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| 01:52.39 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
| 02:01.43 | SanMehat | re: |
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| 06:23.28 | kring | any one has clue on send sms on vogue? |
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| 06:47.59 | tmzt_ | kring: with what software? |
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| 08:32.52 | BabelO_ | morning |
| 08:35.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: hi |
| 09:21.16 | lama | http://www.internettablettalk.com/2008/09/17/dr-ari-jaaksi-on-maemo-5/ |
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| 10:02.51 | cr2 | hi |
| 10:02.58 | cr2 | BabelO_: http://code.google.com/p/qtopia-ezx |
| 10:04.27 | BabelO_ | cr2: nice, but i have no motorola :) what gsm chipset it is ? |
| 10:06.15 | cr2 | BabelO_: does it matter ? |
| 10:06.50 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes, but don't think motorola use TI gsm :) |
| 10:08.05 | cr2 | they use their own neptune LTE chip. |
| 10:08.13 | BabelO_ | cr2: ok |
| 10:08.19 | BabelO_ | cr2: did you try latest GT ? |
| 10:09.42 | kiozen | did someone say GT? :) |
| 10:20.33 | cr2 | BabelO_: no |
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| 11:34.24 | dcordes | ginge, hi, seen the dzo git? |
| 11:34.41 | dcordes | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-vogue |
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| 11:39.14 | dcordes | it has working audio |
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| 11:56.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: anything you need in M? |
| 12:24.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: want to see the automatic maps rotation :) |
| 12:25.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: we need to set the writeback cache to 15s on our mobile device |
| 12:25.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol need a working sensor fist |
| 12:25.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: you mean for track recording? |
| 12:25.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you say that is ok with only GPS position |
| 12:26.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is just for fun, i download visualgps which have this feature, and don't found it usable |
| 12:26.30 | kiozen | is confused now |
| 12:26.34 | kiozen | what you mean? |
| 12:26.58 | BabelO_ | the map always point north |
| 12:27.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i think i drink to much wine ... |
| 12:27.39 | kiozen | lol, ahhh those french!!! |
| 12:28.27 | kiozen | but what about the writeback cache |
| 12:28.37 | kiozen | i ma not quite sure what you mean |
| 12:29.33 | kiozen | do you want to reduce the amount of track points, or limit the access to SD ram? |
| 12:29.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPS/default.htm |
| 12:29.49 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes limit flush cache memory to save power |
| 12:30.04 | BabelO_ | by default i think it is every seconds, have to cjheck |
| 12:30.32 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what are specific NMEA 0183 ? |
| 12:31.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: it's a bit better now, its every second if you travelled more than 5m |
| 12:31.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: okay adaptative technology :) |
| 12:32.09 | kiozen | and I want to skip points at a certain speed if the heading is not changing too much |
| 12:32.43 | kiozen | I think that is better than caching in the first run |
| 12:35.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you are doing software static nav, lol |
| 12:35.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: keep your loox for that |
| 12:36.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, but it matches the needs of a pedestrian, not a car |
| 12:36.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: Disclamer: QLandkarte M is not suitable for snails. |
| 12:36.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so what are the NMEA 0183 specifics ? have to search, say say professional needs |
| 12:37.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: it's just a certain nmea specification |
| 12:37.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: in fact the usual one |
| 12:38.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: http://www.gpsinformation.org/dale/nmea.htm |
| 12:39.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen:HCHDG - Compass output |
| 12:39.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: only if there is a sensor :) |
| 12:40.15 | BabelO_ | yes i understand |
| 12:41.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: garmin have it ? the etrex vista |
| 12:41.57 | kiozen | BabelO_: the "S" in the name stands for sensor. usually a compass and a barometric sensor |
| 12:41.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what about the profil view in M ? |
| 12:42.23 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, think that one of the next big things to do |
