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03:29.08shayaanyone here have a sprint mogul?
03:59.25tmzt_titan, what do you want to know?
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06:57.28marajinmorning peeps
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07:44.57marajin'lo zoolooc
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07:45.08zooloochi marajin
07:45.35marajinhow goes?
07:46.30zooloocworking, have to do some stupid paperwork instead of coding, for a meeting in an hour...
07:47.29zooloocotherwise, keeping showing up here and chek if some sd issues have been magically solved... have they ;) ?
07:47.38marajinheh
07:47.42marajinnot that I know of
07:47.43marajinsorry
07:48.06marajinis playing with getting linux onto a usbkey and booting it on his new umpc so that vista will stop being horribly laggy when he tries to do more than run word
07:48.57zooloochehe, good luck, and when it all plays nice, I'm sure you'll ditch vista away completely...
07:49.03marajinnah
07:49.05marajinneed it for work
07:49.08marajinbut still
07:49.25marajinali1234 was boggled that the system ran vista with aero enabled at all :P
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09:17.58kedarhi all :) any news with boot on Diamond or TouchPro ?
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09:36.46marajin'lo ginge
09:36.58gingegood morning!
09:37.06marajinsomething like that
09:37.19marajinis swearing profusely to himself at the moment about bloody people at work.
09:37.30gingeand how is Mr Marajin this morning?
09:37.39gingeits like that eh :)
09:37.48marajinthey're nagging me about the phone not working
09:37.52marajinNot. My. Problem
09:37.58marajinNot. My. Job.
09:38.03marajinNot even something I set up
09:38.24marajinit was working but then you did something with wires!"
09:38.35marajinNetwork wires yellow, phone wires red. no movey red wires.
09:39.04marajinyou bastards however rearranged a bunch of network devices without bothering to mention to me then phone me go up and go 'printers don't work..'
09:40.24gingethey never do
09:41.03marajinand then when I asked where the spare cables box was ..
09:41.08marajincan you guess?
09:41.21gingeno idea
09:41.22ginge;)
09:41.28marajinat her mother and father-in-laws house
09:41.49gingeum.... yeah. makes sense
09:42.19marajinputs on some music and bangs his head along, 'Exterminate! Annihilate! Destroy!'
09:43.10gingeO.o
09:43.17marajinmeh
09:43.24marajinI get annoyed when tards break things then blame me :p
09:43.45gingeI know what you mean. You had the right attitude there.... meh
09:44.10gingeit is the path of sanity
09:45.08marajinqueues up 'Zustoeren'
09:45.46marajinMy temper is curbed however by the glory of seeing linux boot correctly on my new umpc
09:45.49marajinyaaay
09:46.16marajinsound, touchscreen, graphics and usb definitely working thusfar
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09:59.37marajinsweet, wired networking works
09:59.59marajinginge: off hand d'ya know what ubuntu uses to calibrate ts's generally?
10:01.49gingenot offhand, but I am guessing it will be evtouch based
10:03.55marajinyeah
10:04.13marajinI can't find any mention of the ts in any logs or anything yet it does definitely work in X
10:04.16marajinwiggy
10:04.21marajinjust badly miscalibrated
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10:06.09marajinginge: xorg-input-evtouch isn't even installed..
10:06.37gingeum? /dev/input?
10:07.36marajinI don't see much in there that's specific to the TS, more to do with the trackpad.
10:07.48marajinThe device is silly, it has a nipple, track pad and ts
10:07.56gingeawesome. I love the nipple
10:08.01gingeBest input device ever
10:08.08gingeI wish more devices had them
10:08.10marajinall three register in X but only the synaptics tp is technically configured..
10:08.24marajinalso it blaaaazes under linux compared to vista
10:10.08marajinginge: Oh and nicely, it has an SD reader that is _SDHC Compat_
10:10.28marajinand CF slot just for.. ya know, why not?
10:10.47gingewhat the hell is this magical device
10:12.52marajinhaha
10:12.58marajinVye S37
10:13.21marajintad more expensive than a eee or something but kinda nicer IMHO
10:13.41marajinthe extended battery as standard for example appealed to me.
10:13.58marajinas did the 120 gig drive and the fact it can technically run vista even with aero enabled is a bit freaky
10:15.14gingewhat a sweet little thing
10:15.24marajinI like it
10:15.44gingehow much?!?
10:15.47marajin450
10:16.05gingeamazon says £829 are there a few?
