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| 01:08.27 | errf323 | any change i could run linux on my htc touch? |
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| 01:31.02 | tmzt_ | errf323: which touch? what htc name is it? |
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| 04:03.50 | pigeon | the phone is actually called "htc touch" |
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| 08:14.03 | BabelO_ | morning |
| 08:14.16 | kiozen | ola |
| 08:53.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i m looking how can i access map size / data, i replace CUDA code by standard C++ and want to add a clean ui, so i look at ICreateMapGeoTiff |
| 08:55.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok theMainWindow->getCanvas() |
| 08:59.23 | ALoGeNo | ola kiozen |
| 09:01.15 | kiozen | hi ALoGeNo, looks like you had some success with your uni |
| 09:01.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: depends on what you want |
| 09:01.29 | ALoGeNo | yep ;) |
| 09:01.44 | ALoGeNo | the works like a clock |
| 09:01.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: just the visible viewport it's CCanvas |
| 09:02.08 | ALoGeNo | the wifi not at all, but run kismet airdump and inject ;) |
| 09:02.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: if you want the map its CMapDB::self().getMap() |
| 09:02.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: last time i reload the source file i need the real picture size, and access to pixel by pixel |
| 09:02.37 | kiozen | ALoGeNo: yeah, wifi is a problem on mst devices |
| 09:03.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, let me see... |
| 09:04.16 | ALoGeNo | well, now im with the mp900c, if that runs at the end can be more better than the uni with usb bosslan xD |
| 09:04.45 | ALoGeNo | but.. i see that a long in the future :) |
| 09:06.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: all maps are drawn to a pixmap buffer, however this is private to each subclas of IMap |
| 09:06.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: think I have to tweak the IMap API to give you access to the plain map pixmap buffer |
| 09:06.39 | ALoGeNo | kiozen: in any case i wanna try the bootstrap method to install debian in the uni :) |
| 09:07.04 | kiozen | ALoGeNo: you mean you want to change the flash? |
| 09:07.18 | ALoGeNo | nop.. hold a second.. |
| 09:07.21 | kiozen | BabelO_: I make the changes and tell you .. |
| 09:07.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes that can be better, and like cr2 says a time ago, now i work with the colour picture -> grey level -> bynary |
| 09:07.39 | ALoGeNo | wow i have firefox closed.. i need restore session :P |
| 09:08.00 | ALoGeNo | when i get the link i tell you kiozen |
| 09:08.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: you can make a copy of the buffer and do what ever you like ;) |
| 09:08.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: that's already ok, with my test :) |
| 09:10.04 | ALoGeNo | failed to set owner in haldaemon for /var/cache/hald (what is that??) |
| 09:11.27 | BabelO_ | ALoGeNo: hal daemon is the hardware detection daemon |
| 09:11.58 | ALoGeNo | what it say that of the owner? |
| 09:12.06 | ALoGeNo | what thats mean? |
| 09:15.00 | BabelO_ | ALoGeNo: maybe a specific group or user is needed for this daemon |
| 09:16.01 | ALoGeNo | okey i go restore the partition becose that is alittle corrupt after toomany test all the nigth |
| 09:19.04 | ALoGeNo | kiozen: check this out http://blog.gwright.org.uk/articles/2006/12/31/linux-on-the-htc-universal |
| 09:20.12 | kiozen | ok |
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| 09:21.48 | ALoGeNo | i have curiosity becose is the unique method that i didnt test |
| 09:22.00 | ALoGeNo | (is okey didint??) |
| 09:26.15 | BabelO_ | ALoGeNo: for TS i can suggest you to downlaod a GPE image and look in /etc/X11 forlder how setup is done |
| 09:26.54 | ALoGeNo | heh okey dokey BabelO :) |
| 09:27.27 | kiozen | BabelO_: svn up, CMapDB::self().getMap().buffer() will give you a pixmap with the current screen content |
