| 00:06.04 | ginge | ugh. the rtc accumulates errors in a delta value when the kaiser sleeps. |
| 00:06.53 | ginge | night all. |
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| 00:09.49 | Espenfjo | Darn.. the diamond is evil.. :\ its going to take my beauty sleep today |
| 00:10.19 | ginge | android phone in 4 weeks? |
| 00:10.23 | ginge | http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/20080813800/android-here-in-four-weeks.html |
| 00:11.31 | ginge | good night. for real this time ;) |
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| 00:19.46 | Espenfjo | Any reasons the FB wont update correctly all the times? Sometimes it progresses to one point, sometimes a bit further etc. |
| 00:19.57 | Espenfjo | from haret |
| 00:20.14 | Espenfjo | Output() in the logs shows that haret doesnt die |
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| 00:49.29 | Espenfjo | Is there something like an wince-emulator for linux? |
| 00:50.15 | ali1234 | qemu-arm maybe? depends what you want to emulate |
| 00:50.38 | dcordes | Espenfjo: are you messing with diamond boot? |
| 00:51.14 | Espenfjo | yeah |
| 00:51.47 | Espenfjo | Hate hacking on haret without bluetooth or activesync :) Have to connect it to the usb-mass-storage all the time |
| 00:52.15 | dcordes | are you aware of the memory mapping? |
| 00:54.22 | Espenfjo | yeah |
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| 00:55.34 | Espenfjo | My main concern now is harets framebuffer, it is quite random how much it will print. Making it hard to debug the rest |
| 00:57.50 | dcordes | so the wince screen gets redrawn partly after boot? |
| 00:58.32 | Espenfjo | yeah, sometimes. sometimes it gets blacked out and FB_PRINT prints some lines |
| 00:58.51 | Espenfjo | The furthest ive got is to the PSR part of the preloader, but most common is just disabling hardware |
| 00:58.55 | Espenfjo | all info in the fb |
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| 01:11.33 | dcordes | Espenfjo: did you try uploading the kernel to a different place? |
| 01:12.12 | Espenfjo | Nah, not yet, it doesnt come that far |
| 01:12.35 | Espenfjo | haret should print information to the FB quite much further then its doing now |
| 01:14.47 | Marajin | dcordes: I thought yo went to bed anyway? |
| 01:16.50 | dcordes | did I say that |
| 01:17.12 | Marajin | dcordes: You said night and logged off. |
| 01:17.32 | Marajin | and ginge called you a wuss |
| 01:17.33 | Marajin | nods. |
| 01:17.44 | Marajin | oh.. |
| 01:17.59 | Marajin | dcordes: Could you remove the sound mention from the readme file? |
| 01:18.22 | Marajin | dcordes: Yes ginge can make it make vague noises but he predicts a minimum of weeks beforeit's tolerably functional |
| 01:18.54 | Marajin | Basically all he's proved is where the dsp is and that we can nudge it |
| 01:19.34 | dcordes | in the news? |
| 01:19.52 | Marajin | I guess so. Anywhere you've publically written it basically |
| 01:20.11 | Marajin | He doesn't want people expecting to play mp3s and have it work because it's not happening yet |
| 01:21.05 | dcordes | you are right |
| 01:21.32 | Marajin | well they'll read it and start asking for the zImage with working sound.. |
| 01:21.39 | Marajin | which means weeks ofpestering |
| 01:21.54 | Marajin | and them struggling to understand why they can't use sound yet |
| 01:23.49 | dcordes | it's ginges work anyway if he doesn't want to announce it I will sure take it out |
| 01:25.12 | Marajin | heh, I think he has too much stress at the moment and just wants to be sure of peace :) |
| 01:25.21 | Marajin | We all know that feeling huh? |
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| 01:26.46 | Espenfjo | Making haret detect the diamond as a kaiser instead of generic arm 6 didnt help much either :) |
| 01:27.31 | Espenfjo | Still random framebuffer |
| 01:28.00 | dcordes | Espenfjo: by using a younger build of haret? |
| 01:28.31 | Espenfjo | no, by adding diamond to the machlist |
| 01:28.43 | Espenfjo | Setting it to be a msm7200 |
| 01:28.51 | Espenfjo | 7200 and 7500 is handeled the same |
| 01:31.02 | Espenfjo | framebuffer is cleared (black screen) and this fb_printf(&bm->pd->fbi, "HaRET boot\nShutting down hardware\n"); |
| 01:31.13 | Espenfjo | Sometimes it goes further |
| 01:31.37 | Espenfjo | Logs in haretlog.txt goes furthers, so im certain that the code is being run |
| 01:31.41 | Espenfjo | just the FB isnt updated |
| 01:34.26 | dcordes | did you try a cooked rom? |
