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| 08:15.38 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 08:17.15 | kring | hello |
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| 08:29.27 | dcordes | mornnning |
| 08:33.16 | kring | decordes: morning |
| 08:38.38 | dcordes | kring: hey. any news? |
| 08:40.35 | dcordes | i have seen your question about haret |
| 08:40.42 | kring | dcordes: no news. I sent dz a mail |
| 08:41.02 | kring | no prob now. i downloaded one from you size. |
| 08:41.19 | dcordes | ok |
| 08:41.36 | dcordes | google for handhelds.org and haret |
| 08:42.05 | dcordes | then you will find a website with several recent versions |
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| 11:11.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: around ? |
| 11:12.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 11:13.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: a just discover that a coworker near me have a 60csx :) |
| 11:13.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: can i do something with GT and 60Csx ? |
| 11:14.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: sure :) http://www.qlandkarte.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9&Itemid=10 |
| 11:15.23 | kiozen | But you need ti install the plugins from QLandkarte |
| 11:15.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: does 60csx accept geotiff ? |
| 11:15.50 | kiozen | BabelO_: no - that would be state of the art |
| 11:16.11 | BabelO_ | ok :( that the only thing i want to know |
| 11:16.11 | kiozen | BabelO_: Garmin does not do such decent things |
| 11:16.41 | kiozen | BabelO_: But I use GT exclusively these days |
| 11:16.43 | BabelO_ | kiozen: your feature list is too long :) you need tabs :) |
| 11:17.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: bah just use the scrollwheel |
| 11:17.13 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is this google maps search function ? |
| 11:17.50 | kiozen | BabelO_: it's the search dialog on the left hand side |
| 11:18.05 | kiozen | BabelO_: but you have to open the splitters |
| 11:18.14 | BabelO_ | cool |
| 11:18.19 | BabelO_ | i did not see it before :) |
| 11:18.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: that _is_ the most important dialog! |
| 11:19.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: it let you find locations, it will convert coords of any format... |
| 11:20.17 | BabelO_ | i see |
| 11:20.29 | BabelO_ | and it let me see if my maps are well positionned |
| 11:20.40 | kiozen | right :) |
| 11:21.24 | kiozen | I have hardly any session without using it |
| 11:21.39 | BabelO_ | it s perfect tools GT |
| 11:21.49 | BabelO_ | i really need to finish artemis support |
| 11:22.01 | kiozen | it's getting pretty nice now. |
| 11:22.56 | kiozen | I have to send my loox away for ruggedizing the next weeks, I think I will port the Garmin map support to GT during this time |
| 11:24.04 | BabelO_ | what s that "ruggedizing" ? |
| 11:24.29 | kiozen | http://www.andres-industries.de/rugged_pda/ |
| 11:27.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i never heard that some company do that |
| 11:27.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: that was the reason to buy a loox, not because it has such a brillant hardware and 100% Linux support ;) |
| 11:28.16 | BabelO_ | ok i understand now :) |
| 11:28.34 | kiozen | BabelO_: compared to other rugged ppc they are a real bargain |
| 11:32.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what support do you miss in loox now ? |
| 11:32.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: suspend/resume, stable BT, battery |
| 11:33.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: suspend / resume still does not work ? |
| 11:33.38 | kiozen | BabelO_: suspend does, but I will never resume or resume into wince |
| 11:34.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok fiightinh meeting now :) |
| 11:34.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: and I suspect the kernel to drain too much power |
| 11:34.23 | BabelO_ | bbl |
| 11:34.34 | kiozen | good luck |
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| 11:57.16 | ALoGeNo | hi all you guys :) |
| 11:58.00 | ALoGeNo | hey BabelO morning :) |
| 12:07.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: finished, i win :) |
| 12:07.51 | BabelO_ | hi ALoGeNo |
| 12:07.58 | kiozen | stike!! |
| 12:08.17 | ALoGeNo | hey |
| 12:08.17 | kiozen | s/stike/strike |
| 12:08.32 | ALoGeNo | cmonex come by here no? |
| 12:08.40 | ALoGeNo | for* |
| 12:08.51 | ALoGeNo | comes* :P |
| 12:09.19 | ALoGeNo | or i see him in #xdav-dev channel? |
| 12:10.14 | ALoGeNo | i have recive just now my NEC mobile 900c second hand by 100 :) |
| 12:10.21 | ALoGeNo | free shipping :D |
