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| 00:32.01 | mmmlinux | i was wondering if any one could give me some help? |
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| 01:06.28 | dcordes | mmmlinux, hi, what do you need help with? |
| 01:06.37 | mmmlinux | oh |
| 01:06.38 | mmmlinux | hi |
| 01:07.38 | mmmlinux | i was trying to boot a linux kernel (android) on my mogul. and it tries but then it tells me it cant mount an sd card |
| 01:08.10 | dcordes | a kernel for htc kaiser? |
| 01:08.53 | mmmlinux | im not sure which one it is. its a copy of android that other people have reportedly had working on a mogul |
| 01:09.19 | dcordes | so you did download it somewhere? |
| 01:09.32 | mmmlinux | yeah. |
| 01:09.51 | mmmlinux | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=341903&page=13 |
| 01:10.47 | dcordes | that's the vogue kernel |
| 01:11.00 | mmmlinux | i see.. |
| 01:11.04 | dcordes | you can use it on titan because vogue and titan are very similar |
| 01:11.25 | dcordes | did you get android.zip or android-new.zip? |
| 01:11.43 | mmmlinux | android-new.zip |
| 01:12.51 | marajin | dcordes: HAHAH, I put winxp on a virtualised machine on perses. Man it moves quickly :P |
| 01:13.11 | dcordes | hell yea, what do you use? qemu? |
| 01:13.33 | marajin | I'm gonna set up xen eventually but this is just virtualbox |
| 01:14.06 | dcordes | I remember babel saying earlier xen is good when you need to access pci bus stuff on special boards |
| 01:14.35 | marajin | yeah |
| 01:16.15 | dcordes | mmmlinux, did you read the explenation on http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ ? |
| 01:16.22 | dcordes | Update(24/7/08): ... |
| 01:17.59 | dcordes | brb need to change localhost |
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| 01:21.21 | dcordes | mmmlinux, seen the link? |
| 01:21.26 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 01:21.33 | mmmlinux | im not really sure that helps my problem |
| 01:21.54 | mmmlinux | it trys to boot, it just cant mount the SD card for some reason |
| 01:22.35 | mmmlinux | should i be using android.zip or android-new.zip? |
| 01:22.54 | dcordes | comes down to the same, new is newer :) |
| 01:23.31 | dcordes | so the first partition on your sd card has a fat filesystem? |
| 01:27.43 | mmmlinux | i dont know... |
| 01:28.03 | mmmlinux | when i try to boot. |
| 01:29.13 | mmmlinux | i get mount: nountidg /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 on /sdcard failed: invalid argument |
| 01:29.15 | mmmlinux | failed |
| 01:29.21 | mmmlinux | failed to mount sd card |
| 01:29.39 | mmmlinux | /bin/sh: cant access tty; job control turned off |
| 01:29.54 | mmmlinux | then i get stuck at a # prompt that i cant do any thing with |
| 01:30.31 | mmmlinux | your saying i need to partition the sd card some special way? |
| 01:35.40 | dcordes | did you put system.img and data.img on the sd? |
| 01:35.48 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 01:36.04 | mmmlinux | i just put everything on there... |
| 01:36.43 | mmmlinux | data, initrd |
| 01:36.52 | mmmlinux | system zimage |
| 01:38.16 | dcordes | hm maybe you should reformat the sd, or you are doing something wrong. read through the thread you posted and see how the others do it |
| 01:38.45 | dcordes | if it works for others you can assume it's not your titan hardware, nor the images |
| 01:39.00 | mmmlinux | is it possibly my custom baked rom has somethign to do with it? |
| 01:39.49 | dcordes | I don't think so |
| 01:40.24 | mmmlinux | or possibly the program i have that allows the sdcard to be mounted as a usb drive? |
| 01:40.31 | dcordes | I don't know of problems on vogue/titan that change with rom |
| 01:41.28 | dcordes | hmm that's also unlikely because linux initializes the sd card itself and doesn't need it in some state left by wince |
| 01:41.39 | ali1234 | if you get stuck at # prompy, then its not your hardware |
| 01:42.08 | mmmlinux | is there any way i can use the # prompt |
| 01:42.16 | ali1234 | try to mount it manually it might give more useful error message? i assume your keyboard works for this |
| 01:42.25 | mmmlinux | no... |
| 01:42.28 | mmmlinux | keyboard doent work |
| 01:43.11 | ali1234 | hmm does usb networking work on this hardware then? |
| 01:43.28 | mmmlinux | idk, im not really sure how to connect to haret |
| 01:43.30 | dcordes | ali1234, the kernel he boots doesn't have a keyboard driver/usb net/serial console etc |