| 01:35.05 | dcordes | Marajin: anything in the readme to be changed from your side? |
| 01:35.06 | Espenfjo | yeah, using swiftbl5.5 |
| 01:36.50 | Espenfjo | Anyways.. Ive posted my findings in the thread over at xda-dev |
| 01:38.43 | Espenfjo | So i hope someone can pursue things from there since im unable to get any further with the unstable FB |
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| 01:38.48 | dcordes | Espenfjo: you've got a link? |
| 01:38.58 | Espenfjo | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2521997 |
| 01:39.08 | Espenfjo | no FB, no debug, no linux :) |
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| 01:44.23 | dcordes | Espenfjo: maybe fb size is just wrong? |
| 01:44.25 | dcordes | just a thought |
| 01:44.29 | dcordes | Marajin: ? |
| 01:45.08 | Espenfjo | hmm, maybe |
| 01:45.13 | Espenfjo | Ill look into it tomorrow |
| 01:45.26 | Espenfjo | 0345 in the morning here now :) |
| 01:46.15 | dcordes | same here |
| 01:46.19 | dcordes | time to get some sleep |
| 01:46.29 | Espenfjo | :) |
| 01:46.30 | Espenfjo | yeah |
| 01:46.31 | Espenfjo | nn |
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| 06:48.09 | kiozen | hehe Marajin, got fun with garmin :P |
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| 07:51.26 | BoaR | morning |
| 07:52.19 | BoaR | anyone c an helps me with magician ? |
| 07:57.27 | get | dunno whts this |
| 07:57.32 | get | maybe i can |
| 07:57.51 | BoaR | i am looking for ph5 in the best way :-) |
| 07:57.55 | BoaR | so |
| 07:58.02 | BoaR | how can i compile my own os .. ? |
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| 08:05.34 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 08:22.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: morning, I commited the new track drawing stuff for M |
| 08:26.58 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :) i ll test it on sunday |
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| 08:44.59 | BoaR | for M? |
| 08:45.02 | BoaR | what is M ? |
| 08:45.21 | kiozen | BoaR: http://www.qlandkarte.org |
| 08:46.03 | BoaR | ahh :-) |
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| 09:35.03 | Marajin | allo aalo aalo |
| 09:35.12 | Marajin | kiozen: yeah definitely "fun" with the garmin |
| 09:35.54 | kiozen | garmin == worst software ever |
| 09:36.09 | Marajin | kiozen: So much fun I feel the need to dance bare foot on hot coals while pushing 6 inch nails through my eyelids and fellating a male orangutan with dubious personal hygene! |
| 09:37.16 | kiozen | ok, would you please mind doing this out of our scope |
| 09:37.34 | Marajin | kiozen: You're too sensitive :P |
| 09:37.43 | Marajin | Point is, yes I hate it |
| 09:37.57 | kiozen | I just don't like ugly things ... like garmin |
| 09:38.22 | Marajin | it is ugly, and user unfriendly |
| 09:38.42 | kiozen | I have spent way too much time with garmin and their f... formats |
| 09:39.05 | Marajin | mapsource and the converting andtransfering the maps thing really annoyed me |
| 09:39.45 | kiozen | the best part is that the resulting gmapsupp is structured as a FAT filesystem |
| 09:40.01 | Marajin | heh :p |
| 09:40.06 | kiozen | btw this is not due to DRM stuff |
| 09:40.45 | kiozen | in fact there are only a few bytes encrypted |
| 09:40.58 | Marajin | I guess customising just what map data you want to store is technically nice but the way they do it is infuriatingly slow |
| 09:41.16 | Marajin | I'm quite happy just to throw 2 GB of data on an SD card and be done with it though ya know? |
| 09:41.38 | kiozen | It's because of old devices with limited memory |
| 09:41.47 | Marajin | sure |
| 09:41.56 | Marajin | but devices don't have limited memory anymore |
| 09:42.09 | Marajin | several gigs of flash storage costs only a fewpounds retail |
| 09:42.21 | Marajin | i.e. "getwith the times Garmin" |
| 09:44.26 | kiozen | yes, just dump the whole lot on a 2GB SD, that should be fine, except the 2GB limitation of the gmapsupp file, because of signed 32bit index |
| 09:44.45 | kiozen | and there is a tile limit of somwhat 2000 tiles |
| 09:46.53 | Marajin | 2GB though is pretty much all of europe |
| 09:47.20 | kiozen | it get's a problem if you want a topograhic map too |
| 09:47.26 | Marajin | maybe |
| 09:47.35 | Marajin | but it's not like they couldn't update the container format |
| 09:48.19 | kiozen | for that they have to write new decent software, repackaging the old one is more profitable |
| 09:49.04 | kiozen | think the only partly real new stuff is the colorado and oregon series |