| 12:42.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: I just wonder where to do it |
| 12:43.06 | kiozen | on my loox there is loads of space left in the track dialog |
| 12:43.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: maybe a swtich between current information view and profil view ? |
| 12:43.40 | kiozen | BabelO_: but for smaller devices an extra page seems to fit better |
| 12:43.59 | BabelO_ | yes agree |
| 12:44.43 | kiozen | BabelO_: but for larger devices it's more key pressing with dialogs filled only 1/4th |
| 12:45.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what about GPHDT , do you think it is available on artemis and loox ? |
| 12:46.12 | kiozen | not on the loox |
| 12:46.29 | kiozen | usually you just get the 4 sentences i evaluate |
| 12:46.53 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 12:47.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: have to log the nmea output to see if i can do other thing |
| 12:47.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: void CNMEA::decode(const QString& line) |
| 12:48.12 | kiozen | simply save the line to a file |
| 12:48.40 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes i like your coding style, easy to read |
| 12:49.23 | kiozen | :) my brain is just not able to read complicated code |
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| 13:11.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i ll try next week to provide you a clean patch with automatic line detection for latitude / longitude and some other cool stuff. if i have time :) |
| 13:12.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, I am curious! |
| 13:18.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: line detection ( i ve done it with nvidia cuda ) , level line detection too :) |
| 13:18.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: cool, really looking forward to it :) |
| 13:18.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i have to do it without cuda, else not usable by everyone |
| 13:19.38 | kiozen | BabelO_: how did you integrate it into the GUI? |
| 13:20.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i add a "magic" button in the convert geotiff stuff |
| 13:20.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but code is not clever want to create a real plugin capabilities |
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| 13:23.25 | kiozen | BabelO_: What about using F7 or F8 from the main menu to switch to "More..." and to have a "Map Processing..." option there |
| 13:23.57 | kiozen | then you have the complete key set to trigger different algos on the map |
| 13:24.14 | BabelO_ | kiozen: why not :) my big problem was to get the bitmap struct of the map |
| 13:25.21 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes that is a bit complicated, especially if the map is several files |
| 13:32.59 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, added the azimuth change rule to track recording, have to test it later ... |
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| 14:08.27 | cr2 | BabelO_: accelerometer support in M ? |
| 14:13.59 | BabelO_ | cr2: no, few days ago, we are looking for some chipset pluggable on serial or usb for compass and maybe more |
| 14:15.44 | cr2 | raph100 has compass_irq |
| 14:20.58 | BabelO_ | cr2: what is this new phone, i look :) |
| 14:21.46 | BabelO_ | cr2: what happen to your medion device ? |
| 14:24.55 | cr2 | it behaves crazy, hangs at startup or blinks randomly |
| 14:25.17 | cr2 | i can't find the receipt so far to bring it back ;-) |
| 14:29.25 | BabelO_ | cr2: my artemis shutoff randomly too sometimes. it seem lot of peolple have this problem too |
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| 14:56.15 | dcordes | cr2, compass? |
| 14:56.34 | dcordes | that's not the accerlometers right? |
| 14:57.00 | cr2 | dcordes: that's how they named it. |
| 14:59.28 | dcordes | cr2, seen the vogue git? |
| 15:26.56 | cr2 | no. are there any news ? |
| 15:27.11 | cr2 | htc dream will have 64MB ram ?? |
| 15:31.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: fixed a few bugs in track recording |
| 15:31.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: svn is working now |
| 15:31.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i ve to go home and doing some road this evening, i update later :) |
| 15:32.43 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, just tested walking, curious how that will work with a car |
| 15:32.48 | dcordes | cr2, yes, dzo pushed a vogue branch to linuxtogo with sound driver added |
| 15:32.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: or a bike |
| 15:33.09 | dcordes | cr2, yea I think the dream has 64MB ram only |
| 15:33.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok i can compile it and do some test before going |
| 15:33.53 | cr2 | kiozen: what is the GT svn link ? |
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| 15:34.14 | cr2 | dcordes: and no umts. they are going the moko way. |
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| 15:35.07 | dcordes | cr2, maybe they want to see how the whole concept sells first.. |
