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00:00.18 | OpnSrc1 | have you guys used trackdroid ? |
00:00.49 | OpnSrc1 | its a nice app installer for android. I've put that in my andorid-data.bin . |
00:01.08 | ginge | we are not amused with Android |
00:01.27 | Marajin | We're amused, we're just not content to use it ;) |
00:01.52 | ginge | doens't use enough ncurses |
00:01.59 | Marajin | definitely! |
00:02.12 | dcordes | OpnSrc1: yea the #android guys suggested that to herrio |
00:03.07 | ginge | have they said anything about a new sdk yet? |
00:03.32 | ginge | or another gui that doesnt suck |
00:04.03 | OpnSrc1 | Ok, I don't know who herrio is. one of #htc-linux ? here... |
00:04.14 | ginge | yeah |
00:04.15 | Marajin | herriojr who appears on here yeah |
00:05.40 | OpnSrc1 | gine: thats true but the kind of apps that are being developed is really good. |
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00:10.09 | dcordes | they will freak about audio |
00:10.21 | Marajin | let's not tell them! |
00:10.24 | dcordes | hrhrhr |
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00:11.32 | dcordes | don't be that harsh with them, they don't know better. |
00:11.41 | Marajin | So? :P |
00:11.53 | uplinked | anyone here with experience using a bluetooth PAN from linux, mind helping me figure out what's wrong? |
00:12.10 | uplinked | [for data tethering, that is] |
00:12.20 | dcordes | maybe they just don't know what they do is pointless because all sorts of apps are already present as open source software and that bloated guis are not useful on mobile phones |
00:13.21 | dcordes | we really need the ncurses phone and pim app to cure that |
00:14.29 | ginge | Marajin: seriously dont tell them |
00:14.43 | Marajin | ginge: Yeah it wasn't actually entirely joking ;) |
00:15.03 | ginge | Marajin: it aint ready and I don't need hassle :) |
00:15.14 | Marajin | ginge: You love the abuse! |
00:15.21 | dcordes | ginge: when is it done, when is it done? |
00:15.31 | ginge | heh |
00:15.35 | ginge | r ang.txt |
00:15.39 | Marajin | ~lart dcordes for begging |
00:15.39 | apt | blames dcordes for all the evil in the world for begging |
00:16.15 | OpnSrc1 | is there any way I can increase the font size on angstrom ? |
00:16.34 | ginge | I just realised I have 40MB of images on the NAND and it still boots |
00:16.53 | Marajin | ginge: Um so? |
00:17.06 | ginge | I thought you needed loads of free space to get it to boot |
00:17.12 | Marajin | nup.. |
00:17.33 | OpnSrc1 | zImage-2.6.25-pm |
00:17.57 | OpnSrc1 | is git tree updated with the changes to get 2.6.25 ..? |
00:18.02 | dcordes | -zImage-pm uploaded to bootkit, it has code to turn on/off the display. in android, press power button and select turn off display. |
00:18.16 | dcordes | -Barry ginge Carter ported the htc-msm (2.6.24) to android-msm-2.6.25, there will be htc-msm-2.6.25 in linuxtogo git soon. |
00:24.33 | ginge | right, I just wrote a class driver for proc_comm. now I am going to leave the phone dumping incrementing data to the proc_comm while I sleep |
00:26.56 | dcordes | ginge: tidiying up the todo/status list, it comes to my mind that the ts with the raw event patches and tslib (in the ts_test application) looks far more precise than in the android test app with the tsc2003.c in git. |
00:27.02 | dcordes | maybe that's any interesting |
00:27.24 | ginge | maybe. |
00:28.30 | dcordes | is it the jogwheel rotate or press or both that resets the gpios? |
00:28.43 | ginge | rotate any direction |
00:28.47 | dcordes | ok |
00:29.04 | ginge | I wrote that list in about 5 minutes, so its a little rough |
00:30.05 | ginge | I really just wanted to document the simple stuff to fix. I thought maybe people might be more confident doing little bits here and there. |
00:30.08 | dcordes | yea I'm sorting it a bit detailling things and sorting by priority and so |
00:32.06 | dcordes | ok then I will keep it like that |
00:32.45 | dcordes | and not add more complicated stuff |
00:33.11 | dcordes | where in the tree is cpu scaling realised? |
00:33.22 | dcordes | (I'm putting some hints on where is what) |
00:33.36 | ginge | dcordes: do you mean where is the code? |
00:33.55 | dcordes | yes |
00:34.09 | dcordes | kaiser-pm.c? |
00:34.21 | ginge | that does some parts, yes |
00:34.28 | ginge | mainly clocks.c |
00:34.46 | ginge | and clock-7x00.c |
00:39.18 | ginge | night all |
00:40.37 | dcordes | good night |
00:43.02 | ginge | hmm... one last bug report before I go... setting the RTC causes a kernel bug |
00:48.08 | dcordes | ok |
01:26.06 | dcordes | now the readme is formatted in openlolxmlformat |
01:26.20 | dcordes | based on the infamous lolcode |
01:27.17 | Marajin | dcordes: I may have to murder you now |
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01:36.35 | dcordes | NDA? |
01:36.53 | Marajin | Non Disclosure Agreement |
01:36.57 | dcordes | but I invented the openlolxmlformat on my own |
01:38.16 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/ubRHvb89.html |
01:38.28 | dcordes | can you check if you have something that needs to appear on those lists? |
01:38.51 | Marajin | I can check |
01:39.08 | dcordes | cool |
01:59.10 | dcordes | Marajin: found anything missing? |
02:06.05 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
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07:18.01 | BoaR | morning here |
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07:34.05 | BabelO_ | hi |
07:34.17 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so you don't need 2.6.26 ? |
07:34.38 | kiozen | BabelO_: au contraire, I am looking forward to it |
07:34.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :) |
07:35.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: BT is still wacky |
07:35.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it seem that you have to change a litle KConfig |
07:35.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: but with my patch less wacky, so i can go on with development of M |
07:36.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: can i do a zImage for you ? just to try ? |
07:36.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: sounds good for a 1st try |
07:37.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, let me found my patch first :) |
07:37.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol, look at he bottom of the coffee cup |
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07:47.25 | BoaR | anyone can tell me, what is mtn ? |
07:48.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/zImage |
07:48.40 | BabelO_ | BoaR: it is monotone |
07:48.51 | BoaR | thx |
07:48.51 | kiozen | BoaR: compiling OE? "monoton" |
07:49.08 | BoaR | yeah |
07:49.24 | BoaR | kiozen: i'll try |
07:49.34 | BoaR | i have magician |
07:52.04 | BoaR | mtn: misuse: database /home/novotny/OE/OE.mtn is laid out according to an old schema |
07:52.31 | BoaR | so i used mtn --db=/....OE.mnt db migrate |
07:54.19 | BoaR | is here anyone, who works with openmoko on magician ? |
07:57.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: does not work:( just a black screen |
07:58.46 | kiozen | BabelO: http://pastebin.ca/1169357 that is my default.txt |
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08:07.38 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but you see go go go, then a balck screen ? |
08:08.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: no screen just turns black |
08:08.22 | kiozen | BabelO_: but I cross check... |
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08:10.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: nothing to see |
08:10.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but you can't boot like thaht ? |
08:10.55 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you copy a .exe on device ? |
08:10.59 | BabelO_ | or the zImage ? |
