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| 08:06.09 | Babel1 | hi |
| 08:06.36 | kiozen | Babel1: ola |
| 08:08.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i have latest M on Artemis |
| 08:09.24 | kiozen | and? does the alarm sound work? |
| 08:09.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i see that now when we click on the map all disappear. we keep only map moving |
| 08:10.01 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, for performance sake |
| 08:10.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: good, and where is the exit button now ? |
| 08:10.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: you do not want to exit :P |
| 08:10.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: just joking, in the about dilalog |
| 08:11.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but if i use that one it quit qtopia too ... |
| 08:11.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: I falsely triggered it too often |
| 08:11.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: have to use the real qtopia softbar menu then |
| 08:11.48 | kiozen | BabelO_: haven't tested against qpe lately |
| 08:40.40 | marajin | mornin' |
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| 09:18.01 | marajin | http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks |
| 09:18.05 | marajin | ooer |
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| 11:14.34 | dcordes | hi |
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| 12:07.31 | marajin | ginge: http://tapthehive.com/discuss/This_Post_Not_Made_In_Chrome_Google_s_EULA_Sucks <-- heard about that? |
| 12:07.41 | marajin | dcordes_: need any reasons to rant? see URL above? :P |
| 12:08.34 | ginge | no, not concerned. no rant needed. It is licenced under BSD so EULA is irrelevant. The EULA is the same as gmail etc. I think they just put up a boilerplate |
| 12:08.55 | marajin | fair enough :P |
| 12:08.56 | ginge | I am more concerned over the hardcocded windows components :) |
| 12:09.04 | marajin | I haven't even bothered to download it |
| 12:09.22 | ginge | in fact I am not that concerned. I won't use it until all of my firefox extensions also work :) |
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| 12:09.40 | dcordes_ | hey guys |
| 12:10.10 | dcordes_ | I'm also happy with firefox now |
| 12:10.54 | ginge | hi dcordes_ "now"? |
| 12:11.08 | dcordes_ | I don't need a new/different browser |
| 12:11.23 | ginge | you impled you were unhappy with ff |
| 12:11.29 | ginge | at some point |
| 12:11.58 | dcordes_ | I remember I said I like the automagic history searching url bar |
| 12:12.35 | dcordes_ | 3.0 was a bit unstable when it hit the ubuntu repo |
| 12:13.32 | dcordes_ | I won't state anything further on the topic without my lawyer :) |
| 12:14.04 | dcordes_ | ginge: did you add printks to get http://headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated2.txt ? |
| 12:14.32 | ginge | yeah |
| 12:15.08 | dcordes_ | I updated that link in readme |
| 12:16.08 | ginge | ok. It doesn't add much more useful output. We need to get a uart going |
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| 12:54.52 | dcordes_ | does somebody know anything about (virtual) rs232 on htc devices (emulated on usb port?) ? |
| 12:55.22 | dcordes_ | there is repllog.exe which can trigger serial connections on the kaiser |
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| 12:57.10 | kring | what does it do? |
| 12:57.10 | marajin | well it emulates serial over usb |
| 12:57.11 | dcordes_ | I am not sure. I found this http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms861131.aspx and this http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=96327 (grep rs232 in the thread) |