| 09:28.19 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok thx, i have also the picture size ? |
| 09:28.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: ask the pixmap :) |
| 09:28.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok thanks |
| 09:28.58 | kiozen | BabelO_: your stuff should be a subclass of IDB, that implements the draw() method |
| 09:29.09 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 09:29.33 | kiozen | by that you can overlay your results |
| 09:30.18 | kiozen | ... damit next ceiling light broke, time to move into a new office soon.. |
| 09:30.28 | BabelO_ | lol |
| 09:30.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: I will end of the year :) |
| 09:32.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i think you lost me in the class and subclass, lol |
| 09:32.32 | BabelO_ | let me first create my test ui |
| 09:32.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: which one? |
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| 11:28.32 | snake_schule | wuha googlemaps runs fine on universal with Maxstegi's ROM |
| 11:38.40 | snakefreak | can anybody tell me the aktually hh.org kernel version? |
| 11:48.41 | errf323 | tmzt_: it's the diamond |
| 11:48.50 | errf323 | don't know the other name |
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| 12:03.19 | scatterp | wow this got a lot bigger than last time i was here :S |
| 12:03.40 | scatterp | any one know can give me some info just got a htc m3100.. /hermes.. |
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| 12:21.05 | snakefreak | anyone has a cabinet file ionstaller for debian eabi? so it runs out from img file on sdcard? |
| 12:25.06 | BabelO_ | kiozen: still around ? |
| 12:25.22 | kiozen | snoring |
| 12:25.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: sure :) |
| 12:25.52 | kiozen | they have glued me tothe chair |
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| 12:26.32 | BabelO_ | kiozen: do you have an idea why one of my Qt appliaction does not want to start as a root user ? was working last week :( |
| 12:27.06 | kiozen | lol, wait I have to search for my crystal globe ... |
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| 12:27.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: does not start means: can't connect to X, or segfault,.. |
| 12:27.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it wait for something ... and it seem all my qt application do same ... |
| 12:28.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no no, no fail, no segfault,just waiting |
| 12:28.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: any config file with bad access rights? |
| 12:29.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: with strace i see it start a AUTH_EXTERNAL hing and then wait ... |
| 12:29.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it does not want to run as root ... |
| 12:29.31 | BabelO_ | but works for all other user |
| 12:29.33 | BabelO_ | lol |
| 12:29.44 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i think it is apparmor related |
| 12:30.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: that sounds resonable |
| 12:30.35 | kiozen | but you shouldn't run GT as root anyway |
| 12:31.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no but i have made a small systray app to control asus eeepc and i need some root access |
| 12:32.06 | scatterp | hey BabelO long time |
| 12:32.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: yuck.. |
| 12:32.29 | scatterp | BabelO can you tell me what linux can do ion a hermes :) |
| 12:33.30 | BabelO_ | scatterp: hermes is not finished as far i know, kernel miss driver i think, better to ask cr2 or Kevin2 |
| 12:33.47 | scatterp | yeah cr2 is probebly the guy |
| 12:34.20 | scatterp | guess i got to wait for him |
| 12:46.55 | cr2 | hi |
| 12:47.32 | cr2 | hehe. a long tail of unsolved problems left behind is popping up again :) |
| 12:50.00 | scatterp | hey cr2 |
| 12:50.02 | scatterp | hows it going |