08:11.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: I do a loadlin.exe |
08:11.20 | kiozen | linload.exe :) |
08:11.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah ok |
08:11.59 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is the setlcd4 command ? |
08:13.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: afaik switching of the lcd |
08:13.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: by that the kernel is able to assume a certain state |
08:13.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :) |
08:14.02 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and you did not see if usb0 come up so ? |
08:14.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, so i think i found the bug |
08:14.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: I couldn't connect with usb_gadget |
08:14.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: LCCR4, cr2 add it to definition |
08:15.11 | kiozen | BabelO_: I just remember he did something realy dirty |
08:15.26 | BoaR | how can i connect my magician wia usb ? |
08:15.38 | BoaR | when i plug it, nothing happens ... |
08:15.48 | BoaR | so i thing, that i need to turn on something ... |
08:16.01 | BoaR | on linux on magician |
08:16.07 | kiozen | BoaR: usb_gadget has to run on the device |
08:16.27 | BoaR | ok, i'll try it ... |
08:16.35 | BoaR | some extra parameters ? |
08:17.01 | kiozen | BoaR: and you have to make an entry in /etc/network/interfaces |
08:17.10 | kiozen | BoaR: for usb0 |
08:17.15 | BoaR | ok |
08:17.39 | BoaR | but when i plug magician into linux pc, i can nothing see in dmesg ... |
08:17.44 | BoaR | no device is created |
08:17.55 | kiozen | BoaR: you should see something |
08:18.03 | BoaR | on desktop nothing |
08:18.11 | BoaR | some on magician.... |
08:18.18 | BoaR | w8, i'll boot. |
08:18.31 | BoaR | whis onw |
08:18.32 | BoaR | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/tmp/ |
08:18.36 | BoaR | thos one |
08:18.51 | kiozen | something like that on the pc http://pastebin.ca/1169375 |
08:19.13 | BoaR | kiozen: no, nothing |
08:19.22 | BoaR | i thing, that i need to start some in mobile .. |
08:19.23 | BabelO_ | kiozen: same place, with the dirty hack :) |
08:23.09 | BoaR | kiozen: what do kernel parameter -boot ? |
08:26.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: disabled the lcd off |
08:26.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: it prints 5 lines |
08:26.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: and than the lcd fades off |
08:26.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no, i just insert the cr2 patch into the new kernel |
08:28.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: last line is "Jumping top kernel..." |
08:28.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
08:28.54 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so you try with newer zImage i upload 5 min ago ? |
08:28.56 | BoaR | kiozen: ok, u connect via usb, and nothing happens |
08:29.07 | BoaR | i try /etc/init.d/usb-gadget ... |
08:29.12 | BoaR | and still nothing |
08:29.25 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes, sure |
08:29.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :( |
08:29.34 | BoaR | in /etc/network/interface there is line for usb0 |
08:29.36 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no more idea then |
08:29.38 | BoaR | some like usb 0 auto |
08:29.41 | BoaR | (on device |
08:29.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but in this one, i build usb0 |
08:32.56 | kiozen | BoaR: I do something like this on the device http://pastebin.ca/1169390 |
08:33.05 | BoaR | kiozen: thx ... |
08:33.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: it looks like it fails jumping into the kernel |
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08:33.49 | BoaR | kiozen: i dont thiong, that problem is here ... |
08:33.58 | BoaR | i have no device io my desktop ... |
08:34.24 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah :( |
08:34.37 | BoaR | so when i plug usb in, on magician in dmesg: |
08:34.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: can you try standard haret + zImage N |
08:34.49 | BabelO_ | ? |
08:36.09 | BoaR | egpio set: reg 2 = 0x00b1 |
08:37.52 | BoaR | kiozen: is possible to connect it via BT ? |
08:38.26 | kiozen | BoaR: never tried bt connect, I just use bt for gps |
08:38.32 | BoaR | ok |
08:38.37 | BoaR | so how can i start bt ? |
08:40.53 | BoaR | what is name of bt device ? |
08:42.00 | kiozen | BoaR: don't know how it is done on your device |
08:42.03 | kiozen | BoaR: |
08:42.15 | BoaR | ok |
08:42.18 | kiozen | BoaR: ususally you have to call hciattach first |
08:42.48 | BoaR | cool |
08:42.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: tried haret with running default_n560.txt |
08:43.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: still "jumping to kernel" but screen does not fade :) |
08:43.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is default_n560.txt ? |
08:43.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: the one I pastebined |
08:45.05 | BoaR | kiozen: ok, so hciconfig takes no device ... |
08:45.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but it is wrong to boot directly |
08:46.32 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, you mean the last line? |
08:46.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/blueangel/qtopia/startup.txt |
08:47.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok i try .. |
08:50.24 | BoaR | kiozen: do i need to take some parameters to usb_gadgets ? |
08:52.14 | kiozen | BoaR: no, just usb-gadget |
08:53.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: should I disable this RAMADDR stuff? |
08:53.46 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no keep it |
08:53.53 | BoaR | kiozen: ok |
08:53.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: should be in the kernel too |
08:54.03 | BoaR | kiozen: but after i ru int, nothing happens ... |
08:54.18 | BoaR | and ps -aux |gerp usb shows me only ksuspend_usbd |
08:54.33 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, same behavior, "jump..." screen fades off |
08:55.33 | BoaR | ah .... |
08:55.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: poor :( i miss something then |
08:55.58 | BoaR | pxa2xx-udc: There are error in configuration, udc dissable |
08:56.48 | kiozen | BabelO_: it's not that easy to follow cr2's mind ;) |
08:57.10 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no :( |
08:57.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i don't understand what i miss |
08:58.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: we should release some hounds to track him on his vacation :D |
08:58.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: need to buy a satellite internet connection for him :) |
08:59.13 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes,yes !! |
08:59.31 | kiozen | BabelO_: uplink to cr2's brain |
09:00.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i don't understand, i reactivate the LCCR4 stuff, DRAM_BASE too but you still got the black screen, and no usb gadget detect ... |
09:00.35 | kiozen | BabelO_: imho it still does not load the kernel |
09:10.58 | BoaR | hey |
09:10.59 | BoaR | mtn: 4.0 M | 1.3 M | 2,227/3,941 | 554/980 |
09:10.59 | BoaR | mtn: error: I/O failure while talking to peer monotone.openembedded.org, disconnecting |
09:11.02 | BoaR | :-( |
09:18.00 | BoaR | ph5 :-) |
09:18.03 | BoaR | i need you :-) |
09:18.36 | BoaR | does he have a jabber ? |
09:19.44 | BoaR | where is config of openmoko ? |
09:19.55 | BoaR | i need to add openmoko-keyboard application |
09:20.06 | BoaR | cause it sometimes falls ... |
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09:40.19 | get | apt hi |
09:40.19 | apt | hello, get |
09:40.23 | get | ;) |
