00:01.00 | MnemonicPunk | So in that archive there's the android rootfs somewhere? o.o |
00:01.09 | cr2 | PU,KP,PD,NP HI,LO |
00:01.55 | MnemonicPunk | What does that mean? xD |
00:02.35 | MnemonicPunk | Ngrr >_> |
00:02.46 | MnemonicPunk | Extracted to wrong partition. |
00:03.09 | NetRipper | i hate pressing ctrl-s automatically |
00:03.13 | NetRipper | locking my terminal |
00:03.37 | MnemonicPunk | lol |
00:04.01 | imfloflo | go go android 1.0 on polaris via SDcard |
00:04.04 | MnemonicPunk | Which os? |
00:04.11 | NetRipper | linux |
00:04.24 | NetRipper | any text terminal will lock when you press ctrl-s, until ypu press ctrl-q |
00:04.27 | NetRipper | (xoff, xon) |
00:04.31 | MnemonicPunk | o.o |
00:04.36 | MnemonicPunk | Never knew that. |
00:05.30 | NetRipper | its horrible, especially when you do it subconciously and you're waiting like 2 mins for a fucking .tar.gz to be extracted while it was done a thousand times already, but the terminal was locked |
00:05.45 | NetRipper | [/frustration] |
00:06.51 | MnemonicPunk | lol |
00:08.17 | NetRipper | bedtime |
00:08.19 | NetRipper | nite :) |
00:08.27 | MnemonicPunk | Good night. =) |
00:09.17 | ALoGeNo | lo all.. |
00:09.37 | ALoGeNo | http://www.flickr.com/photos/30871603@N06/sets/72157607495014144/detail/ |
00:10.09 | ALoGeNo | i must put the kismet in action too ;) |
00:10.36 | cr2 | ALoGeNo: no picture of the amplifier ? |
00:10.53 | ALoGeNo | isnt amplifier.. |
00:11.02 | ALoGeNo | only antennas |
00:11.45 | ALoGeNo | biquad 14dbi outdoor |
00:11.54 | MnemonicPunk | Androids FS looks... strange. o.o Kinda like *nix but kinda not. |
00:12.05 | ALoGeNo | yagui 18dbi inthe floor |
00:13.46 | ALoGeNo | MnemonicPunk: in wich phone? |
00:14.08 | ALoGeNo | kaiser? |
00:15.07 | MnemonicPunk | In the SDK I downloaded. xD |
00:15.32 | MnemonicPunk | But from the looks of it, it may run on any phone. o.o |
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00:16.43 | MnemonicPunk | I'll give it a try and see how far I get. xD |
00:20.02 | ALoGeNo | oh.. ;) |
00:20.14 | ALoGeNo | you testing with qemu? |
00:20.38 | ALoGeNo | or the sdk have his emu? |
00:21.03 | ALoGeNo | kk np n00b question :) |
00:21.13 | ALoGeNo | i guess.. |
00:22.59 | MnemonicPunk | No I'm trying to start it on my phone. |
00:23.06 | MnemonicPunk | Probably won't work. |
00:23.12 | MnemonicPunk | But worth the fun. xD |
00:28.25 | MnemonicPunk | Alright, didn't start. |
00:28.28 | MnemonicPunk | xD |
00:29.01 | MnemonicPunk | But I think I know how to change that. ^-^ |
00:29.26 | ALoGeNo | :) |
00:29.33 | ALoGeNo | kk |
00:43.15 | ALoGeNo | cr2: why you think that i have amplifier? |
00:44.31 | ALoGeNo | you dont need nothing more that do that mod, rip the little original and put the conector ;) |
00:44.56 | ALoGeNo | and later you can put any anntena that you want |
00:44.58 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: Is msm7201a just a copy of msm7500? If so, I think we should just alias the two - not copy the code. |
00:50.00 | Kevin2 | NetRipper: I've updated the latest mach-types in CVS. Please send your latest diffs to haret@handhelds.org. We can discuss via email. |
00:54.26 | MnemonicPunk | If I want my phone to have proper touchscreen support, do I have to compile with serial I/O support? |
00:54.44 | MnemonicPunk | My touchscreen won't work the way it should and I'm trying to find out why. xD |
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01:22.50 | MnemonicPunk | Good night. =) |
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03:09.58 | bryan | anyone around ? |
03:10.12 | ALoGeNo | any |
03:10.27 | bryan | hey hey |
03:10.41 | ALoGeNo | hi bryan |
03:11.01 | bryan | hows it going AL? |
03:11.18 | ALoGeNo | comsi comsa |
03:11.22 | ALoGeNo | ;) |
03:11.36 | ALoGeNo | its ok.. |
03:11.59 | bryan | so linux running on many htc devices ? |
03:12.17 | bryan | i dont see my s640 anywheres on handhelds .. :( |
03:12.40 | bryan | what htc phone you run ? |
03:12.46 | ALoGeNo | you can take a look at handhels.org.. |
03:13.08 | ALoGeNo | i have htc hermes and htc universal |
03:14.30 | ALoGeNo | the uni with debian (but somthing strage that runs with utopia kernel and exe) |
03:14.30 | bryan | i recently enabled my gps in my s640 ... lovin google maps now .. ehehe |
03:14.36 | ALoGeNo | htc hermes not work linux at all.. |
03:14.38 | bryan | you played around with android at all . |
03:15.44 | ALoGeNo | well no,i was try opie 1 and 2, gpe, qtopia but no android at moment |
03:16.30 | ALoGeNo | and debian of course ;) (wonderful) |
03:17.01 | ALoGeNo | s640 have any aka name? |
03:17.10 | bryan | its the iris . |
03:17.14 | ALoGeNo | that is sony? |
03:17.20 | bryan | no htc . |
03:17.23 | ALoGeNo | oh.. |
03:17.46 | bryan | telus only as far as ive seen. |
03:17.50 | ALoGeNo | you was search in xda-dev forum? |
03:18.23 | bryan | ya i find stuff here and there .. haret.exe dont work on it .. but its the same chipset as the others . |
03:18.54 | ALoGeNo | not work? ot kernel panic or whaterver? |
03:19.24 | ALoGeNo | haret is a bicth.. |
03:19.59 | bryan | its a error ... one sec . |
03:20.19 | ALoGeNo | i was have to use qtopia for bot in loop image.. |
03:20.37 | ALoGeNo | np |
03:21.48 | bryan | terminating haret due to unhandled exception (pc=00017638) |
03:21.54 | bryan | thats the error i get ,. |
03:22.36 | bryan | i keep reading things about memtype in the default.txt but i dont think its even getting that far. |
03:22.51 | ALoGeNo | wow..that is wince and your haret yep |
03:23.53 | ALoGeNo | thats look like a problem bettwin haret and you device |
03:24.34 | bryan | ya so its a wince thingy then ... there is a diff between the smartphone versions and pda types eh .. |
03:25.27 | bryan | so there must be a simlar haret program for smartphone winmo .. |
03:25.32 | bryan | ? |
03:26.45 | ALoGeNo | your phone is a smatphe uh? |
03:27.01 | ALoGeNo | smartphone* |
03:27.49 | ALoGeNo | bryan: i think that the wince isnt the same that for pda |
03:28.09 | bryan | ya i kinda figured that was my issue .. |
03:28.12 | ALoGeNo | and change the resolution too.. (i think) |
03:28.51 | ALoGeNo | yep, you must search for haret one for your device or similar.. |
03:29.16 | ALoGeNo | same architecture and smartphone i guess |
03:30.13 | bryan | thanks .. ill keep lookin . |
03:31.17 | ALoGeNo | np :) |
03:34.09 | ALoGeNo | linux in the hermes is at the beggining of development but i have another pda (handheldpc) mobile pro 900c, the same procesor that the others but another system, and screen resolution 640x240, and that need another one haret build for him.. |
03:35.20 | ALoGeNo | and that my left to see things like that.. (that you need in some cases speciphic haret) |
03:35.53 | ALoGeNo | sorry for my english |
03:42.14 | bryan | they are basically bootloaders ? |
03:44.41 | snakefreak | universal debian qtopia exe? |
03:45.17 | snakefreak | whats mean by this? do you have partitions on your card or you run debian from image file? |
03:47.11 | ALoGeNo | image file yes.., becose my sd inst recognised by the kernel ;( |
03:48.06 | ALoGeNo | know you where can i find some kernel default to universal? |
03:48.54 | snakefreak | you have runing debvian on image file you are my man! |
03:49.03 | ALoGeNo | i was get the qtopia git thinking that was = that jlime git repository but nope |
03:50.03 | snakefreak | becose my sd inst recognised by the kernel ;( |
03:50.08 | snakefreak | why not? |
03:50.19 | snakefreak | where are you from? |
03:50.33 | ALoGeNo | from spain.. |