| 12:11.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: why do you think kernel drain too much power ? |
| 12:11.56 | kiozen | BabelO_: the pda worked with it's 1200mAh battery for ~5 h, next to no lcd usage |
| 12:12.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: it is told to work for 4 h with mpeg strem and lcd on |
| 12:13.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: haret reports a power consuption that would make 6-8 h possible |
| 12:13.55 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, did you check that all cpld init port are set to 0 ? |
| 12:14.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: when booting from haret? |
| 12:14.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no, in linux, there is a default init value for cpld |
| 12:15.12 | BabelO_ | or maybe it is latest driver only |
| 12:15.19 | kiozen | BabelO_: I can check this evening |
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| 12:16.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: have to do some boring VDSL performance monitor first :( |
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| 12:24.00 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah you are at work :) |
| 12:24.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: yep, can't do hollidays all the time :) |
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| 13:49.05 | BabelO_ | ola patoche |
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| 13:59.17 | joss | hi ali1234 |
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| 14:04.52 | Poohba | where are screenshots of linux on a htc model similar to s620/T-Mobile Dash? |
| 14:05.40 | Poohba | I just upgraded to wm 6.1 and I actually like it but I want to see if the appearance of linux would make me put in the work since no one else has seem to have done it for my model |
| 14:07.17 | NAiL | Poohba: that'd be the HTC Excalibur |
| 14:07.53 | joss | http://www.usbcell.com/products i guess those are not ment for charging usb devices, yes? |
| 14:08.13 | joss | instead charging those batteries from powered usb itself:( |
| 14:10.57 | Poohba | NAiL: that isn't supported neither it seems so... any screenshots of any htc smart phone? |
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| 15:22.10 | joss | dcordes: so you are sure that htc usb ports are not powered, try with wm system if you have an usn gadget please? |
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| 15:33.55 | joss | http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8298, something like this, just curious, aren't there really some slimmer 5v energy sources then 2xNIMH? |
| 15:36.06 | joss | http://www.usbcell.com/product/6 like this one |
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| 15:40.01 | br0nt0l0 | evening |
| 15:43.51 | br0nt0l0 | hi BabelO :) |
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| 16:05.07 | marajin | gah, damn oom-killer |
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| 16:08.12 | joss | marajin: hi |
| 16:08.16 | joss | marajin: http://www.aiptek.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=R-ZPT-NP60&Category_Code=CA-BC&Store_Code=2F |
| 16:08.41 | joss | that is 4.2v, i can not belive that 5v ones should be really 13mm thick |
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| 16:08.54 | joss | marajin: can you find a 5v li-on battery? |
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| 16:19.16 | joss | marajin: seems like true, powering usb devices externarlly seems weird ..they need a big battery |
| 16:19.49 | joss | marajin: not possible to use 2x3.7v batteries:)? |
| 16:24.23 | br0nt0l0 | scuse my english |
| 16:24.45 | br0nt0l0 | 4 install linux to hw6915 |
| 16:24.59 | br0nt0l0 | where is bootloader |
| 16:25.01 | br0nt0l0 | and |
| 16:25.13 | br0nt0l0 | where is linux image? |
| 16:25.20 | br0nt0l0 | thanks to all |
| 16:26.46 | br0nt0l0 | i'm tested haret (0.4.7 and 0.5.1) |
| 16:26.56 | br0nt0l0 | but in not good |
| 16:27.42 | br0nt0l0 | for image qtopia and openmoko but i have not free spae in my ipaq |
| 16:27.47 | br0nt0l0 | howto? |
| 16:28.01 | br0nt0l0 | please, ... :......( |
| 16:28.08 | br0nt0l0 | help me |
| 16:29.33 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: what's the device ? |
| 16:29.47 | tsdogs | hm ok hw6915 |
| 16:30.04 | br0nt0l0 | tsdogs, hp model hw6915 |
| 16:30.18 | br0nt0l0 | it's smartphone |
| 16:30.27 | br0nt0l0 | with gps |
| 16:30.37 | br0nt0l0 | keyboard |
| 16:30.41 | br0nt0l0 | wifi |
| 16:30.45 | tsdogs | which makes it a sable... |
| 16:31.03 | br0nt0l0 | where is download page? |
| 16:31.58 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: don't think hw6915 is usable with linux... |
| 16:32.07 | br0nt0l0 | i'm read documentacion |
| 16:32.10 | br0nt0l0 | uhm |
| 16:32.38 | br0nt0l0 | why? |
| 16:33.00 | br0nt0l0 | i have intallated linux on ipaq 3900 |
| 16:33.08 | br0nt0l0 | and it's worked |