| 12:50.06 | scatterp | long time ... |
| 12:50.16 | scatterp | dunno if you remember me i had a universal before |
| 12:50.21 | scatterp | left it in a taxi :( |
| 12:54.28 | cr2 | scatterp: yes, i remember it. |
| 12:55.14 | scatterp | yeah i got an htc m3100 now |
| 12:55.18 | scatterp | htc hermes |
| 12:55.31 | cr2 | scatterp: i suugest to fix an easy thing first. the s3c2442 serial port config, so it'd be possible to talk to the phone, use bt and ir |
| 12:55.31 | scatterp | hows the situation with linux ? |
| 12:56.02 | cr2 | the ati SD is still a biggest problem. |
| 12:56.04 | scatterp | ok but how far from working is it ? |
| 12:56.43 | cr2 | nothing changed since some time. Kevin2 has written the keyboard driver |
| 12:59.25 | scatterp | oh any x runing ? |
| 13:01.09 | cr2 | it will run if you'll start it from ramdisk or nfs. |
| 13:01.35 | cr2 | the keyboard and touchscreen work afair |
| 13:01.40 | cr2 | kiozen: still here ? |
| 13:01.44 | scatterp | oh cool my other problem is this device is like a "mini" sd system |
| 13:01.57 | scatterp | i dont have any mini cards :/ |
| 13:01.58 | kiozen | wakes up again |
| 13:02.04 | scatterp | ill see if i can get one |
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| 13:03.28 | cr2 | scatterp: it does not work anyway. and it's "micro", not "mini" SD |
| 13:04.36 | cr2 | kiozen: i have a new idea for the resume on n560. you should run mmutrace on the SPL area (1-2MB RAM), and suspend. i#m interested if wince writes something there during suspend |
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| 13:04.58 | cr2 | hi dcordes_ |
| 13:05.10 | kiozen | cr2: ok, I try this evening |
| 13:05.16 | cr2 | dcordes_: a nice post for you - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2675441 |
| 13:06.05 | cr2 | kiozen: ok. for the battery monitor we need to modify some gpios, so i don#t have a clear idea how to arrange the things yet |
| 13:07.25 | kiozen | cr2: I am looking for a used loox, but 200 bugs is too much. maybe I am lucky and find a scratched one |
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| 13:09.00 | cr2 | kiozen: hehe. i wish we could flash modified IPL to it. |
| 13:09.46 | cr2 | kiozen: you may research the IPL update process for n560. afair from SPL it should be possible. |
| 13:10.13 | kiozen | cr2: not on the golden device :) |
| 13:11.15 | cr2 | searching for the jtag pins is a good idea too :) |
| 13:11.41 | kiozen | cr2: once i would know that I do not stress the battery while connecting the usb cable in linux, I would like to rugg it up |
| 13:12.44 | kiozen | cr2: but that means it's gonefor 4-6 weeks |
| 13:13.26 | snakefreak | can i use harret to boot a img file? |
| 13:17.43 | snakefreak | i maket a img from debian rotfs.ta.bz2 (renamed) with Qtopia-htcuniversal.exe |
| 13:17.58 | snakefreak | but booting stucks with a jumping to kernel error |
| 13:18.05 | cr2 | snakefreak: what is .img ? |
| 13:19.30 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, i have a problem with 76cx. i want to pick the waypoint, edit their names and descriptions (tags) and upload to osm. what is the best way to do it ? |
| 13:20.02 | cr2 | kiozen: i doubt merkaartor can do it. |
| 13:20.17 | snakefreak | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/Qtopia/ this files create a 100mb img file with rotfs in it. i have renamed the debian rotfs.tar.bz2 to qtopia.linux.rootfs.tar.bz2 the exe created the img file but boot failure jumping to kernel error |
| 13:20.50 | kiozen | cr2: don't know what osm needs. but ql can convert the into gpx |
| 13:21.19 | kiozen | cr2: thus if you are able to upload wpts as gpx you are fine |
| 13:23.12 | cr2 | kiozen: uploading gpx wpts is a real pita in osm ;) |
| 13:23.41 | snakefreak | cr2? do you understand |
| 13:24.52 | dcordes_ | hi cr2. thanks, that looks like a good idea. did you take a look at the strace of Xfbdev on kaiser yesterday? |
| 13:25.17 | kiozen | cr2: you want to talk me into osm upload, don't you? |