03:50.55 | ALoGeNo | becose that is a mini-sd with adaptor |
03:51.58 | snakefreak | i think that should work to. |
03:51.59 | ALoGeNo | and i was try all that can you imagine and dont works in any case with any kernel, and qtopia and openmoko exe's yes.. |
03:52.41 | snakefreak | can you explain how to run debian from image file? i try these since 5 days. ;-( |
03:53.44 | ALoGeNo | im compiling my owns kernels for the mp900c, but i dont know where find a default kernel to do that in the uni, and set on ramdisk to boot haret with new kernel and image file |
03:54.13 | ALoGeNo | defautl_config* |
03:54.50 | ALoGeNo | snakefreak: i was used 4 pages.. or 5.. |
03:54.53 | ALoGeNo | http://wiki.neilandtheresa.co.uk/Titchy_Linux |
03:55.22 | ALoGeNo | http://sumoudou.org/index.php?cmd=Non-Sumou |
03:56.15 | ALoGeNo | http://www.oesf.org/forum/ |
03:56.51 | ALoGeNo | and i have to try that metoth http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2006/12/31/linux-on-the-htc-universal |
03:57.11 | ALoGeNo | but i dunno how that guy get the kernel.. |
04:08.41 | ALoGeNo | http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=25666 |
04:09.24 | ALoGeNo | snakefreak: look at this link too.. and in xda-dev forum treath for more rweaks |
04:09.31 | ALoGeNo | tweaks* |
04:09.58 | snakefreak | i know most of sites. |
04:10.29 | snakefreak | but all speak from make ext2 partition on your sd card. |
04:11.01 | snakefreak | but my plan is to run without ext2 partiton on card |
04:11.13 | ALoGeNo | no, in xda dev in the htc universal linux treath you have a guy that explains how to do that |
04:11.21 | snakefreak | in an image file on fat filesystem |
04:11.38 | snakefreak | ok than i musst look in it^^ |
04:11.53 | ALoGeNo | that is that i have |
04:12.31 | ALoGeNo | qtopia exe + qtopia.rootfs.img ;) |
04:12.41 | ALoGeNo | but isnt qtopia is debian |
04:13.29 | snakefreak | ^^ cool |
04:13.33 | ALoGeNo | but that boot with qutopia kernel |
04:13.42 | snakefreak | do you have a page number |
04:13.45 | ALoGeNo | and that kernel sucks |
04:13.46 | snakefreak | ? |
04:14.17 | ALoGeNo | look.. get the latest qutopia for universal.. |
04:16.53 | ALoGeNo | lather get that http://sumoudou.org/uni/rootfs_20080427.tgz |
04:17.11 | ALoGeNo | nope.. that cant run.. |
04:17.15 | ALoGeNo | wait.. |
04:18.27 | ALoGeNo | snakefreak: you have linux rigth now? |
04:19.05 | snakefreak | on uni openmoko and qtopia on man pc not in the moment. |
04:19.16 | snakefreak | main |
04:19.30 | ALoGeNo | well.. |
04:19.50 | ALoGeNo | that is the question.... |
04:19.55 | ALoGeNo | dd if=/dev/zero of= qtopia.linux.img bs=1k count=1000000 |
04:20.11 | ALoGeNo | in linux that create image archive.. of 1GB |
04:20.18 | ALoGeNo | dd if=/dev/zero of= qtopia.linux.img bs=1k count=2000000 |
04:20.21 | ALoGeNo | 2GB-... |
04:20.30 | ALoGeNo | by example.. |
04:20.38 | snakefreak | i must go to work in 10 minutes. ;-( |
04:20.47 | ALoGeNo | later you need mount that and format.. |
04:20.55 | ALoGeNo | copy and keep |
04:21.10 | ALoGeNo | mkfs.ext2 -c qtopia.linux.img |
04:21.16 | ALoGeNo | that format the image.. |
04:21.34 | snakefreak | please write more^^ when iam gonne i can read it later when iam back home (mirc logs all in this channel) |
04:21.39 | ALoGeNo | that mount the image in /root/mnt |
04:21.41 | ALoGeNo | mount -o loop qtopia.linux.img /root/mnt |
04:23.08 | ALoGeNo | create /root/rootfs |
04:23.20 | ALoGeNo | cd /root/rootfs |
04:23.52 | ALoGeNo | and if you has the file http://sumoudou.org/uni/rootfs_20080427.tgz downloaded in /root |
04:24.07 | ALoGeNo | cd /root/rootfs |
04:24.30 | ALoGeNo | tar xvf ../rootfs_20080427.tgz |
04:25.12 | ALoGeNo | later cp -av /root/rootfs/* /root/mnt/ |
04:25.26 | ALoGeNo | and umount /root/mnt/ |
04:25.51 | snakefreak | yes i have the root fs tgz |
04:26.00 | ALoGeNo | at the end get htcuniversal-qutopia.exe and qtopia.linux.img |
04:26.19 | ALoGeNo | put in the root of the SD card and runit |
04:27.13 | ALoGeNo | that is the rootfs with icewm |
04:27.14 | ALoGeNo | http://sumoudou.org/uni/shiroikuma-universal-rootfs-20080507.tar.bz2 |
04:27.33 | ALoGeNo | qith xwindow running |
04:27.40 | ALoGeNo | with* |
04:28.08 | snakefreak | btw i think goboxlive has created the all in one qtopia loader and should able to help us with the kernel problem. |
04:29.03 | snakefreak | now i must. go. please write thanks |
04:29.27 | snakefreak | i wish a good day. |
04:30.50 | ALoGeNo | thnks :) |
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05:28.18 | bryan | hey ALoGeNo i think i might of figured something .. the s620 runs haret ... maybe my Reg is locked |
05:28.47 | tmzt_ | bryan: get a signed regedit from xda, if it's for the right device |
05:29.14 | tmzt_ | bryan: do you know what processor it has? |
05:29.20 | ALoGeNo | oh but dont say.. that you can trust in the appz? |
05:29.26 | bryan | yes its a msm7500 .. |
05:29.46 | tmzt_ | with smartphone os, (wm6 standard) ? |
05:29.52 | bryan | yes |
05:30.29 | tmzt_ | you might ask Kevin2 or cr2 about the haret error |
05:30.58 | tmzt_ | I have run haret on wm5 smartphone before |
05:31.46 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_: and who can guide me to compile kernel for uni? well i only need the default_config for uni, becose i think that the arm cross compiler is valid no? |
05:32.20 | bryan | thanks tmzt_ thats good to know . |
05:32.24 | bryan | night all .. |
05:33.15 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: are you trying to build the oe kernel for universal, or just any kernel? |
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05:40.14 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: are you trying to build a kernel with openembedded, from handhelds.org cvs, or from kernel.org sources? |
05:41.21 | ALoGeNo | well i get the git repo for qtopia from handheldpc.org.. |
05:42.12 | ALoGeNo | but im lost with that i know do that for 900c but not in qtopia and the doc is very big and for developers not for compile kernel or that.. |
05:52.33 | tmzt_ | ALoGeNo: ok, what are you trying to do? |
05:52.45 | ALoGeNo | :) |
05:53.10 | ALoGeNo | well just boot image rootfs with haret |
05:53.28 | tmzt_ | with Titchy kernel? |
05:53.34 | ALoGeNo | but it giveme a limitation of 100 or 200 or whatever.. |
05:54.11 | ALoGeNo | yes this kernel fault with my SD and img file more biger than 200MB |
05:54.33 | tmzt_ | what is the command line you are using in startup.txt/default.txt ? |
05:54.52 | ALoGeNo | fault doing the 2 partitions method, and image file methos more bigger than 200MB |
05:55.00 | ALoGeNo | letme copy |
05:55.34 | ALoGeNo | set kernel "zImage" |
05:55.34 | ALoGeNo | set mtype "855" |
05:55.34 | ALoGeNo | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rw console=tty0 rootdelay=5 fbcon=rotate:1" |
05:55.34 | ALoGeNo | boot |
05:55.48 | ALoGeNo | this with ext2 partition.. |
05:56.05 | tmzt_ | you have one fat and one ext2 partition? |
05:56.17 | ALoGeNo | this with image file.. set KERNEL zImage |
05:56.18 | ALoGeNo | set INITRD rd |
05:56.18 | ALoGeNo | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk_size=14336 keepinitrd console=tty0 mem=63M fbcon=rotate:1" |
05:56.18 | ALoGeNo | boot2 |
05:56.29 | ALoGeNo | not now.. |
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05:56.49 | ALoGeNo | now im using the rootfs.img |
05:56.51 | tmzt_ | "rd" is the image file? |
05:57.02 | ALoGeNo | and booting with qtopia.exe ;) |
05:57.26 | ALoGeNo | yes that i was try rd |
05:57.35 | tmzt_ | how big is rd? |
05:57.42 | ALoGeNo | 1,5GB |
