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00:00.18OpnSrc1have you guys used trackdroid ?
00:00.49OpnSrc1its a nice app installer for android. I've put that in my andorid-data.bin .
00:01.08gingewe are not amused with Android
00:01.27MarajinWe're amused, we're just not content to use it ;)
00:01.52gingedoens't use enough ncurses
00:01.59Marajindefinitely!
00:02.12dcordesOpnSrc1: yea the #android guys suggested that to herrio
00:03.07gingehave they said anything about a new sdk yet?
00:03.32gingeor another gui that doesnt suck
00:04.03OpnSrc1Ok, I don't know who herrio is. one of #htc-linux ? here...
00:04.14gingeyeah
00:04.15Marajinherriojr who appears on here yeah
00:05.40OpnSrc1gine: thats true but the kind of apps that are being developed is really good.
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00:10.09dcordesthey will freak about audio
00:10.21Marajinlet's not tell them!
00:10.24dcordeshrhrhr
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00:11.32dcordesdon't be that harsh with them, they don't know better.
00:11.41MarajinSo? :P
00:11.53uplinkedanyone here with experience using a bluetooth PAN from linux, mind helping me figure out what's wrong?
00:12.10uplinked[for data tethering, that is]
00:12.20dcordesmaybe they just don't know what they do is pointless because all sorts of apps are already present as open source software and that bloated guis are not useful on mobile phones
00:13.21dcordeswe really need the ncurses phone and pim app to cure that
00:14.29gingeMarajin: seriously dont tell them
00:14.43Marajinginge: Yeah it wasn't actually entirely joking ;)
00:15.03gingeMarajin: it aint ready and I don't need hassle :)
00:15.14Marajinginge: You love the abuse!
00:15.21dcordesginge: when is it done, when is it done?
00:15.31gingeheh
00:15.35ginger ang.txt
00:15.39Marajin~lart dcordes for begging
00:15.39aptblames dcordes for all the evil in the world for begging
00:16.15OpnSrc1is there any way I can increase the font size on angstrom ?
00:16.34gingeI just realised I have 40MB of images on the NAND and it still boots
00:16.53Marajinginge: Um so?
00:17.06gingeI thought you needed loads of free space to get it to boot
00:17.12Marajinnup..
00:17.33OpnSrc1zImage-2.6.25-pm
00:17.57OpnSrc1is git tree updated with the changes to get 2.6.25 ..?
00:18.02dcordes-zImage-pm uploaded to bootkit, it has code to turn on/off the display. in android, press power button and select turn off display.
00:18.16dcordes-Barry ginge Carter ported the htc-msm (2.6.24) to android-msm-2.6.25, there will be htc-msm-2.6.25 in linuxtogo git soon.
00:24.33gingeright, I just wrote a class driver for proc_comm. now I am going to leave the phone dumping incrementing data to the proc_comm while I sleep
00:26.56dcordesginge: tidiying up the todo/status list, it comes to my mind that the ts with the raw event patches and tslib (in the ts_test application) looks far more precise than in the android test app with the tsc2003.c in git.
00:27.02dcordesmaybe that's any interesting
00:27.24gingemaybe.
00:28.30dcordesis it the jogwheel rotate or press or both that resets the gpios?
00:28.43gingerotate any direction
00:28.47dcordesok
00:29.04gingeI wrote that list in about 5 minutes, so its a little rough
00:30.05gingeI really just wanted to document the simple stuff to fix. I thought maybe people might be more confident doing little bits here and there.
00:30.08dcordesyea I'm sorting it a bit detailling things and sorting by priority and so
00:32.06dcordesok then I will keep it like that
00:32.45dcordesand not add more complicated stuff
00:33.11dcordeswhere in the tree is cpu scaling realised?
00:33.22dcordes(I'm putting some hints on where is what)
00:33.36gingedcordes: do you mean where is the code?
00:33.55dcordesyes
00:34.09dcordeskaiser-pm.c?
00:34.21gingethat does some parts, yes
00:34.28gingemainly clocks.c
00:34.46gingeand clock-7x00.c
00:39.18gingenight all
00:40.37dcordesgood night
00:43.02gingehmm... one last bug report before I go... setting the RTC causes a kernel bug
00:48.08dcordesok
01:26.06dcordesnow the readme is formatted in openlolxmlformat
01:26.20dcordesbased on the infamous lolcode
01:27.17Marajindcordes: I may have to murder you now
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01:36.35dcordesNDA?
01:36.53MarajinNon Disclosure Agreement
01:36.57dcordesbut I invented the openlolxmlformat on my own
01:38.16dcordeshttp://rafb.net/p/ubRHvb89.html
01:38.28dcordescan you check if you have something that needs to appear on those lists?
01:38.51MarajinI can check
01:39.08dcordescool
01:59.10dcordesMarajin: found anything missing?
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07:18.01BoaRmorning here
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07:34.05BabelO_hi
07:34.17BabelO_kiozen: so you don't need 2.6.26 ?
07:34.38kiozenBabelO_: au contraire, I am looking forward to it
07:34.52BabelO_kiozen: ok :)
07:35.06kiozenBabelO_: BT is still wacky
07:35.12BabelO_kiozen: it seem that you have to change a litle KConfig
07:35.28kiozenBabelO_: but with my patch less wacky, so i can go on with development of M
07:36.07BabelO_kiozen: can i do a zImage for you ? just to try ?
07:36.29kiozenBabelO_: sounds good for a 1st try
07:37.27BabelO_kiozen: ok, let me found my patch first :)
07:37.51kiozenBabelO_: lol, look at he bottom of the coffee cup
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07:47.25BoaRanyone can tell me, what is mtn ?
07:48.27BabelO_kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/zImage
07:48.40BabelO_BoaR: it is monotone
07:48.51BoaRthx
07:48.51kiozenBoaR: compiling OE? "monoton"
07:49.08BoaRyeah
07:49.24BoaRkiozen: i'll try
07:49.34BoaRi have magician
07:52.04BoaRmtn: misuse: database /home/novotny/OE/OE.mtn is laid out according to an old schema
07:52.31BoaRso i used mtn --db=/....OE.mnt db migrate
07:54.19BoaRis here anyone, who works with openmoko on magician ?
07:57.26kiozenBabelO_: does not work:( just a black screen
07:58.46kiozenBabelO: http://pastebin.ca/1169357 that is my default.txt
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08:07.38BabelO_kiozen: but you see go go go, then a balck screen ?
08:08.06kiozenBabelO_: no screen just turns black
08:08.22kiozenBabelO_: but I cross check...
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08:10.42kiozenBabelO_: nothing to see
08:10.48BabelO_kiozen: but you can't boot like thaht ?
08:10.55BabelO_kiozen: you copy a .exe on device ?
08:10.59BabelO_or the zImage ?
08:11.12kiozenBabelO_: I do a loadlin.exe
08:11.20kiozenlinload.exe :)
08:11.41BabelO_kiozen: ah ok
08:11.59BabelO_kiozen: what is the setlcd4 command ?
08:13.07kiozenBabelO_: afaik switching of the lcd
08:13.33kiozenBabelO_: by that the kernel is able to assume a certain state
08:13.33BabelO_kiozen: ok :)
08:14.02BabelO_kiozen: and you did not see if usb0 come up so ?
