotten the keyboard working okay now |
| 02:13.42 | dzo | good, does sound work on titan? |
| 02:14.15 | zdooder | I haven't tried it, is there something in android that I can use to test it? |
| 02:14.54 | dzo | yes, ringtones, youtube, and key tones. |
| 02:16.11 | zdooder | I will try it here in a minute and see if I can do that... |
| 02:16.24 | zdooder | Any hints on the best way to map out the cpld/egpio stuff? |
| 02:16.34 | dzo | but smem is probably slightly different for you, there's a table near the start that give the location of the rpc channels that you need to set up the audmgr and pptask modules on the dsp. |
| 02:17.34 | dzo | i've documented all the cpld bits i could find on the wiki. |
| 02:17.36 | zdooder | when you say "keytones" do you mean if I go into the dialer and press buttons I should hear DTMF? |
| 02:17.42 | dzo | yes |
| 02:18.18 | dzo | console should have a bunch of messages about audio |
| 02:18.21 | dzo | too |
| 02:18.22 | zdooder | Ok I heard what might have been the start of a tone, but could also be described as a noisy "click" when pressing a button in the dialer... then nothing. |
| 02:18.50 | dzo | any console messages? |
| 02:18.50 | zdooder | Though if I wait a few seconds between presses the noisy click repeats |
| 02:19.01 | zdooder | How do you look at the console? |
| 02:19.15 | dzo | yes, audio switches of if not used for a few secs. |
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| 02:19.44 | dzo | sym 0 on the soft kbd |
| 02:20.21 | dzo | but be careful, it also sends keypresses to android so will probably dial random numbers when you press enter! |
| 02:20.28 | zdooder | hehehe I don't think I can type that :-( |
| 02:21.12 | zdooder | Maybe you can tell me if I'm wrong, vogue-ts.c seemed to map IRQ19 to cpld buttons, right? |
| 02:21.28 | dzo | yes, probably |
| 02:21.52 | zdooder | Does that mean that "watch irqs" in haretconsole should show IRQ19 triggering when those buttons are pressed? |
| 02:21.59 | dzo | the sym stuff is hard coded into my kbd. |
| 02:23.00 | dzo | actually 19 is the mdp interrupt, cpld is a gpio int, you should see int 33 when you press a button. |
| 02:23.18 | zdooder | What is 'mdp'? |
| 02:23.57 | dzo | int 32 and 33 are interrupts for the gpios, just today i documented some of the gpio ints on the wiki. |
| 02:25.35 | dzo | it's gpio interrupt 19 which is mapped to a linux irq by the gpio code. |
| 02:25.48 | dzo | does any of that make sense? |
| 02:26.37 | zdooder | It's not entirely confusing, but I think I'm still struggling to understand what exactly a GPIO is (memory-mapped I/O register? except sometimes it can trigger an irq also?) |
| 02:26.50 | dzo | check voguegpios and titancpld on the xda wiki |
| 02:27.53 | zdooder | titancpld says "Vogue CPLD" ;-) How accurate is that, in terms of someone who knows is sure it's the same? |
| 02:29.07 | dzo | i put it there cos there is no vogue memory map, but you are right it could be different for titan. |
| 02:29.19 | zdooder | ok fair enough |
| 02:30.00 | zdooder | So if, for instance, the camera button generates IRQ1: GPIO2(33)=1 ... is that the same as the Vogue? |
| 02:33.26 | dzo | yes, that is the interrupt for all the gpios in bank2, the others are irq 32, form there the gpio code checks the hardware and generates a different linux irq which is NUM_MSM_IRQS (or similar) + gpio number |
| 02:33.56 | zdooder | AH HA! Okay, *THAT* makes a ton of sense. |
| 02:36.22 | dzo | if you look at the code it calls gpio_to_irq to convert the gpio no to an irq |
| 02:38.59 | dzo | if you send me a dump of the start of smem for titan i could help get audio working, just the first 16K should do. |
| 02:39.22 | zdooder | You'll have to forgive me, I'm not sure what smem is or how to dump it, but I'm happy to try |
| 02:40.02 | dzo | try vwf smem 0xb5100000 0x00100000 |
| 02:41.13 | dzo | that will write a files called smem to your device, smem is the shared memory used to communicate with the arm9. |
| 02:43.38 | zdooder | dzo: Is "sym" a sticky-alt on your keyboard? |
| 02:44.40 | dzo | no, its ctrl but sym 0 and sys 6 are hard coded to change console. |
| 02:44.48 | dzo | s/sys/sym |
| 02:44.57 | zdooder | got it, ok thanks. |
| 02:45.02 | dzo | s/sys/sym/ |
| 02:48.58 | zdooder | camera button should pull up the soft keyboard right? |
| 02:53.17 | dzo | yes |
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| 02:59.13 | zdooder | Sometimes I feel like a total idiot. I just figured out that the vwf command is a haretconsole command not something I ought to run from the linux console on the phone ;-) |
