00:00.42 | Marajin | yo ginge |
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00:00.51 | ginge | yo |
00:00.56 | Marajin | how's it going? |
00:02.24 | ginge | not bad. Getting internet starvation |
00:02.31 | Marajin | heh |
00:02.33 | Marajin | Poor bugger |
00:02.51 | Marajin | Time to go wardriving! |
00:03.22 | dcordes | 01:22 < dcordes> ginge: got your beagle yet? |
00:03.23 | dcordes | 01:35 < SanMehat> ginge: send me your console output for the failure and i'll look at it a bit tonight |
00:03.35 | dcordes | hi Marajin |
00:03.39 | Marajin | hey dcordes |
00:03.45 | ginge | dcordes: no, not got it yet. |
00:03.54 | Marajin | manila is the 3D interface that comes on the diamond btw |
00:03.58 | ginge | dcordes: also the stuff I posted was pretty much the only output |
00:04.44 | dcordes | k, just wanted to make sure you got the message from san |
00:04.51 | dcordes | because you quit afterwards |
00:05.24 | dcordes | Marajin: I have seen vidoes with it. does it make for a bit of showing off? |
00:05.48 | dcordes | (on the kaiser with ati driver) |
00:06.18 | Marajin | dcordes: Unfortunately the touch alignment is stillVGA so you can never tap most of the buttons =/ |
00:06.44 | Marajin | dcordes: They gave up developing it because the kaiser only had software and they were getting 3fps, but they might restart again now we have some hardware acceleration |
00:08.50 | dcordes | port the driver to 2.6.25, setup a nice rootfs with e17 and compiz |
00:09.08 | Marajin | hah :P |
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00:14.41 | ginge_ | well, I need to look at this closer, but I am sure that 800000008 is a valid response code |
00:15.10 | ginge_ | or am I thinking of ...02 |
00:15.26 | ginge_ | meh. I need sleep. night. |
00:16.33 | dcordes | ginge: good night |
00:16.34 | Marajin | night ginge_ |
00:16.36 | Marajin | sleep well |
00:18.50 | dcordes | I wonder if cr2 or so had a look at the msm imageon driver already |
00:19.06 | dcordes | Marajin: it's backported from the diamon shipped roms, right |
00:19.07 | dcordes | ? |
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00:25.43 | Marajin | dcordes: yeah |
00:26.03 | Marajin | dcordes: Oh the drivers? nobody's quite clear, they're being kinda vague on how they did it. |
00:26.11 | Marajin | dcordes: I know it's contigent on WM6.1 |
00:31.01 | dcordes | if they make mysteries out of the work, they're not much better than qc |
00:40.14 | herriojr | do we have logs with the sd card issue? |
00:40.23 | herriojr | or do I need to make those myself? ;) |
00:44.18 | Marajin | maybe somewhere but I know not where |
00:44.38 | Marajin | the issue is pretty easy to replicate |
00:48.16 | herriojr | ok |
00:51.48 | dcordes | herriojr: hold up, I pasted one of the error sequences for SanMehat |
00:53.49 | dcordes | http://rafb.net/p/0FL9jr91.html |
00:56.43 | herriojr | ok thanks |
01:03.17 | dcordes | that's with the code currently in htc-msm git. |
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02:10.24 | dcordes | herriojr: did you get my mail? |
02:56.41 | tmzt | dcordes: did you get 2.6.25 working then to test the sd? did you bring over the tsc touchscreen code? |
02:58.28 | CPress | Hey guys, long time.. What's new? |
03:02.30 | Marajin | 'lo CPress |
03:05.59 | CPress | Whats new in this neck of the woods? |
03:06.14 | Marajin | not much |
03:11.08 | dcordes | tmzt: according to ginge, 2.6.25 doesn't fix sd. the tsc2003.c is in the patch ginge provided |
03:11.17 | CPress | I wanna put your guys new code for android on my phone, are you guys still keeping it on the http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ site? |
03:12.25 | dcordes | nothing new in the woods |
03:12.54 | dcordes | and my builds will continue going there |
03:13.26 | tmzt | are you running that now? does it make sd worse? |
03:14.13 | dcordes | no, not running it |
03:14.24 | tmzt | either way, can you get that lshal paste? |
03:14.57 | dcordes | right I entirely forgot about that |
03:15.31 | dcordes | let my install that lshal package |
03:15.37 | CPress | So, do just need to replace the zImage? or is the android updated? |
03:15.54 | dcordes | depends on when you got the zImage the last time |
03:16.01 | tmzt | the fdi policy input policy file should be matching but I'm not sure were it gets the capabilities from |
03:16.08 | dcordes | if you want to upgrade the kernel, you only want the zImage yeat |
03:16.45 | CPress | I am imagining that the android.bin has not changed? right? |
03:16.48 | Marajin | You'd think by now google would release a newer android SDK considering android devices are meant to ship in a few months |
03:17.25 | CPress | One would think. Especially after the negative publicity |
03:17.29 | CPress | about the SDK |
03:17.39 | dcordes | CPress: depends on when you last got it the same way |
03:18.29 | CPress | What changed in the android.bin? |
03:18.51 | dcordes | nothin much lately |
03:19.27 | Marajin | You've got to understand we're not very concerned with android until it stablizes more and we need to work on underlying hardware support _regardless_ |
03:19.48 | dcordes | ack |
03:19.49 | Marajin | Oh, so since people are here, what's going on with the TS now dcordes ? |
03:20.16 | CPress | Right, I understand that. I thought that you were using Android to get the hardware working.. or are you using the angstrom |
03:20.47 | Marajin | Right now we're trying to fix bugs in the kernel and add hardware support that we may as well use angstrom for because it doesn't crash every 5 minutes |
03:20.57 | tmzt | the android kernel is the kernel for the msm devices, android itself is a user environment that works on linux |
03:23.52 | tmzt | we are looking for how the hal finds the touchscreen and tells Xfbdev |
03:24.21 | tmzt | otherwise, we can use an older Xfbdev that doesn't require hal |
03:24.35 | Marajin | well dcordes said something about the hal but it didn't make much sense to me cause from his tests everything up to and including tslib is seeing the TS ok right? |
03:24.48 | Marajin | how many layers does this stuff have?! |
03:24.55 | tmzt | yes, but tslib doesn't use the hal |
03:25.17 | Marajin | I thought X was using tslib tho'? |
03:25.19 | tmzt | Xfbdev uses hal to find the device and tslib to open it if its a touchscreen |
03:26.37 | Marajin | So what do we know Xfbdev is actually doing? is it detecting incorrectly or not at all or what? |
03:27.26 | tmzt | it's hard to follow, but we have added printf's for once its found the ts with hal, which is are not being printed |
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03:28.33 | Marajin | Heh, so it's not detecting the TS, what next? |
03:30.29 | tmzt | /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/10-input-policy.fdi |
03:30.56 | tmzt | from my desktop, is that the same as angstrom? |
03:31.47 | tmzt | should be in hal-info |
03:39.17 | tmzt | http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xhorak28/unb/forum.php?req=thread&postid=770 <- middle of the page should be what we need |
03:42.42 | tmzt | <merge key="input.x11_driver" type="string">tslib</merge> on the input device in hal? |
03:43.14 | Marajin | Well I dunno but I guess I can take a peak in the .bin and have a shufti |
03:43.48 | tmzt | the other file only matches buttons, but we get a key event not button press |
03:44.11 | tmzt | so we write are own file for hal that matches the kernel input device name? |
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03:44.47 | Marajin | hmm |
03:44.53 | Marajin | possible |
03:46.26 | Marajin | we don't have a /usr/share/hal ? |
03:46.48 | tmzt | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InputHotplug |
03:47.58 | tmzt | FDI files: FDI files are used for controlling how input-hotplug works. As an example, /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-kb.fdi. This is a way to add properties to a device that match certain criteria. For example, if a device has usb.vendor="wacom", the fdi-file could add a xorg.driver="wacom" property. The daemon that listen to HAL events would use these properties to avoid adding devices the user wants to ignore and load the right driv |
03:47.58 | tmzt | er for wacom tablets etc. |
03:49.09 | Marajin | I don't think we're installing hal somehow |
03:49.33 | Marajin | There's libhal in the image somewhere but there's no hal folders AFAIK |
03:49.44 | Marajin | no fdi files |
03:50.21 | tmzt | hal and hal-info in oe, I think |
03:51.38 | Marajin | tmzt: Kinda explains why it doesn't work maybe if we don't even have hal? |
03:52.08 | Marajin | though I don't see why it wouldn't be included in <thing>-image files? |
03:52.16 | Marajin | dcordes: yo? |
03:54.03 | dcordes | Marajin: can you make me a hal-utils ipk? |
03:54.27 | Marajin | I can try? |
03:54.34 | tmzt | dcordes: do you have hal then? |
03:54.56 | dcordes | Marajin: try? did you remove the build? |
03:55.06 | dcordes | tmzt: I think so |
03:55.29 | dcordes | tmzt: have the kaiser's rootfs mounted |
03:55.30 | Marajin | dcordes: what build? |
03:55.38 | Marajin | dcordes: I still have OE insstalled |
03:55.44 | dcordes | Marajin: the whole OE stuff on your server |
03:55.58 | Marajin | I'm not sure precisely what to do to build a working ipk off hand though |
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03:56.50 | dcordes | source the setup var script, bitbake hal-utils, find it in tmp/deploy/glibc/ipk/armv6*/ |
03:57.16 | Marajin | well yeah I got THAT |
03:57.18 | nighthawk08 | http://pastebin.com/m5300028a -- got a problem building gpe-image on package prismstumbler.. anybody help? |
03:57.22 | Marajin | I meant literally to buld the ipk |
03:58.09 | Marajin | er nothing provides hal-utils |
03:58.48 | dcordes | hal-info |
03:58.50 | Marajin | there's hal and hal-info |
03:58.51 | Marajin | yeha |
03:58.54 | tmzt | can you check for /usr/share/hal and see if anything mentions input |
03:59.19 | Marajin | jebus, 707 tasks just to built hal-info |
04:00.12 | Marajin | ...sigh, everything I try to build errors with some linux.2.6.21 issue now |
04:00.17 | Marajin | why it's even trying to I dunno |
04:00.51 | tmzt | http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/tree/config/x11-input.fdi |
04:01.23 | tmzt | I don't know where it gets installed, but it could be confused by the ts because ts device has a key event? |
04:01.26 | Marajin | I wonder if something broke in the OE tree |
04:01.30 | dcordes | tmzt: there's only a library libhal present in my X11 rootfs |
04:01.41 | Marajin | dcordes: yeah there's libhal but there's NO fdi files anywhere |
04:01.42 | dcordes | tmzt: no /usr/share/hal |
04:02.09 | tmzt | libhal is only the dbus client library though, so there would be no fdi's |
04:02.24 | tmzt | X needs libhal now I think |
04:03.01 | Marajin | probably why it builds it, but ironically it probably isn't building/installing hal/hal-info |
04:03.14 | dcordes | tmzt: if we would any need this to get touchscreen working, why would it lack in a standard build of a distribution which is made for embedded devices? |
04:03.14 | tmzt | I went through the oe git a few days ago, I get why hh kernels need that initramfs and somewhat how the compiler environment is setup |
04:03.46 | tmzt | I don't know, but the old Xfbdev doesn't need it |
04:04.03 | tmzt | the hh devices appear to use the older Xfbdev |
04:05.40 | dcordes | I can't really follow |
04:06.33 | tmzt | kdrive was a tiny standalone x server that is now merged into xorg, when it was standalone it was configured through the command line |
04:07.19 | tmzt | now it uses input hotplug like the rest of Xorg but without support for the xorg.conf file, which is disabled in the oe build |
04:07.28 | dcordes | and now it is configured by hal? this would make no sense because it is in none of the X images |
04:08.03 | dcordes | input hotplus, is that hal(hal related)? |
04:08.11 | tmzt | the strace says it is, that's all I know |
04:08.22 | tmzt | yes, input hotplug gets its information from hal |
04:09.37 | tmzt | the oe metadata is not consistent, the older gpe images are against older X servers (kdrive), but somethings are machine related (??) ? |
04:10.03 | dcordes | there are many things that depend on machine and distro |
04:10.06 | tmzt | what is machine need for in oe? |
04:10.28 | dcordes | well there are options that are switching depending on which $MACHINE is set |
04:10.32 | tmzt | the important differences should be at kernel level, the rest can be in hal |
04:10.36 | dcordes | same applies to $DISTRO |
04:11.02 | tmzt | which is what I am saying, what X is built depends in part on MACHINE and DISTRO |
04:11.22 | tmzt | so uni and ba can be working, jlime can be working, etc., but not htckaiser |
04:11.43 | dcordes | yes |
04:11.49 | Marajin | OE isn't exactly perfectly designed tis true |
04:12.08 | Marajin | notes bitbake is still running atm... |
04:12.12 | Marajin | 336 of 381 |
04:12.18 | dcordes | Marajin: care trying out the tmzt patched tsc2003.c kernel with your openmoko rootfs on top? |
04:12.23 | tmzt | the options would seem to be to add hal to gpe image for htckaiser or revert to another X server |
04:12.40 | tmzt | we tried openmoko first, remember? |
04:12.44 | dcordes | yea |
04:12.56 | Marajin | you have an openmoko rootfs on your stie dcordes |
04:12.57 | Marajin | *site |
04:13.05 | dcordes | oh |
04:13.11 | tmzt | hal will be needed for fso stuff, won't it? |
04:13.21 | dcordes | let me see if it has that hal |
04:13.23 | dcordes | doubt it |
04:13.28 | tmzt | and newer bluetooth (bluez) |
04:14.09 | Marajin | dcordes: It doesn't, Ia rleady checked |
04:14.20 | dcordes | good |
04:14.25 | dcordes | so forget about hal. |
04:17.31 | Marajin | 345/381 |
