| 00:00.37 | dcordes | so you drive one? |
| 00:00.43 | tcccp | no but I have tattoos |
| 00:00.52 | dcordes | so you're semi rocker only |
| 00:01.05 | tcccp | At the moment I have nothing but dues |
| 00:01.13 | tcccp | I sold my bike last year |
| 00:01.18 | dcordes | I westafrica I haven't seen so many rockers :) |
| 00:01.29 | marajin | anyway, basic point is, 60 euros doesn't go very far for me |
| 00:01.34 | tcccp | I have two Volkswagen Transporters from 1985 and 1990. One is ready to fly |
| 00:01.44 | dcordes | :D |
| 00:01.46 | tcccp | the other one has a broken engine |
| 00:01.54 | dcordes | so you used to use them for transporting the bike? |
| 00:02.19 | tcccp | I use Volkswagen Transporters for almost everything that requires "mobile storage" ;) |
| 00:02.36 | marajin | So, sleep time :P |
| 00:02.42 | tcccp | nightynite |
| 00:02.52 | marajin | night tcccp |
| 00:03.02 | tcccp | is watching a mouse giving birth |
| 00:03.07 | tcccp | Very entertaining |
| 00:03.31 | dcordes | crazy |
| 00:03.53 | tcccp | dcordes: I breed rats, mice and scorpions |
| 00:04.12 | tcccp | I have never come to see a rodent giving birth. |
| 00:04.17 | tcccp | This time I'm there ;) |
| 00:04.41 | dcordes | congrats man |
| 00:04.56 | tcccp | They're for nutritive purposes |
| 00:05.58 | tcccp | For my ball pythons for example |
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| 00:31.28 | wasup | wtf? |
| 00:31.36 | tcccp | hm/ |
| 00:31.37 | tcccp | ? |
| 00:31.38 | wasup | i just read the whole conversation |
| 00:31.40 | wasup | hahaha |
| 00:31.43 | wasup | thats cool |
| 00:31.53 | tcccp | rather...necessary than cool but...yes |
| 00:32.16 | wasup | how many pythons u got? |
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| 00:33.32 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: are you there? |
| 00:40.28 | tmzt | hey, nighthawk08, what we're you guys working on, I really had to go last time |
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| 02:29.01 | dcordes | tmzt: ping? |
| 02:30.13 | miknix | finally |
| 02:30.20 | miknix | I booted from EOL :) |
| 02:30.29 | dcordes | miknix: hey congrats |
| 02:30.59 | AstainMBL | eol? |
| 02:31.47 | miknix | dcordes, this will simplify things a lot.. no more wm5 strange hardware behavior is left for linux |
| 02:32.58 | dcordes | miknix: except of the states the bootloader leaves, right |
| 02:34.01 | miknix | going to sleep. good night all |
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| 02:46.36 | nighthawk08 | cr2: are you there? |
| 02:47.01 | dcordes | nighthawk08: you pinged me earlier? |
| 02:47.07 | nighthawk08 | ye |
| 02:47.15 | dcordes | how can I be of help? |
| 02:47.17 | nighthawk08 | tmzt told me you might help... |
| 02:47.35 | dcordes | shoot |
| 02:48.44 | nighthawk08 | I'm trying to install using HaRET the Angstrom linux on my HTC Himalaya,. I think there might be a problem with the extraction of the linux on the EXT2 partition... because HaRET log presents that everything is ok, and it seems to boot fine, but it doesn't come to the linux, and I do not see the linux being loaded.... |
| 02:49.16 | nighthawk08 | or maybe the definition of the partition, I do not know exactly... |
| 02:49.26 | dcordes | what is the last thing you see? Does it hang at some place? |
| 02:50.11 | nighthawk08 | the log of the HaRET sais (last line) "Go Go Go..." -- and the boot presents in the last line "Jumping to kernel..." |
| 02:52.21 | nighthawk08 | I am using the latest version of angstrom files, both in the boot process and in the linux extraction (AKA Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r16-h3900.rootfs.tar.gz) -- I tried the old files R06 and it presented the same last lines,. log presented same situation.... |
| 02:53.04 | nighthawk08 | it just stopps woring after these last lines.. |
| 02:56.00 | dcordes | this sounds to me like haret is not able to switch to the kernel correctly. |
| 02:56.32 | nighthawk08 | what can I do about it? |
| 02:56.40 | dcordes | On the kaiser, if it cannot boot from sd, it still uploads the kernel, shows the bootup messages on the framebuffer and then errors. |