10:16.27marajinno, there's just a nutter in bromley cross selling them for 449.95
10:16.52marajinwell there's the 37 and 37B
10:17.02marajinthe B is 800mhz the 37 is 600
10:17.06marajinotherwise, not much between them
10:17.37marajinthe B may ship with 2GB of ram as standard I think
10:22.33marajinginge: He has 5 left according to his ebay listing
10:22.58gingeI have too many computers as it is :)
10:23.03marajinhaha
10:23.14marajinsell the eee? ;)
10:23.16gingeyou know its bad when family members keep asking if you have a spare one, and you give them one from the pile :)
10:23.26marajinyeah I get that
10:23.29gingethe eee broke. damn flimsy shite
10:23.33marajinbut I wanted a portable since my laptop borked
10:37.13elliswaylooks like a nice umpc marajin
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10:49.43marajinyeah
10:49.43marajinhmm
10:50.07marajinTS looks much more calibrated now but the pointer movement is jumping to very major subdivisions of the screen
10:50.49marajinlike.. it detects the corners of the screen just fine but the pointer is jumping between points in a grid of about 5x5 from the looks of it
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12:48.40LanceHaighey everyone
12:49.10LanceHaigjust recieved my replacement Kaiser_II and need to jknow which is the best rom that is uk capable to run?
13:17.13marajinLanceHaig: what on earth is a Kaiser 2?
13:17.27marajinLanceHaig: you mean TyTn II/Kaiser?
13:17.39LanceHaigMagorium, I do :-)
13:17.59LanceHaigI have been busy trying to get it ready for romming
13:18.04LanceHaigso I was misguided
13:18.07LanceHaigsorry
13:18.17marajinLanceHaig: Well, L26's diamond roms have been good to me on my O2 one =)
13:19.35marajinbut it's a bit of trial and error to see what you like and what seems relatively bug free.
13:20.02oneguynicki still have not been able to flash mine
13:20.10oneguynicki have attempted softspl, hardspl
13:20.11oneguynicknothing
13:20.12marajindcordes still swears by Dutty's Diamond V1 but I found it nice but too buggy for regular use
13:20.15oneguynickjust hangs and locks out
13:20.23marajinoneguynick: what happens when you run kaiser sspl?
13:20.27marajinwhite screen?
13:20.36oneguynickno, colored bars and then USB at the bottom
13:20.41marajinright
13:20.48marajinso you get into the SPL fine
13:20.52oneguynickthe program runs for about 2 minutes...then spits back that it cannot communicate
13:20.55oneguynickyes
13:21.07marajinah when you're flashing it fails after a short period... dodgy usb connection?
13:21.10LanceHaigoneguynick, I get the same issue
13:21.15LanceHaigand their is a fix
13:21.24oneguynickmarajin: i am using vmware fusion so it maybe on my end
13:21.27LanceHaigthe white screen fix
13:21.32oneguynickbut i heard vmware wasnt an issue for some
13:21.41oneguynicki just only have mac/bsd/linux box in the house, no windows
13:21.50marajinIunno, I never flashed from vmware fusion
13:21.56marajinI have done from vista and XP usually
13:22.02marajinyou could card flash the kaiser I think?
13:22.20LanceHaigmarajin, you can
13:22.23oneguynickmarajin: card flash off SD?
13:22.41LanceHaigdo you guys think sleuth will be ok?
13:22.45marajinoneguynick: yep. or just keep hoping and praying that we get linux to behave with SD and then wootwoot linux kaiser is pretty ready to go
13:23.00LanceHaigit was the last one I used but I have not run any of the linux roms with that one yet
13:23.03oneguynickyeah that is the only reason i bought the device was the hard work you guys have been doing
13:23.12oneguynicki booted android last week
13:23.20marajinheh :)
13:23.24oneguynickfricken awesome, just need a terminal and VI and i will be in heaven
13:23.37marajinit's always nice watching a new device finally boot into a working linux isn't it?
13:25.12oneguynicki buy devices just to watch it
13:25.18marajinhaha
13:25.25marajinah the peak of geekdom ;)
13:25.36oneguynickthe DS, dreamcast, gamecube, PSP, playstation, tomtom
13:25.43oneguynicki am a linux boot whore
13:25.48marajinheh
13:25.50oneguynickcross compiling makes me giggle
13:25.53marajinno wii? ;)
13:26.04marajinthey have a native booting wii linux kernel now I tihnk
13:26.09oneguynicki would love to try a wii but cant find one and stay home long enough to hack
13:26.09marajin*think
13:26.17Miekgp2x!