| 12:57.14 | dcordes_ | kring: |
| 12:57.54 | ginge | just had confirmation that there is no exposed uart on kaiser. They did say 90% sure so may be wrong |
| 12:58.00 | ginge | rs232 uart |
| 12:58.23 | dcordes_ | but there are 3 uarts present, right? |
| 12:59.22 | ginge | shrugs |
| 12:59.34 | ginge | I am guessing virual serial, GPS and something else |
| 12:59.48 | dcordes_ | what about the bluetooth? |
| 12:59.58 | ginge | that would be likely |
| 13:03.02 | dcordes_ | marajin: do you know a place where that is documented? |
| 13:03.15 | dcordes_ | that serial over usb emulation |
| 13:04.01 | kring | ginge: maybe DM port |
| 13:04.44 | kring | ginge: in general, qualcomm chipset has 3 usb-enumlated serial: modem, gps, diag |
| 13:05.33 | dcordes_ | does diag access arm9 debug? |
| 13:05.43 | kring | yes. |
| 13:06.04 | dcordes_ | and what's modem, does it expose smd0 to the serial-usb? |
| 13:06.57 | kring | i have no idea. |
| 13:08.34 | dcordes_ | I wonder _how_ modem accesses arm9. does it go directly to arm9 or is also arm11 involved somehow? |
| 13:08.50 | ginge | the diag port doesn't seem to work for us. It is either disabled or we are doing it wronf |
| 13:09.06 | dcordes_ | in wince? |
| 13:09.09 | ginge | dcordes_: which modem? mornally it uses a shared memory fifo to pass data |
| 13:09.16 | ginge | dcordes_: in anything |
| 13:09.37 | dcordes_ | ginge: I'm talking about the modem in 3 usb-emulated serials |
| 13:10.14 | ginge | i'm talking about all three |
| 13:10.25 | ginge | if it is habdled by a9 then it should use a fifo |
| 13:12.36 | kring | ginge: poweroff kaiser;and keep green-camera, press poweron |
| 13:12.58 | ginge | into bootloader |
| 13:13.21 | ginge | ? |
| 13:13.43 | kring | camera more than 3-color bootloader |
| 13:14.08 | ginge | what would that do for me? |
| 13:14.08 | dcordes_ | KAIS130 MFG |
| 13:14.19 | dcordes_ | SPL-1.0.OliPof |
| 13:14.22 | dcordes_ | CPLD-8 |
| 13:14.24 | dcordes_ | Serial |
| 13:14.24 | kring | no |
| 13:14.35 | kring | keep camera |
| 13:14.39 | dcordes_ | (it's pofs hard spl) |
| 13:15.06 | kring | it will be black screen. |
| 13:15.22 | dcordes_ | kring: if I keep holding camera when the spl screen already appeared, for a bit of a second a white screen with blue text appears |
| 13:15.41 | dcordes_ | I think it's just a loading screen |
| 13:15.54 | dcordes_ | but nothing goes black, (it's not standard bootloader) |
| 13:15.57 | kring | no. it should be a "passthrough" mode |
| 13:16.11 | dcordes_ | ginge: do you have the stock spl? |
| 13:16.26 | kring | 3 virual serial mutiplexed by usb |
| 13:16.34 | ginge | dcordes_: yeah |
| 13:17.02 | dcordes_ | kring: how can I access those? |
| 13:18.02 | kring | hold green and camera then press poweron |
| 13:18.21 | kring | only led works |
| 13:19.26 | ginge | just boots back into wm |
| 13:19.33 | dcordes_ | same |
| 13:19.43 | dcordes_ | kring: green=dial button? |
| 13:19.45 | ginge | stock everything though |
| 13:19.47 | kring | yes |
| 13:22.01 | kring | I have 3 new "data interface" here. USB Modem+Diagnostic Interface+NEMA Device |
| 13:22.58 | dcordes_ | kring: do you have a special bootloader on the kaiser? |
| 13:23.20 | dcordes_ | service mode enabled kaiser comes to mind |
| 13:23.56 | kring | is it really exist? |
| 13:23.57 | kring | :) |
| 13:26.51 | kring | dcordes: any discuss on service mode enabled kaiser? |
| 13:28.15 | dcordes_ | I'm search forum.xda-developers.com there is such a discussion somewhere |
| 13:28.22 | dcordes_ | s/search/searching/ |
| 13:33.13 | dcordes_ | http://e5hopa.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pbHG2HElm2K6nJ97FcRMtaWwgTedEPVZptuLnA7ToPMvpVnDZlH6N_5mdbpQoADIuYL8I4MR_AJ4/HTC_TILT_8925_KAISER%20SERVICE%20MANUAL.pdf?download stumpled across this |