08:14.30BabelO_kiozen: ok, so i think i found the bug
08:14.39kiozenBabelO_: I couldn't connect with usb_gadget
08:14.45BabelO_kiozen: LCCR4, cr2 add it to definition
08:15.11kiozenBabelO_: I just remember he did something realy dirty
08:15.26BoaRhow can i connect my magician wia usb ?
08:15.38BoaRwhen i plug it, nothing happens ...
08:15.48BoaRso i thing, that i need to turn on something ...
08:16.01BoaRon linux on magician
08:16.07kiozenBoaR: usb_gadget has to run on the device
08:16.27BoaRok, i'll try it ...
08:16.35BoaRsome extra parameters ?
08:17.01kiozenBoaR: and you have to make an entry in /etc/network/interfaces
08:17.10kiozenBoaR: for usb0
08:17.15BoaRok
08:17.39BoaRbut when i plug magician into linux pc, i can nothing see in dmesg ...
08:17.44BoaRno device is created
08:17.55kiozenBoaR: you should see something
08:18.03BoaRon desktop nothing
08:18.11BoaRsome on magician....
08:18.18BoaRw8, i'll boot.
08:18.31BoaRwhis onw
08:18.32BoaRhttp://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/
08:18.36BoaRthos one
08:18.51kiozensomething like that on the pc http://pastebin.ca/1169375
08:19.13BoaRkiozen: no, nothing
08:19.22BoaRi thing, that i need to start some in mobile ..
08:19.23BabelO_kiozen: same place, with the dirty hack :)
08:23.09BoaRkiozen: what do kernel parameter -boot ?
08:26.02kiozenBabelO_: disabled the lcd off
08:26.16kiozenBabelO_: it prints 5 lines
08:26.26kiozenBabelO_: and than the lcd fades off
08:26.28BabelO_kiozen: no, i just insert the cr2 patch into the new kernel
08:28.18kiozenBabelO_: last line is "Jumping top kernel..."
08:28.30BabelO_kiozen: ok
08:28.54BabelO_kiozen: so you try with newer zImage i upload 5 min ago ?
08:28.56BoaRkiozen: ok, u connect via usb, and nothing happens
08:29.07BoaRi try /etc/init.d/usb-gadget ...
08:29.12BoaRand still nothing
08:29.25kiozenBabelO_: yes, sure
08:29.31BabelO_kiozen: ok :(
08:29.34BoaRin /etc/network/interface there is line for usb0
08:29.36BabelO_kiozen: no more idea then
08:29.38BoaRsome like usb 0 auto
08:29.41BoaR(on device
08:29.56BabelO_kiozen: but in this one, i build usb0
08:32.56kiozenBoaR: I do something like this on the device http://pastebin.ca/1169390
08:33.05BoaRkiozen: thx ...
08:33.29kiozenBabelO_: it looks like it fails jumping into the kernel
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08:33.49BoaRkiozen: i dont thiong, that problem is here ...
08:33.58BoaRi have no device io my desktop ...
08:34.24BabelO_kiozen: ah :(
08:34.37BoaRso when i plug usb in, on magician in dmesg:
08:34.48BabelO_kiozen: can you try standard haret + zImage N
08:34.49BabelO_?
08:36.09BoaRegpio set: reg 2 = 0x00b1
08:37.52BoaRkiozen: is possible to connect it via BT ?
08:38.26kiozenBoaR: never tried bt connect, I just use bt for gps
08:38.32BoaRok
08:38.37BoaRso how can i start bt ?
08:40.53BoaRwhat is name of bt device ?
08:42.00kiozenBoaR: don't know how it is done on your device
08:42.03kiozenBoaR:
08:42.15BoaRok
08:42.18kiozenBoaR: ususally you have to call hciattach first
08:42.48BoaRcool
08:42.49kiozenBabelO_: tried haret with running default_n560.txt
08:43.15kiozenBabelO_: still "jumping to kernel" but screen does not fade :)
08:43.31BabelO_kiozen: what is default_n560.txt ?
08:43.47kiozenBabelO_: the one I pastebined
08:45.05BoaRkiozen: ok, so hciconfig takes no device ...
08:45.56BabelO_kiozen: but it is wrong to boot directly
08:46.32kiozenBabelO_: ok, you mean the last line?
08:46.45BabelO_kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/startup.txt
08:47.12kiozenBabelO_: ok i try ..
08:50.24BoaRkiozen: do i need to take some parameters to usb_gadgets ?
08:52.14kiozenBoaR: no, just usb-gadget
08:53.26kiozenBabelO_: should I disable this RAMADDR stuff?
08:53.46BabelO_kiozen: no keep it
08:53.53BoaRkiozen: ok
08:53.57BabelO_kiozen: should be in the kernel too
08:54.03BoaRkiozen: but after i ru int, nothing happens ...
08:54.18BoaRand ps -aux |gerp usb shows me only ksuspend_usbd
08:54.33kiozenBabelO_: ok, same behavior, "jump..." screen fades off
08:55.33BoaRah ....
08:55.41BabelO_kiozen: poor :( i miss something then
08:55.58BoaRpxa2xx-udc: There are error in configuration, udc dissable
08:56.48kiozenBabelO_: it's not that easy to follow cr2's mind ;)
08:57.10BabelO_kiozen: no :(
08:57.21BabelO_kiozen: i don't understand what i miss
08:58.00kiozenBabelO_: we should release some hounds to track him on his vacation :D
08:58.56BabelO_kiozen: need to buy a satellite internet connection for him :)
08:59.13kiozenBabelO_: yes,yes !!
08:59.31kiozenBabelO_: uplink to cr2's brain
09:00.04BabelO_kiozen: i don't understand, i reactivate the LCCR4 stuff, DRAM_BASE too but you still got the black screen, and no usb gadget detect ...
09:00.35kiozenBabelO_: imho it still does not load the kernel
09:10.58BoaRhey
09:10.59BoaRmtn:     4.0 M |     1.3 M | 2,227/3,941 | 554/980
09:10.59BoaRmtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting
09:11.02BoaR:-(
09:18.00BoaRph5 :-)
09:18.03BoaRi need you :-)
09:18.36BoaRdoes he have a jabber ?
09:19.44BoaRwhere is config of openmoko ?
09:19.55BoaRi need to add openmoko-keyboard application
09:20.06BoaRcause it sometimes falls ...
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09:40.19getapt hi
09:40.19apthello, get
09:40.23get;)
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09:43.09BoaRatpt?
09:43.24BoaRapt ? get ? :-)
09:44.05kiozen~lart BoaR
09:44.05aptnukes BoaR with a single large nuke
09:44.11kiozen:)
09:44.53kiozenbut it can do more usefull things like that, too
09:45.47BoaR:-)
09:48.34BoaRwhat is pxa2xx-udc ?
09:49.16tmzt_mp900cusb device
09:50.52BoaRyeah
09:51.39BoaRcool
09:51.47BoaRwhen i am trying to modprobe g_ether
09:51.57BoaRin dmesg i found errro:
09:52.24BoaRpxa2xx-udc: there are error in configuration, udc disabled
09:53.35tmzt_mp900cwhat does lsusb -v -v on the host (computer) say about the device?
09:54.33BoaRnothing
09:55.18BoaRtmzt_mp900c: device not attach to computer ...
