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| 01:20.53 | marajin | that was worrisome |
| 01:22.21 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:22.59 | ginge | dcordes_: I guess we should either probe those and create them with a script, or fix auto dev creation |
| 01:25.48 | dcordes_ | fix auto dev creation would be more elegant no |
| 01:26.57 | dcordes_ | that is not what caused the problem with ppp in angstrom, because I had only smd0 |
| 01:27.06 | dcordes_ | and no other smd device |
| 01:27.34 | ginge | yeah, it depends on the order of initialisation of the char devs. Auto would be best |
| 01:28.29 | dcordes_ | is that in kaiser-smd.c? |
| 01:30.33 | ginge | no, it would be angstrom init I would imagine |
| 01:30.35 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
| 01:30.52 | marajin | dcordes_: ginge: you didn't try to run anything on perses er.. ~ 45 minutes ago did you? |
| 01:30.52 | ginge | the alternative is to define a major for in in the smd code |
| 01:31.15 | ginge | marajin: no, but I did reboot about then, probably logged in over ftp and did ls |
| 01:31.27 | marajin | hmm |
| 01:32.01 | ginge | err no, wait it is much later than I thought... |
| 01:32.10 | ginge | 02:31:46 up |
| 01:32.12 | marajin | well the wierdness is that perses would NOT talk to the network, and I didn't wish to go into the attic disturbing people at 2am to see what was on the screen |
| 01:32.38 | ginge | hmm |
| 01:32.43 | marajin | I did a rather nasty powercycle from here which brought it back up but I get worried when things pretty seriously lock up |
| 01:33.03 | marajin | oddly it was responding to pings |
| 01:33.14 | marajin | but ssh/http were dead |
| 01:34.06 | marajin | I see naff all suspicous in logs |
| 01:35.57 | dcordes_ | ginge: I think we should do it in the kernel so in all distros we get the correct device assignments from udev |
| 01:36.10 | dcordes_ | marajin: I didn't access any of your servers |
| 01:36.56 | marajin | dcordes_: I only have one mate |
| 01:37.20 | tmzt_mp900c | are the smd's in /sys/class/tty ? |
| 01:38.57 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c: booting.. |
| 01:39.14 | dcordes_ | but they are registred as normal serial devices in the system iirc |
| 01:41.48 | tmzt_mp900c | did you get the angstrom problem solved? |
| 01:42.15 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c: in /sys/class/tty/ all smd devices provided by the driver are registred. |
| 01:42.26 | ginge | dcordes_: we could do it in the kernel... one line change here is an approximation of mine |
| 01:42.26 | ginge | smd_tty.c |
| 01:42.26 | ginge | -smd_tty_driver->major = 0; |
| 01:42.26 | ginge | +smd_tty_driver->major = 199; //or whatever |
| 01:42.47 | dcordes_ | which are (with the htc-msm git) 0 1 2 3 7 |
| 01:43.47 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c: the problem with the system freezing when I try to access the smd caracter devices? |
| 01:43.50 | dcordes_ | no |
| 01:44.09 | ginge | dcordes_: get those ttySx autocreated at boot, and ln smdx to them |
| 01:44.10 | dcordes_ | very odd, only appears in fso image |
| 01:44.38 | dcordes_ | which ttySx? |
| 01:45.05 | ginge | I assume that angstrom proves sys and gets the tty devices, autocreating them. |
| 01:45.24 | ginge | s/provs/provides udev/ |
| 01:45.31 | dcordes_ | we've always had smdx not ttySx devices |
| 01:45.31 | ginge | bah |
| 01:45.48 | tmzt_mp900c | if there in sys shouldn't udev already create them? |
| 01:45.51 | ginge | right, but most scripts will autocreate them as tty names |
| 01:46.05 | dcordes_ | what scripts? |
| 01:46.13 | ginge | init scripts |
| 01:46.17 | ginge | udev |
| 01:46.27 | dcordes_ | angstrom udev doesn't |
| 01:46.38 | tmzt_mp900c | then something is missing? |
| 01:46.40 | ginge | what does it call them? |
| 01:46.59 | ginge | yeah, its not configured right |
| 01:47.11 | dcordes_ | when you don't run udev in angstrom, you won't get /dev/smd? |