| 13:33.17 | dcordes_ | kaiser service mnaual |
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| 13:33.38 | stylist[obsd] | hey guys ;) |
| 13:33.40 | stylist[obsd] | i bricked my HTC Universal :D |
| 13:33.56 | stylist[obsd] | It does make a cool paperweight |
| 13:34.07 | dcordes_ | oh I'm very sorry it says confidential, I didn't know this |
| 13:34.27 | dcordes_ | please remove if accidently downloaded |
| 13:34.33 | stylist[obsd] | That information is on a need to know basis |
| 13:34.37 | stylist[obsd] | What download dcordes_ ? |
| 13:35.15 | dcordes_ | nevermind |
| 13:36.14 | dcordes_ | I accidently pasted a link that was in middle mouse button cache |
| 13:37.13 | kring | dcordes_: i cann't enter the 3-color bootloader.. |
| 13:37.35 | kring | it must be something wrong. |
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| 13:57.58 | kring | ginge: it your kaiser "security unlocked"? |
| 13:58.28 | ginge | almost certainly not |
| 13:59.11 | dcordes_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236&highlight=mode security unlocker |
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| 14:05.23 | kring | it may be the difference. |
| 14:13.35 | kring | dcordes: how did found 3 uart in kaiser? |
| 14:13.40 | kring | did you |
| 14:14.55 | dcordes_ | kring: I might be wrong, accodring to xda memory map it's only 3 |
| 14:14.59 | dcordes_ | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap |
| 14:15.02 | dcordes_ | kring: I might be wrong, accodring to xda memory map it's only 2 |
| 14:15.24 | dcordes_ | brb |
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| 14:32.24 | kring | wow, *#*#364#*#* also works in kaiser |
| 14:32.39 | dcordes | what does it do? |
| 14:32.50 | kring | try it. |
| 14:33.00 | dcordes | just dial in wince or wherever? |
| 14:34.44 | kring | dial in wince |
| 14:35.48 | dcordes | kring: can you tell me what CID number I must put to set the right service mode? |
| 14:36.49 | kring | i don't know. the key point may be security unlock. |
| 14:37.05 | kring | not cid |
| 14:37.09 | dcordes | it is currently VODAP102 |
| 14:37.19 | dcordes | is CID The wrong thing to change? |
| 14:38.01 | dcordes | oh it just identifies provider |
| 14:38.14 | kring | maybe you can change to supercid |
| 14:38.29 | dcordes | what does supercid do? |
| 14:39.07 | dcordes | I read it often but never found a description |
| 14:39.15 | kring | you can flash roms from other operators |
| 14:39.28 | dcordes | oh I see. than I already have this. wrong program. |
| 14:39.47 | kring | i didn't know much about it either. |
| 14:40.13 | kring | you may need security unlocker. |
| 14:40.30 | dcordes | I'm doing security unlock now |
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| 14:50.35 | dcordes | kring: what does *#*#364#*#* do? |
| 14:50.42 | stylist | Are there other HTC channels in here ? |
| 14:50.45 | stylist | (on freenode) |
| 14:50.51 | stylist | about anything else htc related? |
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| 14:58.15 | kring_ | dcordes: gsm engineer mode |
| 14:58.42 | dcordes | does it disable the speaker? |
| 14:58.43 | kring_ | acturely it uses a set of at command to get radio parameters |
| 14:59.43 | kring_ | it's feasible to port to linux. |
| 15:00.09 | dcordes | nice I need to restart have problems with the flashing |
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| 15:55.27 | ginge | list_append(isdn_rate_bundle, isdn->rates, *bundle); |
| 15:55.33 | ginge | grr |
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| 16:43.44 | marajin | 'lo |
| 16:44.04 | marajin | dcordes: I'm organizing a street-wide complaint to the postal service :p I've caught your ranty bug :( |
| 16:44.14 | dcordes | hi |