09:55.25BoaRnothig nappens in dmesg
09:56.27BoaRtmzt_mp900c: problem is on mobile device
09:56.28BoaRmagician
09:56.48tmzt_mp900cI know, but this is the usb port for connecting to a computer so it won't work if not connected
09:57.05tmzt_mp900cit's trying to configure a usb client without a host
09:57.37tmzt_mp900cI think it should only be configured if it detects it is plugged in
09:58.01tmzt_mp900cdo you have any other g_ modules loaded?
09:58.06tmzt_mp900cor builtin
09:58.12BoaRno
09:58.15BoaRi have g_serial
09:58.18BoaRg_ether
09:58.34tmzt_mp900ctry removing one of them and plug in to the computer
09:58.42BoaRfile storage
09:58.50BoaRand gadgetfs
09:58.51BoaRok
09:59.17tmzt_mp900cI believe that pxa can only support one configuration at least wm requires you to unplug the device when changing from network to modem or whatever
09:59.41BoaRusb 4-1: device not accepting address 32, error -71
09:59.41BoaRusb 4-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 33
09:59.41BoaRusb 4-1: device not accepting address 33, error -71
09:59.41BoaRhub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1
09:59.56BoaRit is dmesg from desktop
10:00.15tmzt_mp900cwhich module do you have now g_ ?
10:01.01BoaRnoone
10:01.23tmzt_mp900cload g_ether, but not g_serial, g_storage, etc.
10:01.24BoaRi unload it before pluf
10:01.27BoaRok
10:01.54BoaRwhen i load it, and then write dmesg,
10:01.59BoaRi found that erro in dmesg
10:02.09BoaRthere is some like:
10:02.12tmzt_mp900cload it and plug it in
10:02.19BoaRusb0: MAC ....
10:02.29BoaRUSB0: host mac ....
10:02.34tmzt_mp900cok, ifconfig usb0 IPADDR
10:02.39BoaRUSB0: RNDIS ready
10:02.42tmzt_mp900con device and host
10:03.02BoaRPXA2XX-udc: there are error in configuration
10:03.05tmzt_mp900cdo you have any rndis modules loaded on device?
10:03.13BoaRmagician_udec_command(0)
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10:04.17tgreerhey people
10:04.42BoaRudc: USB RESET
10:04.47BoaRhere i see problem
10:04.48BoaRi thing
10:05.18BoaRtmzt_mp900c: hey
10:05.49BoaRtmzt_mp900c: i have no USB0 on desktop
10:05.58tmzt_mp900cifconfig usb0 up
10:06.14tmzt_mp900cbut I think you have old g_ether and rndis, don't think both will work
10:06.19BoaRtmzt_mp900c: problem is in connecting
10:06.23tgreeri was just wondering if someone could remind me what to set my default.txt to to use the rootfs on my memorycard>?
10:06.42tmzt_mp900cwhat partition is it on?
10:06.52tgreer2?
10:06.56BoaRset KERNEL zImage
10:06.56BoaRset CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=1 -usb"
10:06.56BoaRbootlinux
10:07.06BoaRmy default.txt , from magician
10:07.13tgreerthanks
10:07.17tmzt_mp900cBoaR you don't have that -usb do you?
10:07.22tmzt_mp900cwhat's that for
10:07.31BoaRrootfs is 2nd partition
10:07.40BoaRtmzt_mp900c: just for testing ... i found on some discussion ...
10:07.52tmzt_mp900ccat /proc/cmdline
10:08.01BoaRi know :-)
10:08.05BoaRno it is turned on ...
10:08.10BoaRso w8, for reboot
10:08.17BoaRbtw. can i use some like nosplash ?
10:08.19BoaRin boot ?
10:08.29tmzt_mp900cdon't know, maybe
10:08.37tmzt_mp900cdoes it use psplash?
10:08.49tgreer:/
10:08.53tmzt_mp900cis this qtopia?
10:09.04tgreerFAT: unable to read boot sector ...
10:09.12tgreerits it maybe p1?
10:09.16tgreern fat is p0?
10:09.44tmzt_mp900cthe fat thing might be ok, shouldn't it be ext2?
10:09.54tgreerit is
10:09.56tgreerlol
10:09.56tmzt_mp900cmore rootdelay=5
10:10.03BoaRtmzt_mp900c: no, openmoko
10:10.21BoaRon Ångström
10:10.28BoaRAngstrom
10:10.30tmzt_mp900cremoving things from /etc/init.d/ should work, like bootsplash, nodm, whatever
10:10.39BoaRthx
10:11.23BoaRyeah, there is psplash
10:11.34tgreerWarning: Unable to open initial console
10:11.34tgreer:s
10:11.39BoaRcool, so psplash=false
10:12.07tmzt_mp900ctgreer: it's stuck there?
10:12.12tgreerna past it
10:12.20tgreerstill bitchin about unable to open partition
10:12.24tgreeris the first partition p0
10:12.27tgreeror p1 ?
10:12.34tmzt_mp900cdon't think so but can't check
10:13.18tmzt_mp900cthere should only be as many devices in /dev as there are partitions if udev is working
10:13.22BoaRtmzt_mp900c: first should bve p1
10:13.46BoaRtgreer: and in boot, u can see some like
10:13.47tmzt_mp900cright, mmcblk0 mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p2
10:13.51BoaRmmcblk0
10:13.53BoaRp1
10:13.54BoaRp2
10:13.58tmzt_mp900cthe first is the whole card
10:14.00tgreermmcblk0: p1 p2
10:14.09BoaRtgreer: yeah thats it
10:14.14tmzt_mp900cdid you add more rootdelay?
10:14.17tgreerfeck lol
10:14.19tgreeryeh 10
10:14.24tgreerbut also changed the partition to p1
10:14.30tgreerso its trying to boot my fat partition lol
10:14.32tmzt_mp900cshould be p2
10:14.57tmzt_mp900crootdelay=5 should be enough
10:14.59tgreer*dances to german europop trance*
10:15.05tmzt_mp900csince you need to reboot
10:15.28tgreer*fetched tomtom maps*
10:16.25BoaRcool
10:16.38BoaRrebooted, without -usb in kernel parameters
10:16.52tgreerWarning: Unable to open an inital console
10:17.07tgreerFAT:ubale to read boot sector
10:17.15tmzt_mp900cthat's the initramfs I think
10:17.18BoaRtgreer: so u are booting from fat partition
10:17.22tgreerno ...
10:17.27tgreerbooting from the ext2 partition
10:17.40tmzt_mp900cdo you have ext2 built into kernel?
10:17.47tgreermeh after al that it gets me to a login prompt
10:17.47tgreerROFL
10:18.04tmzt_mp900clogin like login: ?
10:18.36tgreeryeh
10:18.37tgreerlol
10:18.51tmzt_mp900clogin in as root
10:18.56tgreeri did heh
10:19.51tmzt_mp900cthe root delay only needs to be long enough to get the mmcblk0: p1 p2 line before it gives up
10:20.20gethey ppl
10:20.29tmzt_mp900capt is a bot
10:21.04getif i install gizard on s200 did it work as telephone as well or only as pda?
10:21.14tmzt_mp900cinstall what
10:21.23tmzt_mp900cwhat is the htc name for s200?
10:21.35getprophet
10:21.48gethtc prophet
10:21.50tmzt_mp900cand "gizard"?
10:21.51getqtek s200
10:21.55gethttp://tinderbox.x86.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080602.tar.bz2
10:21.57getthis
10:22.08tgreergentoo ---eewwwww
10:22.09tgreerlol
10:22.15tmzt_mp900cI don't know about that one, but it's omap?