04:17.32 | Marajin | yawns. |
04:19.20 | dcordes | Marajin: can you do an mtn pull; mtn update; bitbake -c rebuild virtual/kernel afterwards? |
04:19.34 | Marajin | I suppose so |
04:19.43 | Marajin | It's doing glibc atm apparently which takes a while |
04:19.44 | dcordes | thanks |
04:19.57 | dcordes | tmzt: I'm checking if the fso image has hal |
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04:26.43 | dcordes | I've never seen a gpe image build prismstumbler |
04:27.06 | tmzt | is that hostap specific? |
04:27.58 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: check the link, it is a compilation error while building the package prismstumbler -- how do I solve this compilation error? |
04:27.59 | dcordes | nighthawk08: try putting in your conf/local.conf a line ASSUME_PROVIDED += "prismstumbler" |
04:28.19 | dcordes | you don't need prismstumbler for a gpe image and I don't know how you can fix that error |
04:28.30 | tmzt | it looks like a c++ thing |
04:28.39 | dcordes | assume provided will perhaps work around it. try it |
04:28.58 | tmzt | libgps |
04:29.26 | tmzt | built with different glibcs? |
04:31.41 | dcordes | bbl |
04:31.44 | dcordes | bye |
04:39.26 | tmzt | x11-gpe-image IMAGE_INSTALL = " ... hal ..." |
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04:43.52 | Marajin | tmzt: It's still building hal/hal-info here heh :P |
04:50.28 | Marajin | tmzt: Ah ok, it built hal-info |
04:53.52 | tmzt | are you (and dcordes?) using x11-image or gpe-x11-image |
05:08.31 | tmzt | the process seems to be to get that lshal dump and create a matching fdi for the device setting input.x11_driver to tslib |
05:09.38 | Marajin | tmzt: Um neither ? I think dcordes_ might be using x11-image |
05:15.23 | Marajin | tmzt: D'ya know which provider I'm meant to be suing for this kernel dcordes_ wants? |
05:17.42 | tmzt | what? |
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05:18.46 | tmzt | x11-image doesn't have hal, but the metadata might be machine-specific and I haven't looked into what the PV is for xserver-kdrive-fbdev |
05:19.17 | tmzt | what do you mean by provider? |
05:27.20 | Marajin | NOTE: multiple providers are available for virtual/kernel (poodle-kernel-2.4-embedix, c7x0-kernels-2.4-embedix, shepherd-kernel-2.4-embedix, collie-kernels-2.4-embedix, linux, linux-bast, corgi-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-bd-neon-2.6, linux-omap-2.6, poodle255-kernel-2.4-embedix, gumstix-kernel, husky-kernel-2.4-embedix, linux-rt); |
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05:31.58 | tmzt | linux? |
05:32.04 | Marajin | yeah |
05:32.17 | Marajin | interestingly if I define the prefered provider.. |
05:32.18 | Marajin | nothing happens |
05:32.25 | tmzt | sorry, "linux" might be the provider |
05:32.29 | tmzt | oh |
05:32.43 | Marajin | it says it regardless |
05:32.47 | tmzt | he has the zImage already doesn't he? |
05:32.50 | dcordes_ | Marajin: I broke it |
05:32.53 | Marajin | yeah |
05:32.56 | dcordes_ | adding up htcpolaris |
05:33.00 | Marajin | heh |
05:33.12 | dcordes_ | check conf/machine/htckaiser.conf |
05:33.20 | tmzt | do you need a htcpolaris, is it just the keyboard different? |
05:33.23 | dcordes_ | you will not PRFERRED_PROVIDER _is_ linux-kaiser |
05:33.40 | dcordes_ | s¬/notice/ |
05:33.43 | Marajin | yeah |
05:33.59 | Marajin | which doesn't exist afaik and it tries to build linux-2.6.21 and fails miserably |
05:34.06 | dcordes_ | I think it's the suppoted machine in linux-kaiser recipe which is wrong |
05:34.15 | dcordes_ | of course it does exist |
05:34.25 | dcordes_ | ls packages/linux | grep kaiser |
05:34.34 | Marajin | OE is trying to build linux-2.6.21 regardless and can't |
05:34.50 | Marajin | and if we have a preferred provider dfined why does it keep tellng me there isn't? |
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05:35.47 | Marajin | ah yeah there's a linux-kaiser_2.6.24_git.bb |
05:36.07 | Marajin | still OE has no intentions of building it apparently :P |
05:38.07 | dcordes_ | it knows it should build linux-kaiser but linux-kaiser forbids it |
05:38.26 | dcordes_ | I'm trying to rebuild putting SUPPORTED_MACHINE in a different syntax |
05:38.39 | Marajin | ah gotcha |
05:39.02 | Marajin | but OE isn't smart enough to point this fact out heh |
05:39.15 | dcordes_ | yea it's quite smart |
05:39.28 | Marajin | Was that sarcasm again? |
05:39.46 | dcordes_ | no I find bitbake quite nice verbose easy to debug |
05:39.54 | dcordes_ | OE rather |
05:40.29 | Marajin | but it wasn't smart enough to say "hey, the machine type demands this provider but the provider prohibits building it, do something" |
05:41.44 | Marajin | tmzt: So you think we should build gpe-x11-image? |
05:42.09 | dcordes_ | I think this will just add a crapload of gpe apps |
05:42.21 | Marajin | dcordes_: He seems to think it'll add hal |
05:42.28 | dcordes_ | can you check? |
05:44.48 | Marajin | yeah in a minute, I need to stop the stupid thing trying to build linux-2.6.21 first |
05:45.03 | dcordes_ | term term |
05:45.11 | dcordes_ | just kill it |
05:45.20 | dcordes_ | won't break anything |
05:45.41 | Marajin | Actually I just removed your double definition of SUPPORTED_MACHINE |
05:45.50 | Marajin | now it sanely compiles the right kernel :P |
05:45.57 | dcordes_ | hehehe |
05:46.15 | dcordes_ | what did you put instead |
05:46.35 | dcordes_ | SUPPORTED_MACHINE = "htckaiser htcpolaris"? |
05:47.52 | Marajin | nah it should be COMPATIBLE_MACHINE = "htckaiser|htcpolaris" I think |
05:48.25 | dcordes_ | ok I've seen that in other kernel recipes |
05:48.37 | dcordes_ | with brackets additionally |
05:48.46 | Marajin | yeah |
05:48.56 | Marajin | and you didn't take the hint? :P |
05:49.29 | dcordes_ | not before I commited |
05:49.31 | Marajin | well anyway with that then virtual/kernel bitbakes anyway |
05:50.11 | Marajin | try testing it with and without the brackets I dunno what they do |
05:50.38 | Marajin | what you did before is just define it and then immediately redefine it :P |
05:51.08 | Marajin | anyway, bitbaking x11-gpe-iamge |
05:51.09 | dcordes_ | ya |
05:53.20 | Marajin | 'bout 50% of the tasks done now.. |
05:58.17 | dcordes_ | Marajin: did you only see if bitbake tries to build linux-kaiser or did you actually see it fetching/building? |
05:58.41 | Marajin | dcordes_: the former, I can do the later later if you want. |
06:00.08 | dcordes_ | sorry, forget about it. I thought it gave errors about feetching but that was ok |
06:00.23 | Marajin | ok then.. |
06:00.28 | dcordes_ | it's downloading fine need to contact my OE commit buddy |
06:00.35 | dcordes_ | thanks for the assistance |
06:01.43 | Marajin | ooer, lots of nasty QA errors from gpe-panel-conf |
06:01.43 | Marajin | :P |
06:01.48 | marbalon | dcordes_: hi |
06:02.05 | dcordes_ | marbalon: hey |
06:02.05 | Marajin | ~75% built on x11-gpe-image |
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06:02.42 | marbalon | dcordes_: any news from night ? |
06:03.00 | marbalon | I read logs but till 23:59 ;) |
06:03.58 | dcordes_ | sd talks |
06:04.04 | marbalon | dcordes_: do you know how ginge find values for msm_proc_comm ? |
06:04.05 | dcordes_ | you didn't miss anything |
06:04.31 | dcordes_ | marbalon: as I said some time yesterday evening. you need to trace the functions with haret |
06:04.57 | dcordes_ | martin__, premy, ginge might help with that |
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06:06.09 | marbalon | dcordes_: ok, thanks for info, shame we don't have mmu in haret :( |
06:07.31 | dcordes_ | didn't Kevin2 fix those problems? |
06:07.46 | dcordes_ | ..with the mmutrace on kaiser? |
06:07.47 | Marajin | 90% on x11-gpe-image.. |
06:08.13 | Marajin | 99%.. |
06:08.14 | marbalon | I don't know anything but will be grate |
06:08.21 | marbalon | I will check this |
06:08.27 | Marajin | package complete :P |
06:08.43 | dcordes_ | marbalon: ok. just make sure you use the latest haret build |
06:08.59 | Marajin | wow.. |
06:09.16 | Marajin | ya know that's the first time I've had an image bitbake without something actually breaking |
06:09.41 | dcordes_ | don't pull |
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06:10.00 | dcordes_ | btw if you don't like mtn any longer, get the org.oe.dev tree with git |
06:10.49 | Marajin | tmzt: yo? |
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06:11.05 | dcordes_ | marbalon_: http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/ <- the mmu?.exe builds were for the kaiser testing |
06:11.06 | Marajin | tmzt: x11-gpe-image built and has hal stuff/fdi files in it |
06:11.55 | marbalon_ | dcordes_: thank, I will try it ;) |
06:11.58 | dcordes_ | marbalon_: I don't know what the builds from july 11th and 26th do |
06:14.25 | tmzt | dcordes: can you get that lshal paste, I'll be back in a few hours |
06:14.58 | Marajin | tmzt: Not going to sleep on us are you? |
06:15.21 | tmzt | need to, but I can check it now if you have it |
06:16.19 | Marajin | tmzt: The image? |
06:16.26 | Marajin | tmzt: Sure, you want the tar.gz rootfs? |
06:16.32 | tmzt | no, the lshal output, sorry I meant dcordes |
06:16.36 | Marajin | oh |
06:16.38 | Marajin | heh |
06:17.00 | Marajin | well it has hal at least so something to play with at some point |
06:17.25 | tmzt | if the lshal gives us what we need we can make a fdi easily, |
06:17.41 | Marajin | yeah |
06:18.12 | tmzt | no lshal, I don't know how to get around it, maybe just sysfs stuff is enough |
06:18.30 | Marajin | maybe |
06:19.19 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.19 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.19 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.19 | tmzt | <PROTECTED> |
06:19.27 | tmzt | just an example from my desktop |
06:19.43 | Marajin | yeah |
06:19.43 | tmzt | input.product should match /sys/class/input/*/name |
06:20.07 | Marajin | ok |
06:20.53 | dcordes_ | guys |
06:20.59 | dcordes_ | http://bugs.openembedded.net/show_bug.cgi?id=4448 |
06:21.11 | tmzt | http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xhorak28/unb/forum.php?req=thread&postid=770 |
06:21.12 | dcordes_ | somebody replied |
06:22.15 | Marajin | yeah |
06:22.17 | Marajin | with rubbish |
06:22.22 | tmzt | did you try making the symlink before |
06:22.25 | Marajin | that node exists and works |
06:22.26 | Marajin | AFAIK |
06:22.30 | tmzt | oh, it exists |
06:22.34 | Marajin | I think it does |
06:23.05 | Marajin | I don't actually have my testing SD card anymore cause I gave it to someone |
06:23.12 | dcordes_ | right the first part is quite useless since touchscreen0 always was present |
06:23.16 | Marajin | I'll have to check from an initrd at some point |
06:23.24 | Marajin | yeah |
06:23.45 | dcordes_ | man how can you give away your only microsd :(( |
06:23.51 | Marajin | I didn't |
06:23.57 | Marajin | I gave away my testing SD card |
06:24.07 | Marajin | I have two |
06:24.20 | Marajin | my 4GB SDHC with all winmo/fat partition I still have |
06:24.41 | dcordes_ | backup? |
06:24.43 | tmzt | that /sbin/hotplug thing, is it in the kaiser patch? |
06:24.44 | Marajin | technically I still have the 2GB card, as I don't see the guy till later today |
06:24.57 | tmzt | I wonder if that might be breaking udev stuff |
06:25.01 | dcordes_ | tmzt: which thing, which patch? |
06:25.15 | dcordes_ | we get the correct device nodes |
06:25.20 | dcordes_ | we can test with ts_test |
06:25.22 | tmzt | the kaiser patch you gave me earlier, but in the defconfig anyway |
06:25.26 | dcordes_ | why should udev-something be broken? |
06:25.31 | Marajin | I don't think there's anything wrong with that bit at all |
06:25.37 | tmzt | ok |
06:25.40 | Marajin | as dcordes_ says, all the nodes are there and working |
06:26.18 | tmzt | but they are created statically, if the udev event does not get to hal then the input hotplug won't work either |
06:26.32 | tmzt | hotplug is not used anymore, event subsystem is |
06:26.41 | Marajin | hmm |
06:26.52 | Marajin | how would we test that? |
06:27.02 | tmzt | I was looking at the hal code trying to find hald-addon-input |
06:27.20 | tmzt | zgrep /sbin/hotplug /proc/config.gz or defconfig |
06:28.04 | Marajin | tmzt: weren't you going anyway? :P |
06:28.45 | tmzt | if we can get this working with a text file then I can stay, but if we need to build another image or something |
06:29.21 | Marajin | another zImage? I dunno |
06:29.25 | tmzt | I was just saying if we don't have lshal we might not need it |
06:29.29 | Marajin | you need to get dcordes_ to test things |
06:29.37 | tmzt | I don't know if that is necessary |
06:30.25 | tmzt | dcordes_: did you get that image (x11-gpe-image)? |
06:30.36 | Marajin | No it's on perses (my server) |
06:30.44 | Marajin | I can put it on public_html tho' |
06:30.48 | dcordes_ | please |
06:31.40 | dcordes_ | Marajin: can you make one with lshal and tslib-tests in it? |
06:31.55 | dcordes_ | that will ease things for future testing |
06:31.57 | dcordes_ | reflashing |
06:33.42 | Marajin | huh |
06:33.47 | Marajin | it's 403ing and I don't know why |
06:35.52 | tmzt | you can copy an old /etc/pointercal if you have one |
06:36.13 | Marajin | apache is playing sillybuggers |
06:38.05 | tmzt | we might add some printf's aronud the config/hal stuff, but I'll need a git checkout to find it all |
06:38.16 | Marajin | wow, apache i well buggered |
06:38.27 | Marajin | I hate apache sometimes |
06:38.30 | Marajin | I really do |
06:38.52 | tmzt | thttpd -d . -l /dev/stderr is what I use for cgi testing and stuff |
06:41.41 | Marajin | nah it's just 403ing all public_html dirs for some reason |
06:42.00 | Marajin | the config files will have gone boom splodey somewhere along the line I guess |