| 16:44.32 | dcordes | you did what? |
| 16:44.45 | marajin | well we're having problems with parcels and mail not being delivered |
| 16:45.00 | dcordes | ohh I see, you think I should fix it with rant? |
| 16:45.02 | marajin | so I'm getting all the neighbours to check if they're missing |
| 16:46.07 | dcordes | did you do the security unlock on your kais? |
| 16:46.13 | marajin | um yes? |
| 16:46.22 | dcordes | it won't work for me |
| 16:46.30 | marajin | heh |
| 16:46.35 | dcordes | can you help me? |
| 16:46.36 | marajin | wait, what does 'security unlock' do? |
| 16:46.42 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361039 <-<- |
| 16:47.19 | dcordes | it lets you do fancy stuff |
| 16:47.48 | dcordes | but it's illegal in some countries because you can control nuclear reactors with a security unlocked kais120 |
| 16:48.17 | dcordes | what I hope it does is, let me go in the special usb->serial pass through mode kringer was talking about |
| 16:48.42 | marajin | it sounds like it just allows you to sim unlock the kaiser |
| 16:49.02 | dcordes | sorry it is the wrong link. this is the right one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236 |
| 16:49.57 | dcordes | I have SPL-1.0 OliPof |
| 16:50.41 | dcordes | so I went directly to the step where you must flash the special radio |
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| 16:50.57 | dcordes | step 5. |
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| 16:51.24 | dcordes | it went fine, I have the obsolete modded 1.27 radio version in the bootsplash |
| 16:52.51 | dcordes | but now when I boot to the tricolor screen and run the kaiser-supercid.exe, it gives the positive response and exits on enter. but on the kaiser, nothing happens |
| 16:53.11 | dcordes | it does not reset and when I reset manually and got o the tricolor again, it doesn't say security unlocked. |
| 16:53.54 | marajin | no idea, never tried that.. |
| 16:53.55 | marajin | brbish |
| 16:54.12 | dcordes | can you look if you get the security unlocked note in tricolor screen? |
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| 17:05.18 | dcordes | after the unlocker program exited, I softreset manually and now it works. |
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| 18:24.11 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
| 18:24.19 | ginge | yo |
| 18:26.09 | marajin | how's it going? |
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| 18:34.00 | ginge | marajin: not bad. you? |
| 18:34.28 | marajin | well I just got a prescription from my doc |
| 18:34.28 | marajin | heh |
| 18:34.35 | marajin | I'm going to be rattling with pills apparently |
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| 18:38.01 | ginge | marajin: :( |
| 18:38.19 | marajin | Amoxicillin, Doxycycline and Tinidazole |
| 18:38.45 | marajin | 3 per day for 2 weeks on the first, followed by 2 per day for 2 weeks on the next too, 2 weeks off, then repeat |
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| 18:39.30 | marajin | that totals at 84 Amoxicillin, 56 Doxycycline and 56 Tinidazole.. |
| 18:39.43 | marajin | 196 pills x.x |
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| 19:04.41 | marajin | wb dcordes |
| 19:05.03 | dcordes | thx |
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| 19:55.25 | kiozen | BabelO: I still don't know if the alarm sound works for proximity waypoints, did you try it? |
| 19:56.16 | BabelO | kiozen: no charger problem on BA :( |
| 19:56.38 | kiozen | poor |
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| 19:57.25 | BabelO | kiozen: and emulator ? |
| 19:58.25 | kiozen | BabelO: no sound, but QSound::play(..) can't be that wrong |
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| 20:33.47 | marajin | dcordes: ah the joys of dosbox :P |