10:22.29getis tehre any other choice as thisone?
10:22.37getfor this phone?
10:22.47tmzt_mp900clook on xda wiki for Prophet
10:22.58tmzt_mp900cxda-developers.com
10:23.02tmzt_mp900cwiki.xda-developers.com
10:23.04getruns
10:24.02tgreerso can someone remind me how i initiate a ppp session?
10:24.09tgreercant remember the location of the script
10:24.14tmzt_mp900cwith desktop or gsm?
10:24.21tgreern seeing as locate n updatedb aint commands
10:24.22tmzt_mp900cwhat device is it?
10:24.23tgreergsm
10:24.25tgreerkaiser
10:24.28tgreertytn II
10:24.32tgreerp4550
10:24.39gethttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2352914#post2352914
10:24.40tgreermda vario III
10:24.41tmzt_mp900cthere was a script
10:24.42getit is this one
10:24.48getsame as i post below
10:24.56getabove*
10:25.01tmzt_mp900care you using rootfs from dcordes bootkit?
10:25.31tgreeri'm using tgreer-special-rootfs.tar.gz he uploaded for me
10:25.41tgreerbasically his rootfs
10:26.02tmzt_mp900chis script might be in there, but you need your APN/inits in /etc/init1 /etc/init2
10:26.14tmzt_mp900ccan't remeber what it's called though
10:27.52tgreer/usr/bin/ppp.sh
10:28.08tgreerdamn
10:28.09tgreerits not in this
10:28.33tmzt_mp900cno initmodem or something?
10:29.13tgreerthe script i mentioned above doesnt exist lol
10:29.17tgreerdcordes!!!!!1
10:29.37tmzt_mp900che should be back in a few hours
10:29.51tgreerhow do u get a pipe in angstrom?
10:29.54tgreer<PROTECTED>
10:30.04tmzt_mp900cmight try android thread t=396782
10:30.20tmzt_mp900cthey setup the modem before starting android
10:30.35tmzt_mp900cdo you have \ on camera?
10:31.21tgreeryes
10:31.34tmzt_mp900cshift-\ uparrow thing on right of keyboard
10:32.04tgreershift \ done it :)
10:32.30tmzt_mp900cdcordes didn't know about that for a while and had to work around it
10:32.39tgreerfail :P
10:32.55tgreerso who's the genius behind kaiser linux?
10:32.58tgreer/angstrom
10:33.20tmzt_mp900cginge?, but the msm stuff is all dzo who made it work first
10:33.50tmzt_mp900cangstrom is older, and based on openembedded which was openzaurus
10:34.02tgreerdoes init 6 reboot the kaiser?
10:34.14tmzt_mp900cfamiliar was a dec/compaq/hp thing
10:34.26tmzt_mp900cit might if init is setup right
10:34.34tmzt_mp900cor reboot
10:34.55tgreerstuck 2 Rebooting... _
10:35.02tgreer*stuck  @
10:35.30tmzt_mp900cmight not work, just press the reset
10:35.53tmzt_mp900cthey are working on power management, don't know which kernel (zImage) you have though
10:36.52tgreerthe one in the kaiser-bootkit
10:36.55tgreerfolder
10:37.22tmzt_mp900cyeah, but still don't know what he has in there, 2.6.24/25/26?
10:37.33tmzt_mp900cdoesn't matter though
10:37.44tgreerbit late, rebooted :P
10:41.54tgreerfudgin OSX
10:42.57BoaRso is somewhere working magician linux ?
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10:44.47tgreer:( SDHC cards melt my hands :(
10:45.49tgreerfuckin HUGE bee in my room :(
10:47.39tmzt_mp900cBoaR: is usb working now?
10:47.47BoaRtmzt_mp900c: no
10:47.48tmzt_mp900cwhat are you trying to do?
10:47.58BoaRtmzt_mp900c: dont' know
10:48.19tmzt_mp900cwhat modules g_ rndis_ are loaded?
10:48.27BoaRi thing, i need kernel-module-pxa2xx-udc
10:48.39tmzt_mp900cshould be built in
10:48.48tmzt_mp900cif you got error messages before
10:50.30BoaRanother problem ... i got sms ...
10:50.48BoaRbut when i am trying to read it, openmoko-messaging segfault
10:51.00tmzt_mp900cis gsmd running?
10:51.03BoaRyeah
10:51.10BoaRi press sms
10:51.18BoaRi see unknown sender
10:51.21BoaR14 unread
10:51.22BoaR0 read
10:51.45BoaRand when i press middle button, it shows me messags for a second, and dhetn segfault
10:52.04BoaRcan i move it into pc, and read it here ?
10:52.07tmzt_mp900cthese things aren't very stable, but you would need debugging support to find out why it segfaults
10:52.25BoaRyeah i kno
10:52.34BoaRbut is possible to move it somewhere ?
10:52.45tmzt_mp900cI don't think you can right now, is it on the sim card?
10:52.52BoaRi now, that messages are not on card,
10:53.03BoaRyeah, it could be ... :-)
10:53.07tmzt_mp900ccan you copy it to sim from om?
10:53.12BoaRi'll take a look
10:53.19tmzt_mp900cmight have to use wm to read it right now
10:53.26BoaRyeah
10:53.30BoaRok thx
10:54.00BoaRok about usb ...
10:54.17BoaRi have loaded
10:54.19BoaRg-ether
10:54.47tmzt_mp900cis rndis_client loaded?
10:54.54BoaRno
10:55.04tmzt_mp900cso no other g_ modules are loaded
10:55.05BoaRi have no *rnd* in /lib/modules/....
10:55.13BoaRyeah, only g_ether is loaded
10:55.28tmzt_mp900cplugging it in to computer gives you what
10:55.53tmzt_mp900cwas the MAC address blank before?
10:56.18BoaRin computer nothing ...
10:56.33BoaRin magician:
10:56.44BoaRegpio set: reg 2 = 0x00b1
10:57.47BoaRi thing, that problem is in usb-gadget ...
10:58.11BoaRand/or in g_ether
10:58.23tmzt_mp900cyou got MAC message before, but not now?
10:58.36tmzt_mp900cifconfig usb0 IPADDR on device
10:58.51BoaRi got MAC when i modprobe g_ether
10:59.18BoaRusb0 have ip, have MAC ...
10:59.28BoaRon device
11:00.50BoaRi'll try another linux image ...
11:04.38gethey
11:04.59gettriyn to boot on p3300
11:05.09tgreerdamn OSX
11:05.26tgreertrying to copy the new zImage to my memorycard
11:05.30getand it hangs on loading kernel
11:06.06getwhere i have to copy the exe and the bz2 ?
11:06.25getfor the p3300? into mcard or to the phone directly?
11:06.32get*phone/pda
11:07.01BoaRget: phonecard
11:07.08BoaRu have to have 2 partitions
11:07.17getaha
11:07.28getthe memorycard you mean?
11:07.31BoaR1 fat, with loader.exe (or similiar) and with zImage
11:07.49BoaRand 2nd with ext2 partition, with root fs
11:07.53BoaRyeah on memory card
11:08.10getaha
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11:08.25getive just putted the exe and the bz2 into the memcard and fired the .exe
11:08.34getso then its normal i see
11:08.49getso i have to make partitions
11:08.53BoaRget: :-)
11:09.04BoaRhehe u need .gz unzipp into ext2 partition
11:09.07tgreernew kernel is brighter :D
11:09.23tgreer/more readable
11:09.25getdamn the minisdcard is HC
11:09.37getis there any pocketpc partitioner?