| 16:33.30 | br0nt0l0 | and palm os TE2 |
| 16:33.38 | br0nt0l0 | and work's |
| 16:34.00 | br0nt0l0 | why hw6915 worked only win$ ? |
| 16:34.10 | br0nt0l0 | :...( |
| 16:34.47 | tsdogs | hmm, there are sable drivers in kernel tree... |
| 16:35.09 | tsdogs | but I think you'd need to build a kernel yourself. |
| 16:35.29 | tsdogs | what did you download ? |
| 16:35.37 | br0nt0l0 | uhm |
| 16:35.39 | br0nt0l0 | wait |
| 16:37.48 | br0nt0l0 | to openmoko |
| 16:37.56 | br0nt0l0 | by openmokowebsite |
| 16:38.34 | br0nt0l0 | for documentacion by opie and gpie website |
| 16:38.46 | br0nt0l0 | i'm look it : |
| 16:38.55 | br0nt0l0 | http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/SupportedHandheldSummary |
| 16:39.29 | br0nt0l0 | but i'm stope |
| 16:39.31 | br0nt0l0 | but i'm stoped |
| 16:39.50 | br0nt0l0 | you help me? |
| 16:39.50 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: ok but if you look at it the hw6900 (htcsable) is somehow supported... |
| 16:40.24 | br0nt0l0 | yes |
| 16:40.27 | tsdogs | I don't know anybody on this list wich has a hw6900, but let me check a bit if there's some more info. |
| 16:40.56 | br0nt0l0 | but is not link, |
| 16:41.34 | br0nt0l0 | i'm read documentation the treo |
| 16:42.18 | br0nt0l0 | but it is only telephone |
| 16:42.26 | br0nt0l0 | and palm |
| 16:42.45 | tsdogs | Marex: you own a hw6915 ? |
| 16:46.44 | BabelO | tsdogs: lkcl do the port for htcsable, kernel should be in hh |
| 16:47.24 | tsdogs | BabelO: yep I saw it, but no images available so was wondering if there's any :) |
| 16:47.35 | BabelO | tsdogs: no, no image |
| 16:48.00 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: sorry, but if you want linux on hw6915 you'd need to build a kernel and then an image... |
| 16:48.25 | br0nt0l0 | ok |
| 16:48.29 | br0nt0l0 | thanks |
| 16:48.38 | br0nt0l0 | but |
| 16:48.49 | br0nt0l0 | where is first step? |
| 16:48.57 | br0nt0l0 | i do know |
| 16:49.41 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/UniversalKernel start from here and replace universal with sable ... |
| 16:50.03 | tsdogs | then you'd need an OE / Angstrom build system for the images... |
| 16:50.53 | tsdogs | BabelO: I saw a patch from Marek so was wondering if it was marex :) |
| 16:50.57 | br0nt0l0 | and the bootloader? |
| 16:51.06 | br0nt0l0 | haret is ok? |
| 16:51.18 | BabelO | tsdogs: yes it is |
| 16:51.26 | br0nt0l0 | ok |
| 16:51.42 | br0nt0l0 | if i install linux |
| 16:51.45 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: yes, you'll need an SD / microSD / minSD |
| 16:51.55 | br0nt0l0 | i'm post howto |
| 16:51.58 | tsdogs | BabelO: :) |
| 16:52.09 | br0nt0l0 | thanks to all |
| 16:52.24 | br0nt0l0 | i'm work for this project |
| 16:53.34 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: let us know if it works :) |
| 16:54.13 | br0nt0l0 | eh eh eh |
| 16:56.13 | goxboxlive | hi |
| 16:56.13 | goxboxlive | I am testing the new qtopia image for my NEO :-) Updating to 4.3.3 now |
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| 16:59.51 | goxboxlive | hmmm it's slow |
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| 17:00.37 | herriojr | ok, now I can dedicate my life to the sd card issue :) |
| 17:01.09 | br0nt0l0 | this link is dead |
| 17:01.10 | br0nt0l0 | : |
| 17:01.12 | br0nt0l0 | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/images/ramdisk/Ramdisk.cab |
| 17:01.27 | br0nt0l0 | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html |
| 17:01.50 | br0nt0l0 | @#ù!"£"£"$2!!"! |
| 17:02.17 | goxboxlive | br0nt0l0: seems like linuxtogo is offline |
| 17:02.29 | goxboxlive | it will be back, i havent deleted the images |
| 17:03.40 | br0nt0l0 | and i ? |
| 17:03.43 | Miek | cheers for herriojr |
| 17:03.46 | br0nt0l0 | waiting? |
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| 17:12.25 | Marex | tsdogs: I do have 6515 ... it's mostly the same |
| 17:14.55 | br0nt0l0 | i (translate : "vendere") my ipaq' |
| 17:15.21 | br0nt0l0 | it's no good for my experiment |
| 17:16.23 | br0nt0l0 | i'm not like have to hardware windows based |
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| 17:32.46 | br0nt0l0 | us read later |
| 17:32.49 | br0nt0l0 | by |
| 17:32.57 | br0nt0l0 | good work's |
| 17:33.05 | br0nt0l0 | buy |
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| 18:02.34 | tsdogs | goxboxlive: 4.3.3 ? is it out? |
| 18:02.59 | tsdogs | br0nt0l0: you want to sell your ipaq? |
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| 18:03.22 | Hydra | hiya |
| 18:03.31 | Hydra | i was just reading this: |
| 18:03.34 | Hydra | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt |
| 18:03.49 | Hydra | and it says "Copy haret.exe, default.txt, zImage.bin and android.bin into one folder on your kaiser, run haret.exe" |
| 18:04.09 | Hydra | does it mean to the on-board ram, or on to the sd/sdhc card? |