06:47.54 | Marajin | I think I shall have to go back to default config and reedit them |
06:50.17 | Marajin | oh for petes sake I bet I know what's wrong with it |
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06:52.25 | Marajin | guess not.. |
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07:09.06 | marbalon_ | martin__: ping |
07:22.24 | Marajin | fucking apache |
07:22.29 | Marajin | dcordes_: http://w-ww.org/~kaiser/images/htckaiser/ |
07:22.51 | Marajin | dcordes_: I've built x11-gpe-image and openmoko-image earlier todaybut you wanted me to build one with extra stuff in? |
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07:35.36 | Marajin | dcordes_: btw, my x11-gpe-image already contains lshal |
07:36.12 | Marajin | dcordes_: And I did a bitbake -c rebuild virtual/kernel and letit run to completion, it's created a zImage successfully |
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10:04.26 | marbalon | ginge: hi |
10:05.56 | marbalon | ginge: I heard that you know how trace mmu on kaiser... |
10:06.10 | marbalon | ginge: could you help me with that ? |
10:08.42 | ginge | marbalon: yeah, Can I get back to you on that one in a little while. Just at work doing a training session... |
10:09.12 | marbalon | marbalon: ok, no problem, I'm at work too ;) |
10:11.06 | zoolooc | hehe, me too ;) |
10:11.11 | zoolooc | hi there |
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10:17.01 | Nistur | sorry, I seem to be getting conflicting information off the xda-developers wiki. Does anyone know what state the Blueangel is in? Last time I tried Xanadux the charger didn't work and when it tried to go into standby I got a white screen and couldn't get back. Oh and the phone network didn't work. |
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10:40.02 | nighthawk08 | dcordes_: are you there? |
10:41.12 | nighthawk08 | I've added the line in local.conf to avoid the prismstumbler file, yet on task 4566/4570 it said that it needed the file in order to compleate vbuilding the image, what work around can I do in order to avoid that and not halt the compilation? |
10:41.19 | nighthawk08 | anybody? |
10:46.33 | tgreer | nighthawk08: its dead as dead |
10:49.34 | Marajin | allo |
10:57.59 | tgreer | hey Marajin |
11:25.44 | Marajin | well I'm off for a bit, catcha later |
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12:12.08 | Nistur | I'm going to try and follow BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux from handhelds.org but I can't find autorun.exe hosted anywhere. Does anyone know where I could find it? |
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12:16.11 | BabelO_ | Nistur: why do you use this Howto ? http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcblueangel/Qtopia/ or another from same web site |
12:18.58 | Nistur | I don't know why. The other howtos seemed a little more vague. I was hoping to try openmoko on it |
12:20.56 | BabelO_ | Nistur: openmoko version is not ok for me on vga screen that's why i did not made image for it |
12:22.40 | Nistur | Babel0_: Damn, I saw some images of someone getting it running on their BlueAngel and I was hoping it'd work... |
12:24.40 | Nistur | Does this Autorun just launch haret on boot? Do I need it? |
12:24.42 | BabelO_ | Nistur: maybe some new progress, i did not try for a long time |
12:24.56 | BabelO_ | Nistur: you can rename haret.exe to autorun.exe |
12:25.00 | BabelO_ | that's the same yes |
12:25.15 | BabelO_ | Nistur: it is to boot when you insert the sdcard |
12:25.17 | BabelO_ | that s all |
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12:25.42 | Nistur | Babel0_: That's not a problem then, if I get too bothered I can write my own one :) thank god for cross compilers |
12:35.25 | marbalon | martin__: ping |
12:41.56 | martin__ | marbalon: pong |
12:42.44 | marbalon | martin__: I heard that you know how trace mmu on kaiser... |
12:42.57 | martin__ | well, i can trace the bits that work |
12:43.20 | martin__ | last i looked we still couldn't see a lot of the shared memory accesses for some reason |
12:43.38 | martin__ | i've been busy with other things for about 2-3 weeks so out of date with kaiser stuff |
12:44.39 | marbalon | martin__: ok, maybe ginge will help me |
12:46.07 | marbalon | martin__: I heard that mmutrace works on kaiser too, but run some tests but no success :( |
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12:52.44 | martin__ | marbalon: mmutrace does work for most stuff, it's just some of the smem that doesn't show up. |
12:58.44 | marbalon | martin__: ok, for example I want to trace SDIO1 register access |
12:59.19 | marbalon | martin__: dump mmu 2 0xa0400000 0x200 shows me virt addresses |
13:00.06 | marbalon | martin__: I've add all off mapped regions addlist mmutrace 0x.... 0x2000 |
13:00.59 | marbalon | martin__: remove SD card and insert and nothing happened :( |
13:02.02 | marbalon | martin__: oops now I get something ;) |
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13:16.52 | Marex | any usb-gadget writing guru here ? :) |
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13:20.39 | BabelO_ | Marex: lol, what happen with usb gadget ? |
13:23.07 | Marex | BabelO_: are you really ready to hear the horrible truth ? |
13:23.40 | Marex | Im currently trying to write driver for cypress sx2 |
13:23.47 | BabelO_ | Marex: yes :) on hh kernel only usb ether, usb storage are working, midi and serial need a small fix |
13:24.09 | Marex | and I cant damn find out where the ep descriptors are written to the chip |
13:24.27 | Marex | BabelO_: Im using mainline kernel ... bye bye handhelds :p |
13:24.46 | BabelO_ | Marex: yes should be better :) you have nice job |
13:25.00 | BabelO_ | Marex: doing dma transfer ? |
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13:28.40 | Marex | BabelO_: I dont want to hear that word (DMA), but it'd be probably necessary too |
13:29.06 | Marex | but Im still at the begining ... usb is pretty hard to understand :T |
13:29.12 | BabelO_ | Marex: lol , dma dma dma, for camera :) |
13:29.19 | BabelO_ | Marex: what about ezusb driver ? |
13:29.30 | Marex | ezusb driver? |
13:29.54 | Marex | BabelO_: say that once more and I think you will understand Reiser's wife's feeling much better ;D |
13:30.17 | BabelO_ | Marex: http://www.linux-usb.org/ezusb/ |
13:30.39 | Marex | that's for host side of FX2 iirc |
13:30.59 | Marex | yea ... that's not what I need |
13:31.07 | Marex | Im writing gadget side driver |
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13:32.18 | BabelO_ | Marex: what is the sx2 reference ? |
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13:33.15 | Marex | BabelO_: what do you mean? |
13:33.44 | Marex | there is example of a driver for vxworks and also complete TRM ... the problem is really in that I dont get how the usb subsys works yet |
13:34.03 | BabelO_ | Marex: you say cypress sx2 and i have a doc about CY7C68001 |
13:34.15 | Marex | yea, they are public |
13:34.29 | BabelO_ | oh ok, i did not look on internet ;) |
13:35.08 | BabelO_ | last time i got problem with gadget usb, psokolovsky from handhelds.org fix it for me :) |
13:35.25 | BabelO_ | it was only endpoind desciption things |
13:35.53 | BabelO_ | i understand how it works once he fixed it :) |
13:36.28 | Marex | BabelO_: I need to write whole damned driver and I dont understand it at all :D |
13:38.25 | BabelO_ | Marex: you start with which driver as skeleton ? |
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13:43.23 | Marex | BabelO_: I dont use any skeleton ;) |
13:43.41 | BabelO_ | Marex: ok, i understand why it is hard |
13:43.49 | Marex | I just collected random bits from other drivers |
13:44.06 | Marex | what is worse, I have nearly no idea how to chip is wired |
13:44.09 | Marex | (palmld) |
13:46.39 | Marajin | tthe LD is really a headache huh? |
13:47.51 | Marex | Marajin: no, it's very enjoyable hacking on it :) |
13:48.22 | Marajin | It's not exactly speedy going is it? :p |
13:48.36 | Marajin | it's been a coupla years now |
13:53.30 | BabelO_ | Marex: my Sony Clie T675 is working with linux :) but only uClinux |
13:55.29 | BabelO_ | Marex: which loader do you use ? |
13:59.51 | Marex | BabelO_: cocoboot |
14:00.15 | BabelO_ | Marex: lol, what s that :) |
14:00.19 | Marex | Marajin: well this summer it's going mainline |
14:00.28 | Marajin | BabelO_: It's a linux loader for palmos |
14:00.31 | Marex | BabelO_: see hackndev.com |
14:00.44 | Marajin | there's er.. Garux and Cocoboot I think? |
14:00.45 | BabelO_ | does it works with palm os 4.1 ? |
14:00.57 | Marajin | I don't think so,I think it was written for 5.x |
14:01.17 | BabelO_ | ok so i continue to use self made |
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14:05.36 | BabelO_ | long time i did not try to compile it with latest gcc |
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14:53.39 | Nistur | this all hurts my head... I think I'm trying to jump in a little too deep |
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14:58.56 | Marajin | Nistur: why, what'd you do? |
15:01.12 | Nistur | well, I've been comiling things from source for a while, I've even done cross compiling to ARM (gameboy advance development) and I managed to set up the environment for that... the problem at the moment is that I'm bored, so I thought I'd give compiling OPIE a go... but tutorials seem to all use different build of compilers so I'm having to 's/arm-linux-/arm-none-eabi-/g' as that's what I have at the moment |
15:02.43 | Marajin | heh |
15:02.46 | Marajin | for what device? |
15:02.52 | Nistur | Blueangel |
15:03.02 | Marajin | aren't there already opie-images for blueangel? |
15:03.10 | Nistur | yeah, but I was bored :( |
15:03.23 | Marajin | and won't it just bitbake from OE? |
15:03.29 | Nistur | this is why I should not be allowed to be near a computer while bored |
15:03.45 | Nistur | hmmm, bitbake? OE? sorry, you lost me |
15:03.55 | Marajin | Open Embedded? |
15:04.18 | Marajin | tis the build environment that'll compile a rootfs for you with all the necessary linux bits and bobs and opie/gpe/openmoko |
15:05.07 | Nistur | hmm ok, haven't seen that yet, will have a look |
15:06.12 | Marajin | ok |
15:06.46 | Marajin | just bare in mind it takes a bloody age to build, may or may not successfully compile without some happy hacking and can end up taking a HUGE amount of diskspace (up to ~35GB) |
15:07.15 | Marajin | just to build your opie-image i'd guess at about 4gb though |
15:07.41 | Nistur | I think I'll leave it for a while :P I'm going to try and find a OPIE image ready made. I want to get into development but maybe this is the wrong way to go about it :P |
15:07.54 | Marajin | yeah |
15:08.01 | Marajin | there's a whole host f 'em for the BA |
15:08.22 | Nistur | plus it's a bad time to start, I have to start making a game for coursework in a few weeks, so I'm probably best brushing up on ogre... |
15:08.56 | Marajin | ogre? |
15:08.58 | Marajin | twitches. |
15:09.01 | Nistur | lol |
15:09.23 | Nistur | well, we were supposed to be getting a fully fledged game engine this year, but Instinct Tech let our university down |
15:09.31 | Nistur | so we're stuck with Ogre |
15:09.37 | Nistur | *shrug* it'll be an experience |
15:25.20 | Marajin | heh |
15:25.27 | Marajin | there's other engines ya know |
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16:17.36 | nighthawk08 | I am trying to build the angstrom for himalaya, and having problems with the prismstumbler package in it http://pastebin.com/m5300028a -- I tried removing it from the build but it got too many dependencies,. can anybody locate what is wrong, and how do I fix it? |
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16:17.42 | nighthawk08 | I am trying to build the angstrom for himalaya, and having problems with the prismstumbler package in it http://pastebin.com/m5300028a -- I tried removing it from the build but it got too many dependencies,. can anybody locate what is wrong, and how do I fix it? |
16:17.47 | Nistur | gah, kernel panic :( |
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16:18.30 | okias | dcordes_: Hi |
16:20.10 | zamaliphe | i want to get new cell phone and i want to have it run linux |
16:20.12 | zamaliphe | what is the best imate for this ? |
16:20.54 | Marajin | No idea if any of the iMate ones work perfectly |
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16:27.39 | Marex | nighthawk08: OE is broken again :) |
16:27.48 | Marex | (not that it ever wasnt) |
16:28.26 | Marex | zamaliphe: openmoko |
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16:47.26 | tmzt | dcordes: ping? |
16:47.49 | dcordes_ | tmzt: pong |
16:48.35 | tmzt | hey, did you get the image, if it has lshal that should be enough |
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16:55.11 | dcordes | tmzt: pong? |
16:55.23 | dcordes | Marajin: your x11-gpe-image doesn't boot for me |
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17:05.10 | tmzt | it doesn't boot at all? |
17:06.15 | Nistur | woo, the kernel I have gets a kernel panic when trying to mount root filesystem :( |
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17:15.51 | dcordes | tmzt: nope |
17:18.03 | tmzt | dcordes: what do you get? |
17:20.15 | dcordes | it freezes before switching to the rootfs |
17:20.20 | dcordes | tmzt: |
17:20.33 | dcordes | or rather while it is |
17:20.51 | tmzt | does it use an initramfs in the kernel to do that? |
17:21.13 | tmzt | can you run file on /sbin/init in the image and give me the results |
17:21.19 | dcordes | no the normal rootfs extract to sd |
17:21.23 | dcordes | same setup as in my x11 |
17:22.12 | tmzt | and check it against your old image if you can (file /sbin/init) |
