| 00:00.44 | BruteSource | dcordes Oh and do I just put the linwizard folder at the root of the memory card? |
| 00:01.20 | dcordes | likely. doesn't it have documentation? |
| 00:01.34 | BruteSource | You linked me to an exe? |
| 00:01.41 | dcordes | you might as well put it in internal flash |
| 00:01.46 | BruteSource | You mean the Linwizard docs? |
| 00:02.08 | dcordes | you asked for the linwizard folder. the exe was not linwizard specific |
| 00:02.11 | BruteSource | umm someone said earlier to do it from a mem card? |
| 00:02.25 | dcordes | I will have a look at the linwizard folder |
| 00:03.16 | BruteSource | Hrm.. it started said it wasnt running in system mode and then nothing happened.... |
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| 00:03.53 | dcordes | BruteSource: might be a permission problem |
| 00:04.00 | dcordes | maybe you need to sign haret.exe |
| 00:04.26 | dcordes | wince might not like it because it doesn't know it |
| 00:04.57 | dcordes | BruteSource: I fetched the linwizard tarball. it has a nice README |
| 00:05.45 | BruteSource | I read it.. Like I said lol |
| 00:06.04 | BruteSource | All it says to do is drop it on the card and run |
| 00:06.11 | BruteSource | and free some ram |
| 00:06.20 | BruteSource | It did start and asked for a script file? |
| 00:06.44 | szsoftware | dcordes: just finished making of k 2.6.24. Tomorrow I will try to boot. Good night @ all, good night dcordes, Brutesource. |
| 00:07.07 | dcordes | szsoftware: nice. see you tomorrow |
| 00:07.45 | BruteSource | dcordes ya I think I need to make it run in system mode somehow |
| 00:07.54 | dcordes | BruteSource: ylh |
| 00:08.17 | dcordes | you must put the new haret in the same folder where the other linwizard files reside |
| 00:08.34 | BruteSource | dcordes I did and deleted the old haret exe |
| 00:09.30 | dcordes | it doesn't find the specified script file path which is usualle ./default.txt |
| 00:09.36 | dcordes | so the same folder |
| 00:10.01 | dcordes | I need some sleep now. it's late here |
| 00:10.05 | BruteSource | dcordes huh? I am lost i put it in the linwizard folder with the default.txt? |
| 00:10.14 | dcordes | yes |
| 00:10.15 | dcordes | good night |
| 00:10.17 | BruteSource | dcordes no please help me with this |
| 00:10.25 | BruteSource | I did do that, so whats wrong? |
| 00:10.38 | BruteSource | I don't understand.... |
| 00:11.05 | BruteSource | omfg I wait all day to get on a computer to do this and he goes to bed, awesome. |
| 00:12.41 | BruteSource | Nice people here. |
| 00:15.19 | BruteSource | dcordes Dude please help me man.... |
| 00:17.45 | BruteSource | dmanmHTC are you there? |
| 00:24.00 | dmanmHTC | i am here |
| 00:24.10 | dmanmHTC | kinda |
| 00:24.14 | dmanmHTC | whats goin on |
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| 00:49.22 | BruteSource | dmanmHTC I couldnt get linwizard to run but I think its cause my phone was locked |
| 00:53.59 | edsger | hey guys |
| 00:55.03 | edsger | did anyone get x11 working on hermes device? |
| 00:59.31 | ALoGeNo | nope in hermes now i think that nope |
| 01:03.47 | edsger | im searching for the newest kernel patches |
| 01:03.53 | edsger | any clue? :) |
| 01:04.46 | edsger | only the sd reader dont seems to work, i've heard |
| 01:06.13 | dmanmHTC | are you talking in refrence to the titan or the vogue? |
| 01:07.07 | edsger | no, im talking about the hermes/tytn device |
| 01:08.57 | cr2 | edsger: you can run x11 on hermes, but what's the purpose ? |
| 01:09.29 | cr2 | edsger: well, maybe if the nand will be detected and work properly |
| 01:11.02 | edsger | yeah indd |
| 01:12.26 | edsger | the sdcard problem is not that big of a deal i guess |
| 01:12.46 | edsger | i mean, there is ramfs support |
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| 01:19.00 | cr2 | edsger: you can't do much with 64MB RAM |
| 01:19.14 | cr2 | edsger: it was already painful on sl5500 |
| 01:19.44 | cr2 | edsger: btw, which kernel are you using ? |
| 01:20.36 | edsger | cr2: http://pastebin.com/d6b1c690e |
| 01:21.04 | edsger | ive seen some 24mb angstrong images around.. |
| 01:21.26 | edsger | but that is likely compressed i assume |
| 01:23.47 | cr2 | 2.6.23 ? |
| 01:24.17 | edsger | hh20, thats right |
| 01:24.19 | cr2 | is it the linuxtogo git version with the keyboard support ? |
| 01:24.43 | cr2 | -hh20 is 2.6.21, it does not support the keybaord and has some annoying bugs |
| 01:25.25 | edsger | Linux version 2.6.23-hh20-gd1b1cd8f-dirty (root@servu) |
| 01:25.34 | edsger | that is what dmesg tells me |
| 01:25.46 | edsger | telnet over usb works fine |
| 01:27.43 | cr2 | edsger: where did you get it ? |
| 01:28.27 | edsger | the oconner website |
| 01:28.39 | edsger | in /HTCHermes |
| 01:30.41 | cr2 | ok. so your keyboard works ? |
| 01:31.07 | edsger | when i press a button the output is random.. |
| 01:31.46 | BruteSource | wow the htx rom is so much faster than tmobs |
| 01:31.51 | BruteSource | htc* |
| 01:39.41 | cr2 | edsger: strange. |
| 01:39.59 | cr2 | edsger: it's better to ask Kevin2 about it. |
| 01:40.49 | edsger | okay than :) |
| 01:40.57 | cr2 | but i'm thinking about doing a branch checkout and compile it myself, to get more uart debug info, and maybe check the nand opertaion |
| 01:41.19 | cr2 | if uart will work, then the phone and BT will work |
| 01:41.40 | edsger | angstrong branch looks very interesting |
| 01:45.34 | cr2 | edsger: it's all about the kernel. you can run any userspace software afterwards |
| 01:46.42 | cr2 | Kevin2: i'd like to ask you to update the hermes htc-egpio code, so it matches the current mainline implementation |
| 01:54.27 | edsger | good to be on irc here now, but i'm going to dream about text messaging with mutt on my hermes now |
| 01:54.33 | edsger | ;) |
| 01:55.31 | edsger | nn chan |
| 02:02.52 | cr2 | dcordes: sd dma fix posted on 28sep ? |
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| 02:19.38 | BruteSource | Can anyone help me with linwizard or just haret... please? |
| 02:22.42 | BruteSource | cr2 I got linwizard to boot with haret, but shortly after the first couple lines of txt i get some white garbage at the top of the screen and thats it....? |
| 02:24.34 | BruteSource | dmanmHTC Are you there? |
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| 02:28.29 | BruteSource | tmzt_ you alive? |
| 02:36.24 | BruteSource | :( |
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| 02:48.09 | BruteSource | Ping |
| 02:50.33 | tcccp | ping...what? |
| 02:50.36 | tcccp | -b? |
| 02:50.41 | tcccp | or a certain IP? |
| 02:53.56 | BruteSource | Just seein if anyone was alive |
| 02:54.00 | BruteSource | I need help lol |
| 02:54.30 | tcccp | ah |
| 02:54.36 | tcccp | so a `ping -b` is what you want |
| 02:55.42 | BruteSource | umm sure |
| 03:06.05 | BruteSource | tcccp would you like to help me reconfigure the linwizard kernel to run on my excalibur? |
| 03:06.21 | tcccp | I would if I could |
| 03:06.28 | tcccp | I'm torturing a HP iPaq ;) |
| 03:11.24 | BruteSource | :( I dunno what to do all this crap is being yelled at me like fing screen timings... and debugging.. and all this other stuff i dunno howto do... |
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| 03:23.43 | BruteSource | Is anyone here that would pleasehelp me? |
| 03:26.22 | BruteSource | Can anyone please tell me how I can find the correct screen timings for an excalibur and write them into the kernel please? |
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| 06:18.23 | cousin_luigi | hello |
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| 06:18.28 | cousin_luigi | anyone using synce? |