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09:43.09 | BoaR | atpt? |
09:43.24 | BoaR | apt ? get ? :-) |
09:44.05 | kiozen | ~lart BoaR |
09:44.05 | apt | nukes BoaR with a single large nuke |
09:44.11 | kiozen | :) |
09:44.53 | kiozen | but it can do more usefull things like that, too |
09:45.47 | BoaR | :-) |
09:48.34 | BoaR | what is pxa2xx-udc ? |
09:49.16 | tmzt_mp900c | usb device |
09:50.52 | BoaR | yeah |
09:51.39 | BoaR | cool |
09:51.47 | BoaR | when i am trying to modprobe g_ether |
09:51.57 | BoaR | in dmesg i found errro: |
09:52.24 | BoaR | pxa2xx-udc: there are error in configuration, udc disabled |
09:53.35 | tmzt_mp900c | what does lsusb -v -v on the host (computer) say about the device? |
09:54.33 | BoaR | nothing |
09:55.18 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: device not attach to computer ... |
09:55.25 | BoaR | nothig nappens in dmesg |
09:56.27 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: problem is on mobile device |
09:56.28 | BoaR | magician |
09:56.48 | tmzt_mp900c | I know, but this is the usb port for connecting to a computer so it won't work if not connected |
09:57.05 | tmzt_mp900c | it's trying to configure a usb client without a host |
09:57.37 | tmzt_mp900c | I think it should only be configured if it detects it is plugged in |
09:58.01 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have any other g_ modules loaded? |
09:58.06 | tmzt_mp900c | or builtin |
09:58.12 | BoaR | no |
09:58.15 | BoaR | i have g_serial |
09:58.18 | BoaR | g_ether |
09:58.34 | tmzt_mp900c | try removing one of them and plug in to the computer |
09:58.42 | BoaR | file storage |
09:58.50 | BoaR | and gadgetfs |
09:58.51 | BoaR | ok |
09:59.17 | tmzt_mp900c | I believe that pxa can only support one configuration at least wm requires you to unplug the device when changing from network to modem or whatever |
09:59.41 | BoaR | usb 4-1: device not accepting address 32, error -71 |
09:59.41 | BoaR | usb 4-1: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 33 |
09:59.41 | BoaR | usb 4-1: device not accepting address 33, error -71 |
09:59.41 | BoaR | hub 4-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 |
09:59.56 | BoaR | it is dmesg from desktop |
10:00.15 | tmzt_mp900c | which module do you have now g_ ? |
10:01.01 | BoaR | noone |
10:01.23 | tmzt_mp900c | load g_ether, but not g_serial, g_storage, etc. |
10:01.24 | BoaR | i unload it before pluf |
10:01.27 | BoaR | ok |
10:01.54 | BoaR | when i load it, and then write dmesg, |
10:01.59 | BoaR | i found that erro in dmesg |
10:02.09 | BoaR | there is some like: |
10:02.12 | tmzt_mp900c | load it and plug it in |
10:02.19 | BoaR | usb0: MAC .... |
10:02.29 | BoaR | USB0: host mac .... |
10:02.34 | tmzt_mp900c | ok, ifconfig usb0 IPADDR |
10:02.39 | BoaR | USB0: RNDIS ready |
10:02.42 | tmzt_mp900c | on device and host |
10:03.02 | BoaR | PXA2XX-udc: there are error in configuration |
10:03.05 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have any rndis modules loaded on device? |
10:03.13 | BoaR | magician_udec_command(0) |
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10:04.17 | tgreer | hey people |
10:04.42 | BoaR | udc: USB RESET |
10:04.47 | BoaR | here i see problem |
10:04.48 | BoaR | i thing |
10:05.18 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: hey |
10:05.49 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: i have no USB0 on desktop |
10:05.58 | tmzt_mp900c | ifconfig usb0 up |
10:06.14 | tmzt_mp900c | but I think you have old g_ether and rndis, don't think both will work |
10:06.19 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: problem is in connecting |
10:06.23 | tgreer | i was just wondering if someone could remind me what to set my default.txt to to use the rootfs on my memorycard>? |
10:06.42 | tmzt_mp900c | what partition is it on? |
10:06.52 | tgreer | 2? |
10:06.56 | BoaR | set KERNEL zImage |
10:06.56 | BoaR | set CMDLINE "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 console=tty0 rootdelay=1 -usb" |
10:06.56 | BoaR | bootlinux |
10:07.06 | BoaR | my default.txt , from magician |
10:07.13 | tgreer | thanks |
10:07.17 | tmzt_mp900c | BoaR you don't have that -usb do you? |
10:07.22 | tmzt_mp900c | what's that for |
10:07.31 | BoaR | rootfs is 2nd partition |
10:07.40 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: just for testing ... i found on some discussion ... |
10:07.52 | tmzt_mp900c | cat /proc/cmdline |
10:08.01 | BoaR | i know :-) |
10:08.05 | BoaR | no it is turned on ... |
10:08.10 | BoaR | so w8, for reboot |
10:08.17 | BoaR | btw. can i use some like nosplash ? |
10:08.19 | BoaR | in boot ? |
10:08.29 | tmzt_mp900c | don't know, maybe |
10:08.37 | tmzt_mp900c | does it use psplash? |
10:08.49 | tgreer | :/ |
10:08.53 | tmzt_mp900c | is this qtopia? |
10:09.04 | tgreer | FAT: unable to read boot sector ... |
10:09.12 | tgreer | its it maybe p1? |
10:09.16 | tgreer | n fat is p0? |
10:09.44 | tmzt_mp900c | the fat thing might be ok, shouldn't it be ext2? |
10:09.54 | tgreer | it is |
10:09.56 | tgreer | lol |
10:09.56 | tmzt_mp900c | more rootdelay=5 |
10:10.03 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: no, openmoko |
10:10.21 | BoaR | on Ã
ngström |
10:10.28 | BoaR | Angstrom |
10:10.30 | tmzt_mp900c | removing things from /etc/init.d/ should work, like bootsplash, nodm, whatever |
10:10.39 | BoaR | thx |
10:11.23 | BoaR | yeah, there is psplash |
10:11.34 | tgreer | Warning: Unable to open initial console |
10:11.34 | tgreer | :s |
10:11.39 | BoaR | cool, so psplash=false |
10:12.07 | tmzt_mp900c | tgreer: it's stuck there? |
10:12.12 | tgreer | na past it |
10:12.20 | tgreer | still bitchin about unable to open partition |
10:12.24 | tgreer | is the first partition p0 |
10:12.27 | tgreer | or p1 ? |
10:12.34 | tmzt_mp900c | don't think so but can't check |
10:13.18 | tmzt_mp900c | there should only be as many devices in /dev as there are partitions if udev is working |
10:13.22 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: first should bve p1 |
10:13.46 | BoaR | tgreer: and in boot, u can see some like |
10:13.47 | tmzt_mp900c | right, mmcblk0 mmcblk0p1 mmcblk0p2 |
10:13.51 | BoaR | mmcblk0 |
10:13.53 | BoaR | p1 |
10:13.54 | BoaR | p2 |
10:13.58 | tmzt_mp900c | the first is the whole card |
10:14.00 | tgreer | mmcblk0: p1 p2 |
10:14.09 | BoaR | tgreer: yeah thats it |
10:14.14 | tmzt_mp900c | did you add more rootdelay? |
10:14.17 | tgreer | feck lol |
10:14.19 | tgreer | yeh 10 |
10:14.24 | tgreer | but also changed the partition to p1 |
10:14.30 | tgreer | so its trying to boot my fat partition lol |
10:14.32 | tmzt_mp900c | should be p2 |
10:14.57 | tmzt_mp900c | rootdelay=5 should be enough |
10:14.59 | tgreer | *dances to german europop trance* |
10:15.05 | tmzt_mp900c | since you need to reboot |
10:15.28 | tgreer | *fetched tomtom maps* |
10:16.25 | BoaR | cool |
10:16.38 | BoaR | rebooted, without -usb in kernel parameters |
10:16.52 | tgreer | Warning: Unable to open an inital console |
10:17.07 | tgreer | FAT:ubale to read boot sector |
10:17.15 | tmzt_mp900c | that's the initramfs I think |
10:17.18 | BoaR | tgreer: so u are booting from fat partition |
10:17.22 | tgreer | no ... |
10:17.27 | tgreer | booting from the ext2 partition |
10:17.40 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have ext2 built into kernel? |
10:17.47 | tgreer | meh after al that it gets me to a login prompt |
10:17.47 | tgreer | ROFL |
10:18.04 | tmzt_mp900c | login like login: ? |
10:18.36 | tgreer | yeh |
10:18.37 | tgreer | lol |
10:18.51 | tmzt_mp900c | login in as root |
10:18.56 | tgreer | i did heh |
10:19.51 | tmzt_mp900c | the root delay only needs to be long enough to get the mmcblk0: p1 p2 line before it gives up |
10:20.20 | get | hey ppl |
10:20.29 | tmzt_mp900c | apt is a bot |