05:58.02 | tmzt_ | initrd can't be bigger than ram, or a little smaller |
05:58.19 | ALoGeNo | wel.. and? |
05:58.23 | ALoGeNo | well* |
05:59.50 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_: haret cant do that qtopia does? |
06:00.07 | tmzt_ | with MnemonicPunk I built an initrd for any kernel that will boot from an image |
06:00.19 | tmzt_ | from the oe git sources |
06:00.30 | tmzt_ | he was going to post it somewhere |
06:00.54 | ALoGeNo | wow.. that sounds well :) |
06:01.27 | tmzt_ | for the first file you posted, change root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 for the second partition, if the Titchy kernel works it might mount then |
06:01.49 | ALoGeNo | np, but i have some issues with kernel and kirq whaterver demon |
06:02.08 | ALoGeNo | nopes.. is tryed |
06:02.22 | ALoGeNo | it is* |
06:02.54 | ALoGeNo | i was try all possibles combinations |
06:03.01 | tmzt_ | ok, what messages did you get? |
06:03.08 | ALoGeNo | i was have* :) |
06:03.29 | ALoGeNo | VFS not found |
06:03.34 | ALoGeNo | kernel panic |
06:03.52 | ALoGeNo | cant found partition in blablabal |
06:04.19 | ALoGeNo | allways the same holy panic crap |
06:06.14 | tmzt_ | you made rootdelay longer? |
06:06.37 | ALoGeNo | nope.. |
06:07.13 | ALoGeNo | i didnt test with rootdelay |
06:07.15 | tmzt_ | can you try that and give me the messages as close as possible |
06:07.27 | tmzt_ | you have the kernel from Installing_Debian ? |
06:07.44 | ALoGeNo | what howto i need to read to config default.txt or know the options? |
06:08.41 | tmzt_ | Titchy_Mobile/Installing_Debian, get that zImage and default.txt, change the root= to root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 |
06:09.11 | ALoGeNo | well if we use the img method yes i can,, but if you say the other metoth partitioning i need to do the partitions and all the stuff |
06:09.41 | ALoGeNo | nop.. in this way not run tmzt_ |
06:10.10 | ALoGeNo | wait a second.. |
06:10.22 | ALoGeNo | what is that "Titchy_Mobile/Installing_Debian" |
06:10.34 | tmzt_ | search "Titchy Mobile" on google |
06:10.44 | tmzt_ | then go to Installing Debian in wiki |
06:10.45 | ALoGeNo | isnt necesary :) |
06:10.49 | ALoGeNo | i have it open |
06:10.59 | ALoGeNo | what you want? |
06:11.08 | tmzt_ | are you using that zImage? |
06:11.22 | ALoGeNo | yes of course i have it.. |
06:11.41 | ALoGeNo | but i dont have it copiated in the sd and the sd is fat now |
06:11.56 | tmzt_ | the default.txt you posted was the same as that page, except you need root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 |
06:12.01 | tmzt_ | the whole sd is fat? |
06:12.04 | ALoGeNo | do you want that i do all the process? |
06:12.11 | ALoGeNo | yeah |
06:12.20 | tmzt_ | what are you trying to use, qtopia or debian? |
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06:12.26 | ALoGeNo | debian.. |
06:12.30 | ALoGeNo | im doing! |
06:12.42 | ALoGeNo | im using debian rigth now |
06:12.59 | tmzt_ | on pc or on universal? |
06:13.07 | ALoGeNo | but booting with qtopia ;) |
06:13.14 | ALoGeNo | yea! |
06:13.23 | tmzt_ | the qtopia.exe? |
06:13.27 | ALoGeNo | yep |
06:13.28 | ALoGeNo | ;) |
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06:14.25 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_: im mixed some info from somes webs and i do that in my way ;) |
06:15.54 | tmzt_ | <PROTECTED> |
06:15.55 | ALoGeNo | and qtopia lets me use rootfs.img of 1.5GB or maybe more.. i dunno at time ;) |
06:16.20 | ALoGeNo | wait.. now im not using haret stuff.. |
06:16.54 | ALoGeNo | just htc-universal.qtopia.exe and qtopia.rootfs.img |
06:16.59 | ALoGeNo | ;) |
06:17.24 | ALoGeNo | both in root of sd fat and runs propelly |
06:17.26 | tmzt_ | and what messages are on the screen when you start that |
06:17.49 | tmzt_ | it works, but you are trying to use debian instead? |
06:18.01 | ALoGeNo | but is a 2.6.21 kernel and fault the kshareirqd or so.. |
06:18.26 | ALoGeNo | the wifi hangs or faults a lot.. |
06:18.40 | ALoGeNo | nono that works!! |
06:19.10 | ALoGeNo | the problem comes when i try to put titchy in the normal way.. |
06:19.16 | tmzt_ | with the zImage from titchy mobie, run strings zImage |grep looproot |
06:19.33 | ALoGeNo | haret deafut.txt and fat/ext2 partiticion way.. |
06:20.23 | ALoGeNo | i cant |
06:20.39 | ALoGeNo | becose isnt installed :) im telling you :) |
06:22.48 | ALoGeNo | tmzt_: i cant boot haret with rootfs.img big? |
06:22.58 | ALoGeNo | why? |
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07:45.06 | BabelO_ | morning |
07:45.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: good idea on your mailing list, i ve a camera with gps positionning into exif, can be perfect for track :) |
07:47.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: I like this guy :) |
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09:40.50 | NetRipper | hm |
09:43.04 | NetRipper | had an odd experience with haret this morning, it actually got passed the shutting down MMU line, but only printed two more characters after that... "In " followed by a garbled character |
09:43.27 | NetRipper | im wondering if that was kernel code or a piece of haret i missed |
09:43.47 | BabelO_ | NetRipper: if you don't see go go go that's not the kernel |
09:45.01 | NetRipper | er, it's passed the go go go to even get to the 'shutting down MMU' |
09:47.25 | NetRipper | i made a pic |
09:47.33 | NetRipper | thought it was memorable :p |
09:47.35 | BabelO_ | oh ok |
09:50.16 | NetRipper | http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/IMG_2579.jpg |
09:51.33 | BabelO_ | NetRipper: don't remember at thios step that you already pass the go go go .... |
09:51.40 | cr2 | hi |
09:51.49 | BabelO_ | becuase after go go go... it just to linux kernel |
09:51.50 | cr2 | BabelO_: mailing list ? |
09:51.59 | BabelO_ | cr2: which one ? |
09:52.14 | cr2 | about exif |
09:52.16 | BabelO_ | cr2: qlandkarte user, new feature required :) |
09:52.22 | cr2 | lol |
09:52.41 | cr2 | they all want to kill old good pirated ozi :) |
09:52.53 | BabelO_ | cr2: someone want to automatically add its picture from the walk into the track |
09:53.22 | cr2 | ok |
09:53.23 | BabelO_ | cr2: that's easy with exif from the picture, google already do that online :) |
09:53.31 | cr2 | yes |
09:53.52 | cr2 | but if you write down the tracks, a timestamp should be enough |
09:54.45 | NetRipper | BabelO_, http://www.codebin.nl/pastes/view/FEAyYDeFWsf3 |
09:54.54 | cr2 | kiozen: that's cool -> http://www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de/organisation/anfahrt.html |
09:55.03 | BabelO_ | cr2: also yes |
09:55.19 | NetRipper | or is there another go go go |
09:55.20 | NetRipper | somewhere |
09:56.08 | kiozen | cr2: lol, OSM maps :) they don't take the LVA stuff |
09:56.20 | cr2 | NetRipper: i think there should be a cleaner way to do it |
09:56.29 | BabelO_ | NetRipper: ok there is no other :) that's too fast |
09:56.40 | NetRipper | cr2, the sleep you mean? |
09:56.55 | cr2 | NetRipper: yes |
09:57.07 | NetRipper | cr2, tell me |
09:58.06 | NetRipper | i agree there should be a better way, my lack of experience prevents me though :) |
09:58.44 | cr2 | NetRipper: it should be possible to use framebuffer directly, without sleep hacks |
10:00.16 | NetRipper | the fb_printf writes to the raw framebuffer memory addresses |
10:01.37 | NetRipper | there's probably some sort of refresh rate at which the display is updated, without the sleep() the machine hangs before a refresh cycle is reached |
10:01.40 | NetRipper | or well, that's my theory |