| 06:26.51 | goxboxlive | cousin_luigi: i did a while ago, but havent tested it for a year now |
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| 06:45.44 | Marajin_ | hmm |
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| 09:28.59 | GPFerror_ | Anyone figure out sd yet on Hermes? |
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| 09:54.32 | goxboxlive | paulproteus: time to update your git tree with Qtopia 4.4 ? |
| 10:15.22 | dcordes | cr2: where? |
| 10:15.32 | dcordes | cr2: (sd dma fix) |
| 10:16.10 | dcordes | cr2: I know barry has the dma fix code from SanMehat but last update was he didn't manage to have it work yet |
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| 10:58.53 | szsoftware | morning |
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| 11:17.28 | BabelO | hi |
| 11:17.59 | szsoftware | hey BabelO |
| 11:20.16 | tsdogs | BabelO: u use 64bit ? |
| 11:20.45 | BabelO | tsdogs: noo 32bit mode, 64 bit use too much specific library |
| 11:20.55 | tsdogs | lol |
| 11:21.21 | BabelO | tsdogs: why ? |
| 11:21.38 | tsdogs | 'cause qt-ext fails to build :( |
| 11:22.14 | BabelO | oh ok, it build well for me i start it on ba, but miss web and gtalk |
| 11:22.40 | tsdogs | well it got to 98% for me :) |
| 11:23.20 | tsdogs | do you alsa get all thoose: Prerequisite failed messages? |
| 11:27.24 | BabelO | i did not check, just take neo configure-* file and build ba |
| 11:29.10 | tsdogs | ok. now I need to see if I'm able to pass -fPIC to the to g++ |
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| 11:32.15 | BabelO | kiozen: what's new ? |
| 11:33.56 | kiozen | BabelO: mask creation, svn up |
| 11:34.03 | BabelO | :) |
| 11:34.16 | kiozen | when selecting a mask it is dumped to mask.png for debugging |
| 11:34.40 | BabelO | ok |
| 11:35.23 | kiozen | now we have a mask with 8bit pixel: 0 = white, 1 = black, 2 = void |
| 11:36.11 | BabelO | perfect |
| 11:37.35 | BabelO | kiozen: algo should need an adaptation then |
| 11:37.50 | kiozen | and the mask width is a multiple of 4, thus we can process the correlation in 32bit steps |
| 11:38.42 | BabelO | kiozen: i ve a mask size of 12x15 |
| 11:42.52 | BabelO | kiozen: so what do you do with void pixel ? :) |
| 11:43.29 | BabelO | matching percent should be altered by that |
| 11:44.33 | kiozen | no, everything below a void does not count, just the real black one |
| 11:44.42 | kiozen | oops.. |
| 11:44.53 | kiozen | ones and white ones |
| 11:45.51 | BabelO | ok i see |
| 11:46.00 | kiozen | if we or the 32bit values we can sum up all "1" and ignore all "2" |
| 11:46.45 | kiozen | that's the idea :) haven't don that yet - and kids: Don't do that at home! |
| 11:46.57 | BabelO | lol |
| 11:47.44 | exco | is anybody here building with OE on Ubuntu 8.10? |
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| 11:49.01 | kiozen | BabelO: the only problem is that I have to go to the cinema soon and we have guests in the evening -> thus if you want to take over, go for it :) |
| 11:49.05 | exco | I can't get it to work http://pastebin.com/d227a637d |
| 11:50.15 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, but i have some things to do this afternoon too, i ll try to look on the evening |
| 11:50.48 | kiozen | I prepare the interface and check in |
| 11:52.23 | BabelO | ok |
| 12:00.12 | tsdogs | exco: gcc 3.4.6 that seems old :/ |
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| 12:10.22 | ssapphiree | hey all |
| 12:10.28 | exco | tsdogs: I don't really understand why it's using 3.4.6 |
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| 12:10.41 | kiozen | BabelO: in case you have a boring evening void CImage::findSymbol(QList<QPoint>& finds, CImage& mask) |
| 12:11.19 | ssapphiree | how much time usually pass from the "initial start" status to something I could try by my own? ) |
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| 12:12.09 | tsdogs | exco: pH5 should be the maintainer of magician, but haven't seen him for a while now. |
| 12:12.20 | tsdogs | ~seen pH5 |
| 12:12.22 | apt | ph5 <n=ph5@p5485EEE9.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #maemo, 34d 23h 14m 19s ago, saying: 'hi, does anybody know if there exists a tango style device icon depicting a nokia n810 somewhere?'. |
| 12:12.56 | tsdogs | maybe it needs updates. |
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| 12:13.12 | tsdogs | ssapphiree: that depends :) |
| 12:13.17 | szsoftware | exco: still around? |
| 12:13.50 | tsdogs | ssapphiree: mainly on where the "start" is :) |
| 12:14.02 | exco | yes, szsoftware |
| 12:14.02 | BabelO | kiozen: ok, already svn up |
| 12:14.26 | szsoftware | exco: just reading your pastebin |
| 12:14.27 | exco | tsdogs: according to http://tinderbox.openembedded.net/packages/gcc-native/ the gcc-native-3.4.6-r9 is the latest - so it isn't old |
| 12:14.38 | szsoftware | exco: also have oe on ubuntu |
| 12:14.50 | szsoftware | exco: hardy |
| 12:15.35 | exco | tsdogs: I haven't seen or heard of pH5 for those 34d either .. nor have I seen him make changes to the projects I know of ... he seems to have disappeared :-) |
| 12:16.14 | exco | szsoftware: I'm currently running 8.10 maybe it isn't working on Ibex yet, but on Hardy I had a working build environment |
| 12:16.14 | tsdogs | hmm ok, maybe someone on #oe is more indicated to check what that error means |
| 12:16.51 | tsdogs | exco: but it looks like the system has some different include file for /usr/include/bits/fcntl2.h |
| 12:17.26 | ssapphiree | tsdogs, :) I'm just thinking, when can I expect something bootable for HTC Touch )) http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTCElf |
| 12:17.50 | exco | thanks, tsdogs (should have seen that one) |
| 12:18.04 | tsdogs | maybe dcordes knows |
| 12:18.13 | tsdogs | the state of the art :) |
| 12:18.26 | szsoftware | tsdogs: yes he's the oe guru here :-) |
| 12:19.04 | tsdogs | hmm actually was talking about the htc elf for ssapphiree |
| 12:19.06 | tsdogs | :) |
| 12:20.03 | BabelO | kiozen: still here ? |
| 12:20.10 | kiozen | yes |
| 12:20.46 | kiozen | BabelO: fast :) |
| 12:20.54 | BabelO | kiozen: oh ok i see how to do imgMask have the symbol reference and main class is the parser |
| 12:20.59 | BabelO | that's ok |
| 12:21.08 | ssapphiree | dcordes? ok, I'll ask him :)) |
| 12:21.18 | exco | tsdogs: seems like there is a known bug in 8.10 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nano/+bug/247692 |
| 12:21.48 | kiozen | BabelO: right, call mask.mask() to get a QImage |
| 12:22.20 | BabelO | ok |
| 12:22.30 | szsoftware | tsdogs: ups, sorry :-) |
| 12:22.36 | BabelO | kiozen: good cinema then :) |
| 12:23.10 | kiozen | well: Wall.E :) a tribute to my son |
| 12:24.01 | BabelO | :) |
| 12:24.56 | szsoftware | exco: so this error is nano related, and this is unfortunately the sample app for oe? |
| 12:25.45 | exco | so if I get that right ... I have to patch /mnt/dev/OE/build/tmp/work/i686-linux/gcc-native-3.4.6-r9/gcc-3.4.6/gcc/collect2.c:1537 similar to what they're doing to files.c ? |
| 12:26.53 | exco | szsoftware: no - I don't think it's nano related - I get the same error building gpe-image (does that include nano?) |
| 12:27.46 | szsoftware | exco: ok, just thought it because the 1st 10 google results say something about nano. |
| 12:28.17 | exco | you might be right szsoftware (just guesswork here) |
| 12:29.10 | tsdogs | exco: then try the patch and add to the bug report if it worked for you :) |
| 12:29.30 | szsoftware | exco: however, regret that I can not help you :-( |
| 12:30.09 | exco | tsdogs: patch files.c as in that bug or collect2.c as in my error? |
| 12:30.50 | tsdogs | I think you need to edit the nano.bb file and add that patch to it |