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| 15:35.49 | cr2 | dcordes: moko said the same |
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| 15:37.14 | cr2 | imho it's a stupid idea: create an obviously underpowered phone, and then wonder about the results. |
| 15:38.49 | dcordes | I think in case of moko it is ok to keep the price low at the beginning so you get a lot of feedback |
| 15:39.06 | dcordes | think they sold some 10000 devices |
| 15:40.15 | dcordes | regarding the fact that moko is less popular |
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| 15:43.45 | kiozen | cr2: https://qlandkartegt.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/qlandkartegt/QLandkarteGT/trunk/ |
| 15:45.05 | cr2 | dcordes: they should have better used raphael |
| 15:45.19 | cr2 | kiozen: thanks, i'll compile it now. |
| 15:48.43 | cr2 | hm. |
| 15:48.45 | cr2 | CMake Error: Qt qmake not found! |
| 15:49.06 | kiozen | that is reeeeeal baaaaad |
| 15:49.57 | cr2 | Searching /usr/lib/qlandkarte for Garmin plugins |
| 15:50.20 | cr2 | do they use weird paths like lib64 on amd64 ? |
| 15:52.17 | cr2 | gdal-1.5.2 is still the latest. |
| 15:52.35 | cr2 | should i use cvs version ? |
| 15:52.44 | kiozen | 1.5.2 is ok |
| 15:53.03 | kiozen | you don't need the garmin plugins |
| 15:53.43 | cr2 | ok |
| 15:54.01 | kiozen | if you installed Qlandkarte from source they should be in /usr/lib/qlandkarte anyway |
| 15:54.18 | dcordes | cr2, where can I find the different init sequences for kaiser? those sequences of AT commands which have a V0, V1 etc id |
| 15:54.38 | cr2 | dcordes: strings rilgsm.dll |
| 15:55.31 | cr2 | kiozen: what is "georaster" ? |
| 15:55.37 | dcordes | cr2, ok.. I need them because I want to try make a msm720xx modem type for the python based openmoko frameworkd |
| 15:56.07 | cr2 | GDAL Oracle GeoRaster Plugin |
| 15:56.30 | cr2 | lol |
| 15:56.38 | cr2 | kiozen: segfault at startup |
| 15:56.46 | cr2 | must be some gdal problem. |
| 15:57.16 | kiozen | cr2: backtrace? |
| 15:59.18 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll compile proj-4.6.1 and recompile gdal |
| 15:59.50 | cr2 | *** glibc detected *** bin/qlandkartegt: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x0000000000817f90 *** |
| 16:00.11 | kiozen | cr2: don't use malloc ;) |
| 16:00.54 | cr2 | it's gdal, not me. |
| 16:01.00 | kiozen | lol |
| 16:01.46 | kiozen | cr2: no it's this General Protection, but I have never met him in person |
| 16:03.06 | cr2 | he has BSOD |
| 16:03.42 | kiozen | bah BSOD, who needs it if you have GSOD |
| 16:04.05 | cr2 | config.status: WARNING: GDALmake.opt.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting |
| 16:04.14 | cr2 | GSOD is M-only |
| 16:05.15 | kiozen | that's why M is better than anything else :D |
| 16:05.44 | marajin | yo |
| 16:08.16 | cr2 | kiozen: did BabelO compile M for wince ? |
| 16:08.45 | kiozen | cr2: not working as qtopia for wince is just qtcore |
| 16:08.58 | kiozen | cr2: thus it's more qt than qtopia |
| 16:10.01 | cr2 | ok |
| 16:11.55 | cr2 | hm. i've already seen this problem |
| 16:12.01 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.42 | kiozen | some 64 /32 bit mixup? |
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| 16:16.00 | cr2 | yes |
| 16:16.55 | kiozen | stupid path mess :( |
| 16:17.14 | kiozen | dinner, bbl |
| 16:17.40 | cr2 | lib64 is a mess |
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| 16:51.33 | kiozen | cr2: success or mess? |
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| 17:09.57 | cr2 | kiozen: can#t recompile gdal |
| 17:10.28 | ginge | dcordes: nice |
| 17:12.51 | dcordes | ginge, bad news is, X still shows the old problems on the kaiser. and somehow ppp doesn't work anymore, smd1 says bad file descriptor |
| 17:13.32 | ginge | dcordes: X wouldn't expect X to magically work. yeah, just noticed the smd problem |
| 17:13.58 | dcordes | also smd7 disappeared and is 27 now |
| 17:15.08 | ginge | ok, let me take a look at that |
| 17:18.18 | ginge | wowser I forgot to enable the IRQ for the smd1 channel in the entry macro |
| 17:23.28 | ginge | ok, now why did GPS change to 27?!? |
| 17:23.39 | ginge | didnt touch smd code |
| 17:24.39 | dcordes | I have no idea |
| 17:25.41 | dcordes | what's the entry macro btw? I have been wondering that before |
| 17:26.03 | dcordes | include/asm-arm/arch-msm/entry-macro.S <- that file? |
| 17:26.17 | ginge | yeah, that file |
| 17:26.43 | ginge | it sets the device up on boot |
| 17:26.47 | ginge | irqs whatnot |
| 17:27.04 | dcordes | the first thing the kernel does? |
| 17:27.07 | ginge | yep |
| 17:27.13 | ginge | well, one of |
| 17:27.54 | ginge | okay, smd works now. Just copy the .24 entry macro over the modified one and it will work |
| 17:28.12 | dcordes | k |
| 17:34.31 | dcordes | arch/arm/mach-msm/smd_tty.c |
| 17:34.42 | dcordes | } else if (n == 27) { |
| 17:34.42 | dcordes | name = "SMD_GPSNMEA"; |
| 17:38.35 | dcordes | changing it to 7 reveals it's not that |
| 17:41.16 | dcordes | the old entry macro didn't fix the modem |
| 17:42.28 | ginge | so smd_tty.c didnt commit by the looks of it |