17:23.44 | dcordes | disk2/sbin/init.sysvinit: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
17:23.50 | dcordes | disk3/sbin/init.sysvinit: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.6.14, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
17:24.10 | dcordes | /sbin/init are links to /sbin/sysvinit . |
17:24.16 | tmzt | ok, maybe ldd? |
17:24.21 | tmzt | with the cross ldd |
17:24.32 | dcordes | non dynamic. |
17:25.22 | tmzt | copy the old init to the new image and see if it gets further? |
17:25.34 | tmzt | backup of course |
17:28.49 | dcordes | same it seems horribly broken |
17:29.08 | dcordes | maybe marajin can test it later |
17:29.17 | tmzt | same zImage? |
17:29.21 | dcordes | he can find the required ts settings and my calibration file and so in the OE bug |
17:29.25 | dcordes | yes same setup |
17:29.47 | dcordes | just changed root in the cmdline to the other partition. |
17:29.56 | tmzt | what does the bottom of the console output say |
17:30.27 | dcordes | it shows the 3 device nodes for my sd card parittions. |
17:30.38 | tmzt | the last line? |
17:30.45 | dcordes | yes |
17:30.54 | tmzt | sorry, what is the last line? |
17:31.09 | dcordes | mmcblk0p1 p2 p3 |
17:31.18 | tmzt | no panic? |
17:31.33 | tmzt | oh, it detects them after trying to mount root |
17:31.48 | dcordes | no oops message is printed but it's stuck, I can tell by the keyboard backlight freezing and leds not functioning |
17:32.09 | tmzt | is there anything above that partitions line? |
17:32.26 | dcordes | nothing special just the normal stuff I always get |
17:32.39 | tmzt | freeing init memory? |
17:32.51 | dcordes | sorry I can't boot anymore and not sure |
17:33.01 | dcordes | maybe marajin can poke around with it |
17:33.09 | dcordes | I've got to go bbiab |
17:33.11 | tmzt | does he have kaiser |
17:33.13 | tmzt | ok |
17:33.21 | dcordes | yes he does |
17:33.23 | dcordes | bye |
17:48.15 | herriojr | I haven't gotten any information back on installing applications on android from dto (if that's his name, can't remember) |
17:49.29 | Marajin | dcordes: I can rebuild I guess but it'll take a while |
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18:11.54 | dcordes | Marajin: nono it works I just noticed I put the wrong volume |
18:12.17 | Marajin | dcordes: Dope :P |
18:12.18 | dcordes | but I can't test anything because of dma |
18:13.03 | dcordes | maybe you have more luck |
18:14.44 | Marajin | nah I can't make partitions man |
18:15.24 | Marajin | SDHC card.. I can't use any of my usb readers |
18:15.31 | Marajin | I'll get another 2GB one sometime |
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18:27.18 | herriojr | for some reason cpio isn't creating files in the archive, I'm running "find . -print -depth | cpio -ov > archive" |
18:27.26 | herriojr | anyone happen to use cpio a lot? |
18:27.33 | herriojr | or enough to correct me |
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18:37.26 | dcordes | herriojr: search xda kaiser thread for cpio |
18:47.48 | tsdogs_ | herriojr: beside the fact that -depth should go before -print and I'd use ../archive as find would list also archive which cpio would try to include it into itself command looks good |
18:48.13 | tsdogs_ | bbl |
18:49.46 | herriojr | ok, I think I figured it out |
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18:50.57 | herriojr | the archive I was modifying would unpack all subdirectories/files, but when I create my own, I needed to specify cpio -ivd to get it to unpack subdirectories |
18:51.13 | herriojr | ok, brb |
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18:51.53 | Nistur | I can't boot my BlueAngel from my SD card, I get Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block. Partition is formatted ext3. Is this normally a problem? |
18:52.37 | ali1234 | Nistur: ext3 should work, it will be mounted as ext2 i think |
18:52.55 | ali1234 | if your kernel doesnt have ext3 support that is |
18:54.13 | Nistur | alil234: They're currently just kernels I've downloaded, haven't had time to sort out a cross compile toolchain |
18:55.26 | Nistur | they've all been from sets containing root fs tarballs so I assumed they'd be configured correctly |
18:55.44 | ali1234 | tarballs or initrds? |
18:56.04 | ali1234 | i suggest you find an initrd based setup and try to boot that, and then check if your SD card is actually working or not |
18:56.19 | ali1234 | check the kernel command line too |
18:56.28 | ali1234 | maybe it's trying to mount the wrong partition |
18:56.48 | Nistur | it says it's trying mmcblk0p2 which should be right... no? |
18:57.03 | ali1234 | it depends which partition you put the rootfs on |
18:57.13 | ali1234 | that's the second partition |
18:57.52 | Nistur | yep, that's where it should be... |
18:58.27 | Nistur | I might change it to mmcblk0p1 for kicks, then try sda2 or something, incase the kernel's confused :D |
19:01.09 | Nistur | I'm getting the same error for mmcblk0p1 so I'm thinking it's looking for some other block device... |
19:02.07 | kiozen | BabelO: bt is a fragile mess, isn't it? |
19:02.53 | BabelO | hi kiozen, why you say that ? |
19:03.22 | kiozen | because it crashes the kernel on a regular base |
19:04.30 | kiozen | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/15277 |
19:05.45 | BabelO | kiozen: not bluetooth :) |
19:06.09 | BabelO | kiozen: look like you call twice release and function is not tested |
19:06.18 | BabelO | or close maybe |
19:06.21 | kiozen | BabelO: it happens when I call rfcomm as a process |
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19:07.44 | Nistur | think I may have found the problem... the LOCK flicker thing on my SD card gets slid to on every time I put it into my Blueangel |
19:07.45 | BabelO | kiozen: rfcomm connect rfcomm 0 00:00:00:00:00 4 ? |
19:08.10 | kiozen | BabelO: rfcomm bind /dev/rfcomm0 <mac> |
19:08.16 | kiozen | svn up M |
19:08.23 | kiozen | there is a script called gps |
19:08.31 | kiozen | in the source root |
19:09.25 | BabelO | kiozen: ok i look, i directly use connect here |
19:10.25 | kiozen | BabelO: hm, bind is nicer as the bt mouse might not be switched on |
19:10.43 | BabelO | kiozen: yes agree |
19:11.56 | kiozen | BabelO: great! swithing off the mouse, switching it on -> crash boom bang! |
19:12.19 | kiozen | anyone ever wondered why linux isn't ready for the masses? |
19:12.54 | BabelO | kiozen: yes it is a driver issue |
19:12.57 | kiozen | ...and freezed GUI :/ |
19:13.00 | BabelO | but not bt issue |
19:13.16 | kiozen | well mobile linux bt support ;) |
19:15.05 | kiozen | damit completely locked up, this is frustrating |
19:16.03 | ali1234 | bluetooth works rather well in my experience |
19:16.13 | ali1234 | it's a lot more likely to work than wifi for example |
19:16.39 | kiozen | I make it crash in a second |
19:17.04 | kiozen | simply switch off the gps mouse |
19:18.41 | ali1234 | that's a problem with the driver for your device |
19:18.57 | ali1234 | nothing to do with the bluetooth stack |
19:21.45 | kiozen | what ever, it keeps me from fixing my own bugs |
19:22.48 | ali1234 | well yeah, if the whole kernel goes down any time a bt device goes out of range... well that would render bluetooth unusable on that device |
19:24.07 | kiozen | I wonder if anyone ever tested that stuff... |
19:26.44 | ali1234 | probably just as far as connecting a device, but not disconnecting it |
19:27.22 | kiozen | yes, that is how it looks like :/ |
19:28.49 | Nistur | WOO it's booted, finally |
19:30.09 | kiozen | if (--dev->opened == 0) { |
19:30.17 | kiozen | lol that is a very optimistic code |
19:31.21 | ali1234 | hmm... i've seen compilers reject stuff like that for being too ambiguous... what is it meant to do? |
19:32.23 | kiozen | it's most likely the line in rfcomm_tty_close that makes it barf |
19:32.30 | Marajin | hmm |
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19:33.01 | Marajin | dcordes: Heh, I can't build opie-image or fso-image still. joy |
19:33.06 | kiozen | but I am not a kernel geek, nor a bt expert, I am the map guy around here |
19:33.19 | dcordes | Marajin: what does fso error on? |
19:34.23 | Marajin | dcordes: python-pygobject |
19:35.01 | dcordes | already tried a pull update rebuild? |
19:35.07 | Marajin | dcordes: What IS fso-image anyway? |
19:35.21 | dcordes | fso is short for freesmartphone.org |
19:35.22 | Marajin | yeah it needed some m4-pattern-allows followed by generalized borking in the compiling. |
19:35.25 | Marajin | ah |
19:35.47 | dcordes | it's a complete new approach on graphical interface and phone api |
19:36.22 | BabelO | kiozen: i love the yakuake stuff in kde 4.1 :) |
19:36.52 | dcordes | Marajin: to be honest, I've had enough of the ts. I will stop messing around with it until shoragan gets his kaiser |
19:37.14 | BabelO | kiozen: can you give me again the pastebin ? |
19:37.39 | Marajin | dcordes: And when will that be? |
19:37.46 | kiozen | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/15277 |
19:37.49 | dcordes | after debconf |
19:37.57 | Marajin | And that's... ? |
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19:38.02 | kiozen | BabelO: I use yakuake since 2 years ;) |
19:38.04 | dcordes | err defcon I mean |
19:38.10 | dcordes | that's what he told me at least |
19:38.19 | Marajin | hmm, apparently libtool cannot be found -.- |
19:39.01 | BabelO | kiozen: that s a nice console :) |
19:39.12 | BabelO | kiozen: driver is at hh ? |
19:40.28 | kiozen | BabelO: yes hh kernel |
19:40.58 | dcordes | Marajin: just wait a few hours and refresh the metadata. fso should be quite well maintained by now |
19:41.17 | kiozen | BabelO: yakuake is a real improvement, it realy deserves the high vote on kde-apps |
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19:42.43 | dcordes | ginge: heya |
19:42.57 | ginge | dcordes: hello |
19:43.00 | BabelO | kiozen: yes but default keys is not ok :) |
19:43.13 | kiozen | easy to change :) |
19:43.21 | ginge | dcordes: did I miss anything fun? |
19:43.37 | BabelO | kiozen: yes already done :) |
19:45.30 | dcordes | ginge: I don't think so |
19:45.40 | dcordes | ginge: did they get you a digikey catalogue? |
19:46.22 | BabelO | kiozen: can you try to comment out try_module_get and module_put in your _bt.c ? |
19:46.31 | ginge | dcordes: yes, all 9000 pages of it. I will put it in the recycling like the others :/ |
19:46.41 | kiozen | let me try latest kernel first :) |
19:46.57 | ginge | dcordes: did you manage to apply my patch set and test? |
19:48.06 | dcordes | ginge: didn't do it yet. I though I should wait until today because you changed the code yesterday |
19:51.47 | ginge | dcordes: ok. no more changes today ;) i finally get the new broadband this week so I will go patch crazy then |
19:52.15 | ginge | like upcoming basic support for power management and audio switching |
19:53.09 | dcordes | what is power management? backlight on/off/dim,..? can we also throttle the main clocks or so? |
19:53.17 | kiozen | BabelO: bang, ok latest kener sucks too, you mean in ./arch/arm/mach-pxa/looxc550/looxn560_bt.o? |
19:53.49 | BabelO | kiozen: yes |
19:55.06 | BabelO | kiozen: you see the too lines i mean ? |
19:55.22 | kiozen | BabelO: yes, compiling kernel |
19:55.36 | ginge | dcordes: hopefully. I got a partial mddi init working for on and off control. Dimming I don't know about yet |
19:55.55 | marbalon | ginge: hi, do you have a while ? |
19:55.57 | ginge | dcordes: cpu scaling doesn't seem to work properly |
19:56.04 | ginge | marbalon: sure |
19:56.48 | ginge | dcordes: I can get it to reduce the clock, but it is unstable... can't say I am surprised. The codebase is horribly patched with incorrect power management and scaling |
19:56.52 | marbalon | ginge: can you explain me how can I trace mmu and how find correct mam_proc_comm values ? |
19:57.14 | ginge | marbalon: you need to use haret and mmutrace options |
19:57.17 | dcordes | ~lart google devs |
19:57.17 | apt | resizes google devs's terminal to 40x24 |
19:57.20 | dcordes | :P |
19:57.36 | marbalon | ginge: what release off haret ? |
19:57.40 | marbalon | lastone build ? |
19:57.42 | ginge | dcordes: more like lart us. The code that breaks is the stuff we bodged together to get it working :) |
19:57.55 | dcordes | ~lart us |
19:57.55 | apt | runs at us with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut |
19:58.26 | ginge | marbalon: latest you can find. ideally you need to get haretconsole too |
19:58.30 | kiozen | BabelO: same shit |
19:58.49 | BabelO | kiozen: really ...? |
19:58.53 | BabelO | kiozen: strange |
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19:59.55 | kiozen | BabelO: I think it's that peculiar line in net/bluetooth/rfcomm/tty.c |
20:00.02 | samuelbarthelemy | wasup guys? |
20:00.29 | BabelO | kiozen: humm don"t think |
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20:00.54 | dcordes | Marajin: just try mmu3 |
20:01.27 | marbalon | ginge: ok, everything setup and now connected to haret via haret console |
20:01.32 | kiozen | BabelO: any other idea why it crashes when moving something in sysfs? |
20:02.07 | ginge | marbalon: you are going to need to enable permissive tracing: set permissivemmutrace 1 |
20:02.30 | marbalon | ginge: so could you explain me how can I find rtc values for example |
20:02.35 | BabelO | kiozen: i use same thing here and it is ok, i llok more |
20:02.53 | ginge | marbalon: what rtc values are you looking for? |
20:02.58 | marbalon | ginge: we know this values from vogue but how dzo find it |
20:03.21 | ginge | marbalon: probably decompiling the dll where the code is |
20:04.23 | marbalon | ginge: I heard that we can't tracze shared mem ? |
20:04.34 | marbalon | *trace |
20:04.47 | ginge | marbalon: you can if you use either mmutrace with small blocks of data or a polling watch |