| 12:31.36 | tsdogs | hmm, but it's not nano related (I mean the error) |
| 12:33.23 | exco | does collect2.c line 1537: redir_handle = open (redir, O_WRONLY | O_TRUNC | O_CREAT); need a third argument, tsdogs? |
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| 12:35.24 | tsdogs | that's the problem, but I think it's an incompatible host version of the host package installed |
| 12:38.02 | tsdogs | the problem is that it's a libc6 incompatibility I think. |
| 12:38.12 | tsdogs | exco: I'd ask in #oe |
| 12:38.21 | exco | thanks, I will |
| 12:39.00 | exco | well I already did, but I will try once there is some activity |
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| 13:16.44 | cr2 | hi |
| 13:16.50 | Marajin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:16.57 | cr2 | booted a vax today |
| 13:17.11 | cr2 | message from user DECNET |
| 13:17.15 | cr2 | that was fun |
| 13:17.40 | Marajin_ | haha :p |
| 13:17.45 | cr2 | but i have forgot the root password, so the fun ended here |
| 13:17.50 | Marajin_ | man you know the local uni still has those running? |
| 13:18.11 | cr2 | set host foobar |
| 13:18.14 | cr2 | and telnet |
| 13:18.20 | cr2 | no ssh afaik :) |
| 13:19.13 | cr2 | i've already thrown away all the book where the standalone boot was described, so i can reset the password |
| 13:19.46 | cr2 | need to create a netbsd boot scsi disk it seems. |
| 13:19.48 | szsoftware | hi cr2 |
| 13:20.07 | cr2 | afair linux-vax is not very advanced |
| 13:20.10 | cr2 | hi szsoftware |
| 13:20.37 | szsoftware | just read about so called femto-cells. someone heard about it? |
| 13:21.27 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: a little bit yeah |
| 13:22.12 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: We have them in the UK I think |
| 13:22.49 | Marajin_ | well I know in fact |
| 13:22.50 | Marajin_ | o2 sell them |
| 13:22.50 | szsoftware | Marajin_: could speed up devel-prozess with devices only accessing over ssh via gprs |
| 13:22.50 | Marajin_ | er I think you misunderstand their purpose? |
| 13:23.29 | ssapphiree | u r from UK? cool! ) |
| 13:23.33 | szsoftware | Marajin_: don't know, they provide your own little gsm/umts in your rooms and are connected to broadband |
| 13:23.38 | ssapphiree | loves UK :)) |
| 13:23.48 | Marajin_ | yeah I'm english |
| 13:24.13 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: Well basically yeah, they are just a way of having your own cell tower in your building |
| 13:24.18 | szsoftware | Marajin_: So you wouldn't need an expensive data contract |
| 13:24.20 | Marajin_ | but we get our cell signals anyway |
| 13:25.08 | cr2 | szsoftware: your own base station ? |
| 13:25.24 | szsoftware | cr2: yes, so I understood this |
| 13:25.28 | Marajin_ | cr2: they're a broadband -> cell access point |
| 13:25.43 | ssapphiree | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femto_cell |
| 13:25.45 | szsoftware | cr2: I guess some gsm cracks have done this already |
| 13:26.01 | Marajin_ | Oh I see, you mean if we were to fiddle around and emulate the network? |
| 13:26.02 | cr2 | hehe |
| 13:26.16 | Marajin_ | yeah that could work |
| 13:26.31 | Marajin_ | ssapphiree: what's so much to love about the UK though? :p |
| 13:27.31 | Marajin_ | ah yeah, I'm right, o2 are trialing them in the UK with a view to commercial rollout early 2009 |
| 13:27.38 | szsoftware | Marajin: The femto-net doesn't cause cost's. You only need the "femto-accesspoint" and a (existing) adsl |
| 13:27.46 | ssapphiree | don't know really )) just love it so much, though I've been there only twice in my childhood )) |
| 13:28.13 | szsoftware | Marajin_: Did you hear of the availability of such devices in the UK? |
| 13:28.29 | Marajin_ | ssapphiree: where are you from then? |
| 13:28.37 | szsoftware | cr2: what do you think/know about that issue? |
| 13:28.47 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: Yeah.. they're trialing them now and they'll be orderable normally in a few months |
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| 13:29.54 | ssapphiree | Marajin_, Russia :) |
| 13:30.02 | Marajin_ | ssapphiree: AH right :p |
| 13:30.57 | szsoftware | Marajin_: ok, in a few months I am in Austria. There is a prepaid data scale of about 20EUR/2GB |
| 13:31.19 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: I pay about 10 euro/unlimited heh.. |
| 13:31.22 | cr2 | szsoftware: which issue ? |
| 13:31.32 | cr2 | Other regulatory issues[11] relate to the requirement in most countries for the operator of a network to be able to show exactly where each base-station is located |
| 13:31.38 | cr2 | lol |
| 13:31.42 | szsoftware | Marajin_: but for now I'm located in germany, and there are almost no cheap data charges |
| 13:31.45 | ALoGeNo | good morning all |
| 13:32.05 | cr2 | the msm arm9 firmware already contains a lot of evil stuff |
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| 13:34.28 | Marajin_ | cr2: they already know where we live, it makes no difference |
| 13:35.09 | szsoftware | cr2: don't understand you. Just asked if it would make sense to have your own little gsm accesspoint and if so, do you know about their availability |
| 13:36.55 | cr2 | Marajin_: lol, that#s true |
| 13:37.42 | Marajin_ | szsoftware: It's just that the laws mean that the government/provider know where you are with the base unit. but they can do that by tracing your cell anyway |
| 13:37.58 | cr2 | szsoftware: i think somebody talked about that in this channel, you should look at the logs |
| 13:38.21 | szsoftware | cr2: ok thanks |
| 13:51.03 | cr2 | szsoftware: do you know where to get the hardspl for raphael ? without this .nyet mumbo-jumbo, just a raw dump. |
| 13:51.21 | cr2 | i'll look then closer wtf is going on there. |
| 14:01.22 | szsoftware | cr2: since I have no raphael, no don't know about hardspl :-( |
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| 14:43.34 | szsoftware | dcordes: around? |
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| 15:22.24 | lastik_ | Anybody! Who know how to fetch these files from git: http://gitweb.openembedded.net/?p=org.openembedded.dev.git;a=tree;f=packages/qtopia-phone;h=181ca79496e0e4442479de977db60c1789ef143d;hb=036412941945c14168f5c318a392b757a41d207f |
| 15:22.57 | ALoGeNo | nope but you can do a git clone |
| 15:24.05 | Miek | click "snapshot" |
| 15:26.14 | lastik_ | ALoGeNo: This foulder doesn't exist then I make a clone: "git clone git://git.openembedded.net/org.openembedded.dev" |
| 15:27.09 | ALoGeNo | what is that you need becose i see qtopia phone in the other link. |
| 15:27.20 | lastik_ | Miek: thank! Its work |
| 15:27.26 | ALoGeNo | you need qtopia stuff? |
| 15:27.39 | ALoGeNo | okey.. sorry.. |
| 15:27.44 | lastik_ | I want try it =) |
| 15:30.15 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_ are you there? |
| 15:30.49 | ALoGeNo | any one knows if titchy xserver and appz maybe run in the 900c? |
| 15:31.09 | ALoGeNo | i think that is for arm not armel. |
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| 16:02.01 | cr2 | dcordes: found a tough question for you ; |
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| 16:33.32 | exco | it is alive |
| 16:33.41 | lastik_ | =)) |
| 16:33.48 | lastik_ | I'm glade for you! |
| 16:33.58 | exco | thanks, lastik_ for helping me out |
| 16:36.03 | lastik_ | mmmm.... my english.... how I should say then somebody thaks me? |
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| 17:16.07 | dcordes | hi |
| 17:16.15 | ALoGeNo | hi |
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| 17:17.47 | lastik_ | hi |
| 17:22.06 | goxboxlive | BabelO: do you run 64bit os? |
| 17:22.27 | BabelO | goxboxlive: no |