10:02.42 | NetRipper | though, wouldn't explain why, on the photo, it hangs while it is drawing a chracter |
10:03.36 | NetRipper | seems as if the top part of the letter 'p' is drawn, but then hang |
10:04.41 | NetRipper | i need a pictures of a working device from the haret boot part |
10:04.44 | NetRipper | left my hermes at home :p |
10:05.10 | cr2 | there is some dma daemon that transfers the data to LCD |
10:05.33 | cr2 | MDDI is serial as SATA |
10:05.46 | NetRipper | ah, it's printing the 'in preloader' message at that point it seems |
10:06.07 | cr2 | if the irqs are off, you can't use sleep() btw |
10:06.33 | cr2 | and if the mmu is off, you'll have big problems with such IO anyway. |
10:06.45 | NetRipper | but interrupts should be off at that point, the take_control() disables them via some asm code |
10:07.22 | cr2 | vibra is not on a gpio, so you can#t that too. there are no LEDs on raphael ? |
10:07.36 | cr2 | NetRipper: then forget about display update at that stage |
10:08.08 | BabelO_ | cr2: do you use suspend to RAM on your laptop ? |
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10:08.20 | cr2 | i think there are the backlight leds (keyboard), but they need an i2c command through this microP |
10:08.21 | NetRipper | do the irq addresses differ from the 7x00? |
10:08.51 | cr2 | it's all documented in the android kernel branch |
10:09.06 | cr2 | the 7200 data in wiki comes actually from there |
10:09.14 | cr2 | and is sometimes inaccurate |
10:09.26 | cr2 | because it's the 7200A data in the first place |
10:10.41 | cr2 | NetRipper: the LCD init will be a big issue anyway |
10:11.07 | cr2 | i'd write down the commands and addresses into wiki... |
10:11.49 | NetRipper | lcd init will be an issue for kernel, not haret, right? |
10:14.35 | cr2 | for the kernel |
10:15.22 | cr2 | hehe. since there is an Ahi* api, you may use this one ;) |
10:25.53 | NetRipper | cr2, without interrupts, a sleep wouldn't have any use, would it? like, there's nothing else the cpu could perform simultaneously, right? |
10:26.04 | NetRipper | or could it still be triggered via a gpio or something |
10:26.51 | NetRipper | so foremost problem would be that interrupts are not properly disabled |
10:32.52 | cr2 | NetRipper: you can't sleep() with irq off |
10:33.10 | cr2 | because you will not see the timer interrupt anymore |
10:33.41 | cr2 | do some dummy for() loop if you want, and trick out the gcc optimizer |
10:47.26 | NetRipper | hm |
10:52.17 | NetRipper | kind of obvious the interrupts dont get disabled, as in my test code i can use Sleep() after the take_control() |
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11:47.06 | dcordes_ | cr2: NetRipper: a random thought on the raphael boot situation. NetRipper what you said with the garbled character sounds a bit like there's not enough room for the display. did you try and raise MSM_FB_SIZE in the board file? |
11:49.20 | cr2 | dcordes_: is something like that is set in a halibut board file ? |
11:49.24 | dcordes_ | hm on the other hand it looks like it doesn't get that far so that might be a stupid idea |
11:49.38 | dcordes_ | *on the photo |
11:50.40 | dcordes_ | cr2: yes: |
11:50.41 | dcordes_ | #define MSM_FB_BASEMSM_PMEM_GPU1_BASE + MSM_PMEM_GPU1_SIZE |
11:50.42 | dcordes_ | #define MSM_FB_SIZE0x200000 |
11:56.05 | cr2 | 2MB is not enough for vga16 ? |
11:57.00 | SNAKE-AFK | cr2 do you have info about htc athena ( advantage x7500) linux ports? |
11:57.33 | cr2 | dcordes_: i think we need some good MDDI description. since it's some standard, somebody should be able to scan/copy it in a library. |
11:57.50 | cr2 | SNAKE-AFK: what would you like to know ? |
11:58.50 | SNAKE-AFK | has any port done how is the status? |
11:59.55 | dcordes_ | cr2: maybe it's too much out of some peculiar reason? |
12:00.08 | dcordes_ | cr2: you could also try and disable the panning |
12:00.16 | NetRipper | haret only needs 96k for framebuffer |
12:00.30 | NetRipper | width * height * 2 colors |
12:00.57 | dcordes_ | cr2: on kaiser, etc, panning seems to have no effect on the fbcon situation, might be different on raph |
12:01.14 | NetRipper | but i agree 2mb is a bit low for 16 bpp :p |
12:02.39 | cr2 | SNAKE-AFK: i can easily add the BT and GPS support to athena. ATI SD is tough, but i'm using the rootfs on USB stick |
12:03.21 | SNAKE-AFK | hm ok looks intresting usb host capable?^^ |
12:03.39 | SNAKE-AFK | do you know the maximum sd size under windows? |
12:03.42 | cr2 | dcordes_: it#s a good idea anyway. it's not clear to me what locations are standardized, and which are panel/vendor specific |
12:04.29 | cr2 | SNAKE-AFK: you can connect a 750GB usb hdd. with external power ;) don't know about the SD |
12:05.22 | cr2 | SNAKE-AFK: i've used usb keyboard and usb stick connected through usb hub. it's a bit tricky to boot though :) |
12:05.27 | dcordes_ | cr2: what's the max. output current on athena usb? |
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15:44.31 | cr2 | kiozen: http://www.davidgis.fr/blog/index.php?2008/07/24/349-shooting-star-usage-example-with-turn-restriction |
15:45.56 | kiozen | cr2: you are now in the routing business? |
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15:48.13 | cr2 | no, just a nice thing |
15:48.33 | cr2 | source/headers/geos/noding/FastNodingValidator.h:101: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'auto_ptr' with no type |
15:48.44 | cr2 | why is that ? |
15:49.12 | cr2 | worked with gcc-4.2 |
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15:50.00 | NetRipper | dcordes_, just fyi, on wiki, if you add a link, you do not need to put the http://...url when you refer to other pages on the same wiki, it prevents backlinks from working (click title of a page to see pages that link to the page) |
15:50.15 | NetRipper | dcordes_, just fixed it for raphaelresearch |
15:51.07 | NetRipper | dinner, bbl |
15:52.27 | cr2 | hmm, can't compile the kernel for alpha with gcc-3.3.3 too |
15:56.35 | cr2 | many missing #include <cstring> |
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16:05.24 | cr2 | wow |
16:05.28 | cr2 | hi lkcl |
16:05.33 | lkcl | allo cr2 |
16:05.45 | cr2 | how are you doing ? |
16:05.48 | lkcl | thought i'd just drop by see how things are going |
16:05.56 | lkcl | interesting :) |
16:05.59 | cr2 | :) |
16:06.13 | BabelO_ | hi lkcl |
16:06.15 | lkcl | gosh, there's a lot of people in here |
16:06.22 | lkcl | allo Babel0_ |
16:06.36 | lkcl | what's with the 0 and the _ ? |
16:06.48 | lkcl | ohh, it's an O not a 0 |
16:06.51 | Marajin | well he just likes them |
16:06.55 | lkcl | ha ha |
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16:07.23 | lkcl | interesting about the htc dream being all the rage at google, neh? |
16:07.37 | cr2 | raphael is better :) |
16:07.45 | Marajin | lkcl: it runs google android, of course it's all the rage at google :P |
16:07.55 | lkcl | Marajin: duh ha ha |
16:08.28 | cr2 | lkcl: half-vga is weird |
16:08.45 | lkcl | oh god, they didn't. yuk. |
16:08.49 | Marajin | cr2: It's been standard in palmtops for years |
16:09.01 | Marajin | it's not that weird |
16:09.27 | lkcl | Marajin: we're used to 640x480 from the htc universal |
16:09.48 | cr2 | Marajin: which is 3 years old |
16:09.56 | Marajin | heh |
16:10.15 | Marajin | there were VGA devices earlier than that, I'm just saying it's not a 'rare' resolution |
16:10.20 | Marajin | and it's better than QVGA |
16:10.29 | lkcl | anyone know if the source code is available for the linux kernel's being released from gooOOogle? |
16:10.44 | cr2 | lkcl: only partial |