| 01:47.43 | ginge | didnt you hard create them? |
| 01:47.54 | dcordes_ | no that's only in the odd image |
| 01:48.08 | dcordes_ | because init isn't called there correctly |
| 01:48.15 | dcordes_ | it only runs /bin/sh |
| 01:48.35 | ginge | right, but it has an init sequence handler, right? |
| 01:48.44 | dcordes_ | with the old (non rtc) kernel, the devices are created perfectly in angstrom. |
| 01:49.08 | ginge | did you try rtc? |
| 01:49.11 | ginge | it is in mainline |
| 01:49.28 | dcordes_ | oh you got a git account? |
| 01:49.39 | ginge | no no no. |
| 01:49.50 | ginge | the rtc code is in git already, did you try it? |
| 01:50.08 | dcordes_ | of course.. the marbalon |
| 01:50.11 | dcordes_ | no |
| 01:50.23 | dcordes_ | I only ran your .25 image with rtc |
| 01:50.30 | dcordes_ | but didn't check for smd |
| 01:50.36 | ginge | :/ |
| 01:50.46 | ginge | so none of it is tested |
| 01:50.55 | dcordes_ | I assumed marbalon tested it |
| 01:51.02 | ginge | O.o |
| 01:51.12 | dcordes_ | ? |
| 01:51.15 | ginge | can you try your .24 git enable rtc and see if smd works please |
| 01:51.25 | dcordes_ | yes 3 mins |
| 01:51.52 | dcordes_ | my commit from 2008-07-27 doesn't do anything |
| 01:51.54 | ginge | If I tell someone my patch would work I assume that there will be at least three problems, and hope someone sees them :) |
| 01:52.08 | ginge | no rush... just curious |
| 01:52.34 | dcordes_ | I didn't test it enough |
| 01:52.50 | dcordes_ | the keyboard problem is very random |
| 01:53.04 | ginge | dont really get it happen that often |
| 01:53.28 | dcordes_ | me n'either |
| 01:53.55 | ginge | not enough for me to worry about at this stage |
| 01:56.26 | dcordes_ | ginge: I have 2.6.24 with CONFIG_RTC_DRV_MSM7x00=y running. |
| 01:56.41 | ginge | smd major ok? |
| 01:56.49 | ginge | what is the major btw? |
| 01:56.53 | dcordes_ | I fetched htc-msm the other day and patched with ts fixes. |
| 01:57.19 | dcordes_ | I only got 0 1 2 3 7 |
| 01:57.35 | ginge | yeah but whats the major numbers of those? |
| 01:57.37 | dcordes_ | that's AT GPRS mystery1 mystery2 GPS no? |
| 01:57.50 | ginge | cat /proc/devices |
| 01:58.03 | ginge | or ls -l /dev/smd* |
| 01:58.10 | dcordes_ | they are not listed there |
| 01:58.20 | ginge | where? |
| 01:58.27 | dcordes_ | 01237 |
| 01:58.35 | dcordes_ | 253 |
| 01:58.36 | ginge | you should have 253 smd |
| 01:59.06 | dcordes_ | sorry, smd 253 is present in /proc/devices |
| 01:59.22 | ginge | okay, if data works, its okay |
| 01:59.39 | ginge | just image that had it hard coded would break (android sd images etc) |
| 01:59.47 | dcordes_ | date matches my desktop time |
| 01:59.51 | dcordes_ | so the rtc seems to work right? |
| 02:00.16 | dcordes_ | why would something break? |
| 02:00.47 | ginge | before rtc the smd was 254 |
| 02:00.52 | dcordes_ | oh |
| 02:01.00 | dcordes_ | got it.,. |
| 02:02.47 | dcordes_ | ginge: did you ever try wifi? |
| 02:02.56 | ginge | working on it now |
| 02:03.11 | dcordes_ | you seen my conv. with san? |
| 02:03.19 | ginge | no? |
| 02:03.28 | dcordes_ | or rather his pointer with the wifi irq sdio |
| 02:03.39 | dcordes_ | GPIO for wifi irq. |
| 02:03.55 | ginge | when? |
| 02:04.07 | dcordes_ | yesterday |
| 02:04.15 | ginge | oh, yeah I think I found that one already |
| 02:04.39 | dcordes_ | basically, that's all info I got from him. |
| 02:04.51 | dcordes_ | so a logread won't be worth the time |
| 02:05.28 | dcordes_ | right, he also revealed that he knows the TNETW1251 |
| 02:05.38 | marajin | ginge: I got the impression that the wireless is basically working perfectly in acx100 as long as you provide the right info to it but it's not explicit |
| 02:05.53 | dcordes_ | brb |
| 02:06.01 | ginge | mostly yeah, sdio is being a pita |
| 02:06.09 | marajin | but yeah, he definitedly recognized the 1251 |
| 02:06.25 | marajin | .. i speks inglesh gud |