| 17:22.33 | goxboxlive | why? |
| 17:23.36 | BabelO | goxboxlive: because you see all issue tsdogs and cr2 have to compile something ? |
| 17:23.53 | goxboxlive | ok i c. So i better stuck with 32bit then |
| 17:24.51 | dcordes | cr2: so what's that question? |
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| 17:33.41 | cr2 | dcordes: scary stuff. |
| 17:33.43 | cr2 | bbl |
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| 17:55.06 | ALoGeNo | hey what kind xserver can i run in the mp900c? |
| 17:55.18 | ALoGeNo | someone knows? |
| 17:59.02 | dcordes_ | back |
| 17:59.08 | dcordes_ | ALoGeNo: likely it will be Xfbdev |
| 17:59.18 | dcordes_ | ALoGeNo: tmzt_ is the person to ask |
| 17:59.28 | ALoGeNo | yeah i know but isnt in the apt repo :/ |
| 17:59.40 | ALoGeNo | yep im waiting for him :) |
| 18:00.08 | dcordes_ | I know he has X working on the mpc... |
| 18:01.20 | ALoGeNo | i have jlime with xserver but i dunno if can use this xserver |
| 18:01.31 | ALoGeNo | with debian i mean |
| 18:03.01 | dcordes_ | isn't jlime a special distro for those devices? |
| 18:03.26 | ALoGeNo | im searching over inet and i find xserver-xfvdev in debian and for arm but i dunno what kind os revision it is.. etech sid or what.. |
| 18:03.55 | ALoGeNo | well etch isnt becose i have it, and that shows xserver-xorg-video-fbdev |
| 18:04.07 | ALoGeNo | but i dunno if it is the same.. |
| 18:11.04 | ali1234 | ALoGeNo: do you have /dev/fb video driver? |
| 18:11.37 | ALoGeNo | nope |
| 18:11.48 | ALoGeNo | i havent xserver right now |
| 18:11.57 | ALoGeNo | im waiting for tmzt_ |
| 18:12.04 | ali1234 | fb driver is part of linux kernel |
| 18:12.23 | ALoGeNo | oh ok the same that use the console you mean? |
| 18:12.28 | ali1234 | yes |
| 18:12.37 | ali1234 | the console doesnt have to use it but it can |
| 18:12.55 | ALoGeNo | if we have that then you saw tux in the boot screen no? |
| 18:13.15 | ali1234 | if you saw tux then you have it |
| 18:13.30 | ALoGeNo | yep i have it |
| 18:13.36 | ali1234 | but not seeing tux doesn't mean you dont have it |
| 18:13.46 | ALoGeNo | hehe okey |
| 18:13.48 | ali1234 | anyway... xfbdev is generic X that uses the same driver |
| 18:14.09 | ALoGeNo | and xephyr? |
| 18:14.34 | ALoGeNo | im searching about kdrive becose i listern something about that. |
| 18:14.56 | ali1234 | xephyr is a x server that runs in a window on another x server. i dont think that would be useful to you |
| 18:15.07 | ALoGeNo | and apt-get show xephyr when you serch kdrive |
| 18:15.17 | ALoGeNo | kk roger |
| 18:15.26 | ALoGeNo | tnx for explanation |
| 18:15.33 | ali1234 | kdrive is a from-scratch written x server designed to be small |
| 18:16.08 | ali1234 | you can probably use debian packages directly if you know what you are doing |
| 18:16.26 | ALoGeNo | hehe, not at all :) |
| 18:17.35 | ali1234 | on the jlime webpage it says you should use the mongo feed. are you doing that? |
| 18:17.54 | ALoGeNo | oh nope.. |
| 18:18.01 | ali1234 | it seems to have a lot of X packages |
| 18:18.21 | ALoGeNo | it is all debian bootstraped, and only using jlime kenerl and modules :) |
| 18:18.49 | ALoGeNo | you mean get the sources? |
| 18:19.03 | ali1234 | did you use debootstrap? |
| 18:19.11 | ALoGeNo | yes sorry |
| 18:19.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i've created a kde3/kde4 mess here, thanks to suse. did you get my e-mail ? |
| 18:19.37 | ali1234 | ah ok then you should have everything you need available from debian repos |
| 18:20.03 | ALoGeNo | yes it is ali1234 |
| 18:20.17 | ALoGeNo | i have the wole debian in the 900c :) |
| 18:20.25 | ALoGeNo | is really cute |
| 18:20.40 | ali1234 | so you probably want package xserver-kdrive-fbdev |
| 18:20.42 | ALoGeNo | and jlime kernel awesome ;) |
| 18:20.58 | ALoGeNo | nice work from this guys :) |
| 18:21.09 | ALoGeNo | kristoffer is a machine |
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| 18:26.16 | ALoGeNo | yeah maybe ali1234, but isnt in the debian repo |
| 18:26.17 | ALoGeNo | :/ |
| 18:27.36 | ali1234 | xserver-kdrive should be |
| 18:27.48 | ali1234 | hmm... |
| 18:29.11 | ALoGeNo | isnt :) |
| 18:29.28 | ALoGeNo | dont worry |
| 18:32.14 | ali1234 | in that case you'll have to install xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-video-fbdev but that will probably be too large |
| 18:38.43 | ALoGeNo | hehe the size not matters.. |
| 18:38.59 | ALoGeNo | i want the most quickly |
| 18:39.20 | ALoGeNo | becose that not have much ram |
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| 18:53.15 | dcordes_ | cr2: back? |
| 18:54.37 | cr2 | yes |
| 18:55.39 | dcordes_ | so what's the scary and the tough thing? |
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| 18:56.38 | dcordes_ | anything amss related? |
| 18:59.11 | cr2 | pre-amss :) |
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| 19:04.11 | dcordes_ | cr2: you gained new insights from the spl? |
| 19:21.44 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes kdeqwert was the only word |
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| 19:37.58 | cr2 | Illigal paging block indicator (%d) |
| 19:39.06 | cr2 | goxboxlive: qtopia 64bit problems are just bugs created by the outsourced trained microsoft monkeys ;-) |
| 19:40.19 | cr2 | dcordes_: it's an interesting problem, who is doing gps data processing on msm. i guess it's the dsp under arm9 control |
| 19:41.47 | dcordes_ | cr2: the under arm9 control part was clear already, no? |
| 19:44.39 | cr2 | ys |
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| 19:58.46 | dcordes_ | cr2: where's the scary part? |
| 20:03.21 | cr2 | a lot of address spaces is used. |
| 20:03.37 | cr2 | there are much more clocks than seen in wince and in spl |
| 20:06.09 | cr2 | linux runs on msm as in a shitty java sandbox |
| 20:06.39 | cr2 | and android adds one more java layer. |
| 20:06.56 | cr2 | it's a DRM paradise machine. |
| 20:07.20 | cr2 | i#m not surprised they so insist on gplv2-only |
| 20:10.14 | cr2 | maybe i'd return to the trusty blueangel. where we have the datasheets :) |
| 20:10.22 | dcordes_ | ok that's good news you fund this out |
| 20:10.32 | dcordes_ | s/fund/found/ |
| 20:11.42 | dcordes_ | ah right go back to blueangel and let all the msm users burn in hell? |
| 20:12.03 | dcordes_ | doesn't sound like an option |
| 20:12.35 | cr2 | no, just a sensible risk accessement |
| 20:13.32 | cr2 | btw, we can override several nasty things |
| 20:13.46 | dcordes_ | can you name them? |
| 20:14.00 | cr2 | and simply ignore some other requests from arm9 |
| 20:14.28 | cr2 | well, i don't like that so many areas are "DEX'd" |
| 20:14.29 | dcordes_ | it would be very nice to map/document those things and make them publicly available |
| 20:14.48 | cr2 | certain things are just not the arm9 business |
| 20:17.39 | cr2 | another interesting question is if the microkernel can be patched (sha/rsa there?) |
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| 20:18.53 | cr2 | actually, i'm interested to boot at least something on 7201A. |
| 20:18.53 | dcordes_ | cr2: what's the situation about testing different microkernels? I assume it's not impossible? |
| 20:18.56 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: evening |
| 20:19.07 | cr2 | it will be already a step forward. |
| 20:19.14 | szsoftware | hi at all |
| 20:19.34 | dcordes_ | cr2: I can always lend you the kaiser if you want a 'working' msm device |
| 20:19.35 | cr2 | dcordes_: the microkernel can be reflashed, htc provides this opportunity. |
| 20:19.35 | szsoftware | just trying irssi :-) |
| 20:19.50 | cr2 | but it may be signed, and that will be tough. |