20:07.07 | ginge | marbalon: most of the rtc stuff if done through proc_comm |
20:07.24 | marbalon | ginge: ok, so we know where smd driver write values MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc100+PC_DATA1 and MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc100+PC_DATA2 |
20:08.01 | marbalon | ginge: and command to MSM_SHARED_RAM_BASE+0xfc100 |
20:08.14 | ginge | right, you can also see that in the kaiser mmu map page http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap useful reference if you ddnt see it yet |
20:08.17 | marbalon | so I can add this regions to mmutrace ? |
20:08.38 | marbalon | ginge: yes, I know this |
20:09.50 | ginge | marbalon: ok. yes, you need to find out the virtual address of the addresses above |
20:09.52 | marbalon | ginge: so now I should use dump mmu 2 addr range to find virt addres ? |
20:10.00 | ginge | marbalon: yes, |
20:11.11 | marbalon | ginge: dump mmu 2 0x01ffc100 0x4 fro command ? |
20:11.27 | marbalon | ginge: result is 5 addresses |
20:11.40 | ginge | sorry, yes. Are there any tiny ones? |
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20:11.41 | marbalon | I should add all of them ? |
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20:11.57 | ginge | marbalon: some will cause crashes if you try and trace them all |
20:12.08 | ginge | s/will/may/ |
20:12.39 | marbalon | 95100000 | 01f00000 | 1MB section | AP=1 T=7 |
20:12.46 | marbalon | b5100000 | 01f00000 | 1MB section | AP=1 T=7 |
20:12.53 | marbalon | 4820a000 | 01ffc000 | Extended (4K) | AP=3 |
20:12.59 | marbalon | 48308000 | 01ffc000 | Extended (4K) | AP=3 |
20:13.06 | marbalon | 4dc0c000 | 01ffc000 | Extended (4K) | AP=3 |
20:13.28 | marbalon | ginge: what do you mean tiny ? wit T flag ? |
20:13.37 | marbalon | *with |
20:14.10 | ginge | more likely the smaller ones (4k) |
20:14.29 | BabelO | kiozen: look strange to me :( |
20:14.42 | kiozen | BabelO: broken too me |
20:15.08 | BabelO | kiozen: why on loox ? maybe Marex have a solution :) |
20:15.35 | ginge | try adding the first one: addlist mmutrace that_address 0xf |
20:19.01 | marbalon | ginge: ok, nothing happened, so add another one ? should I remove first trace ? restart haret ? |
20:19.31 | ginge | marbalon: no, now you need to start the tracing with wirq 1 |
20:19.44 | marbalon | ginge: yes I know |
20:19.49 | ginge | and hope it doesnt crash |
20:19.51 | marbalon | I do that |
20:19.57 | ginge | I see, ok |
20:20.03 | ginge | yeah, move on to the next address |
20:20.22 | ginge | or slowly increase the width of the trace |
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20:21.05 | ginge | if nothing happened the first time its not worth doinh that I guess |
20:21.17 | marbalon | can I use ibit for some irqs ? |
20:22.19 | marbalon | or watch them all ? |
20:22.29 | ginge | marbalon: you certainly can |
20:22.53 | ginge | marbalon: we know what most of the irqs are now, so you can refer to them in the wiki and remove the ones we are not interested in |
20:23.10 | ginge | marbalon: easier to just start removing the spammers |
20:25.40 | marbalon | ginge: hangs on second regions |
20:29.07 | kiozen | BabelO: did you try my script on athemis? |
20:29.20 | BabelO | kiozen: where is it ? |
20:29.32 | BabelO | i ve done svn up but computer hang :) |
20:29.47 | kiozen | svn up M, in the root path, wait I commit latest version |
20:30.39 | kiozen | BabelO: svn up |
20:33.16 | BabelO | kiozen: are you sure about the rfcomm release on start) |
20:33.36 | kiozen | BabelO: start is for serial gps |
20:33.43 | BabelO | kiozen: hand you get is like when you call release twice for exemple |
20:33.56 | BabelO | kiozen: yes but you have it in bluetooth) too |
20:34.44 | kiozen | BabelO: most likely it's not called as the test fails |
20:34.48 | BabelO | kiozen: if you remove all release ? |
20:34.56 | Marajin | ginge: Hi there |
20:34.58 | BabelO | kiozen: ok |
20:35.20 | BabelO | kiozen: i ve no bluetooth gps, i share my artemis gps over bt with my ba under linux |
20:35.24 | BabelO | kiozen: or computer |
20:35.49 | marbalon | ginge: nothing happened, I will try larger mapped regions... |
20:36.22 | kiozen | i really think about giving wince a try |
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20:36.36 | Marajin | wb ginge |
20:36.40 | ginge | damn you mobile internet |
20:36.48 | ginge | Marajin: hey man, hows it goin |
20:36.50 | Marajin | BabelO: Heh, where are you from again? |
20:37.03 | ginge | marbalon: back. just move on. Hopefully they wont all crash |
20:37.06 | BabelO | Marajin: France , Montpellier |
20:37.10 | Marajin | BabelO: Ah |
20:37.13 | Marajin | ponders. |
20:37.19 | BabelO | Marajin: why ? |
20:37.27 | Marajin | kinda has a spare Solar/Battery combo BT GPS |
20:37.45 | BabelO | nice gadgey :) |
20:38.46 | Marajin | I don't need it anymore, use the kaiser for GPS. Trying to work out how cost effective it'd be to send it to you |
20:38.47 | BabelO | Marajin: what kind of GPS it is ? |
20:39.02 | Marajin | BabelO: erm, I dunno, you mean what chipset? |
20:39.24 | BabelO | Marajin: yes |
20:39.29 | marbalon | ginge: I get something ... |
20:39.39 | marbalon | a lot off lines |
20:39.49 | marbalon | 012.069 09bac22c: e5962000(ldr) # b51fc108==0000001d |
20:39.51 | marbalon | 012.069 09bac230: e5933000(ldr) # b51fc10c==0000001c |
20:39.59 | ginge | looks good |
20:40.04 | ginge | can you pastebin it please? |
20:40.13 | ginge | is curious |
20:40.35 | Marajin | BabelO: I think it's a Sirf III, I'll check tho' |
20:40.38 | marbalon | only this two lines repeted many times |
20:40.49 | marbalon | when I enable wi-fi |
20:40.51 | BabelO | Marajin: already have my artemis for thaht :) |
20:41.08 | Marajin | BabelO: Yes but it's much smaller'n your Artemis |
20:41.11 | ginge | hmm interesting |
20:42.03 | BabelO | Marajin: anyway ba is too big now, so i only keep artemis as gps |
20:42.17 | marbalon | ginge: http://pastebin.com/med8e760 |
20:42.25 | Marajin | BabelO: Ah well, I'll find someone who wants it someday ;) |
20:42.41 | Marajin | Pity cause it's not a bad device and with the battery+ solar panel it lasts for ages |
20:42.49 | marbalon | ginge: b51fc108==0000001d this is write to b51fc108 value 0000001d ? |
20:42.54 | ginge | marbalon: ok. try tracing that for more than 1 secon |
20:43.09 | ginge | in a nutshell ldr = load str = save |
20:43.27 | marbalon | ginge: it was 10s ;) |
20:44.04 | ginge | marbalon: ok, i think thats enough :) |
20:44.13 | ginge | I guess see if you can trace data section 2 |
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20:45.26 | Marajin | BabelO: I felt sorry for some guy with the artemis actually. I just gave him TT7 + Western/central european maps. |
20:45.32 | Marajin | BabelO: The Artemis was not happy |
20:46.08 | BabelO | Marajin: yes already tried, igo8 works but without the dem datas |
20:46.40 | Marajin | BabelO: Oh it runs fine but the maps are huge. You can almost see the artemis going "Maps...too big... brain... EXPLODING!" if it were a human ya know |
20:46.50 | Marajin | those are 1.8GB of maps |
20:46.59 | Marajin | Many millions of roads |
20:47.14 | ginge | the kaiser doesnt like it too much either ;) |
20:47.18 | BabelO | Marajin: strange because it works well with tt6 and 1Gb maps |
20:47.29 | ginge | bt then again it has a hard time of redrawing the scree after you touch something |
20:47.39 | Marajin | ginge: It's fine as long as you don't ask it to plot from north england to south east europe P |
20:47.54 | Marajin | ginge: Ah the screen refresh is shite yeah, good od kaiser driver woes |
20:48.54 | ginge | Marajin: it struggles with north/south of this city |
20:49.09 | Marajin | ginge: Really? It calculates pretty quick in Bolton. |
20:49.21 | Marajin | ginge: It calculates pretty quick through england |
20:49.33 | Marajin | ginge: It starts to get upset if you cross the channel |
20:49.51 | Marajin | ginge: And you can drive half way there before it works out the routes to the other side of the available map data |
20:49.54 | ginge | Marajin: right, but bolton is stuck in a time perception bubble that makes things seem faster. At least thats how people there act ;) |
20:49.59 | tmzt | Marajin: did you test the image on the kaiser? |
20:50.24 | Marajin | tmzt: What image? the x11-gpe-image? I think dcordes did, I can't really make a working SD card right now |
20:50.39 | Marajin | ginge: Hah, we're just more patient man ;) |
20:51.02 | ginge | Marajin: probably true. Very continental attitude in some places. |
20:51.18 | Marajin | Man that's a joke |
20:51.21 | Marajin | Bolton ain't patient :P |
20:51.45 | Marajin | I've lived places where people are laid back and patient, Bolton ain't it :P |
20:51.52 | Marajin | Manchester may be slightly worse though ;) |
20:52.13 | ginge | Marajin: I havn't lived anywhere near calm ;) City boy through and through |
20:52.26 | marbalon | ginge: http://pastebin.com/m4eed5162 logs for changing time |
20:53.09 | marbalon | first line is command second is data |
20:53.17 | Marajin | ginge: Hah, You should be made to live in a little scottish village for a while, You'd find it very funny |
20:53.49 | ginge | marbalon: line? |
20:54.04 | marbalon | cut command should be 0x182 |
20:54.21 | ginge | marbalon: oh I see |
20:54.22 | marbalon | line 5 |
20:55.08 | ginge | 0x184 looks interesting |
20:55.38 | ginge | 0x184 is definately a command of some sorts |
20:56.25 | marbalon | ginge: but we know rtc command it is 0x182 ??? |
20:56.39 | ginge | marbalon: how do we know that? |
20:57.04 | marbalon | because we have rtc driver working on kaiser ;) |
20:57.17 | marbalon | http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=1082670ccae30e6592311cc9dee93ba978382a25 |
20:57.30 | okias | marbalon: Hi, what exactly do RTC? Just load time from Kaiser? |
20:57.32 | ginge | marbalon: oh so you tested it? I didn't test my port, which according the the git is line for line the same |
20:58.11 | marbalon | ginge: yes, at boot time |
20:58.40 | ginge | marbalon: right, it loads the RTC driver, but the data returned from /dev/rtc is wrong |
20:59.01 | ginge | ... at least in my .25 port |
20:59.35 | marbalon | if works at but time should works later... |
21:00.04 | marbalon | ginge: tha same function for read this value |
21:00.30 | ginge | marbalon: want to put money on that? |
21:01.47 | ginge | marbalon: sorry, would you mind re-phrasing that please :) |
21:01.55 | marbalon | ginge: I don't understand ??? |
21:02.28 | ginge | "tha same function for read this value" I dont understand what you mean |
21:02.31 | marbalon | ginge: because of my poor english |
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21:02.50 | ginge | marbalon: you are better than I am :) |
21:03.00 | ginge | marbalon: and I am a native :) |
21:03.01 | RamsesII | hi |
21:03.11 | marbalon | rtc driver have only one function for reading date and time |
21:03.24 | ginge | marbalon: right |
21:03.46 | ginge | which reads/writes to 0x181 and 0x182 in the vogue |
21:03.47 | marbalon | ginge: so if this function works at boot time it should works allways... |
21:04.02 | ginge | marbalon: does it report the time at boot? |
21:04.08 | marbalon | yes |
21:04.17 | marbalon | ginge: and it is correct |
21:04.24 | ginge | ahhhhhh. sorry I misunderstood you. ok, you are correct |
21:05.08 | marbalon | but I didn't test writes so maybe 0x182 is wrong andd should be 0x184 |
21:05.11 | ginge | so why are we tracing it again ;) |
21:05.14 | Marajin | ginge: You're not a native! |
21:05.19 | Marajin | ginge: You're a nutter |
21:05.41 | ginge | Marajin: nutters come from somwhere too, you should know |
21:05.59 | Marajin | ginge: We do, we from from Nutteronia. |
21:06.04 | Marajin | Craziest planet in the cosmos |
21:06.08 | ginge | sounds like a spread |
21:06.14 | Marajin | heh |
21:06.26 | Marajin | slaps a label on Ginge's forehead, "May contain nuts." |
21:06.33 | ginge | lol |
21:07.11 | Marajin | I'm still thinking about that american mustard bottle |
21:07.15 | Marajin | "May contain mustard" |
21:07.20 | ginge | no shit |
21:07.28 | Marajin | actually it is kinda necessary |
21:07.35 | Marajin | american mustard may actually NOT contain mustard |
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21:07.41 | ginge | wtf? |
21:08.02 | Marajin | it's low (<15%) to no mustard content at all |
21:08.04 | Marajin | it's dumb I know |
21:08.09 | Marajin | and it's horrible taste |
21:08.26 | ginge | yeah cant stand the stuff |
21:08.51 | Marajin | nods. |
21:09.06 | Marajin | Give me some proper english mustard! |
21:09.11 | Marajin | Mustard wot's got a bit of balls |
21:10.01 | ginge | indeed |
21:10.30 | Marajin | less of this pansy "may contain mustard" |
21:10.36 | RamsesII | can I ask a question? are there ppl here who succeeded on having an OpenMoko image running on a HTC Magician? |
21:11.08 | RamsesII | like the one that can be obtained from linuxtogo.org? |
21:11.46 | Marajin | Don't look at me, I do the Kaiser. |
21:12.17 | okias | are you noticed acx100 driver working with .26? :-) |
21:12.18 | ginge | nods in agreement |
21:12.56 | ginge | okias: I saw, yes. it needs backporting to .24/25 |
21:13.01 | tmzt | Marajin: did you test the image on the kaiser? |
21:13.11 | Marajin | tmzt: No, I think dcordes did though |
21:13.20 | tmzt | he couldn't get it to work |
21:13.32 | okias | ginge: why backporting? |
21:13.36 | tmzt | didn't mount the root filesystem or exec init, but not sure which |
21:13.36 | RamsesII | :-) I just happened to find my Magician yesterday evening and I just wondered if I could run OpenMoko on it and it seems it should be possible. So I made a backup and tried to install, but it seems to be unaibled to make a vfat partition |