| 13:29.14 | snakefreak | anybody has a toolkit for making exe file loader like this: Qtopia-htcuniversal.exe20-Jan-2008 12:04 1.5M . i think it contains zimage startup.txt and haret.? |
| 13:33.27 | cr2 | kiozen: 'Save as ... *.osm' instead of .gpx will be enough for me :) |
| 13:33.53 | cr2 | snakefreak: i think Kevin2 has written this toolkit, so goxboxlive created these images. |
| 13:34.59 | snakefreak | do you have a idea how to boot a img with old way haret startup.txt and zimage? |
| 13:35.38 | cr2 | kiozen: otherwise i'm editing xml by hand in a text editor with search and replace ;) |
| 13:36.27 | cr2 | snakefreak: i didn't look into the details, i think this .img will be mounted -o loop |
| 13:37.09 | kiozen | cr2: any doc handy? |
| 13:38.46 | kiozen | cr2: what about mercator |
| 13:39.21 | kiozen | cr2: shouldn't their own software support such a little thing? |
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| 13:45.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: QPixmap& map = CMapDB::self().getMap().buffer(); like that ? |
| 13:46.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: just a "const" is missing |
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| 13:47.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i do to much delphi for today, need to switch :) |
| 13:47.48 | kiozen | BabelO_: delphi is bad |
| 13:48.24 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i know, i just got a new project with .NET , that is not really better, but newer |
| 13:48.53 | kiozen | BabelO_ is getting our C# specialist!!! |
| 13:48.58 | cr2 | LOL |
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| 13:49.13 | cr2 | BabelO_: this is a road to hell :) |
| 13:49.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: so mabe one day we can start that little .NET app we had a few days ago |
| 13:49.55 | cr2 | kiozen: the docs for .osm <node> </node> ? |
| 13:49.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: don't think :) |
| 13:50.08 | snakefreak | openmoko first boot |
| 13:50.43 | cr2 | BabelO_: .net binaries do not work in wine for me, so i hate them. |
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| 13:51.04 | kiozen | cr2: that is too simple for XML, usually you need heaps of senseless stuff to make it valid |
| 13:51.07 | BabelO_ | cr2: in wine they use mono, you can try directly with mono linux |
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| 13:52.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: synergy works very well :) |
| 13:57.46 | snakefreak | lol anyone can tell me how to close apps in openmokko? |
| 13:58.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: qt class are not so easy to work with pixel |
| 14:00.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: convert it to QImage and you have raw pixel access |
| 14:01.48 | cr2 | BabelO_: i've done rpm -e mono* |
| 14:01.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes that what i do last time |
| 14:02.40 | BabelO_ | cr2: i use wine-doors which pre install some .exe to let wine run lot of windoze software |
| 14:02.43 | kiozen | BabelO_: that is the recommended way. use the reference to pixmap to a create QImage as copy |
| 14:03.43 | kiozen | BabelO_: now you have full pointer access to the raw pixel buffer |
| 14:04.06 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i see that :) |
| 14:04.42 | kiozen | btw that is the reason why gt is quite fast, because gdal can copy right into the buffer |
| 14:05.26 | cr2 | kiozen: lol, so much for the object-oriented programming :) |
| 14:06.20 | kiozen | cr2: as the buffer is a pure array of atomic values I can't see any bad |
| 14:06.45 | kiozen | cr2: using an access operator for each pixel would be real overhead in this case |
| 14:07.26 | kiozen | sure Java Architects would do it different... |
| 14:10.43 | cr2 | :) |
| 14:11.29 | cr2 | kiozen: .osm xml is so simple, that nobody really takes it for xml (also because of the performance reasons) |
| 14:11.59 | cr2 | kiozen: so it's just some kind of obfuscated CSV for me ;) |
| 14:12.38 | cr2 | kiozen: i#d say .gpx is more complex than .osm |