| 20:34.54 | dcordes | what's up with dosbox? |
| 20:35.11 | marajin | Nothing, it just actually runs well on the UMPC |
| 20:35.22 | marajin | it's smooth running Ultima 8 anyway |
| 20:35.24 | dcordes | you play the grue game in it? |
| 20:36.33 | marajin | nah man |
| 20:36.33 | dcordes | when it comes to old games I like lucas arts |
| 20:36.33 | dcordes | point and click |
| 20:36.41 | marajin | I'm guessing you don't know much about the old games :p |
| 20:37.01 | dcordes | I enjoy some new games |
| 20:37.14 | dcordes | brb need a snack |
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| 20:37.36 | marajin | ginge: So, dosbox works well on the UMPC :p |
| 20:37.45 | marajin | ginge: Brand new UMPC, what do I do with it? Play Ultima! |
| 20:38.01 | ginge | marajin: heh. Nice |
| 20:40.03 | ginge | you should have download red alert 1 instead |
| 20:40.19 | marajin | don't need to download it, I own it legally |
| 20:40.28 | ginge | same here but downloaded anyway |
| 20:40.35 | marajin | I own every C&C game |
| 20:40.38 | marajin | I got the first decade set |
| 20:40.51 | marajin | 25 quid for every C&C game apart from C&C 3 |
| 20:40.57 | ginge | I just purchased each as they came out. starcraft too |
| 20:42.27 | marajin | oh don't get me wrong, I owned RA from new too |
| 20:42.35 | marajin | but I bought the first decade set when it came out too |
| 20:42.53 | marajin | and yeah I have SC and broodwars |
| 20:46.21 | marajin | ginge: Oh yeah, I just remembered my super thief exploit for ultima 8 |
| 20:46.52 | ALoGeNo | hey nigths guys, can i broke the radio rom usin linux in my universal? |
| 20:47.22 | marajin | ginge: the joy of just walking into the shop, whipping out your roll up bed matt and going to sleep till the shop closed, stealing everything in sight, going back to sleep and walking out in the morning. |
| 20:48.00 | ginge | I am judt watching a show where somthing like that happened |
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| 20:48.19 | marajin | yeah but I used to do it on the floor in front of the store owners |
| 20:48.22 | marajin | silly buggers |
| 20:48.31 | ginge | O.o |
| 20:48.34 | marajin | that or I'd stand in the next room and grab stuff off the end of the table |
| 20:48.48 | marajin | well it's a very old game, the AI was a bit daft ;) |
| 20:48.53 | ALoGeNo | hum.. im like the glass.. i like it.. hum hum.. ;) |
| 20:49.18 | marajin | you could convince the guy supposed to stop you commiting murder and stuff to blow himself up |
| 20:49.21 | ginge | unlikely. cant see that happening in dixons |
| 20:49.26 | ALoGeNo | nobody knows my question? please? |
| 20:49.26 | marajin | I convinced him to drown himself once |
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| 20:49.52 | ginge | ALoGeNo: very unlikely (now decide which question I answered ;) ) |
| 20:50.11 | ALoGeNo | hey nigths guys, can i broke the radio rom usin linux in my universal? that one |
| 20:50.12 | marajin | ginge: I'm talking about the Ultima 8 game, ya know... They don't have a dixons in tenebrae :p |
| 20:51.10 | ginge | marajin: no shit. I didn't take you for a crazy kleptomaniac |
| 20:51.22 | ALoGeNo | i have some insues with the activation of wifi in wm after play with debian in the universal.. |
| 20:51.49 | marajin | there's a website somewhere with a guy who just set his mission in life to basically completely break the ultima games |
| 20:51.54 | ginge | ALoGeNo: I have that problem on my laptop/ Turning it off and on a few times generally sorts it |
| 20:52.04 | ALoGeNo | i cant activate the wifi |
| 20:52.29 | ginge | odd |
| 20:52.40 | ginge | hard reset fix it? |
| 20:52.41 | ALoGeNo | nothing.., the radio rom have the part of wireless card? |
