| 00:00.08 | tetsuo\0 | I'm puzzled by a code problem |
| 00:00.10 | tetsuo\0 | totally unrelated :D |
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| 00:16.29 | Biohazard | im back dcordes |
| 00:16.43 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:16.57 | Biohazard | now im on linux.. booted with haret.. logged with telnet.. |
| 00:17.09 | Biohazard | would u like to see log? |
| 00:17.21 | dcordes | what did you do in order to make magician boot linux? |
| 00:17.37 | dcordes | respective, not make it show the white screen |
| 00:17.45 | Biohazard | set kernel zimage |
| 00:17.48 | Biohazard | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 console=tty0" |
| 00:17.49 | Biohazard | bootlinux |
| 00:18.16 | dcordes | how does the other default.txt look? |
| 00:18.19 | dcordes | (unmodified) |
| 00:18.23 | Biohazard | same.. |
| 00:18.35 | dcordes | so it was fixed by witchcraft? |
| 00:18.49 | Biohazard | no?.. it was this wersion.. |
| 00:18.55 | Biohazard | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/default.txt |
| 00:18.58 | dcordes | so you are using a different kernel now? |
| 00:19.02 | Biohazard | the only one that i can found |
| 00:19.32 | dcordes | you said to me there was a white screen after booting earlier. |
| 00:19.38 | Biohazard | which kernel do u suggest.. i tried with openmoko's kernel and opie II kernel.. still same.. |
| 00:19.48 | dcordes | I can't suggest a kernel |
| 00:20.05 | dcordes | I would try to obtain one that is built from the latest source |
| 00:20.09 | Biohazard | yes.. a white screen.. first some little info.. and than white screen.. |
| 00:20.27 | dcordes | ah ok. did not see the little info part before. |
| 00:20.47 | dcordes | so now it is stuck in the little info screen because it "can't mount rootfs" ? |
| 00:21.10 | Biohazard | well.. actually i forgot to told u.. my bad.. no let look haret's log u will understand i think.. |
| 00:21.13 | Biohazard | Opening file zImage |
| 00:21.13 | Biohazard | boot params: RAMADDR=a0000000 RAMSIZE=04000000 MTYPE=875 CMDLINE='root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 conspole=tty0' |
| 00:21.13 | Biohazard | Boot FB feedback: 1 |
| 00:21.13 | Biohazard | Built virtual to physical page mapping |
| 00:21.13 | Biohazard | Allocated 312 pages (tags=4B800000/a340d000 kernel=4B801000/a3404000 initrd=4B934000/a327c000 index=4B934000/a327c000) |
| 00:21.16 | Biohazard | Built kernel tags area |
| 00:21.18 | Biohazard | Built page index |
| 00:21.20 | Biohazard | Video buffer at A8500020 sx=240 sy=320 mx=60 my=53 |
| 00:21.22 | Biohazard | Video Phys FB=5c000020 Fonts=a327a064 |
| 00:21.24 | Biohazard | preload=2264@4B937000/a3279000 sj=4B937000 stack=4B935000/a327b000 data=4B936000/a327a000 exec=a3279128 |
| 00:21.26 | Biohazard | Reading 1256320 bytes... |
| 00:21.28 | Biohazard | Read complete |
| 00:21.30 | Biohazard | Launching to physical address a3279010 |
| 00:21.34 | Biohazard | Trampoline setup (tram=136@000241C0/280241c0/a32741c0) |
| 00:21.36 | Biohazard | MMU setup: mmu=B0660000/a0660000 |
| 00:21.38 | Biohazard | Go Go Go... |
| 00:22.14 | Biohazard | it seems like kernel is loading.. also no prob. with fb.. but when it wrote go go go.. screen comes white.. |
| 00:23.07 | dcordes | the white screen still appears? |
| 00:23.38 | Biohazard | yea.. i waited for 30 mins before.. and still white.. now i rebooted phone to retry.. |
| 00:24.34 | dcordes | it's usual that haret stops outputting info on telnet after linux kernel runs |
| 00:25.14 | Biohazard | oh.. i didnt know that.. so something wrong with kernel on ext2 part?.. |