| 20:19.55 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: on the polaris? |
| 20:20.10 | szsoftware | firstly will read the logs until current discussion... |
| 20:20.19 | dcordes_ | cr2: doesn't viperbjk allow insight to the signing processes? |
| 20:20.36 | szsoftware | dcordes_: unfortunately not |
| 20:20.53 | cr2 | but since the xda-dev people somehow manage to mess in that area, it may be possoble |
| 20:21.00 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: pity that we have no blueooth yet |
| 20:21.04 | szsoftware | dcordes_: even though I built and bootet the kernel :-) |
| 20:21.15 | cr2 | dcordes_: i didn't find his analyzer at code.google ? |
| 20:21.24 | szsoftware | dcordes_: its because of the lack of a cheap data charge |
| 20:21.35 | szsoftware | dcordes_: you say it |
| 20:21.41 | dcordes_ | cr2: my last attempt getting the program also ended with no result. I found a wiki. before it was obtainable via code.google.com |
| 20:22.18 | dcordes_ | szsoftware: yea you left me in suspend w/o mentioning if you could boot yesterday |
| 20:23.09 | cr2 | dcordes_: i'd suggest to address the simple problems first |
| 20:23.25 | cr2 | szsoftware: do you have the gpio list for polaris ? |
| 20:23.37 | szsoftware | dcordes_: I was to tired waiting for the build. But this morning it booted succcesfully. |
| 20:23.45 | cr2 | szsoftware: is there a cpld on polaris ? |
| 20:23.48 | szsoftware | cr2: I did'nt looked for it |
| 20:23.49 | dcordes_ | cr2: nothing but the one in xda wiki where you put in fn led ^^ |
| 20:23.59 | cr2 | me ? |
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| 20:24.10 | dcordes_ | I think so |
| 20:24.16 | szsoftware | cr2: as dcordes_ mentioned polaris and kaiser are almost the same |
| 20:24.27 | dcordes_ | cr2: I confused it with titan |
| 20:24.50 | dcordes_ | need to flip some steaks, brb |
| 20:24.55 | cr2 | dcordes_: there is no polaris*gpio page |
| 20:24.57 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:25.47 | szsoftware | dcordes_: shall I just copy the kaiser wiki gpio stuff w/o keyboard related? |
| 20:25.53 | cr2 | lol |
| 20:26.02 | cr2 | "TomTom cannot find maps Solution: switch off BT ftp" |
| 20:26.35 | cr2 | szsoftware: they may have reshuffled the gpios. |
| 20:27.00 | szsoftware | cr2: do I have to gather them with haret? |
| 20:28.10 | cr2 | szsoftware: dump the spl, and run 'strings' first |
| 20:28.40 | szsoftware | cr2: you'r kidding me? |
| 20:29.46 | szsoftware | cr2: maybe I am confused now but the last two days we talked about rom dump |
| 20:30.00 | szsoftware | cr2: and the contraints |
| 20:30.51 | cr2 | spl dump is much easier. rom dump is important for the nand driver only |
| 20:32.43 | szsoftware | cr2: ok thanks for clearing that. any hint for dumping spl is appreciated |
| 20:37.27 | cr2 | pwf polaris-spl 0x0 0x40000 |
| 20:37.31 | cr2 | in haret |
| 20:37.36 | cr2 | hm |
| 20:37.43 | cr2 | pwf polaris-spl 0x0 0x100000 |
| 20:37.46 | cr2 | is better |
| 20:39.46 | szsoftware | cr2: Oh thanks I didn't thought of haret. Will read the docs with a closer look. But thank you for that hint |
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| 20:52.52 | imfloflo | hey guys what is the progress on linux on polaris ? always 0.8 android SDK |
| 20:55.19 | dcordes_ | imfloflo: linux on polaris is not android on polaris |
| 21:00.06 | dcordes_ | imfloflo: does msm_nand initialize well? |
| 21:00.16 | dcordes_ | that was for szsoftware, sorry |
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| 21:05.04 | cr2 | wee. switching the brain on helps :) |
| 21:06.18 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: msm_nand looked like your output, but I had no time for a closer look |
| 21:06.53 | dcordes_ | cr2: ? |
| 21:07.07 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: ok was just wondering if it showed any differences |
| 21:08.13 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: the one and only difference I know is, that we have different nand chips. |
| 21:08.37 | cr2 | dcordes_: the load address is still unknown to me, so the non-pic code is a bit broken |
| 21:09.35 | szsoftwa1e | cr2, dcordes_ : ~$ strings polaris.spl.dump http://pastebin.com/m17183232 |
| 21:10.29 | szsoftwa1e | uh, now I see possible bootloader commands :-) |
| 21:12.19 | dcordes_ | 2.20.OliNex |
| 21:14.25 | dcordes_ | cr2: what's # |
| 21:14.28 | dcordes_ | NO user storage |
| 21:14.29 | dcordes_ | ? |
| 21:15.16 | szsoftwa1e | cr2: where are the gpios? |
| 21:16.07 | szsoftwa1e | btw. how can I kick my other user, I'm feeling a bit schizophren |
| 21:16.59 | olesis | nickserv ghost |
| 21:17.16 | szsoftwa1e | olesis: ? |
| 21:19.02 | cr2 | szsoftwa1e: hm. it seems you have the cpld |
| 21:19.53 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: is this the same on kaiser? |
| 21:19.54 | dcordes_ | cr2: polaris gpios work fine in the htc-linux branch |
| 21:20.02 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: yes |
| 21:20.29 | dcordes_ | I guess except of the input related things most stuff does match |
| 21:20.44 | szsoftwa1e | what does the bootloader command "blockread" do? Any syntax known? |
| 21:21.04 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: that was my information to |
| 21:21.12 | szsoftwa1e | s/to/too |
| 21:22.13 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: what did olesis mean? |
| 21:22.38 | dcordes_ | the polaris input things are in board-htcpolaris.c |
| 21:23.38 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: don't know |
| 21:23.38 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: ok |
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| 21:26.59 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: with the own built kernel after a line "configuring 10-base-bg-en" or so (need better glasses), the polaris does a soft reset |
| 21:27.24 | dcordes_ | my kaiser does never soft reset automatically in linux |
| 21:27.43 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: I boot with no initrd but with tgrees root fs. |
| 21:28.45 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: when there is written something about "starting udhcpd" then I'm already in the rootfs, so the mmcblk-boot seems to be ok so far? |
| 21:29.06 | cr2 | dcordes_: do you have wince 'dmesg' ? |
| 21:29.31 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: wince 'dmesg'? |
| 21:30.03 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: yes. at lest it does mount. maybe your kernel dies because of SD though (might be something else) and you have a watchdog on the arm9 side that causes the softreset |
| 21:30.55 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: I would be glad having a dmesg available, what did you mean with wince dmesg? |
| 21:31.02 | dcordes_ | it's even likely to be an sd problem because some people tried builds for the polaris from this tree you use. those builds had no nand. so nand might be the problem as well |
| 21:31.39 | dcordes_ | cr2: I think we dumped that on my kaiser in the past |
| 21:31.52 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: since I am able to build my own kernel it will be no prob to sort that out |
| 21:33.01 | szsoftwa1e | cr2: oh, you said about that dmesg. Can you please explain wince dmesg? |
| 21:33.05 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: try with the exact kernel image again but boot some initrd, move some data in the ram. then mount the sd and see if you can reconstruct the softreset |
| 21:33.31 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: did you try to boot from sd severals times? |
| 21:33.59 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: oh, I remember, with the angstrom-initrd it bootet and was ok. |