| 20:53.41 | ALoGeNo | hr not the best option hehe i need to know why that is happend :) |
| 20:54.06 | ginge | if you boot back into debian does it work? |
| 20:54.16 | ALoGeNo | but thank you in any case :) |
| 20:54.29 | ALoGeNo | yeah by the face.. |
| 20:54.47 | ginge | by the face? |
| 20:55.18 | ALoGeNo | in debian runs like allways.. driver experimental somes disconections but run |
| 20:55.51 | ALoGeNo | oh sorry.. hehe spanish expression :) " por la cara " by the face, is like yeah sure.. |
| 20:56.21 | ginge | I assume you have tried combinations of disabling wifi in debian and booting to wm etc |
| 20:56.26 | ALoGeNo | but more street language,., "argot" |
| 20:57.27 | ginge | the other thing you could try is to boot into spl/bootloader and enable it there. |
| 20:57.27 | ALoGeNo | yep i do.. |
| 20:57.52 | ALoGeNo | oh i see.... if i touch something in debian that can save the config and run qith that in wm, that you mean? |
| 20:58.19 | ALoGeNo | something like mode monitor hehe no? |
| 20:58.59 | ginge | not sure what I mean, but you can talk to the devices in the bootloader. You should be able to get state information, such as the associated gpios and see what makes it break by comparing with haret |
| 20:59.02 | ALoGeNo | i can try to turn off the mode monitor in the wlan and later reboot to wm :) |
| 20:59.31 | ALoGeNo | understud.. |
| 21:00.05 | ALoGeNo | that things can changes the kernel no? |
| 21:00.41 | ginge | "by the face" has me thinking... we have a similar expression "as plain as the nose on your face" which means it was obvious. Very very similar :) |
| 21:01.12 | ALoGeNo | oh nice hehe |
| 21:01.41 | ginge | brb |
| 21:01.59 | ALoGeNo | yeah we are all the day with " por la cara , or "ya de digo" that is like i tell you.. |
| 21:02.18 | ALoGeNo | or... i say to you.. |
| 21:03.03 | ALoGeNo | i tell you now.. ( i dont know how express that. ;)) |
| 21:03.37 | ALoGeNo | but well, i will try that to see if run the wifi of the hell :) |
| 21:03.56 | ALoGeNo | tnx a lot for your help :) |
| 21:09.04 | dcordes | back |
| 21:09.49 | marajin | wb dcordes |
| 21:10.13 | dcordes | sighs |
| 21:10.20 | dcordes | the navy in red alert 1 |
| 21:10.33 | dcordes | I played red alert 2 online for a while |
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| 21:15.00 | dcordes | marajin, did you try SD flashing? |
| 21:15.23 | dcordes | it's a nice alternative to usb flashing and seems reliable |
| 21:15.55 | marajin | dcordes: nope, usb flashing works perfectly for me |
| 21:16.55 | dcordes | did you try from linux? |
| 21:16.59 | marajin | No |
| 21:17.03 | dcordes | me n'either |
| 21:17.25 | marajin | I figure, it works on windows, it's never gone wrong for me, why should I bother? |
| 21:19.08 | dcordes | idk let me answer with a question. why did pof make the open source flash utility? |
| 21:20.41 | ali1234 | well the mtty functionality is handy |
| 21:21.00 | ali1234 | the flashing parts dont work on wizard. too old. |
| 21:21.44 | dcordes | mtty is the usb/serial? |
| 21:21.50 | marajin | dcordes: Because some people think that everything should work on linux just because it's there? |
| 21:21.54 | ali1234 | yes for bootloader command prompt |
| 21:22.08 | ali1234 | everything *should* work on linux!!! |
| 21:22.10 | marajin | I mean seriously, the choice is nice but I have no need for it personally |
| 21:22.15 | dcordes | marajin, maybe |
| 21:22.37 | marajin | ali1234: What, even stuff like aero? |
| 21:22.49 | ali1234 | yeah, it's called "compiz-fusion" |
| 21:22.57 | ali1234 | and it's way better than aero :P |
| 21:22.57 | dcordes | ali1234, I've seen it is present for older htcs also, but with fewer commands |