13:26.36marajinMiek: I have a gp2x yeah. it was cute but some hardware design flaws were always a bit irritating
13:26.56oneguynickMiek: had one but the game pad feel was horrible
13:26.58oneguynickcut your thumb
13:27.17marajinbut my new UMPC is booting linux happily.. I just have to fix the touchscreen and get wifi to live and.. woo
13:27.36oneguynickmarajin: i really want one of those gigabyte m528 MID
13:27.41oneguynickwhat one did you buy?
13:27.44marajinI should check the SD card reader works too.. it's SDHC compat which made me happy
13:27.49marajinVye s37
13:27.56marajinA110 based
13:28.02marajingig of ram, 120 drive, bluetooth, wifi..
13:28.11marajinand amusingly.. touchpad, nipple mouse AND touchscreen
13:28.19marajinand joystick/d-pad..
13:28.27marajinand keyboard
13:28.36marajinnice to have plenty of input :P
13:29.30marajinthey sound silly expensive (usually listed over 600 to 800 a pop) but I got it for 450
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13:51.06marajininteresting
13:51.11marajinI think wifi is working :)
13:51.21oneguynickndiswrapper?
13:51.25oneguynickwhat card does it have?
13:51.27marajinnative
13:51.31marajinrt73usb
13:51.59oneguynickeven better
13:59.41marajinyep
13:59.56marajinworking with encryption enabled now, all's good it seems
14:00.18marajintime to write some udev rules to stop /dev/input/eventx switching on me
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14:21.04marajinginge: wb
14:28.09marajinginge: <brian_blessed> WIFI'S ALIIIIIIVE! </brian_blessed> <disclaimed_for_the_easily_overexcited> talking about my UMPC, not the kaiser </disclaimer_for_the_easily_overexcited>
14:28.34gingelol
14:28.54gingejust got the project signed off. Flying chairs will stop now :)
14:29.17marajinaww.. now how will we fly to mars to found our geek commune?
14:30.06gingeboggles
14:33.12marajinyou saying you don't wanna?
14:34.26marajinschweet... SDHC reader works flawlessly under linux too, no more buggering about with dodgy + slow cardexport/wm5torage/etc.
14:41.50gingenaa screw that, I want my flying car
14:42.12marajinhmm
14:42.52marajinginge: any clue why my TS would work and be seemingly to be calibrated but the pointer snaps to points in about a 5x5 grid across the screen?
14:43.28gingenot off the top of my head. Did you figure out what sort of ts driver it uses?
14:43.36marajinevtouch seems happy
14:43.46marajinit is using evdev and whatnot in the kernel
14:44.04gingebut not in x?
14:44.08marajinI've set up all the config in xorg.conf even so it's pretty much calibrated
14:44.15marajinand x is set to evtouch yeah
14:45.49gingeyeah sounds like you need to calibrate it
14:45.50gingehttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-644258.html
14:45.56gingehas some interesting info
14:45.59marajinit's calibrated mate
14:46.10gingecalibrated to a 5x5 grid :)
14:46.24marajinyeah but it's not :p
14:46.48marajinit's sensing where it's touched correctly AFAIK but scaling it to a 5x5 grid
14:48.22gingeodd-o
14:50.46marajinso if I tap the top-left, the cursor stays top left till I pass half an inch along the top then it'll snap to 1 inch along the top line and so on
14:51.00marajinit snaps to the nearest inch spaced grid point
14:51.27marajinwhich is bizzare because if I don't config it and x obviously auto detects it.. then it is smooth moving but totally uncalibrated
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15:56.40MarexAlex[sp3dev]: hi, late response, Im slightly busy with uni now ... well, udc should work and pcmcia probably too
15:56.51Marexopie - ask |miska| at #hackndev
15:58.51Alex[sp3dev]on my asus, udc prints debug messages and works with 2.6.26, but it reacts in no way in newer kernels.. that's sad.. hopefully it will be fixed once.. at least now i have disassembled wince dlls and trying to init gsm and bluetooth
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16:32.18marajinginge: yey, fixed my touchscreen
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16:50.29dcordesAlex[sp3dev]: hey what asus do you have? smartphone?
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16:51.03Alex[sp3dev]asus p525.. more like pda.. given the fact it has touchscreen and pocket pc os
16:51.33dcordesthat's an old one, isn't it?