| 03:00.36 | dzo | sorry, i should have said that |
| 03:00.54 | zdooder | Not your fault; I should have realized sooner. |
| 03:01.14 | zdooder | I have the smem file then... is there anything I ought to look for in it specifically or should I send it to you? |
| 03:01.53 | dzo | if you send it to me i'll be able to tell fairly quickly if it will work. |
| 03:02.05 | dzo | do you have my email address? |
| 03:02.30 | zdooder | Just the one from your website... |
| 03:02.38 | zdooder | is that one okay? |
| 03:02.45 | dzo | yes, that's it |
| 03:03.41 | zdooder | ok, it's sent ... it compresses well :) |
| 03:12.10 | dzo | OK, got it, its identical so something else must be different, it's probably the adsp queue numbers, you will have to trace accesses to the adsp to find them out. |
| 03:14.44 | zdooder | dare I ask how to trace them? lol |
| 03:19.17 | dzo | try addlist mmutrace 0x4c400034 1 then wi 20 and do volume up on the phone so it makes a noise. the queue addresses should start with an 8, e.g. 80000466 |
| 03:21.44 | dzo | also try pressing the end key, it will give you some different numbers |
| 03:23.03 | zdooder | I get a warning about "tracing non-section mapping (4c400000) not well supported" should I set the permissive mmutrace 1 as it suggests? |
| 03:23.21 | dzo | yes, it should work] |
| 03:24.44 | zdooder | I see some IRQs triggering (M2A_0(0), ADSP_A11(22), M2A_6(6) and M2A_3(3)) but nothing but IRQs are shown. |
| 03:26.16 | dzo | it must be mapped somewhere different the physical address is ac400034 so do dump mmu 2 0xac400034 |
| 03:27.51 | zdooder | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:27.51 | zdooder | 90400000 | ac400000 | 1MB section | AP=1 T=2 |
| 03:27.51 | zdooder | b0400000 | ac400000 | 1MB section | AP=1 T=2 |
| 03:28.27 | zdooder | should I do 'addlist mmutrace p2v(0x4c400034) 1' instead? |
| 03:28.28 | dzo | ok use 0x48400034 instead of 4c400034 |
| 03:29.04 | dzo | no, p2v is not really a good idea since there are multiple mappings |
| 03:29.13 | zdooder | ok |
| 03:29.16 | zdooder | Got something that time |
| 03:30.35 | dzo | you should really play audio lots of different ways since the queues are different for different tasks but what you have is a start. |
| 03:30.36 | zdooder | 8000046a shows up warly, 80000466 starts appearing later |
| 03:30.44 | zdooder | s/warly/early |
| 03:32.47 | dzo | OK, that is the same must be something else different! |
| 03:33.38 | dzo | Audio works in calls doesn't it |
| 03:34.14 | dzo | If you press the cam button when in a call does audio come through the speaker? |
| 03:43.28 | zdooder | OK... audio in calls seems to work, although com.android.phone quit unexpectedly. When I pressed the cam button it seemed like it switched to the speaker but was very low volume |
| 03:44.16 | zdooder | Then things sort of seemed to hang, I can't get rid of the softkeyboard, and there's a "Sorry!" message but I can't read it because the soft keyboard is obscuring it. |
| 03:46.54 | zdooder | I'm going to have to take a break now, wife is wanting me to spend some time with her, but I'll keep working on it |
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| 04:08.40 | tmzt | dzo: is pxa development on kernel.git master? |
| 04:14.27 | tmzt | dcordes: is pxa development on kernel.git master? |
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| 04:54.22 | ALoGeNo | lo all |
| 05:05.21 | tmzt | hey |
| 05:14.47 | ALoGeNo | hey tmzt :) |
| 05:15.30 | ALoGeNo | how is your day? |
| 05:15.39 | tmzt | allright. |
| 05:15.46 | ALoGeNo | perfect |
| 05:15.55 | ALoGeNo | not bad over here :) |
| 05:15.56 | tmzt | working on motoq for kernel.git master, not sure how its going yet |
| 05:16.14 | tmzt | apparently its upstream 2.6.26 |
| 05:16.17 | ALoGeNo | hum interestant stuff :) |
| 05:16.28 | tmzt | only magicican is supported among htc's |
| 05:16.58 | ALoGeNo | aham that is are you doing brute and you? |
| 05:17.13 | tmzt | no |
| 05:17.17 | ALoGeNo | oh.. |
| 05:17.30 | tmzt | but they will probably share the userspace to some point |
| 05:18.08 | ALoGeNo | im learning to compile busybox kernel (psp stuff) |
| 05:18.52 | ALoGeNo | ill try to boot debootstraped debian mipsel in the busybox kernel |
| 05:18.53 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 05:19.29 | ALoGeNo | i dont know im doing but its fun ;) |
| 05:19.46 | ALoGeNo | what im doing* |