| 18:04.50 | tsdogs | Hydra: I think it's sd... |
| 18:04.59 | Hydra | that's what i thught |
| 18:05.08 | Hydra | i did that and trun haret |
| 18:05.15 | Hydra | and it started booting linux |
| 18:05.28 | Hydra | i got a tux penguin and a bunch of console io text |
| 18:05.37 | Hydra | then it dies with a kernel panic |
| 18:05.59 | Hydra | is using an HTC Kaiser/Tytn II |
| 18:06.09 | tsdogs | what's the error before the panic? |
| 18:06.24 | Hydra | 1 sec, it's pretty small |
| 18:07.04 | Hydra | there's a massic trace |
| 18:07.13 | Hydra | but i can't see the top of it as it scrolls off screen |
| 18:07.35 | Hydra | i can see the last few lines of it |
| 18:07.57 | tsdogs | and what does it say? |
| 18:08.16 | Hydra | do you want me to type stuff out? |
| 18:08.23 | Hydra | or shall i just give you a few keywords? |
| 18:08.48 | tsdogs | Hydra: keywords :) |
| 18:08.59 | Hydra | platform_driver_register, msmsdcc_init |
| 18:09.13 | Hydra | then |
| 18:09.25 | Hydra | kernel_init, do_exit |
| 18:09.47 | Hydra | there's a CODE line with 4 number and another number in ()'s useful? |
| 18:10.22 | tsdogs | don't think so... |
| 18:10.25 | Hydra | near the top of the screen i see: |
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| 18:10.39 | tsdogs | are u using zimage 2.6.25 or the other one= |
| 18:10.42 | tsdogs | ? |
| 18:11.08 | Hydra | vogue_get_egpio, vogude_sdcc_slot_status,msmsdcc_probe,platform_drv_probe |
| 18:11.26 | Hydra | bs_for_each_dev, bus_add_driver, driver_register |
| 18:11.58 | Hydra | i was using the one from here: |
| 18:12.01 | Hydra | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 18:12.08 | tsdogs | isn't there something cannot mount root or something like that? |
| 18:12.15 | Hydra | from the link - "Everything you need to boot with a filesystem on an SD card. (m5 Version)" |
| 18:12.46 | tsdogs | Hydra: ok but vouge != kaiser afaik |
| 18:12.57 | Hydra | do the files have to be in the root of the sd card or can they be in a sub folder? |
| 18:13.05 | Hydra | oh shit yeah :D |
| 18:13.07 | Hydra | d0h |
| 18:13.13 | Hydra | that's explain it |
| 18:13.16 | Hydra | lol |
| 18:13.27 | Hydra | it was linked from here: |
| 18:13.27 | Hydra | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782 |
| 18:13.38 | Hydra | which says: "REMEMBER THIS IS ONLY FOR THE KAISER!!!" |
| 18:13.51 | Hydra | hence my assumption |
| 18:14.05 | tsdogs | lol |
| 18:14.12 | Hydra | I'll grab the other files and try them |
| 18:16.53 | Hydra | ok, trying the new ones... |
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| 18:17.18 | Hydra | booting.... |
| 18:17.42 | ginge | has now booted. Ready for interactive operation. |
| 18:17.45 | Hydra | that's better |
| 18:17.50 | Hydra | tsdogs, thanks for the pointer! |
| 18:18.05 | tsdogs | Hydra: no prob |
| 18:18.32 | Hydra | it booted! |
| 18:18.41 | Hydra | i'm looking at a nice ui! |
| 18:18.43 | Hydra | coolness |
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| 18:18.51 | Hydra | anything you want me to check? |
| 18:19.38 | marajin | 'lo ginge ;) |
| 18:19.51 | marajin | ginge: Number 5 alive? ;) |
| 18:21.21 | ginge | marajin: need inpuuut. Whats been going down, anything fun? |
| 18:21.53 | marajin | ginge: I feel decided meh, and oom-killer has been going nuts on perses and I don't quite know why. |
| 18:21.59 | Hydra | innnnnnnput :D |
| 18:22.01 | Hydra | lol |
| 18:22.33 | ginge | Hydra: what you booting there with the nice ui? |
| 18:22.36 | marajin | ginge: I've just forced Mailscanner out of existence and now I appear to have far more RAM free than is typical. |
| 18:22.53 | ginge | marajin: reeeeeeboot |
| 18:23.07 | marajin | ginge: It's been rebooted, when oom-killer gets going the system is fucked |
| 18:23.15 | ginge | hmm |
| 18:23.16 | marajin | ginge: ya know what oom-killer is like, it'll kill randomly |
| 18:23.31 | tsdogs | Hydra: actually do not own a vouge, but Martin would like to get a report :) |
| 18:23.44 | marajin | ginge: When it triggers, end up losing ssh, http, the lot. |
| 18:23.55 | ginge | marajin: maybe more ram time |
| 18:23.56 | marajin | ginge: If I don't spot it soon enough I even lose physical access. |
| 18:24.09 | marajin | ginge: Nah it's not a ram issue I think something's leaking RAM. |
| 18:24.25 | ginge | if oom-killer starts a killing spree you know you got some serious issues |
| 18:25.00 | marajin | ginge: Basically I've got _less_ services running than previously and I've gone from 6 month uptime to oom-killer going apeshit every day or two. |
| 18:25.19 | ginge | marajin: nasty |
| 18:26.49 | marajin | It may have been mailscanner.. like I said getting rid of mailscanner has literally left the system as only using er ~300MB of RAM without X/kde running. |
| 18:26.52 | Hydra | ooh i crashed it |