| 21:23.06 | marajin | ali1234: Hey maybe we'll get WinFS ! |
| 21:23.17 | marajin | ali1234: and yeah, compiz and whatnot really really shame aero |
| 21:23.29 | marajin | twice as much on half the hardware |
| 21:23.51 | ginge | ~lart marajin |
| 21:23.51 | apt | cuts off marajin's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 21:24.32 | ali1234 | yeah the zooming is a real killer feature. i really miss it when i have to use windows. |
| 21:24.34 | marajin | Then again, last time I used it, it was about as stable as a schitzophrenic ginge on amphetamines |
| 21:24.51 | marajin | but it was fast |
| 21:24.58 | marajin | and did more useful stuff |
| 21:25.16 | dcordes | did you use the git bleeding ebuild? |
| 21:25.21 | dcordes | :P |
| 21:25.35 | marajin | dcordes: Nah I just haven't used it in like.. 2 years |
| 21:25.50 | ali1234 | a lot of the plugins are unstable but ubuntu is pretty good about disabling stuff like that |
| 21:25.52 | marajin | vista hadn't actually been released at the time and was still in beta |
| 21:26.59 | marajin | I'm sure it's much stabler now as long as you don't use dodgy plugins yeah |
| 21:29.11 | dcordes | ali1234, do you know what the msm7200 OEMSBL commands do? |
| 21:29.19 | ali1234 | no idea |
| 21:29.34 | ali1234 | what commands are they? |
| 21:29.49 | ali1234 | SPL commands/mtty? |
| 21:30.46 | dcordes | it's not spl, OEMSBL is earlier |
| 21:30.46 | dcordes | only the arm9 is used I think |
| 21:30.56 | ali1234 | don't know then... wizard only has IPL and SPL, and IPL can't talk to the outside world |
| 21:30.58 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369754 |
| 21:31.36 | dcordes | it provides 3 'virtual' serial devices on the usb |
| 21:32.03 | dcordes | AT arm9-debug and NMEA |
| 21:32.30 | ali1234 | ah wizard has something similar but it is built in to the SPL and works totally differently |
| 21:33.03 | ali1234 | you enter an SPL command and it gives you a direct connection the radio AT interface |
| 21:33.15 | dcordes | same with kaiser OEMSBL |
| 21:33.53 | dcordes | just that it has seperate lines |
| 21:34.39 | ali1234 | yeah... well... on the wizard we have to load the radio rom with the main cpu before the coprocessor will do anything. i guess on kaiser it is loaded automatically on boot? |
| 21:36.10 | dcordes | the arm9 (modem processor) ? |
| 21:36.59 | ali1234 | yeah |
| 21:37.26 | dcordes | I think so |
| 21:37.30 | ali1234 | but on wizard the main cpu is arm9 and the modem processor is arm7 |
| 21:38.14 | marajin | I think the arm9 on the kaiser is essentially almost independant system which contains all the necessary stuff to boot itself and run independant |
| 21:38.42 | ali1234 | yeah if it had it's own flash, that would make sense |
| 21:39.08 | ali1234 | that would explain why there is a separate set of commands for it anyway |
| 21:39.58 | marajin | mmhmm |
| 21:40.55 | marajin | I'm left wondering why there's not been much done to the radio roms actually. |
| 21:41.16 | marajin | I mean we know they're pretty much self sustained linux system right? |
| 21:42.18 | ali1234 | well... there isn't much point |
| 21:42.27 | ali1234 | if it aint broke... |
| 21:42.33 | marajin | It wouldn't give us any useful info? |
| 21:43.10 | ali1234 | it would give you info how to make the radio work... but it already does |
| 21:43.25 | marajin | well yeah |
| 21:43.57 | marajin | But sounds like a few people on here have wished for more control over the radio |
| 21:45.36 | miknix | does anyone know who provides the sources for libipkg? |
| 21:45.38 | dcordes | marajin, http://code.google.com/p/qcbqsanalyzer/ if you are interested in the AMSS guts |
| 21:45.52 | marajin | yeah I know of it |
| 21:46.08 | dcordes | http://forum.modopo.com/diskussionen-rund-ums-modding/t-19197-qc-bqs-firmware-analyzer.html |