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| 05:26.52 | tmzt | well, it's building, we'll see |
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| 08:23.43 | tmzt | does anyone have a basic initramfs to boot to a prompt? |
| 08:27.45 | BabelO_ | moooorning ! |
| 08:33.32 | tmzt | hi, up too late, excited cause I got q booting linux again |
| 08:35.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: not so loud please! morning btw |
| 08:37.16 | BabelO_ | hi tmzt :) |
| 08:37.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i already take coffee this morning :) |
| 08:39.58 | tmzt | do you know what root= you use for initramfs ? |
| 08:51.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: new idea for andrew |
| 08:52.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok? |
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| 09:13.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: he can add speed view on the green part of the 3D track :) |
| 09:13.26 | BabelO_ | by adjusting the color |
| 09:17.14 | kkaze-wor | anyone still working on kaiser? |
| 09:17.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: I have seen such graphs, they are hard to read for most users, especially for bikes and hikes |
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| 10:48.21 | tsdogs | cr2_: there? |
| 10:48.48 | marajin | allo allo |
| 10:49.20 | marajin | kkaze-wor: Ginge/dcordes/me are working on the kaiser, technically. |
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| 12:04.05 | dcordes | yo |
| 12:06.14 | LanceHaig | marajin: how far is the kaiser build ? |
| 12:06.25 | LanceHaig | is it useable yet? |
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| 12:12.53 | kkaze-wor | LanceHaig its usable |
| 12:13.12 | kkaze-wor | unstable |
| 12:13.16 | kkaze-wor | but usable |
| 12:14.11 | LanceHaig | are there install docs i could look at? |
| 12:14.21 | LanceHaig | appologies if that is a dumb question |
| 12:16.07 | LanceHaig | quick question |
| 12:16.17 | LanceHaig | how do I know my chipset is supported? |
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| 12:21.56 | kkaze-wor | chipset? you have kaiser |
| 12:22.11 | LanceHaig | I do sir |
| 12:22.24 | LanceHaig | Tytan_II |
| 12:22.42 | LanceHaig | I want to help test this to help you guys |
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| 12:31.12 | kkaze-wor | LanceHaig : http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
| 12:32.27 | LanceHaig | kkaze-wor: Thanks I just found that |
| 12:32.38 | LanceHaig | will have a go and see what happens |
| 12:32.47 | LanceHaig | what should I look out for? |
| 12:33.05 | LanceHaig | or what needs testing |
| 12:33.32 | dcordes_ | kkaze-wor: what do you consider unstable? |
| 12:33.44 | dcordes_ | SD is |
| 12:33.49 | dcordes_ | that's about it |
| 12:34.00 | dcordes_ | without the sd drivers I never had issues |
| 12:34.13 | dcordes_ | kernel runs quite stable |
| 12:34.17 | kkaze-wor | with 1.0 ? |
| 12:34.24 | kkaze-wor | i only tried 0.8 |
| 12:34.32 | kkaze-wor | from lgorris folder |
| 12:34.39 | kkaze-wor | any new build out, |
| 12:34.43 | dcordes_ | man I'm talking about the linux kernel, not about andr0id |
| 12:34.46 | kkaze-wor | oh |
| 12:34.56 | kkaze-wor | kernel is ok |
| 12:35.02 | kkaze-wor | android is unstable |
| 12:35.03 | dcordes_ | we don't have the sources so it would be a coincidence if android would work well |
| 12:35.11 | kkaze-wor | rightish |
| 12:35.27 | LanceHaig | dcordes_: can linux run on a kaiser? |
| 12:35.32 | kkaze-wor | yes |
| 12:35.35 | LanceHaig | or do I have to wait? |
| 12:35.38 | kkaze-wor | angstrom runs |
| 12:35.44 | kkaze-wor | console works |
| 12:36.00 | LanceHaig | same files from the boot-kit? |
| 12:36.03 | kaze_work | yup |
| 12:36.10 | kaze_work | but change in default.txt |
| 12:36.10 | LanceHaig | ok I will have a look |
| 12:36.16 | LanceHaig | great |
| 12:36.17 | kaze_work | android.bin to angstrom.bin |
| 12:36.26 | LanceHaig | will we ever be able to wipe off CE? |
| 12:36.41 | dcordes_ | there have been talks about flashing linux as OS |
| 12:36.43 | kaze_work | i hope so |
| 12:36.47 | dcordes_ | on the msm7* platform |
| 12:36.51 | kaze_work | :) |
| 12:36.53 | dcordes_ | let's see what the future will bring |
| 12:37.04 | LanceHaig | how do I check if I have an MSm7? |
| 12:37.15 | dcordes_ | kaiser is msm7200 |
| 12:37.25 | LanceHaig | ok sorry |
| 12:37.41 | kaze_work | tytan2 is kaiser? |