| 09:58.24 | Marajin | heh |
| 09:58.40 | Marajin | Well I've only seen the nuevi and the symbian software |
| 09:58.45 | Marajin | which are both twitch worthy |
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| 11:13.29 | tgreer | o/ |
| 11:20.01 | Marajin | 'sup tgreer |
| 11:20.27 | tgreer | usual, in uni for an exam resit, u? |
| 11:20.41 | Marajin | Just had my gas meter replaced |
| 11:20.42 | Marajin | woo |
| 11:20.49 | Marajin | free gas till the dial clicks back to 0! |
| 11:20.50 | Marajin | :D |
| 11:21.01 | tgreer | lol |
| 11:21.05 | tgreer | win |
| 11:21.09 | Marajin | yeah |
| 11:22.01 | Marajin | ya know olympic judo always looks a little like attempted sodomy I find |
| 11:22.51 | tgreer | ROFL! |
| 11:23.18 | Marajin | 100kg man trying to visciously bugger one another! |
| 11:23.21 | Marajin | *men |
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| 12:54.05 | Espenfjo | This diamond really gives me a headache |
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| 12:54.28 | Marajin | Espenfjo: I'll swap you for a kaiser or a hermes ;) |
| 12:55.02 | Espenfjo | Nah :P |
| 13:22.49 | Espenfjo | This was weird.. the more i write to haretlog.txt the more the FB will output |
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| 13:39.14 | dcordes | Espenfjo: what do you specify where kernel is uploaded and fb location? |
| 13:39.41 | dcordes | just curious |
| 13:40.48 | Espenfjo | haret detects fb location automatically, and its the same offset as on the xda-wiki, so i havent bothered |
| 13:46.39 | dcordes | Espenfjo: did you try the haret draw commands? |
| 13:46.48 | Espenfjo | no? |
| 13:47.51 | dcordes | also fbduringboot |
| 13:47.54 | dcordes | option |
| 13:48.11 | Espenfjo | yeah, have seen that, dont think that will help any |
| 13:48.13 | dcordes | I'm not sure on the fb testing commands. check help |
| 13:48.18 | dcordes | just try |
| 13:48.31 | dcordes | fb something |
| 13:48.52 | dcordes | I used those test commands while Kevin2 helped me with the kaiser |
| 13:49.49 | BoaR | hello |
| 13:50.02 | BoaR | is here anyone, with linux on magician ? |
| 14:07.40 | Espenfjo | It doesnt seem like there is any fb commands in my haret |
| 14:09.57 | Espenfjo | tho it might be something in the aticmds.cpp |
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| 14:56.48 | Espenfjo | The diamond is ati, right? |
| 14:56.59 | Espenfjo | Why doesnt it have ace_ddi? |
| 14:57.11 | Marajin | it has an ATi chip in it |
| 14:57.42 | Espenfjo | yeah, but it doesnt seem like haret can find it |
| 14:58.25 | Marajin | is it in the rom? |
| 14:58.29 | Marajin | it may not need it/use it |
| 14:58.35 | Marajin | the functions may be in another dll |
| 14:58.40 | Espenfjo | hmm, ok |
| 14:58.53 | Espenfjo | ill try downloading and extracting a rom, search for the functions |
| 14:59.00 | Espenfjo | maybe i can rewrite haret to take use of it |
| 14:59.26 | Marajin | yeah |
| 14:59.32 | Marajin | sorry I'm distracted by pointer hell at the moment |
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| 16:41.29 | Dvyjones | Anyone got linux to boot on the pharos? |
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| 17:14.23 | Marajin | Dvyjones: I'm not sure anyone's tried, I'm guessing it's a rarer model |
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| 17:18.38 | tgreer | hey people |
| 17:21.01 | SanMehat | morning |
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| 17:44.06 | dcordes_ | Espenfjo: still around? |
| 17:44.13 | Espenfjo | yeah |
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| 18:13.49 | Marajin | yo dcordes_ |
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| 18:31.43 | ginge | dcordes: dcordes_: ping |
| 18:32.26 | dcordes_ | pong |
| 18:32.57 | ginge | hi. I read the updated readme last night and I was hoping to ask a favour of you |
| 18:33.24 | dcordes_ | I already removed sound and "minor" changes |
| 18:33.30 | ginge | awesome :) |
| 18:33.33 | ginge | thanks |
| 18:33.58 | ginge | its just that its not audio thats working, its the earcouple that I got sound from. |
| 18:34.23 | dcordes_ | the andset or earphones? |
| 18:34.28 | dcordes_ | handset |
| 18:34.59 | ginge | handset, yeah. its too quiet to know if it is working as it should be, but its progress |
| 18:35.17 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 18:42.14 | Marajin | ginge: I collared him last night and had him remove it so you didn't get mobbed by people |
| 18:42.26 | ginge | Marajin: thanks |