10:21.04 | get | if i install gizard on s200 did it work as telephone as well or only as pda? |
10:21.14 | tmzt_mp900c | install what |
10:21.23 | tmzt_mp900c | what is the htc name for s200? |
10:21.35 | get | prophet |
10:21.48 | get | htc prophet |
10:21.50 | tmzt_mp900c | and "gizard"? |
10:21.51 | get | qtek s200 |
10:21.55 | get | http://tinderbox.x86.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/gizard-20080602.tar.bz2 |
10:21.57 | get | this |
10:22.08 | tgreer | gentoo ---eewwwww |
10:22.09 | tgreer | lol |
10:22.15 | tmzt_mp900c | I don't know about that one, but it's omap? |
10:22.29 | get | is tehre any other choice as thisone? |
10:22.37 | get | for this phone? |
10:22.47 | tmzt_mp900c | look on xda wiki for Prophet |
10:22.58 | tmzt_mp900c | xda-developers.com |
10:23.02 | tmzt_mp900c | wiki.xda-developers.com |
10:23.04 | get | runs |
10:24.02 | tgreer | so can someone remind me how i initiate a ppp session? |
10:24.09 | tgreer | cant remember the location of the script |
10:24.14 | tmzt_mp900c | with desktop or gsm? |
10:24.21 | tgreer | n seeing as locate n updatedb aint commands |
10:24.22 | tmzt_mp900c | what device is it? |
10:24.23 | tgreer | gsm |
10:24.25 | tgreer | kaiser |
10:24.28 | tgreer | tytn II |
10:24.32 | tgreer | p4550 |
10:24.39 | get | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2352914#post2352914 |
10:24.40 | tgreer | mda vario III |
10:24.41 | tmzt_mp900c | there was a script |
10:24.42 | get | it is this one |
10:24.48 | get | same as i post below |
10:24.56 | get | above* |
10:25.01 | tmzt_mp900c | are you using rootfs from dcordes bootkit? |
10:25.31 | tgreer | i'm using tgreer-special-rootfs.tar.gz he uploaded for me |
10:25.41 | tgreer | basically his rootfs |
10:26.02 | tmzt_mp900c | his script might be in there, but you need your APN/inits in /etc/init1 /etc/init2 |
10:26.14 | tmzt_mp900c | can't remeber what it's called though |
10:27.52 | tgreer | /usr/bin/ppp.sh |
10:28.08 | tgreer | damn |
10:28.09 | tgreer | its not in this |
10:28.33 | tmzt_mp900c | no initmodem or something? |
10:29.13 | tgreer | the script i mentioned above doesnt exist lol |
10:29.17 | tgreer | dcordes!!!!!1 |
10:29.37 | tmzt_mp900c | he should be back in a few hours |
10:29.51 | tgreer | how do u get a pipe in angstrom? |
10:29.54 | tgreer | <PROTECTED> |
10:30.04 | tmzt_mp900c | might try android thread t=396782 |
10:30.20 | tmzt_mp900c | they setup the modem before starting android |
10:30.35 | tmzt_mp900c | do you have \ on camera? |
10:31.21 | tgreer | yes |
10:31.34 | tmzt_mp900c | shift-\ uparrow thing on right of keyboard |
10:32.04 | tgreer | shift \ done it :) |
10:32.30 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes didn't know about that for a while and had to work around it |
10:32.39 | tgreer | fail :P |
10:32.55 | tgreer | so who's the genius behind kaiser linux? |
10:32.58 | tgreer | /angstrom |
10:33.20 | tmzt_mp900c | ginge?, but the msm stuff is all dzo who made it work first |
10:33.50 | tmzt_mp900c | angstrom is older, and based on openembedded which was openzaurus |
10:34.02 | tgreer | does init 6 reboot the kaiser? |
10:34.14 | tmzt_mp900c | familiar was a dec/compaq/hp thing |
10:34.26 | tmzt_mp900c | it might if init is setup right |
10:34.34 | tmzt_mp900c | or reboot |
10:34.55 | tgreer | stuck 2 Rebooting... _ |
10:35.02 | tgreer | *stuck @ |
10:35.30 | tmzt_mp900c | might not work, just press the reset |
10:35.53 | tmzt_mp900c | they are working on power management, don't know which kernel (zImage) you have though |
10:36.52 | tgreer | the one in the kaiser-bootkit |
10:36.55 | tgreer | folder |
10:37.22 | tmzt_mp900c | yeah, but still don't know what he has in there, 2.6.24/25/26? |
10:37.33 | tmzt_mp900c | doesn't matter though |
10:37.44 | tgreer | bit late, rebooted :P |
10:41.54 | tgreer | fudgin OSX |
10:42.57 | BoaR | so is somewhere working magician linux ? |
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10:44.47 | tgreer | :( SDHC cards melt my hands :( |
10:45.49 | tgreer | fuckin HUGE bee in my room :( |
10:47.39 | tmzt_mp900c | BoaR: is usb working now? |
10:47.47 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: no |
10:47.48 | tmzt_mp900c | what are you trying to do? |
10:47.58 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: dont' know |
10:48.19 | tmzt_mp900c | what modules g_ rndis_ are loaded? |
10:48.27 | BoaR | i thing, i need kernel-module-pxa2xx-udc |
10:48.39 | tmzt_mp900c | should be built in |
10:48.48 | tmzt_mp900c | if you got error messages before |
10:50.30 | BoaR | another problem ... i got sms ... |
10:50.48 | BoaR | but when i am trying to read it, openmoko-messaging segfault |
10:51.00 | tmzt_mp900c | is gsmd running? |
10:51.03 | BoaR | yeah |
10:51.10 | BoaR | i press sms |
10:51.18 | BoaR | i see unknown sender |
10:51.21 | BoaR | 14 unread |
10:51.22 | BoaR | 0 read |
10:51.45 | BoaR | and when i press middle button, it shows me messags for a second, and dhetn segfault |
10:52.04 | BoaR | can i move it into pc, and read it here ? |
10:52.07 | tmzt_mp900c | these things aren't very stable, but you would need debugging support to find out why it segfaults |
10:52.25 | BoaR | yeah i kno |
10:52.34 | BoaR | but is possible to move it somewhere ? |
10:52.45 | tmzt_mp900c | I don't think you can right now, is it on the sim card? |
10:52.52 | BoaR | i now, that messages are not on card, |
10:53.03 | BoaR | yeah, it could be ... :-) |
10:53.07 | tmzt_mp900c | can you copy it to sim from om? |
10:53.12 | BoaR | i'll take a look |
10:53.19 | tmzt_mp900c | might have to use wm to read it right now |
10:53.26 | BoaR | yeah |
10:53.30 | BoaR | ok thx |
10:54.00 | BoaR | ok about usb ... |
10:54.17 | BoaR | i have loaded |
10:54.19 | BoaR | g-ether |
10:54.47 | tmzt_mp900c | is rndis_client loaded? |
10:54.54 | BoaR | no |
10:55.04 | tmzt_mp900c | so no other g_ modules are loaded |
10:55.05 | BoaR | i have no *rnd* in /lib/modules/.... |
10:55.13 | BoaR | yeah, only g_ether is loaded |
10:55.28 | tmzt_mp900c | plugging it in to computer gives you what |
10:55.53 | tmzt_mp900c | was the MAC address blank before? |
10:56.18 | BoaR | in computer nothing ... |
10:56.33 | BoaR | in magician: |
10:56.44 | BoaR | egpio set: reg 2 = 0x00b1 |
10:57.47 | BoaR | i thing, that problem is in usb-gadget ... |
10:58.11 | BoaR | and/or in g_ether |
10:58.23 | tmzt_mp900c | you got MAC message before, but not now? |
10:58.36 | tmzt_mp900c | ifconfig usb0 IPADDR on device |
10:58.51 | BoaR | i got MAC when i modprobe g_ether |
10:59.18 | BoaR | usb0 have ip, have MAC ... |
10:59.28 | BoaR | on device |
11:00.50 | BoaR | i'll try another linux image ... |
11:04.38 | get | hey |
11:04.59 | get | triyn to boot on p3300 |
11:05.09 | tgreer | damn OSX |
11:05.26 | tgreer | trying to copy the new zImage to my memorycard |
11:05.30 | get | and it hangs on loading kernel |
11:06.06 | get | where i have to copy the exe and the bz2 ? |
11:06.25 | get | for the p3300? into mcard or to the phone directly? |
11:06.32 | get | *phone/pda |
11:07.01 | BoaR | get: phonecard |
11:07.08 | BoaR | u have to have 2 partitions |
11:07.17 | get | aha |
11:07.28 | get | the memorycard you mean? |
11:07.31 | BoaR | 1 fat, with loader.exe (or similiar) and with zImage |
11:07.49 | BoaR | and 2nd with ext2 partition, with root fs |
11:07.53 | BoaR | yeah on memory card |
11:08.10 | get | aha |
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11:08.25 | get | ive just putted the exe and the bz2 into the memcard and fired the .exe |
11:08.34 | get | so then its normal i see |
11:08.49 | get | so i have to make partitions |
11:08.53 | BoaR | get: :-) |
11:09.04 | BoaR | hehe u need .gz unzipp into ext2 partition |
11:09.07 | tgreer | new kernel is brighter :D |
11:09.23 | tgreer | /more readable |
11:09.25 | get | damn the minisdcard is HC |
11:09.37 | get | is there any pocketpc partitioner? |