| 12:37.45 | kaze_work | i dont quite get it |
| 12:37.46 | dcordes_ | lol go to the corner, face to the wall |
| 12:38.05 | dcordes_ | yep tytn 2 is kaiser |
| 12:38.14 | LanceHaig | just copying bin files to sd card now so I can install them |
| 12:38.34 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com main page has a nice description of device names/aliases |
| 12:39.20 | LanceHaig | can I run haret from sd? |
| 12:39.29 | LanceHaig | or does it need to be from the system? |
| 12:42.34 | kaze_work | ohhhhh |
| 12:42.38 | kaze_work | tytn = tytan |
| 12:42.56 | kaze_work | ^^; |
| 12:43.29 | dcordes_ | LanceHaig: it makes no difference |
| 12:48.48 | LanceHaig | dcordes_: well i have tried both bin files and they both stop on 100% |
| 12:48.56 | LanceHaig | seems my ROM is not good for this |
| 12:49.07 | LanceHaig | i will have to change it |
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| 13:17.48 | LanceHaig | Is there a testing plan I could follow ? |
| 13:17.59 | LanceHaig | so I cna make note of what is not working ? |
| 13:18.17 | LanceHaig | or do I just mention it here? |
| 13:18.47 | LanceHaig | is there a recomended version of CE to run? |
| 13:25.18 | dcordes | LanceHaig: it's better to use wm 6.1 on the kaiser because on 6.0 it doesn't boot sometimes |
| 13:26.20 | LanceHaig | do I just need the default 6.1 from the ms site? |
| 13:26.33 | kaze_work | i use hyperdragon 3 on my kaiser, it boots every time |
| 13:26.33 | LanceHaig | or can I get it from xda-dev? |
| 13:26.55 | kaze_work | LanceHaig try yhperdragon II rom |
| 13:26.55 | LanceHaig | kaze_work: do you have alink? |
| 13:27.02 | dcordes | kaze_work: use any 6.1 rom |
| 13:27.20 | kaze_work | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397121 |
| 13:27.24 | kaze_work | try this one |
| 13:27.28 | kaze_work | for me it works |
| 13:27.58 | LanceHaig | I just ran android and when I selected android from the menu it just gave me a chequred screen and nothing else no buttons worked at all |
| 13:28.53 | dcordes | with the zImage.bin kenrel? |
| 13:29.03 | dcordes | s/kenrel/kernel/ |
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| 13:29.47 | LanceHaig | dcordes: yes std default.txt |
| 13:29.51 | LanceHaig | no changes |
| 13:30.16 | LanceHaig | just started it and was looking at the cool buttons and clicked on android at the top |
| 13:30.52 | LanceHaig | I have a 6.1 wm but I will image with the one suggested by kaze_work |
| 13:31.03 | dcordes | I guess only android died |
| 13:31.14 | dcordes | no need |
| 13:31.26 | LanceHaig | oh ok |
| 13:31.51 | LanceHaig | how do you get out of android if it hangs? |
| 13:31.54 | LanceHaig | ony a reset? |
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| 13:55.37 | goxboxlive | Well no doubt about it. I have tried out my new P5Q MB and that either wouldnt boot. So i guess i have to buy a new power. Or couldt it be that the cpu is broken? |
| 13:56.09 | goxboxlive | even though if the cpu is broken the fan should at least start? or?? |
| 13:56.12 | goxboxlive | bbl |
| 14:06.53 | szsoftware | dcordes: up and running? |
| 14:11.20 | dcordes | szsoftware: me? |
| 14:16.12 | kaze_work | sorry if it has been asked earlier but still no 1.0 build for kaiser? |
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| 14:20.15 | szsoftware | dcordes: ah yes |
| 14:20.33 | szsoftware | dcordes: just wrote a PM |
| 14:47.18 | dcordes | kaze_work: there only is one build, the one google provides with the sdl |
| 14:47.23 | dcordes | sdk |
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| 15:37.55 | BabelO_ | ollaaaaa pH5 :) |
| 15:38.38 | pH5 | hej BabelO_ |
| 15:39.53 | pH5 | seems I missed the 2.6.27 merge window for magician/hx4700/blueangel submissions :/ |
| 15:39.57 | pH5 | any news in omap850 land? |
| 15:39.59 | kaze_work | dcordes i mean a root build for kaiser |
| 15:40.05 | kaze_work | only seen the 0.8 around |
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| 15:47.52 | BabelO_ | pH5: no real news |
| 15:48.20 | BabelO_ | pH5: oh yes, yeasturday swetland say us that android g1 kernel will come with sdio wifi driver :) |
| 15:49.00 | pH5 | sweet |
| 15:49.07 | dcordes | pH5: hi |
| 15:49.12 | pH5 | hej dcordes |
| 15:49.18 | dcordes | BabelO_: he didn't mention which kernel version they will base on? |
| 15:49.39 | BabelO_ | dcordes: don't know, that's not a problem |
| 15:55.38 | dcordes | BabelO_: yes I'm just curious which kernel will ship on G1 |
| 15:55.48 | dcordes | therea re so many branches in google git |