| 17:46.07 | ginge | ah, doh and doh |
| 17:46.11 | ginge | try this: |
| 17:47.18 | ginge | http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m34b93eb3 |
| 17:47.53 | ginge | it was returning because it didnt match a channel. |
| 17:49.18 | dcordes | and leave the 27? |
| 17:49.35 | ginge | whatever. Basically just comment the whole block out |
| 17:49.51 | dcordes | ah that's in the part that the patch comments out.. ok |
| 17:49.51 | ginge | or put the smd1 channels in |
| 17:50.08 | dcordes | ok building |
| 17:50.27 | dcordes | any idea what I can try about X? |
| 17:50.59 | ginge | else if (n==1) { //I assume smd1 is 1 ...? |
| 17:51.00 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:51.00 | ginge | } |
| 17:51.00 | ginge | etc |
| 17:51.13 | ginge | easier to remove it for now |
| 17:51.30 | dcordes | I only put the patch now.. |
| 17:51.30 | ginge | dcordes: what is the nature of the X issue? |
| 17:52.23 | dcordes | it won't draw anything but the X background with the cursor pixmap and applications won't show |
| 17:52.31 | marajin | hey ginge, dcordes |
| 17:52.35 | ginge | yo |
| 17:52.40 | dcordes | and not even the background draws correclty always |
| 17:52.42 | dcordes | hi marajin |
| 17:52.43 | marajin | how's it goin'? |
| 17:52.47 | dcordes | good you? |
| 17:52.55 | marajin | heh |
| 17:53.06 | marajin | well I earned some money today, got home and someone promptly reminded me I owe them money.. |
| 17:53.16 | marajin | so I had to pay them back and now I've got nothing in my wallet again |
| 17:53.16 | dcordes | ha |
| 17:53.23 | dcordes | sucks |
| 17:53.47 | marajin | dcordes: yeah, but pretty typical |
| 17:56.03 | dcordes | ginge, ok with the comment patch smd1 works again |
| 17:56.11 | dcordes | gps is still 27 |
| 17:56.27 | dcordes | trying gprs now |
| 18:02.34 | dcordes | ginge, all good |
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| 18:03.07 | ginge | tty_register_device(smd_tty_driver, 27, 0); <------ change that |
| 18:03.54 | dcordes | ok took a note. I logged in to the kaiser now to try X abit |
| 18:09.37 | dcordes | hm when I try to run an application on the Xfbdev display, the terminal where I ran it dies |
| 18:09.41 | dcordes | I had that before |
| 18:10.09 | dcordes | in some way it seems to just be 'enough' to display the X background |
| 18:11.48 | ginge | have you tried allocating more memory? |
| 18:11.54 | ginge | and did you disable panning? |
| 18:11.59 | dcordes | panning is diabled |
| 18:12.28 | dcordes | yea, //#define PANNING |
| 18:12.34 | ginge | ok |
| 18:12.48 | dcordes | memory allocation is MSM_FB_SIZE? |
| 18:12.52 | ginge | yeah |
| 18:12.59 | dcordes | can it also be too much? |
| 18:13.13 | ginge | unlikely |
| 18:13.22 | dcordes | so I could just put in a cosmic value? |
| 18:13.37 | ginge | ok ok... |
| 18:13.47 | ginge | unlikely given ealistic values |
| 18:13.56 | ginge | s/ealistic/realistic/ |
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| 18:14.42 | ginge | I would be surprised if it needed more than the panning support allocates |
| 18:14.51 | ginge | considering is is 2+ times bigger |
| 18:16.12 | nicky90 | good morning, afternoon or evening guys (it depends on the jet lag, nope?) |
| 18:16.29 | dcordes | good evening here |
| 18:16.42 | ginge | nicky90: good evening here too |
| 18:17.04 | ginge | nicky90: good {insert time of day here} to ye. Arr |
| 18:17.26 | nicky90 | haah |
| 18:17.45 | nicky90 | excuse me I have a question ;) |
| 18:17.48 | nicky90 | what's the current state on the himalaya? |
| 18:18.31 | dcordes | ginge, 9b000 is that around 6mb? |
| 18:19.21 | dcordes | bbiab |
| 18:19.29 | ginge | no, more like 630ish k surely |
| 18:25.07 | cr2 | nicky90: somebody should sit down, and adapt the BA drivers. |
| 18:27.22 | kiozen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:28.54 | cr2 | kiozen: or give it up, and recompile on the notebook |
| 18:29.13 | kiozen | ok, dynamite? |
| 18:29.20 | cr2 | lol |
| 18:29.31 | cr2 | 5.7GB free on the notebook |
| 18:29.44 | cr2 | no |
| 18:30.10 | cr2 | 32GB free :) |
| 18:30.30 | cr2 | and if i'll emove windows, it's 26GB more |
| 18:30.58 | cr2 | my root is on the usb drive |
| 18:31.16 | cr2 | like on the usb host phones, like athena and n560 |
| 18:32.28 | kiozen | 58GB should be enought for GT |
| 18:32.45 | cr2 | hehe |
| 18:33.09 | cr2 | dcordes: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelMemoryMap |
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| 18:33.57 | cr2 | dcordes: the (pseudo-)ati FB seems to be a pita |
| 18:34.44 | cr2 | kiozen: recompiling. |
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| 18:35.02 | cr2 | i#d replace the 1GB sodimm with 2x2GB |
| 18:35.25 | cr2 | how much to the 2GB modules cost these days ? |
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| 18:37.18 | dcordes | size 60? |
| 18:37.18 | kiozen | close to nothing |
| 18:38.31 | cr2 | dcordes: 0x60 |
| 18:38.53 | cr2 | dcordes: 96MB, so i don't see 256MB of ram there. |
| 18:39.12 | nicky90 | excuse me, is or not the 2.6.12 latest kernel working on telephone (just to call somebody sometime...)? |