| 21:34.22 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: two or three times |
| 21:35.04 | szsoftwa1e | cr2: I misdirected my wince dmesg curiousity to dcordes_ |
| 21:36.35 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: ok then try mounting the sd in the initrd and see if you can cause the softreset by moving data on the sd card |
| 21:36.44 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: it's too terribly doing things with that fb keyboard. sometimes I even cannot recognize what is written on the display |
| 21:37.06 | dcordes_ | oh the fb keyboard works with your kernel build? |
| 21:37.27 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: how to active special chars or symbols on the fb keyboard. |
| 21:37.37 | dcordes_ | other people told me the device would freeze when they press the camera button |
| 21:37.41 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: as you said, with 2.6.24 it should work |
| 21:37.58 | dcordes_ | ah sorry I thought you were in the tree from the tarball |
| 21:38.00 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: my build is a better one ;-) |
| 21:38.19 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: hum, unfortunately not |
| 21:38.50 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: I had have screaming "it works" to you! |
| 21:40.12 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: or the all mighty "Heureka", but that is, we are all waiting for. Isn't it? |
| 21:40.12 | dcordes_ | now I recall.. we said you should use the git code because it has the working on screen keyboard and it was only to try the nand |
| 21:40.15 | szsoftwa1e | :-) |
| 21:40.27 | dcordes_ | so did you put the .25 nand? |
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| 21:41.15 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: if we can get the most recent framebuffer code into the .25 htc-msm branch, on screen keyboard will work there as well |
| 21:41.19 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: ah ok, I wasn't so quick to fiddle that in. No, I "activated" the 2.6.24 nand stuff in menuconfig |
| 21:42.38 | dcordes_ | did you compare with msm_defconfig settings? |
| 21:43.38 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: but what about the kb usage? When I press the alt-key once, I would expect to have written the symbol, not the letter of a key. |
| 21:44.22 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: I don't know. never used the osk on kaiser. you can ask dzo or other vogue/polaris users |
| 21:44.25 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: I only did "htcpolaris_defconfig" then "make menuconfig" and chose mtd support and so |
| 21:44.37 | dcordes_ | it was originally written by dzo for the vogue |
| 21:45.13 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: hmm he's not around |
| 21:45.20 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: ok. I did simply copy the mtd/nand bits manually from the msm_defconfig with an editor |
| 21:45.40 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: btw, the irssi's tab-completion is really cool |
| 21:47.34 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: next I want to examine/modify initrds. Are they everytimes cpio images? |
| 21:48.58 | dcordes_ | dcordes_: the ones I have used for kaiser so far were always gzipped cpio images |
| 21:49.12 | dcordes_ | lol |
| 21:49.28 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: my goal is a booting autoscript, that writes debugging info like dmesg or so to sd. |
| 21:49.41 | dcordes_ | I need some sleep |
| 21:49.50 | szsoftwa1e | szsoftwa1e: do you also feel schizo sometimes? |
| 21:49.53 | szsoftwa1e | szsoftwa1e: yeah |
| 21:50.10 | dcordes_ | hehehe |
| 21:50.12 | szsoftwa1e | :-) |
| 21:51.10 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: nevermind, I think "file" can me give the info. |
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| 21:52.08 | dcordes_ | debugging info like dmesg or so? |
| 21:52.38 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: what prevents us using dzo's 1.0 android image? Kernel specific dependencies? |
| 21:52.58 | dcordes_ | no |
| 21:53.10 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: since I have no ssh access I want to have easier debugging possibilities. |
| 21:53.12 | dcordes_ | you can make an intird from it if you need it |
| 21:54.02 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: for now I m not strongly interested in Android, just curious |
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| 21:54.32 | szsoftwa1e | but it will help me to understand how to make/modifiy initrd stuff |
| 21:55.12 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: it is exactly the same as other root filesystems, just cpio packed and gzipped afterwards |
| 21:55.20 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: whats your way to make an initrd (outside oe)? |
| 21:55.48 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: ok |
| 21:56.44 | dcordes_ | find ./ | cpio -H newc -o | gzip > lol.cpio.gz |
| 21:56.48 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: what is in initrd, what the kernel needs to boot if we have rootfs on sd? The sd driver itself? |
| 21:57.03 | dcordes_ | inside of the desired kernel / |
| 21:57.37 | dcordes_ | sorry, don't get the question |
| 21:57.38 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: oh thanks, I should think more in pipes |
| 21:58.27 | tmzt_ | dcordes_: (cd initfs; find .) | cpio -H newc -o |gzip > initfs.img |
| 21:58.36 | tmzt_ | dcordes_: puts it in the current directory |
| 21:58.46 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: for what reason we need initrd, execpt rootfs? |
| 21:58.57 | tmzt_ | wait, I'll have to look that up again |
| 21:59.27 | tmzt_ | (cd initfs; find . |cpio -H newc -o |gzip -c) > initfs.img |
| 21:59.36 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: maybe its time for me to have a closer look to LFS (linux from scratch) |
| 21:59.48 | dcordes_ | I'm not even in command of simple bash operations |
| 22:00.26 | dcordes_ | szsoftwa1e: we need it if we have no other way of putting data. (like nand, sd, etc.) |
| 22:00.46 | dcordes_ | but that's not the real purpse of an initial ramdisk |
| 22:01.33 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: I don't understand this point. I know the purpose of initramfs on non embedded machines. |
| 22:02.14 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: its only for kernel boot stuff that is not build in kernel and other things like bootsplash or so |
| 22:02.33 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: in our context we need it for rootfs too. |
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| 22:03.22 | dcordes_ | you can't do so much with the bare kernel. I messed around a lot with the smem and so from the ramdisk. we don't have the sd driver working on polaris/kaiser for so long |
| 22:03.30 | Brutesource | whats going on? |
| 22:03.32 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: but 1. afaik we have all drivers (even sd) built in kernel (not as a module) and 2. for rootfs we have a (buggy) sd driver |
| 22:04.07 | tmzt_ | is rootdelay still needed/used? |
| 22:04.45 | szsoftwa1e | dcordes_: but only for booting we almost need read access for sd. Is even that a problem for the buggy sd driver? |
| 22:05.45 | Brutesource | anyone have time to help me get my screen timings and keymaps working for linwizard? |
| 22:06.19 | Brutesource | there channel isnt very helpful lol |
| 22:06.42 | tmzt_ | do you have dumpkey? |
| 22:06.52 | tmzt_ | showkey |