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| 16:02.23 | dcordes | bbl |
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| 16:09.24 | SanMehat | dcordes: its based off 2.6.25 |
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| 18:18.01 | goxboxlive | BabelO: how bit powersupply did you buy? And how many hardrives do you have? |
| 18:18.55 | BabelO | goxboxlive: with p5k it is a 500W powersupply and only 2 hardrive, because p5k have only one ide port |
| 18:19.16 | goxboxlive | same as mine |
| 18:19.30 | goxboxlive | i tested on asus page and they reccomended me at least 500W |
| 18:22.24 | BabelO | goxboxlive: so i have no cd or dvd unit :( |
| 18:23.40 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 18:26.12 | dcordes | goxboxlive: I run the p5kc with 400W power supply |
| 18:26.40 | dcordes | goxboxlive: did you try what marajin did suggest. removing everything except of the cpu and powering on? |
| 18:27.32 | goxboxlive | dcordes: i c. In the manual 400W is at least recommneded. But i have a lot of HD so i guess i buy a 6-700W i think. But then i see that the prices for a 1000W isent that much expensive |
| 18:27.58 | goxboxlive | dcordes: yes i did and it was dead (only the green light on the motherboard where working |
| 18:31.28 | dcordes | goxboxlive: it should do the RAM missing alert |
| 18:31.40 | dcordes | goxboxlive: either your mainboard cpu or power supply must be the problem |
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| 18:33.00 | goxboxlive | dcordes: yes . I think it is the power supply. If it's not then i just send back my cpu and ask for a replacement. |
| 18:33.06 | goxboxlive | food, bbl |
| 18:37.26 | SanMehat | lo |
| 18:41.26 | dcordes | SanMehat: so g1 will come with 2.6.25. will we be able to replace the kernel easily? |
| 18:43.40 | SanMehat | dcordes: if you have a developer unit, then yes |
| 18:43.51 | SanMehat | brb |
| 18:45.11 | dcordes | SanMehat: can you replace the kernel in a mass market unit? |
| 18:47.47 | cr2_ | dcordes: it depends on how secure is the qcsbl+oemsbl+amss+... |
| 18:48.29 | dcordes | cr2_: I never heard anything from the google side about that topic so I thought I'd just ask.. |
| 18:52.20 | cr2_ | dcordes: it can be very secure. have you read about the nand/cpu+epoxy in diamond at xda-dev ? |
| 18:52.39 | dcordes | no. is it in the diamond linux thread? |
| 18:58.10 | cr2_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434535 |
| 19:00.05 | dcordes | very nice |
| 19:01.05 | dcordes | is sticking pins with epoxy a common practice to block access to pins? |
| 19:01.12 | dcordes | s/pins/chips/ |
| 19:01.22 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 19:02.46 | dcordes | that looks really nasty on the backside. is it the black stuff? |
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| 19:11.32 | tmzt | dcordes: what would you recommend for a small console-only initrd/initramfs ? |
| 19:14.36 | dcordes | angstrom minimal-image. it can get as small as 6M |
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| 19:19.56 | tmzt | the OE images on your site are for armv6? Angstrom-minimal |
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| 19:33.36 | wasup | zdooder: any news? |
| 19:34.56 | wasup | since the keyboard is working... has anyone updated the titan gpio ( http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Titan_GPIO ) |
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| 20:01.41 | dcordes | tmzt: sorry didn't see that. yes they are armv6 |
| 20:02.21 | tmzt | that explains it |
| 20:03.31 | tmzt | can't execute /sbin/init |
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| 20:20.44 | tmzt | dcordes_: wasn't there a magician om image someshaere? |
| 20:20.51 | tmzt | somewhere |
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| 21:01.44 | exco | tmzt: do you mean that one http://www.linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ by pH5? |
| 21:03.13 | tmzt | exco: I think that's it, need to convert it to an initrd/initramfs though |
| 21:04.07 | exco | sorry - I don't have the knowledge to support you with that task |
| 21:05.14 | tmzt | no, that's not a problem. |
| 21:13.55 | dcordes_ | tmzt: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician I don't know if those are the same |
| 21:14.27 | goxboxlive | no, it's not the same. Thats the images i made. They onl work withthe topoly display |