| 01:43.49 | ali1234 | what format did you make the card? |
| 01:44.00 | mmmlinux | idk |
| 01:44.04 | mmmlinux | its fat32 i think.. |
| 01:44.16 | ali1234 | thats why then, it must be fat16 or fat12 i think |
| 01:44.28 | dcordes | mmmlinux, did other persons say they booted android-new.zip on their titans? |
| 01:44.57 | dcordes | ali1234, I doubt it |
| 01:44.58 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 01:45.01 | ali1234 | whoever makes these kernels should add fat32 support, it would save a lot of these problems :) |
| 01:45.14 | mmmlinux | waht format does my card need to be? |
| 01:45.19 | ali1234 | dcordes: why? fat32 is a different module, not always included |
| 01:45.38 | dcordes | mmmlinux, then just go try fat16 first |
| 01:45.51 | mmmlinux | ok.. |
| 01:45.56 | dcordes | ali1234, the main kconfig for vfat doesn't have fat32? |
| 01:46.18 | ali1234 | i dont think so. vfat is just the "long file names" extra fat for fat16 |
| 01:46.34 | mmmlinux | so should i format my card with fat16 |
| 01:46.44 | dcordes | just try |
| 01:46.47 | ali1234 | its worth a try |
| 01:46.51 | mmmlinux | ok |
| 01:47.00 | mmmlinux | i will need to copy stuff of my card first |
| 01:52.01 | ali1234 | hmm |
| 01:52.20 | ali1234 | im not sure this will work any more |
| 02:38.59 | mmmlinux | nope |
| 02:39.02 | mmmlinux | that didnt wokr |
| 02:39.04 | mmmlinux | work |
| 02:39.43 | ali1234 | does your SD card have a partition table on it? |
| 02:39.50 | mmmlinux | it should... |
| 02:40.39 | mmmlinux | vista doesnt have fdisk |
| 02:40.52 | mmmlinux | i dont know how to check.. |
| 02:41.08 | ali1234 | i dont know without using linux |
| 02:41.20 | mmmlinux | and dont yell at me for using vista, linux didnt play well with my laptop |
| 02:41.24 | mmmlinux | k |
| 02:44.44 | mmmlinux | i assume that because i copied the files to the sd card that it does infact have a partition table |
| 02:44.57 | ali1234 | not necessarily |
| 02:47.01 | mmmlinux | it has 1 primary partition |
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| 03:26.10 | tmzt_ | mmmlinux: you still there? |
| 03:32.43 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 03:33.35 | mmmlinux | hello? tmzt_? |
| 03:33.37 | tmzt_ | what path do you have for the root filesystem in default.txt/startup.txt |
| 03:33.53 | mmmlinux | they are just on the root of the sd card. |
| 03:34.05 | tmzt_ | what does the root= line say? |
| 03:34.10 | tmzt_ | set cmdline |
| 03:34.26 | mmmlinux | eh |
| 03:34.37 | mmmlinux | in default.txt? |
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| 03:35.33 | mmmlinux | i dont have a root= line... |
| 03:36.00 | tmzt_ | that /dev/block/.. thing is for devfs which is probably not used now |
| 03:36.21 | mmmlinux | what? |
| 03:36.58 | tmzt_ | in the log earlier, you might add a set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1" to default.txt |
| 03:37.27 | tmzt_ | invalid argument means the device doesn't exist |
| 03:37.30 | ali1234 | root is an initrd |
| 03:37.37 | mmmlinux | right... |
| 03:37.56 | mmmlinux | so i need to put that root= line in there? |
| 03:38.11 | ali1234 | setting "root=/dev/mmcblk0p1" wont work |
| 03:38.14 | tmzt_ | what initrd is it? |
| 03:38.25 | mmmlinux | i dont know... |
| 03:38.31 | tmzt_ | what device/zImage/root image are you using? |
| 03:38.52 | mmmlinux | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 03:38.56 | mmmlinux | mogul |
| 03:38.57 | mmmlinux | and that |
| 03:39.09 | tmzt_ | you have an initrd line in default.txt, what does that say? |
| 03:39.29 | mmmlinux | set initrd initrd.gz |
| 03:39.29 | mmmlinux | #set initrd initrd-android |
| 03:39.29 | mmmlinux | #set initrd initrd-console |
| 03:39.51 | tmzt_ | when you boot, do you still get the mounting /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard: invalid argument line? |
| 03:40.06 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 03:40.35 | tmzt_ | you are using dzo's zImage or dcordes? |
| 03:40.44 | mmmlinux | i dont know |
| 03:40.54 | tmzt_ | did you get it from it029? |
| 03:41.12 | mmmlinux | i got it from http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 03:41.36 | mmmlinux | so yes |
| 03:41.54 | tmzt_ | do you get found initramfs or something like that in the boot messages? |
| 03:42.04 | mmmlinux | i dont think so |
| 03:42.18 | ali1234 | he gets a # prompt so yes... |
| 03:42.22 | ali1234 | right? |
| 03:42.29 | mmmlinux | yeah i get a # |