16:10.51 | cr2 | for the core cpu support |
16:10.53 | lkcl | cr2: partial???? |
16:11.15 | cr2 | not for the device drivers. afaik |
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16:11.27 | lkcl | you can't sell devices and do _partial_ release of GPL'd code!! |
16:11.28 | Marajin | lkcl: yeah basically the device drivers will be licenced oddly and they can't distribute |
16:11.59 | lkcl | that's going to result _instantly_ in cease-and-desist orders against any of the sellers of the phone. madness. |
16:12.00 | cr2 | Marajin: it's only a guess |
16:12.28 | cr2 | lkcl: binary modules always was a PITA with linux ;-) |
16:12.41 | Marajin | lkcl: nonsense, it's perfectly legal. |
16:12.48 | lkcl | i _like_ it being a PITA |
16:12.56 | lkcl | grrrrr |
16:13.04 | cr2 | but i'll be pleased if google will release the gpl 54mbit acx driver |
16:13.15 | lkcl | yeahhh |
16:13.23 | Marajin | I always wonder about that |
16:13.36 | Marajin | there's no way the 54mbit devices actually achieve 54mbps |
16:13.52 | lkcl | Marajin: well, if nothing else, having binary drivers for a linux kernel will make them a tiny bit easier to reverse-engineer. |
16:13.54 | Marajin | stuff the size of the eee doesn't realistically |
16:14.26 | cr2 | lkcl: only for simple devices |
16:14.27 | Marajin | lkcl: sure, but I don't have a dream and I can't afford a nightmare, let alone a dream right now.. so it's kinda SEP |
16:14.33 | lkcl | ha ha |
16:15.18 | cr2 | lkcl: i owe you a lot of money. |
16:15.26 | lkcl | cr2: gosh, do you? |
16:15.32 | lkcl | that's nice :) |
16:15.33 | cr2 | i've broken the hermes lense ;-) |
16:15.51 | cr2 | don#t know how that happened. |
16:15.53 | lkcl | ha ha |
16:16.44 | cr2 | but i've found even more extra gpios on hermes yesterday |
16:16.48 | lkcl | i shouldn't worry about it - but if you happened to want to give me some money that you didn't need particularly that would be very helpful |
16:16.51 | lkcl | yaay! |
16:17.32 | lkcl | oo, i see there's quite a lot of research done on it |
16:17.36 | cr2 | then you'd send me an e-mail |
16:18.20 | cr2 | yes, the ATI SD is probably the last stumbling block |
16:19.03 | Marajin | C'mon cr2! you can do it! make my hermes useful again! |
16:19.24 | cr2 | Marajin: it's ot only hermes, but athena too |
16:19.53 | cr2 | it's researched pretty well, but the last step is still missing |
16:20.00 | Marajin | and what is that? |
16:20.08 | Marajin | plus, I have no athena and I doubt I ever will |
16:20.23 | cr2 | i was actually waiting for somebody to port asic3_mmc for .25+ |
16:21.05 | cr2 | if there will be asic3_mmc driver it'd be much easier to fix atiw_mmc |
16:21.30 | cr2 | i have an athena, and would like to have working miniSD there ;) |
16:22.17 | Marajin | Yeah I mean that I have nothing to contribute even vaguely towards anything athena related |
16:22.20 | Marajin | :p |
16:22.32 | cr2 | it's the same driver |
16:22.36 | Marajin | I want a raphael myself honestly but so expensive |
16:23.31 | cr2 | raphael will be really cool when G1 comes out |
16:23.43 | Marajin | yeah should be a lot of hardware crossover there |
16:24.15 | lkcl | the imageon 2282 is opengl compatible?? |
16:24.20 | Marajin | tho'.... how MANY HTCs do you actually have at the moment cr2? |
16:24.29 | Marajin | lkcl: OpenGL ES yeah? |
16:24.34 | lkcl | cool |
16:24.50 | lkcl | go on cr2 - tell him you've got more than i have :) |
16:25.38 | Marajin | It's kinda funny how some people never really get rid of their older devices and end up just tinkering |
16:26.04 | lkcl | Marajin: yeah, i still have my himalaya. |
16:26.06 | Marajin | my hermes currently serves the purpose of 'backup alarm clock on rare occassions' for example |
16:26.54 | lkcl | *lol* |
16:26.57 | Marajin | lkcl I want to take my hermes and kaiser to a supercollider and have them atomically merged... maybe something nice'd come out the other end :P |
16:27.28 | lkcl | you'll have to wait a few days whil they fix the helium leak at the LHC |
16:27.35 | lkcl | ok. food. |
16:27.37 | Marajin | a few weeks :p |
16:27.42 | Marajin | food would be good |
16:27.45 | Marajin | I envy food.. |
16:27.49 | Marajin | I have only chocolate |
16:28.00 | lkcl | later folks |
16:30.39 | cr2 | lol |
16:31.38 | cr2 | Marajin: i have only 3 htc devices now |
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16:32.26 | cr2 | 2 more belong to lkcl, and i've sent my himalaya and blueangel to other people |
16:32.53 | cr2 | and my daily phone is a780 |
16:33.23 | cr2 | but will be raphael. soon :) |
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17:10.00 | Marajin | swears. |
17:10.06 | NetRipper | cr2, you continued work on hermes? |
17:13.03 | Marajin | oh, 'lo SanMehat by the way |
17:16.51 | SmallR2003 | i have to go and talk to tmobile so they replace my hermes with a brand new one |
17:17.54 | NetRipper | what's wrong with it |
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17:23.33 | SmallR2003 | camera's a little dodgy, stylus wont stay in, keys are being a bit funny at times |
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17:25.30 | ALoGeNo | lo all.. |
17:25.44 | NetRipper | hehe ok, i dont have a prob with stylus or keys, but htc camera's suck, in general |
17:25.47 | NetRipper | :p |
17:25.49 | ALoGeNo | anyone that give me a hand with debootstrap debian? |
17:26.00 | ALoGeNo | cant init the bash console |
17:26.13 | ALoGeNo | and i put that in the default.txt |
17:26.24 | ALoGeNo | the hda2 is has been mounted |
17:26.33 | SmallR2003 | well, the camera just doesn't take the photo's it used to be |
17:26.35 | Marajin | SmallR2003: they don't sell hermes anymore though.. |
17:26.41 | SmallR2003 | hmmm |
17:26.48 | Marajin | might give you a kaiser |
17:26.51 | SmallR2003 | so might tmobile replace it with a newer phone? |
17:26.56 | SmallR2003 | nice :) |
17:26.56 | ALoGeNo | hey Marajin afternoon :) |
17:27.01 | Marajin | hey ALoGeNo |
17:27.09 | SmallR2003 | that was my upgrade path till i saw the xperia x1 |
17:27.14 | Marajin | heh |
17:27.26 | ALoGeNo | how run your mni car? :) |
17:27.31 | SmallR2003 | then the g1 |
17:27.36 | ALoGeNo | mini* |
17:27.36 | Marajin | yeah the X1 and raphael are probably much better upgrades if you can afford them |
17:27.37 | SmallR2003 | now i'm torn :/ |
17:27.53 | SmallR2003 | i'm going for buying one of whichever at christmas |
17:27.59 | Marajin | heh |
17:28.07 | Marajin | dude by then you're only a few months off the next update |
17:28.21 | Marajin | HTC turn around is ~9 months |
17:30.13 | SmallR2003 | :/ |
17:30.17 | SmallR2003 | this is what i think too |
17:30.22 | SmallR2003 | i'm with tmobile uk |
17:30.46 | Marajin | yeah, they sell the diamond now see |
17:30.47 | SmallR2003 | and up until a few months ago i was going straight for the kaiser |
17:32.05 | SmallR2003 | my upgrade came around about june this year |
17:33.07 | Marajin | er, and you got a hermes? |
17:33.24 | SmallR2003 | i was going to get the kaiser but one of the tmobile people told me that the x1 was coming out around november |
17:33.36 | SmallR2003 | i got a hermes two years ago :p |
17:33.41 | SmallR2003 | (ish) |
17:34.55 | SmallR2003 | at which point i thought, 'well, it's another htc phone just packaged - as normal - by someone else, looks really nice' |
17:35.16 | SmallR2003 | ironically though, my priorities are changing, i used to need a phone which worked *anywhere* |
17:35.22 | SmallR2003 | now that's not so much of an issue |