| 18:43.08 | Marajin | ginge: Well, I know what it's like to get mobbed by those people ;) I wouldn't wish it on anyone :P |
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| 18:44.04 | ginge | like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPlDP8vlrRs |
| 18:44.16 | ginge | no offense to anyone :) |
| 18:45.22 | Marajin | ginge: We used to have a standing thing on intermud3 if anyone used a coffeemud lib http://marajin.w-ww.org/images/i3peeps/AnyoneUsingACoffeeMUDlib.jpg |
| 18:45.40 | dcordes_ | sweet |
| 18:46.57 | ginge | holy wtf is that? |
| 18:47.52 | ginge | thats gotta be shopped |
| 18:48.13 | dcordes_ | bbl |
| 18:55.26 | Marajin | ginge: I don't know and I don't care, it made its point to the nubs :P |
| 18:55.34 | Marajin | ginge: Intermud3 is a delightful place. |
| 18:56.00 | Marajin | ginge: Like the time Duuk told a nub that his problem was that the flux capacitor was overloaded and he had to flush the rf buffers |
| 18:56.06 | Marajin | ginge: And got him to rm -rf * |
| 18:57.29 | Marajin | we also had chmod 000 .* |
| 19:01.13 | exco | so not nice :-) |
| 19:02.46 | ginge | Marajin: really not nice :) I like it |
| 19:03.44 | Marajin | :D |
| 19:03.57 | Marajin | ginge: Then again, dcordes rapid exit after the link is telling ;) |
| 19:04.10 | Marajin | it WAS a few years ago |
| 19:04.16 | Marajin | dcordes would be about the right age... ;p |
| 19:04.27 | ginge | I hope we didnt offend him :) too much |
| 19:04.45 | Marajin | he'll bounce back |
| 19:04.51 | Marajin | he's german! |
| 19:05.35 | Marajin | ...bugger now I have to watch fawlty towers I think |
| 19:05.55 | ginge | heh. well you started it |
| 19:06.11 | exco | I took a nice pic today... http://www.flickr.com/photos/29230816@N06/2763523412/sizes/m/ ;-) |
| 19:06.33 | ginge | eww |
| 19:06.38 | Marajin | ginge: I'm perfectly fine! |
| 19:06.53 | exco | final result of car vs. bike |
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| 19:07.08 | ginge | looks at the bacon on his plate |
| 19:07.12 | Marajin | yeah in the epic batle of car vs bike, I choose "Tank" |
| 19:07.13 | Marajin | ;) |
| 19:07.24 | Marajin | Das Maus, in a battle of car vs bike I want to be driving das maus |
| 19:07.26 | exco | :-P |
| 19:07.26 | ginge | exco: you ok then? |
| 19:07.52 | exco | I only had to stay in hospital for ~2.5 days... |
| 19:08.01 | ginge | oinly |
| 19:08.06 | Marajin | And if you're wondering what the maus is, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panzer_VIII_Maus |
| 19:08.11 | Marajin | heh |
| 19:08.20 | Marajin | exco: I'd have run away from the hospital by the .5 |
| 19:08.21 | Marajin | well.. |
| 19:08.22 | Marajin | limped |
| 19:08.27 | Marajin | crawled possibly |
| 19:08.28 | Marajin | but still |
| 19:08.44 | exco | Marajin: during operation... I couldn't |
| 19:09.06 | Marajin | believe me they'd need a lot of straps and drugs to have stopped me ;) |
| 19:09.36 | ginge | Marajin: i think we should prove that by experiment |
| 19:09.42 | exco | I got some good ones :-) but I couldn't enjoy it for too long |
| 19:09.44 | Marajin | ginge: It's been tried, trust me |
| 19:09.51 | ginge | Marajin: aww :( |
| 19:09.58 | ginge | puts the gaffer tape away |
| 19:10.12 | Marajin | heh :P |
| 19:10.21 | Marajin | And I have the scars to prove it! |
| 19:11.39 | exco | girls dig scars |
| 19:11.48 | Marajin | heh |
| 19:11.55 | Marajin | it's never scored any points for me |
| 19:12.03 | Marajin | they think I'm accident prone or something |
| 19:14.02 | exco | not adventurous? |
| 19:14.12 | Marajin | nope |
| 19:14.25 | exco | what a shame |
| 19:14.36 | ginge | yeah, girls I know see it as either a flaw with you, or think you are a liability |
| 19:15.36 | exco | you seem to surround yourself with the wrong kind of girls |
| 19:16.17 | ginge | exco: maybe. The only type of girl I know that would be into that kind of thing are skanky girls |
| 19:16.22 | Marajin | Though the scars range from dog bites to blade cuts to burns to having someone try to ram a pen through my hand to healed stretchmarks |
| 19:16.22 | Marajin | so maybe they're right to think I'm accident prone :P |
| 19:17.02 | Marajin | ginge: Maybe exco likes skanky? :P |
| 19:17.12 | exco | :-( |
| 19:17.14 | ginge | Marajin: I think the motorbike confirms that ;) |
| 19:17.16 | Marajin | ginge: Be open minded! |
| 19:18.02 | exco | prone to accidents ... is really cool imo ... I mean you could be boring |
| 19:18.13 | Marajin | Or I could be insane |
| 19:18.23 | exco | that's fine with me |
| 19:18.30 | Marajin | heh :P |