| 02:06.28 | ginge | there are some more gpios that I need to find that do other (undefined) stuff |
| 02:07.01 | marajin | you can do it! |
| 02:07.59 | ginge | yeah nearly got something going |
| 02:08.06 | ginge | then I will get dma errors ;) |
| 02:08.31 | marajin | :D |
| 02:08.35 | marajin | you luffs it! |
| 02:08.51 | ginge | smashes a brick over his head |
| 02:09.10 | marajin | a large gold brick wrapped in a lemon slice? |
| 02:09.36 | ginge | with a pink ribbon inscribed with the words "OMG ponies!" |
| 02:10.18 | marajin | ya know I can technically oblige the ponies point :P |
| 02:10.51 | ginge | also I am just about to kill asp.net with a big stick, grind it down into paste, burn it, stomp on it, take a piss on it, and then fire it into the sun. |
| 02:11.09 | marajin | man, you must like it on the relative scale of things |
| 02:11.43 | ginge | If I want augenerated code that looks like it was written by a child, and horrible intine css and sizes forced in for no reason, yeah! |
| 02:12.02 | ginge | and "features" that dont work |
| 02:12.37 | ginge | is looking at triggers |
| 02:12.52 | ginge | this is the first and last time I touch asp |
| 02:13.06 | marajin | heh |
| 02:13.12 | marajin | not an uncommon sentiment |
| 02:17.20 | dcordes_ | asp.net lol |
| 02:17.40 | dcordes_ | ginge: you need to go there for work purposes |
| 02:17.41 | dcordes_ | ? |
| 02:26.26 | ginge | I normally do lower level c stuff, but the asp guy quit and I have to finish his code ... quickly |
| 02:26.36 | marajin | sucks |
| 02:26.42 | ginge | indeed |
| 02:26.51 | marajin | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.24 | ginge | heh punishment |
| 02:27.35 | marajin | hey I can throw people, chairs should be easy ;) |
| 02:27.52 | ginge | :) |
| 02:28.13 | ginge | we are all going to be offshored next year anyway |
| 02:28.21 | marajin | yow |
| 02:28.22 | ginge | the asp guys anyway |
| 02:28.34 | marajin | offshoring low level is dodgy though |
| 02:28.41 | marajin | it comes back as ... |
| 02:28.41 | marajin | heh |
| 02:28.55 | ginge | luckily I deal with stuff that is uk only, as needs a uk dev to make it work |
| 02:29.08 | marajin | lucky bastard :P |
| 02:29.14 | marajin | job security is nice |
| 02:29.16 | ginge | we shall see |
| 02:30.34 | ginge | ah crap. I forget to change something in the android image ai just repacked. I was just about to hit run |
| 02:34.26 | marajin | ginge: more caffeine? |
| 02:52.36 | marajin | rofl |
| 02:52.46 | marajin | ok I was just watching the olympic closing bit from earlier |
| 02:52.59 | marajin | "Maybe London olympics need to be...well. if not _disorderly_" |
| 02:53.20 | marajin | wtf? they want our olympic staging to be a mess? |
| 02:54.27 | dcordes_ | I'll get some tv too |
| 02:54.51 | dcordes_ | later guys |
| 02:55.00 | marajin | see ya dcordes_ |
| 03:30.08 | marajin | exits with SIGNOBOOZELEFT |
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| 14:27.48 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 14:28.08 | dcordes_ | SIGNOBOOZELEFT lol |
| 14:28.19 | dcordes_ | marajin: nice one |
| 14:30.40 | zoolooc | dcordes_: marajin: are boozes some kaiser interbals :P ? |
| 14:31.56 | dcordes_ | no but they are important to take the pain with wifi not working |
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| 14:37.52 | tgreer | hey all...do you know if text messages are stored on the phone or on the sim with the kaiser? |
| 14:38.03 | tgreer | just my screen's trashed n i has 2 text messages to read... |
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| 14:55.18 | Alex[sp3dev] | hello everyone. has anybody here tested udc on pxa270 in mainline after the patch that split udc between 250 and 270? (it was in mainline after 2.6.27-rc1)? |
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| 15:52.02 | BabelO_ | hello SanMehat |
| 15:52.10 | SanMehat | hey BabelO_ |
