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05:11.26goxboxlivepaulproteus: hi, seems like your gitweb is down. Someone want to have access to my git tree.
05:11.31goxboxliverwead access
05:11.35goxboxliveread
05:11.44paulproteusgoxboxlive, Hmm, let me check on the gitweb.
05:11.51paulproteusgoxboxlive, That person can still email me a key and the git hosting works fine anyway.
05:12.15paulproteusIt works, it's just REALLY SLOW.
05:12.16paulproteus(OW, wow.)
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05:13.50supermanHi to all
05:13.58paulproteusHowdy superman.
05:14.25supermanhi
05:15.00supermantoday i run linux on my htc touh (2-3 attempts)
05:15.25supermani used linwizard 0.2.0 ...
05:16.01supermani also used old version on linwizard... in that i can see my sd card in /dev directory
05:16.10supermanBUT in latest version it is not there
05:16.28supermancan any one tell me the reason
05:21.00supermanpaul there?
05:21.21paulproteusYes, but I don't know the reason.
05:21.30paulproteusAnd I'm currently really really busy with other things.
05:21.51tmzt_linwizard is for omap though, isn't it?
05:22.09supermanya it is... htc touch has omap board
05:22.20tmzt_which htc name is that?
05:22.28supermanElf
05:22.35tmzt_ok
05:22.58supermanany one tried it on ELf and able to mount sd card ?
05:23.13tmzt_you mean mmcblk is not in /dev?
05:23.21supermanya it is not there
05:23.36tmzt_is udev running, what is this one gizzard?
05:23.54supermanwhere as in old version of linwizard it show the device in /dev
05:25.09supermani have downloaded the initrd and image from linwizard site
05:26.24supermanalso .. lets say i m able to get the mmcblk in /dev dir.. will i be able to mount it without formatting it with ext2
05:32.53tmzt_linwizard boots with one .exe?
05:33.10supermanya haret.exe
05:33.33tmzt_you can mount vfat, you just can't install linux to it
05:34.21supermanhmmm.. if i put GPE dirs on my storage card and after mounting it  execute chroot then ?
05:36.07tmzt_if you have the right gpe, you should be able to
05:41.02supermancool.... but for that i need mmcblk :)
05:42.42supermanlet me try udev
05:44.57supermanlogged into ssh
05:45.11supermanudev not found :)
05:47.36supermanis there any linux for nokia phones ??
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05:58.15tmzt_there's videos of one for n95, but no boot loader released
05:58.47tmzt_/etc/init.d/udev start or udevd
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11:11.27marajin'lo ginge
11:12.48gingegmorning sir
11:27.48marajinAh the simple joys of terrifying a windows user by removing their XP account password in under 2 minutes
11:27.56marajingotta love a USB Thumbdrive + linux + a few handy tools
11:30.50gingeI am forced to use Windows XP at work for a while, so I just installed KDE4 + a whle load of utils to make it usable (like being able to scroll a window that isn't active)
11:31.09marajinheh :p
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12:01.04marajinginge: How're things at work anyway? No more low flying furniture warnings?
12:02.54gingeheh, things have calmed down slightly. I am on maintainance mode now, so just dull bugfixes
12:03.35gingetime to eat pizza! laters
12:08.42marajinginge: I concur, I have a 14" meat pizza on order
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12:17.31gingemmm bbq steak
12:18.13marajinginge: Mmm, 4 kinds of meat :P
12:18.25gingemmmm meat
12:18.30marajinthat's more like it
12:18.34marajinooh, spore's out
12:19.11gingewhat really? I really thought it was vapourware
12:19.21marajinnope
12:19.22marajintis out
12:19.43marajinTis being.. *ahem* acquired at 1.5MB/s :p
12:20.13marajinI'll probably pick up the DVD but I'm impatient
12:21.19marajinginge: I'm in shock, dominoes actually delivered a warm pizza :P
12:37.39kiozen... and everyone knows that pizza and beer have to cold
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13:00.47gingedamn I am just missing a program that will let me do highlight/middle click paste in XP
13:00.51gingeany ideas?
13:02.27tetsuo\0how does one do right click on htc linux?
13:03.26marajinginge: Not off hand but I hate that functionality, it's too prone to mispastes for me.
13:04.53gingeon trackpads maybe. I have a mouse and I miss it :(
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13:05.46gingemr dcordes, hello
13:06.09dcordesgood afternoon, Mr ginge
13:06.55gingedcordes: http://ehiti.de/katmouse/ scroll on inactive window
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13:11.24dcordesthanks, that's useful when you must use win
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17:05.45ltxdahttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2607380#post2607380
17:07.24marajinltxda: :( Sorry to hear it
17:09.51ltxdathank you, just need to get as many prayers as possible
17:10.37marajinI'm not religious in any way, shape or form, but you have my well-wishing and thoughts
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17:14.40ltxdathanks and much appreciated
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17:23.17diogene31is away: Dinner time
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17:46.30marajin'lo ali1234
17:46.36ali1234hi
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18:06.57marajinali1234: So... Spore
18:07.41ali1234spore?
18:08.38marajinali1234: Ya know, the game spore?
18:08.43marajinIt got released er, yesterday?
18:09.12ali1234yeah?
18:09.17Miekit goes right back to the start of the tribal stage if you die :(
18:09.44marajinI didn't die in the tribal stage
18:09.50marajinI died plenty in the creature stage
18:09.53marajinepic creatures FTL
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18:14.45ali1234i never really was interested in spore. it just seemed like all hype and no game to me.