11:09.41 | tgreer | na |
11:09.49 | tgreer | i've been hunting for months |
11:09.53 | tgreer | not got a card reader? |
11:10.03 | get | yes but no HC |
11:10.27 | tgreer | ah |
11:10.32 | get | 4gb HC kingston |
11:10.46 | tgreer | 8gb sdhc sandisk :) |
11:11.32 | tgreer | found dcordes ppp.sh |
11:11.40 | tgreer | ~/ppp.sh |
11:13.34 | BoaR | is possible boot linux on magician another way, than feom wm ? |
11:13.44 | BoaR | i hate hardreset stuf .. when rebooting linux |
11:13.55 | tgreer | xda devs just nosedive? |
11:14.23 | tgreer | Safari canât open the page âhttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=72â because it canât find the server âforum.xda-developers.comâ. |
11:14.42 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c: yeah |
11:14.58 | tgreer | FAIL!! |
11:15.06 | tgreer | cos its not on my box :P |
11:15.09 | BoaR | looks like xda dev ar down |
11:15.58 | tgreer | gaarhh |
11:17.39 | tgreer | i was in the middle of readin a thread lol |
11:19.16 | BoaR | tmzt_mp900c:-) |
11:22.39 | BoaR | http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:4I0SMishDtQJ:forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D404145+http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php%3Ft%3D396782&hl=cs&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=cz&client=firefox-a |
11:22.45 | BoaR | tgreer: will this help ? |
11:23.18 | tgreer | not really.. thats for hermes :P |
11:23.21 | tgreer | but thanks |
11:23.45 | tgreer | brb |
11:25.02 | BoaR | is somewhere boot.log ? |
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11:58.44 | tgreer | back |
12:06.04 | BoaR | tgreer: xda works again |
12:06.10 | tgreer | superb, thanks |
12:09.54 | tgreer | *kicks seeders up n down the internet* |
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12:57.32 | get | is off, bnc on |
12:57.59 | tgreer | cya |
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14:06.36 | Marajin | mergh |
14:11.47 | tgreer_ | hey people |
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15:27.41 | kiozen | BabelO_: minor bug fixes and bitching around with bt |
15:27.50 | kiozen | BabelO_: gps source setup |
15:28.11 | kiozen | BabelO_: backlight control (manual/ timeout) |
15:28.20 | kiozen | BabelO_: timezone settings |
15:28.36 | kiozen | BabelO_: think that's it :) |
15:31.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i did not found where cr2 change kernel to boot n560, don't know what i need to do, maybe Marex have an idea, i ll ask him later |
15:33.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, as said, my fixes make it from being 100% unusable to something like 70% usable, thus no rush |
15:33.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: but stable bt is still important |
15:34.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: I hope cr2 ever manages to fix battery support and resume |
15:35.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: those things missing is a real show stoper |
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17:30.21 | Marajin | 'lo ginge |
17:30.35 | ginge | yoyo |
17:31.08 | Marajin | where?! damn kids! |
17:31.14 | ginge | heh |
17:33.26 | Marajin | Shoot the bastards! |
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17:43.30 | tgreer | hey all |
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18:19.55 | tgreer | o/ |
18:24.17 | BabelO | kiozen |
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18:49.53 | BabelO | kiozen: pm |
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19:06.39 | Marajin | 'lo dcordes |
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19:06.54 | tgreer | dcordes!!!!!!!!! |
19:07.02 | tgreer | *hugs* |
19:07.11 | Marajin | ok now I'm worries |
19:07.13 | Marajin | *worried |
19:07.16 | tgreer | heh |
19:07.26 | tgreer | thanks to dcordes i have workin linux on kaiser :D |
19:07.36 | tgreer | just ppp = fail heh |
19:07.41 | dcordes | lol thanks to me!?!? |
19:07.42 | dcordes | hi all |
19:07.50 | Marajin | working linux yay, dead ppp boo |
19:07.51 | dcordes | barks |
19:07.53 | dcordes | wouf owuf |
19:08.01 | tgreer | the rootfs u gave me |
19:08.11 | dcordes | ah so you got your sd? |
19:08.14 | Marajin | Jesus, I knew the people were odd in germany but I never knew they had bizarre dogs |
19:08.22 | tgreer | oh n thanks for telling me you relocated the ppp.sh script lol |
19:08.56 | tgreer | also using 2.6.25 bin :) |
19:09.14 | dcordes | Marajin: the beagle board really is a bizarre little doggy |
19:09.57 | dcordes | I hope my brother has an hdmi->dvi cable available for me |
19:10.16 | tgreer | dcordes: remind me who i install an ipk? |
19:10.21 | Marajin | dcordes: I have one actually. |
19:10.30 | Marajin | dcordes: but you're a bit far to just drop it round heh |
19:10.35 | Marajin | anyway, I go for fooood |
19:10.48 | tgreer | so like |
19:10.56 | tgreer | my new iphone is gonna be my phone phone |
19:11.04 | tgreer | and my kaiser is gonna be by tinkering phone :) |
19:11.30 | dcordes | my jet is in the garage for service |
19:11.35 | dcordes | but thanks Marajin |
19:11.39 | tgreer | who does the kb mapping? |
19:12.21 | tgreer | cos i wanna make a suggestion, again |
19:13.04 | tgreer | n ~/ppp.sh fails dcordes :P |
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19:17.33 | dcordes | sry needed to grab a fine beer |
19:17.46 | dcordes | tgreer: marbalon is the keyoad driver author |
19:17.58 | tgreer | ah kk |
19:18.08 | tgreer | wrats he/she aint here |
19:18.12 | dcordes | find his email in arch/arm/mach-msm/board-kaiser-keypad.c <- that filename is odd |
19:18.43 | dcordes | a) it should be htckaiser b) keypad is misleading, it sound like it's only the front keypad. |
19:19.23 | dcordes | tgreer: ppp.sh fails because you specify wrong account info. |
19:19.26 | dcordes | most certainly |
19:19.29 | tgreer | :( |
19:19.43 | tgreer | says its connected fine but ifconfig shows nout |
19:19.45 | dcordes | because it worked on my kaiser, I tar.gzipped it directly off the sd! |
19:19.46 | tgreer | well lo only |
19:19.55 | dcordes | yea it always says that |
19:19.55 | tgreer | changed hostname |
19:20.03 | dcordes | also if you have a typo or wrong info |
19:20.17 | tgreer | cannot however change my password cos theres an feckin 8char limit on it lol |
19:20.32 | dcordes | pebcam, where did you look it up? |
19:21.27 | dcordes | where is an 8 char limit? |
19:21.36 | tgreer | is there a way of specifing no user n password for ppp.sh? |
19:21.48 | tgreer | seeing as my phone says: oranginternet no user no pass |
19:23.34 | tgreer | dcordes: is thre a way of overwriting the 8char limit for passwd? |
19:24.04 | dcordes | tgreer: for my provider, user and pass don't matter, so I type "./ppp.sh web.vodafone.de your mom" |
19:24.14 | tgreer | ah kk |
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19:25.26 | tgreer | correct info no luck |
19:27.48 | dcordes | you're 100% on the apn? |
19:28.16 | tgreer | yup |
19:28.21 | tgreer | tried 3 diff names as well |
19:28.30 | tgreer | n i know cos i nicked it from the settins in WM |
19:28.39 | tgreer | orangeinternet |
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19:33.48 | dcordes | tgreer: maybe it will fail after you typed it 1x wrong afterwards? |
19:34.35 | tgreer | *shrugs |
19:34.40 | tgreer | back to wm for now |
19:34.44 | tgreer | got calls n texts to make |
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20:04.54 | Marajin | dcordes: A fine beer is a fine idea! ANd thus I go to locate such an item. I'm not sure I have much but I think there's at least a hoegaarden secreted somewhere |
20:07.44 | dcordes | I have a crate of wheat beer |
20:10.01 | Marajin | well yes but they are 1.25l bottles dcordes so |
20:10.07 | Marajin | crate no, but big bottles yes |
20:12.13 | dcordes | het lekkere hoegaarden |
