| 00:02.23 | dcordes | somebody ever read the EULA? |
| 00:02.33 | dcordes | I think I will remove the images from ltg |
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| 07:50.32 | ginge | morning. New android SDK I see |
| 07:50.53 | ali1234 | yeah i downloaded it already :) :) :) |
| 07:50.58 | ginge | any good? |
| 07:51.11 | ali1234 | dunno im eating breakfast |
| 07:51.18 | ginge | mmm breakfast |
| 07:53.02 | ali1234 | mmm rice crispies... anyway lets see what it does |
| 07:53.31 | ginge | do some screens for me :) |
| 07:58.52 | Marajin | morning ginge |
| 07:59.02 | Marajin | ginge: Dcordes was ranting about the EULA being dodgy |
| 07:59.14 | ginge | Marajin: howso? |
| 07:59.27 | Marajin | ginge: Haven't read it myself yet, I did grab the sdk and launch the emu, looks like we have the home screen from the youtube videos now. |
| 07:59.38 | Marajin | ginge: Complete with moveable widgets and oversize scrollable desktop |
| 07:59.43 | ginge | ah, nice |
| 07:59.54 | ginge | still no source? |
| 08:00.16 | Marajin | they give the source to bits I think. I haven't dug much I was tired |
| 08:00.34 | ali1234 | ok i ran the emulator, it just says "A N D R O I D _" and nothing happens? |
| 08:00.56 | ali1234 | oh right it takes AGES to boot |
| 08:01.06 | Marajin | yeah it takes forever first time |
| 08:01.10 | Marajin | I thought it'd crashed |
| 08:01.27 | Marajin | eventually though you get the little green android then the home screen |
| 08:01.33 | ali1234 | yeah got that now |
| 08:09.35 | ali1234 | ok it finally loaded |
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| 08:11.53 | ali1234 | oh man that sucks |
| 08:12.14 | ali1234 | as you type in a password the actual characters appear for a split second before being replaced with *** |
| 08:13.28 | Marajin | haha |
| 08:13.38 | Marajin | all your password are belong to us! |
| 08:13.41 | ginge | I see what you mean about the extended boot progess |
| 08:13.54 | ginge | no cylon now? |
| 08:14.00 | Marajin | Nah |
| 08:14.08 | ginge | :( |
| 08:14.09 | Marajin | Just the little green robot |
| 08:14.19 | ginge | sobs into cornflakes |
| 08:14.27 | Marajin | AT least you thought it was a cylon, how many people thought it was KITT?! |
| 08:14.32 | Marajin | android.. cylon, DUH |
| 08:14.47 | ginge | thats just foolish |
| 08:15.08 | ali1234 | but but... knightrider was a much better show!!! |
| 08:15.23 | Marajin | I'm tempted toagree with you in the face of the new one |
| 08:15.24 | ginge | that isopen to debate |
| 08:15.28 | Marajin | I watch it but Idunno WHY |
| 08:15.40 | ginge | not seen much after season 1 |
| 08:15.52 | Marajin | It gets irritating, its corrie in space at this point |
| 08:15.58 | ginge | it was all just a bit too... I dunno really. Just annoying |
| 08:16.01 | ginge | lol |
| 08:16.15 | Marajin | we're cylons, except we're human now and we want BABIES! >.< |
| 08:16.22 | Marajin | yeah.. believeable |
| 08:16.53 | Marajin | I'd rant but if you actually want to watch the show without spoilers that'd be cruel :P |
| 08:17.21 | ginge | hey, you know what? Android is actually looking nice now |
| 08:17.36 | Marajin | yeah it's like the youtube videos, the stuff we ACTUALLYthought was cool :P |
| 08:17.45 | Marajin | but boy, took long enough |
| 08:17.59 | Marajin | notice it has a messaging app now? |
| 08:18.02 | ginge | thats my task for tonight :) |
| 08:18.31 | Marajin | ginge: Heh, I took a brief glance at it but I haven't woken up yet so, I defer to your superior geekery anyway ;) |
| 08:18.43 | ginge | oh wait, I'm out again. ok you gotta rip it to an image :) |
| 08:18.59 | Marajin | fk'at, dzo or dcordes can do it :P |
| 08:19.27 | ginge | heh |
| 08:19.34 | Marajin | that's if dcordes has stopped being morally outraged yet |
| 08:19.38 | ginge | scolling background too |
| 08:19.47 | ginge | I have to read this EULA |
| 08:19.47 | Marajin | I did mention that yeah |
| 08:19.52 | ginge | yeah |
| 08:19.58 | Marajin | "oversized scrollable desktop" I believe I said ;P |
| 08:20.17 | Marajin | they've had it for ages, I've seen them demo it in youtube videos a few times |
| 08:20.29 | Marajin | makes you wonder wtf we had the old interface for |
| 08:20.51 | Marajin | but heh.. they give the source for the old UI for compatability |
| 08:21.05 | Marajin | cause ya know, some people might want to use the old UI rather than update their app |
| 08:22.34 | dzo | morning, i got the new sdk booting on vogue,but they changed the ril so will have to make some changes for it all to work. |
| 08:22.45 | Marajin | dzo: nifty |
| 08:23.13 | Marajin | ginge: See, this is why I get to just tinker and test, other people do the hard work already :P |
| 08:24.02 | ginge | dzo: morning. nice |
| 08:24.08 | Marajin | ginge: Anyway I have NFC why he's mad at the Eula, I just saw him go "Have you read the EULA?" and then "I think I'll remove the images from LTG" |
| 08:24.51 | ali1234 | i didnt notice any difference between the new one and the old one |
| 08:25.07 | Marajin | is the old one hitlerific? I never read that one either |
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| 08:25.21 | ali1234 | not particularly |
| 08:25.42 | Marajin | Well who knows... |
| 08:25.54 | Marajin | I'm sure he'll explain when he wakes up |
| 08:26.06 | Marajin | meanwhile I go in search of caffeinated godliness |
| 08:26.09 | ali1234 | i only skimmed it |
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| 08:38.50 | ALoGeNo | hi |
| 08:39.01 | Babel1 | hi ALoGeNo |
| 08:39.21 | ALoGeNo | hi Babel1 |
| 08:41.52 | Marajin | dzo: How big is the new image btw? |
| 08:43.43 | dzo | similar size, 64M I think. |
| 08:44.17 | Marajin | Well I mean raw bare minimum, we can initrd it on the kaiser? |
| 08:44.22 | Marajin | since SD issues remain AFAIK |
| 08:46.55 | swetland | one nice thing about the latest sdk is the emulator kernel drivers are identical to the android-2.6.25 branch on git.android.com |
| 08:47.26 | swetland | I think M5 was just before the big binder driver overhaul and that probably caused a lot of confusion |
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| 08:56.36 | Marajin | wb ginge |
| 08:56.53 | ginge | hmm qem took my machine down |
| 08:56.54 | ginge | qemu |
| 08:57.11 | ginge | then pindows update had to install 900GB of shite |
| 08:57.18 | ginge | damn I hate windows |
| 08:57.36 | Marajin | 900GB? :p |
| 08:57.48 | Marajin | Not a fan of hyperbole are you? |
| 08:57.50 | ginge | well 1.1GB |
| 08:57.53 | ginge | ;) |
| 08:58.48 | Marajin | wth is 1.1GB of windows update though? that's bigger than the actual windows base install |
| 08:58.54 | BabelO_ | ginge: in France we say that you are from Marseille with your 900Gb of windows update :) |
| 08:59.19 | BabelO_ | ginge: i just ran Windows XP LSD in a xen machine now |
| 08:59.40 | ginge | Marajin: it downloaded a load of updates then decided I needed SP2 and then it installed some post SP2 updates before deciding I need SP3. |
| 08:59.46 | ginge | then it said something about office updates |
| 08:59.49 | ginge | its a joke on a stick |
| 09:00.06 | Marajin | you've never seen gentoo or ubuntu do updates then eh? |
| 09:00.08 | Marajin | :> |
| 09:00.09 | ginge | BabelO_: is that an insult then? |
| 09:00.27 | ginge | Marajin: yeah, near daily, but I dont have to reboot 15 times to install each update |
| 09:00.32 | ali1234 | ubuntu updates are optional, clearly labelled, and nowhere near that big |
| 09:00.51 | ginge | ali1234: yeah |
| 09:00.59 | BabelO_ | ginge: noo, just to told you that all guys from Marseille say all is bigger than what you see :) |
| 09:01.11 | ginge | oh I see :) |
| 09:02.02 | ginge | oh come on, there cant be more updates |
| 09:02.14 | ginge | if it wasn't set via a GP I would disable it |
| 09:02.46 | Marajin | ginge: heh fair point |
| 09:04.05 | ginge | ok, one last reboot. brb |
| 09:04.08 | lama | ali1234: lol you say that ubuntu updates are smaller than windows? :P |
| 09:04.21 | ali1234 | the individual updates, yes |
| 09:04.26 | lama | windows xp (sp1) is from around 2003 or something like that |
| 09:05.05 | Marajin | 2002 probably |
| 09:05.17 | Marajin | IIRC the XP + SP1 was called 2002 edition? |
| 09:05.36 | lama | buntu needs updates on the day it is released |
| 09:05.57 | lama | after one month you get more than it was ever released for windows XP including all SPs :P |
| 09:06.28 | ali1234 | it depends what you install |
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| 09:07.24 | Marajin | ginge: Dance! Reboot dance! Dance! Reboot dance! |
| 09:07.38 | ginge | right, now I can actually do some work without a reboot box popping every few minutes |
| 09:08.11 | ginge | hey, and I only wasted 1/8th of my day! |
| 09:08.11 | Marajin | one thing in vista's defense, you can actually get the update nag to go away for hours |
| 09:08.28 | ginge | I spoke too soon. |
| 09:09.13 | ginge | looks for the process ID and hides it |
| 09:09.18 | BabelO_ | lama: anyway when there is a security problem in windows, you get a fix two or three month later, on linux it is the same day :) |
| 09:09.47 | Marajin | BabelO_: And on OpenBSD it just never happened? ^_~ |