18:15.17marajinit's doing more or less what they said it would thusfar, but the main thing is the space age which I've not yet reached so..
18:15.35ali1234but the whole thing with "stages?"
18:15.37ali1234what is that?
18:16.03marajinum, you evolve your race from amoeba to intergalactic civilization
18:16.41marajinso you have like... the point where you're floating as a tiny creature in the ocean, then you evolve into a land based creature, then you gain sentience and begin tribal warfare..
18:16.54marajineventually you unit into a civilization and conquer the world
18:16.59marajinthen finally you become space faring
18:17.25ali1234can can you keep on evolving once you reach tribal stage?
18:17.39marajinNo, you change to evolving your technology rather than your creature
18:18.04ali1234so it is basically a whole different game then. just using the graphic for your creature that you made in the first part
18:18.10ali1234not exactly "seamless"
18:18.10marajinyeah
18:18.32marajinit's loosely speaking 6 different games with a continuous image of your creature
18:19.53ali1234does stuff from earlier stages even affect later ones? like if you have a creature wil 18 arms, is it really good at fighting with swords etc?
18:20.00marajinyes
18:20.31marajinyour design and ethos earlier in the game influences the ability of your creatures during their later development
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18:41.27reboot551hello
18:41.30reboot551any coder active
18:41.31reboot551?
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18:56.07diogene31is back
18:56.54dcordeshi diogene31
18:57.06diogene31dcordes: hi there
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19:30.30dwaradzynhi, is there any progress with sd dma issue? i tried some tests and it really seems it is a hardware problem, no software...
19:30.47dcordesit is a software problem
19:30.55dcordesdo you get random hangs in wince when using sd ;) ?
19:31.12dwaradzynyou're right
19:32.02dwaradzynis it possible to force it to use pio instead of dma? it would be slower but only during io
19:36.39marajindwaradzyn: It's a hardware bug that win mobile has a software workaround for ;)
19:37.09dcordeseither way it must be possible to solve software wise
19:37.33marajinyes
19:37.35marajineventually
19:38.19dcordesbut that's just my assumption of it, I don't know enough about these things
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22:33.37Biohazardhi every1
22:34.29Biohazardis there anyone who can help me on htc magician openmoko..
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22:36.34dcordesBiohazard, what is the problem?
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22:38.55Biohazardwell actually this is my first time that i try linux on magician (but im an experienced linux user,developer).. i did everything on manual.. but when i tried to boot.. only a white screen comes out nothing else..
22:39.47dcordesI have no magician but I know some things about openmoko, which images did you get?
22:40.12Biohazardhmm.. one sec..
22:40.45Biohazardi tried this one Angstrom-openmoko-devel-image-glibc-ipk-2008.1-test-20071028-magician.rootfs.tar.bz2 and this one..
22:41.15Biohazardalso tried haret 4.0 haret 5.1 linload and Openmoko-Magician-Linux.exe
22:41.22Biohazardresults r still same..
22:41.43dcordesmy first thought was that you could have a different panel
22:42.10dcordesand the framebuffer init code from the downloadable kernels does not work for you
22:42.28dcordesare there different variations of the magician?
22:42.57Biohazardi only have the mda compact t-mobile version of magician now..
22:43.46dcordesdid you try booting the kernel without any filesystems?
22:45.03dcordestry only specifying machine kernel and boot in default.txt
22:45.46Biohazardwell.. i tried all available.. either the vfat version only or the vfat + ext2 version..
22:45.48dcordesif there is something else boot critical for magician like some vars cmdline also put that
22:46.05dcordesdon't try any filesystem stuff only boot raw kernel image
22:46.23Biohazardcould u explain how may i do it?
22:46.39dcordesas I said above, only specify the necessary things in cmdline
22:46.54Biohazardhmm with haret's telnet feature?
22:47.07dcordesno
22:47.23dcordescan you point me to the url where you got the files you are going to use, so we are in sync?
22:47.42dcordes..well you can also use telnet
22:47.52Biohazardsure.. do u have msn or skype so we could talk from there too..
22:48.05Biohazardi get files from there btw.. http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/
22:50.56dcordesBiohazard, let's speak publicly better so people can join the talks if they want to help
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22:59.05tetsuo\0how to make right click on X on these images?
23:04.44dcordestetsuo\0, which X?
23:04.52dcordesin gpe?
23:06.23Biohazarddcordes why u stop talking with me?..
23:06.38dcordesI didn't see above
23:06.51dcordesI suggested to better speak in public
23:06.54Biohazardi asked ur msn from pm..
23:06.58dcordes<dcordes> Biohazard, let's speak publicly better so people can join the talks if they want to help
23:07.17Biohazardoh ok sorry i didnt saw that..
23:11.59Biohazardcould u explain how may i boot raw kernel.. or is there any doc?.. cos i cannot connect haret remotely..
23:12.32tetsuo\0dcordes: yes
23:13.18dcordesBiohazard, edit default.txt
23:14.32Biohazardit seems like this now.. what is the thing should i change?..
23:14.33Biohazardset KERNEL zImage
23:14.33Biohazardset CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=1"
23:14.33Biohazardbootlinux
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23:36.49dcordestetsuo\0, tap and hold down on matchbox-panel, add xmonobutton
23:37.12dcordestetsuo\0, if not present use ipkg or opkg to install the package xmonobutton
23:39.10tetsuo\0cool thx
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23:58.01dcordestetsuo\0, did it help?
23:59.47tetsuo\0haven't tried yet

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