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| 18:27.32 | marajin | ginge: Even if I load up kde, ktorrent, kopete, etc. I'm showing er.. 992 use, 744 cached :P |
| 18:31.02 | tsdogs | marajin: maybe it's not the case... but you never know :) http://www.us-cert.gov/current/index.html#ssh_key_based_attacks |
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| 18:42.26 | Hydra | hmm, crashed it a few times now, battery out each time |
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| 19:01.47 | Hydra | yeah, any time something tries to make a data connectio it dies |
| 19:02.02 | Hydra | i tired to make a call but it just sits there at "Dailing..." |
| 19:02.22 | Hydra | any ideas what i need to do (or even were to start looking) to fix my issues? |
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| 19:04.34 | Hydra | this guy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2344183&postcount=482 |
| 19:04.44 | Hydra | says he's using the same radio version as i am |
| 19:05.15 | Hydra | iy always shows a "G" symbol and one bar though |
| 19:07.49 | Raketemensch | does this: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ get updated? |
| 19:08.00 | Raketemensch | just wondering if there's newer stuff than 8/29 |
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| 19:08.12 | Raketemensch | then again, that was only 4 days ago |
| 19:11.56 | dcordes | ginge: You've got mail |
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| 19:13.21 | dcordes | oh I didn't notice they finally make use of the msm video output on rpahael |
| 19:13.53 | ginge | dcordes: thanks for the mail... we have all of that done already + some more. |
| 19:14.16 | ginge | dcordes: the nature of the mmc issue is not missing interrupts... |
| 19:15.04 | dcordes | ok |
| 19:15.41 | ginge | I have a partial dump of the dma transaction... one mo I will put it up |
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| 19:16.56 | dcordes | maybe dzo has a thought or two about it |
| 19:17.45 | ginge | headfuzz.co.uk/files/Android/sderror-extrapolated.txt |
| 19:18.15 | dcordes | typo in there? it directs me to your front page |
| 19:18.27 | ginge | maybe |
| 19:18.50 | ginge | headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated.txt |
| 19:18.51 | dcordes | headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated.txt |
| 19:18.51 | lama | google chrome is available (windows version only) |
| 19:18.58 | dcordes | wooooooooohooooooooooooooooo |
| 19:19.32 | ginge | hmm. ok so why do we need another browser again? and what is this "Windows"? |
| 19:21.26 | kiozen | ginge: don't know, look at the wall |
| 19:21.50 | ginge | kiozen: I am a ginge, and therefor have no windows |
| 19:22.38 | kiozen | ginge: ah, linux is like tippi... |
| 19:23.40 | ginge | dcordes: so in that minimal logging transaction, you have two dma transactions. The top one is a good transaction, and the bottom one is the failed transaction. Interesting to note is that with a few carefully placed bits of code, can get it to fail on the same sector every time |
| 19:24.37 | marajin | ginge: Liiiies, I am a ginge and therefore I merely abhorr windows, doesn't mean I don't HAVE it :p |
| 19:25.15 | ginge | marajin: if I had to choose I would live in an underground bunker |
| 19:26.00 | marajin | ginge: hah, I know the feeling |
| 19:28.37 | ginge | dcordes: in that last transaction it interrupts instantly after trying to queue the dma command with some sort of (as yet to be determined error) |
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| 19:51.31 | kiozen | BabelO: something like proximity waypoints is working now, svn up |
| 19:53.41 | BabelO | kiozen: done :) |
| 19:54.14 | kiozen | BabelO: it zooms to level 1 and should play a sound, can't test sound here |
| 19:54.34 | kiozen | BabelO: you need to define a proximity range |
| 19:54.40 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i can test on blueangel if my image is still installed |
| 19:54.52 | BabelO | kiozen: yes i see in GT |
| 19:55.09 | kiozen | BabelO: you can edit in M, too |
| 19:55.42 | kiozen | think I have to buildin some hysteresis |
| 19:55.57 | BabelO | kiozen: yes but too small screen, dialog is badly sized |
| 19:56.19 | kiozen | bah, get yourself a decent lcd ;) |
| 19:57.47 | BabelO | kiozen: hmm |
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| 19:58.31 | marajin | Pizza delivery is only ever slow when you're bloody hungry :( |
| 19:58.33 | kiozen | that freerunner looks nice |
| 19:59.08 | marajin | Not sure I entirely trust the production quality of the moko phones yet to be spending the cash |
| 19:59.13 | BabelO | kiozen: yes it look nice |
| 19:59.22 | marajin | then again, some of the big names are still dubious quality |
| 20:00.04 | marajin | I guess what disinclines me from getting a moko phone is that I'd have to purchase it outright instead of getting it bundled with a monthly tariff |