| 00:25.29 | dcordes | raise rootdelay |
| 00:25.32 | dcordes | make it 10 seconds |
| 00:25.37 | dcordes | and boot again. |
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| 00:26.07 | Biohazard | ok leet me try.. i will inform u when done.. |
| 00:26.44 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:27.07 | dcordes | if there is a problem with mounting root device, now you should see output |
| 00:27.58 | Biohazard | same.. :S |
| 00:28.22 | dcordes | you see the haret screen and with no other display in between it turns to white? |
| 00:28.30 | dcordes | no fbcon visible? |
| 00:29.03 | Biohazard | no.. i will try 60 sec delay for a clear view.. |
| 00:31.06 | Biohazard | still same.. a little command info on phone for a short time that i cant read all.. and screen fade to white.. |
| 00:33.50 | Biohazard | any new suggestion?.. |
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| 00:36.18 | Biohazard | i think i bore u dcordes.. lol.. =) |
| 00:37.39 | dcordes | no sorry I'm doing some other things |
| 00:38.03 | Biohazard | in this time i found a devel version.. i will try that one.. |
| 00:38.19 | dcordes | it's difficult to suggest something since I can't really tell what's the matter there |
| 00:38.32 | dcordes | good idea, try a different kernel |
| 00:38.43 | dcordes | there are some people here who have a magician |
| 00:38.54 | dcordes | please stay on the channel and wait until somebody can help. |
| 00:39.27 | Biohazard | will u go?.. |
| 00:40.11 | dcordes | no |
| 00:40.18 | dcordes | I'm just saying in advance |
| 00:40.29 | dcordes | some people are very impatient about such things ;) |
| 00:40.59 | Biohazard | oh lol ok.. so i will write when i finish tying new kernel.. |
| 00:41.35 | dcordes | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel |
| 00:41.46 | dcordes | this is a nice description of how to build the kernel for uni |
| 00:42.07 | dcordes | you can replace universal with magician there if you want to roll your won kernel for magician. |
| 00:45.15 | Biohazard | i hope this kernel will works cos i really dont want to compile my own kernel.. =) |
| 00:47.48 | Biohazard | yes my friend no fade this time.. hurray.. but now it seems stuck another place.. =) |
| 00:47.55 | Biohazard | noo.. logo came.. |
| 00:48.11 | Biohazard | great.. thanx for helps.. |
| 00:49.40 | dcordes | you're always welcome |
| 00:50.18 | dcordes | may the mighty htc tux be with you http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/htc-linux-tux.jpg ! |
| 00:50.58 | Biohazard | at least.. some linux instead of that damn windows mobile.. actually this one is my friends phone.. i hope someday openmoko comes for rw6815 too.. |
| 00:51.31 | Biohazard | ahah lol great logo.. =) |
| 00:53.01 | dcordes | it's the big patron that watches over the htc linux users |
| 00:54.35 | Biohazard | do u know why opie is not working with hp rw6815.. or xda atom exec.. |
| 00:55.40 | dcordes | it's just a userland question. if the kernel for that device provides a working fb and input driver, that's no problem |
| 00:56.14 | dcordes | rw6815=PXA272 |
| 00:57.34 | Biohazard | aha that's right.. i think it could be possible to make kernel for this device too.. but in handhelds.org it says it wont boot/dont support.. |
| 00:57.49 | Biohazard | so do u think something wrong with fb?.. |
| 00:57.51 | dcordes | it might be outdated |
| 00:58.02 | dcordes | and maybe it's trivial to get it working.. |
| 00:59.21 | dcordes | do you know wiki.xda-developers.com? |
| 00:59.27 | dcordes | there are some htcs that have pxa272 |
| 00:59.43 | Biohazard | sure.. i am a rom cooker at xda-developers.. for hp.. |