20:13.05 | Marajin | heh |
20:13.32 | dcordes | I like heineken beer very much |
20:13.51 | dcordes | when it comes to netherland's beers |
20:14.13 | Marajin | .. silly man |
20:15.54 | dcordes | you don't? |
20:16.11 | Marajin | so wait, het lekkere? you're saying it's a little flat? |
20:17.02 | dcordes | I don't know I can't speak nl |
20:17.14 | Marajin | it's not that different from german sometimes |
20:17.19 | Marajin | some words are identical even |
20:18.56 | Marajin | I think lekkere means flat though like.. deflated, without gas in it |
20:19.11 | dcordes | lekker |
20:19.12 | dcordes | adv. deliciously, with a wonderful taste or smell |
20:19.37 | dcordes | het |
20:19.38 | dcordes | pron. it |
20:19.39 | Marajin | It'd make sense from lecker I gues |
20:20.15 | dcordes | yea the funny thing for a german person is, lekker is used more globally than lecker I think |
20:20.23 | dcordes | not only for foodstuffs |
20:20.59 | Marajin | yeah it's used in english beyond food too |
20:21.11 | Marajin | delicious can describe people and such too |
20:21.57 | Marajin | The exact meaning has morphed over time tho' |
20:22.09 | Marajin | used to be it meant like.. they were just a nice and sweet person |
20:22.17 | Marajin | now it's more that they're physically attractive |
20:22.33 | dcordes | interesting |
20:22.57 | Marajin | yeah |
20:24.29 | dcordes | I can't wait to get my hdmi->dvi |
20:24.38 | Marajin | sighs as code starts to blur in front of his eyes. |
20:24.44 | Marajin | Damnitall I'm too tired |
20:25.04 | dcordes | what are you coding? |
20:25.12 | Marajin | Some DB app |
20:25.18 | Marajin | Nothing really relevant to htc-linux |
20:25.47 | dcordes | and you dare name it in here then :P |
20:26.00 | Marajin | I dare name anything here |
20:26.04 | Marajin | whatcha gonna do about it eh? :P |
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20:41.23 | oni | preved rus |
20:41.25 | oni | =) |
20:41.51 | dcordes | yo |
20:42.31 | spbvac | hi oni |
20:42.36 | oni | ) |
20:42.59 | spbvac | mirc and windows sucks ;-) |
20:43.37 | spbvac | are there any news about linux for diamond ? |
20:44.10 | dcordes | spbvac: not that I know of |
20:44.19 | dcordes | you must ask one of the gurus |
20:44.32 | dcordes | maybe xda wiki has some info on fb location and so |
20:44.52 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondMemoryMap |
20:44.58 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=DiamondResearch |
20:45.39 | dcordes | 0x1666a000 FBRAM |
20:45.41 | spbvac | dcordes: thanks |
20:45.56 | oni | and for htc tytn? |
20:46.24 | dcordes | oh nyce 0x01f00000 is smem, same as msm7200. get it booting and make calls. |
20:46.34 | dcordes | with kaiser/polaris kernel |
20:46.52 | dcordes | spbvac: find info on it here http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt |
20:46.54 | spbvac | ok, i should try tomorrow |
20:47.11 | Marajin | dcordes: aha, after years I am still the master of SQL though :p |
20:47.19 | dcordes | I don't know what to do to change fb location and so, I only know it needs to be done |
20:47.23 | dcordes | because cr2 said it |
20:47.40 | dcordes | spbvac: you can also comapre the diamond memory map to kaiser one (KaiserMemomryMap) |
20:48.09 | dcordes | so you get hints what to change from kaiser/polaris configuration to get to diam |
20:48.16 | spbvac | dcordes: i am reading the kaiser wiki pages now. |
20:48.23 | dcordes | Marajin: I can't even do proper bash code |
20:48.32 | Marajin | dcordes: You're yet young! |
20:48.41 | dcordes | I'm not going to become a coder |
20:48.47 | dcordes | at least not professional one |
20:49.06 | Marajin | professional coders can't code! |
20:49.11 | Marajin | they just headbutt the keyboard |
20:49.19 | dcordes | oni: for tytn 2 (kaiser) see linuxtogo link |
20:49.22 | spbvac | lol |
20:49.51 | Marajin | but every geek must be forged in the fires of coding! |
20:49.53 | oni | tytn 1, not t2 |
20:49.59 | spbvac | oni: tytn is another name for hermes ? |
20:50.04 | dcordes | I think so |
20:50.05 | oni | yes |
20:50.07 | Marajin | yes TyTn is the herme |
20:50.11 | Marajin | +s |
20:50.16 | dcordes | Marajin has one |
20:50.17 | oni | hermes) |
20:50.19 | Marajin | I do |
20:50.22 | Marajin | so does Ginge |
20:50.24 | Marajin | but he broke his |
20:50.28 | dcordes | and cr2 |
20:50.32 | Marajin | yes cr2 has one |
20:52.30 | Marajin | oni: Basically you're a bit in trouble with the hermes unless you're down for low level developing of it |
20:52.58 | Marajin | oni: the SD is a major question mark on the hermes leading people to be fairly uninterested in progressing the port |
20:53.00 | oni | =\ |
20:53.41 | Marajin | I think there's keyboard and framebuffer working and maybe nearly working NAND but really it's nowhere near as usable as many other devices |
20:55.10 | Marajin | oni: Anyway, Cr2 is probably the most knowledgeable about the hermes who tends to be active at all |
20:55.36 | Marajin | of course it's fitting that cr2 is not here right now |
20:55.58 | dcordes | and I doubt he is working on it at the moment anyway |
20:56.04 | dcordes | iirc |
20:56.25 | oni | well I have understood |
20:56.37 | dcordes | it always sounded like the ATI chip is quite a hurdle |
20:56.39 | spbvac | dcordes: it seems that there are some substantial differences between kaiser and diamond. |
20:57.04 | dcordes | spbvac: you can search the rikers log or irclog.iclem.net |
20:57.14 | dcordes | cr2 gave some info on the differences |
20:57.15 | spbvac | dcordes: ati chip ? diamond also has some ati chip... |
20:57.21 | dcordes | I didn't write it down :( |
20:57.31 | dcordes | spbvac: yes different thing |
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20:57.47 | dcordes | on the hermes, it does also sound and stuff |
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20:57.59 | spbvac | dcordes: ok, seems like a big task for searching on google. |
20:58.11 | dcordes | cr2 diamond |
20:58.35 | nh_ | I would have got the diamond but it is too much $$$ |
20:59.07 | dcordes | I will probably get it for some weeks when a person I knows prolongues their contract |
20:59.09 | spbvac | dcordes: yes, it seems that the ati chip is used for video on diamond |
20:59.16 | Marajin | spbvac: The diamond only uses the ATI chip for graphics rendering. On the hermes it does a lot more. the diamond is majoritively just an MSM system like the kaiser, polaris, vogue and others |
20:59.34 | spbvac | nh_: i don"t have it, just thinking about it :) |
21:00.00 | Marajin | dcordes: Diamond is MSM7201A yes? |
21:00.10 | dcordes | shrugs |
21:00.10 | nh_ | spbvac: me too, I ended up just buying a shadow (juno) off of ebay. |
21:00.13 | dcordes | I think so |
21:00.22 | spbvac | Marajin: yes |
21:00.36 | nh_ | I'll try haRET once I get it and see how it goes. |
21:00.43 | Marajin | spbvac: Yeah so same as kaiser but faster with an included ATi chip for graphics processing |
21:00.55 | Marajin | s/kaiser/kaiser chipset/ |
21:00.56 | spbvac | nh_: is shadow/juno similar to diamond ? |
21:01.35 | dcordes | nh_: there are some people in the xda forums who tried the kaiser stuff on diamond |
21:01.43 | dcordes | nh_: if you are curious |
21:01.55 | nh_ | spbvac: not really. It's a slider with the blackberry pearl style keyboard and no touch screen. It has a 200 mhz omap850 in it. |
21:02.07 | dcordes | Marajin: juno=phoebus |
21:02.30 | spbvac | hmm. linux does not have a very good record on supporting the accelerated embedded graphic chipset features... |
21:02.32 | nh_ | dcordes: I'll probably look it over at some point, but I'll wait until the price comes down to get one. |
21:02.54 | spbvac | nh_: ok, omap is certainly a cheaper alternative |
21:03.31 | nh_ | spbvac: yeah, I got it for $150US so quite reasonably priced. |
21:03.42 | dcordes | spbvac: I just received my beagleboard which has porn graphics in linux |