21:13.37 | Marajin | tmzt: He said he got it to boot lateron |
21:13.47 | tmzt | ok |
21:14.06 | ginge | okias: we are curring running from 2.6.24 tree. I have patches to bring us up to .25 but the driver will need to be made compaible with one of those to work |
21:14.32 | okias | heh, and on .26 not working patches for kaiser? |
21:14.33 | Marajin | ginge: time to switch to patching .26? ;) |
21:14.42 | okias | Marajin: +1 :-) |
21:14.42 | ginge | winces |
21:14.42 | marbalon | ginge: http://pastebin.com/m640f1e25 looks like clocks fo sdcc ??? |
21:15.01 | RamsesII | where can I find that image ginge and is it installable on the device or do I need to use a Linux desktop to do it? |
21:15.10 | tmzt | RamesII: ozy, how did you try to make the vfat partition? |
21:15.11 | dcordes | Marajin: tmzt doesn't work I get dma errors |
21:15.17 | dcordes | maybe repartitioning would help |
21:15.23 | ginge | marbalon: yes, it does |
21:15.25 | dcordes | it boots but I can't do much |
21:15.31 | tmzt | RamsesII: ozy, how did you try to make the vfat partition? |
21:15.38 | RamsesII | tmzt: I copied a .exe file and the tarball to the device and let the device run the .exe |
21:15.41 | Marajin | dcordes: Maybe, but probably just need to fix SD. I can't test till I get another microSD card or a reader that reads SDHC |
21:16.02 | tmzt | from ~htcpxa? |
21:16.10 | dcordes | Marajin: I can only suggest the sandisk 8gb with the tiny reader included |
21:16.22 | RamsesII | yup |
21:16.25 | RamsesII | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/ |
21:16.28 | RamsesII | that one |
21:16.42 | tmzt | does anyone know how new those are? |
21:17.01 | RamsesII | it's 2.6.21 |
21:17.06 | RamsesII | so less new then urs |
21:17.17 | RamsesII | afaik |
21:17.37 | marbalon | ginge: so I should use 0xffffc915 command and data=0x00100000 for sd right ? |
21:17.40 | Marajin | it's an old kernel sure |
21:17.45 | Marajin | I think the images are quite old too |
21:17.51 | Marajin | I guess I could try building one on perses |
21:17.57 | ginge | marbalon: we can already set the clocks for sd |
21:18.09 | RamsesII | I may just check if somehow my internal SD-reader started working with OpenSuse 11.0 cause that would make things easier |
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21:18.59 | marbalon | ginge: yes, but not via msm_proc_comm |
21:19.08 | tmzt | sdhci and tifm ones should work |
21:19.10 | ginge | marbalon: true |
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21:19.39 | marbalon | ginge: maybe we miss something... |
21:20.11 | tmzt | you would still need a zImage and that tarball or a newer one |
21:20.38 | RamsesII | tmzt: somehow they fail on me, but like I said, I just installed OpenSuse 11.0 and it may do better |
21:21.27 | tmzt | I would definitely try that, the seem to work on newer kernels |
21:21.35 | RamsesII | k |
21:21.38 | RamsesII | but |
21:21.51 | RamsesII | it shoudl be possible to install from Windows as well right? |
21:21.58 | tmzt | if you have an lspci and an lsusb, I can try to find the right driver |
21:22.23 | ginge | marbalon: not sure that is clock setup... maybe power related |
21:22.23 | tmzt | you would need a way to untar it onto ext2, which is hard to do under windows |
21:22.31 | RamsesII | hmmmz |
21:22.35 | tmzt | what messages did you get from the installer |
21:22.46 | ginge | marbalon: I take it back, maybe it is clocks |
21:22.50 | ginge | marbalon: makes sense |
21:22.54 | marbalon | ginge: right |
21:23.00 | Marajin | tmzt: It's very easy to do if you install ext for windows |
21:23.07 | Marajin | tmzt: Otherwise it's an arseache |
21:23.10 | tmzt | and get the permissions right? |
21:23.15 | ginge | livecd? |
21:23.21 | RamsesII | well, :-) |
21:23.24 | Marajin | Hmm, good point well made tmzt |
21:23.33 | Marajin | livecd would make sense then |
21:24.17 | RamsesII | Mounting SD Card |
21:24.21 | RamsesII | Fail Fail Fail |
21:24.21 | dcordes | booting gpe-x11 again |
21:24.24 | BabelO | kiozen: still around ? |
21:24.32 | tmzt | colinux is nice for that stuff, but you have to find the device name (path) and everything else, which is why I said hard |
21:24.39 | BabelO | kiozen: where gpsdrive take the maps ? |
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21:24.50 | ginge | tmzt: I had trouble with the tun/tap i colinux |
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21:24.59 | RamsesII | :( |
21:25.18 | RamsesII | Unable to mount SD Card vfat partition |
21:25.21 | ginge | brb |
21:25.25 | tmzt | I never got bridged to work right, but the other one works |
21:25.31 | RamsesII | most probably cause it isn't there |
21:25.42 | tmzt | lsusb and lspci in paste? |
21:26.06 | tmzt | fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 |
21:26.10 | dcordes | getting remote shell to gpe-x11 |
21:26.43 | RamsesII | it's on the device |
21:26.46 | tmzt | I don't know opensuse though, so I wouldn't know if it should work or not |
21:26.48 | RamsesII | I cannot enter anything |
21:26.58 | RamsesII | and this is my windows machine |
21:26.59 | RamsesII | ;-) |
21:27.06 | tmzt | what messages do you get if you try booting it? |
21:27.29 | RamsesII | these messages are from installing linux on htc magician |
21:27.44 | RamsesII | so no Suse involved ther |
21:27.48 | RamsesII | e* |
21:27.57 | tmzt | right |
21:28.28 | RamsesII | so I followed the instructions, copied everything to SD Card, ran the installer |
21:28.36 | RamsesII | on the device itself |
21:29.02 | tmzt | right, and what messages did you get when it tried booting? |
21:29.40 | RamsesII | Unable to mount vfat SD card partition |
21:29.53 | RamsesII | ./bin/sh: can't access tty: job control turned off |
21:30.44 | RamsesII | rest seemed ok |
21:30.58 | tmzt | with it still on can you remove and reinsert the card and see if you get anything on the display? |
21:31.16 | dcordes | tmzt: I get the same underscore thing in gpe-x11. I wonder if, when the X with wallpaper shows up, it draws anything really |
21:31.21 | RamsesII | nope |
21:31.30 | RamsesII | nothing happened |
21:31.30 | ginge | back |
21:31.31 | dcordes | tmzt: I mean if it really updates anything, maybe it's just a picture? |
21:32.00 | RamsesII | I could remove and reinsert without anything happened to the screen |
21:32.06 | tmzt | did you format the card yourself?, open disk management in windows with the card in |
21:32.23 | tmzt | wait, do you have windows on that same laptop with the card reader? |
21:32.30 | RamsesII | I did format the card in windows as fat |
21:32.51 | RamsesII | then copied files |
21:32.58 | dcordes | tmzt: probably the touchscreen works and just the cursor doesn't move |
21:33.17 | tmzt | start>run>diskmgmt.msc if you have a card reader |
21:33.36 | tmzt | dcordes: can you get that lshal? |
21:34.55 | dcordes | tmzt: error: dbus_dbus_get: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/systm_bus_socket: No such file or directory |
21:35.05 | dcordes | tmzt: (that's on running lshal) |
21:35.06 | tmzt | /etc/init.d/dbus start |
21:36.29 | tmzt | do you have an internet connection on that phone now? |
21:36.39 | RamsesII | tmzt: I got my gf's laptop with windows+ cardreader |
21:36.41 | RamsesII | on it now |
21:36.48 | tmzt | start>run>diskmgmt.msc |
21:37.30 | Marajin | back |
21:37.31 | RamsesII | yes |
21:37.54 | RamsesII | there tmzt |
21:38.04 | RamsesII | looking at sd card |
21:38.15 | tmzt | how many partitions are there and what types? |
21:38.19 | RamsesII | 1 |
21:38.21 | RamsesII | fat |
21:38.27 | RamsesII | primary |
21:38.44 | tmzt | ok, so it's not the whole card |
21:38.51 | RamsesII | yes |
21:38.56 | tmzt | is there anything else on that partition |
21:39.12 | tmzt | other than the magician exe |
21:39.56 | RamsesII | 241 MB card, 241 MB partition, opnemoko-Magician-Linux.exe |
21:39.58 | tmzt | are you on xp? |
21:40.10 | RamsesII | openmoko.linux.rootfs.tar |
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21:40.19 | tmzt | right click on it and see if you have shrink volume |
21:40.21 | RamsesII | no, my gf decided she needed Vista :-( |
21:40.30 | tmzt | that's good in this case |
21:40.48 | okias | RamsesII: it's really sad.. |
21:40.50 | RamsesII | option is grey |
21:40.57 | RamsesII | I cannot use it |
21:41.02 | RamsesII | okias: I know |
21:41.09 | tmzt | I'm using vista and it has resize, don't think xp does |
21:41.12 | tmzt | oh |
21:41.21 | RamsesII | option is not usable |
21:41.29 | RamsesII | should I try and defrag |
21:41.33 | RamsesII | and retry? |
21:41.51 | tmzt | check the properties on that file in explorer and see if it has the .gz or .bz2 extension |
21:41.55 | tmzt | yeah, try that |
21:42.09 | tmzt | but we can delete it if we need to |
21:42.21 | tmzt | also, is it fat or fat32? |
21:42.58 | RamsesII | bz2 |
21:43.02 | tmzt | ok |
21:43.08 | tmzt | did the defrag work? |
21:43.41 | dcordes | tmzt: can't run it due to mmc/filesystem errors. |
21:44.15 | RamsesII | it's still defragging |
21:44.17 | dcordes | it says it can't crate /var/lib/dbus i/o error, when I try to create it manually it's already present, but I can't see it in ls |
21:46.17 | tmzt | you did mkfifo or whatever? |
21:46.36 | dcordes | tmzt: no I did nothing about that directory |
21:47.02 | dcordes | I think it's just the usual mmc screwup |
21:47.26 | RamsesII | tmzt: it takes forever fro 241 MB, maybe I should just ditch the partition and make a new one? |
21:47.36 | tmzt | yeah, just delete it |
21:47.47 | ginge | so my girlfriend wants to know do you guys know if any women hack phones? |
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21:48.24 | dcordes | tmzt: it won't work. |
21:48.25 | tmzt | how big is that tar? |
21:49.18 | dcordes | tmzt: the x11-gpe.tar.gz? |
21:49.27 | tmzt | no, RamsesII |
21:49.35 | RamsesII | tmzt: I can only format the thing, not chose how large the partition can be |
21:49.48 | dcordes | I'll run an ext2.fsck on the device and see if it helps |
21:49.57 | tmzt | I got it, only about 30M |
21:50.22 | tmzt | RamsesII: did you delete the partition? |
21:50.32 | RamsesII | it's grey as well |
21:50.43 | tmzt | whats gray? |
21:50.54 | RamsesII | like non-selectable |
21:51.08 | tmzt | is there a way to make a new partition table? |
21:51.21 | RamsesII | black text -> selectable, grey text -> non selectable |
21:51.25 | RamsesII | I am working on it |
21:51.39 | RamsesII | maybe sd card is too old? (Wild guesses here) |
21:51.52 | RamsesII | ah |
21:51.53 | RamsesII | no |
21:51.54 | RamsesII | ok |
21:52.00 | tmzt | go to properties on the disk and see what is under volumes |
21:52.39 | tmzt | make a 64M partition for vfat, and the rest also vfat (as much as will fit) |
21:52.50 | tmzt | linux doesn't care what the partition type is |
21:53.29 | ali1234 | often SD cards do not contain a partition table. this is analogous to formatting sda as FAT rather than sda1 for example |
21:53.30 | tmzt | under volumes, what is the partition style: |
21:54.16 | tmzt | unfortunately without fdisk of some kind I'm not sure how to create one |
21:54.32 | ali1234 | i don't know how you would fix it in windows either, sorry |
21:54.40 | ali1234 | you could use a livecd... |
21:54.42 | RamsesII | hmmmz |
21:55.18 | RamsesII | I think ali1234 is right on this, it seems I cannot resize partitions under windows |
21:55.22 | tmzt | "rip linux" is tiny if you get the non-X version, I use it for just about everything |
21:56.14 | tmzt | is there anything listen for partition style, and what is the capacity and unallocated space? |
21:57.52 | RamsesII | no unallocated space |
21:57.52 | ali1234 | you could also get an initrd based linux distro for your device and use it to format the card |
21:58.25 | tmzt | unfortunately we don't have a zImage just an installer exe on the htcpxa site |
21:58.35 | ali1234 | unpack it :) |
21:58.42 | tmzt | how do you do that? |
21:58.58 | ali1234 | i dunno, what is the link? |
21:59.03 | tmzt | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/ |
21:59.44 | tmzt | dcordes: you built a hh based image yesterday, right, what was that for? |
21:59.44 | ali1234 | ok it's a modified haret |
22:00.54 | ali1234 | you can probably change the kernel cmdline by hexediting it |
22:00.55 | RamsesII | hmmmz |
22:01.00 | dcordes | tmzt: handhelds? ah right you are referring to the himalaya kernel I built for nighthawk08? |
22:01.06 | tmzt | yes |
22:01.15 | tmzt | is there a newer zImage for magi? |
22:01.18 | dcordes | tmzt: ok, what about it? |
22:01.36 | dcordes | tmzt: my local tree is quite old, how can I uptdate it? (cvs) |
22:01.43 | tmzt | cvs up? |
22:01.52 | tmzt | oh, newer hhxx version? |
22:02.04 | tmzt | checkout again? |
22:02.42 | tmzt | he'll need linux to extract it anyway though, won't he? |
22:02.59 | tmzt | RamsesII: do you have a way to boot a cd? |
22:03.42 | tmzt | dcordes: that initramfs allows you to use a ext2 image file now? |
22:04.39 | dcordes | tmzt: regarding blueangel, I think the kernel images in ~htcpxa have the most recent stuff you can get |
22:04.51 | tmzt | for magician? |
22:06.14 | dcordes | I'd go for the linuxtogo omap branch there |
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22:10.01 | Marajin | wb ginge_ |
22:10.12 | ginge_ | grumbles |
22:10.17 | Marajin | hehe |
22:10.41 | ginge_ | seriously, this modem connection is poo. Also orange seem to block MSN?? |
22:10.53 | Marajin | ... |
22:10.55 | Marajin | rofl |
22:11.03 | Marajin | well ya know |
22:11.05 | Marajin | kids these days |
22:11.08 | Marajin | cyber sexin' on MSN! |
22:11.15 | ginge_ | shudders |
22:11.49 | Marajin | I think maybe it starts to make sense why I have O2 huh? |
22:12.26 | ginge_ | yeah, you do make a good argument |