| 00:59.43 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Linux |
| 00:59.53 | dcordes | magician alpine beetles |
| 01:00.10 | Biohazard | the point is hp is not on htc class.. |
| 01:00.11 | dcordes | you should use the kernels for those three as orientation if you want to look into it |
| 01:01.43 | dcordes | sable and beetles are HP |
| 01:01.51 | dcordes | they are not sold under htc name |
| 01:02.06 | dcordes | sable, Also known as HP iPAQ hw69xx (hw6915 / hw6925 / hw6945 / hw6965 / hw6910 / hw6920 / hw6940) |
| 01:02.16 | dcordes | beetles,Also known as HP iPAQ hw651x (hw6515 / hw6510) |
| 01:02.23 | dcordes | (from http://forum.xda-developers.com/) |
| 01:02.29 | dcordes | ;) |
| 01:02.33 | Biohazard | i know.. but this one is 68xx series which count as xda atom o2.. |
| 01:03.05 | dcordes | just try it out? |
| 01:03.07 | Biohazard | for sable or beetles linux working great.. |
| 01:03.46 | Biohazard | if i could boot the kernel somehow i think it wont be much hard to compile modules and drivers for it.. |
| 01:09.32 | Biohazard | im going to sleep for now friend.. hope to talk later again.. |
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| 12:06.01 | `m8` | Hi |
| 12:06.25 | pogan0 | hi |
| 12:07.31 | m8 | do you know where i can find linux images for pxa2700? |
| 12:07.32 | m8 | :| |
| 12:07.59 | pogan0 | what is that ? |
| 12:08.27 | m8 | toshiba portege g900 |
| 12:08.28 | m8 | :| |
| 12:09.59 | pogan0 | im lokin somethink for e to but i have samsung sgh-i600 smartphone |
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| 12:12.21 | m8 | good |
| 12:12.27 | m8 | but there is a graphic interface ? |
| 12:12.35 | m8 | or is shell only ? |
| 12:14.03 | pogan0 | if u get linux then u can have console i thinnlk |
| 12:14.27 | pogan0 | if u get android u have saome gui and standart icons |
| 12:14.56 | pogan0 | java and other .. |
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| 13:14.30 | dcordes | pogan0, there exist other graphical user interfaces for mobile devices for a long time |
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| 13:14.53 | dcordes | before google even thought about making money while people are on the go |
| 13:15.47 | dcordes | s/devices/devices running linux/ |
| 13:23.48 | pogan0 | yep ? |
| 13:24.03 | pogan0 | im fighting with opera now... ; / |
| 13:28.21 | dcordes | http://www.openembedded.org can provide you with most of the free and open source software user interfaces available today |
| 13:30.25 | pogan0 | thx but i think that ther will bwe problem witch my smart<>no suporting hardware |
| 13:31.55 | dcordes | sgh-i600 runs windows mobile no? |
| 13:32.00 | dcordes | did you try running haret on it? |
| 13:34.30 | pogan0 | yes |
| 13:34.35 | pogan0 | windows mobile |
| 13:34.57 | pogan0 | ther are newer relases of samsungs |
| 13:35.39 | dcordes | newer releases of the windows mobile for samsungs? |
| 13:38.54 | marajin_ | allo allo allo |
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| 14:31.19 | joss | can 900/1800 work in us? |
| 14:32.24 | joss | 900/1800 dual band phone, since wiki lists us freq. 850/1900, ah so it definitely can't work:) |
| 14:32.37 | joss | even higher band doesn't match |
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| 15:16.48 | joss | http://www.blackberry8800series.com/function/features/cdma.jsp anyone, can understand how 900/1800 can roam globally everywhere in the world? |
| 15:38.17 | pogan0 | hi |
| 15:38.34 | pogan0 | anybody sgh-i600 ? ; ) |
| 15:59.52 | joss | pogan0: samsung? |