| 19:18.46 | Marajin | I probably WAS sectionable during my teens frankly |
| 19:18.49 | ginge | I choose boring. I already had someone beat the crap out of my head with a baseball bat. I decided at that point I don't like interesting, and boring is fine by me |
| 19:19.20 | Marajin | ginge: Bah you wuss, you're supposed to just turn around and stare at them and they lose all confidence. |
| 19:19.30 | Marajin | 's what Idid when someone dropped a desk on my head. |
| 19:19.51 | Marajin | at least, I think I did, people said I did ;) |
| 19:19.57 | ginge | Marajin: its kinda difficult when your eye is hanging out :) |
| 19:19.59 | exco | well then they have a reason to think you're insane |
| 19:20.07 | Marajin | exco: Very true |
| 19:20.15 | Marajin | ginge: Ah the joy of going to hospital with your eye in a tissue |
| 19:20.24 | ginge | Marajin: in a carrier bag mate |
| 19:20.30 | exco | "stop staring at me like that" :-) |
| 19:20.33 | Marajin | you lost your eye? |
| 19:20.33 | ginge | lol |
| 19:20.44 | ginge | Marajin: no, mostly jest |
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| 19:21.12 | Marajin | was just gonna say ;) In a tissue is doable, I've done it, in a carrier bag.. well that's just trouble ;) |
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| 19:21.22 | ginge | Marajin: heh |
| 19:21.40 | ginge | Marajin: yeah. its at least back in the hole and titanium plated up |
| 19:21.41 | exco | If I listen to your stories - I've been pretty lucky so far |
| 19:21.56 | Marajin | exco: :D and we did it aaaall without riding a bike. |
| 19:22.00 | ginge | exco: dunno, that looks pretty nasty |
| 19:22.13 | SanMehat | ginge: re: |
| 19:22.21 | Marajin | ginge: Amazingly I have no bits of metal holding me together at all. |
| 19:22.29 | Marajin | All damage is surface only |
| 19:22.30 | ginge | hi SanMehat |
| 19:22.59 | SanMehat | ginge: how goes? |
| 19:23.15 | ginge | SanMehat: not too bad. How about yourself? |
| 19:23.29 | exco | well abrasions can be worse than a broken bone |
| 19:23.44 | Marajin | exco: I wouldn't know, I've never broken a bone :p |
| 19:23.48 | SanMehat | ginge: keeping busy with MMC :) |
| 19:24.14 | ginge | SanMehat: heh. Still no improvement on our chipset. I am still fighting IRQ triggering and the clock trees |
| 19:25.01 | ginge | SanMehat: documentation would be nice.... I am sure you know what I mean ;) |
| 19:25.28 | ginge | SanMehat: looking at your commits QC is teasing you with trickles of information |
| 19:25.48 | Marajin | Clearly aliens |
| 19:25.52 | Marajin | QC wouldn't do it |
| 19:26.23 | SanMehat | ginge: hahaha yeah... :) |
| 19:27.11 | SanMehat | ginge: the driver seems to be stable at this point |
| 19:27.43 | exco | bbl |
| 19:27.51 | Marajin | catcha exco |
| 19:27.53 | ginge | SanMehat: I still get DMA errors on short transfers with write, but I did have to put a delay in the irq handler to get it to even work |
| 19:27.58 | Marajin | exco_: Hope it heals up fast |
| 19:29.06 | ginge | SanMehat: so I think our guessing game of chipset driver implementation is a little, erm, crap |
| 19:29.26 | exco_ | thanks - I'm sure it will (the broken elbow is already fine again after 4 weeks and the shoulder will be as well) |
| 19:29.41 | ginge | exco_: take care man. |
| 19:30.00 | Marajin | exco_: And next time, don't try to kung-fu the car ok? |
| 19:30.15 | exco_ | no more biking (at least until I by a new one) |
| 19:30.34 | exco_ | Marajin: I honestly didn't ... I flew right by it |
| 19:30.49 | SanMehat | ginge: are you sure you got this change?: |
| 19:30.53 | SanMehat | commit c1b2a82655b0cbaa32ea2442f5b49fa2e50f0079 |
| 19:30.53 | SanMehat | Author: San Mehat <san@android.com> |
| 19:30.53 | SanMehat | Date: Mon Aug 4 15:07:44 2008 -0700 |
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| 19:31.01 | ginge | SanMehat: yeah |
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| 19:31.19 | SanMehat | wierd. |
| 19:31.20 | ginge | SanMehat: not only did you mail it to me, but I also merged in the latest tree |
| 19:31.27 | SanMehat | ok just making sure :) |
| 19:32.10 | ginge | SanMehat: there is definately some load related problem. If I scale the msmsdcc_irq delay value based on CPU load, I get quite a way into boot before it breaks :/ |
| 19:32.51 | SanMehat | ginge: hmmmm, can you email me a recent dmesg dump and i'll look at it again when i can? |
| 19:33.43 | ginge | SanMehat: I will try, it kind of kills the data connection when it dies. I guess I will need to write a bluetooth driver ;) |