| 09:09.48 | ginge | but you get some moron developer commenting out some hash seeds ;) |
| 09:10.32 | BabelO_ | ginge: lol, i see you refer to debian ssl package :) |
| 09:10.41 | ginge | ahem ;) |
| 09:11.02 | BabelO_ | anyone get experience about xen here ? |
| 09:11.16 | ali1234 | if the code was properly commented in the first place, that would never have happened |
| 09:12.59 | ginge | ali1234: says mr one comment every 40,000 lines of code, if that |
| 09:13.21 | ali1234 | well if you are going to comment only one line, it would be the one that looks like a bug but is actually intentional |
| 09:13.43 | ginge | good point, well made |
| 09:22.37 | lama | BabelO_: I have some |
| 09:23.37 | lama | Marajin: if someone outside Openbsd finds a hole in it, it is not a hole it is feature/design |
| 09:23.47 | lama | Theo is "different" :P |
| 09:23.55 | ginge | Theo is a pita |
| 09:33.43 | BabelO_ | lama: did you try to forward USB pci adress to a windows DomU ? |
| 09:37.11 | lama | hmm I think it is impossible |
| 09:37.29 | lama | afaik you can forwared devices on software XEN only |
| 09:37.56 | lama | and windows works on XEN-HVM only (you know VT extensions in CPU and qemu devices model) |
| 09:41.04 | BabelO_ | lama: i ve the VT extension, and it should be possible, as i can foward my PCITV DVB card to Windows DomU |
| 09:41.51 | BabelO_ | lama: there is pciback module, it is a module which allow you to remove a pci device from dom0 and send it to domU |
| 09:42.03 | BabelO_ | after that the device is dedicated to the domU you want |
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| 10:15.21 | ginge | dcordes: ping? |
| 10:17.34 | ginge | dcordes: when you are awake: I got X to load. You need to alloc more mem in platform data. I don't have the amount of mem to hand, but it is less than android needs, but more than 320*240*4. I think I added about 0xb000 to the amount of ram |
| 10:17.54 | ginge | afk for a couple of hours |
| 10:19.09 | swetland | android expects a 16bpp framebuffer that is big enough to flip between two fullscreen displays |
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| 10:35.11 | ginge | swetland: just out of interest, why the flipping/panning? |
| 10:43.45 | Marajin | ginge: I suspect it's a "because we can" |
| 10:44.12 | swetland | because we double buffer |
| 10:44.35 | swetland | to do smooth updates without tearing |
| 10:45.30 | swetland | o/~ Aperture Science / we do what we must / because we can |
| 10:45.42 | ginge | heh. ok, thanks |
| 10:45.46 | Marajin | feeds swetland some cake. |
| 11:01.07 | ginge | nice, a new record. I just wrote a kernel driver for an intel 2x64 Channel ISDN card in 4 days. If only msm chips were as easy to work with. |
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| 11:12.51 | ginge | pulls hair out. |
| 11:13.02 | ginge | An executive decision has been made to not use these ISDN cards |
| 11:13.10 | Marajin | ... |
| 11:13.18 | Marajin | would you hate me if I laughed? |
| 11:13.43 | ginge | yes, butyou are more than entitled to. |
| 11:13.54 | Marajin | heh |
| 11:14.24 | ginge | its fine, I really love wasting whole weeks of my life |
| 11:14.37 | Marajin | who doesn't? |
| 11:14.45 | Marajin | I mean it's like an ambition for most |
| 11:15.49 | ginge | okay, we are going with some new ISDN to VOIP solution. Time to learn VOIP. I just remembered why I keep taking secondments out of development |
| 11:16.10 | ginge | its because PHB's are all morons |
| 11:17.53 | ginge | erm. Things are going quite sour here. The project manager just picked up his coat and walked out. |
| 11:18.09 | ginge | oh, now I see why |
| 11:18.10 | Marajin | sounds interesting |
| 11:18.26 | ginge | we have 3 days to write drivers and support code for the new hardware |
| 11:18.33 | ginge | yeah, like that is going to happen |
| 11:18.55 | ginge | gotta love dev :) |
| 11:19.46 | ginge | errrr.... gtg 3 developers just quit. Cya |
| 11:20.22 | Marajin | yikes. |
| 11:20.24 | Marajin | catcha later man |
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| 11:52.38 | ginge | back. Time to decompile RIL unless dzo has done it already |
| 11:54.05 | Marajin | ginge: Dunno, he said he was gonna fiddle with it though |
| 11:54.25 | Marajin | dunno why I'm saying that sinc you were here at the time also ;) |
| 11:54.31 | ginge | hmm. I might leave it then. I should really finish power management. |
| 11:54.41 | ginge | I'm only half here at the moment ;) |
| 11:55.01 | Marajin | and half in the middle of a massive drama? ;) |
| 11:55.42 | ginge | yeah, I went for lunch to escape the flying chairs. It seems to have calmed down a little now... although I think we are a few developers and a project lead down |
| 11:56.14 | ginge | as well as a few chairs |
| 11:56.30 | Marajin | Zis is.. probably not good, yarr |
| 11:57.06 | ginge | meh. not my department :) |
| 11:57.27 | ginge | and .net devs are a penny a dozen :) |
| 11:58.57 | ginge | that will teach them that notwriting modular code will come back and bite you in the backside |
| 12:03.45 | zoolooc | heh, same over here... |
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| 12:06.58 | ginge | zoolooc: it gets fun when project deadlines approach and specifications change :) |
| 12:07.39 | zoolooc | ginge: don't tell me :P |
| 12:07.43 | Marajin | I guess it's better than not actually being given any specs ;) |
| 12:07.57 | ginge | Marajin: heh. yeah |
| 12:08.45 | ginge | got to say, this new android is really nice. |
| 12:09.08 | Marajin | a distinct improvement, yarr |
| 12:11.31 | ginge | Marajin: I take it you are still on the fence? |
| 12:12.31 | Marajin | I'm in no rush to commit absolutely :P |
| 12:12.49 | Marajin | I like the new UI now we've finally got it and I'm glad we have some more of the core inbuilt apps |
| 12:14.41 | ginge | hopefully it will stop all the "waa waa waa, we want the new SDK, we are entitled somehow" that I saw daily |
| 12:15.00 | ginge | false sense on entitlement bugs me lots |
| 12:15.13 | swetland | I'm sure people will find exciting new things to complain about! |
| 12:15.24 | Marajin | entitled no, potentially overdue though |
| 12:15.25 | ginge | yeah, so where is the source ;) |
| 12:15.30 | swetland | see, exactly |
| 12:15.35 | ginge | :P |
| 12:15.42 | Marajin | shrugs. |
| 12:15.43 | ali1235 | haha you beat me to it ginge |
| 12:15.57 | ali1235 | because i was reading people complaining on /. |
| 12:16.20 | Marajin | Hey if this release is fairly reliable, I'm happy |
| 12:16.24 | ginge | yeah, I gave up after a while. /. is just a giant mon fest these days |
| 12:16.34 | ginge | s/mon/moan/ |
| 12:16.43 | Marajin | I've never followed /. |
| 12:17.01 | Marajin | I have friends that automatically filter the crap and then send me interesting URLs and quotes later ;) |
| 12:17.04 | swetland | I try to never read the comments. Sometimes morbid curiosity gets the better of me |
| 12:17.17 | ginge | swetland: I know what you mean |
| 12:18.07 | ginge | closes slashdot tab |
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| 12:26.33 | ginge | lol. just found a copy of BeOS 4 in my desk |
| 12:26.42 | ginge | starts vmware |
| 12:30.50 | Marajin | Hey, let's not be silly ;) |
| 12:31.14 | ginge | hey, I purchased beos back in the day :) |
| 12:31.27 | ali1235 | why? |
| 12:32.13 | ginge | because it was reducd to £5 |
| 12:39.44 | dcordes | hey |
| 12:39.56 | dcordes | ginge: that's just great with X, in which image did you try? |
| 12:39.56 | Marajin | 'lo dcordes |
| 12:39.59 | dcordes | lolo |
| 12:40.15 | ginge | .25 |
| 12:40.32 | ginge | erm I mean gizard |
| 12:41.18 | dcordes | do applications show? |
| 12:41.28 | dcordes | or only bare Xfbdev? |
| 12:43.51 | ginge | Xfbdev |
| 12:44.04 | ali1235 | use "startx" |
| 12:44.08 | ali1235 | you get matchbox |
| 12:44.13 | ginge | ahh, that will beit |
| 12:44.28 | ali1235 | you'll probably have to edit /usr/bin/startx with your custom opts tho |
| 12:44.48 | ali1235 | or maybe you can just put them in env var |
| 12:45.11 | dcordes | ginge: I'm asking because in the moko and x11 images it started, but only sometimes |
| 12:45.23 | dcordes | and sometimes lead to an underscore on black screen |
| 12:45.31 | dcordes | or drew only half way |
| 12:45.40 | ginge | dcordes: allloc more ram, it stops the half draw problem |
| 12:46.04 | dcordes | ok, so what's the msm_fbsize you use?= |
| 12:46.25 | ginge | dunno, my computer at home must have gone into suspen |
| 12:46.42 | ginge | just take the current calculated value, and add some :) |
| 12:46.53 | ginge | about half as much again. I just guessed |
| 12:47.13 | dcordes | alright thx |
| 12:50.27 | ginge | hmm got to go to a crisis meeting. Laters! |
| 12:50.56 | dcordes | we are behind the schedule meltdown? good luck :) |
| 12:51.52 | Marajin | dcordes: I think it might be the "We just had 3 devs and a project lead quit on the spot" crisis |
| 12:52.06 | dcordes | lol |
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| 13:51.20 | Marajin | wb ginge |
| 13:51.27 | ginge | yo |
| 13:51.46 | Marajin | man we need to fix SD >.< |
| 13:52.10 | ginge | well, what are you waiting for? |