22:13.23 | Marajin | they're not very cheap on their phone tariffs but eh.. I've had no hassle with blocked traffic or whatnot |
22:13.28 | ali1234 | just tunnel through it |
22:13.33 | ali1234 | ssh -CD |
22:13.36 | ginge_ | ali1234: I dont really care enough |
22:13.45 | ali1234 | stop whinging then :P |
22:13.48 | ginge_ | lol |
22:13.55 | Marajin | he's british |
22:14.00 | Marajin | we moan, it's what we do! |
22:14.03 | Marajin | along with queuing |
22:14.07 | Marajin | we queue up to moan |
22:14.21 | ginge_ | and moan in that queue |
22:14.44 | Marajin | of course |
22:14.58 | Marajin | and then after we've had a gooooood moan, we moan about people moaning! |
22:16.05 | ali1234 | t-mobile blocks sourceforge as an "adult site" |
22:16.15 | Marajin | ... |
22:16.20 | Marajin | just... |
22:16.21 | Marajin | .... |
22:16.24 | dcordes | haha |
22:16.33 | dcordes | ali1234: no shit?? |
22:16.48 | okias | ali1234: loool :-D |
22:16.50 | dcordes | ali1234: what t-mobile? us? |
22:16.53 | ali1234 | well they did 6 months ago before i finally caved and registered to unblock all adult sites |
22:17.04 | ali1234 | this is t-mobule UK |
22:17.05 | dcordes | they have too much geek pr0n |
22:17.23 | Marajin | sorry for this but.. |
22:17.30 | Marajin | mmmm sourceforge.. saucy! |
22:17.53 | Marajin | wanders off to give a shotgun a blowjob now, for crimes against humour |
22:19.39 | ali1234 | i think they block any site that has unregulated forums or can be used to download IM programs that can be used to access unregulated chat |
22:19.40 | ginge_ | lol |
22:20.22 | ginge_ | microsoft.com is blocked then? |
22:20.44 | ali1234 | MSN chat is blocked |
22:20.48 | Marajin | remembers the tale of Microsoft sueing microsoftie |
22:21.14 | ginge_ | heh |
22:21.32 | ali1234 | although the built-in to the phone and heavily advertised by t-mobile MSN app still works for some reason |
22:21.32 | Marajin | people might have typoed and got pr0n! |
22:22.09 | Marajin | o2 are REALLY lazy on the roms actually |
22:22.12 | Marajin | they don't do much to them |
22:22.16 | ali1234 | google talk is also blocked (actually xmpp and IRC are blocked at the protocol level) |
22:22.50 | ali1234 | and these you cannot unlock by simply registering, no. you have to pay extra for them |
22:23.04 | ginge_ | really? |
22:23.08 | ali1234 | yes really |
22:23.09 | ginge_ | thats scandal |
22:23.11 | Marajin | I think O2's idea of modifying the WinMo ROMS are to basically...er... change the theme |
22:23.26 | ali1234 | not really. i would like to see them try to charge extra for SSL |
22:23.29 | ginge_ | Marajin: I thought they were all just themed |
22:23.41 | Marajin | ginge_: Hell no, some of the changes to the roms are quite major |
22:24.00 | dcordes | tmzt: what about magician? |
22:24.01 | Marajin | ginge_: But the O2 ones..heh, ya know I actually had less installed on it before I hardreset it? I don't even know how I did that |
22:24.22 | Marajin | it shipped with less crap in the rom than the rom that was actually flashed to it somehow |
22:24.30 | ginge_ | Marajin: odd. The first set of orange roms were very bare. no msn etc |
22:24.31 | dcordes | tmzt: I think BabelO provides nice and recent qtopia builds for it, also kernel |
22:24.39 | Marajin | ginge_: Heh |
22:24.43 | ginge_ | Marajin: extrom contains uninstalls? |
22:24.50 | Marajin | ginge_: Nope |
22:25.02 | dcordes | ali1234: what's your htc? |
22:25.02 | Marajin | ginge_: Anyway I flashed the rom quite a while ago myself so |
22:25.20 | ali1234 | dcordes: wizard |
22:25.45 | Marajin | ginge_: but really I just had WM6 with er.. a today plugin and the o2 theme. The rest was just stock WM6 Pro |
22:25.53 | ginge_ | eh? this phone discharges faster in internet sharing mode than it charges |
22:25.58 | Marajin | ginge_: And the today plugin only appeared /after/ I hardreset |
22:26.21 | ginge_ | Marajin: dumb. Orange has a nice scrolling today on kaiser |
22:26.42 | Marajin | Nah I like it really. They're saying we don't fuck about with our roms so you can |
22:26.56 | dcordes | BTW did somebody hear again fo the person who said they'd try and get arm9 to setup 3g networking instead of gprs? |
22:27.00 | dcordes | on kaiser |
22:27.09 | Marajin | er no? |
22:27.13 | ginge_ | Marajin: yeah right. I doubt they would approve of it |
22:27.19 | tmzt | dcordes: RamsesII has magician and is trying to use http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/OpenMoko/ to boot it, but gets "vfat partition not found" |
22:27.37 | Marajin | ginge_: Flashing the rom, no, addingyour own apps and plugins and customization, they can't object |
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22:27.40 | ali1234 | personally i would rather have that extrom space free for other stuff. it's not like it is any use at all after the first time you boot up |
22:27.52 | ginge_ | Marajin: ali1234: agreed |
22:28.11 | ali1234 | Marajin: actually they can easily lock down the phones so they only run signed code, and then you would be screwed |
22:28.13 | dcordes | tmzt: sorry, I confused magician w/ artemis with the BabalO images. what is RamsesII's rootfs? ext2 on sd? |
22:28.30 | ali1234 | Marajin: at the moment it asks if you want to run unsigned code, it could easily just reject it |
22:28.46 | Marajin | ali1234: Yes but then HTC/XDA/etc no longer would have an advantage over other phones |
22:28.47 | ginge_ | cant someone make an sd partition and then dd for windows rawrite? |
22:29.25 | tmzt | no, using openmoko exe rom that address |
22:29.30 | ali1234 | Marajin: it's not up to HTC, it's down to what's in the extrom |
22:29.30 | tmzt | no, using openmoko exe from that address |
22:29.42 | tmzt | with .tar.gz on vfat |
22:29.51 | Marajin | ali1234: I /know/ but if the carrier did that, they'd fuck up the saleability of the device |
22:30.10 | ginge_ | Marajin: you mean like the iphone *cough* |
22:30.16 | ali1234 | Marajin: just like the iPhone... |
22:30.17 | Marajin | precisely |
22:30.31 | Marajin | and the iPhone sold really badly in the UK/Germany initially |
22:30.32 | dcordes | tmzt: I believe that's most certainly a problem from RamsesII's side rather than somethign with the kernel |
22:30.56 | ginge_ | Marajin: thats because it was too costly and had no 3g |
22:30.57 | tmzt | right, but we needed standalone zImage to try haret |
22:31.08 | tmzt | but he doesn't have a linux with sd reader set up |
22:31.12 | Marajin | ginge_: And wouldn't let you do anything with it anyway after that yes :P |
22:31.41 | ginge_ | Marajin: now its a much more interesting product. Still crippled and shit, but better |
22:31.56 | dcordes | tmzt: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=tree;h=refs/heads/htc-omap;hb=refs/heads/htc-omap has magician |
22:32.01 | Marajin | Hardware = teh noice |
22:32.07 | Marajin | software = teh fucked |
22:32.09 | tmzt | I looked through that initramfs package in oe before and it looks like it can boot from a single vfat partition with ext2 image on it |
22:32.10 | dcordes | tmzt: I don't know what's more uptodate, ltg or hh |
22:32.27 | ali1234 | iphone lacks keyboard, therefor useless for me |
22:32.35 | tmzt | but we don't have any ext2 versions on htcpxa, and those are all a year old anyway (for magician) |
22:32.38 | ali1234 | even if it wasn't locked... |
22:32.43 | dcordes | tmzt: you can boot loopfiles directly from haret |
22:33.04 | tmzt | is there a way to extract the zImage from the exe, maybe reshacker? |
22:33.07 | ginge_ | ali1234: same here. its the only reason I get these phones |
22:33.28 | ali1234 | tmzt: the exe *is* haret, you can change the options by hexediting the end of the file |
22:33.41 | dcordes | tmzt: maybe with microsoft visual exe extract studio 2009, no clue |
22:33.52 | ptl | what's htc-omap? |
22:33.55 | dcordes | I see |
22:33.55 | tmzt | but they are resources in the exe? |
22:34.07 | tmzt | omap is ti chipset with arm and dsp |
22:34.16 | ptl | oh... thanks. |
22:34.34 | tmzt | well chip |
22:34.39 | tmzt | not chipset |
22:34.51 | tmzt | did you get that camera thing working? |
22:35.14 | dcordes | ginge_: did you look into the 3g networking thing on kaiser? |
22:35.34 | ginge_ | dcordes: fraid not. Unly just finished unpacking :/ |
22:35.37 | tmzt | it needs a shared memory netdev doesn't it |
22:36.18 | dcordes | ginge_: I think 3g data also goes through smd1 |
22:36.37 | dcordes | tmzt: yea that's what smd1 is, we use it for gprs now |
22:36.43 | tmzt | is that just lcp for setup though? |
22:36.52 | dcordes | lcp? |
22:37.02 | tmzt | at least some option cards use netdev |
22:37.12 | ginge_ | dcordes: trace the smd channels while switching between gprs3g and dspdspspdspsa, and send it over, I will take a look |
22:37.14 | tmzt | link control protocol? the basic protocol of ppp |
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22:38.24 | dcordes | ginge_: that's what just came to my mind, but I think the network data dumps we based the smd1 regs on, are all done while using 3g. I don't even know how to guse gprs in wince. |
22:38.42 | ginge_ | dcordes: I think you can disable 3g |
22:38.50 | ali1234 | registry hacks probably |
22:38.58 | Marajin | ginge_: Nope |
22:39.11 | Marajin | ginge_: You can disable gprs/edge/3g and force gsm only |
22:39.14 | dcordes | ginge_: I'm quite sure every time I did the memory dumps, I had the quite fast connection I always get |
22:39.17 | Marajin | ginge_: You can't force gprs only |
22:39.18 | ginge_ | Marajin: surely... |
22:39.36 | tmzt | can you change init strings? |
22:40.05 | ginge_ | maybe in the registry |
22:40.07 | dcordes | I bet it's only about different AT magic |
22:40.22 | ginge_ | almost certainly |
22:40.22 | dcordes | tmzt: why would we? |
22:40.24 | Marajin | I can get my kaiser to switch between gprs, edge and hsupa inside my own house tho' |
22:40.41 | Marajin | but it's based only on signal AFAIK |
22:40.49 | ginge_ | Marajin: is that the one that involves standing on a sleeping persons head? |
22:40.49 | dcordes | Marajin: it's automatically getting gprs? |
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22:41.29 | Marajin | ginge_: getting HSUPA does yeah |
22:41.46 | herriojr | dcords - did you create the android-data.bin file? |
22:41.46 | tmzt | funny, the lastest commit on git.android is about a netdev device |
22:42.03 | herriojr | dcords - I'm curious as to what file system type you used |
22:42.26 | herriojr | supposedly to install an application, I need to mount the package |
22:42.37 | dcordes | herriojr: which rootfs? |
22:43.01 | herriojr | whatever the root is for android-data.bin |
22:43.02 | dcordes | sorry android-data |
22:43.04 | RamsesII[LeSleep | I will try again tomorrow with a fresh mind and on Suse |
22:43.06 | RamsesII[LeSleep | night all |
22:43.17 | ginge_ | night |
22:43.22 | herriojr | or better yet, how can I figure that information out myself? |
22:43.23 | dcordes | herriojr: I put some changes by ginge in it |
22:43.44 | herriojr | how are you creating android-data.bin? |
22:44.11 | dcordes | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2273619&postcount=241 |
22:44.11 | herriojr | or rather, how do you mount it? |
22:44.13 | tmzt | to change what bearer is used? |
22:44.27 | dcordes | it's .cpio.gz, just gunzip and cpio extract it |
22:44.45 | dcordes | see the link above |
22:45.08 | herriojr | I was told by dto or whatever his name was, that I need to mount it |
22:45.14 | herriojr | I guess he didn't really know either :) |
22:45.29 | dcordes | maybe he was stressed up or so. |
22:45.41 | ginge_ | herriojr: he knows all to well :) |
22:46.25 | ginge_ | herriojr: easy enough to mount his images, but the android-bin is differently packaged |
22:47.03 | herriojr | hmm, I wonder what I'm doing wrong then....my app isn't showing in the main menu... |
22:48.06 | ginge_ | so you decompressed, adb pushed your app in but when you repackage its not there? |
22:48.42 | herriojr | oh, I can adp push it to something other than the emulator? |
22:48.51 | herriojr | I was manually copying it |
22:49.24 | ginge_ | I am not sure if a manual copy would work |
22:49.35 | herriojr | the iteresting thing is I did a diff of an empty running emulator with that of an emulator with an app installed, and the only difference was that the apk file was there |
22:49.43 | herriojr | but I guess you're right, that probably doesn't work |
22:49.51 | herriojr | ok, I'll try it and let you know |
22:50.12 | ginge_ | herriojr: I don't really know enough about it to say either way. I only wrote one hello world app for android |
22:51.14 | herriojr | ok |
22:51.15 | dcordes | herriojr: did you get the mail with the link to ginge's .25 patch, btw? |
22:51.32 | herriojr | yes, and it compiles |
22:51.42 | herriojr | I looked at it some yesterday, but I have to get this app installed first |
22:51.51 | herriojr | then I'll have more time to mess around with the kernel |
22:53.11 | dcordes | herriojr: what app do you need? |
22:54.33 | herriojr | it's a demo app, I work on cell phone software, it's part of my job :) |
22:55.18 | dcordes | oh that's interesting. maybe you can help us getting 3g in angstrom instead of gprs |
22:55.44 | dcordes | did you ask #android for help with installing that application? |
22:55.50 | tmzt | apk is like jar isn't it? |
22:55.53 | herriojr | yup |
22:56.04 | tmzt | is it a zip file |
22:56.09 | herriojr | it is a jar, just has a different extension |
22:56.22 | herriojr | well, not exactly a jar |
22:56.27 | herriojr | actually, you're right, it's a zip |
22:56.30 | herriojr | I forgot, soryr |
22:56.32 | herriojr | *sorry |
22:56.46 | tmzt | we'll jar is zip too, plus manifest, I think |
22:57.02 | herriojr | ah ok |
22:57.12 | tmzt | but it could just be loading it from the apk like jar files with java |