11:09.41tgreerna
11:09.49tgreeri've been hunting for months
11:09.53tgreernot got a card reader?
11:10.03getyes but no HC
11:10.27tgreerah
11:10.32get4gb HC kingston
11:10.46tgreer8gb sdhc sandisk :)
11:11.32tgreerfound dcordes ppp.sh
11:11.40tgreer~/ppp.sh
11:13.34BoaRis possible boot linux on magician another way, than feom wm ?
11:13.44BoaRi hate hardreset stuf .. when rebooting linux
11:13.55tgreerxda devs just nosedive?
11:14.23tgreerSafari can’t open the page “http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=72” because it can’t find the server “forum.xda-developers.com”.
11:14.42BoaRtmzt_mp900c: yeah
11:14.58tgreerFAIL!!
11:15.06tgreercos its not on my box :P
11:15.09BoaRlooks like xda dev ar down
11:15.58tgreergaarhh
11:17.39tgreeri was in the middle of readin a thread lol
11:19.16BoaRtmzt_mp900c:-)
11:22.39BoaRhttp://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:4I0SMishDtQJ:forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D404145+http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D396782&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=cz&client=firefox-a
11:22.45BoaRtgreer: will this help ?
11:23.18tgreernot really.. thats for hermes :P
11:23.21tgreerbut thanks
11:23.45tgreerbrb
11:25.02BoaRis somewhere boot.log ?
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12:06.04BoaRtgreer: xda works again
12:06.10tgreersuperb, thanks
12:09.54tgreer*kicks seeders up n down the internet*
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12:57.32getis off, bnc on
12:57.59tgreercya
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14:06.36Marajinmergh
14:11.47tgreer_hey people
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15:27.41kiozenBabelO_: minor bug fixes and bitching around with bt
15:27.50kiozenBabelO_: gps source setup
15:28.11kiozenBabelO_: backlight control (manual/ timeout)
15:28.20kiozenBabelO_: timezone settings
15:28.36kiozenBabelO_: think that's it :)
15:31.30BabelO_kiozen: ok, i did not found where cr2 change kernel to boot n560, don't know what i need to do, maybe Marex have an idea, i ll ask him later
15:33.09kiozenBabelO_: ok, as said, my fixes make it from being 100% unusable to something like 70% usable, thus no rush
15:33.37kiozenBabelO_: but stable bt is still important
15:34.52kiozenBabelO_: I hope cr2 ever manages to fix battery support and resume
15:35.29kiozenBabelO_: those things missing is a real show stoper
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17:30.21Marajin'lo ginge
17:30.35gingeyoyo
17:31.08Marajinwhere?! damn kids!
17:31.14gingeheh
17:33.26MarajinShoot the bastards!
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17:43.30tgreerhey all
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18:19.55tgreero/
18:24.17BabelOkiozen
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18:49.53BabelOkiozen: pm
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19:06.39Marajin'lo dcordes
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19:06.54tgreerdcordes!!!!!!!!!
19:07.02tgreer*hugs*
19:07.11Marajinok now I'm worries
19:07.13Marajin*worried
19:07.16tgreerheh
19:07.26tgreerthanks to dcordes i have workin linux on kaiser :D
19:07.36tgreerjust ppp = fail heh
19:07.41dcordeslol thanks to me!?!?
19:07.42dcordeshi all
19:07.50Marajinworking linux yay, dead ppp boo
19:07.51dcordesbarks
19:07.53dcordeswouf owuf
19:08.01tgreerthe rootfs u gave me
19:08.11dcordesah so you got your sd?
19:08.14MarajinJesus, I knew the people were odd in germany but I never knew they had bizarre dogs
19:08.22tgreeroh n thanks for telling me you relocated the ppp.sh script lol
19:08.56tgreeralso using 2.6.25 bin :)
19:09.14dcordesMarajin: the beagle board really is a bizarre little doggy
19:09.57dcordesI hope my brother has an hdmi->dvi cable available for me
19:10.16tgreerdcordes: remind me who i install an ipk?
19:10.21Marajindcordes: I have one actually.
19:10.30Marajindcordes: but you're a bit far to just drop it round heh
19:10.35Marajinanyway, I go for fooood
19:10.48tgreerso like
19:10.56tgreermy new iphone is gonna be my phone phone
19:11.04tgreerand my kaiser is gonna be by tinkering phone :)
19:11.30dcordesmy jet is in the garage for service
19:11.35dcordesbut thanks Marajin
19:11.39tgreerwho does the kb mapping?
19:12.21tgreercos i wanna make a suggestion, again
19:13.04tgreern ~/ppp.sh fails dcordes :P
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19:17.33dcordessry needed to grab a fine beer
19:17.46dcordestgreer: marbalon is the keyoad driver author
19:17.58tgreerah kk
19:18.08tgreerwrats he/she aint here
19:18.12dcordesfind his email in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c <- that filename is odd
19:18.43dcordesa) it should be htckaiser b) keypad is misleading, it sound like it's only the front keypad.
19:19.23dcordestgreer: ppp.sh fails because you specify wrong account info.
19:19.26dcordesmost certainly
19:19.29tgreer:(
19:19.43tgreersays its connected fine but ifconfig shows nout
19:19.45dcordesbecause it worked on my kaiser, I tar.gzipped it directly off the sd!
19:19.46tgreerwell lo only
19:19.55dcordesyea it always says that
19:19.55tgreerchanged hostname
19:20.03dcordesalso if you have a typo or wrong info
19:20.17tgreercannot however change my password cos theres an feckin 8char limit on it lol
19:20.32dcordespebcam, where did you look it up?
19:21.27dcordeswhere is an 8 char limit?
19:21.36tgreeris there a way of specifing no user n password for ppp.sh?
19:21.48tgreerseeing as my phone says: oranginternet no user no pass
19:23.34tgreerdcordes: is thre a way of overwriting the 8char limit for passwd?
19:24.04dcordestgreer: for my provider, user and pass don't matter, so I type "./ppp.sh web.vodafone.de your mom"
19:24.14tgreerah kk
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19:25.26tgreercorrect info no luck
19:27.48dcordesyou're 100% on the apn?
19:28.16tgreeryup
19:28.21tgreertried 3 diff names as well
19:28.30tgreern i know cos i nicked it from the settins in WM
19:28.39tgreerorangeinternet
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19:33.48dcordestgreer: maybe it will fail after you typed it 1x wrong afterwards?
19:34.35tgreer*shrugs
19:34.40tgreerback to wm for now
19:34.44tgreergot calls n texts to make
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20:04.54Marajindcordes: A fine beer is a fine idea! ANd thus I go to locate such an item. I'm not sure I have much but I think there's at least a hoegaarden secreted somewhere
20:07.44dcordesI have a crate of wheat beer
20:10.01Marajinwell yes but they are 1.25l bottles dcordes  so
20:10.07Marajincrate no, but big bottles yes
20:12.13dcordeshet lekkere hoegaarden
20:13.05Marajinheh
20:13.32dcordesI like heineken beer very much
20:13.51dcordeswhen it comes to netherland's beers
20:14.13Marajin.. silly man
20:15.54dcordesyou don't?