| 13:52.18 | ali1235 | i had a thought about that |
| 13:52.26 | ginge | ... |
| 13:52.36 | ali1235 | is it possible, if you had FB settings wrong, that FB was corrupting the SD registers or something like that? |
| 13:53.08 | ginge | ali1235: no, pretty sure it is something to do with interrupts |
| 13:53.53 | ginge | the sd interrupt is triggering too early, which is being compensated with a delay. The delay isntalways right based on cpu load and the block its reading. |
| 13:54.07 | ali1235 | thats weird |
| 13:54.21 | ginge | So my best guess without looking at it is that triggering the irq on rising is wrong |
| 13:54.30 | ali1235 | why would the interrupt trigger too early? that would be a hardware bug? |
| 13:54.44 | ginge | from what I can tell the sd code is full of hardware bug workarounds |
| 13:55.04 | ali1235 | so it's a general purpose irq? and you have to select whether it's rising/falling/both? |
| 13:55.12 | ginge | yeah |
| 13:55.22 | ali1235 | hmm |
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| 13:55.28 | ginge | and we just dont know |
| 13:55.36 | ali1235 | well there's only 3 possible choices... |
| 13:55.48 | ali1235 | can't you probe it? |
| 13:56.02 | ginge | each makes it break in a different way |
| 13:56.14 | ginge | no haret crashes |
| 13:56.22 | ali1235 | i meant with an oscilloscope |
| 13:56.42 | ginge | I could probably jtag it, but I quite like having a phone that is in one piece |
| 13:57.01 | ginge | also I dont think my scpope is fast enough to do it without jtag and slowing it ll down |
| 13:57.34 | ali1235 | are you sure it is even an interrupt line? |
| 13:58.07 | ginge | yes |
| 13:58.24 | ali1235 | i mean as opposed to like a "ready" indicator |
| 13:58.44 | ginge | yes, I can see it in the VIC registers |
| 14:01.21 | ginge | bob, send me the WSDL for *spit* CRM integration please |
| 14:01.28 | ginge | wrong window |
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| 14:20.29 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | hi, is there an other way to ssh to the blueangel then via usbnet? this module isnt afailable in Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 |
| 14:20.49 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | *available |
| 14:24.44 | ali1235 | cdc_ether |
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| 14:25.24 | ali1235 | Bastiaan_Wakkie: usbnet is device side. host side uses cdc_ether. |
| 14:25.39 | ali1235 | it works on hardy, im using it. |
| 14:26.01 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ahaa |
| 14:26.13 | ali1235 | actually it should work without doing anything |
| 14:26.25 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | so how do you connect? or where is the manual to do this? |
| 14:26.40 | ali1235 | you plug in the device |
| 14:26.42 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | well just ssh to it you mean? |
| 14:26.56 | ali1235 | then you give an ip to the interface |
| 14:26.59 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | listens |
| 14:27.10 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | what interface? |
| 14:27.13 | ali1235 | usb0 |
| 14:27.31 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | interface does not excist |
| 14:28.00 | ali1235 | ok so check dmesg and look what went wrong |
| 14:28.58 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | booting into qtopia now |
| 14:29.17 | ali1235 | dmesg on your computer! |
| 14:29.46 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | Yes I know ;-)...... I see this usb 5-8.3: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
| 14:29.55 | ali1235 | so it's in serial mode |
| 14:30.18 | ali1235 | qtopia has a networking config page |
| 14:30.29 | ali1235 | set the mode to "usb network device" or whatever it says |
| 14:34.17 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | cant find it really |
| 14:34.48 | ali1235 | wellit should be there somewhere unless you have an old version... |
| 14:35.42 | ali1235 | anyway, your problem isn't to do with ubuntu, it's the phone |
| 14:35.44 | ali1235 | or rather, the software on the phone... |
| 14:36.34 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | grr lost my screen on the blue angel... it is white |
| 14:36.56 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I have to redo the boot |
| 14:37.31 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | the phone went in standby mode |
| 14:41.26 | ali1235 | when you get it working you will see this in the phone's dmesg: |
| 14:41.50 | ali1235 | usb0: full speed config #1: 100 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet |
| 14:42.21 | ali1235 | and on the computer: |
| 14:42.24 | ali1235 | [26768.232623] usb0: register 'cdc_ether' at usb-0000:00:02.0-2, CDC Ethernet Device, b2:d2:50:9a:b8:a3 |
| 14:42.51 | ali1235 | but you wont see any of that unless the cable is plugged i think |
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| 15:17.49 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | the phone went in standby mode |
| 15:20.16 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | so back... I disconnect the usb... the reconnect and see the register cdc_subnet |
| 15:22.38 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | in setting I do only see an internet where I can fins ethernet settings |
| 15:22.49 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ali1235: is that what you meant? |
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| 15:39.35 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ali1235: where is the phones dmesg? not in /var/log at least |
| 15:41.47 | ali1235 | it's shown by typing "dmesg" |
| 15:42.28 | ali1235 | not sure exactly where the usb setting is, maybe im mixing it up with something else |
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| 15:53.00 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | the only thing dmesg shows are inal messages |
| 15:53.22 | ali1235 | well cdc_subnet sounds like a start |
| 15:53.33 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | hehe :) |
| 15:53.49 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | (you must know I am trying this for over a year) |
| 15:54.47 | ali1235 | so what's on ifconfig -a? |
| 15:57.14 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I see usb0 on ip 192.168.1.206 |
| 15:57.29 | ali1235 | on on host pc? |
| 15:58.14 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | no on the phone |
| 15:58.25 | ali1235 | ok what about on the host pc though? |
| 16:00.33 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I see usb now.. i did : sudo ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.206 |
| 16:00.45 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | then ssh root@192.168.1.206 |
| 16:00.50 | ali1235 | wrong! give it a different ip to the other end |
| 16:00.58 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | got a rsa fingerprint |
| 16:01.05 | ali1235 | from localhost :) |
| 16:01.06 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | aaaah |
| 16:01.44 | ali1235 | now i expect you'll want to make configuration automatic when you plug it in, right? |
| 16:02.01 | ali1235 | you'll need to patch one of the ubuntu system files which contains a bug |
| 16:02.21 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | one sec.. I am still not in |
| 16:02.28 | ali1235 | oh? |
| 16:02.38 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | Permission denied, please try again. |
| 16:02.51 | ali1235 | well networking is up at least |
| 16:03.09 | ali1235 | i can't really help you with phone side as i dont have that phone |
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| 16:04.30 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | so i do an ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.206 for instance right? |
| 16:04.49 | ali1235 | er, no |
| 16:04.59 | ali1235 | 192.168.1.207 would be a good choice |
| 16:05.55 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ok and then ssh to that ip of the phone one? |
| 16:06.01 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | phone one right? |
| 16:06.03 | ali1235 | the phone one |
| 16:06.06 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ok |
| 16:06.18 | ali1235 | if it still doesnt work, check the netmask of the phone |
| 16:06.29 | ali1235 | try ping before ssh in any case |
| 16:06.51 | ali1235 | you'll also have to check that network range doesnt conflict with another range ie your lan |
| 16:07.20 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | no ping result |
| 16:07.33 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I was just ssh-ing to localhost ;-) |
| 16:08.32 | ali1235 | what ip range does your lan use? |
| 16:10.27 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | 192.168.0.0/24 |
| 16:10.36 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | and 10.33.0.0/24 |
| 16:10.43 | ali1235 | so it doesnt conflict... |
| 16:10.59 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | i do not think so |
| 16:11.11 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | i got the ethernet online now |
| 16:11.19 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | (on the phone) |