21:03.48 | dcordes | very good |
21:03.58 | Marajin | porn graphics indeed/ |
21:03.59 | dcordes | but the good driver is closed as of now |
21:04.02 | spbvac | well, diamond is much more expensive, that"s true. |
21:04.28 | spbvac | dcordes: what is beagleboard ? |
21:04.33 | dcordes | I like the diamond quite well |
21:04.40 | nh_ | spbvac: I had a rokr e2 for a while but it went through the washing machine (after I replaced the LCD when I dropped it on the cement). |
21:04.49 | nh_ | I like cheap phones now. ;) |
21:04.50 | dcordes | spbvac: a tiny omap3 based board |
21:05.04 | spbvac | nh_: hehe |
21:05.06 | oni | nh_: )) |
21:05.07 | dcordes | spbvac: with hsusb otg, hdmi and such nice interfaces |
21:05.11 | Marajin | heh |
21:05.27 | dcordes | spbvac: http://beagleboard.org/ |
21:05.32 | Marajin | nh_: I dropped a Nokia 8210 35ft off a cliff onto solid rock once! |
21:05.39 | Marajin | nh_: It didn't break |
21:05.41 | spbvac | dcordes: is there any linux support for it at all ? |
21:05.47 | nh_ | Marajin: motorola phones seem to be incredibly fragile. |
21:05.53 | dcordes | a friend dropped his siemens sx1 or so into a glass of beer |
21:05.58 | Marajin | I don't much ike the ROKR |
21:06.06 | Marajin | dcordes: I dropped my hermes in coffee |
21:06.10 | dcordes | dried it and was fine. the most robust phone I owned myself was the nokia 5110 |
21:06.22 | Marajin | dcordes: And on concrete several times |
21:06.30 | nh_ | My wife dropped her samsung into a can of yellow paint. I grabbed it and ran to our liquor cabinet and bathed it in everclear for an hour, it looks and works better than it used to! |
21:06.39 | dcordes | I dropped it uncountable times; it breaks into all its pieces each time, but doesn't take harm. |
21:06.44 | Marajin | dcordes: There's a small crack in teh case and the earpiece has been a bit quiet since the coffee but it's fine |
21:06.45 | oni | o_O |
21:06.47 | oni | ))) |
21:07.01 | dcordes | nh_: haha nice one |
21:07.17 | spbvac | oni: don"t try it with hermes :) |
21:07.25 | oni | =)))) |
21:07.42 | Marajin | Yes these things should only be done by seasoned professional phone-borkers! |
21:08.09 | nh_ | dcordes: everclear is fantastic. It cleans anything. |
21:08.13 | dcordes | nh_: everclear is alcohol? |
21:08.41 | nh_ | dcordes: yeah, 95% grain liquor. |
21:09.01 | Marajin | i.e. slightly dialuted alcohol :p |
21:09.05 | dcordes | it didn't harm the pcb? |
21:09.18 | Marajin | dcordes: Nah it wouldn't harm the pcb it'd probably aid it |
21:09.56 | nh_ | dcordes: Nope. Only problem is that it leaked between the screen and the plastic and because there were paint particles mixed in it looks a bit foggy now. |
21:10.24 | nh_ | but her microphone works much better and the phone is otherwise much newer looking now. ;) |
21:10.28 | dcordes | open the plastic and give it more everclear |
21:11.03 | nh_ | dcordes: I was considering it, but it was a big hassle taking my E2 apart. |
21:11.25 | nh_ | I imagine samsung phones are worse. |
21:11.46 | dcordes | never had one |
21:12.06 | Marajin | depends on the samsung but seriously can be yeah |
21:12.14 | Marajin | I had the x820 at one point :P |
21:12.32 | Marajin | ya know the one that's ony a few mm thick? |
21:12.42 | Marajin | 6.9 at the widest point (camera module) |
21:12.56 | nh_ | yeah, My wife has the t-629. It's much thicker, but I bet it's still a pain to work on. |
21:13.08 | nh_ | her's is like 12-13mm thick. |
21:13.45 | Marajin | 6.9 at the widest point, more like 4 for 90% of the body :P |
21:13.55 | Marajin | they're seriously thin phones |
21:13.56 | Marajin | so thin |
21:14.21 | Marajin | they had to invent a new way to reinforce plastic to make them or something |
21:14.30 | Marajin | or they'd be wobbly and bend/snap |
21:14.41 | Marajin | from the time I used it, it was quite tough though |
21:14.55 | dcordes | .. d'oh of course I have one. d600 |
21:16.01 | nh_ | Marajin: I imagine it's tough going back from having something that portable. |
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21:24.39 | Marajin | nh_: Nope, I really don't find size or weigh an issue. |
21:25.08 | Marajin | nh_: at 118kg, I'm not small and easily portable myself so I find things like the kaiser extremely portable :P |
21:25.28 | tgreer | rofl |
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21:26.35 | Marajin | I don't really notice to put things like that even in the pocket of fairly tight trousers and such |
21:28.42 | nh_ | well, time to go catch my bus |
21:29.06 | Marajin | nh_: Enjoy! |
21:32.10 | dcordes | nh_: cya |
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21:34.19 | ginge | Marajin: http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPjE8iHSxJ8-mG30E-f-G_s01Vmg |
21:34.19 | Marajin | 'lo ginge |
21:34.26 | Marajin | eek |
21:34.36 | Marajin | I got preemptively linked! |
21:34.36 | tgreer | GINGE you big cuddly legend :D |
21:34.38 | ginge | you probably already saw that, but... wtf? |
21:35.04 | ginge | tgreer: I'm scared now :) |
21:35.26 | Marajin | ginge: that ACTUALLY made me snort derisively |
21:35.31 | Marajin | that's no small feat |
21:35.35 | ginge | Marajin: indeed |
21:35.49 | tgreer | ginge: i've just discovered you're partly to blame for the lack of linux functionality on my kaiser :P |
21:35.58 | tgreer | n your also an xda-devs user :) |
21:36.05 | ginge | tgreer: um... ? |
21:36.18 | dcordes | ÐÑÐ¸Ð²ÐµÑ ginge |
21:36.31 | tgreer | ginge: sarcastic way of saying you helps with linux on kaiser |
21:36.40 | ginge | 'lo |
21:36.49 | Marajin | That's not sarcasm technically |
21:37.07 | ginge | tgreer: yeah, I didn;t see the sarcasm, sorry |
21:37.33 | dcordes | ginge: I put the readme with the new lists up |
21:37.34 | tgreer | np ginge, you'll learn if my sentence has a :p in it its meant sarcastically :) |
21:37.49 | ginge | tgreer: I have a script that removes all smileys :) |
21:37.55 | tgreer | ah kk |
21:37.56 | dcordes | :D |
21:38.05 | Marajin | We're notherners! We're beyond redemption and must become southerners to survive ya see, and thus we _understand_ sarcasm ;) |
21:38.37 | ginge | Marajin: don't set me off again. My gf just went to bed because I ranted for about an hour straight |
21:38.42 | Marajin | :D |
21:38.54 | Marajin | grins. |
21:38.56 | tgreer | ginge: baaad |
21:39.03 | Marajin | tgreer: And yet, hilarious |
21:39.04 | dcordes | the term tink tank is quite funny |
21:39.24 | ginge | tgreer: she understands. She did the same to her work colleague when she saw it :) |
21:39.29 | Marajin | dcordes: You know they don't mean trundley armoured vehicle that makes boomsplodey? |
21:39.38 | Marajin | ;) |
21:39.38 | ginge | lol |
21:39.45 | Marajin | I wish they did |
21:39.49 | Marajin | how cool would that be? |
21:40.01 | Marajin | "Liverpool's fucked, we think it now... **BOOM**" |
21:40.06 | ginge | extremely. We could drive it to Londonium and blow the wankers up ;) |
21:40.10 | Marajin | :D |
21:40.11 | dcordes | no I thought they are tanks with sociologists sitting on the inside |
21:40.12 | Marajin | yes we could |
21:40.25 | Marajin | dcordes: Perhaps they're scientologists? ;) |
21:40.34 | Marajin | brb, Have to see a man about breaking his satnav |
21:40.47 | tgreer | heh, Marajin |
21:40.52 | tgreer | you should visit glasgow sometime |
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21:41.00 | tgreer | then say liverpools fucked :P |
21:41.02 | ginge | tgreer: I value my kidneys |
21:41.24 | dcordes | ginge: got your beagle? |
21:41.24 | tgreer | ginge: its not that bad ... |
21:41.32 | ginge | tgreer: yeah I know :) |
21:41.32 | tgreer | just dont wear a liverpool top :P |
21:41.41 | tgreer | or a man u top |
21:41.43 | ginge | dcordes: no, it looks like it went missing in transit |
21:41.46 | dcordes | ginge: :P :P |