20:16.11Marajinso wait, het lekkere? you're saying it's a little flat?
20:17.02dcordesI don't know I can't speak nl
20:17.14Marajinit's not that different from german sometimes
20:17.19Marajinsome words are identical even
20:18.56MarajinI think lekkere means flat though like.. deflated, without gas in it
20:19.11dcordeslekker
20:19.12dcordesadv. deliciously, with a wonderful taste or smell
20:19.37dcordeshet
20:19.38dcordespron. it
20:19.39MarajinIt'd make sense from lecker I gues
20:20.15dcordesyea the funny thing for a german person is, lekker is used more globally than lecker I think
20:20.23dcordesnot only for foodstuffs
20:20.59Marajinyeah it's used in english beyond food too
20:21.11Marajindelicious can describe people and such too
20:21.57MarajinThe exact meaning has morphed over time tho'
20:22.09Marajinused to be it meant like.. they were just a nice and sweet person
20:22.17Marajinnow it's more that they're physically attractive
20:22.33dcordesinteresting
20:22.57Marajinyeah
20:24.29dcordesI can't wait to get my hdmi->dvi
20:24.38Marajinsighs as code starts to blur in front of his eyes.
20:24.44MarajinDamnitall I'm too tired
20:25.04dcordeswhat are you coding?
20:25.12MarajinSome DB app
20:25.18MarajinNothing really relevant to htc-linux
20:25.47dcordesand you dare name it in here then :P
20:26.00MarajinI dare name anything here
20:26.04Marajinwhatcha gonna do about it eh? :P
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20:41.23onipreved rus
20:41.25oni=)
20:41.51dcordesyo
20:42.31spbvachi oni
20:42.36oni)
20:42.59spbvacmirc and windows sucks ;-)
20:43.37spbvacare there any news about linux for diamond ?
20:44.10dcordesspbvac: not that I know of
20:44.19dcordesyou must ask one of the gurus
20:44.32dcordesmaybe xda wiki has some info on fb location and so
20:44.52dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondMemoryMap
20:44.58dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondResearch
20:45.39dcordes0x1666a000      FBRAM
20:45.41spbvacdcordes: thanks
20:45.56oniand for htc tytn?
20:46.24dcordesoh nyce 0x01f00000 is smem, same as msm7200. get it booting and make calls.
20:46.34dcordeswith kaiser/polaris kernel
20:46.52dcordesspbvac: find info on it here http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt
20:46.54spbvacok, i should try tomorrow
20:47.11Marajindcordes: aha, after years I am still the master of SQL though :p
20:47.19dcordesI don't know what to do to change fb location and so, I only know it needs to be done
20:47.23dcordesbecause cr2 said it
20:47.40dcordesspbvac: you can also comapre the diamond memory map to kaiser one (KaiserMemomryMap)
20:48.09dcordesso you get hints what to change from kaiser/polaris configuration to get to diam
20:48.16spbvacdcordes: i am reading the kaiser wiki pages now.
20:48.23dcordesMarajin: I can't even do proper bash code
20:48.32Marajindcordes: You're yet young!
20:48.41dcordesI'm not going to become a coder
20:48.47dcordesat least not professional one
20:49.06Marajinprofessional coders can't code!
20:49.11Marajinthey just headbutt the keyboard
20:49.19dcordesoni: for tytn 2 (kaiser) see linuxtogo link
20:49.22spbvaclol
20:49.51Marajinbut every geek must be forged in the fires of coding!
20:49.53onitytn 1, not t2
20:49.59spbvaconi: tytn is another name for hermes ?
20:50.04dcordesI think so
20:50.05oniyes
20:50.07Marajinyes TyTn is the herme
20:50.11Marajin+s
20:50.16dcordesMarajin has one
20:50.17onihermes)
20:50.19MarajinI do
20:50.22Marajinso does Ginge
20:50.24Marajinbut he broke his
20:50.28dcordesand cr2
20:50.32Marajinyes cr2 has one
20:52.30Marajinoni: Basically you're a bit in trouble with the hermes unless you're down for low level developing of it
20:52.58Marajinoni: the SD is a major question mark on the hermes leading people to be fairly uninterested in progressing the port
20:53.00oni=\
20:53.41MarajinI think there's keyboard and framebuffer working and maybe nearly working NAND but really it's nowhere near as usable as many other devices
20:55.10Marajinoni: Anyway, Cr2 is probably the most knowledgeable about the hermes who tends to be active at all
20:55.36Marajinof course it's fitting that cr2 is not here right now
20:55.58dcordesand I doubt he is working on it at the moment anyway
20:56.04dcordesiirc
20:56.25oniwell I have understood
20:56.37dcordesit always sounded like the ATI chip is quite a hurdle
20:56.39spbvacdcordes: it seems that there are some substantial differences between kaiser and diamond.
20:57.04dcordesspbvac: you can search the rikers log or irclog.iclem.net
20:57.14dcordescr2 gave some info on the differences
20:57.15spbvacdcordes: ati chip ? diamond also has some ati chip...
20:57.21dcordesI didn't write it down :(
20:57.31dcordesspbvac: yes different thing
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20:57.47dcordeson the hermes, it does also sound and stuff
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20:57.59spbvacdcordes: ok, seems like a big task for searching on google.
20:58.11dcordescr2 diamond
20:58.35nh_I would have got the diamond but it is too much $$$
20:59.07dcordesI will probably get it for some weeks when a person I knows prolongues their contract
20:59.09spbvacdcordes: yes, it seems that the ati chip is used for video on diamond
20:59.16Marajinspbvac: The diamond only uses the ATI chip for graphics rendering. On the hermes it does a lot more. the diamond is majoritively just an MSM system like the kaiser, polaris, vogue and others
20:59.34spbvacnh_: i don"t have it, just thinking about it :)
21:00.00Marajindcordes: Diamond is MSM7201A yes?
21:00.10dcordesshrugs
21:00.10nh_spbvac: me too, I ended up just buying a shadow (juno) off of ebay.
21:00.13dcordesI think so
21:00.22spbvacMarajin: yes
21:00.36nh_I'll try haRET once I get it and see how it goes.
21:00.43Marajinspbvac: Yeah so same as kaiser but faster with an included ATi chip for graphics processing
21:00.55Marajins/kaiser/kaiser chipset/
21:00.56spbvacnh_: is shadow/juno similar to diamond ?
21:01.35dcordesnh_: there are some people in the xda forums who tried the kaiser stuff on diamond
21:01.43dcordesnh_: if you are curious
21:01.55nh_spbvac: not really.  It's a slider with the blackberry pearl style keyboard and no touch screen.  It has a 200 mhz omap850 in it.
21:02.07dcordesMarajin: juno=phoebus
21:02.30spbvachmm. linux does not have a very good record on supporting the accelerated embedded graphic chipset features...
21:02.32nh_dcordes: I'll probably look it over at some point, but I'll wait until the price comes down to get one.
21:02.54spbvacnh_: ok, omap is certainly a cheaper alternative
21:03.31nh_spbvac: yeah, I got it for $150US so quite reasonably priced.
21:03.42dcordesspbvac: I just received my beagleboard which has porn graphics in linux
21:03.48dcordesvery good
21:03.58Marajinporn graphics indeed/
21:03.59dcordesbut the good driver is closed as of now
21:04.02spbvacwell, diamond is much more expensive, that"s true.
21:04.28spbvacdcordes: what is beagleboard ?