| 22:07.03 | Brutesource | me? |
| 22:07.08 | tmzt_ | yes, |
| 22:07.21 | tmzt_ | first, did you get that link about windows usb networking? |
| 22:07.26 | Brutesource | no im afraid i dont even know what that means |
| 22:07.56 | szsoftwa1e | cr2: still around? |
| 22:08.05 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-devlopers.com/showpost.php?p2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:08.15 | Brutesource | well i will get on my pc and look at it if your willing to help me. |
| 22:08.21 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-devlopers.com/showpost.php?p=2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:08.35 | tmzt_ | what do you mean by screen timings? |
| 22:09.38 | Brutesource | well when i boot the kernel im getting just white garbage i think its because its configured for a wizard not an excalibur |
| 22:09.51 | Brutesource | brb ill get on my pc |
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| 22:11.40 | BruteForcepc | Okay may I have that link again |
| 22:12.53 | BruteForcepc | tmzt_ I am thinking the refresh rate is wrong cause its for the wizrd so i think I need to find the proper rtes and try them? |
| 22:13.09 | BruteForcepc | The ones for the excalibur |
| 22:13.46 | tmzt_ | probably different lcds, have to ask cr2 |
| 22:14.01 | BruteForcepc | cr2 Any suggestions? |
| 22:14.18 | BruteForcepc | But lemme get ssh working whats that link again plz? |
| 22:14.25 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-devlopers.com/showpost.php?p=2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:14.41 | tmzt_ | that is the explaination, the drivers are somewhere, hold on |
| 22:14.48 | BruteForcepc | Thank you |
| 22:15.57 | BruteForcepc | tmzt_ umm that just takes me to some spam page? |
| 22:16.03 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2162449&postcount=32 |
| 22:16.15 | tmzt_ | you have to register with xda-developers |
| 22:16.20 | tmzt_ | to download |
| 22:16.31 | tmzt_ | you can search for belacarra_usb otherwise |
| 22:16.50 | tmzt_ | belcarra_usblan.zip |
| 22:17.21 | BruteForcepc | But that explanation page.. i think the url is wrong? |
| 22:18.50 | dcordes_ | cr2: did you find kaiser wince dmesg or want me to make a new one? |
| 22:19.25 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:19.30 | BruteForcepc | oo that sounds like it would give me alotta needed info a dmeg that runs on wince? |
| 22:21.16 | BruteForcepc | dmesg* |
| 22:21.57 | tmzt_ | BruteForcepc: can you get network working? |
| 22:22.36 | tmzt_ | video is only white screen, no text at all? |
| 22:23.53 | BruteForcepc | Its black with white garbage lines at the top |
| 22:24.24 | tmzt_ | can you try booting with the ac adapter plugged in? |
| 22:24.25 | BruteForcepc | I am trying to figure howto get the usb ssh goin now, I am currently signing up for the forums |
| 22:24.44 | BruteForcepc | tmzt_ sure I will go grab it |
| 22:25.54 | tmzt_ | so you can read the bootup messages? |
| 22:26.44 | BruteForcepc | Weird yesterday Haret was not working so I flashed to the HTC wm6 and then it worked, but I am trying haret now and its just freezing... |
| 22:26.57 | tmzt_ | try soft resetting first |
| 22:27.26 | BruteForcepc | well its frozen.. so I will have to har reset |
| 22:27.33 | BruteForcepc | hard |
| 22:27.41 | szsoftwa1e | BruteForcepc: which wm6 or wm6.1? |
| 22:27.56 | BruteForcepc | 6.1 I think |
| 22:28.14 | BruteForcepc | Some guy on the forums made it |
| 22:28.37 | BruteForcepc | kavalya or something? |
| 22:28.57 | szsoftwa1e | BruteForcepc: you think or you know? On other devices (but msm), haret works perfectly with 6.1 but with 6 it's a mess |
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| 22:29.24 | BruteForcepc | Yes its 6.1 |
| 22:29.51 | BruteForcepc | but after a hard reset it says 21.44 M is already used in the task manager |
| 22:30.02 | BruteForcepc | It wasnt like that before, maybe this is the prob |
| 22:30.05 | szsoftwa1e | BruteForcepc: but I only can confirm this for htc polaris/kaiser |
| 22:30.49 | tmzt_ | this is omap |
| 22:31.02 | BruteForcepc | aww I bet its cause omap clock is running is overclocking |
| 22:31.12 | tmzt_ | can you disable phone and try again |
| 22:32.18 | tmzt_ | tmo was probably slow because of the home screen, tzones or oma or something |
| 22:32.19 | BruteForcepc | Now its booting |
| 22:32.38 | szsoftwa1e | ok, today I'm in the middel of a big forrest and for now I can't so much. Will get some sleep. |
| 22:32.47 | BruteForcepc | Ya I get the first few messages very fast then goes to screen with garbage at top |
| 22:32.51 | szsoftwa1e | Good Night! |
| 22:32.55 | BruteForcepc | Night |
| 22:33.06 | tmzt_ | how many lines are corrupted? |
| 22:33.16 | BruteForcepc | Two small to tell |
| 22:33.23 | BruteForcepc | too |
| 22:33.44 | BruteForcepc | It almost looks like very very tiny font like -400pt |
| 22:33.57 | BruteForcepc | I am sure its the wrong lcd... |
| 22:34.02 | tmzt_ | can you read the messages |
| 22:34.20 | BruteForcepc | lol now its not legble |
| 22:34.32 | BruteForcepc | no* |
| 22:34.39 | BruteForcepc | God, I can not type today. |
| 22:35.06 | BruteForcepc | Its just tiny white pexles randomly scattered along the top of the screen... |
| 22:35.16 | BruteForcepc | Pixles* grr wtf. |
| 22:35.24 | tmzt_ | so its not just corruption at the top, and the rest is fine |
| 22:35.34 | tmzt_ | is the rest of the screen black? |
| 22:35.39 | BruteForcepc | Yes |
| 22:36.03 | BruteForcepc | Phone is completely non resposive to any key input including power |
| 22:36.27 | tmzt_ | cr2: do you know why lcd on omap would be corrupt, but not all white or black? |
| 22:36.52 | BruteForcepc | The Linwizard guy was saying something about screen timings.. |
| 22:37.00 | BruteForcepc | But he was really rude. |
| 22:38.10 | tmzt_ | there aren't many people in there right now |
| 22:38.28 | BruteForcepc | I am not going back there. |
| 22:38.44 | BruteForcepc | lol plus I think he even banned me for some bs reason. |
| 22:39.15 | BruteForcepc | Was telling me they are to busy working on the project specifically for the wizard to help me with getting it going on my excalibur. |
| 22:39.58 | tmzt_ | sadly, it's the form factor of the excalibur that makes it worth pursuing, the same can't be said for wizard |
| 22:40.53 | BruteForcepc | lol slive vs open face? |
| 22:40.56 | BruteForcepc | slide |
| 22:41.05 | BruteForcepc | and the wizard is touchscreen... |
| 22:41.08 | tmzt_ | more size |
| 22:41.29 | tmzt_ | what I mean is there are some many slide qwerty htc's with better processor/ram |
| 22:41.48 | BruteSource | Yes well this is my device and I am determined lol. |
| 22:41.56 | tmzt_ | but no small handheld qwertys |
| 22:42.08 | BruteSource | What is the link for the ssh usb driver in the forums.. I cant find it. |
| 22:42.25 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2162449&postcount=32 |
| 22:42.33 | tmzt_ | at the bottom of that post |
| 22:43.30 | tmzt_ | you said this was not your pc, would you be able to use something like colinux? |
| 22:46.38 | BruteSource | Well its my sister... |
| 22:46.49 | BruteSource | Do I need to? |
| 22:47.09 | tmzt_ | you will probably need to build a kernel to fix omapfb |
| 22:47.17 | BruteSource | I followed the instructions in the readme but still have no clue howto ssh in... |
| 22:47.35 | tmzt_ | did it detect the driver? |
| 22:48.00 | BruteSource | Well lets go one step at a time, lol I have no clue howto compile a kernel anyways... I will have to beg someone to do it for me lol. |
| 22:48.11 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:48.26 | tmzt_ | compiling the kernel is pretty easy if you have the right environment |