| 16:11.26 | ali1235 | ??? |
| 16:12.05 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | somewhere at network servvices I needed to set the ip address |
| 16:12.35 | ali1235 | ok |
| 16:12.57 | ali1235 | well like i said, can;t really help with the phone side... i dont know how your software is supposed to be configured |
| 16:13.15 | ali1235 | but for setting up the connection automatically on PC side you need to follow these instructions |
| 16:13.23 | ali1235 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others |
| 16:13.44 | ali1235 | particularly the bit about "ubuntu issues" - the comment that it has been fixed was not true in my case |
| 16:13.52 | ali1235 | >.< |
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| 16:18.24 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | Brouwser crash! ;-) |
| 16:18.32 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | what was the link again? |
| 16:18.43 | ali1235 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Debian.2C_Ubuntu_and_others |
| 16:18.54 | ali1235 | i suggest using the first snippet, it's simpler |
| 16:19.04 | ali1235 | but you'll have to change the ips to match what you need |
| 16:19.12 | ali1235 | then look at the "ubuntu issues" section |
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| 16:20.18 | ali1235 | i know it says it's fixed, but it wasn;t fixed on my machine, and i run updates |
| 16:25.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dcordes/ginge: does touchscreen work then? |
| 16:27.33 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c_: not fully. It still has the strange x/y/pressure interaction that needs to be calibrated out |
| 16:27.50 | ginge | or compensated for with a crazy algorithm |
| 16:28.05 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you have set_param in the kernel, I first tried 0-1 thinking it was float, but it's integer so I don't know what it should be |
| 16:28.29 | ginge | not sure what you mean |
| 16:28.31 | tmzt_mp900c_ | there are modules in tslib that should be able to handle those calibrations |
| 16:28.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | in tsc2003.c there should be a set_input_param or something like that for ABS_PRESSURE |
| 16:28.55 | ginge | hopefully. I don't know if we can work that into android, but I hope so |
| 16:29.15 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I think we need a serperate event device for android |
| 16:29.16 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c_: not too sure without looking. |
| 16:29.42 | tmzt_mp900c_ | event0 and event1 for android, the rest for X with hal to control whats used, or -mouse tslib,,device= for now |
| 16:29.44 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c_: I think you are right, anf I did create a patch that does add a new "raw" input device for X |
| 16:29.57 | ginge | we discussed doing thata while ago. |
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| 16:30.02 | ginge | iir it was only about 3 lines long |
| 16:30.26 | ginge | cya laters all |
| 16:30.44 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I also though we could add an on-screen keyboard to fbdev using the raw or android input with a seperate input device |
| 16:30.51 | tmzt_mp900c_ | fbcon |
| 16:31.06 | ginge | yeah, don't see why not |
| 16:31.11 | ginge | cya! |
| 16:36.02 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | where do I do ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 up on the phone or on the laptop? |
| 16:36.43 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you just need different IP's on phone and laptop on the same subnet |
| 16:36.55 | ali1235 | you dont do it anywhere |
| 16:37.09 | ali1235 | why would you give it an ip from your lan network? |
| 16:37.14 | tmzt_mp900c_ | on a subnet you aren't using for anything else (like your LAN) |
| 16:37.57 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | yes networking just blows my mind |
| 16:38.13 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I think this is the case though... |
| 16:38.23 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what is you LAN/wireless IP address on your laptop? |
| 16:38.37 | ali1235 | he already told us :) |
| 16:38.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | didn't see it in the logs |
| 16:39.05 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | 192.168.121.x |
| 16:39.19 | ali1235 | :o |
| 16:39.24 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | so 192.168.0.x is save |
| 16:39.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | so what's wrong with 0.x, ali1235? |
| 16:39.27 | ali1235 | that's not what you said before :( |
| 16:39.57 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | (misunderstanding from my side I guess) |
| 16:40.14 | ali1235 | anyway |
| 16:40.21 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | so thats my lan connection... |
| 16:40.26 | ali1235 | you do not need to manually ifconfig the interface at all |
| 16:40.30 | tmzt_mp900c_ | PC: ifconfig 192.168.0.200 |
| 16:40.38 | tmzt_mp900c_ | Bastiaan_Wakkie: ifconfig 192.168.0.201 |
| 16:40.44 | tmzt_mp900c_ | Bastiaan_Wakkie: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.201 |
| 16:40.57 | tmzt_mp900c_ | yeah, but what does he need to make that work |
| 16:41.09 | ali1235 | he needs to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:41.16 | ali1235 | and add a section for usb0 |
| 16:41.22 | tmzt_mp900c_ | NetworkManager will attempt to make it the default route |
| 16:41.46 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that will only work if it can bring it up when he plugs it in, which doesn't really work anymore |
| 16:41.46 | ali1235 | also, since his phone defaults to 192.168.1.206 he should not use an IP in 192.168.0.0/24 anyway |
| 16:42.00 | ali1235 | only reason it doesnt work is because of a bug |
| 16:42.09 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I see |
| 16:42.10 | tmzt_mp900c_ | isn't it doing dhcp? |
| 16:42.13 | ali1235 | no |
| 16:42.45 | tmzt_mp900c_ | editing /etc/network/interfaces on the phone should work, but I though qtopia does that? |
| 16:42.51 | ali1235 | and the hotplug only happens when interface usb0 appears |
| 16:43.04 | ali1235 | not on the phone, on the computer! |
| 16:44.15 | tmzt_mp900c_ | to make the ssh work there would be only two commands, and deleting the entry in known_hosts since he had a second loopback conigured (essentially) |
| 16:44.23 | tmzt_mp900c_ | then it could be automated |
| 16:44.44 | ali1235 | ????? |
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| 16:44.51 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | enlighten me |
| 16:45.01 | ali1235 | or you could do it properly, then it would be 0 commands |
| 16:45.08 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | just tell me where what command |
| 16:45.16 | tmzt_mp900c_ | PHONE: ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.200 after plugged in |
| 16:45.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | PC: ifconfig usb0 192.168.1.201 after plugged in |
| 16:45.28 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ok |
| 16:45.36 | tmzt_mp900c_ | right click NetworkManager and disable network |
| 16:45.46 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | pc or phone? |
| 16:45.58 | tmzt_mp900c_ | NetworkManager on pc by the clock if you have it |
| 16:47.33 | ali1235 | why disable the network? |
| 16:48.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | it will try to setup a default route, at least with rndis |
| 16:48.20 | tmzt_mp900c_ | maybe not with usbnet |
| 16:48.36 | tmzt_mp900c_ | after the connection is up you can reenable nm or connect to your network |
| 16:48.51 | ali1235 | network manager does not see usb0 at all |
| 16:49.01 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok, then don't worry about that |
| 16:49.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | must only be rndis |
| 16:50.17 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I hate the keyboad in qutopia... it is slow so i end up with doubles a lot when I 'type' |
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| 16:50.41 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you don't have a keyboard or it doesn't work? |
| 16:50.59 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | it does partly |
| 16:51.16 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | for letter no problem... but i cant het to the numbers |
| 16:52.21 | tmzt_mp900c_ | does ssh work now? |
| 16:53.31 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | when i type 168 i get 11688 |
| 16:53.45 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | and backspace does 2x backspace |
| 16:53.57 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | very intresting |
| 16:58.14 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | ok ssh to 1.200? |
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| 16:59.58 | tmzt_mp900c_ | yes |
| 17:00.12 | tmzt_mp900c_ | but you need to delete .ssh/known_hosts or just the line it complains about |
| 17:00.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | on pc |