21:04.33dcordesI like the diamond quite well
21:04.40nh_spbvac: I had a rokr e2 for a while but it went through the washing machine (after I replaced the LCD when I dropped it on the cement).
21:04.49nh_I like cheap phones now. ;)
21:04.50dcordesspbvac: a tiny omap3 based board
21:05.04spbvacnh_: hehe
21:05.06oninh_: ))
21:05.07dcordesspbvac: with hsusb otg, hdmi and such nice interfaces
21:05.11Marajinheh
21:05.27dcordesspbvac: http://beagleboard.org/
21:05.32Marajinnh_: I dropped a Nokia 8210 35ft off a cliff onto solid rock once!
21:05.39Marajinnh_: It didn't break
21:05.41spbvacdcordes: is there any linux support for it at all ?
21:05.47nh_Marajin: motorola phones seem to be incredibly fragile.
21:05.53dcordesa friend dropped his siemens sx1 or so into a glass of beer
21:05.58MarajinI don't much ike the ROKR
21:06.06Marajindcordes: I dropped my hermes in coffee
21:06.10dcordesdried it and was fine. the most robust phone I owned myself was the nokia 5110
21:06.22Marajindcordes: And on concrete several times
21:06.30nh_My wife dropped her samsung into a can of yellow paint. I grabbed it and ran to our liquor cabinet and bathed it in everclear for an hour, it looks and works better than it used to!
21:06.39dcordesI dropped it uncountable times; it breaks into all its pieces each time, but doesn't take harm.
21:06.44Marajindcordes: There's a small crack in teh case and the earpiece has been a bit quiet since the coffee but it's fine
21:06.45onio_O
21:06.47oni)))
21:07.01dcordesnh_: haha nice one
21:07.17spbvaconi: don"t try it with hermes :)
21:07.25oni=))))
21:07.42MarajinYes these things should only be done by seasoned professional phone-borkers!
21:08.09nh_dcordes: everclear is fantastic.  It cleans anything.
21:08.13dcordesnh_: everclear is alcohol?
21:08.41nh_dcordes: yeah, 95% grain liquor.
21:09.01Marajini.e. slightly dialuted alcohol :p
21:09.05dcordesit didn't harm the pcb?
21:09.18Marajindcordes: Nah it wouldn't harm the pcb it'd probably aid it
21:09.56nh_dcordes: Nope.  Only problem is that it leaked between the screen and the plastic and because there were paint particles mixed in it looks a bit foggy now.
21:10.24nh_but her microphone works much better and the phone is otherwise much newer looking now. ;)
21:10.28dcordesopen the plastic and give it more everclear
21:11.03nh_dcordes: I was considering it, but it was a big hassle taking my E2 apart.
21:11.25nh_I imagine samsung phones are worse.
21:11.46dcordesnever had one
21:12.06Marajindepends on the samsung but seriously can be yeah
21:12.14MarajinI had the x820 at one point :P
21:12.32Marajinya know the one that's ony a few mm thick?
21:12.42Marajin6.9 at the widest point (camera module)
21:12.56nh_yeah, My wife has the t-629.  It's much thicker, but I bet it's still a pain to work on.
21:13.08nh_her's is like 12-13mm thick.
21:13.45Marajin6.9 at the widest point, more like 4 for 90% of the body :P
21:13.55Marajinthey're seriously thin phones
21:13.56Marajinso thin
21:14.21Marajinthey had to invent a new way to reinforce plastic to make them or something
21:14.30Marajinor they'd be wobbly and bend/snap
21:14.41Marajinfrom the time I used it, it was quite tough though
21:14.55dcordes.. d'oh of course I have one. d600
21:16.01nh_Marajin: I imagine it's tough going back from having something that portable.
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21:24.39Marajinnh_: Nope, I really don't find size or weigh an issue.
21:25.08Marajinnh_: at 118kg, I'm not small and easily portable myself so I find things like the kaiser extremely portable :P
21:25.28tgreerrofl
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21:26.35MarajinI don't really notice to put things like that even in the pocket of fairly tight trousers and such
21:28.42nh_well, time to go catch my bus
21:29.06Marajinnh_: Enjoy!
21:32.10dcordesnh_: cya
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21:34.19gingeMarajin: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPjE8iHSxJ8-mG30E-f-G_s01Vmg
21:34.19Marajin'lo ginge
21:34.26Marajineek
21:34.36MarajinI got preemptively linked!
21:34.36tgreerGINGE you big cuddly legend :D
21:34.38gingeyou probably already saw that, but... wtf?
21:35.04gingetgreer: I'm scared now :)
21:35.26Marajinginge: that ACTUALLY made me snort derisively
21:35.31Marajinthat's no small feat
21:35.35gingeMarajin: indeed
21:35.49tgreerginge: i've just discovered you're partly to blame for the lack of linux functionality on my kaiser :P
21:35.58tgreern your also an xda-devs user :)
21:36.05gingetgreer: um... ?
21:36.18dcordesПривет ginge
21:36.31tgreerginge: sarcastic way of saying you helps with linux on kaiser
21:36.40ginge'lo
21:36.49MarajinThat's not sarcasm technically
21:37.07gingetgreer: yeah, I didn;t see the sarcasm, sorry
21:37.33dcordesginge: I put the readme with the new lists up
21:37.34tgreernp ginge, you'll learn if my sentence has a :p in it its meant sarcastically :)
21:37.49gingetgreer: I have a script that removes all smileys :)
21:37.55tgreerah kk
21:37.56dcordes:D
21:38.05MarajinWe're notherners! We're beyond redemption and must become southerners to survive ya see, and thus we _understand_ sarcasm ;)
21:38.37gingeMarajin: don't set me off again. My gf just went to bed because I ranted for about an hour straight
21:38.42Marajin:D
21:38.54Marajingrins.
21:38.56tgreerginge: baaad
21:39.03Marajintgreer: And yet, hilarious
21:39.04dcordesthe term tink tank is quite funny
21:39.24gingetgreer: she understands. She did the same to her work colleague when she saw it :)
21:39.29Marajindcordes: You know they don't mean trundley armoured vehicle that makes boomsplodey?
21:39.38Marajin;)
21:39.38gingelol
21:39.45MarajinI wish they did
21:39.49Marajinhow cool would that be?
21:40.01Marajin"Liverpool's fucked, we think it now... **BOOM**"
21:40.06gingeextremely. We could drive it to Londonium and blow the wankers up ;)
21:40.10Marajin:D
21:40.11dcordesno I thought they are tanks with sociologists sitting on the inside
21:40.12Marajinyes we could
21:40.25Marajindcordes: Perhaps they're scientologists? ;)
21:40.34Marajinbrb, Have to see a man about breaking his satnav
21:40.47tgreerheh, Marajin
21:40.52tgreeryou should visit glasgow sometime
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21:41.00tgreerthen say liverpools fucked :P
21:41.02gingetgreer: I value my kidneys
21:41.24dcordesginge: got your beagle?
21:41.24tgreerginge: its not that bad ...
21:41.32gingetgreer: yeah I know :)
21:41.32tgreerjust dont wear a liverpool top :P
21:41.41tgreeror a man u top
21:41.43gingedcordes: no, it looks like it went missing in transit
21:41.46dcordesginge: :P :P
21:41.57gingedcordes: doh!