| 18:39.32 | marajin | nicky90: depends which phone.. himalaya? |
| 18:39.36 | nicky90 | yes |
| 18:39.47 | cr2 | nicky90: i doubt that .12 really works |
| 18:39.48 | dcordes | shouldn't it work in hh 2.6.19? |
| 18:39.55 | cr2 | dcordes: no. |
| 18:41.35 | nicky90 | I'll try the .12... |
| 18:41.49 | marajin | .12 is the last official release.. |
| 18:41.50 | marajin | how odd |
| 18:42.32 | nicky90 | there is a 2.6.3 |
| 18:43.44 | marajin | seems like an archaic port |
| 18:44.34 | nicky90 | ...and I don't want to mess up with a new zimage. I'm too young to die. Let me to register to the university at least. |
| 18:46.15 | cr2 | nicky90: it's the same as BA, just some gpios are different. |
| 18:46.58 | cr2 | nicky90: what is really needed is a wiki cleanup, so the gpios are documented properly, and match the code. |
| 18:47.54 | nicky90 | probably yes... |
| 18:48.13 | marajin | ginge: hmm, ginge, did ya know they have xubuntu on the vox before you curbstomped it? |
| 18:48.40 | ginge | before I did what? |
| 18:48.58 | marajin | accidentally placed your foot entirely too close to it |
| 18:49.12 | ginge | oh I see. no, didn't know that |
| 18:49.12 | ginge | damn |
| 18:49.31 | marajin | says it's bootable and gpe works |
| 18:49.32 | marajin | heh |
| 18:49.37 | marajin | dunno if calls were working yet though |
| 18:49.44 | ginge | weeps |
| 18:50.00 | marajin | all together now.. |
| 18:50.01 | marajin | whoops! |
| 18:50.44 | ginge | I feel better off with the wings |
| 18:50.45 | ginge | the vox really was a bag of shit |
| 18:51.07 | marajin | heh |
| 18:51.10 | cr2 | ginge: omap850 ? |
| 18:51.10 | marajin | maybe |
| 18:51.46 | ginge | cr2: yeah |
| 18:52.09 | marajin | febuary.. they booted linux on the vox in febuary |
| 18:52.36 | ginge | Marajin: it was a work phone so not like I could run linux on it all the time |
| 18:52.44 | marajin | no but hey |
| 18:53.00 | marajin | you could have linuxed it and PRETENDED you curbstomped it :p |
| 18:53.02 | ginge | when I say work phone I mean it was a pooled phone. 1 phone for 8 people depending who was doing what |
| 18:53.11 | marajin | oh god, that old lark |
| 18:53.19 | ginge | got my own phone now |
| 18:53.19 | marajin | when will they learn that just doesn't work |
| 18:53.31 | ginge | when they stop treating us as morons |
| 18:55.05 | marajin | when we stop being morons I imagine |
| 18:55.13 | marajin | but hey, it's more fun this way :P |
| 18:55.29 | ginge | heh |
| 18:55.33 | marajin | and don't go saying we're not morons, we buy HTC phones |
| 18:55.35 | marajin | we're morons |
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| 19:00.42 | cr2 | marajin: don't buy cheap htc phones. |
| 19:03.19 | marajin | cr2: The hermes and kaiser were 'cheap' ? |
| 19:05.30 | cr2 | marajin: hermes was ok. why is it bad ? |
| 19:06.11 | marajin | my hermes wasn't terrible though one of the internal connectors is dumb and is easy to knock loose if you drop the hermes |
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| 19:06.27 | marajin | I had to open my hermes one time to repair that. |
| 19:07.20 | cr2 | the major bad thing about hermes is the unfinished sd driver |
| 19:07.52 | ginge | hermes was poo |
| 19:08.06 | ginge | I had went through 2 repairs and then the radio failed |
| 19:08.14 | ginge | desoldered itself from the board |
| 19:08.23 | marajin | notes ginge is what you call a 'cursed person' |
| 19:08.28 | cr2 | hehe |
| 19:08.32 | marajin | dude, seriously, shit just goes wrong for you |
| 19:08.38 | marajin | I'm sorry but it's just you :P |
| 19:08.48 | ginge | its not that bad |
| 19:09.07 | dcordes | I'm going to get my kaiser repaired a second time soon |
| 19:09.26 | marajin | dude, in like one week, your new car was attacked by some hoodies, you were having issues with your new house, your broadband was sucking.. :p |
| 19:09.31 | marajin | dcordes: what's wrong with your kaiser? |
| 19:09.41 | kiozen | lol FSC really had the guts to address their "lousy gps" problem |
| 19:09.41 | dcordes | it makes funny noises |
| 19:10.01 | marajin | dcordes: So do ducks, what kinda 'funny noises'? |
| 19:10.08 | dcordes | I'm talking on the handset phone and suddenly it KRRRCHCHCCHHHHHSSS for 3 seconds |
| 19:10.10 | kiozen | now theiy ask you to download the almanach every 3 days for a faster fix :P |
| 19:10.15 | dcordes | also the other end hears that noise |
| 19:10.27 | kiozen | btw the loox is htc too |
| 19:10.49 | dcordes | but I destroyed it myself, no doubt. didn't treat it too good |
| 19:11.04 | marajin | dcordes: did you do an exam in guilt? |
| 19:11.23 | marajin | as long as you didn't stick it in the bath or hit it with a hammer, then it's not really your fault if it goes dodgy |
| 19:11.36 | cr2 | kiozen: isn#t it a software problem ? |
| 19:12.08 | dcordes | I know that sounds funny, but I dropped and at the same time kicked it away trying to catch it :) |
| 19:12.17 | dcordes | and it hit a wall not so smoothly |
| 19:12.24 | kiozen | they provided a fw patch for the sirf, leaving the com port to 57600 |