| 03:42.32 | mmmlinux | prompt |
| 03:42.42 | tmzt_ | I just say that |
| 03:43.08 | tmzt_ | it must be finding the initrd and the initrd is trying to mount an sd? |
| 03:44.02 | ali1234 | right, then it mounts the real root from a loopback image |
| 03:44.21 | ali1234 | after unpacking it |
| 03:44.36 | ali1234 | that is what it's supposed to do anyway |
| 03:44.38 | tmzt_ | is there something that is supposed to be in default.txt to tell it where that image is? |
| 03:44.53 | ali1234 | not according to the instructions |
| 03:45.23 | tmzt_ | do you get the /dev/mmcblk0: p1 p2 message? |
| 03:46.00 | mmmlinux | n |
| 03:46.01 | mmmlinux | o |
| 03:46.02 | tmzt_ | keyboard doesn't work yet? |
| 03:46.09 | mmmlinux | not on the titan |
| 03:46.11 | ali1234 | no keyboard, no usb |
| 03:46.24 | ali1234 | if you dont see that message it might mean you dont have a partition table on the card |
| 03:46.50 | mmmlinux | eh |
| 03:46.52 | mmmlinux | ok |
| 03:46.57 | tmzt_ | try run diskmgr.msc on vista |
| 03:47.00 | mmmlinux | thats a bit of a pain |
| 03:47.02 | mmmlinux | ok |
| 03:48.07 | mmmlinux | i dont have that... |
| 03:48.35 | tmzt_ | that might be the wrong name, can you right click on Computer and go to manage? |
| 03:48.48 | mmmlinux | yeah |
| 03:50.01 | mmmlinux | it has a primary partition |
| 03:50.05 | mmmlinux | fat 32 |
| 03:50.35 | tmzt_ | can you delete the partition? |
| 03:50.49 | mmmlinux | i probly have to un mount it |
| 03:50.53 | tmzt_ | how big is it? |
| 03:51.07 | mmmlinux | the size of the cards... |
| 03:51.11 | mmmlinux | card |
| 03:51.12 | mmmlinux | * |
| 03:51.33 | tmzt_ | how many megabytes? |
| 03:51.38 | mmmlinux | 983 |
| 03:52.04 | tmzt_ | you have the files copied? |
| 03:52.10 | mmmlinux | yeah |
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| 13:24.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: GT works perfect :) |
| 13:24.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: anyway processor is too much powerfull |
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| 13:39.25 | kiozen | BabelO_: well after the world did not disappear into a singularity today, you made my day :) |
| 13:39.49 | BabelO_ | kiozen: lol you speak about the CERN ? |
| 13:40.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is only 1/10 of the final power, we have time to disappear in the next month or days |
| 13:40.49 | kiozen | darn! does that mean I have to program that FFT or not? |
| 13:41.02 | BabelO_ | yes :) |
| 13:41.09 | kiozen | shit |
| 13:41.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what i do this afternoon, is very ... very ... shit ! |
| 13:41.23 | BabelO_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounding |
| 13:42.06 | kiozen | ah no rounding is fun :) |
| 13:42.30 | kiozen | I love fixed point rounding, endless source of errors |
| 13:43.03 | BabelO_ | kiozen: poor me in my money application i have 6 different rouding mode ... |
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| 13:43.15 | BabelO_ | crazy invoice |
| 13:43.36 | kiozen | send everything that's left over to my account :) |
| 13:44.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you know the bank rouding ? if latest digit is 2 then rouding up if it is 3 then rouding down, odd / even rouding mode |
| 13:50.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so FFT ? :) |
| 13:53.21 | kiozen | yes some analysis software for gears |
| 13:54.11 | BabelO_ | kiozen: works perfect on acer N35 :) i use some script for M, so i thiunk it works like for you |
| 13:55.14 | kiozen | BabelO_: you use it with qtopia or just qws? |
| 13:55.49 | kiozen | with qws it has some backlight features, but they are still quite loox specific |
| 13:55.54 | BabelO_ | just qws, i provide him a small ilnux partition on a 2Gb SD with 200Mb console / qtopia image |
| 13:56.08 | kiozen | and does that backlight stuff work? |
| 13:56.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes changed backlight write |
| 13:56.16 | kiozen | ok |
| 13:56.34 | kiozen | I used the record key to toggle / reset backlight |
| 13:56.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i see some code to put aplpication full screen from qtopia |
| 13:56.58 | kiozen | afaik it's still not working with 4.3 |
| 13:57.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it seem yes it is, i read someone on #qtopia channel |
| 13:57.56 | kiozen | ok, that would be nice for your artemis |