21:41.57tgreerman u top is like a bull's red rag to old firm supporters :P
21:42.01gingetgreer: lol
21:42.24gingetgreer: They all piled down not so long ago iirc. I used to work next to the manu ground. I went home early
21:42.34tgreernananana HOLD THE HECK ON
21:42.39tgreerdo not associate US with rangers fans
21:42.45tgreers/fans/hooligans/g
21:42.59tgreerapt = bot?
21:42.59aptDo I look like a bot??
21:43.04tgreerlol
21:43.07tgreerduly noted
21:43.10tgreerdamn thats smart
21:43.17gingeyeah
21:43.17tgreerneed to get my irc bot to do that for sed syntax
21:43.33gingecheese is at http://www.cheese.org/
21:43.35gingewhere is cheese?
21:43.42gingenot that smart
21:43.54gingewait, I think I saw that command in the help
21:44.15gingewhere can I find cheese?
21:44.30gingeno, nevermind
21:44.37tgreerMooBot is a supybot
21:44.43tgreer(my irc bot btw)
21:45.04ginge:)
21:45.27dcordestgreer: where does he live?
21:45.36tgreerwww.tsone.info
21:45.39tgreer#geeksoc
21:45.44gingebrb got to seea man about some nicotine
21:45.48tgreermy irc server
21:46.11tgreerand #ceo
21:46.30tgreerwhere i should be but i'm too lazy to join
21:51.10tgreerxD
21:52.10dcordesrude bot
21:52.17tgreerrofl
21:52.37dcordestgreer: btw you can try to compare the ppp.sh with the one on ginge's website
21:52.48dcordesmaybe it's broken somehow but I doubt it
21:52.49tgreerer ... ask me tomorrow :P
21:52.53tgreeri'm falling asleep lol
21:53.10dcordesI'm making a new console image anyway, it's on the userspace todo list
21:53.25tgreercool
21:53.33tgreeranything i can help with? or just stfu n gtfo?
21:53.59dcordesI will inform your when I have it
21:54.06dcordesyou
21:54.10tgreerso destructive testing? :P
21:54.23dcordesright
21:55.44gingeokay, fixed the RTC but. You can now set the clock without an oopd
21:55.52ginges/oopd/oops/
21:56.07gingeRTC bug. man i'm tired
21:57.25dcordesyou can oops the butt w/o a clock?
21:57.51tgreerneed to find a sed plugin for moobot
21:58.01tgreer<PROTECTED>
21:58.50dcordesginge: removed it from the kernel todo list
21:59.15dcordes~lart MooBot for havin lame lart database
21:59.15aptwhips out his power stapler and staples MooBot's foot to the floor for havin lame lart database
21:59.38tgreerROFL
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22:06.57Marajintgreer: I've been to glasgow, I used to live in Perthshire actually
22:07.03tgreerah cool
22:07.06tgreerwhat part?
22:07.09MarajinScne
22:07.11Marajin*scone
22:07.14tgreerahhh
22:07.18tgreerhmm
22:07.26tgreeri'm sure one of my uni mates lives there
22:07.30Marajinprobably
22:07.39Marajinnobody in scone is actually scottish though you realise?
22:07.50MarajinI lived next to a londoner, a liverpudlian and a white african
22:07.52tgreeryeh lol
22:15.29MarajinI also lived right near the pub though
22:15.34Marajinwhich is never a bad thing
22:15.35tgreerlol
22:15.54tgreerMarajin: i'm off to dalguise next weekend
22:16.00Marajinwooo? :P
22:16.11tgreeryeh lol
22:16.12tgreerpast u
22:16.16tgreerwell old u
22:16.16tgreerlol
22:16.21Marajinyeah :p
22:16.23tgreerweekend with cadets
22:16.28tgreeranyways bed time
22:16.30tgreernight
22:16.53Marajinginge: Look at this eh, scots are supposed to have stamina aren't they?
22:20.46gingesorry, was trying to beat the bobox into life.
22:21.04gingeheh bebox
22:22.41Marajinjooooy
22:22.45Marajinjoy I say!
22:22.51Marajinthere will be enforced happiness
22:23.26gingeconsidering I have to move to london to be happy, I think I will pass
22:23.55gingeor at least the southeast
22:25.15Marajinhhe
22:25.18Marajin*heh
22:25.31MarajinOne day I may visit
22:25.34Marajin+london
22:25.53gingenever been?
22:25.56MarajinWith a happydetector plugged into my kaiser
22:25.57Marajinerm
22:26.08ginge:O
22:26.10Marajini've been to heathrow and I've been through london once while asleep in the back of a car
22:26.28gingeoh, well you saw it all then
22:26.29Marajinso basically
22:26.34Marajinheh :P
22:27.15gingeshit I just ran out of jiffy bags
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22:27.35gingemoving house has screwed my stock levels
22:30.21gingeO.o people do strange things. why order an 8 pin shell and 7 pins for it
22:30.38gingeI clearly state you need 8
22:30.49gingeand it adds 8 to the baskey
22:31.00gingegives up
22:31.10gingemoves south for winter
22:33.47Marajinheh
22:33.55Marajinnails Ginge's feet to the floor
22:34.01Marajinno sir, no you do not
22:34.09Marajinif you're cold, get some whiskey down your gullet
22:34.26gingemmmm whiskey
22:34.32Marajin...man garmin's system is painful
22:35.11Marajinwhy oh why do I have to install the maps to my PC, unlock the maps on that, then select which section of the maps I want and convert them and transfer them to the device, and then unlock them there too
22:35.31Marajinrather than say... the tomtom system of "put the files on the SD card"
22:35.35gingeso lets assume I got the audio device to register properly... what kernel ops do I need? ALSA?
22:35.46Marajinsounds sensible
22:35.57Marajinthough don't most of the embedded wossits use OSS for some insane reason?
22:36.04Marajin..wait we're on 2.6
22:36.10gingewho knows
22:36.11Marajinwe  CAN'T use OSS
22:36.17gingeyou can use emulation
22:36.28Marajinthat's use alsa with OSS emulation layer
22:36.29Marajinheh
22:36.42Marajinmay as well just use alsa
22:37.13Marajinheh, '0 seconds remaining' has been displayed for 3 minutes now
22:50.27dcordes_good night
22:59.07gingewimps
23:00.17Marajinyep
23:00.20gingedo we know what version of AMSS we have>
23:01.58Marajinginge: Off hand no
23:05.17gingewoo my phone now thinks its 17:40 I think the clocks must be different in WM and android
23:06.02Marajinginge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2484838 ?
23:06.16Marajinlooks like you can dice up the amss and have a play
23:06.29gingenice
23:06.48MarajinWell you can "load the AMSS to extra files and info"
23:06.56Marajinincluding what looks like product and version stuffs
23:07.55gingeaww dcordes man. he put that I got sound working in the readme. I heard a faint noise coming from the speaker and now sound works?
23:09.34Marajinginge: He does things like that, exhuberence of youth ;)
23:09.56Marajingot your tin helmet and nub poking stick at the ready?
23:09.57gingethis is gonna take weeks to get working, and thats at a fair pace
23:10.04gingeheh
23:11.00Marajinyou distract 'em, I'll lart them to the back of the head!
23:13.49gingethis could get annoying. Every time I boot android and reset back to WM I get the "GPS data out of date" thing
23:14.02gingerm -r RTC
23:24.18gingea minor improvement is moving to 2.6.26?
23:24.33gingethats hardly minor
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