| 19:12.51 | kiozen | but the bad reception prevents fast sync. thus an artificial almanch seems to help |
| 19:13.07 | cr2 | kiozen: fw patch ? or new firmware ? |
| 19:13.15 | dcordes | still, although I don't have any comparison from my own experience, it seems not like the most robust device in the world |
| 19:13.28 | kiozen | seems so |
| 19:14.08 | dcordes | I'm out for a while, need to enjoy 10°C |
| 19:14.42 | kiozen | cr2: http://support.fujitsu-siemens.de/DE/support/downloads.html |
| 19:15.02 | kiozen | you have to struggle your way to the n560 |
| 19:16.52 | cr2 | 4x 6x and 7x ? |
| 19:17.25 | cr2 | N/c |
| 19:18.18 | cr2 | lol |
| 19:18.24 | cr2 | Nur offiziell freigegebene Betriebssysteme anzeigen |
| 19:19.47 | cr2 | maybe you'd ask them about a patch for linux :) |
| 19:20.34 | kiozen | or for the devices spec. after all they officially do not support it anymore |
| 19:20.52 | kiozen | it's a lame duck for them |
| 19:22.14 | kiozen | but anyway, the gps sucks even wit the patch, gps mouse has all satellites up, the built-in sirf only 4 :( |
| 19:22.14 | cr2 | ok |
| 19:22.41 | cr2 | yes, your bt gps was very good |
| 19:23.12 | kiozen | the i-Blue is really nice |
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| 19:31.24 | Raketemensch_ | i've had good luck with a holux |
| 19:31.30 | Raketemensch_ | but i love having it built in to the tilt |
| 19:32.06 | marajin | I have a solar + battery bluetooth GPS, I'ma use it with my UMPC |
| 19:33.03 | marajin | used to use it with the hermes |
| 19:33.15 | marajin | and of course the kaiser has inbuilt as you say, which works well for me |
| 19:34.01 | kiozen | most gps fit on the street, even the one built into the loox |
| 19:34.20 | marajin | the kaiser fixes inside the house for me |
| 19:34.23 | kiozen | the interesting part is below the trees |
| 19:34.42 | kiozen | and close to walls with loads of refelections |
| 19:34.51 | Raketemensch_ | it's nice to only have one device charging in the car |
| 19:35.19 | Raketemensch_ | plus I have the charger and the line-in to my stereo plugged into the kaiser |
| 19:35.27 | Raketemensch_ | so I can listen to MP3s and still have John Cleese telling me where to turn :] |
| 19:35.30 | kiozen | right, that's why it's such a pitty that FSC fucked up the sirfIII in their loox series |
| 19:36.00 | Raketemensch_ | ah, my holux is a sirfiii |
| 19:36.19 | Raketemensch_ | it's slow to lock at start, but works fine after that |
| 19:36.58 | kiozen | usually a good chip set, but if you forget the antenna it's not of much use |
| 19:46.41 | Raketemensch_ | heh |
| 19:48.39 | marajin | Raketemensch_: Please direct your vehicle in the direction opposite to the direction in which you are currently directing your vehicle..... now |
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| 19:59.10 | dwaradzyn | ginge: SanMehat: how is the work on sd dma issue going? can i be of any help? |
| 19:59.37 | ginge | dwaradzyn: well I didn't really have the time to look too hard at it, so do what you can |
| 19:59.48 | ginge | SanMehat: has a new driver that will be finished soon |
| 20:01.38 | dwaradzyn | ginge: is it confirmed that new driver won't have dma issue? |
| 20:02.21 | ginge | dwaradzyn: who knows. It is confirmed that it exists and should be the "right way" to do it, but as to how well it will work on our shitty hardware.... |
| 20:03.14 | Raketemensch_ | marajin: you may get out now, but I'm not going to help with your bags. |
| 20:04.29 | marajin | Raketemensch_: Did ya ever hear the ferry one? |
| 20:07.42 | dwaradzyn | (offtopic) i tried htcclassaction.org drivers on polaris and they somewhat worked, but i'm not impressed with performance (only a little faster than software "omnia" driver). how fast is it on kaiser? |
| 20:08.13 | dcordes | the thing that comes with the lights test app? |
| 20:08.20 | Raketemensch_ | nope, I guess we don't have enough ferries 'round here |
| 20:08.20 | dcordes | I think the light app went smoothly |
| 20:09.25 | dwaradzyn | ok, but lights.exe is very simple and goes smoothly with software rendering too |
| 20:09.41 | dcordes | odd, doesn't that miss the purpose of that test app? |
| 20:11.28 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: did you try some other test (ie billboard.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=105741&d=1218574625) |
| 20:21.10 | dcordes | no but I sure can try that |
| 20:22.00 | dwaradzyn | dcordes: thanks. on my device billboard.exe goes about 3-4 fps |
| 20:26.04 | SanMehat | re: |
| 20:26.07 | SanMehat | sorry i was codin |
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| 20:35.59 | cr2 | http://www.kionix.com/accelerometers/accelerometer-KXSD9.html |
| 20:40.58 | cr2 | i2c or spi. datasheet available |
| 20:41.57 | marajin | Raketemensch_: keep pressing the button for 'test' or whatever it's called in the voice selection menu, he'll say it sooner or later I think |
| 20:44.27 | dcordes | cr2, that's in raphael? |
| 20:55.53 | cr2 | yes. |
| 20:56.16 | cr2 | and the similar H2W spi bitbang driver. |
| 20:56.25 | dcordes | ok, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=RaphaelResearch |