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| 21:22.50 | hqqh | dcordes: regarding this epoxy thing: http://www.siliconcert.com/decap.htm , i think it is also possible with pcb -> therefore it is no protection if someone would like to extract the schematic :) |
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| 22:00.35 | szsoftware | not too much activity this day :-( |
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| 22:09.07 | marajin | szsoftware: sorry, I got fallout 3 ;) |
| 22:32.37 | szsoftware | marajin: haha. I like those "all here, big party, everything is going forward, problem->idea->fix"-polls in this channel :-) |
| 22:35.26 | NetRipper | Kevin2, you have any clues yet about why the preloader() method isn't called? the flashlight does work directly after the shutdownHardware() (with virtual addresse), but shutdownHardware() does nothing for MSM arch |
| 22:36.04 | NetRipper | Kevin2, or at least, doesn't seem to be called (if you have other idea on how to test it besides me trying to enable flashlight, let me know |
| 22:36.09 | cr2_ | NetRipper: pxa shutdowns dma and usbhost here |
| 22:36.33 | cr2_ | but still works. so it can't be a main problem. |
| 22:36.42 | cr2_ | after all the msm7x00 boots |
| 22:36.53 | NetRipper | cr2_, the shutdownHardware() isn't overridden in the MSM class, and defaults to empty in the Machine class |
| 22:37.39 | cr2_ | it's not nice, but still not fatal on msm7x00 |
| 22:38.01 | NetRipper | but doesn't seem to work on msm7x00A |
| 22:38.05 | cr2_ | of course we would like to shutdown all kinds on dma here. |
| 22:38.30 | NetRipper | yes, if i only knew how :p |
| 22:38.35 | cr2_ | "does not work as" in 'never reached" ? |
| 22:38.38 | NetRipper | yes |
| 22:38.43 | cr2_ | somehow i doubt it. |
| 22:38.44 | NetRipper | it hangs in the trampoline assembler |
| 22:39.00 | cr2_ | tell me what's the difference between 7x00 and 7x00A in haret |
| 22:39.13 | NetRipper | at the very top of the preloader() i added my code to enable flashlight |
| 22:39.30 | NetRipper | the same trick works for my hermes device (using physical addresses) |
| 22:39.38 | NetRipper | but it doesn't do it for raphael (using the raphael phys addresses obviously) |
| 22:39.45 | cr2_ | unless the mmu is off, you should use virtual address |
| 22:39.51 | szsoftware | cr2_: What is to prefer in oe: uclibc or glibc? |
| 22:39.52 | NetRipper | in the preloadeR() the mmu is off |
| 22:40.06 | NetRipper | cr2_, the trampoline turns off the mmu |
| 22:40.07 | cr2_ | then the mmu off code should be checked. |
| 22:40.25 | cr2_ | with what htc does... |
| 22:40.44 | NetRipper | cr2_, it doesn't work with virtual addresses either, but ok, if mmu isn't properly turned off, jumping to the physical address probably wouldn't work either ;) |
| 22:40.49 | cr2_ | hmm. i think htc should disable mmu in the RAPHDIAG.nbh loader |
| 22:40.58 | NetRipper | (as it jumps to the location of preloader()) |
| 22:41.17 | NetRipper | im not familiar with the raphdiag.nbh thing yet |
| 22:41.28 | cr2_ | have you completely removed the uart1 logging (even .asm) from the halibut code ? |
| 22:41.40 | NetRipper | no |
| 22:41.46 | NetRipper | it doesn't even get to load the linux kernel yet |
| 22:41.53 | NetRipper | so no point in doing that |
| 22:41.54 | cr2_ | it loads some signed code into ram, disamble mmu, and jumps there. |
| 22:42.05 | cr2_ | ? |
| 22:42.17 | cr2_ | load the linux kernel where ? |
| 22:42.20 | NetRipper | preloader() is still haret code, not linux kernel |
| 22:42.33 | cr2_ | ok. |
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| 22:42.49 | cr2_ | so we must check the armv6 cp15 magic for 7201A |
| 22:42.55 | cr2_ | to be sure |
| 22:43.05 | BabelO | hello cr2 :) |
| 22:43.05 | NetRipper | it's the place where it reallocates the kernel from various virtual memory addresses to a continues physical memory address |
| 22:43.11 | cr2_ | hmm |
| 22:43.12 | NetRipper | but it doesn't get to do that ;) |
| 22:43.43 | dcordes | szsoftware: did you get your OE problems solved? |
| 22:44.00 | cr2_ | btw, does the msm- code check for mtype after the bootloader ? |
| 22:44.20 | NetRipper | cr2_, not to my knowledge, afaik it does nothing with mtype |
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| 22:44.43 | szsoftware | dcordes: haha, no just this second I made rm -rf <oetmp>. So to say, yeah the problems should be solved ^^ |
| 22:45.02 | NetRipper | cr2_, at least not on lower levels |
| 22:45.40 | szsoftware | dcordes: what do you think is better to use: glibc or uclibc ? |