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| 18:27.50 | fnord_ | holy crap, not only does this channel really exist, there are 63 people here |
| 18:28.23 | Miek | ! |
| 18:29.24 | fnord_ | i finally gave up on Palm/Treo, and moved to a Tilt |
| 18:29.32 | fnord_ | but a month of WM has me pulling my hair out |
| 18:38.51 | dcordes | welcome aboard |
| 18:39.09 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
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| 19:05.12 | marajin | dcordes: haha :P what a recruitment speech |
| 19:05.35 | marajin | fnord_: yep basically we agree so we're putting google android and linux on the tilt/kaiser/stellar/whateveryouwanttocallit |
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| 19:28.32 | ali1234 | BabelO: linux serial core is seriously doing my head in. i can't even get the tiny tty driver to work. |
| 19:31.44 | ali1234 | hmm. i just found something claiming to be "version 2.0" |
| 19:31.49 | ali1234 | maybe it will actually work... |
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| 20:28.41 | wasup | hmm.... anyone have any luck with dzo newest android release for the titan?? |
| 20:29.37 | ali1234 | no but i have a new keyboard test for you to try |
| 20:31.32 | wasup | yeah? |
| 20:31.40 | wasup | where do i download? |
| 20:32.04 | ali1234 | http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/zImage |
| 20:32.42 | Zoolooc | is there actually a new android image for the kaiser (based on newest sdk for example)? |
| 20:33.17 | ali1234 | wasup: when you boot it (assuming it works) the keyboard will not produce characters, instead you should see messages on the syslog which tell you the row and column of the key you pressed |
| 20:33.42 | ali1234 | you will need to boot using a rootfs that shows you the syslog though, such as gizard |
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| 20:35.53 | ali1234 | hi miknix. any idea why add_timer() is making my wizard segfault or freeze? |
| 20:36.21 | miknix | ali1234, add_timer() ? where? |
| 20:36.51 | ali1234 | in the tiny serial driver (an example tty serial driver) |
| 20:37.14 | miknix | oh. sorry, never played with serial |
| 20:37.28 | ali1234 | it doesnt actually touch any hardware |
| 20:37.41 | ali1234 | it just uses a timer to produce fake output from the tty |
| 20:37.52 | miknix | hum.. |
| 20:38.01 | wasup | so what all do i need to download? |
| 20:38.03 | ali1234 | but when it tries to add the timer, it either segfaults the kernel or freezes the wizard completely |
| 20:38.10 | wasup | i need to boot angstrom to test the keyboard? |
| 20:38.33 | miknix | ali1234, are you using the i2c-cpld driver? |
| 20:38.44 | ali1234 | miknix: no, this has nothing to do with any driver |
| 20:39.03 | miknix | ali1234, yeah, but it might be related |
| 20:39.06 | ali1234 | miknix: code: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~baker/devices/lxr/http/source/ldd-examples/tty/tiny_serial.c |
| 20:39.13 | miknix | are you using it? |
| 20:39.15 | ali1234 | no |
| 20:39.22 | ali1234 | not that i know of |
| 20:40.11 | ali1234 | wasup: you need a rootfs that displays the syslog... so doesnt load up X or anything like that |
| 20:40.12 | miknix | ok. cause using the i2c-cpld driver with omap-i2c produces interrupt conflicts |
| 20:40.22 | miknix | and hangs the device |
| 20:40.38 | ali1234 | well... i dont even know if this uses interrupts. i guess the timer must do. but add_timer never even returns |
| 20:41.49 | miknix | hum.. |
| 20:42.19 | miknix | I would look to omap clocks |
| 20:42.39 | miknix | that timer should be using some clock that is not working |
| 20:43.15 | miknix | well.. I have to go. good luck :) |
| 20:43.23 | ali1234 | cheers... cya |
| 20:44.52 | wasup | ali1234: a little more detail? im not too smart on this stuff but give me directions and i follow them to the T |
| 20:45.09 | ali1234 | wasup: download this: http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080602.tar.bz2 |