17:35.54 | NetRipper | hehe a mate of mine got the t-mobile vario 4, it's indeed like the htc touch pro, just a bit more rounded at the edges |
17:36.15 | NetRipper | but funny, he has trouble using the brodit car holdes |
17:36.17 | NetRipper | holders* |
17:36.52 | NetRipper | on the t-mobile the stylus has a little plastic 'tip' on the side of it to take it out easier, but it keeps sticking behind the holder when he takes the phone out |
17:37.12 | NetRipper | he's been shaving it off with sandpaper |
17:37.41 | NetRipper | i guess it was funnier when he told me |
17:37.43 | NetRipper | :p |
17:38.21 | SmallR2003 | shaving with sand paper... :| |
17:38.28 | SmallR2003 | that's scary and funny |
17:38.53 | SmallR2003 | so, i'm intending to save the cash for around christmas to buy another phone |
17:39.17 | NetRipper | so you'd get sim only instead? |
17:41.13 | SmallR2003 | to be honest, tmobile owe me a phone, and that probably wont cost too much, right? |
17:41.27 | SmallR2003 | but i might buy a sim free phone from somewhere else |
17:41.58 | SmallR2003 | i'm a total qwerty whore, so i need that keyboard |
17:42.58 | Marajin | I've shaved with a penknife before |
17:43.06 | Marajin | admittedly it was a leatherman and very very sharp |
17:43.29 | Marajin | SmallR2003: It depends what contract you agree to |
17:46.00 | dcordes_ | NetRipper: thanks |
17:48.53 | SmallR2003 | i'm on a rather heavy one |
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17:49.14 | SmallR2003 | flex 35 and the highest web'n'walk package |
17:49.22 | SmallR2003 | i pay about £55 |
17:51.49 | NetRipper | SmallR2003 you could try to get a deal with t-mobile, you send in your hermes cos its broken and see if you can get another phone for just a good offer |
17:52.03 | NetRipper | getting a deal like that usually saves a lot of money |
17:52.21 | NetRipper | they just want to keep their customer |
17:53.46 | Marajin | SmallR2003: 55 quid a month and you're out of your minimum contract?! they should have dropped it by like 30 quid |
17:54.15 | SmallR2003 | apparently they'll replace the phone for free |
17:54.24 | SmallR2003 | (i phoned upgrades) |
17:54.35 | Marajin | well yeah, at that tariff you already paid for it dude |
17:56.37 | Marajin | I know o2 do it so if you pass your contract date and are 'due for upgrade' they knock like 30 quid off your contract until you upgrade |
17:56.45 | SmallR2003 | hmmm |
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17:57.41 | SmallR2003 | this is what upgrades told me: 'take your phone in and ask for the to repair it, they'll replace it. when you have the money to buy the new phone then just ask for an upgrade.' |
17:57.51 | SmallR2003 | then they advised me to wait for the X1 |
17:57.58 | Marajin | if you're on that tariff you'd get an X1 or a Diamond for free |
17:58.06 | NetRipper | hehe indeed |
17:58.16 | Marajin | Pretty sure O2 will do the diamond for free at about 40 / month |
17:58.26 | NetRipper | but uk prices are just high |
17:58.41 | Marajin | NetRipper: compared to some, we're not really. |
17:58.50 | NetRipper | compared to netherlands, you are |
17:58.55 | Marajin | I pay 40/month for 1500 minutes/500 SMS/Unlimited data |
17:59.06 | Marajin | and they reduce my ADSL by 5 a month too |
17:59.06 | NetRipper | and web? |
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17:59.16 | Marajin | NetRipper: Unlimited data == web |
17:59.19 | NetRipper | oh right |
17:59.27 | NetRipper | i should get more sleep |
17:59.30 | Marajin | I mean unlimited 3G data transfer |
17:59.37 | NetRipper | yes that's nice |
17:59.42 | Marajin | and my town is HSUPA enabled |
18:00.22 | NetRipper | what do you se HSUPA for |
18:00.33 | Marajin | pardon? |
18:00.36 | NetRipper | it's here too in some areas but i find no use for it |
18:00.40 | Marajin | oh you mean use? |
18:00.41 | Marajin | heh |
18:00.44 | NetRipper | use hehe |
18:00.45 | Marajin | much lower latency |
18:00.46 | NetRipper | typo |
18:00.52 | Marajin | I can get it down to 100ms or less I think |
18:01.58 | NetRipper | hm ok i havent measured my hsdpa |
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18:02.39 | Marajin | HSDPA and HSUPA are different |
18:02.45 | Marajin | UPA is the lower latency I think |
18:03.03 | SmallR2003 | <3 HSDPA/HSUPA |
18:03.08 | NetRipper | i thought UPA was mainly for upload transfer rate |
18:03.13 | NetRipper | dont know about latency differences |
18:03.25 | Marajin | nah it's definitely latency improvements |
18:03.29 | SmallR2003 | i have a novatel modem for being out and about |
18:03.32 | NetRipper | and i haven't found a use for a high upload transfer rate for phones |
18:03.35 | Marajin | HSDPA modems generally get pretty high.. 200ms ish |
18:03.36 | SmallR2003 | unfortunately both my laptops commited suicide |
18:04.03 | NetRipper | thinks back on his 33k6 |
18:04.09 | Marajin | hah :P |
18:04.20 | NetRipper | :p |
18:04.52 | NetRipper | SmallR2003, they couldn't handle the speed? |
18:05.04 | Marajin | my laptop melted too a little while ago |
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18:07.21 | SmallR2003 | something like that |
18:11.08 | SmallR2003 | one of them took a shot from the mains power |
18:15.00 | SmallR2003 | the other was just old |
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18:31.59 | cr2 | NetRipper: i've added bank5 gpios to wiki. you can modify the .py |
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18:45.21 | Marajin | yo dcordes |
18:51.07 | NetRipper | cr2, do i also add these regs to the 7X00A haret init? |
18:51.32 | NetRipper | and what are stat5 and clr_irqerr5, haven't seen stat and irqerr before |
18:54.32 | cr2 | +0x89c clr_irqerr4 |
18:54.45 | cr2 | is in kaisermemorymap |
18:54.50 | NetRipper | i see indeed |
18:54.52 | cr2 | but it's not so interesting |
18:55.01 | NetRipper | not all gpios are in the .py or init script |
18:55.12 | cr2 | add the in/out |
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18:55.28 | NetRipper | and out_en and intr_en |
18:55.34 | cr2 | ok |
18:55.42 | NetRipper | to be consistent |
18:55.44 | NetRipper | :P |
18:55.48 | cr2 | 107,108, and 109 can be probably seen |
18:56.19 | NetRipper | by adding the stat and irqerr anyway, does it get confusing when looking at output? |
18:56.22 | NetRipper | or doesnt it matter? |
18:56.24 | cr2 | ok, so it should be possible to trace gpios now |
18:56.33 | cr2 | don#t add them |
18:56.35 | NetRipper | ok |
18:57.13 | cr2 | the only spamming gpio i have seen is 97 |
18:57.13 | NetRipper | i'll check if there are some kaiser in/outs missing |
18:57.49 | cr2 | 'ibit gpios' will mask it from the output |
18:58.14 | NetRipper | haret and haretconsole @ www.netripper.nl/raphael |
18:58.51 | NetRipper | used the memory map as reference |
19:03.22 | cr2 | no bank5 regs ? |
19:04.22 | cr2 | ramaddr setting may be interesting |
19:04.36 | cr2 | i guess allocphysmem will allocate from the 0x1* area |
19:05.00 | cr2 | can you try to boot something ? |
19:08.24 | NetRipper | bank5 regs are there |
19:08.27 | NetRipper | you dont see htem? |
19:08.57 | cr2 | no |
19:09.19 | NetRipper | open the .py file, you should see them |
19:09.24 | NetRipper | and they should be in showvar gpios |
19:09.29 | cr2 | in the .cpp file |
19:09.42 | cr2 | in the patch |
19:09.52 | NetRipper | i havent updated the patch |
19:09.59 | NetRipper | just the .exe and console.tar.gz |
19:10.33 | cr2 | ok |
19:10.46 | NetRipper | but the .cpp is nothing more than that it sets gpios via script commands on startup |
19:10.55 | cr2 | yes |
19:11.04 | NetRipper | give me a sec |