| 20:56.45 | cr2 | thanks. |
| 20:57.03 | cr2 | the most important is the msm gpio page |
| 20:57.17 | cr2 | it seems that the cpld gpios are not mmaped. |
| 20:57.21 | miknix | hey cr2 dcordes |
| 20:57.35 | cr2 | or at least it#s nonobvious how they are accessed |
| 20:57.39 | cr2 | hi miknix |
| 20:58.20 | dcordes | do you know which cpld it has? |
| 20:58.28 | cr2 | dcordes: wifi is the same 1251 |
| 20:58.34 | cr2 | not yet |
| 20:58.50 | cr2 | touchscreen is tsc2003 |
| 20:59.08 | cr2 | bt has many *.bts scripts |
| 20:59.36 | cr2 | FM/RDS radio is accessed using HCI |
| 20:59.52 | cr2 | don#t know the model |
| 21:00.36 | dcordes | they use bluetooth internally to connect the FM/RDS radio? |
| 21:00.51 | cr2 | didn#t find the CAM on google |
| 21:00.52 | cr2 | yes |
| 21:00.57 | miknix | cr2, I reimplemented the i2c-cpld driver |
| 21:01.21 | dcordes | crazy, wonder why they didn't wire it directly to UART |
| 21:01.28 | cr2 | miknix: can you control the SD power now ? |
| 21:01.36 | miknix | cr2, yes |
| 21:01.47 | miknix | audio power also |
| 21:01.59 | cr2 | dcordes: maybe they transfer the FM sound over BT |
| 21:02.05 | dcordes | maybe bluetooth will be easy on the 7201A? somebody should try that on diamond/raphael |
| 21:02.16 | cr2 | miknix: nice. does the phone work ? |
| 21:02.28 | cr2 | dcordes: USB client is more interesting |
| 21:02.38 | miknix | I'll commit it to the tree in the next few days. If there is some "non-working" cpld you know about, maybe it works with this driver |
| 21:02.57 | dcordes | cr2, ok, marbalon tried it out (the exact halibut code, w/o changes) and he says it didn't work. |
| 21:03.01 | cr2 | dcordes: the ahi2dati looks like a software layer to implement older ahi interface. |
| 21:03.15 | cr2 | miknix: ok |
| 21:03.17 | dcordes | cr2, he says he's going to research usb on diamond further when he finds time |
| 21:03.37 | miknix | cr2, yes, phone works AFAIK |
| 21:03.44 | dcordes | miknix, wizard? |
| 21:03.50 | miknix | dcordes, yes |
| 21:03.53 | cr2 | miknix: battery monitor ? |
| 21:04.02 | miknix | none |
| 21:04.45 | miknix | right now I'm more interested on the power gpios |
| 21:05.00 | miknix | since it directly changes the cpld output logic |
| 21:06.00 | dcordes | ginge, did you see the sound code in the vogue branch? |
| 21:06.17 | cr2 | miknix: ok. |
| 21:06.17 | ginge | I glanced over it. |
| 21:06.19 | dcordes | ginge, maybe it can help you get the volume problem sorted |
| 21:06.38 | dcordes | (volume problem is my last state about kaiser audio) |
| 21:06.46 | ginge | busy debugging a robot that just made a hole in the wall at the mo |
| 21:06.56 | dcordes | :D |
| 21:07.20 | miknix | also, the wizard seems to be forgetting some interrupts |
| 21:07.33 | miknix | is it happening with some other device? |
| 21:08.19 | cr2 | dcordes: MT9D013 amd MI380. does it tell you something ? |
| 21:08.44 | cr2 | miknix: there were some minor troubles with asic3 irqs, but it's long ago |
| 21:08.53 | miknix | hum.. |
| 21:09.30 | miknix | cause imagine some device raises two interrupts when you press a key and when you release it |
| 21:09.46 | miknix | on the wizard the release interrupt sometimes does't happend |
| 21:09.49 | miknix | *happen |
| 21:10.00 | ginge | just disable interrupts and poll for it then |
| 21:10.21 | miknix | that's what I did, I caught press interrupts and poll for release |
| 21:10.23 | cr2 | MT9D001 (Micron Technology) - 1/2-Inch 2 Megapixel CMOS |
| 21:10.33 | cr2 | nothing about 013 |
| 21:10.38 | ginge | miknix: ah ok :) |
| 21:10.43 | ginge | goes back to lurking |
| 21:13.16 | cr2 | lol. 011, 012 and 014 :) |
| 21:13.17 | dcordes | cr2, maybe 13 is the same model with a bigger resolution? |
| 21:13.25 | cr2 | http://www.aptina.com/products/image_sensors/ |
| 21:14.08 | cr2 | T013 is 3 mpix |
| 21:14.10 | cr2 | http://www.aptina.com/products/image_sensors/mt9t013d00stc/ |
| 21:17.14 | dcordes | cr2, I will try and ask for docs. |
| 21:17.47 | dcordes | We have to keep our proprietary technology under lock and key, otherwise we would be giving away our secret sauce to the competition. |
| 21:17.50 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:18.18 | cr2 | dcordes: i think it's only necessary to register there. |
| 21:18.29 | dcordes | I will see, have my account now |
| 21:18.45 | cr2 | MT9T013 shows some hits at google |
| 21:19.17 | dcordes | sauce |
| 21:20.05 | dcordes | cr2, what is MIPI/SMIA ? |
| 21:20.16 | cr2 | dev board ? |
| 21:20.45 | cr2 | MT9T013 color 3Mp complete demo kit (MIPI) |
| 21:22.04 | dcordes | We're sorry, but you do not have permission to access this document. As you know, many of our documents contain proprietary information, so we have to keep them tightly controlled. |
| 21:22.50 | cr2 | hehe |
| 21:23.09 | cr2 | the cam gpio pins look like the kaiser pins. not surprising. |
| 21:23.43 | dcordes | so kaiser also has an aptia cam? |
| 21:24.28 | cr2 | don't know. |
| 21:24.46 | cr2 | the CIF on 7201A is probably the same as on 7200 |
| 21:25.03 | dcordes | what's CIF? |
| 21:25.14 | cr2 | 3A looks like flash gpio |