| 20:00.04 | kiozen | still wait for the hw engineers to build me a real nice reference mobile device |
| 20:01.01 | dcordes_ | kiozen: definetly a nice display |
| 20:01.38 | kiozen | yes and they could skip the phone part and make it waterproof :) |
| 20:02.15 | kiozen | is still tempted to spend money on one of these active 10 units |
| 20:02.28 | marajin | Why do you want it waterproof? |
| 20:03.06 | kiozen | standing in the woods right in the rain is a bad place for a water sensitive device :) |
| 20:05.10 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 20:05.19 | marajin | hands Kiozen a clear plastic bag |
| 20:05.21 | marajin | hey Zoolooc |
| 20:05.38 | kiozen | bah, not the same |
| 20:05.56 | marajin | Yeah, it's cheaper and probably more effective ;) |
| 20:05.57 | Zoolooc | ginge said he's a ginge and therefore has no windows... |
| 20:06.14 | marajin | So? |
| 20:06.18 | Zoolooc | well, I searched google about the term ginge and found this: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ginge |
| 20:06.31 | marajin | It means redhaired yeah |
| 20:06.50 | Zoolooc | well, actually lots of meanings |
| 20:07.03 | kiozen | marhttp://www.satmap.com/ |
| 20:07.07 | kiozen | oops |
| 20:07.22 | kiozen | marajin: http://www.satmap.com/ that is more what I think of |
| 20:07.30 | ginge | Zoolooc: those other meanings don't apply ( mostly ;) ) |
| 20:07.33 | kiozen | if they would be less narrow minded |
| 20:07.53 | marajin | I don't think meaning 2 is even correct, I think whoever submitted that is mildly deranged |
| 20:08.10 | Zoolooc | ginge: :-) alright |
| 20:08.15 | marajin | I suspect they've transposed a first letter or something |
| 20:08.26 | ginge | marajin: lol I did think that |
| 20:08.55 | marajin | The closest I could even come up with was minge and it's not that meaning tho' |
| 20:16.06 | Raketemensch | bummer, it started right up for me on the first shot, then locked up oncce the gui came up |
| 20:16.12 | Raketemensch | after reset, it won't launch again |
| 20:16.22 | Zoolooc | quite interesting when non-native speakers like me stumble upon more subtle wording... |
| 20:16.35 | marajin | Zoolooc: quite dangerous too :P |
| 20:16.55 | Zoolooc | marajin: hell, yeah |
| 20:18.59 | marajin | english is a silly language |
| 20:19.36 | BabelO | kiozen: compiled, just need test now |
| 20:21.14 | ginge | don't go to England, it is a silly place |
| 20:22.12 | marajin | tis |
| 20:24.30 | Zoolooc | ginge: ever been in germany, or even better, romania? |
| 20:25.01 | ginge | Zoolooc: I briefly went to Germany, not romania though |
| 20:25.05 | Zoolooc | ginge: former is where I live now, latter where I'm coming from |
| 20:25.15 | Zoolooc | both silly places ;) |
| 20:25.22 | ginge | Zoolooc: beat me to it :) |
| 20:25.25 | goxboxlive | BabelO: whats the status with imlife now? Have you been working further with it? |
| 20:26.37 | marajin | Zoolooc: Where do you consider not to be a silly place? |
| 20:26.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes a little more, but not able to make a package |
| 20:26.43 | goxboxlive | BabelO: You page says: Last Updated ( Monday, 14 January 2008 14:21 ) |
| 20:26.45 | BabelO | goxboxlive: still miss irc support |
| 20:26.49 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:27.03 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes i did not update that, just update GIT |
| 20:27.12 | goxboxlive | ok |
| 20:27.47 | Zoolooc | where's dcordes, connection reset by beer? |
| 20:27.58 | ginge | I hope not, I am all ranted out |
| 20:28.26 | Zoolooc | why's that? |
| 20:28.34 | ginge | dcordes + beer = rant |
| 20:30.06 | Zoolooc | haven't "seen" him in that state, actually |
| 20:30.30 | ginge | pretty amusing |
| 20:32.04 | Zoolooc | guess so... on the other hand, I have seen that kind of thing on #linkstationwiki, one of the ops was getting really amusing from time to time |
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| 21:00.57 | dcordes_ | ginge: hm? :) |
| 21:01.43 | ginge | whistles nonchalantly |
| 21:02.11 | dcordes_ | should I sell drunk talk for profit? |
| 21:02.39 | ginge | for sure. I was thinking of creating you a blog |
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| 21:03.47 | marajin | mutters about having to defux some laptop that a typical british teenage schoolgirl has been let loose on. |
| 21:04.02 | marajin | boggles at 471 spyware infections. |
| 21:04.10 | ginge | marajin: spyware and a million toolbars? |
| 21:04.23 | ginge | with 400 million mp3s from limewire |
| 21:04.26 | marajin | ginge: dcordes_: :D you could blog it yeah |
| 21:04.42 | marajin | ginge: I don't think she understood limewire, installed it but doesn't seem to have used it |
| 21:04.44 | ginge | all shit |
| 21:04.55 | ginge | well that is something at least |