| 02:57.12 | dcordes | could you tell me where you downloaded all files you use, so I can get a batter understanding of what you have there? |
| 02:57.17 | nighthawk08 | whats "kaiser"? |
| 02:57.31 | dcordes | another htc phone, based on msm7200 chipset |
| 02:58.14 | nighthawk08 | what do you think should be my next step debugging that? |
| 02:58.51 | dcordes | I really have no clue. would you like to show me the images you use? |
| 03:00.13 | nighthawk08 | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/releases/2007.12/images/h3900/ |
| 03:02.21 | dcordes | nighthawk08: is h3900=himalaya? |
| 03:02.45 | nighthawk08 | ye |
| 03:03.10 | nighthawk08 | I rechecked the version of the machine, but running the HaRET 0.51 and it checks the version, it said it is himalaya |
| 03:03.21 | nighthawk08 | * by |
| 03:03.34 | nighthawk08 | by rnning the haret 0.51 |
| 03:06.25 | dcordes | nighthawk08: sorry I can't see where anything says that the himalaya is also known as ipaq h3900 |
| 03:06.36 | dcordes | nighthawk08: where did you find that information? |
| 03:06.45 | nighthawk08 | hmm.... wait I know I read it on the web,. I'll check for the link |
| 03:06.57 | dcordes | ok |
| 03:07.07 | dcordes | do you have the handhelds.org kernel tree? |
| 03:07.25 | nighthawk08 | what do you mean? |
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| 03:10.03 | dcordes | nighthawk08: nevermind. I think himalaya is not h3900 |
| 03:10.52 | nighthawk08 | oh,. might be mistaken -- do you know where can I find the version of the himalaya? |
| 03:11.08 | dcordes | nighthawk08: handhelds.org kernel tree is where the source code for htchimalaya is hosted |
| 03:17.56 | dcordes | nighthawk08: shall I make you a kernel? |
| 03:18.10 | nighthawk08 | can you make it for my device? |
| 03:18.20 | dcordes | yes |
| 03:18.43 | nighthawk08 | cool,. |
| 03:19.12 | nighthawk08 | where can I download from the X11 for the device itself? |
| 03:20.05 | nighthawk08 | check this page: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting -- seems they got a working kernel for the himalaya |
| 03:20.12 | nighthawk08 | but how do I install the X11? |
| 03:20.20 | dcordes | oldschool |
| 03:20.27 | nighthawk08 | ? |
| 03:20.33 | dcordes | let's get you an up to date root filesystem. |
| 03:21.21 | dcordes | you can try this, but it is _really_ old http://himalaya.iclem.net./himalaya.html |
| 03:22.14 | nighthawk08 | the gpe is missing there.... |
| 03:22.44 | dcordes | let's use one from the OE autobuilder. |
| 03:23.39 | nighthawk08 | you'd have to explain,. I am a newbie in this pda linux thingies... what is "OE autobuilder"? |
| 03:24.11 | dcordes | http://www.angstrom-distribution.org/unstable/autobuild/ |
| 03:24.49 | dcordes | there are no build for himalaya, but we can simply take an image for any other qvga device and install the modules into it. |
| 03:25.18 | dcordes | I'd say blueangel |
| 03:25.25 | nighthawk08 | ok |
| 03:26.04 | nighthawk08 | shall I download the Angstrom-x11-image-glibc-ipk-2007.12-r16-htcblueangel.rootfs.tar.gz and extract it? |
| 03:26.27 | dcordes | no I will do it for you |
| 03:26.32 | nighthawk08 | ok |
| 03:26.39 | dcordes | you need to install the modules into the root file system. |
| 03:27.24 | nighthawk08 | which modules? |
| 03:27.32 | dcordes | kernel modules (drivers and so) |
| 03:27.54 | nighthawk08 | oh,. you mean the zImage file? |
| 03:28.20 | dcordes | no I alrady have the zImage file. |
| 03:29.25 | nighthawk08 | you'd have to gude me step by step,.... where do I find the kernel modules for the himalaya? |
| 03:29.32 | dcordes | you can put all the drivers and so into the kernel, so you have everything necessary for the system inside the zImage. or you can have make let you build the zImage and 'outsource' several driver and stuff as modules |
| 03:30.21 | dcordes | since himalya obviously can do many things, it needs many drivers. so people do decide to not build everything into the kernel but to also have modules |
| 03:30.40 | nighthawk08 | ha |
| 03:31.13 | nighthawk08 | how do I begin preparing that? |
| 03:31.22 | nighthawk08 | where do I begin....? |