16:52.29Alex[sp3dev]maybe, but still a good thing. at least, all that hacking stuff is very interesting and gives experience.. and really there is no device on the market that'd be a nice replacement
16:52.29dcordes0906
16:53.04dcordeswhy not, what does the p525 have what others don't?
16:53.15dcordesdid you look at the newer asus smartphones?
16:54.40Alex[sp3dev]firstly i want to complete our linux porting to it. and newer asuses.. the only difference is vga screen (by default in qvga,you need to patch lcd driver) and gps (that's of course nice). actually i want sth with wvga screen and pxa cpu.. or msm.. waiting for se xperia
16:56.17dcordes3 line keyboard
16:56.42Alex[sp3dev]sorry?
16:56.50dcordesxperia has a 3line keyboard.
16:57.08dcordesnot good for bash :)
16:57.28dcordesoh, sorry. 4
16:57.30Alex[sp3dev]much better than 9-way phone keypad)
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16:58.06dcordesI take it back, actually the xperia keyboard looks quite nice
16:58.37dcordesthey tried to make it resemble normal desktop or notebook keyboard
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16:59.22dcordesit will soon be released no?
16:59.23Alex[sp3dev]actually i have loox 520 as well,but it's dead. shit.. i have desoldered cpu, and jtag is not routed to any pcb points((.. and my friend at a service centre says they've sold out all replacement flashes
16:59.45dcordesoh that's a pity
16:59.58Alex[sp3dev]yeah, i dunno what to do with it
17:00.02dcordesBabelO and so were working on the loox
17:00.11dcordesI think. sell it on ebay?
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17:02.18Alex[sp3dev]ebay is not a thing in russia(. i think it would be cool to buy a new mobo from a friend or go to moscow and buy another used pda.. but i wanna fix my one.. i wish i had a g4 uni... then i'd swap flashes and flash it via jtag in uni.. certainly i won't do such crazy thing with my asus))
17:05.47dcordesAlex[sp3dev]: can you buy such things like pdas well on moscow's streets?
17:07.26Alex[sp3dev]yes, why not? you can buy them in shops or from used stuff resellers (tell the truth, you shouldn't buy USED phones unless you can change IMEI (many phones are stolen, and you may be caught by police))
17:08.04dcordeshe one guy from czech republic had the same with a uni
17:08.20Alex[sp3dev]what the same?
17:08.48dcordeshe bought a 'used' uni in some used stuff shop and the police knocked on his door a few days later
17:09.23Alex[sp3dev]that really sucks.. not the police but the pickpockets
17:09.45dcordesyea
17:09.46Alex[sp3dev]but that is about phones
17:09.53Alex[sp3dev]with pdas you don't worry
17:10.12dcordesyea not possible to get caught
17:10.22dcordesbut still some people don't like to use stolen stuff
17:10.32dcordesI have to go, bye
17:11.01Alex[sp3dev]bye, good luck)
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17:32.22marajin'lo nail
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17:48.50NAiLmorning
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18:06.29marajinNAiL: how's it going?
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18:21.18oneguynickanyone know if .9 SDK has been on the kaiser yet?
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19:01.59marajinoneguynick: We don't care enough to make an initrd and the sd bug stops it being usable but technically the vogue SD version would boot on the kaiser otherwise
19:03.00oneguynicki tried the latest
19:03.03oneguynickit just kernel dumps
19:03.12marajinthat's the SD driver bug yeah
19:04.33oneguynickso install in ROM
19:05.11marajinwe don't have nand access
19:05.50oneguynickhmmmm so then where should I put it?
19:06.08marajinon the sd, I'm saying IF the sd bug was fixed, the vogue version would work
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19:07.10oneguynickahhh thanks marajin
19:07.32oneguynickthe old version worked
19:07.38oneguynickjust not his new one based on .9
19:07.53marajinthe m5 release is an initrd, it's loaded entirely into RAM
19:23.44ALoGeNohey guys wasup :)
19:23.56marajin'lo ALoGeNo
19:24.46ALoGeNoim testing with debian in my uni, and im without X, i must install that by inet? or i must build some image with all or something?
19:26.17ALoGeNonobody Knows?
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19:27.40ALoGeNoin any case i'll look in the debian forum hehe..
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20:12.58tmzt_ALoGeNo: are you using debian or debian armel?
20:16.47ALoGeNodebian armel
20:17.15ALoGeNowell right now i dunno i'll must to see that..
20:17.51ALoGeNowhy tmzt_ ?