| 21:05.04 | marajin | ginge: She has folders labeled stuff like 'print owt these piks' |
| 21:05.09 | marajin | ginge: 'muzic' |
| 21:05.48 | ginge | I got a letter from a relative the other day and it said "I fort you got a new job? lol :P" |
| 21:06.02 | ginge | not only fort but lol in a hand written letter? |
| 21:06.04 | ginge | wtf? |
| 21:06.10 | marajin | ... hand written? |
| 21:06.13 | marajin | dear LORD |
| 21:06.21 | marajin | I won't speak like that in SMSes, let alone handwritten |
| 21:06.28 | ginge | divine intervention is.... unlikely |
| 21:06.33 | marajin | I nearly punched someone once for _saying_ 'lol' |
| 21:06.49 | ginge | I write all sms messages with the correct case and punctuation... just to annoy |
| 21:06.56 | marajin | actually ginge, so do I |
| 21:06.57 | ginge | nothing like getting a 4 page text message :) |
| 21:07.03 | marajin | haha |
| 21:07.07 | ginge | they said lol out loud? |
| 21:07.13 | marajin | yeah |
| 21:07.15 | ginge | slaps head |
| 21:07.33 | ginge | why didn't they just, you know, laugh out loud |
| 21:07.35 | marajin | instead of laughing they actually just said 'lol' |
| 21:07.47 | ginge | that aint right |
| 21:07.58 | marajin | and I went '.....HRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH! ZERSTOEREN!' and terrified them |
| 21:08.06 | ginge | rofl |
| 21:08.19 | ginge | brb |
| 21:08.45 | marajin | Nothing like screaming rammstein lyrics at tards actually |
| 21:08.59 | marajin | Not only don't they have a clue what you're saying but they're also terrifed |
| 21:09.04 | marajin | *terrified |
| 21:09.22 | marajin | dcordes_: Ever heard the english joke that german is the only language in the world where saying 'I love you' sounds like a declaration of war? |
| 21:11.51 | dcordes_ | I'm not getting it |
| 21:12.29 | dcordes_ | again without meta? |
| 21:12.35 | dcordes_ | you know I'm slow on the uptake |
| 21:14.14 | marajin | er |
| 21:14.41 | marajin | in english.. we have a joke... that the german language is the only language in the world where saying 'I love you' sounds like a declaration of war |
| 21:14.50 | marajin | because german is quite a sharp sounding language? |
| 21:14.58 | marajin | so it sounds aggressive? |
| 21:15.36 | dcordes_ | maybe |
| 21:16.05 | marajin | I didn't say it was entirely logical |
| 21:16.11 | ginge | back and hmmm |
| 21:16.13 | marajin | since english is germanic and sounds fairly sharp too |
| 21:16.43 | ginge | my favourite sharp statement is "shut it dick" |
| 21:17.49 | marajin | my favourite sharp statement is a quick stabbing with a knife |
| 21:17.53 | marajin | radiates innocence. |
| 21:18.11 | ginge | looks at the local stabbing statistics |
| 21:18.43 | marajin | I didn't do it officer! I'm just a geek! |
| 21:18.44 | ginge | surprisingly high actually 2294 in gm |
| 21:18.59 | marajin | would have used a screwdriver |
| 21:19.05 | ginge | the bat'leth is decoritive, honest |
| 21:19.27 | marajin | c'mon man, I'm a geek but I'm not a trekkie |
| 21:19.37 | ginge | heh |
| 21:19.56 | ginge | who wouldn't want a batleth |
| 21:20.17 | marajin | me! there are much better tools |
| 21:20.33 | ginge | how about a swiss army batleth? |
| 21:20.45 | marajin | that'd just be silly :p |
| 21:20.45 | ginge | you could fit loads of shit in that |
| 21:21.37 | marajin | yes because, you can disembowl a targ but can you uncork a wine bottle?! |
| 21:22.33 | ginge | or put some screws in. Dont forget tweezers |
| 21:25.31 | marajin | ginge: And woe betide the klingon warrior that can't file his nails! |
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| 21:29.23 | dcordes_ | good night |
| 21:29.29 | SanMehat | re: |
| 21:30.23 | marajin | 'lo SanMehat |
| 21:31.03 | SanMehat | 'lo |
| 21:31.17 | ginge | helllo |
| 21:33.56 | ginge | SanMehat: did you see the logs from the sd controller I posted? Not much but a start. |
| 21:34.07 | SanMehat | ginge: no I didnt |
| 21:34.14 | SanMehat | ginge: where are they at? |
| 21:34.20 | ginge | headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated.txt |
| 21:34.45 | SanMehat | sec. |
| 21:35.13 | ginge | the irq 26 part is the vic status register in hex |
| 21:35.31 | SanMehat | oh. |
| 21:35.58 | SanMehat | do you have the sdcc status registers available? |
| 21:36.14 | SanMehat | headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated.txt |
| 21:36.15 | SanMehat | er |
| 21:36.19 | SanMehat | msm_dmov_enqueue_cmd(8), start command, status 1 |
| 21:36.19 | SanMehat | irq 26 0 14082800 |
| 21:36.20 | SanMehat | irq 26 0 10082800 |
| 21:36.23 | ginge | I can do some more printfs but getting the logs off the damn thing are near impossible |
| 21:36.32 | SanMehat | i want to see the sdcc status registers for those interrupts |
| 21:36.42 | ginge | ok. give me a mo |