| 14:00.16 | kiozen | keep me informed about the usability on the acer, feedback from a 3rd person is always good. |
| 14:02.53 | BabelO_ | kiozen: he already use it on the week end, saying very good... but since this morning i show him the tools from yesturday |
| 14:02.54 | BabelO_ | so .... |
| 14:03.37 | kiozen | the arrow and proxy stuff? |
| 14:04.13 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no the tools with profil view :) |
| 14:04.58 | kiozen | the .net stuff? |
| 14:05.05 | BabelO_ | yep |
| 14:05.53 | kiozen | well he can use it anyway on the gpx recorded from M |
| 14:07.35 | BabelO_ | yes agree |
| 14:08.24 | BabelO_ | but it is more a cosmetic stuff, not very very usefull once travell is done |
| 14:09.15 | kiozen | hm, wouldn't say that, such gadgets let you somehow experience the journey once again |
| 14:09.47 | kiozen | especially if you can connect pictures to waypoints like in the .net app |
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| 15:30.37 | BabelO_ | ola marajin_ |
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| 16:46.07 | marajin | hmm |
| 16:46.17 | marajin | BabelO: Ya know how to get virtualbox host networking working btw? |
| 16:46.53 | BabelO_ | marajin: you need usbfs in kernel and mount usbfs :) |
| 16:46.55 | BabelO_ | that's all |
| 16:47.10 | BabelO_ | oups sorry |
| 16:47.12 | BabelO_ | bad read |
| 16:47.13 | BabelO_ | lol |
| 16:47.16 | marajin | BabelO_: No... host networking, I want virtualbox to use eth1 dedicated |
| 16:47.27 | marajin | I've pulled an extra cable so both ports are connected |
| 16:47.58 | BabelO_ | dedicated ? from preferences ? you can choose host networking, bt never see with two card |
| 16:47.59 | marajin | I fiddled with bridging and broke my networking for a while earlier, then decided I'd just pull the extra cable then I'm not annoying eth0 while I play |
| 16:47.59 | BabelO_ | sorry |
| 16:48.18 | marajin | you think it should work if I just say host networking to use eth1? |
| 16:49.13 | BabelO_ | marajin: not sure if you can specify it |
| 16:50.38 | marajin | well googling gave me a lot of rubbish with setting up tap and br |
| 16:52.13 | mmmlinux | is there a way to run linux natively on a HTC or do you have to use the haret program? |
| 16:56.02 | marajin | mmmlinux: Depends which device you have |
| 16:56.08 | mmmlinux | titan |
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| 17:01.48 | Marajin_ | whoops |
| 17:02.03 | mmmlinux | fall off the internet just there? |
| 17:02.31 | Marajin_ | I'm tinkering with tap/br stuff and it can mess with the host's networking briefly... |
| 17:02.45 | Marajin_ | I've switched to my laptop/UMPC so no more drops till I've got stuff behaving I hope |
| 17:02.51 | mmmlinux | ah |
| 17:03.03 | mmmlinux | so is it possibly to directly boot linux on a titan? |
| 17:03.38 | Marajin_ | not yet |
| 17:04.00 | mmmlinux | damn, is it due to the lack of linux or lack of a bootloader? |
| 17:05.32 | Marajin_ | bootloader |
| 17:05.47 | Marajin_ | Linux/android can be started on the Titan |
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| 17:06.11 | mmmlinux | is any progress being made on one? |
| 17:06.42 | Marajin_ | not that I know of, bootloader is the final step after all hardware support is completed ya see |
| 17:08.31 | mmmlinux | ah |
| 17:08.44 | mmmlinux | and as i found out yesterday, thats not close yet |
| 17:10.16 | Marajin_ | not yet but we're working on it |
| 17:11.07 | mmmlinux | thats good |
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| 18:03.37 | dcordes | can somebody tell what sort of signal laptop lcd displays are using? |
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| 18:33.21 | Marajin_ | dcordes: depends on the laptop |
| 18:33.33 | Marajin_ | dcordes: Why d'ya need to know? |
| 18:33.57 | amiral_ | someone know how can i find gpio under linux ? |
| 18:33.58 | dcordes | I'm just curious how laptop lcds work :) |
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| 18:38.52 | Marajin_ | dcordes: problematically ;) |
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| 18:54.03 | dcordes | most lcds have an individual signal |
| 18:55.07 | dcordes | I have an LTN154X3-L01 |
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| 19:18.23 | Marajin_ | 'lo ali1234 |
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| 21:15.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: still around ? |
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