| 19:34.04 | Marajin | ginge: Can't use your LED hack? :P |
| 19:34.20 | SanMehat | ginge: do you have a serial port that you can use our little 'FIQ' debugger on? |
| 19:34.23 | ginge | Marajin: yeah, I think I remember where I put the cables :) |
| 19:34.48 | ginge | SanMehat: unfortunately not. Yet something else that locks the a11 solid |
| 19:36.02 | ginge | SanMehat: must all be AMSS related. damn moving target APIs |
| 19:36.15 | SanMehat | ginge: yeah :| |
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| 20:08.55 | Marajin | ginge: Catching mock the week btw? |
| 20:09.55 | ginge | Marajin: ack. thanks :) |
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| 20:10.17 | Marajin | ginge: I love the fact I set the mac mini up for DVB.. timeshift ftw :P |
| 20:11.02 | Zoolooc | hi there |
| 20:11.08 | Marajin | yo Zoolooc |
| 20:12.16 | Zoolooc | Marajin: you could setup some arm9 or whatever non-x86 NAS-es for DVB recording (with supported USB-attached DVB receivers) ;-) |
| 20:12.41 | Marajin | Zoolooc: I could but the macmini wasn't doing anything |
| 20:12.46 | ginge | Zoolooc: that sounds like a nice idea |
| 20:12.59 | ginge | I wonder is my asus wlhdd would do it well enough |
| 20:13.02 | Zoolooc | so well done you put it at work |
| 20:13.12 | Marajin | yep |
| 20:14.49 | Zoolooc | well, a buffalo linkstation pro (arm9 at 400MHz, 128MB RAM does, with myth-backend, and I also think, with VDR (I so heard in the linkstation hacking community) |
| 20:15.27 | Zoolooc | such a pity the kaiser does not implement an USB host ;-) |
| 20:15.38 | Marajin | amazingly the OS X software is so bad that a Core duo 1.6 + 768MB struggles to deal with two streams |
| 20:15.40 | ginge | it does OTG doesn;t it? |
| 20:19.03 | Marajin | the really annoying thing is that technically from DVB-T it's just dumping the raw mpeg2 stream as far as I know |
| 20:19.20 | ginge | yeah, sounds about right |
| 20:19.37 | ginge | ask ali1234 about that. he wrote a strem parser etc |
| 20:19.47 | ginge | s/strem/stream/ |
| 20:20.20 | ali1234 | what? |
| 20:20.35 | ginge | what was that dvb things you did? |
| 20:20.43 | ali1234 | i installed mythtv |
| 20:20.47 | ali1234 | it worked |
| 20:20.57 | ginge | you know what I mean dumbass |
| 20:20.57 | ali1234 | then i realised tv sucks |
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| 20:21.27 | ali1234 | hmm well, that sucks if a mac mini can't record two streams |
| 20:21.35 | Marajin | REALLY bad software |
| 20:21.37 | ginge | could the wlhdd cope? |
| 20:21.46 | Marajin | and also the _only_ software available for OS X |
| 20:21.51 | ali1234 | remind me not to buy one. my athlon 1600 does it fine with mythtv, and mythtv is really horribly bloated. |
| 20:22.06 | Zoolooc | ginge: afaik, the msm4xx have OTG functionaity, might implement it, but the kaiser does not connect the otg ports (might have done it to the same connector, switchable by software, I guess) |
| 20:22.23 | ali1234 | wl-hdd could probably just about record one stream if you backported the driver to 2.4 kernel |
| 20:22.35 | Marajin | ali1234: It's the software for OS X, if I booted linux/windows on it it works just as fast as normal PC stuffs, but linux drivers for my tuner no existy |
| 20:22.48 | ginge | Zoolooc: hmm interesting. I might have to look at the USB driver and see if I can beat it into submission |
| 20:23.56 | ali1234 | why would i want to buy a mac mini and then run windows or linux on it when i could just buy an equivalent computer from dell for half the price? |
| 20:24.06 | Marajin | very true |
| 20:24.13 | ginge | ali1234: with Linux already on it too |
| 20:24.30 | Marajin | however I did not buy the mac mini |
| 20:24.34 | Marajin | it was simply given to me |
| 20:24.48 | ginge | Marajin: instills confidence ;) |
| 20:25.17 | Marajin | ginge: They got annoyed about the video card :P |
| 20:25.33 | ginge | Marajin: in what way? i assume its not good? |
| 20:25.42 | Marajin | ginge: Intel GMA950 ? |
| 20:25.48 | Marajin | The kaiser almost has better video ;) |
| 20:25.55 | ginge | err, oh dear |
| 20:27.05 | ali1234 | if the kaiser really has hardware support for opengl es, then it's way way way better than gma950 which can't even do dx7 according to wikipedia |
| 20:27.19 | Marajin | heh |
| 20:27.23 | Marajin | it can do OGL I think |
| 20:27.27 | Marajin | but it's pretty dodgy |
| 20:27.31 | ginge | dx7? naa |
| 20:27.43 | Marajin | and it's DX9 er... "compatible" |