| 17:00.30 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | anyway host unknown |
| 17:00.37 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I cant ping to it |
| 17:00.51 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ifconfig usb0 on both and see what it says |
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| 17:01.22 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | pc gives 1.201 |
| 17:01.31 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | phone 1.200 |
| 17:01.38 | tmzt_mp900c_ | both RUNNING? |
| 17:02.07 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | yes ... pc dmesg gives: usb0: register 'cdc_subset' at usb-0000:00:1d.7-8.1, Linux Device, 16:1f:c2:61:17:7c |
| 17:03.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | no, do both ifconfig usb0's show RUNNING |
| 17:03.15 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | but the phone dmesg doesnt give any usefull info |
| 17:03.27 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | oh one sec |
| 17:03.56 | tmzt_mp900c_ | sorry, UP and RUNNING |
| 17:04.13 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | pc yes |
| 17:04.54 | tmzt_mp900c_ | also, run route on pc |
| 17:04.57 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | phone yes |
| 17:05.27 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | pc: route --> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 usb0 |
| 17:08.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that's all thats in route? |
| 17:08.44 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | no |
| 17:08.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ON THE PHONE, ssh 192.168.1.200 |
| 17:10.51 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | terminal hangs... i get only eeeeeeee's |
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| 17:16.03 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | i hard reboot the phone now |
| 17:16.38 | tmzt_mp900c_ | meaning you reboot, not erase everything in windows, right? |
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| 17:17.31 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | removed the batterie |
| 17:17.33 | tetsuo\0 | hello |
| 17:18.06 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
| 17:18.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | null? |
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| 17:19.00 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | well all qutopia settings are on the sd card... so not real changes there |
| 17:31.12 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I AM IN!! |
| 17:31.16 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | WHOOHOO |
| 17:31.32 | tmzt_mp900c_ | nice |
| 17:31.54 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | i used a different keyboad this time |
| 17:32.15 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | left the standard 0.202 and created a 0.200 on the pc |
| 17:32.25 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | then ssh to 0.202 |
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| 17:32.40 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
| 17:32.49 | tetsuo\0 | guys, is there a way to tell windows mobile to never consume more than X amps when on battery. I have this really flawed battery that is making my Qtek 9100 hang all the time |
| 17:32.51 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what does it say in /etc/network/interfaces on the phone? |
| 17:33.05 | tmzt_mp900c_ | underclock? |
| 17:33.05 | herriojr | how much did the new android sdk break the kaiser? |
| 17:34.55 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | <tmzt_mp900c_: no clock in the interfaces of the phone |
| 17:35.03 | exco | tetsuo\0: not that I know of - I'd suggest getting a new battery |
| 17:35.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | sorry, that was for tstsuonull |
| 17:35.55 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you have usb0 in /etc/network/interfaces and what is the address? |
| 17:36.04 | tetsuo\0 | exco: :( |
| 17:36.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | tetsuo\0: I was suggesting to get one of the overclock programs and set it to underclock when on battery |
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| 17:37.53 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: oh I missed that, that seems doable |
| 17:38.38 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what device is qtek9100 anyway? |
| 17:41.12 | tetsuo\0 | universal |
| 17:41.31 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I though keyboard worked on uni, is it just qtopia? |
| 17:42.30 | tetsuo\0 | no idea, haven't tried anything yet in this device, it still has WM5 |
| 17:43.12 | tmzt_mp900c_ | sorry, I was confusing two things again |
| 17:43.56 | tmzt_mp900c_ | A BA that was having problems with keyboard/qtopia, and UNI since they are similar |
| 17:45.05 | tetsuo\0 | oh |
| 17:52.33 | exco | tetsuo\0: http://handy.shop.ebay.de/items/_W0QQLHQ5fPrefLocZ2QQ_sopZ2?_nkw=(dopod+900%2CE-Plus+PDA+IV%2CGrundig+GR980%2CI-Mate+JASJAR%2CO2+XDA+Exec+%2COrange+SPV+M5000%2CQtek+9000%2CSFR+v1640%2CT-Mobile+MDA+Pro%2CVodafone+VPA+IV%2CVodafone+v1640)+battery+-charger&_sacat=38329&_fromfsb=0&_trksid=m270.l1313 |
| 17:53.26 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | somehow my microphone is 0 and I cant set teh value... any tips? |
| 17:57.02 | tmzt_mp900c_ | on what |
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| 17:58.46 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | on my phone of course ;-) |
| 17:59.09 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | when I call the other side does not hear me... (blueangel) |
| 17:59.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | alsamixer? |
| 17:59.27 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I cant start it |
| 17:59.33 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | gives vt100 errors |
| 17:59.39 | tmzt_mp900c_ | /etc/init.d/alsa-* start |
| 17:59.47 | tmzt_mp900c_ | export TERM=linux |
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| 18:03.36 | tetsuo\0 | exco: wow, very cheap |
| 18:04.04 | ellisway | hi all |
| 18:07.08 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | /etc/init.d/alsa-* start just restores the settings |
| 18:07.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | did the term thing work? |
| 18:07.33 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you have ssh, just use alsamixer on the pc |
| 18:07.41 | tmzt_mp900c_ | from the pc |
| 18:07.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | then alsa stop should save the settings |
| 18:09.11 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | export TERM=linux should work? I get the same message |
| 18:09.25 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I tried it on both pc and phone |
| 18:10.06 | tmzt_mp900c_ | TERM=xterm if you are on the pc, ssh into phone |
| 18:10.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what is the message? |
| 18:10.50 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | Error opening terminal: xterm. |
| 18:11.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | try TERM=vt100 in ssh |
| 18:11.23 | tmzt_mp900c_ | it looks like termcaps/terminfo is missing |
| 18:11.25 | ltxda | hello peeps and poops |
| 18:11.27 | ltxda | :) |
| 18:11.41 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | Error opening terminal: vt100. :) |
| 18:12.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that's bad |
| 18:13.53 | tmzt_mp900c_ | do you have a qtopia mixer? |
| 18:15.06 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | There is a sound mixer in the phone settings |
| 18:15.18 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | but I cannot move the sliders |
| 18:16.07 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what do you have in lsmod |grep snd |
| 18:16.18 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | call options > call volume .. I can move the speaker volume but not the microphone |
| 18:18.21 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | tmzt_mp900c I get like 7 hits |
| 18:18.53 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | like sound_soc_blueangel |
| 18:19.04 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | like snd_soc_blueangel |
| 18:19.43 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | I am off .. i will log in from home |
| 18:19.52 | Bastiaan_Wakkie | thx for the holp so far |
| 18:20.00 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ok |
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| 18:26.44 | tetsuo\0 | wow, qtopia is a breeze |
| 18:27.15 | tetsuo\0 | to get running I mean |
| 18:38.52 | tmzt_mp900c_ | does phone work? |
| 18:48.26 | tetsuo\0 | looks like it did, I rebooted cause the interface is too laggy |
| 18:48.44 | tmzt_mp900c_ | can you see if microphone works |
| 18:48.48 | tetsuo\0 | gonna try openmoko |
| 18:49.01 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: ok |
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| 18:53.12 | dwaradzyn | hi, anyone succeed ripping off system image from android 0.9 sdk ? |