| 20:46.33 | ali1234 | extract the file "initrd" from it |
| 20:46.53 | ali1234 | copy it to your device in the folder where you keep haret and initrd images and kernels etc |
| 20:46.59 | ali1234 | rename it if you want |
| 20:47.09 | ali1234 | initrd-gizard might be a good choice |
| 20:47.42 | ali1234 | next copy the zImage you downloaded before to the same folder. rename that too if you want. zImage-kbtest |
| 20:47.51 | ali1234 | then edit your default.txt |
| 20:48.16 | ali1234 | set KERNEL "zImage-kbtest" |
| 20:48.24 | ali1234 | set INITRD "initrd-gizard" |
| 20:48.31 | ali1234 | save it, and boot using haret |
| 20:50.47 | ali1234 | hopefully after a while you should see "linwizard login:" on the screen |
| 20:51.02 | ali1234 | then start hitting keys and make a note of the messages |
| 20:56.56 | wasup | ok.. |
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| 21:03.00 | dwaradzyn | any luck with running android 0.9 on kaiser/polaris ? |
| 21:06.31 | wasup | kaiser hasnt ran yet? |
| 21:06.40 | wasup | it booted up on my titan... but it says locked |
| 21:06.50 | wasup | i cant find the menu key...hahaha |
| 21:07.06 | herriojr | ok, so the m5 build doesn't work for the vogue I have, but the 0.9 does |
| 21:09.05 | zule | you try the arrow keys for menu? |
| 21:09.57 | dwaradzyn | i tried on my polaris, with vogue initrd, system.gz and data.gz and polaris kernel. it hangs on "Please append a correct root=....", i think it does not execute vogues initrd at all |
| 21:10.37 | ali1234 | so near yet so far |
| 21:12.02 | wasup | dude.. it just sits at the booting linux screen and freezes |
| 21:12.58 | ali1234 | well... that's normal for haret isn't it? |
| 21:13.55 | ali1234 | quite possibly that kernel is not quite compatible with your device. it was based on htckaiser_defconfig |
| 21:23.06 | ali1234 | is it possible to extract the config.gz from a kernel compiled with /proc/config.gz support, without booting the kernel? |
| 21:25.56 | SanMehat | i'm sure its *possible* |
| 21:26.20 | SanMehat | you'll need to see how /proc/zConfig works and where it gets the data from... |
| 21:37.05 | dwaradzyn | finally: Please wait... Extracting System Image :) |
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| 21:39.29 | dwaradzyn | mmc0: DMA failed |
| 21:40.40 | dwaradzyn | is the reason for dma problem with sdcard known? can anyone briefly describe what needs to be done in order to fix i? |
| 21:41.07 | ali1234 | it's known, but nobody knows how to fix it |
| 21:44.00 | ali1234 | to extract .config: http://www.cs.caltech.edu/~weixl/research/fast-mon/scripts/extract-ikconfig |
| 21:44.03 | herriojr | has anyone tried Android 0.9 on a CDMA phone? |
| 21:44.08 | ali1234 | thanks, wikipedia! |
| 21:44.34 | herriojr | I got it installed, but I can't get the data connection to work (although I can make phone calls) |
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| 21:51.46 | Zoolooc | herriojr: so there are already android 0.9 images in the wild? |
| 21:52.58 | zule | yes |
| 21:53.07 | zule | the dzo version for the cdma vogue works great |
| 21:53.38 | zule | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/android-new.zip |
| 21:54.13 | zule | data works fine on my sprint vogue |
| 21:55.02 | marajin | Zoolooc: yeah the vogue one is fine but on the kaiser the SD issue kills us, otherwise it'd technically work as well as it does on the vogue AFAIK |
| 21:55.04 | Zoolooc | thx zule |
| 21:55.32 | marajin | it has been booted on the kaiser but it crashed at the desktop (SD issue) so.. |
| 21:55.38 | Zoolooc | marajin: too bad this sd issue is not yet under control |
| 21:56.02 | marajin | Zoolooc: I know :( |
| 21:56.05 | zule | did you have the sd working on m5 version with kaiser? |
| 21:56.21 | marajin | zule: No the bug is in the kernel, all systems crash with it |
| 21:56.22 | Zoolooc | is it only available as a file system, no initrd, or maybe too large for initrd? |