| 14:14.08 | kiozen | cr2: and merkaartor does not know gpx import? |
| 14:17.48 | snakefreak | openmokko runs fine and has terminal mediaplayer is not working gstreamer decoder error. qtopia runs faster and have nicer look but no terminal and media also does not work.^^ its hard to find best. |
| 14:23.39 | dcordes_ | there is the tsdogs terminal for qtopia |
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| 14:28.10 | snakefreak | how can i install is it full terimnal? how looks the wifi stuff in qtopia? is it working? |
| 14:33.38 | Raketemensch | it looks like lgorris has stopped updating hsi tilt builds |
| 14:33.46 | Raketemensch | anyone know if someone else is doing them? |
| 14:33.52 | Raketemensch | s/tilt/kaiser |
| 14:34.31 | cr2 | kiozen: it's the generic .gpx -> .osm conversion that is not trivial |
| 14:35.17 | cr2 | kiozen: since you have the wpt data internally, you can save them in any format. |
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| 14:36.28 | kiozen | cr2: I just thought merkaator has tracks and waipoints, too, and as it's a tool dedicated to OSM it should be able to handle this |
| 14:39.06 | kiozen | cr2: My fear is if I put that into gt and this gets know to the OSM apostels I get loads of requests, why this can't support latest xyz feature of some peculiar osm api |
| 14:40.10 | kiozen | cr2: on the otherhand side there is a nice discussion about track recoding and processing |
| 14:40.18 | kiozen | cr2: in osm-dev |
| 14:41.38 | kiozen | cr2: the bad part about it is that the Garmin cheerleaders pretend that a Garmin track is perfect and accurate, just because it's their precious Garmin |
| 14:42.36 | kiozen | cr2: the good part is that I start to write the recording stuff for extended information in M |
| 14:43.20 | kiozen | cr2: thus post track processing will be a future option in M |
| 14:43.28 | kiozen | err... GT |
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| 14:47.42 | ale22944 | Hi all! I've just tried this: http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcartemis/qtopia/ on my artemis but got a big trouble, scrren briftness is very very low..any help? |
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| 14:49.42 | ale22944 | another question, does anyone know a good way to share internet connection between my artemis and fedora? |
| 14:49.43 | cr2 | ale22944: maybe you have a non-toppoly lcd ? can you check the lcd id in dmesg ? |
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| 14:50.17 | ale22944 | <cr2> please tell me were to find terminal |
| 14:50.21 | cr2 | kiozen: then you need some plugin interface for GT |
| 14:50.34 | cr2 | ALoGeNo: terminal ? |
| 14:50.45 | cr2 | hm |
| 14:50.47 | cr2 | ale22944: terminal ? |
| 14:50.50 | ALoGeNo | xd |
| 14:51.18 | ALoGeNo | sorry for the flood guys |
| 14:51.46 | dcordes_ | Raketemensch: I'm sure he will update the builds as soon as there is something to update |
| 14:51.51 | ale22944 | sorry i'm very new to linux on htc, i've got a good experience on laptops etc but not here.. |
| 14:52.28 | kiozen | cr2: yes, that is one of the many ideas, the problem with plugins is that you need to define a API, and I have no good idea how this should look like to fit future needs. |
| 14:52.39 | ale22944 | <cr2> please tell me how |
| 14:55.45 | Raketemensch | ah, ok |
| 14:55.53 | Raketemensch | i was afraid I was missing out on some goodness. |
| 14:57.22 | marajin | 'lo dcordes_ |
| 14:58.32 | marajin | Raketemensch: I doubt there'll be much goodness till we finally steamroller the dma bug :( |
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| 14:58.39 | marajin | dream's out tomorrow anyway |
| 14:58.44 | marajin | yo dzo |
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| 15:02.54 | BabelO_ | ale22944: you can go int qtopia -> settings -> light and adjust the brighness |
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| 15:17.18 | ale22944 | Babelo_: thanks, i've done!! =) any news about phone battery and wifi support? |
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