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| 18:55.05 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: sorry, it just hung saying "no network" |
| 18:57.28 | BabelO | tetsuo\0: on first boot of qtopia you need to wait a little, because it create an index file ... then after it is quite speed compared to other intereface |
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| 19:12.38 | tmzt_mp900c_ | dcordes: does ts work at all now? |
| 19:13.45 | dcordes | I didn't patch the tsc2003.c yet |
| 19:13.48 | dcordes | in 2.6.25 tree |
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| 19:14.15 | tmzt_mp900c_ | did you try the one from 2.6.24, I thought you said they were the same? |
| 19:15.30 | wasup | so i heard there is new version of android? |
| 19:15.54 | tmzt_mp900c_ | android-developers.blogspot.com |
| 19:16.00 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: either I diffed against a non clean file or ginge added something |
| 19:16.13 | wasup | cool thanks |
| 19:16.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | git pull */tsc2003.c ? |
| 19:16.23 | dcordes | but I think it was me |
| 19:16.37 | tmzt_mp900c_ | git checkout, sorry |
| 19:16.41 | dcordes | I will fetch it manualyl from the .24 |
| 19:16.47 | dcordes | won't work, I'm in googel 25 |
| 19:17.19 | tmzt_mp900c_ | ginge had it working, but said it wasn't calibrated right, or the modules were wrong |
| 19:17.44 | wasup | did ginge ever make a working keyboard for the titan? |
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| 19:18.04 | tmzt_mp900c_ | don't know, thought he had kaiser |
| 19:18.23 | dcordes | wasup: I don't know if he continued with it. you mask ask him. since he doesn't have the device, he will need you for testing to improve |
| 19:18.25 | wasup | yeah but i was working with him awhile back.. he had got a few keys working on the titan |
| 19:18.26 | dcordes | I guess |
| 19:18.39 | tmzt_mp900c_ | no more camera flashing? |
| 19:18.40 | wasup | ok |
| 19:18.50 | dcordes | so if nobody else has helped testin, you will be uptodate |
| 19:19.11 | tmzt_mp900c_ | when I did the q, I just but printable chars in all the places in the kernel map and figured them all out that way |
| 19:19.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | but that took a while |
| 19:19.25 | wasup | k... how long has he beeen offline for? |
| 19:19.39 | dcordes | ~seen ginge |
| 19:19.43 | apt | ginge <n=ginge@host81-149-155-58.in-addr.btopenworld.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 2h 48m 32s ago, saying: 'cya!'. |
| 19:20.02 | wasup | me and him were working on one... and the "qwer" keys worked |
| 19:20.06 | tmzt_mp900c_ | not saying "look out for that chair"? |
| 19:20.39 | wasup | without camera flash... |
| 19:21.03 | ali1235 | wasup: if you have a couple of keys working the rest should be easy? where's your existing code? |
| 19:21.10 | wasup | ok... so whats the status of the new realease on other device? |
| 19:21.16 | wasup | um... i have it... just a sec |
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| 19:22.19 | wasup | it wasnt me coding it though... i was testing it and giving him the gpio data |
| 19:22.51 | tmzt_mp900c_ | if some keys work, than some gpios are right and you should be able to add other keys to the map |
| 19:23.01 | wasup | i dont know how to code... you think you can fix it? |
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| 19:23.33 | wasup | he said he was gonna set it up in excel or something but key map was different then normal.. |
| 19:23.39 | wasup | idk |
| 19:24.09 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: ok patched |
| 19:24.35 | ali1235 | wasup: do you have a kernel + toolchain set up so you can test patches? |
| 19:24.53 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: did ginge say which fbsize he used while I was absent? |
| 19:25.11 | tmzt_mp900c_ | just added one screen size to the number |
| 19:25.14 | tmzt_mp900c_ | it's in the logs |
| 19:25.16 | wasup | um... like can i boot android? |
| 19:25.20 | wasup | yeah |
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| 19:25.43 | dcordes | ola BabelO |
| 19:25.45 | tmzt_mp900c_ | android is different, keyboard is the same |
| 19:25.52 | ali1235 | he said to add 0xb000 to the existing size i think |
| 19:25.56 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c_: what would that be in the end? |
| 19:26.07 | BabelO | hi dcordes |
| 19:26.08 | wasup | oh i thought he meant to test patches for the new android |
| 19:26.09 | tmzt_mp900c_ | but there's onscreen keyboard in the android code |
| 19:26.34 | ali1235 | wasup: no i mean for keyboard patches |
| 19:26.39 | wasup | yeah |
| 19:26.41 | wasup | i can |
| 19:26.51 | tmzt_mp900c_ | you just need a toolchain, like codesourcery one or whatever |
| 19:26.51 | ali1235 | ok what kernel tree are you using now? |
| 19:26.54 | tmzt_mp900c_ | and kernel source |
| 19:26.55 | wasup | anyone know ginge's server address? |
| 19:27.11 | ali1235 | headfuzz.co.uk? |
| 19:27.14 | wasup | it was on his server as zImage-titan |
| 19:27.18 | wasup | yeah that one |
| 19:27.29 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.39 | dcordes | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android |
| 19:27.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | unless you want motors or something |
| 19:27.52 | dcordes | but you can't list the files in the directory, must know the filename |
| 19:27.55 | dcordes | :) |
| 19:28.01 | wasup | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/zImage-titan |
| 19:28.03 | dcordes | digital open source servos |
| 19:28.09 | wasup | i remember.. ;) |
| 19:28.17 | ali1235 | yeah but no source for it :) |
| 19:28.27 | wasup | wait... |
| 19:28.31 | wasup | let me see. |
| 19:28.36 | tmzt_mp900c_ | until they add bluetooth to reprap and you can print from phones |
| 19:28.38 | tetsuo\0 | ok, I installed the openmoko-linux.cab, but I can't see where to boot the image |
| 19:28.49 | dcordes | wasup: did he only gave you the built kernel images or also patches? |
| 19:29.00 | tmzt_mp900c_ | does the cab work now? |
| 19:29.39 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I think theres supposed to be a start menu thing, or you have a file browser? |
| 19:30.16 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: I found the boot .exe, it was in /Program Files |
| 19:30.30 | tmzt_mp900c_ | is it haret or something else? |
| 19:30.37 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what sd card do you have in there? |
| 19:30.46 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: it's Openmoko-Linux.exe |
| 19:31.00 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: 1gb micro Sd with adapter |
| 19:31.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what's on it? |
| 19:31.37 | wasup | only the kernel images he built.:( |
| 19:31.52 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: what you mean? |
| 19:32.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | some of those .exe's erase things on the second partition |
| 19:32.23 | ali1235 | wasup: he'll be back tomorrow i should think. or later tonight probably. |
| 19:32.38 | ali1235 | i'll pester him to put up the patch anyway |
| 19:32.59 | tmzt_mp900c_ | patch for what, new android? |
| 19:33.03 | tetsuo\0 | tmzt_mp900c_: oh....hmm, I don't think I have important stuff |
| 19:33.06 | wasup | ok... i'm still trying to find it... |
| 19:34.46 | ali1235 | no there is no patch for new android yet |
| 19:34.52 | Marajin | sigh |
| 19:35.07 | Marajin | well that was a lot of wasted soldering |
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| 19:43.06 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: can you give me the number for fbsize? |
| 19:45.42 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I don't know what he used, just that it has to be more than 320*240*4 |
| 19:45.49 | tmzt_mp900c_ | so add that to that number |
| 19:48.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | 320*240*5 in base 16 |
| 19:48.57 | tmzt_mp900c_ | 0x12c00 |
| 19:49.03 | tmzt_mp900c_ | google search: 320*240*5 in base 16 |
| 19:51.27 | tetsuo\0 | lol, I got linux console |
| 19:51.37 | tmzt_mp900c_ | startx |
| 19:51.38 | tetsuo\0 | it can't mount the tmp fs |
| 19:51.52 | tmzt_mp900c_ | mount -t tmpfs tmp /tmp |
| 19:51.54 | wasup | so when android is actually released on a phone... how long do you all think it will take for it to be made usable on all devices? |
| 19:52.07 | tetsuo\0 | what's more important, it can't mount /sdcard |
| 19:52.11 | wasup | well not all... but like the phones that come with wm6 |
| 19:52.18 | ali1235 | when android is released on a phone we wont have anything we dont have now |
| 19:52.35 | tetsuo\0 | having the linux console on the phone is real cool anyway :D |
| 19:52.46 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that may be true, but the new qemu isn't fully msm compatible is it? |
| 19:53.32 | ali1235 | sure it doesn't emulate the radio |
| 19:54.02 | tmzt_mp900c_ | anyway, I think they are going to 1.0 before release |
| 19:54.20 | tmzt_mp900c_ | there's a roadmap now at that link |