| 21:56.36 | marajin | Zoolooc: We haven't bothered making an initrd.. I guess no one really sees the point |
| 21:56.43 | marajin | but technically it should be possible |
| 21:56.53 | marajin | though with that 25mb limit... iunno |
| 21:56.57 | Zoolooc | marajin: you're actually right |
| 21:57.28 | marajin | yeah |
| 21:57.36 | marajin | initrds are only useful for proof-of-concept |
| 21:57.46 | marajin | and well.. we KNOW it works if the SD issue is fixed |
| 21:58.15 | Zoolooc | is that SD kernel issue dangerous for partitions on the card, other than the one being used under linux? |
| 21:58.30 | zule | initrd might be useful if you need to re-enable mpu after haret kills it |
| 21:58.40 | zule | err, mmu |
| 21:58.43 | marajin | I'm not entirely sure. I've had card corruption but I think that might have been caused by something else (dodgy card reader) |
| 21:59.07 | marajin | zule: that's the vogue though, I dunno if the kaiser has issues at all in that respect |
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| 22:01.31 | wasup | how do you unlock the andriod screen? |
| 22:01.35 | wasup | it says press menu |
| 22:01.39 | wasup | i dont see menu |
| 22:02.34 | zule | what build? |
| 22:03.06 | zule | dzo's build on the vogue has menu as the right d-pad |
| 22:08.52 | wasup | oh... |
| 22:08.59 | wasup | right dpad for titan? |
| 22:09.32 | zule | herriojr, try yournum@vzw3g.com and password vzw |
| 22:09.39 | zule | in regard to your post |
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| 22:40.22 | herriojr | ok |
| 22:40.44 | marajin | herriojr: mmr? |
| 22:40.53 | herriojr | mmr means what? |
| 22:41.01 | marajin | generic query noise |
| 22:41.27 | marajin | ya know like when people don't really say something but just make a noise ? |
| 22:41.33 | marajin | and they usually go mm? or mmr? |
| 22:41.52 | ali1234 | mmr? |
| 22:42.05 | marajin | or when they're just subhuman like ali1234 |
| 22:42.13 | herriojr | lol |
| 22:42.35 | ali1234 | well you got me there |
| 22:45.23 | marajin | rofl |
| 22:45.28 | marajin | I love my kaiser sometimes |
| 22:45.42 | marajin | "bingbingbingbing! Your birthday in 15 minutes!" |
| 22:45.47 | marajin | yeah, cause I'd forgotten |
| 22:51.22 | NAiL | haha |
| 22:55.06 | marajin | gotta love it |
| 22:55.22 | marajin | it fascinates people when my phone just randomly announces appointments |
| 22:55.33 | marajin | my doctor loves it I know that much.. |
| 22:57.18 | herriojr | ok, so the touch doesn't seem to get data connection at all with putting in mynum@vzw3g.com vzw |
| 22:58.04 | marajin | herriojr: did you look up the details for your provider on google? |
| 22:58.06 | marajin | it usually knows |
| 22:58.14 | marajin | and/or steal the info from windows mobile? |
| 23:00.49 | herriojr | yes, I looked it up |
| 23:01.36 | herriojr | I'm supposed to look up apn username/pass right? |
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| 23:06.12 | herriojr | this is what I get out of google:Username for APN: No configuration needed |
| 23:06.12 | herriojr | Password for APN: No configuration needed |
| 23:07.19 | ali1234 | yep, mobile data doesn't need a username and password for authentication. the only reason they give you one is so you have something to type into the windows DUN config wizard |
| 23:07.34 | ali1234 | but in reality you can type anything you want in those boxes |
| 23:08.43 | ali1234 | what you do need is the APN, which has to be right for your operator and also for whatever country you are in |
| 23:08.56 | herriojr | everyone says make a data connection before starting android, and my evdo network is connected, but it doesn't work when I open android |
| 23:09.16 | herriojr | I'm not given the option in the default.txt file to set the apn |
| 23:10.04 | marajin | evdo? hmm, I have no idea on that count |
| 23:10.27 | herriojr | what data connection were you referring to? |
| 23:11.26 | ali1234 | what do you mean when you say "network is connected" |