| 21:38.36 | SanMehat | ginge: In that case it looks like datamover hit a data bus error during the transfer |
| 21:38.42 | ginge | certainly does. |
| 21:38.46 | SanMehat | ginge: i need to see the SDCC status regs to know more. |
| 21:39.00 | SanMehat | dumping out the other flush registers would be good too |
| 21:39.02 | ginge | it fails immedaitely after trying to queue up the next command |
| 21:39.09 | SanMehat | flush0 -> flush5 |
| 21:39.30 | SanMehat | then i can tell you how many bytes got transferred |
| 21:39.45 | ginge | yeah I skipped those, let me put them back in. |
| 21:40.19 | SanMehat | ginge: cool. Also FYI, I'm getting prepared to re-write this thing from scratch, if you'd like to be involved on some level, let me know. |
| 21:40.33 | SanMehat | I think I know how to make PIO IRQs work properly |
| 21:41.11 | ginge | nice. It is slightly fiddly at the moment |
| 21:41.29 | SanMehat | ginge: it is also *possible* that channel 8 does not have access to the entire range of application processor memory. |
| 21:41.42 | SanMehat | but we'll know more from the other flush registers and the SDCC status |
| 21:42.03 | ginge | I was just looking at that. I was going to see if I could switch channels |
| 21:42.18 | SanMehat | AMSS defines the channel you have to use. |
| 21:42.25 | ginge | damn |
| 21:42.42 | SanMehat | its cool, worst case is you use software bounce buffers |
| 21:42.59 | ginge | makes sense. it always fails the same amount into any file. |
| 21:43.06 | SanMehat | hmm. |
| 21:43.07 | SanMehat | sec. |
| 21:44.20 | ginge | uploading new kernel... |
| 21:44.23 | marajin | ginge: If oom-killer starts again I shall be mildly upset now.. I'm pretty reliably displaying < 200MB actual useage (after discounting cache) so if something manages to eat a coupla gigs on its own... well the mind simply boggles |
| 21:44.51 | ginge | write your own basic kill script. make it do a restart instead of kill |
| 21:45.20 | marajin | Well all I want to know is what's leaking ram actually |
| 21:45.33 | marajin | I may just create a memory log file |
| 21:46.16 | ginge | argh it failed to boot.... reset. |
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| 21:46.28 | ginge | we really need to fix this haret thing |
| 21:46.35 | SanMehat | ginge: brb |
| 21:47.24 | SanMehat | ginge: do you have CONFIG_MMC_BLOCK_BOUNCE set? |
| 21:47.51 | ginge | yes |
| 21:49.17 | SanMehat | hmmm i don't.... after you send the debug info, try removing that. |
| 21:49.25 | SanMehat | (plz email dumps to san@android.com) |
| 21:49.29 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:49.40 | ginge | a while ago though |
| 21:49.59 | ginge | at least before I got the datamover even moving data |
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| 21:50.51 | ginge | dumps are unlikely :) |
| 21:50.58 | SanMehat | :) |
| 21:52.15 | SanMehat | also in msmsdcc_config_dma(), can you print out the physical addresses that we're putting into the datamover box list? |
| 21:52.26 | SanMehat | i'm interested in what the failing chunk has for addresses |
| 21:52.29 | SanMehat | ok now really brb |
| 21:52.37 | ginge | heh. np |
| 21:53.52 | tmzt_ | why can't you get logs off? |
| 21:54.48 | ginge | sd controller hangs before the data is flushed out over the data connection |
| 21:55.57 | tmzt_ | makes sense |
| 21:57.08 | BabelO | ginge: usb ether does not works ? |
| 21:57.24 | ginge | no uart no usb no wifi :( |
| 21:57.55 | BabelO | ginge: i have same kind of bug on artemis while going to suspend, i open another terminal and do a cat /proc/kmsg |
| 21:58.01 | tmzt_ | wonder how accessible the serial would be on these? not in the ext usb? |
| 21:58.26 | ginge | BabelO_: keyboard locks |
| 22:05.45 | SanMehat | ginge: back |
| 22:06.11 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:06.27 | SanMehat | ginge: sorry man... i can imagine how annoying it is.. |
| 22:06.42 | ginge | all part of the fun |
| 22:06.49 | SanMehat | yeah i feel your pain |
| 22:07.01 | ginge | I have rebooted this phone 1423 times this month :) |
| 22:07.16 | ginge | my carrier must be very confused |
| 22:07.40 | SanMehat | hahaha |
| 22:07.45 | SanMehat | where are you based? |
| 22:07.53 | ginge | UK |
| 22:08.04 | SanMehat | oh right I asked you already :) |
| 22:08.10 | ginge | yeah :) |
| 22:10.09 | BabelO | ginge: whats is your flash ? |
| 22:10.22 | BabelO | ls |
| 22:14.27 | BabelO | SanMehat: What is the current android kernel level ? |
| 22:14.38 | SanMehat | BabelO: 2.6.25 |
| 22:15.15 | BabelO | ok i m one more on artemis.. i try patch by hand then |
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| 22:37.48 | BabelO | good night |
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| 23:20.22 | ginge | http://headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/sderror-extrapolated2.txt |
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