| 20:28.26 | Marajin | basically it's useless at 3D for a desktop chipset though |
| 20:33.11 | ginge | ugh Lab Rats |
| 20:33.20 | Marajin | now that show is just blah |
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| 21:01.12 | herriojr | I officially love vmware |
| 21:01.19 | ginge | hmm. i counted 1 joke in that show |
| 21:01.26 | ginge | vmware is a pita |
| 21:01.37 | Marajin | vmware IS a PITA |
| 21:02.22 | ginge | I dont know how many times I have downlaoded and patched vmare-any-any but its too many times |
| 21:02.42 | ginge | and USB is still fubar |
| 21:04.58 | herriojr | heh, I guess you have gripes about it :) |
| 21:05.07 | ginge | I could go on |
| 21:05.07 | herriojr | I just started using it, so I don't have any yet :) |
| 21:05.20 | herriojr | I got sick of having to reboot between partitions |
| 21:05.26 | Marajin | You WILL herriojr, you WILL do :P |
| 21:06.56 | ginge | herriojr: are you using vmware on win32 or linux? |
| 21:07.34 | herriojr | for brew phones, I need to use windows drivers, so I'm running linux as the guest and win32 as the host |
| 21:07.57 | ginge | herriojr: its not too bad that way around |
| 21:09.58 | herriojr | good :) |
| 21:21.58 | Marajin | ginge: Found the fawlty towers at last ;) |
| 21:22.10 | ginge | Marajin: took you enough time :_ |
| 21:22.19 | Marajin | to download 4 gigs? |
| 21:22.33 | ginge | this is the 21st century man. |
| 21:22.48 | Marajin | public tracker? :P |
| 21:24.35 | Marajin | "Don't touch me I don't know where you've been!" |
| 21:25.03 | Marajin | "...My god you're ugly aren't you? I mean.. my god!" "I'll go get the doctor!" "You don't need a doctor, you need a plastic surgeon!" |
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| 21:50.12 | ginge | wb dcordes |
| 21:50.26 | dcordes | hi |
| 21:51.20 | ginge | i don't support you happen to remember roughly when I was going through the proc_comm tracing with marbalon do you? |
| 21:52.16 | dcordes | I will look |
| 21:52.43 | Marajin | The archives need to be searchable |
| 21:52.50 | ginge | Marajin: yeah, really |
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| 22:02.33 | herriojr | damn nokia drivers crashed my computer....and I forgot to reinstall windows mbr since I blew away my linux partition in favor of vmware |
| 22:02.49 | Marajin | mmm nokia bloaty windows apps |
| 22:02.49 | ginge | oops |
| 22:03.27 | herriojr | I wouldn't have to install it, but the only way to install on brew phones is through the wire |
| 22:03.29 | Marajin | I was disturbed at the state of the stuff for talking to the N95 |
| 22:03.38 | herriojr | I can't do over the air installs |
| 22:03.48 | dcordes | ginge: what exactly do you mean, going through it? |
| 22:03.49 | herriojr | I haven't had to deal with the N95 |
| 22:03.53 | ginge | wget http://purl.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/$log_timescale_req.html.gz |
| 22:03.59 | Marajin | AS and Outlook might actually have been smaller worryingly |
| 22:04.01 | ginge | argh |
| 22:04.06 | ginge | dcordes: damn you ;) |
| 22:04.10 | dcordes | ginge: 6th of august you were also talking about it |
| 22:04.29 | ginge | I lost that proc comm address he traced |
| 22:04.47 | dcordes | look at august 6th |
| 22:06.18 | ginge | 5th august. nice. thanks man :) |
| 22:07.43 | dcordes | If I wouldn't have downloaded the wrong logs first, I would have had it earlier |
| 22:08.07 | ginge | I just grabbed them all and grepped |
| 22:08.25 | dcordes | that's what I did |
| 22:08.26 | ginge | didnt find what I was looking for |
| 22:08.48 | ginge | he didnt actually say proc_comm tho, which as my search term |
| 22:08.59 | dcordes | so you're missing a proc_comm address? |
| 22:09.09 | dcordes | I greped ginge marbalon |
| 22:09.27 | ginge | I figured I am too verbose to see that particular conversation :) |
| 22:11.31 | dcordes | I still can't do anything with the beagleboard beacuse I lack a 9 pin connector |
| 22:16.04 | Marajin | man I have a garage full of 'em |
| 22:16.29 | dcordes | I have a d-sub 9 pin connector but not one for the board pins |
| 22:16.48 | Marajin | man you'd have a fieldday inmy garage I think |
| 22:17.06 | dcordes | got the dvi<->hdmi though |
| 22:17.11 | Marajin | woo |
| 22:17.14 | ginge | Marajin: right, i'm going to raid that |
| 22:17.23 | Marajin | ginge: Hah :p |
| 22:17.34 | Marajin | I have manymanymany connectors and cables |
| 22:17.55 | ginge | is marbalon kaiser/ |
| 22:18.00 | dcordes | yes |
| 22:18.14 | Marajin | all hail emperor marbalon! |
| 22:18.25 | ginge | heh |