| 23:11.47 | marajin | I'm guessing windows mobile has connected to the data |
| 23:11.55 | ali1234 | that's not very useful for linux? |
| 23:11.55 | herriojr | by default, it is active |
| 23:11.57 | marajin | I don't really know what evdo is like compared to gprs/etc. |
| 23:12.02 | herriojr | yeah, I know, that's why I'm confused |
| 23:12.14 | marajin | ali1234: nope but there may be some initialization of the modem done by windows mobile that helps |
| 23:13.07 | ali1234 | but the ppp script resets the modem and tries to connect on gprs... |
| 23:13.40 | marajin | ali1234: Rub your eyes and re-read, he's trying to do data in android |
| 23:13.56 | ali1234 | right |
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| 23:14.30 | marajin | hmm, where's ginge anyway? did he lose it at work and savagely murder the boss or something? |
| 23:15.02 | ali1234 | i thought to get data in android, you had to use the ppp script by ginge? |
| 23:15.30 | marajin | ali1234: nah the vogue has data in android and it's not ginge's script |
| 23:15.46 | herriojr | brb |
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| 23:16.19 | marajin | ginge did some work to get it working on the kaiser but I have NFC how exactly he sets up gprs, it was very unstable and unreliable compared to under angstrom so my guess was it was done via different means |
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| 23:16.52 | ali1234 | he wrote a script that sends some AT commands to the modem, to reset it and start a gprs connection |
| 23:17.04 | marajin | yeah ppp.sh which we use under angstrom distros |
| 23:17.10 | ali1234 | the parameters of which are read from kernel command line |
| 23:17.29 | ginge | ali1234: yeah, but not the same script as angstrom, just similar parametes |
| 23:17.29 | marajin | but under android he may have done something else (perhaps just given android certain settings and used google scripts/binaries?) |
| 23:17.32 | ginge | setup_modem.sh |
| 23:17.38 | marajin | there we go :p |
| 23:17.40 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
| 23:17.50 | ginge | lo |
| 23:18.03 | ginge | I think my hand is going to fall off. I was trying to do through fire and flames |
| 23:18.14 | marajin | :D |
| 23:18.16 | marajin | on what level? |
| 23:18.21 | ginge | medium |
| 23:18.25 | marajin | wuss :p |
| 23:18.30 | ginge | I only got the game saturday! |
| 23:18.33 | marajin | wuss! |
| 23:18.39 | marajin | got the wii version? |
| 23:18.42 | ginge | yeah |
| 23:18.53 | marajin | that version messes with me.. |
| 23:18.59 | ginge | howso? |
| 23:19.00 | marajin | you get the vision distortion when you look away from the screen? :P |
| 23:19.14 | marajin | it's very common with playing guitar hero but the wii version does it reaaaally badly for me |
| 23:19.30 | marajin | on PC/X360 on the same screen it's very mild though |
| 23:19.36 | ginge | marajin: yeah trippy |
| 23:19.51 | ginge | only lasts for a second tho |
| 23:19.55 | marajin | yeah |
| 23:20.03 | marajin | but basically the wii was doing it to me so badly that I'd get dizzy |
| 23:20.18 | ginge | its kinda fun. |
| 23:20.22 | marajin | hah |
| 23:20.28 | ginge | I mamaged to compelte the easy and medium in 4 hours |
| 23:20.35 | marajin | that'll happen yeah |
| 23:20.37 | ginge | hard is a bitch |
| 23:20.43 | marajin | the 5th fret? |
| 23:20.45 | marajin | you get used to it |
| 23:20.46 | ginge | yeah |
| 23:20.55 | ginge | it makes yo learn the shit way first tho |
| 23:21.03 | marajin | I can motor through hard songs even without prior exposure to the songs |
| 23:21.03 | ginge | before you realise you need to move your hand |
| 23:21.29 | marajin | i.e. I got GH3, played it plenty, got GH2 coupla days ago.. shot through on hard, never actually failed a song |
| 23:21.30 | ginge | brrrb |
| 23:21.51 | marajin | you don't have to move your hand unless you have tiny hands but it helps |