| 22:46.51 | dcordes | szsoftware: just use glibc |
| 22:47.38 | szsoftware | woglinde in #oe says, uclibc needs very less time for building toolchain and packages. |
| 22:48.11 | BabelO | cr2_: do you have one of your typical map you use with GT ? |
| 22:48.25 | szsoftware | dcordes: and I 'm at the point to decide |
| 22:49.04 | cr2_ | BabelO: didn't use it for a long time. i need to remove 300GB more, so the converted maps are removed as first... |
| 22:49.38 | dcordes | szsoftware: idk never used uclibc for oe builds |
| 22:50.27 | BabelO | cr2_: ok, just need some different sample map scanned... |
| 22:50.58 | szsoftware | dcordes: will try uclibc and talk about what happened :-) |
| 22:52.10 | dcordes | szsoftware: btw, I was thinking about the fbi thing and it came to my mind that marbalon said he once played videos on his kaiser with mplayer |
| 22:52.26 | dcordes | I must email him. it might be revealing about hte X problem |
| 22:52.27 | cr2_ | BabelO: pick something from http://maps.poehali.org/en |
| 22:54.51 | NetRipper | bedtime, good night all |
| 22:54.52 | NetRipper | :) |
| 22:54.54 | szsoftware | dcordes: yeah, according the success I had so far I'm also think about mplayer as a next step. It's a *must have* on a linux system with screen |
| 22:55.37 | cr2_ | szsoftware: lol |
| 22:56.01 | tmzt | does fbi support 5:6:5 16-bit fb? |
| 22:56.39 | szsoftware | tmzt: don't know, had this question not in mind |
| 22:57.39 | BabelO | cr2_: very good :) |
| 23:01.08 | BabelO | cr2_: lol, not sure my ocr can do russian :) |
| 23:01.30 | szsoftware | ok, just started re-run of oe toolchain and stuff. Will use the time for sleeping... |
| 23:01.33 | szsoftware | Night! |
| 23:01.47 | cr2_ | BabelO: lol |
| 23:01.50 | dcordes | good night |
| 23:02.20 | cr2_ | BabelO: btw, if you'll have problems with the projection let me know. |
| 23:02.45 | cr2_ | BabelO: but your software can pick the rivers ? |
| 23:02.49 | dcordes | cr2_: nice website. it's a pity there are no maps for western europe |
| 23:04.13 | cr2_ | dcordes: ? |
| 23:04.35 | cr2_ | dcordes: you mean the 1:50000 maps ? |
| 23:04.52 | BabelO | cr2_: yes i can pick river, i just do a tracking algo this aftertoon for that, just to try :) |
| 23:05.42 | cr2_ | BabelO: i know how to do it with GRASS, but it is certainly not for a typical windows user :) |
| 23:06.04 | dcordes | cr2_: in general. I can't find any |
| 23:06.06 | cr2_ | BabelO: i must have a normalized palette somewhere (8colors) |
| 23:06.25 | BabelO | cr2_: oh, grass already have such thing ? |
| 23:06.48 | cr2_ | dcordes: i've seen a 2km map for Dresden |
| 23:07.04 | cr2_ | dcordes: for NRW there are better maps ;-) |
| 23:07.37 | dcordes | cr2_: I once had a cd for geography lk (top50 nrw) |
| 23:09.26 | cr2_ | BabelO: google for r.thin and r.to.vect |
| 23:10.15 | dcordes | cr2_: do you know http://www.tim-online.nrw.de ? |
| 23:10.27 | cr2_ | dcordes: yes. |
| 23:11.04 | cr2_ | dcordes: poehali.org is just a free resource. |
| 23:11.21 | cr2_ | that's why i suggested BabelO to look there |
| 23:11.45 | dcordes | cr2_: can that data from the lva (e.g. the stuff used in tim-online) be used in local programs? |
| 23:12.07 | dcordes | like qlandkarte |
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| 23:13.33 | cr2_ | dcordes: you can use any raster data. licensing et al. the only question |
| 23:13.47 | cr2_ | dcordes: even the not evil data. |
| 23:15.17 | dcordes | cr2_: do you think the satellite imagery from tim-online can be obtained? |
| 23:15.34 | dcordes | it's very high res |
| 23:16.01 | cr2_ | dcordes: you can use 'xwd', when in doubt ;) |
| 23:16.27 | BabelO | cr2_: ok i take some map, it is ok to play with |
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| 23:18.13 | cr2_ | BabelO: how do you define the alphabet ? |
| 23:18.30 | cr2_ | BabelO: i thought it should not really matter for OCR |
| 23:18.58 | cr2_ | BabelO: didn't find cuneinform on my suse dvd, need to download it and compile. |
| 23:20.10 | dcordes | cr2_: I would like all of it :( |
| 23:21.03 | cr2_ | dcordes: write a program to move the pic, grab, and stitch. |
| 23:23.25 | cr2_ | BabelO: i've picked a map for southern France. russian names look funny, but the map itself looks very good |
| 23:23.29 | dcordes | the grab part would be not hard I think. but how to move the picture? should I click it? |
| 23:23.37 | dcordes | I mean let the program click it. |
| 23:23.54 | cr2_ | BabelO: a nice 8color palette, and the water should be easily separable. |