| 16:00.28 | joss | pogan0: i just deal with samsung phones, search them, i like them quite a lot, but i just can not understand, why they offer europe/asia gsm part:( |
| 16:01.40 | pogan0 | it fill like big economy |
| 16:01.47 | pogan0 | joss, ; ) |
| 16:02.04 | joss | pogan0: have a look at sph-i770 |
| 16:02.25 | joss | that is perfect, but it lacks 850/1800 |
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| 16:02.48 | joss | 1900 pardon |
| 16:02.58 | pogan0 | i think i konw what that type is |
| 16:04.03 | joss | pogan0: what thype? what i am trying to say, it completely lack americas continent band |
| 16:04.23 | joss | europe ana asia, i really can not understand the part, that this is a us model:) |
| 16:06.09 | pogan0 | sph-i770 to many differences sgh-i600 |
| 16:06.43 | pogan0 | but size of ram is not so important |
| 16:07.46 | joss | http://www.pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1378&view=1 |
| 16:07.50 | joss | also a nice one |
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| 16:10.06 | pogan0 | ah da band ; ) |
| 16:13.14 | joss | pogan0: yeah, that seems quite lame, to name it a us market phone, since that misses gsm bands of that continent:) |
| 16:14.55 | pogan0 | u talkin about i600 ? |
| 16:16.25 | pogan0 | joss ; ) |
| 16:17.25 | joss | pogan0: that i770, but all samsungs dual mode world phones, miss us gsm band:( |
| 16:17.36 | joss | i think i600 has them, since that is not dual mode |
| 16:18.00 | joss | i tend to think, that south america and such places do not have cdma , but perhaps they do |
| 16:19.11 | joss | pogan0: http://newskytech.en.alibaba.com/product/200201928/206963279/Wireless_Modem/HSDPA_EDGE_GPRS_EVDO_CDMA_Wireless_Modem.html that is interesting external modem |
| 16:19.14 | joss | usb one |
| 16:20.56 | pogan0 | nice stuf for mobile man |
| 16:22.45 | pogan0 | i think why in euro wersion of philips go gear is no radio |
| 16:22.57 | pogan0 | mp3 playa |
| 16:24.30 | pogan0 | propably cose spectrum of radio vawe difer alot |
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| 16:34.33 | ALoGeNo | hi, i have a question :) |
| 16:35.54 | ALoGeNo | i was boot debian from image file using qtopia exe,now im trying to do from the sd card but it is a mmc some problem with that? |
| 16:36.19 | ALoGeNo | the others sd cards are very small |
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| 16:47.41 | ALoGeNo | pera q no carga |
| 16:47.49 | ALoGeNo | sorry window :) |
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| 18:27.28 | joss | damn, can not get those band's covered even with two phones |
| 18:28.02 | dcordes | the two cdma bands and gsm? |
| 18:28.02 | joss | http://www.onliner.by/test/gsm/ubiquam_u520/ slim and beatiful doing 450, but again 850/1900 missing |
| 18:28.22 | joss | dcordes: three cdma bands, and quad gsm.. |
| 18:29.04 | dcordes | but quad gsm is standard for gsm phones and all cdma phones that have 850 also have 1900 and vice versa, no? |
| 18:29.06 | joss | putting two 11mm phones together wouldn't make such difference, but still us band missing:( |
| 18:29.09 | joss | for gsm |
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| 18:35.51 | joss | dcordes: http://chinoelectrics.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008827526578/pdtl/GSM-phone/1007726218/GSM-Phone.htm still have to go with such schema:) |
| 18:36.53 | joss | minimum order 5000pcs:) btw, what is bluetooth charger? |
| 18:48.06 | joss | http://www.freepatentsonline.com/D552539.html |
| 18:48.17 | joss | really weird, do not understand |
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| 19:46.30 | dcordes | joss, they use witchcraft |