| 19:55.13 | tmzt_mp900c_ | code.google.com/p/android might have the new qemu source, haven't checked |
| 19:56.25 | ali1235 | anyway... point is having a real android phone wont make it any easier to write kernel drivers for different older models |
| 19:56.36 | ali1235 | and that is the problem... writing drivers for undocumented hardware |
| 19:56.40 | tmzt_mp900c_ | true, but maybe diamond/raph |
| 19:57.12 | Marajin | The MSM devices'll do pretty well out of it but we're most of the way there in general anyway |
| 19:57.14 | tmzt_mp900c_ | of course, with the source it will be possible to make it work on armv5 |
| 19:58.15 | dwaradzyn | what about running android 0.9 on kaiser/polaris |
| 19:58.27 | Marajin | dwaradzyn: We're workin' on it, it boots on the vogue already. |
| 19:58.34 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I think dzo is working on it for vogue |
| 19:58.34 | Marajin | dwaradzyn: Though the ril changed so modem issues. |
| 19:59.00 | tmzt_mp900c_ | we need to get a sane touchscreen for android probably |
| 19:59.17 | Marajin | tmzt_mp900c_: He already released an SD bootable version for the vogue yeah. It'd probably work on the kaiser if only the SD card didn't dma error |
| 19:59.26 | Marajin | and the TS works fine in android nowadays I think |
| 19:59.49 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I know, but the ts is different so we need a way to make it work on both |
| 19:59.54 | tmzt_mp900c_ | with the same zImage |
| 20:00.05 | Marajin | well you'd just modulize it I guess |
| 20:00.16 | Marajin | ts-android and ts-X |
| 20:00.24 | tmzt_mp900c_ | or at least two possible patches for the kernel source to build one or the other |
| 20:00.38 | Marajin | though after release android may understand standard touchscreen stuff rather than the way it works now |
| 20:00.39 | tmzt_mp900c_ | tsc2003-android? |
| 20:00.49 | tmzt_mp900c_ | then it wouldn't be built in |
| 20:01.06 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I would think so, it only needs screen coordinates for qemu unless they changed that |
| 20:01.49 | Marajin | well yeah, that's what it's doing at the moment in the M5 release and I guess that 0.9 would be the same since we're ripping it from the emu |
| 20:02.03 | swetland | what resolution is the display on vogue? |
| 20:02.14 | tmzt_mp900c_ | 320x240 |
| 20:02.18 | Marajin | swetland: 320x240 |
| 20:02.34 | tmzt_mp900c_ | but the kernel gives us absolute coords between 0-32k, I think |
| 20:02.46 | tmzt_mp900c_ | on real hw |
| 20:03.20 | wasup | so anyone have the link to the new android initrd? |
| 20:03.22 | dwaradzyn | Marajin: thanks for the info, i'm trying to boot 0.9 myself, not sure if there is any work needed on extracted /system and /data |
| 20:03.56 | Marajin | dwaradzyn: It won't boot from SD and it's too big to initrd |
| 20:04.15 | wasup | oh... so how do i go about trying to boot it? |
| 20:04.15 | Marajin | dwaradzyn: We could probably make an initrd but eh |
| 20:04.23 | Marajin | wasup: On the kaiser? you can't (yet) |
| 20:04.31 | wasup | nope the titan. :) |
| 20:04.33 | wasup | lol |
| 20:04.38 | wasup | not possible at all |
| 20:04.39 | Marajin | does the titan have SD? |
| 20:04.42 | wasup | yes |
| 20:04.43 | swetland | the new init stuff is a lot scriptier and almost all of the hardcoded stuff is gone. should be a little easier to deal with other filesystem setups (not using yaffs, etc, etc) |
| 20:04.55 | wasup | the titan does |
| 20:04.55 | Marajin | is it working? :P |
| 20:04.55 | dwaradzyn | Marajin: why won't it boot, is it the sd dma problem? |
| 20:05.06 | wasup | well i dont have the files |
| 20:05.10 | Marajin | dwaradzyn: undoubtedly |
| 20:05.22 | wasup | anyone know where i can get them? |
| 20:05.23 | Marajin | wasup: Nah I mean, does the titan's SD card read under linux? |
| 20:05.38 | wasup | yeah.. im pretty sure |
| 20:05.50 | Marajin | ok.. do you still have your zImage? |
| 20:06.02 | wasup | its recognized when it boots... i was booting android from sd |
| 20:06.05 | wasup | yes. |
| 20:07.17 | Marajin | ah well just take the way you WERE booting android from SD and replace the initrd.gz and system.gz files with these ones: http://marajin.w-ww.org/initrd.gz http://marajin.w-ww.org/system.gz |
| 20:07.31 | wasup | k.. ill try right now. |
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| 20:07.58 | Marajin | Make sure you don't have any other 'system' file on your SD card |
| 20:08.02 | Marajin | just the system.gz |
| 20:08.24 | Marajin | cause it extracts system.gz to system so you don't have to copy a big file over |
| 20:09.08 | wasup | ok |
| 20:11.04 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: 384000 ? |
| 20:12.08 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: do you know how to remove the pan from msm_fb? |
| 20:12.14 | dcordes_ | as ginge did? |
| 20:13.41 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I don't think it's necessary |
| 20:13.58 | tmzt_mp900c_ | if it's not called |
| 20:14.48 | tmzt_mp900c_ | 384000 is hex? |
| 20:15.22 | dcordes_ | I just did the calculation as you said |
| 20:15.24 | dcordes_ | no hex |
| 20:16.03 | tmzt_mp900c_ | 0x5dc00 |
| 20:17.22 | wasup | now its failing to mount the sd |
| 20:17.24 | wasup | hmmm. |
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| 20:52.24 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: ok set, I wonder if the pan is important. |
| 20:52.39 | dcordes_ | especially now that the other size value is set |
| 20:53.09 | dcordes_ | do you think ginge uses bigger fbsize+pan=on or bigger fbsize+pan=off? |
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| 21:00.50 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I just don't think anything calls pan except android and psplash |
| 21:01.36 | BabelO | Marajin: is it the extracted stuff the above link ? i ve to try on Artemis and Blueangel, maybe i can get ts working without kernel change |
| 21:02.35 | tmzt_mp900c_ | on pxa? |
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| 21:04.33 | BabelO | tmzt_mp900c_: on pxa and on omap |
| 21:05.01 | dcordes_ | BabelO: I wonder if you will get the touchscreen w/o kernel patches because android doesn't work with raw coordinates |
| 21:05.38 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes that is why i ask before to try :) i love my qtopia's imlage like this |
| 21:05.54 | BabelO | maybe swetland can answer ? :) |
| 21:06.58 | Marajin | BabelO: Those lniks arefor the SD boot prepared vogue release |
| 21:07.11 | Marajin | s/lniks/links/ |
| 21:07.34 | BabelO | Marajin: ok |
| 21:08.27 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: so I can ignore it and just set fb_size=0x5dc00 and get vyres *2 removed? |
| 21:08.43 | dcordes_ | Marajin: you have the extracted rootfs, no? |
| 21:08.52 | dcordes_ | or raw .tar.gz ball rather |
| 21:09.10 | Marajin | dcordes_: No? |
| 21:09.14 | dcordes_ | maybe BabelO could try with it? |
| 21:09.38 | dcordes_ | Marajin: didn't you mount the emulator yaffs2 to mtd? |
| 21:10.13 | BabelO | dcordes_: yes i can try with it, just need to replace with my kernel |
| 21:10.14 | Marajin | yah but I didn't tarball it and I rebooted the system. I'd have to reboot, mount, tarball, etc. |
| 21:10.41 | Marajin | and kinda busy right now.. |
| 21:10.46 | Marajin | waves soldering iron. |
| 21:11.02 | BabelO | reboot time |
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| 21:22.24 | dcordes_ | BabelO: I would make you a tarball out of the yaffs2 file but I have no yaffs2 in my kernel |
| 21:22.49 | BabelO | dcordes_: don't do it now , i cant test now |
| 21:23.14 | dwaradzyn | dcordes_: it is easy to extract /system from adb shell |
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| 21:26.49 | dcordes_ | dwaradzyn: I would need to setup the google qemu and all |
| 21:27.40 | ali1235 | all you have to do is dl and unpack it... |
| 21:27.59 | ali1235 | then run tools/emulator |
| 21:29.00 | dcordes_ | it doesn't work can't find sdl blabla although I have the whole sdl headers installed on that machine |
| 21:29.35 | ali1235 | what distro? |
| 21:29.38 | dwaradzyn | dcordes_: system.tar.bz2 is 27,5 mb, i can give it to you |
| 21:30.49 | dcordes_ | dwaradzyn: it's for BabelO, not me |
| 21:33.02 | dwaradzyn | anyway i'm putting it on mediafire, it will be there in 15 minutes |
| 21:36.27 | Marajin_ | mmm, pizzaa! |
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| 21:48.24 | dwaradzyn | \/system extracted from 0.9 android is on http://www.mediafire.com/?zd0qgclvemz |
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| 21:58.21 | Marajin_ | yo dcordes_ |
| 21:58.35 | dcordes_ | yo Marajin |
| 21:58.44 | Marajin | did you explain what was bad with the Eula? |
| 21:59.16 | dcordes_ | it says you mustn't restribute provided contents |
| 21:59.30 | Marajin | I don't think google actually care |
| 21:59.40 | Marajin | but yeah it's a standard enough clause |
| 21:59.48 | Marajin | I think really as long as you don't say YOU wrote it, it's ok |
| 22:00.01 | Marajin | though technically if people download from you they skip the eula |
| 22:00.46 | dcordes_ | nobody downloads from me anyway |
| 22:00.56 | Marajin | heh |
| 22:00.56 | Marajin | true |