| 23:24.15 | cr2_ | dcordes: do the arrow keys work ? |
| 23:25.16 | cr2_ | BabelO: the coordinate system looks weird |
| 23:25.27 | dcordes | cr2_: no |
| 23:27.43 | cr2_ | dcordes: LOL |
| 23:28.11 | cr2_ | dcordes: Ebenso kostenfrei ist die Verwendung von TIM-online für die Meldung von Abweichungen zwischen präsentierter digitaler Kartendarstellung und der Ãrtlichkeit |
| 23:28.26 | BabelO | cr2_: alphabet is not defined :) neural network is used, with mathematical properties for each char, so sensibility to font is reduced. |
| 23:29.14 | cr2_ | BabelO: sounds strange, like the marketing speak :) |
| 23:29.31 | dcordes | cr2_: yes I also had to chuckle. very kind of them, no? |
| 23:29.44 | BabelO | cr2_: cuneiform is software from a professional company, it become opensource since few month only and we made test between opensource and professional, they are close, anyway it is better than google ocr or gocr |
| 23:29.49 | tmzt | cr2_: do you know how to convert a hh.org keymap to master? |
| 23:30.11 | BabelO | cr2_: it is even close to abbyy ocr which is the best on actual market |
| 23:31.07 | BabelO | cr2_: not the marketing speak, marketing says, we can read everything in only 1ms per page !!! and dark document too, and all automatically :) |
| 23:31.12 | BabelO | that's marketing |
| 23:31.19 | cr2_ | lol |
| 23:31.30 | cr2_ | tmzt: hh.org keymap ? |
| 23:33.06 | tmzt | to convert it to the new KEY(r,c,KEY_CODE) macros |
| 23:33.33 | cr2_ | tmzt: no idea |
| 23:34.42 | tmzt | static struct pxa27x_keyboard_platform_data htcapache_kbd = { |
| 23:34.43 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.43 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.43 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.43 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.44 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.47 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.52 | tmzt | I see, they are nested arrays |
| 23:35.59 | cr2_ | tmzt: ah, the pxa27x_keyboard. |
| 23:36.12 | cr2_ | tmzt: do you have a pxa270 cpu ? |
| 23:36.21 | tmzt | yes |
| 23:36.30 | tmzt | this is my old keyboard for motoq |
| 23:38.39 | cr2_ | tmzt: afair, i have added the printk into pxa27x_keyboard to see the keycodes |
| 23:39.19 | tmzt | the MK* registers don't reflect what key was pressed? |
| 23:39.37 | tmzt | I have the gpio's for the rows/columns |
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| 23:40.39 | cr2_ | tmzt: it's the matrix controller |
| 23:40.40 | BabelO | good night ::) |
| 23:40.59 | cr2_ | you can see the row/column setup from 'dump gpio' |
| 23:41.25 | BabelO | cr2_: tell me if you have issues with cuneiform, only segmentation can be a problem else if you pass only text if work very well |
| 23:41.29 | BabelO | night |
| 23:41.46 | tmzt | I am just trying to find out how to convert to the kernel.git master, I had it working on hh.org kernel before |
| 23:41.55 | tmzt | I have defines for the GPIOs |
| 23:42.10 | Arilou | Someone know how to install Debian on PDA ? :D :D :D |
| 23:42.39 | tmzt | Arilou: magician? |
| 23:42.46 | Arilou | yeah xD |
| 23:43.03 | tmzt | you could probably follow the Debian_on_Freerunner instructions |
| 23:43.32 | tmzt | you would need to boot an initrd and mount the sd card |
| 23:43.44 | tmzt | and some kind of internet connection, or prefetch packages |
| 23:44.33 | tmzt | cr2_: I think I can just convert the indexes of that array to macro parameters, |
| 23:44.43 | tmzt | I will look into providing the gpio's |
| 23:45.06 | tmzt | I also have the usb detect and sd card detect, but not PUEN or the sd card initialize?? gpio |
| 23:45.18 | Arilou | tmzt i cant find tutorial |
| 23:45.19 | tmzt | so I can only mount the card by removing and reinserting it |
| 23:45.24 | Arilou | the link is broken |
| 23:45.31 | tmzt | debian wiki |
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| 23:52.45 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN0 100 //same as apache |
| 23:52.45 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN1 101 |
| 23:52.45 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN2 102 |
| 23:52.45 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN3 37 |
| 23:52.45 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN4 38 |
| 23:52.47 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN5 90 |
| 23:52.50 | tmzt | #define GPIO_NR_MOTOQ_KP_MKIN6 91 |
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