| 22:48.55 | BruteSource | Y and I dont and probably wont unless I download a live ced and then get a build enviroment going lol... |
| 22:48.58 | tmzt_ | compared to building applications in a crossdev like OE or gentoo |
| 22:49.01 | BruteSource | y/Ya |
| 22:49.26 | BruteSource | Well The new Hardware Wizard popped up so I guess it didnt detect the driver? |
| 22:49.42 | BruteSource | Should I point it at the folder? |
| 22:50.03 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 22:50.34 | BruteSource | K its installing the driver |
| 22:51.12 | BruteSource | Since you have a proper enviroment and your more experienced do you think you might be able to help me as a favor, Please? |
| 22:51.30 | BruteSource | Okay its done, now I need putty? |
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| 22:52.09 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 22:52.16 | BruteSource | wow it made a new net connection |
| 22:52.20 | BruteSource | new |
| 22:52.28 | BruteSource | Yes you will compile a kernel for me? |
| 22:52.31 | BruteSource | *Grin* |
| 22:53.59 | BruteSource | tmzt_ What IP address? |
| 22:54.18 | BruteSource | Also I am getting limited or no connectivity on the network connection... |
| 22:54.42 | tmzt_ | you didn't assign an ip address |
| 22:55.01 | tmzt_ | that post has the information to match linwizard configs |
| 22:55.27 | BruteSource | That post had two lines and a link to the file? |
| 22:55.35 | tmzt_ | do you have a usb harddrive, or flash memory with more than 2gb? |
| 22:55.45 | tmzt_ | the postcount=66 post |
| 22:56.01 | tmzt_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2577273&postcount=66 |
| 22:56.24 | BruteSource | umm a psp with a 4 gig memcard |
| 22:56.32 | tmzt_ | and usb? |
| 22:56.57 | tmzt_ | you have games/movies on there? |
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| 23:00.04 | BrteSrc | That was weird |
| 23:01.55 | BrteSrc | I just changed the tcp/ip settings to a manual address of what the page said. is that what I was supposed to do? |
| 23:05.58 | BrteSrc | tmzt_ I dunno what I am doing wrong here... |
| 23:06.25 | tmzt_ | yes. |
| 23:06.49 | tmzt_ | I have no way of knowing if the network is up on linwizard though |
| 23:07.11 | BrteSrc | I gave it the 10 100 0 2 ip and 255 255 sub |
| 23:07.26 | BrteSrc | it says connected |
| 23:07.43 | tmzt_ | can you ping/ssh 10.100.0.1 ? |
| 23:08.34 | BrteSrc | not 2? |
| 23:09.02 | BrteSrc | Yes .1 gives me a response |
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| 23:09.38 | BrteSrc | but putty wont connect |
| 23:09.51 | BrteSrc | am I supposed to be trying port 22? |
| 23:11.53 | BrteSrc | tmzt_ or telnet? |
| 23:12.56 | tmzt_ | it says ssh |
| 23:13.02 | BrteSrc | Oh I was supposed to do 23 lol |
| 23:13.13 | BrteSrc | well I tried 23 (telnet) and it worked I am in |
| 23:13.17 | tmzt_ | if ping works and ssh does not, try telnet on 23 |
| 23:13.20 | tmzt_ | ok |
| 23:14.12 | tmzt_ | let's try something basic, then. |
| 23:14.21 | tmzt_ | dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/fb0 |
| 23:16.04 | BrteSrc | no space left on device, 305+0 records in 304+0 records out |
| 23:16.17 | tmzt_ | ok, what does the screen look like? |
| 23:16.27 | BrteSrc | The same |
| 23:17.12 | tmzt_ | the screen on your dash, is still compressed text at the top? |
| 23:17.21 | BruteSource | Yes its the same |
| 23:17.47 | tmzt_ | cat /proc/fb |
| 23:18.12 | BruteSource | 0 omapfb |
| 23:18.30 | tmzt_ | dmesg |grep omap |
| 23:19.21 | BruteSource | lol like 25 lines... |
| 23:19.23 | tmzt_ | paste that at pastebin.no |
| 23:19.26 | BruteSource | k |
| 23:20.10 | *** join/#htc-linux troy_ (n=troy@140.sub-70-192-110.myvzw.com) |
| 23:20.17 | BruteSource | http://pastebin.com/m61f897bf |
| 23:23.36 | BruteSource | Did you see it? |
| 23:23.37 | tmzt_ | ah, get rid of the video=omap:accel in default.txt/startup.txt and boot again |
| 23:23.57 | BruteSource | k brb and thank you for doing all this |
| 23:24.02 | tmzt_ | paste the full dmesg first |
| 23:24.05 | tmzt_ | if you can |
| 23:24.47 | BruteSource | http://pastebin.com/m28aea481 |
| 23:25.18 | BruteSource | So halt linux... boot wince back up kill that line reboot it? |
| 23:25.20 | tmzt_ | copy the 'set cmdline' line and put a # in front of the old one |
| 23:25.29 | tmzt_ | yes, reboot |
| 23:25.33 | tmzt_ | or pull the battery |
| 23:25.43 | BruteSource | ya halt does nothing lol |
| 23:27.31 | BruteSource | copy the set cmdline what ya mean? |
| 23:28.38 | tmzt_ | the line that begins "set cmdline", make a copy and paste it below |
| 23:28.54 | tmzt_ | put a # in front of the old one |
| 23:29.04 | tmzt_ | make your change to the new one |
| 23:30.13 | BruteSource | That doesnt make sense to me? |
| 23:30.32 | BruteSource | oh backup the line and comment it out? |
| 23:30.53 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 23:31.06 | BruteSource | then delete the video part? |
| 23:31.09 | tmzt_ | so we can't put the old one back if we need to |
| 23:31.12 | tmzt_ | yes |
| 23:31.57 | tmzt_ | so we can put the old one back if we need to |
| 23:33.29 | BruteSource | same thing :( |
| 23:34.00 | BruteSource | dots start to go acreoss the screen halfway across its makes the garbage |
| 23:34.13 | BruteSource | across |
| 23:34.18 | tmzt_ | so it is filled top to bottom now? |
| 23:34.28 | BruteSource | nope same exact thing |
| 23:34.34 | tmzt_ | ok |
| 23:36.59 | BruteSource | damn of course it couldnt be an easy fix lol |
| 23:38.15 | BruteSource | and I am running outta comp time |
| 23:38.56 | tmzt_ | can you login? |
| 23:39.02 | BruteSource | I am in now |
| 23:39.11 | tmzt_ | fbset |
| 23:39.35 | tmzt_ | also dmesg |grep omap again |
| 23:39.54 | tmzt_ | ls /sys/module/omapfb/parameters/ |
| 23:40.04 | tmzt_ | might not exist though |
| 23:40.20 | BruteSource | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.20 | BruteSource | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.20 | BruteSource | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.21 | BruteSource | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.21 | BruteSource | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:40.28 | BruteSource | shit |
| 23:42.36 | BruteSource | http://pastebin.com/m41b3c17c |
| 23:43.05 | BruteSource | How do you paste to putty? |
| 23:43.17 | tmzt_ | alt right click |
| 23:43.37 | BruteSource | accel mirror vram vyres |
| 23:43.37 | BruteSource | manual_update rotate vxres |
| 23:44.04 | tmzt_ | cat /sys/module/omapfb/parameters/rotate |
| 23:44.25 | BruteSource | 0 |
| 23:44.59 | tmzt_ | ls /sys/class/graphics/ |
| 23:45.38 | BruteSource | fb0 fbcon |
| 23:46.37 | tmzt_ | cat /sys/class/graphics/fbcon/rotate |
| 23:46.54 | BruteSource | 0 |
| 23:47.45 | tmzt_ | fbset -g 320 240 320 240 |
| 23:47.48 | BruteSource | this is like a rwally slow ssh connection lol proxied |
| 23:48.21 | BruteSource | BusyBox v1.10.1 (2008-05-17 23:31:11) multi-call binary |
| 23:48.21 | BruteSource | Usage: fbset [options] [mode] |
| 23:48.21 | BruteSource | Show and modify frame buffer settings |
| 23:49.55 | BruteSource | bb 1 sec |
| 23:53.27 | BruteSource | back |
| 23:53.48 | tmzt_ | it's busybox |
| 23:53.54 | BruteSource | ya |
| 23:54.04 | tmzt_ | fbset -xres 320 -yres 240 |
| 23:55.39 | BruteSource | http://pastebin.com/m1c218878 |
| 23:56.35 | tmzt_ | fbset -xres 320 -yres 240 -vxres 320 -vyres 240 |
| 23:56.39 | BruteSource | theres the timings he was talking about |
| 23:57.42 | BruteSource | http://pastebin.com/m70c0dc3d |
| 23:58.33 | tmzt_ | timings were in the dmesg too, not sure if these make any sense (60hz vertical) |
| 23:58.59 | BruteSource | I am lost lol |