| 23:33.16 | NAiL | marajin: What race are you? There's no way I can reach the 5th fret without moving |
| 23:33.30 | marajin | er |
| 23:33.37 | marajin | I'm just english with average hand size? |
| 23:33.42 | NAiL | hehe |
| 23:33.59 | marajin | seriously I don't hve to move my /hand/ to get the 5th, just stretch to it |
| 23:34.03 | marajin | have to in some songs |
| 23:34.04 | NAiL | ah |
| 23:34.08 | ginge | marajin: Happy Birthday man |
| 23:34.08 | NAiL | mmhm |
| 23:34.18 | NAiL | congratulations, marajin |
| 23:34.41 | marajin | ginge: heh, thanks, I'm going to try to fleece some relatives then I can buy a replacement laptop ;) |
| 23:34.56 | ginge | sounds like a good plan :) |
| 23:34.57 | NAiL | is working on rock band :-P |
| 23:35.18 | ginge | is working on releasing his clawed hand |
| 23:35.30 | NAiL | hehe |
| 23:35.40 | NAiL | Finished the "endless set list" last week |
| 23:35.47 | NAiL | *that* was hard |
| 23:36.14 | marajin | ginge: Might get an ultra portable this time, TBH I never used my laptop for much power things except transcoding and well.. my desktop (x2 6000) and perses (quad 2.66 xeon) can pretty much take care of that |
| 23:36.28 | ginge | cool, cheap too |
| 23:36.32 | marajin | NAiL: I grabbed a copy of rockband but didn't play it yet.. I'm finishing of GH2 |
| 23:36.43 | marajin | ginge: ~450 quid yep |
| 23:36.49 | marajin | and 5 hour battery life |
| 23:36.50 | NAiL | marajin: I've finished GH2 on expert :D |
| 23:37.07 | marajin | NAiL: having tarted on 3, I find gh2 laughably easy on hard yeah |
| 23:37.14 | marajin | 3 is harder than 2 |
| 23:37.22 | NAiL | (as well as hard and medium. Only "missing" easy, but it's really hard to play easy after expert...) |
| 23:37.33 | NAiL | 3 is impossible |
| 23:37.33 | marajin | true :P |
| 23:37.37 | marajin | the songs are too slow |
| 23:37.48 | marajin | NAiL: I completed 3 on hard, about 1/2 way through on expert |
| 23:38.01 | NAiL | Through fire and flames is designed for 14-year olds with extreme adhd |
| 23:38.19 | marajin | I love 2's messages though :P "Dropping your pants on stage does NOT deploy star-power" |
| 23:38.22 | NAiL | haha |
| 23:38.51 | NAiL | Rock Band rocks btw |
| 23:39.10 | NAiL | And the "endless setlist" is 58 songs in a row, no breaks ;) |
| 23:39.32 | NAiL | Took a friend and me 4.5 hours |
| 23:40.42 | NAiL | the rock band guitar sucks though |
| 23:40.56 | NAiL | have had it replaced, but still have the same problems |
| 23:41.10 | marajin | it's compat with the GH ones on the 360 I think? |
| 23:41.28 | NAiL | yeah, except you loose the "solo-button-thingys" |
| 23:41.35 | NAiL | s/oo/o/ |
| 23:42.40 | NAiL | wouldn't have had a chance to play through the endless setlist with the RB guitar. Eg. "Timmeh and the lords of the underworld", I'd fail 15 seconds in |
| 23:43.16 | NAiL | It seems they've redesigned the sensors/buttons for RB2 though. I really hope so ;) |
| 23:44.27 | marajin | I was gonna make a custom GH guitar |
| 23:45.01 | marajin | I did the design but I I couldn't find enough decent wood in my pile of spare scrap wood |
| 23:45.05 | marajin | :( |
| 23:45.40 | marajin | well rather I did but the main body/neck I wanted to make was juuuuuuuuuuuuust a bit too big for the piece I found :P |
| 23:45.50 | marajin | I could probably BS it in pieces but I was too lazy |
| 23:50.48 | herriojr | ok, I figured it out |
| 23:51.10 | herriojr | I had to open internet explorer first |
| 23:51.21 | herriojr | I didn't really understand when people said to start a data connection first |
| 23:51.30 | herriojr | I thought they meant to just make sure EVDO is up |
| 23:51.46 | herriojr | terminology and wording strikes again :) |
| 23:51.53 | marajin | that'll happen |
| 23:51.57 | marajin | as long as it gets sorted eventually :) |
| 23:55.44 | marajin | ginge: regaining motion in the hand then or shall we get you booked it for a bionic replacement? ;) |