| 21:25.20 | cr2 | cam flash |
| 21:25.31 | cr2 | CameraInterFace |
| 21:25.36 | dcordes | ok |
| 21:26.11 | dcordes | do you know the model of the vga camera? |
| 21:26.54 | dcordes | oh, it's MI380 ? |
| 21:28.14 | cr2 | maybe |
| 21:28.57 | cr2 | (MI380) MT9V113 ? |
| 21:29.27 | cr2 | MT9V113(Mi380 non SOC |
| 21:30.21 | cr2 | MT9V113. Pixel array. 640x480 |
| 21:31.21 | cr2 | http://www.aptina.com/products/wafer-level_cameras/mt9v113m02stc/ |
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| 21:31.43 | dcordes | it has the limited datasheet |
| 21:32.42 | dcordes | do you know what reflowable means? |
| 21:33.26 | dcordes | the doc has a pinout |
| 21:34.35 | cr2 | for flow soldering ? |
| 21:38.22 | dcordes | ok just was curious. I put the cams in the wiki as well |
| 21:40.01 | cr2 | gsensor is i2c |
| 21:40.08 | cr2 | the same as athena |
| 21:40.25 | cr2 | hm. what is psoc |
| 21:41.06 | dcordes | Bei PSoC (Programmable System on Chip) handelt es sich um eine 8 Bit Mikrocontrollerfamilie, die von der Firma Cypress hergestellt wird. |
| 21:41.19 | cr2 | 3c and 3d are i2c pins. |
| 21:41.27 | cr2 | the same on kaiseer |
| 21:41.33 | cr2 | cypress ? |
| 21:41.34 | dcordes | shall I make a clean gpio table? |
| 21:42.01 | dcordes | Idk google spit that, it's from this wiki page http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSoC |
| 21:43.25 | cr2 | a clean table will be nice. thanks :) |
| 21:45.20 | dcordes | cr2, bank count and sizes match kaiser's? |
| 21:46.41 | cr2 | i think yes. |
| 21:47.18 | cr2 | btw, it'd be necessary to port the kaiser gpio handling to diamond/rphael |
| 21:47.36 | cr2 | the androids way is different. |
| 21:48.09 | cr2 | the msm gpios are treated in the same way as on kaiseer |
| 21:52.38 | dcordes | ok so only the cpld part needs changing? |
| 21:54.34 | cr2 | ys |
| 21:55.01 | cr2 | i dont see anything useful yet. |
| 21:55.18 | cr2 | 62-67 is SD |
| 21:55.26 | cr2 | the same as on kaiser |
| 21:58.15 | dcordes | so the kaiser values can all remain same there? |
| 22:04.58 | cr2 | the alt functions |
| 22:05.08 | cr2 | cif,sd,i2c |
| 22:11.24 | dcordes | cr2, is cif the "cam realted" entries? where is i2c? |
| 22:14.12 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/xWCk2q29.html |
| 22:14.57 | cr2 | dcordes: SDA/SCL is i2c |
| 22:15.03 | cr2 | cif is cam related |
| 22:15.08 | dcordes | ok |
| 22:15.24 | cr2 | *#2498# |
| 22:15.40 | cr2 | *#6743# |
| 22:15.46 | cr2 | what#s that ? |
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| 22:25.15 | cr2 | SD is at 0xa04* |
| 22:25.18 | dcordes | cr2, some AT commands? |
| 22:25.39 | dcordes | kringer told me about special service codes that put the modem in several modes |
| 22:25.42 | cr2 | and 0xa05* |
| 22:25.48 | cr2 | looks like halibut. |
| 22:25.53 | dcordes | great |
| 22:25.59 | cr2 | dcordes: mybe. |
| 22:26.09 | cr2 | kaiser SD is different |
| 22:26.19 | dcordes | I can ask him. he might have a list for the 7200 |
| 22:27.10 | cr2 | SD clocks are 144kHz, 12, 19, 24, 48 MHz |
| 22:29.17 | cr2 | hmm. atmega48 and atmega88 |
| 22:29.45 | SanMehat | re: |
| 22:30.00 | dcordes | SanMehat, how's the new sdcc? |
| 22:30.15 | cr2 | SanMehat: the A cpu has sdio at 0xa04* and 0xa05* ? |
| 22:31.07 | SanMehat | dcordes: its good.. no more polling.. all irq based.. dma looks good.. fixed up DMA for SDIO, and some other goodies |
| 22:33.03 | dcordes | nice, hope it will fix kaiser sdcc |
| 22:33.50 | cr2 | atmega* uses i2c too ?? |
| 22:34.01 | marajin | SanMehat: don't encourage him too much will ya? :P |
| 22:37.37 | SanMehat | marajin: :) hahaha |
| 22:37.46 | SanMehat | dcordes: maybe.. who knows :) |
| 22:40.39 | cr2 | hmm. there are some differences in the gpio ALT setup between kaiser and raphael |
| 22:40.56 | cr2 | the pins are the the same, but the setup values are different. |
| 22:51.53 | dcordes | cr2, is gpio 3A bank2, pin0 ? |
| 22:58.06 | cr2 | dcordes: i#ll fill them eventually. h2w pins, cam-related and so on. |
| 22:58.29 | dcordes | ok then I will put the map as I have it here now |
| 22:58.50 | cr2 | ok, thanks. |
| 23:00.47 | dcordes | ok saved |
| 23:01.05 | dcordes | cr2, did you see the blackstone? |
| 23:01.11 | cr2 | no. |
| 23:01.15 | cr2 | link ? |
| 23:01.56 | dcordes | it's the eyecandy 7201A http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1469 |
| 23:02.50 | cr2 | 3.8" 480x800 |
| 23:03.21 | dcordes | nods |
| 23:03.24 | cr2 | 4.9mpix |
| 23:04.00 | cr2 | it's big |
| 23:05.03 | dcordes | yea quite a brick |
| 23:05.19 | dcordes | I prefer the raphael |
| 23:05.42 | dcordes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eisadEADpwk |
| 23:08.21 | cr2 | heh. iphone colne |
| 23:08.42 | dcordes | check the video, the guys are funny |
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| 23:54.46 | cr2 | kiozen: *** glibc detected *** bin/qlandkartegt: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x000000000087cad0 *** |
| 23:57.54 | cr2 | Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 23:57.55 | cr2 | [Switching to Thread 0x7f68f14dc700 (LWP 16490)] |
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