| 21:47.19 | marajin | anyway I think it may well be sleepy time soon |
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| 22:11.06 | herriojr | sorry, I haven't gotten a chance to work on the sd card issue |
| 22:11.10 | herriojr | they keep throwing new stuff my way |
| 22:11.31 | marajin | herriojr: Cover it in nitroglycerin and throw it back. |
| 22:11.41 | marajin | :) |
| 22:12.35 | herriojr | lol |
| 22:13.24 | marajin | Well I guarantee they wouldn't throw it your way again, on account of it having exploded and removed theirhands |
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| 23:00.22 | kring_ | good morning. |
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| 23:02.14 | kring_ | dcordes: did "usb passthru" work on your kaiser? |
| 23:35.36 | kring_ | anyone mmutraced 0x4a20c000 .. 0x4a30b000 in kaiser? |
| 23:36.31 | dcordes | maybe somebody traced it |
| 23:36.45 | dcordes | but if it's not in the mem map, it's likely that nobody found anything in it |
| 23:39.11 | kring_ | there are 3 virtual address mapped to the same phy addr "0x1f00000" |
| 23:40.04 | dcordes | we've noticed that before |
| 23:40.29 | dcordes | but only one of them is reachable in wince |
| 23:40.33 | dcordes | iirc |
| 23:40.52 | dcordes | just trace all 3 if you are not sure |
| 23:40.54 | kring_ | mmutrace on 0xb510000(1M) got nothing in my kaiser |
| 23:41.25 | kring_ | neight the other 1M block. |
| 23:41.59 | kring_ | only 0x4a20c000 got reports. |
| 23:42.22 | kring_ | but in hret log: 4a20c000 | 01f00000 | Small (4K) | AP=3000 |
| 23:42.23 | kring_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.23 | kring_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.23 | kring_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.23 | kring_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.23 | kring_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.06 | dcordes | do you know the p2v function? |
| 23:43.13 | dcordes | to trace physical |
| 23:43.26 | kring_ | no. |
| 23:43.43 | dcordes | I'm really sorry I forgot most of the smem tracing stuff once the smem worked half way |
| 23:43.56 | dcordes | one thing always works: dumping the memory |
| 23:44.03 | kring_ | yes. |
| 23:44.36 | kring_ | did you noticed the memory around 0x60000? |
| 23:44.53 | kring_ | +0x60000, a lot of "Unamed Task" strings |
| 23:45.16 | dcordes | those strings are familiar yes |
| 23:46.23 | kring_ | it has similar parten in Unknown2 send(recv) channel |
| 23:46.59 | kring_ | s/parten/pattern/g :) |
| 23:47.02 | dcordes | that's one of the 3 new ones right? |
| 23:47.10 | kring_ | no |
| 23:47.38 | kring_ | one of the first 2 unkown, the other one is found as agps |
| 23:49.24 | kring_ | the same pattern in Unknown2 send, recv and 0x60??? is "byte1 00 80 00 00 byte2" |
| 23:51.07 | kring_ | it may be a kind of packet header. |
| 23:51.52 | dcordes | I have some dumps of the full 1M of smem |
| 23:55.04 | dcordes | I have only single letters there |
| 23:55.10 | dcordes | in the 0x60??? |
| 23:57.15 | dcordes | kring_, there's a lot of white noise and then things like this |
| 23:57.18 | dcordes | 00060700 30 00 20 81 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 00 0a 80 05 00 |0. .............| |
| 23:57.18 | dcordes | 00060710 b9 55 82 2d 00 00 00 02 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.U.-............| |
| 23:57.18 | dcordes | 00060720 1b 00 05 00 c7 57 82 2d 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |.....W.-........| |
| 23:59.02 | ginge | I know, I will diff against my current .25 and cull the crap. I will them do a local merge of clean sd driver code, and manually update to the new changes. sigh |
| 23:59.09 | ginge | err |