19:11.10 | NetRipper | btw |
19:11.26 | NetRipper | are the irq addresses fine? it seemed to me irqs weren't disabled properly |
19:11.46 | cr2 | Detected machine Raphael/MSM7201A (Plat='PocketPC' OEM='HTC Touch Pro T7272') |
19:12.05 | cr2 | we should check with the android source |
19:12.16 | NetRipper | you want a zImage to try with? |
19:12.46 | NetRipper | got it to compile by disabling EABI, not sure what EABI is, but it wasn't needed for my hermes :p |
19:14.03 | cr2 | boot params: RAMADDR=20000000 RAMSIZE=06400000 MTYPE=1910 CMDLINE='root=/dev/ram0 ro console=tty0' |
19:14.09 | cr2 | which zimage ? |
19:14.33 | NetRipper | btw the 'set ramaddr' and 'set ramsize' are in the mach-list.txt, instead of in the .cpp |
19:14.52 | NetRipper | i build a zImage yesterday based on the latest for-rmk branch on android git tree |
19:14.58 | cr2 | why did you disable eabi ? which toolchain are you using ? |
19:15.01 | cr2 | hmm. |
19:15.21 | NetRipper | using a prebuilt arm toolchain, but it wasnt built with eabi support |
19:15.24 | NetRipper | which is why ;) |
19:15.26 | cr2 | is everything from android branch included there ? |
19:15.27 | cr2 | ok |
19:15.33 | NetRipper | sec |
19:15.40 | cr2 | you may pick the qtopia toolchain |
19:15.45 | cr2 | it has eabi |
19:15.52 | NetRipper | the for-rmk is most up to date branch afaik |
19:16.07 | NetRipper | ok, i'll try that later |
19:16.21 | cr2 | i think halibut from android branch is not bad too. |
19:16.33 | cr2 | but we will certainly get a problem with the LCD |
19:17.11 | NetRipper | zImage on that link too |
19:17.31 | NetRipper | it boots on my hermes without eabi, so i didn't htink it was that important :p |
19:17.39 | cr2 | hm. interesting |
19:17.55 | NetRipper | not the same image obviously, as its not msm |
19:18.02 | cr2 | HaRET(2)# alloctest 100 |
19:18.06 | cr2 | pg#: <virt> <phys> |
19:18.06 | cr2 | 000: 63000000 2431f000 |
19:18.07 | cr2 | 001: 63001000 2431e000 |
19:18.07 | cr2 | 002: 63002000 2431d000 |
19:18.07 | cr2 | 003: 63003000 2431c000 |
19:18.07 | cr2 | 0 |
19:18.23 | cr2 | eabi is not a problem for the kernel itself. |
19:18.38 | cr2 | the allocations are in the 0x2* area |
19:18.53 | NetRipper | set ramaddr to 0x2* |
19:19.01 | NetRipper | and ramsize to 0x64 |
19:19.23 | cr2 | i've run 'alloctest 10000' |
19:19.34 | cr2 | 10000*4096= 40MB |
19:20.03 | cr2 | 9999: 6870f000 217ec000M |
19:20.58 | cr2 | 000: 63000000 2431f000M |
19:21.11 | cr2 | from top to bottom |
19:21.21 | NetRipper | that's not so strange is it, that's what the MMU is for |
19:21.30 | NetRipper | it can place it anywhere it wants |
19:21.47 | cr2 | Failed to allocate 40000 pages (code 8) |
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19:22.29 | cr2 | alloctest 30000 |
19:22.33 | cr2 | goes down to |
19:22.35 | cr2 | 29999: 6d52f000 12373000 |
19:22.59 | imfloflo | hi all |
19:23.48 | cr2 | wi 10 |
19:23.57 | cr2 | does not show any irqs. that's strange |
19:24.02 | cr2 | it works on kaiser |
19:24.07 | cr2 | something must be wrong. |
19:24.20 | NetRipper | yes irqs seem wrong |
19:24.46 | NetRipper | irqs are not disabled when haret tries to boot |
19:24.59 | NetRipper | i can sometimes even see the volume or other icons being refreshed on top of my cleared framebuffer |
19:25.13 | NetRipper | i.e. wince still doing stuff |
19:25.43 | cr2 | hmm. what about the flashlight gpio ? |
19:26.09 | cr2 | for debugging |
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19:26.29 | cr2 | i don't see anything else |
19:27.10 | NetRipper | Handled 589 irq, 5105 abort, 6346 prefetch, 0 lost, 0 errors |
19:35.23 | cr2 | i'll copy the kaiserirq page |
19:37.01 | NetRipper | oh btw, that haret is full of my test code, it wouldn't even boot if it could |
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19:37.23 | NetRipper | let me fix that hehe, though i already see it wouldn't matter ;) |
19:38.43 | cr2 | i see offset 10,40 and 64 (all hex) to VIC |
19:38.46 | cr2 | in wince |
19:42.13 | NetRipper | just removed my test crap from haret.exe, updated on site.. it won't bother you unless you try to boot linux |
19:45.20 | NetRipper | anyone know some good IDE's for c/c++ on linux? i tried kdevelop, geany and anjuta but they all kinda suck |
19:46.41 | NetRipper | Kevin2, did you use an IDE when writing haret? if so, which? (after you switched from vs2k5) ;) |
19:47.25 | cr2 | NetRipper: capacitive sensor |
19:47.31 | NetRipper | Kevin2, and i'll let you know when a proper patch is ready... and the 7201a wasn't aliased as new gpios were anticipated |
19:47.52 | NetRipper | cr2, what's up with it? |
19:47.53 | NetRipper | :) |
19:48.10 | NetRipper | sometimes i just have no idea what you're on about :P |
19:48.49 | cr2 | the keypad has the capacitive sensor |
19:49.22 | NetRipper | the bottom part with the d-pad |
19:49.22 | cr2 | i'm looking at the wince irq handler |
19:49.31 | cr2 | yes |
19:49.50 | NetRipper | yep i know it has it |
19:49.54 | NetRipper | in fact, there are 3 |
19:50.03 | NetRipper | or at least, it's divided into three areas |
19:50.16 | NetRipper | corrects his abuse of the words 'in fact' |
19:50.25 | NetRipper | as im not 100% |
19:50.51 | cr2 | 49 is DCOMPASS irq |
19:51.22 | NetRipper | raphael has compass? |
19:52.11 | NetRipper | i see, those irqs are documented already |
19:52.23 | cr2 | wince says so |
19:59.34 | cr2 | not bad. |
19:59.45 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Raphael_IRQ |
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20:04.20 | cr2 | yes, this is a complete wince kernel irq list |
20:05.08 | NetRipper | ok so we probably need to add some specific preshutdown and shutdown code in the msm7201a classes of haret |
20:05.56 | NetRipper | to disable irqs |
20:06.26 | NetRipper | and i.e. for samsung or omap they also disable DMA |
20:06.39 | cr2 | yes, the dma controller |
20:06.48 | NetRipper | and reset irqs |
20:06.49 | cr2 | and the usb host controller |
20:07.54 | NetRipper | how do you get the address of an irq? when looking at the Raphael_IRQ list |
20:08.51 | cr2 | i'm looking at the irq handler |
20:08.57 | cr2 | irq address ? |
20:09.47 | NetRipper | i also dont see how you get the address of a gpio |
20:09.48 | NetRipper | i know the base address of MSM_GPIO1, but how do i get the address of gpio 100 for example |
20:09.48 | cr2 | in haret ? |
20:10.25 | NetRipper | that in5 and out5 stuff, that's just a gpio, or isn't it? |
20:10.26 | cr2 | it#s tricky |
20:10.36 | cr2 | it's a gpio bank |
20:10.54 | cr2 | certain bits (lower) are assigned to gpio numbers |
20:11.07 | cr2 | some upper bits are unused |
20:11.20 | cr2 | it#s documented in the _GPIO page |
20:11.49 | cr2 | see the 'bank' and 'bit' columns |
20:12.05 | NetRipper | yes |
20:12.47 | NetRipper | so, im looking at gpio102, wifi pwr1 |
20:12.50 | NetRipper | it's part of bank 4 |
20:13.21 | NetRipper | but how do i know what address to use in haret |
20:13.31 | NetRipper | addlist gpio p2v(...) |
20:13.57 | NetRipper | bank1 starts at a9200000, that's the base i presume |
20:14.54 | cr2 | yes |
20:15.07 | NetRipper | so how do know where bank4 is |
20:15.07 | cr2 | why it's a problem ? |
20:15.15 | cr2 | ok |
20:15.27 | cr2 | docimented in kaisermemorymap |
20:15.29 | NetRipper | and, specifically, how do i know where my gpio102 is |
20:15.37 | cr2 | i was lazy to copy the wiki entries |
20:16.02 | NetRipper | ok, so i look at the "in4", then i have the input gpio's for bank4, right? |
20:16.24 | cr2 | yes |
20:16.41 | NetRipper | in that case bank4 is at a9200840 |