| 19:48.43 | joss | dcordes: what they? |
| 19:49.01 | dcordes | to charge over bluetooth |
| 19:49.33 | joss | dcordes: you are not taking/talking it seriosly no? |
| 19:49.45 | dcordes | no, not seriously :) |
| 19:50.19 | joss | seriously since, witchcraft should be something like supermagical powers:) |
| 19:50.32 | joss | funny names there, really annoying |
| 19:52.17 | joss | dcordes: i guess 850gsm and 800 cdma bands interferre with each other someway |
| 19:53.27 | dcordes | maybe, I have no idea about such things |
| 19:53.42 | dcordes | rarely know gsm specifications |
| 19:54.35 | joss | dcordes: me neither, just searching the ways to buy my electronics all at once, that might be needed while traveling |
| 19:55.20 | dcordes | do you travel a lot? |
| 19:57.34 | joss | i think not that lot, will start soon though..and i do not want to buy electronics alot |
| 19:58.28 | dcordes | it could be annoying because of guarantees |
| 19:58.31 | joss | bu never mind seems cdma does not live with gsm usb bands for no model |
| 19:58.31 | dcordes | warranties |
| 19:58.53 | joss | yep |
| 20:00.08 | joss | also annying to charge three gadgets etc.:( |
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| 20:01.55 | joss | dcordes: ah they really shouldn't interferre since moto has one variant, no ts thouhg |
| 20:02.23 | dcordes | one variant having both, 850 and 800? |
| 20:02.41 | joss | yep |
| 20:02.46 | joss | and cdma two band |
| 20:02.48 | joss | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1374 |
| 20:03.03 | joss | though theres coming soon label still |
| 20:04.28 | dcordes | looks nice |
| 20:04.46 | joss | dcordes: indeed it does, lacks gps and touchscreen though:( |
| 20:06.04 | joss | dcordes: your model works with navigation also, that kaiser? |
| 20:06.29 | dcordes | yep |
| 20:06.59 | joss | dcordes: also under linux, what program you use for it, where you live? |
| 20:07.37 | dcordes | not tried under linux because there are problems with GUI |
| 20:08.06 | dcordes | the kernel codebase was specifically designed for google android distro |
| 20:08.27 | dcordes | and google android has odd framebuffer settings |
| 20:09.11 | joss | dcordes: http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1323 this what i like most, sadly annoyingly it also lacks 850/1900 weird..but that should be all us continent |
| 20:09.20 | joss | dcordes: you located in us? |
| 20:09.25 | dcordes | no I'm in germany |
| 20:09.52 | dcordes | no cdma around |
| 20:10.12 | joss | dcordes: really? |
| 20:10.19 | joss | dcordes: so what you use for internet there? |
| 20:10.25 | dcordes | hsdpa |
| 20:10.30 | joss | wireless internet, now also? |
| 20:10.32 | dcordes | umts extension |
| 20:10.59 | dcordes | hsdpa is the fastest atm |
| 20:11.13 | joss | here it costs kind a lot, but i guess that depends on the infrastructure |
| 20:11.22 | dcordes | I think so |
| 20:11.26 | joss | since there were 450mhz carriers allready existing |
| 20:11.48 | joss | so hdspa is fixed there or depends data measeurement? |
| 20:12.21 | joss | here 1month 30us dollars or so, 1mbps connection all over the country |
| 20:13.54 | dcordes | this depends on what plan you get from which provider. |
| 20:14.50 | dcordes | it is affordable in my opinion |
| 20:31.35 | ALoGeNo | hey good nights :) |
| 20:32.31 | ALoGeNo | why can tellme all the time the uni bootinh zimage with haret and mmc partitionated that uknow partition table? |
| 20:32.32 | joss | ALoGeNo: have nice dreams:) |
| 20:32.43 | ALoGeNo | the same :) |
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