22:57.13 | herriojr | I usually deal with BREW code, so I don't do much java |
22:57.25 | herriojr | yeah |
22:57.48 | ginge_ | brew... cracking idea. brb |
22:57.54 | herriojr | lol |
22:58.09 | herriojr | so what's with 3g in angstrom? |
22:59.57 | ginge_ | um we need the at commands to enable it |
23:00.01 | ginge_ | assuming thats how it works? |
23:00.33 | dcordes | ginge_: wrote a script that makes the arm9 connect to gprs using smd0, the AT channel, and provide networking data through smd1, which is then used by ppp to bring up the connection |
23:00.38 | dcordes | or similar ^^ |
23:02.24 | dcordes | ginge_: aren't the 3g data commands in dzo's rilphone? |
23:02.53 | ginge_ | no, cdma |
23:03.27 | dcordes | yea sure but the gsm phone works also with his stuff? |
23:03.41 | dcordes | so I assumed he made it sort of hybrid |
23:03.45 | ginge_ | thats different |
23:04.13 | ginge_ | the phone part is standard at, the other data stuff is more specific subsets |
23:04.36 | tmzt | http://git.android.com/?p=linux-msm.git;a=commitdiff;h=4db65641e76c7ab8006deba56e29662da78531ed |
23:05.10 | dcordes | ginge_: so the phone commands are equal on cdma and gsm? |
23:05.25 | ginge_ | yeah, its just atdt1234567 |
23:05.36 | ginge_ | same as dialling a modem |
23:05.45 | dcordes | ginge_: did you see that commit tmzt points to? |
23:05.52 | tmzt | atd#777 for cdma |
23:05.54 | dcordes | I was also wondering what it does |
23:06.03 | ginge_ | yes |
23:06.03 | tmzt | that is the old commit, the tip of git.android is the newest |
23:06.49 | ginge_ | dcordes: is this interesting? |
23:08.05 | dcordes | The MSM7X00A baseband makes up to 3 "virtual ethernet" channels available, |
23:08.05 | dcordes | which allow ethernet packets to be exchanged with the cellular network, once |
23:08.05 | dcordes | an appropriate data connection is established. |
23:08.30 | dcordes | is smd1 a virtual ethernet channel? |
23:08.30 | tmzt | where are asm headers in the kernel tree |
23:09.44 | ali1234 | include/asm-* |
23:09.55 | dcordes | ginge_: |
23:10.05 | dcordes | http://git.android.com/?p=kernel.git;a=summary |
23:10.20 | dcordes | msm_rmnet: Move all smd processing into a tasklet. |
23:10.51 | tmzt | SMD_PORT_ETHER0 is the first channel for veth |
23:10.58 | tmzt | looking it up |
23:11.07 | dcordes | http://git.android.com/?p=kernel.git;a=tree;f=include/asm-arm/arch-msm;hb=HEAD |
23:11.55 | ginge_ | dcordes: all that is in my port list. The whole of smd stuff needs a rewrite I think |
23:13.09 | tmzt | I am also looking for that modem card driver that has this working, but I can't remember which one, not option |
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23:15.14 | Marajin | hmm |
23:15.29 | Marajin | did anyone try the kaiser hardware 3D drivers under windowsmobile, It's my guess that they're not working |
23:18.33 | herriojr | if I remember correctly, they don't exist |
23:18.34 | dcordes_ | tmzt: are you speaking of an msm7200 pci modem? |
23:18.51 | Marajin | herriojr: They made some! |
23:18.55 | tmzt | might be |
23:18.58 | dcordes_ | Marajin: they do, xmoo told me about it. |
23:18.59 | herriojr | really? I couldn't find them! |
23:19.09 | ginge_ | Marajin: orly? |
23:19.14 | Marajin | dcordes_: No, they don't work on my kaiser is my point. |
23:19.40 | Marajin | dcordes_: The dllcheck says everything's ok and it flags as hardware but the 3D stuff doesn't even TRY to render correctly. |
23:20.05 | herriojr | can you link me to the drivers? |
23:20.08 | Marajin | dcordes_: Mostly it renders nothing until I trigger screen updates by opening startmenu/keyboard |
23:20.16 | Marajin | herriojr: http://www.htcclassaction.org |
23:20.24 | Marajin | the red box at the top has a link to the page about the drivers |
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23:21.29 | dcordes_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg6FtbNRY_w |
23:23.17 | Marajin | dcordes_: Yeah see, all the popups Ig et but then it goes to a blank screen and I don't see the cylinder unless I try to open keyboard or something |
23:23.22 | Marajin | (on screen keyboard that is) |
23:23.38 | herriojr | haret has been really flaky for me lately |
23:24.03 | herriojr | even when clearing temp, it starts 1/7 times |
23:24.10 | dcordes_ | herriojr: you run on the stock shipped rom? |
23:24.25 | herriojr | I tried to find an update, but I couldn't find it |
23:24.35 | herriojr | here, I'll post my rom version, just a sec |
23:26.18 | herriojr | ROM version: 1.62.502.0 |
23:26.19 | dcordes_ | in the dutty's diamon rom for kaiser it works 100% of the attempts |
23:26.29 | dcordes_ | I have May 22nd diamond rom |
23:26.54 | herriojr | do you have a link? |
23:27.38 | dcordes_ | wait a minute |
23:28.38 | tmzt | it's got to be option gt but I can't find it now |
23:28.53 | herriojr | ok |
23:29.14 | Marajin | .. |
23:29.16 | Marajin | my god |
23:29.29 | Marajin | someone made a legitimate use for the accelerometer in the diamond? |
23:29.46 | ginge_ | which is... |
23:29.51 | Marajin | spirit level :D |
23:29.58 | ginge_ | hahahah |
23:30.01 | ginge_ | awesome |
23:30.11 | Marajin | well ya know it actually..is a decent use for it |
23:30.13 | ginge_ | 10/10 on that one |
23:30.32 | Marajin | I mean... lightsabers and playing some silly tilting games.. |
23:30.33 | Marajin | heh |
23:30.37 | Marajin | I have a Wii so big deal |
23:30.48 | ginge_ | put it in my car and measure the gs arouns corners and plot against gps :) |
23:30.51 | Marajin | but being able to use it as a digital spirit level.. no that's actually useful |
23:30.59 | Marajin | ginge_: Mad driver? :P |
23:31.13 | ginge_ | Marajin: not at all, but worth it just once :) |
23:31.24 | Marajin | heh =) |
23:31.42 | Marajin | I could take it in the car with my dad, he's disturbing at times |
23:31.45 | Marajin | ex rally driver heh |
23:31.52 | ginge_ | fun |
23:31.55 | Marajin | you'd get some bloody interesting plots then |
23:31.59 | Marajin | well lemme see |
23:32.03 | dcordes_ | herriojr: cand find it anywhere. maybe you could try a newer one |
23:32.16 | dcordes_ | can't |
23:32.19 | herriojr | is this it? http://www.duttythroy.net/download-area.html?task=viewcategory&catid=7 |
23:33.38 | Marajin | ginge_: oh wait you're still kb counting, nevermind :p |
23:33.46 | Marajin | anyway, there's a very dippy/twisty road near here |
23:33.56 | Marajin | if he gets a new car then he drives down that road at er 140-150 |
23:34.12 | Marajin | we're talking blind turns and dips/rises every few seconds at that speed |
23:34.13 | ginge_ | Marajin: what is it? |
23:34.18 | dcordes_ | herriojr: this looks more recent |
23:34.23 | ginge_ | heh |
23:34.36 | ginge_ | I woulndnt mind seeing that |
23:34.43 | Marajin | I was gonna link you the road on googlemaps to show the silliness, then again it looks quite normal |
23:34.46 | Marajin | on googlemaps |
23:34.52 | Marajin | though the terrain overlay nowadays hels |
23:34.53 | Marajin | *helps |
23:35.35 | herriojr | does dutty's diamond rom contain the 3d drivers? |
23:36.19 | Marajin | herriojr: No, only one rom rolls them in |
23:36.24 | Marajin | herriojr: and that's a german one |
23:37.08 | Marajin | ginge_: It's... not that fun when you realise that this is a road where if there IS another car you're likely to smack into it |
23:37.19 | Marajin | you don't get much braking time ya know |
23:37.44 | ginge_ | I was in a car today with a guy driving down the m62 at 135mph. scared the crap out of me... it was pissing it down |
23:37.49 | Marajin | you might get the first Uh of uhoh out before you piledrive into the back of them |
23:38.02 | Marajin | ginge_: Actually I had to give the old man his due last time, he was doing it in a diesel |
23:38.29 | ginge_ | some diesels give some good horse these days |
23:38.37 | Marajin | 135hp I think |
23:38.38 | Marajin | heh |
23:38.43 | Marajin | 2 litre |
23:38.50 | Marajin | *bhp |
23:39.05 | ginge_ | insane |
23:39.27 | Marajin | he's pretty sure it'd peg the speedo given chance |
23:39.37 | Marajin | oh it might be 165 |
23:39.47 | dcordes_ | herriojr: I would just try the latest diamond image |
23:39.54 | Marajin | I had to talk him out of getting a V8 model heh |
23:39.58 | herriojr | ok |
23:40.10 | Marajin | Those things have been proven to be good for 200mph + |
23:40.54 | ginge_ | thats not right |
23:40.59 | ginge_ | whats the point? |
23:41.05 | Marajin | um |
23:41.21 | Marajin | the 1.8 astra diesel panda cars would be a bit screwed :P |
23:41.30 | Marajin | "Roger, I'm in... mildly tepid persuit!" |
23:41.57 | ginge_ | lol |
23:42.58 | Marajin | Whenever I see them I have a vision of the policeman sat there during their little hide with the radar gun sessions gripping the wheel and imaging he had a DBSR-9 and going "Brumbrum!" |
23:43.08 | Marajin | It's no wonder nobody takes the british police seriously anymore is it? |
23:43.18 | herriojr | can I install the rom without switching to windows? |
23:43.39 | Marajin | herriojr: um technically I think you can flash it from sd yeah |
23:43.46 | herriojr | ok cool |
23:43.49 | ginge_ | whats the htcflasher thing |
23:44.14 | Marajin | htcflasher? It has a transparent casing or something? ;) |
23:44.33 | ginge_ | new phone... htc kinky |
23:44.37 | Marajin | heh |
23:44.48 | Marajin | randomly flashes naked pictures of steve ballmer on the screen? |
23:44.56 | Marajin | passes ginge_ the vomit bucket. |
23:45.15 | ginge_ | takes photos of your nads in the pocket and posts them to facebook |
23:45.24 | Marajin | oh my kaiser does that! |
23:45.29 | herriojr | google search: Did you mean: hotflusher  |
23:45.29 | Marajin | luckily it has no flash eh? |
23:45.49 | ginge_ | I did a massive hotflusher earlier :) |
23:45.57 | herriojr | lol |
23:46.07 | Marajin | Oh come now ginge_, turd jokes? We're supposed to be intelligent people here |
23:46.20 | ginge_ | it always comes down to that :) |
23:46.27 | Marajin | Not always |
23:46.46 | Marajin | sings out, "Isn't it awfully nice to have a penis?.... Isn't it frightfully good to have a dong!" |
23:46.54 | Marajin | sometimes it comes down to sex and genitals |
23:47.57 | ginge_ | boxlocate.sh bluetack |
23:48.01 | ginge_ | oops |
23:48.10 | Marajin | Personally though I always got worried at "You can wrap it up in ribbons..." |
23:48.13 | ptl | and religion |
23:48.16 | Marajin | INteresting concept :P |
23:48.27 | Marajin | ptl: ... No, no you're a little off track there I think |
23:48.33 | ptl | is it? |
23:48.41 | Marajin | ptl: When have we had a conversation about religion on here? |
23:48.44 | ptl | I think that where there's sex and genitals, there's religion |
23:49.09 | ginge_ | <PROTECTED> |
23:49.09 | Marajin | nah, nobody in the bible had sex! |
23:49.35 | ginge_ | damn where is that bluetack |
23:49.44 | Marajin | stuck to my floor I think ginge_ |
23:49.52 | ginge_ | lol |
23:49.54 | Marajin | I dropped some months ago and rolled over it with my chair |
23:50.10 | Marajin | bluetack squashed into carpet by 18.5 stone fat geek in a chair? :P |
23:50.15 | Marajin | it's there for life man |
23:50.26 | Marajin | and it was like a half a pack of bluetack to |
23:50.27 | Marajin | *too |
23:50.42 | ginge_ | you will need to cut it out with a knife and replace it with a bit from under the cupboard if you ever move :) |
23:50.55 | Marajin | it's right in the MIDDLE of the floor man |
23:51.11 | Marajin | and there's no spare for this carpet =/ |
23:51.20 | Marajin | It's new carpet I fear |
23:52.24 | Marajin | the carpet is plain buggered.. years of me rolling over it with a chair has flattened and stretched half of it |
23:52.48 | ginge_ | hoverchairs.. its the future |
23:53.12 | herriojr | wouldn't let me install dutty's |
23:53.16 | Marajin | ginge_: THAT my boy, depends on where the chairs direct their downward force. |
23:53.32 | Marajin | See if it was a simple repulsor concept then theoretically it would still crush carpet. |
23:53.48 | Marajin | Magnetic suspension would be difficult to control |
23:53.56 | ginge_ | Marajin: how about you move the earth away from the chair |
23:54.02 | Marajin | Anti-grav... well we're not even sure that's possible |
23:55.29 | ginge_ | if you ever have time to kill and you want to laugh at pseudoscience.... www.americanantigravity.com |
23:55.31 | dcordes_ | herriojr: are you flashing from linux? |
23:55.33 | Marajin | and conventional propulsion would just set the carpet on fire and/r be too loud |
23:55.47 | Marajin | american antigravity? |
23:55.51 | Marajin | /american/ anti-gravity? |
23:56.07 | Marajin | Is that based on themhaving their own gravitational distorion fields? |
23:56.11 | ginge_ | Marajin: did you not know that anti grav only works over there? |
23:56.18 | Marajin | is this the reason for obesity?! |
23:56.27 | ginge_ | lol |
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23:57.31 | Marajin | well |
23:57.38 | Marajin | when the US floats away into space.. |
23:57.40 | Marajin | frankly.. |
23:57.43 | Marajin | I'll applaud ;) |
23:57.58 | ginge_ | oooo harsh |
23:58.09 | herriojr | I guess I'm the only American here :) |
23:58.22 | Marajin | I might be american and I just hate the rest of the world ;) |
23:58.38 | herriojr | true :) |
23:58.41 | dcordes_ | I'm in Germany |
23:58.55 | Marajin | actually I'm british and I just hate everything but yeah :p |
23:59.07 | Marajin | <-- Equal opportunities hater. |
23:59.13 | herriojr | oh don't worry, I hate the US government |
23:59.15 | ginge_ | that goes without saying, you are british |
23:59.18 | herriojr | so you can bash it all you want :) |
23:59.33 | Marajin | there's no point bashing the US government |
23:59.54 | Marajin | It's kinda like kicking a kid with cerebral palsy in the nuts |