| 22:00.59 | Marajin | dzo's problem :) |
| 22:01.17 | dcordes_ | but from the linuxtogo server. I don't think the people hosting it like to spread content that violates some bullshit |
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| 22:09.21 | Marajin | dcordes_: Yeah, better to be safe from legal recourse than sorry |
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| 22:14.11 | Marajin | dcordes_: Looks like the g-squad have got dzo! |
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| 22:29.03 | patoche | hi all, linuxtogo.org is down ? |
| 22:29.24 | Marajin | patoche: I don't think so,I'll check |
| 22:30.01 | Marajin | patoche: Nope you're right, it's timing out |
| 22:30.24 | patoche | Marajin: thx :( |
| 22:32.43 | patoche | i would like to know if i can fetch sources of haret modified for the vogue somewhere |
| 22:33.24 | Marajin | I dind't know the vogue used a modified haret |
| 22:34.03 | patoche | that's what i understand from the web site, perhaps i'm wrong |
| 22:34.15 | patoche | it's about mmu |
| 22:34.22 | Marajin | oh for debugging it maybe |
| 22:34.25 | Marajin | I dunno |
| 22:34.49 | patoche | http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/ |
| 22:34.52 | Marajin | Oooh, I remember, he said that it didn't work |
| 22:35.01 | Marajin | yeah, didn't he find out it did really later on though? |
| 22:36.32 | patoche | he said "It seemed to hang when I turned off the MMU so I rewrote the bootloader (haret) to set up some identity pages and boot with MMU on." |
| 22:36.47 | Marajin | I thought he said somewhere that actually itdoesn't hang though |
| 22:37.21 | Marajin | if you need the source for it, I suppose you need talk to dzo himself |
| 22:37.27 | Marajin | you only missed him by 15 minutes or so |
| 22:37.51 | patoche | ah ok :( thx Marajin |
| 22:38.34 | tmzt_mp900c_ | that would be the same for all msm though, right? |
| 22:38.49 | Marajin | tmzt_mp900c_: Nah not always, I know kaisr uses standard haret |
| 22:39.18 | tmzt_mp900c_ | the lettered ones from last month on ~koconnor should work? |
| 22:40.11 | tmzt_mp900c_ | does kaiser identify a machine when it boots, or generic arm6? |
| 22:40.21 | dcordes_ | dzo usese a ptched haret for the vogue? |
| 22:40.41 | Marajin | dcordes_: Well I thought he used a standard one, but his first post DOES say he modified it to keep MMU on |
| 22:42.14 | tmzt_mp900c_ | but he modified for msm in general and that's in haret now, I thought |
| 22:42.24 | Marajin | could be |
| 22:42.55 | patoche | his changed are on cvs ? |
| 22:43.10 | Marajin | patoche: That's the guess |
| 22:43.26 | Marajin | The last source I grabbed works on kaiser |
| 22:45.01 | patoche | okay, in fact i'm trying to make haret work on diamond but it seems it hang on mmu_trampoline and i have cvs source :( |
| 22:45.03 | dcordes_ | tmzt_mp900c_: I will try the larger fbsize along with the disables vyres *2 now on current htc-msm kernel (can't try on 2.6.25 because msm_fb.c was left out in the patch I have) |
| 22:45.48 | dcordes_ | patoche: did you read Espenfjo's approaches to make it work? |
| 22:46.45 | patoche | dcordes_: no |
| 22:47.11 | dcordes_ | patoche: check last day's logs, grep for espenfjo |
| 22:47.15 | Espenfjo | :> |
| 22:47.22 | Espenfjo | Im not sure if it hangs on mmu_trampoline or not |
| 22:47.42 | Espenfjo | I think it procedes to the preloader, but cant for some odd reason print to the FB |
| 22:47.48 | Espenfjo | So it might actually boot linux |
| 22:47.55 | Espenfjo | But i am not sure |
| 22:48.52 | dcordes_ | although I don't have a diamond, regarding what I have read about it, I would say the kernel fb code is your friend. because on kaiser with the stock code it looked very similar and back then we fixed it with kernel patches |
| 22:49.32 | Espenfjo | I have looked into patching the linux code also, trying both kaiser and athena code, but its all the same |
| 22:49.41 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: who is the person that suggested vsfb? |
| 22:49.49 | Espenfjo | cant remember |
| 22:49.55 | dcordes_ | I had some very interesting ideas |
| 22:49.56 | Espenfjo | Ive tried vsfb, but no luck |
| 22:49.57 | patoche | Espenfjo: i have added Sleep and init FB before "go go go" and i can write debugging info on fb but last message i can read is before the call to mmu_trampoline... |
| 22:50.16 | patoche | Espenfjo: but i have to force addr of FB on haret code |
| 22:50.20 | dcordes_ | what about the sram vs vram stuff? |
| 22:50.25 | Espenfjo | dunno |
| 22:50.38 | dcordes_ | that's important. there was some difference on the diamond about sram |
| 22:50.49 | dcordes_ | difference on diamond vs htc-msm/vogue/google |
| 22:51.04 | Espenfjo | patoche: yeah. mmu_trampoline moves to another part of the memory, so it might be something there (src/wince/asmstuff.S) |
| 22:51.49 | dcordes_ | isn't that a problem in the fb driver? |
| 22:51.57 | Espenfjo | mebe |
| 22:52.26 | Espenfjo | haret puts the preloader and the linux kernel on some memory pages, goes into some ASM code, points the start address of the preloader code) |
| 22:52.26 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: you should figure out what that sram stuff is. dzo said it's important |
| 22:52.33 | Espenfjo | hmm, ok |
| 22:52.40 | dcordes_ | patoche: do you know something about it? |
| 22:52.48 | Espenfjo | I dont know anything about vram or sram, but i can search into it :> |
| 22:52.51 | patoche | dcordes_: no |
| 22:53.02 | Espenfjo | Just have to finish a small .NET program for my device first :) |
| 22:53.10 | dcordes_ | yuck |
| 22:53.17 | Espenfjo | Ive kinda come as far as i can on haret/linux now |
| 22:53.39 | Espenfjo | I dont know anything about HW, just a little c++ and nothing linux programming |
| 22:53.55 | dcordes_ | patoche: did you check http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondMemoryMap ? |
| 22:53.57 | tmzt_mp900c_ | would you know anything about writting a tcp to serial proxy for WM? |
| 22:54.10 | Espenfjo | But i like fiddeling around, and sharing info, so mebe someone can find my info usefull |
| 22:54.45 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: I know nothing about programming. sure you already gained attention with your research |
| 22:54.54 | Espenfjo | :P |
| 22:55.06 | dcordes_ | if only you could ask dzo about diamond fb |
| 22:55.09 | dcordes_ | he had some intersting info |
| 22:55.30 | Espenfjo | ~seen dzo |
| 22:55.33 | apt | dzo <n=dzo@121.98.128.127> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 14h 11m 48s ago, saying: 'similar size, 64M I think.'. |
| 22:55.40 | dcordes_ | ah wait he posted something on the xda form or so |
| 22:55.49 | tmzt_mp900c_ | Espenfjo: would you know anything about writting a tcp to serial proxy for WM? |
| 22:55.56 | Espenfjo | no |
| 22:56.27 | tmzt_mp900c_ | what do you need to do .net programming on wm, visual studio? |
| 22:56.35 | Espenfjo | yeah |
| 22:56.38 | Espenfjo | for example |
| 22:56.41 | Marajin | tmzt_mp900c_: Yep that's all usually |
| 22:56.43 | Espenfjo | or monodevelop ;P |
| 22:56.59 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: man sorry, I confused dzo with cr2 |
| 22:56.59 | Marajin | or something like sharp-develop I think |
| 22:57.00 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I didn't think of it before, but I could probably start with haret code |
| 22:57.09 | Espenfjo | ~seen cr2 |
| 22:57.10 | apt | cr2 <n=konversa@crpl6.physik.uni-wuppertal.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #htc-linux, 20d 14m 9s ago, saying: 'i'm always wondering why people use 'long'.'. |
| 22:57.13 | Espenfjo | oh |
| 22:57.19 | Espenfjo | 20 days? :\ |
| 22:57.37 | Marajin | yep |
| 22:57.47 | Marajin | he ran away because people ask him too many questions ;) |
| 22:57.53 | Espenfjo | haha |
| 22:57.58 | Marajin | actually I dunno why he's gone, but hey :P |
| 22:58.03 | tmzt_mp900c_ | I would really like to talk with the real modem AT interpreter instead of the stupid proxy |
| 23:07.41 | Espenfjo | http://espen.mrfjo.org/htcdiamond/ - This is the files i have been using this far |
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| 23:27.03 | dcordes_ | wI wonder wtf happened tot my sd. booting angstrom from ext2 on it worked like a charm until I formated |
| 23:28.13 | Marajin | dcordes_: Must be the way you hold your gob. |
| 23:35.02 | dcordes_ | I never got the mmc error "timed out waiting for DATAEND" |
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| 23:46.04 | holycow | hi! |
| 23:47.08 | dcordes_ | bows in front of holy cow |
| 23:47.28 | patoche | if i remenber well the last message from haret is "jumping to kernel...." right ? |
| 23:47.56 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: ping |
| 23:48.10 | Espenfjo | wot |
| 23:48.25 | Marajin | 'lo holycow |
| 23:48.48 | Espenfjo | patoche: that should be the last text to the FB from the prealoder, yeah |
| 23:48.55 | Espenfjo | Never got that far tho |
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| 23:49.04 | Espenfjo | FB doesnt seem to update after loading the preloader |
| 23:49.15 | Espenfjo | preloader/mmu_trampoline/asmstuff.S |