21:41.57 | ginge | dcordes: doh! |
21:41.57 | tgreer | man u top is like a bull's red rag to old firm supporters :P |
21:42.01 | ginge | tgreer: lol |
21:42.24 | ginge | tgreer: They all piled down not so long ago iirc. I used to work next to the manu ground. I went home early |
21:42.34 | tgreer | nananana HOLD THE HECK ON |
21:42.39 | tgreer | do not associate US with rangers fans |
21:42.45 | tgreer | s/fans/hooligans/g |
21:42.59 | tgreer | apt = bot? |
21:42.59 | apt | Do I look like a bot?? |
21:43.04 | tgreer | lol |
21:43.07 | tgreer | duly noted |
21:43.10 | tgreer | damn thats smart |
21:43.17 | ginge | yeah |
21:43.17 | tgreer | need to get my irc bot to do that for sed syntax |
21:43.33 | ginge | cheese is at http://www.cheese.org/ |
21:43.35 | ginge | where is cheese? |
21:43.42 | ginge | not that smart |
21:43.54 | ginge | wait, I think I saw that command in the help |
21:44.15 | ginge | where can I find cheese? |
21:44.30 | ginge | no, nevermind |
21:44.37 | tgreer | MooBot is a supybot |
21:44.43 | tgreer | (my irc bot btw) |
21:45.04 | ginge | :) |
21:45.27 | dcordes | tgreer: where does he live? |
21:45.36 | tgreer | www.tsone.info |
21:45.39 | tgreer | #geeksoc |
21:45.44 | ginge | brb got to seea man about some nicotine |
21:45.48 | tgreer | my irc server |
21:46.11 | tgreer | and #ceo |
21:46.30 | tgreer | where i should be but i'm too lazy to join |
21:51.10 | tgreer | xD |
21:52.10 | dcordes | rude bot |
21:52.17 | tgreer | rofl |
21:52.37 | dcordes | tgreer: btw you can try to compare the ppp.sh with the one on ginge's website |
21:52.48 | dcordes | maybe it's broken somehow but I doubt it |
21:52.49 | tgreer | er ... ask me tomorrow :P |
21:52.53 | tgreer | i'm falling asleep lol |
21:53.10 | dcordes | I'm making a new console image anyway, it's on the userspace todo list |
21:53.25 | tgreer | cool |
21:53.33 | tgreer | anything i can help with? or just stfu n gtfo? |
21:53.59 | dcordes | I will inform your when I have it |
21:54.06 | dcordes | you |
21:54.10 | tgreer | so destructive testing? :P |
21:54.23 | dcordes | right |
21:55.44 | ginge | okay, fixed the RTC but. You can now set the clock without an oopd |
21:55.52 | ginge | s/oopd/oops/ |
21:56.07 | ginge | RTC bug. man i'm tired |
21:57.25 | dcordes | you can oops the butt w/o a clock? |
21:57.51 | tgreer | need to find a sed plugin for moobot |
21:58.01 | tgreer | <PROTECTED> |
21:58.50 | dcordes | ginge: removed it from the kernel todo list |
21:59.15 | dcordes | ~lart MooBot for havin lame lart database |
21:59.15 | apt | whips out his power stapler and staples MooBot's foot to the floor for havin lame lart database |
21:59.38 | tgreer | ROFL |
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22:06.57 | Marajin | tgreer: I've been to glasgow, I used to live in Perthshire actually |
22:07.03 | tgreer | ah cool |
22:07.06 | tgreer | what part? |
22:07.09 | Marajin | Scne |
22:07.11 | Marajin | *scone |
22:07.14 | tgreer | ahhh |
22:07.18 | tgreer | hmm |
22:07.26 | tgreer | i'm sure one of my uni mates lives there |
22:07.30 | Marajin | probably |
22:07.39 | Marajin | nobody in scone is actually scottish though you realise? |
22:07.50 | Marajin | I lived next to a londoner, a liverpudlian and a white african |
22:07.52 | tgreer | yeh lol |
22:15.29 | Marajin | I also lived right near the pub though |
22:15.34 | Marajin | which is never a bad thing |
22:15.35 | tgreer | lol |
22:15.54 | tgreer | Marajin: i'm off to dalguise next weekend |
22:16.00 | Marajin | wooo? :P |
22:16.11 | tgreer | yeh lol |
22:16.12 | tgreer | past u |
22:16.16 | tgreer | well old u |
22:16.16 | tgreer | lol |
22:16.21 | Marajin | yeah :p |
22:16.23 | tgreer | weekend with cadets |
22:16.28 | tgreer | anyways bed time |
22:16.30 | tgreer | night |
22:16.53 | Marajin | ginge: Look at this eh, scots are supposed to have stamina aren't they? |
22:20.46 | ginge | sorry, was trying to beat the bobox into life. |
22:21.04 | ginge | heh bebox |
22:22.41 | Marajin | jooooy |
22:22.45 | Marajin | joy I say! |
22:22.51 | Marajin | there will be enforced happiness |
22:23.26 | ginge | considering I have to move to london to be happy, I think I will pass |
22:23.55 | ginge | or at least the southeast |
22:25.15 | Marajin | hhe |
22:25.18 | Marajin | *heh |
22:25.31 | Marajin | One day I may visit |
22:25.34 | Marajin | +london |
22:25.53 | ginge | never been? |
22:25.56 | Marajin | With a happydetector plugged into my kaiser |
22:25.57 | Marajin | erm |
22:26.08 | ginge | :O |
22:26.10 | Marajin | i've been to heathrow and I've been through london once while asleep in the back of a car |
22:26.28 | ginge | oh, well you saw it all then |
22:26.29 | Marajin | so basically |
22:26.34 | Marajin | heh :P |
22:27.15 | ginge | shit I just ran out of jiffy bags |
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22:27.35 | ginge | moving house has screwed my stock levels |
22:30.21 | ginge | O.o people do strange things. why order an 8 pin shell and 7 pins for it |
22:30.38 | ginge | I clearly state you need 8 |
22:30.49 | ginge | and it adds 8 to the baskey |
22:31.00 | ginge | gives up |
22:31.10 | ginge | moves south for winter |
22:33.47 | Marajin | heh |
22:33.55 | Marajin | nails Ginge's feet to the floor |
22:34.01 | Marajin | no sir, no you do not |
22:34.09 | Marajin | if you're cold, get some whiskey down your gullet |
22:34.26 | ginge | mmmm whiskey |
22:34.32 | Marajin | ...man garmin's system is painful |
22:35.11 | Marajin | why oh why do I have to install the maps to my PC, unlock the maps on that, then select which section of the maps I want and convert them and transfer them to the device, and then unlock them there too |
22:35.31 | Marajin | rather than say... the tomtom system of "put the files on the SD card" |
22:35.35 | ginge | so lets assume I got the audio device to register properly... what kernel ops do I need? ALSA? |
22:35.46 | Marajin | sounds sensible |
22:35.57 | Marajin | though don't most of the embedded wossits use OSS for some insane reason? |
22:36.04 | Marajin | ..wait we're on 2.6 |
22:36.10 | ginge | who knows |
22:36.11 | Marajin | we CAN'T use OSS |
22:36.17 | ginge | you can use emulation |
22:36.28 | Marajin | that's use alsa with OSS emulation layer |
22:36.29 | Marajin | heh |
22:36.42 | Marajin | may as well just use alsa |
22:37.13 | Marajin | heh, '0 seconds remaining' has been displayed for 3 minutes now |
22:50.27 | dcordes_ | good night |
22:59.07 | ginge | wimps |
23:00.17 | Marajin | yep |
23:00.20 | ginge | do we know what version of AMSS we have> |
23:01.58 | Marajin | ginge: Off hand no |
23:05.17 | ginge | woo my phone now thinks its 17:40 I think the clocks must be different in WM and android |
23:06.02 | Marajin | ginge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2484838 ? |
23:06.16 | Marajin | looks like you can dice up the amss and have a play |
23:06.29 | ginge | nice |
23:06.48 | Marajin | Well you can "load the AMSS to extra files and info" |
23:06.56 | Marajin | including what looks like product and version stuffs |
23:07.55 | ginge | aww dcordes man. he put that I got sound working in the readme. I heard a faint noise coming from the speaker and now sound works? |
23:09.34 | Marajin | ginge: He does things like that, exhuberence of youth ;) |
23:09.56 | Marajin | got your tin helmet and nub poking stick at the ready? |
23:09.57 | ginge | this is gonna take weeks to get working, and thats at a fair pace |
23:10.04 | ginge | heh |
23:11.00 | Marajin | you distract 'em, I'll lart them to the back of the head! |
23:13.49 | ginge | this could get annoying. Every time I boot android and reset back to WM I get the "GPS data out of date" thing |
23:14.02 | ginge | rm -r RTC |
23:24.18 | ginge | a minor improvement is moving to 2.6.26? |
23:24.33 | ginge | thats hardly minor |
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