20:16.49 | cr2 | probably |
20:17.41 | NetRipper | then, does haret have a mean of setting bit 7 (gpio102) to a specific value? |
20:17.55 | NetRipper | which would allow me to enable/disable wifi |
20:18.12 | NetRipper | assuming it works that way |
20:18.13 | NetRipper | :) |
20:18.50 | NetRipper | hm |
20:18.58 | NetRipper | so you read a bank at a time |
20:19.18 | NetRipper | interpret it bitwise with logical ands |
20:19.35 | cr2 | hmm. i see 5 virtual mappings for VIC |
20:19.51 | cr2 | p2v picks only one |
20:20.05 | cr2 | it may explain why we don't see the interrupts |
20:20.24 | cr2 | 50203000 |
20:20.27 | NetRipper | 1 virtual address for 5 logical addresse? |
20:20.30 | cr2 | 50305000 |
20:20.32 | NetRipper | or the other way around |
20:20.42 | cr2 | 55702000 |
20:20.50 | cr2 | 59402000 |
20:20.53 | NetRipper | hm |
20:20.55 | cr2 | 5e302000 |
20:21.03 | cr2 | 5 virtual for 1 physical |
20:21.18 | cr2 | and the 9/b53* |
20:21.28 | cr2 | 7 mappings... |
20:21.53 | cr2 | i'll try manually |
20:22.08 | cr2 | HaRET(1)# show irqs |
20:22.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
20:22.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
20:22.17 | cr2 | addlist irqs ... |
20:23.43 | cr2 | _yes_ :) |
20:23.52 | cr2 | 004.898 IRQS 5e302000(202)=400 |
20:24.07 | cr2 | the real handler uses 0x5e302000 mapping |
20:24.15 | cr2 | please, change the code |
20:24.21 | NetRipper | what do i change |
20:24.34 | cr2 | one should be very careful with p2v() |
20:24.58 | cr2 | or p2v() should be done (extended) for multiple mappings |
20:25.07 | cr2 | p2ve() or something like that |
20:25.22 | NetRipper | so that it adds all resulting mappings? |
20:25.32 | cr2 | p2v(0xc0000000) to 0x5e302000 |
20:25.42 | cr2 | we need to talk to Kevin2 |
20:26.05 | cr2 | try yourself |
20:26.08 | cr2 | addlist irqs 0x5e302000 0x100 32 0 |
20:26.10 | cr2 | and then |
20:26.12 | cr2 | wi 5 |
20:26.39 | cr2 | the .py should be adjusted too |
20:26.57 | NetRipper | the virtual address isn't the same for my device |
20:27.26 | NetRipper | it hangs my device hehe |
20:28.27 | cr2 | check 'dump mmu' |
20:28.36 | cr2 | and grep for c0000000 |
20:32.01 | NetRipper | sec |
20:32.46 | NetRipper | ok |
20:32.51 | NetRipper | and which one do i pick |
20:33.38 | NetRipper | or can i add them all |
20:34.27 | cr2 | try them all |
20:36.53 | NetRipper | i have 7 |
20:38.17 | cr2 | ok |
20:40.32 | NetRipper | i dont see something special happen when i type wi 5 |
20:40.56 | NetRipper | first 'watching...' for all irqs |
20:41.00 | cr2 | with all 7 addresses added to irqs ? |
20:41.11 | NetRipper | then after finishing installing it shows all irqs once |
20:41.15 | NetRipper | then its quiet for 5 seconds |
20:41.17 | NetRipper | then it uninstalls them |
20:41.23 | cr2 | strange |
20:41.27 | NetRipper | yes, added them |
20:41.37 | NetRipper | so i need to do something to trigger an irq? |
20:44.06 | NetRipper | cr2, http://www.netripper.nl/raphael/haret-irqs.txt |
20:44.54 | cr2 | strange |
20:45.19 | NetRipper | i'll try tod ump again |
20:45.27 | NetRipper | maybe something changed int he meanwhile |
20:48.15 | cr2 | ok |
20:50.22 | NetRipper | nope all seems ok |
20:50.36 | NetRipper | :( |
20:50.47 | NetRipper | im going to check the p2v code |
20:54.26 | NetRipper | lol i search p2v and my editor crashes |
20:54.30 | NetRipper | must be an omen |
20:55.33 | cr2 | lol |
20:57.00 | NetRipper | the memory commands were not built to return multiple values :r |
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21:00.53 | NetRipper | ok this is Kevin2's area, im going nuts with all those bitshifts and memory mappings |
21:04.54 | cr2 | ok |
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21:18.35 | NetRipper | cr2, you had keyboard working on hermes? |
21:19.06 | cr2 | with the Kevin2's kernel |
21:19.24 | cr2 | on linuxtogo git |
21:19.32 | NetRipper | aha |
21:19.32 | NetRipper | hm |
21:19.36 | cr2 | in some obscure branch |
21:19.45 | cr2 | don't remember which one |
21:20.03 | NetRipper | hehe |
21:20.12 | cr2 | we may backport it to -hh |
21:20.25 | cr2 | but there are some other minor bugs |
21:20.27 | NetRipper | that'd be nice |
21:20.41 | cr2 | the NAND timing needs some minor fix |
21:20.50 | cr2 | and we should fix the uart clocks :) |
21:20.56 | cr2 | the gpios are all documented |
21:21.06 | cr2 | so BT and phone (AT) will work |
21:21.20 | cr2 | the UMTS data probably too |
21:21.26 | cr2 | if the usb host is enabled |
21:21.31 | cr2 | like on the universal |
21:21.55 | NetRipper | cool |
21:21.57 | cr2 | these are all small tasks |
21:22.10 | NetRipper | then i can rub the dust off my hermes |
21:22.11 | NetRipper | :P |
21:22.15 | cr2 | just no experience with s3c2442 slows it down |
21:22.41 | cr2 | because the samsung docs are ... hmm... |
21:22.56 | cr2 | still better than msm, though ;-) |
21:23.24 | NetRipper | what msm docs? ;) |
21:23.33 | cr2 | msm docs == no docs |
21:23.45 | NetRipper | my point exactly |
21:24.20 | NetRipper | is it the hh.org branch on mobile-linux? |
21:25.37 | NetRipper | http://linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/hh.org |
21:28.03 | cr2 | dcordes: android is java on top of x11 ? |
21:28.49 | cr2 | NetRipper: hh.org patches - only ? |
21:29.08 | tmzt_ | android is not x11 |
21:29.19 | cr2 | NetRipper: master or work |
21:29.30 | tmzt_ | framebuffer, with SWAP ioctl for double buffering |
21:29.31 | cr2 | tmzt_: it runs off the framebuffer ? |
21:29.37 | cr2 | tmzt_: like qtopia ? |
21:30.37 | NetRipper | cr2, work, see it in history indeed |
21:31.27 | NetRipper | cr2, what are the symptoms on usage when timing and clocks are slightly off? |
21:31.39 | NetRipper | some keypresses dont register or something? |
21:31.50 | cr2 | http://linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob;f=drivers/input/keyboard/htc-spi-kbd.c;h=cdcdf9b0867b8f295d98c584006fd542c5573eca;hb=d91fc20daa29a554606d4c3e04459089d64bc1ac |
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21:32.11 | cr2 | where ? |
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21:32.37 | NetRipper | you mentioned NAND timing needs fixing and UART clocks as well |
21:33.05 | NetRipper | what are the symptoms for a user when it is wrong |
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21:37.01 | cr2 | mddi_read 0x150000 |
21:37.08 | cr2 | gives the lcd panel id |
21:38.02 | tmzt_ | new haret commands? |
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21:40.29 | cr2 | no |
21:40.57 | tmzt_ | someone was asking about triggering gpios from haret, to enable/disable wifi? |
21:42.39 | cr2 | it's cpu-dependent |
21:42.43 | cr2 | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMDDI |
21:43.13 | cr2 | 0x15000 is not there ? |
21:47.03 | SNAKE-AFK | hm neopwn thts this i wish for my universal. |
21:47.51 | SNAKE-AFK | http://www.neopwn.com/index.php |
21:49.37 | cr2 | hmm. KaiserMDDI looks very incomplete on raphael |
21:53.01 | NetRipper | tmzt_, i was |
21:55.12 | NetRipper | but it was just an example, wanted to understandt he concept of the banks and how to access a single gpio |
22:12.42 | SNAKE-AFK | ca anyone tell me where i can find packages for openmoko (on universal) |
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23:01.28 | bryan_ | Hey all |
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23:13.06 | wasup | hey DZO are you on here?? |
23:13.17 | wasup | i got a question about the onscreen keyboard |
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23:57.55 | Kevin2 | Hi |