20:18.07ALoGeNoisnt the same?
20:18.25tmzt_I am working on building a xfbdev package for armel, and since you have pxa (armv5) you can't use the openembedded or angstrom one
20:19.05ALoGeNommm...
20:19.20ALoGeNoi have the htc universal..
20:19.30ALoGeNoisnt armel7? o 9?
20:21.13ALoGeNoim just beginning :)
20:25.04marajinhmm, did they ever make touchflo type interfaces for windows xp/vista tablet stuff?
20:26.30ALoGeNoI have read of people who use icewm in their uni, tmzt_
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20:31.25dcordestmzt_: what's the problem with armv5 in OE?
20:35.29tmzt_nothing that I know of, but it would have to be setup with the right machine to build it
20:35.47tmzt_I meant the same package as for msm's, which are armv6
20:37.05dcordesI can make you one. did you look in the repo?
20:37.34dcordeswhich libc do you need?
20:37.39dcordesglibc right?
20:37.46dcordeshttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/repo/?action=details&pnm=xserver-kdrive-fbdev
20:37.53dcordeshttp://www.angstrom-distribution.org/feeds/2008/ipk/glibc/armv5te/base/xserver-kdrive-fbdev_1.4.0.90-r1_armv5te.ipk
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20:45.35tetsuo\0what is that debian armel - EABI stuff?
20:48.57tetsuo\0is that useful on a universal?
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21:44.44dcordes_tmzt__: did you get what you were looking for?
21:44.53dcordes_I can also make you a custom image
21:44.58dcordes_s/image/ipk/
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21:50.37dcordesisp terror
21:52.26tcccpo.O
21:53.53marajindcordes: ah c'mon, it's just a freedom fighter ;)
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22:03.59herriojrhey, does anyone have the proper vogue keymappings for 0.9 as well as keymapping fixes for the software keyboard
22:04.00herriojr?
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22:34.15dcordesherriojr: maybe ask on the xda forum. there's a channel where the vogue linux people frequent, including dzo.
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22:37.49dcordesherriojr: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382265
22:37.57dcordesherriojr: btw, did you look into the kaiser sd driver?
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22:49.52dcordesherriojr: still around?
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23:21.51herriojryeah, I'm still here
23:22.08herriojrno, I had to get this stuff first
23:22.19herriojrI now finally have time to look into the sd driver :)
23:28.21herriojrdid your repository get setup with the current code?
23:30.14dcordeshides
23:30.14dcordesno
23:30.59dcordesI will give it another go tomorrow
23:31.15dcordesmarajin: do you know which one is ginge's latest kaiser *.25 diff?
23:37.25tmzt__great, I have my debian package now though
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23:40.45marajindcordes: no
23:42.12dcordesok, good night
23:42.28tmzt__dcordes: did you get fso working (not phone)?
23:43.17dcordestmzt__: fso boots well off sd, but I can't access the /dev/smd? in it
23:44.37tmzt__have you tried mknod with the major from /proc/devices?
23:45.07dcordesherriojr: I found a kind of recent patch by ginge. this might his latest code. http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/git-diff-110808-b.diff it is against branch android-msm-2.6.25 on git.android.com
23:45.27dcordesherriojr: it should work with the current revision present there, since there have been no recent changes in android-msm-2.6.25
23:45.28tmzt__aug 11?
23:45.45dcordesyea
23:46.03dcordesmaybe he has new sd code locally, but I think he didn't upload a new diff
23:46.48dcordestmzt__: I will try creating the smd nodes manually tomorrow
23:47.10dcordestmzt__: did you get the links to angstrom repo?
23:47.17tmzt__yes
23:47.49dcordesdid it help?
23:48.23tmzt__just got it
23:48.33tmzt__I have a debian package now, and it works
23:48.43dcordesgreat, already tried fso?
23:49.29tmzt__yes, it works if frameworkd is running
23:49.46tmzt__I changed the lines at the top to make it fit
23:50.04dcordesso you can dial with the external modem? which lines?
23:50.50tmzt__no, I don't have a connection to the modem, I don't have a serial cable, usb doesn't work, and I can't get cf bluetooth (serial_cs) working either
23:51.10tmzt__fake modem in frameworkd works
23:51.35tmzt__the WIDTH and HEIGHT at the top of /usr/bin/zhone
23:51.43dcordesok that's great, I hope I can make the communication work on kaiser tomorrow
23:51.46dcordesg2g now, bye
23:51.49tmzt__ok

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