| 22:19.10 | Marajin | woo pointerhell is defucked I think |
| 22:19.14 | Marajin | stares at the code. |
| 22:19.28 | herriojr | what code is this? |
| 22:19.30 | ginge | what you coding up that is in hell? |
| 22:19.59 | Marajin | Oh it's not htc-linux stuff, just getting free of pointer hell is worthy of celebration I think |
| 22:20.27 | herriojr | lol |
| 22:20.43 | dcordes | I must have one of those crappy connectors in some old device |
| 22:20.46 | Marajin | shakes his pointers at C# coders and makes them cry. |
| 22:21.04 | herriojr | I love pointers, you can do lots of crazy crap with them |
| 22:21.21 | Marajin | IN ways you can argue there's no actual need for pointers but.. :P |
| 22:21.22 | ginge | i wrote some c at work the other day that the c# had to debug in my absense. He was crying a my use of pointer arithmetic |
| 22:21.37 | herriojr | heh |
| 22:21.44 | Marajin | ginge: They do, it's excellent :D |
| 22:21.54 | Marajin | they're getting to the stage they don't really know what a pointer is now |
| 22:22.07 | ginge | he gave up trying to understand the doubly linked list code :) |
| 22:22.21 | Marajin | oh c'mon, double-linked lists aren't hard |
| 22:22.22 | ginge | he rang me up and asked that the ** was about |
| 22:22.24 | Marajin | students understand them |
| 22:22.26 | herriojr | yeah, most of my co-workers don't really understand pointers |
| 22:22.30 | herriojr | we're all fresh out of college |
| 22:22.49 | Marajin | I never went to college |
| 22:22.53 | Marajin | or university for that matter |
| 22:23.02 | Marajin | I did briefly go to english college |
| 22:23.04 | herriojr | not everyone does :) |
| 22:23.09 | ginge | Marajin: no, not hard at all, but if you never saw a pointer before and you are relying on google to learn c at the same time ... |
| 22:23.24 | Marajin | ginge: His google-fu is no good! |
| 22:24.12 | ginge | oh well, each to his own. C# makes me want to hang myself |
| 22:24.23 | herriojr | programming courses now-a-days is all about object-oriented, so they don't really care about the underlying structure all that much |
| 22:24.26 | Marajin | I don't mind it to be honest, I found it less annoying than java |
| 22:24.28 | Marajin | but heh |
| 22:24.37 | herriojr | *are |
| 22:24.40 | ginge | drilling a hole in your foot is less annoying than java |
| 22:24.52 | Marajin | ginge: I love you sometimes man, I really do ;) |
| 22:25.13 | ginge | grins |
| 22:25.33 | ali1234 | java is fun. i particularly like how you can unzip the jars, decompile the classes, modify them, and then recompile them. that is awesome. |
| 22:25.57 | ali1234 | i guess you can do the same with .net but i bet it is 100 times harder |
| 22:26.21 | ginge | c is fun. i particularly like how you can unzip the binary, decompile the source, modify them, and recompile them. that is awesome |
| 22:27.09 | ali1234 | yeah but you dont get C when you decompile it |
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| 22:27.20 | ginge | true, you get machine code |
| 22:27.27 | ali1234 | in java you get... java |
| 22:27.35 | ginge | you could use asm to c :) |
| 22:27.39 | ginge | if you are a sadist |
| 22:27.53 | ali1234 | you could but after it's been heavily optimised it probably wont make nice looking C |
| 22:28.05 | ginge | ali1234: its makes horrible c. might as well be asm |
| 22:30.04 | ali1234 | i can't decide why i prefer out of java and C# tbh, but i do think there's no point in using C for anything except writing operating systems and compilers and stuff |
| 22:30.33 | ginge | yeah. I do a lot of stuff in python |
| 22:31.31 | ali1234 | s/why/which/ |
| 22:31.57 | herriojr | I don't have the option to choose what I want to do my work :) |
| 22:32.14 | herriojr | I have to use whatever the phone OS allows us to write programs in :) |
| 22:32.30 | ali1234 | yeah these days that usually isn't C |
| 22:33.35 | ginge | there is lots of ISDN telephony code out there in c |
| 22:34.53 | herriojr | all brew phones we still write in C |
| 22:35.16 | herriojr | or rather, we still write our programs in C for BREW phones |
| 22:35.24 | dcordes | now I make one connector out of old atx button connectors |
| 22:35.24 | herriojr | that's a better wording :) |
| 22:40.13 | ginge | damn I need to get a hold of marbalon |
| 22:56.32 | dcordes | email him |
| 23:08.36 | ginge | Night all. early presentation tomorrow :( I hate explaining why we are behind schedule. |
| 23:25.38 | dcordes | ginge: night |
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