| 03:31.40 | dcordes | wait a minute. I'm doing it for you know |
| 03:31.42 | dcordes | now |
| 03:31.51 | nighthawk08 | ok,. |
| 03:32.12 | nighthawk08 | put all the modules inside, I got plenty of space in the sd -- about 900mb |
| 03:32.47 | nighthawk08 | well 800mb to say exact... |
| 03:33.45 | dcordes | yea, I'm building from defconfig |
| 03:33.57 | dcordes | let's see if it gave you the ext2 filesystem |
| 03:34.14 | dcordes | ok, included. |
| 03:34.42 | nighthawk08 | ok |
| 03:35.29 | dcordes | I hope the blueangel rootfs will work on your himalaya |
| 03:35.39 | nighthawk08 | me too |
| 03:35.40 | dcordes | do you know if the phone is supported by linux on himalaya? |
| 03:36.21 | nighthawk08 | not for sure... I hope it will support everything |
| 03:37.23 | dcordes | well, in a normal X11 filesystem you won't be able to test |
| 03:37.25 | dcordes | it has no phone apps |
| 03:37.52 | nighthawk08 | are there any phone apps that I can install? |
| 03:38.19 | nighthawk08 | and there is the issue of putting into text,. I need a visual capability to preset a virtual keboard to use the terminal in there... |
| 03:40.47 | dcordes | x11-image should bring an on screen keyboard |
| 03:40.55 | nighthawk08 | ok |
| 03:40.55 | dcordes | which you can use to entirely control the UI |
| 03:42.01 | dcordes | uploading |
| 03:42.08 | dcordes | now let's get a recent haret and bootscript |
| 03:42.28 | nighthawk08 | ok |
| 03:45.41 | dcordes | nighthawk08: do you already have your sd partitioned? |
| 03:46.02 | nighthawk08 | I got the two partitions ready,. the EXT2 and the VFAT |
| 03:46.20 | dcordes | first is vfat, right? |
| 03:46.24 | nighthawk08 | ye |
| 03:46.35 | dcordes | remove all the linux stuff you got on both of them, please. |
| 03:46.58 | dcordes | to my understanding, it is for the wrong device anyway |
| 03:47.03 | dcordes | so you do not need it any longer |
| 03:47.44 | nighthawk08 | cleaed... |
| 03:47.48 | nighthawk08 | cleaned |
| 03:48.01 | dcordes | are you sure everything on the ext2 is rm -rf'D? |
| 03:48.17 | nighthawk08 | ye sure... |
| 03:53.16 | dcordes | ok |
| 03:53.27 | nighthawk08 | with you.. |
| 03:53.35 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/himalaya/ |
| 03:54.53 | dcordes | basically the same as you did with the ipaq stuff. put everything except of the root file system on vfat and extract th tarball to your ext2 |
| 03:54.57 | dcordes | as root. |
| 03:55.19 | dcordes | man I hope this works |
| 03:55.56 | nighthawk08 | ok,. checking, and opening the tar now... |
| 03:56.49 | dcordes | I'm reading a bit about himalya's phone hardware |
| 03:59.21 | dcordes | hope this kernel will do _anything_ |
| 04:00.02 | nighthawk08 | what is the exact command to open a bz2 file? |
| 04:01.11 | dcordes | you can use bunzip2 <file> or the j swith in tar. tar xjvf <file> |
| 04:02.11 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Connectors I like the diy car handsfree :D |
| 04:05.08 | nighthawk08 | booting the hima |
| 04:05.27 | nighthawk08 | fine it runs.. showing the progress bar while loading... |
| 04:05.50 | nighthawk08 | though I see a white strip vertical to the display |
| 04:06.40 | nighthawk08 | I can not use the touch screen,. |
| 04:06.48 | nighthawk08 | it loaded the linux yet, I can not control it.. |
| 04:08.07 | dcordes | nighthawk08: ok at least, that's something |
| 04:08.33 | nighthawk08 | it is something, but no touchscreen.... :( |
| 04:08.37 | dcordes | now we need to look why the touchscreen is not working. let me see if the driver is built-in or module. |
| 04:09.09 | nighthawk08 | gotta go for half an hour,. would you be here later? |
| 04:09.52 | dcordes | ok, CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_TSC2200=y |
| 04:10.15 | dcordes | this means your touch screen driver is built in the kernel, so it is only angstrom not using the touchscreen. |
| 04:10.16 | nighthawk08 | where should I put this script? |
| 04:10.31 | dcordes | nowhere, it is part of the default kernel configuration. |
| 04:10.41 | dcordes | (for hima) |
| 04:10.41 | nighthawk08 | oh |
| 04:11.01 | nighthawk08 | ,. well,. gotta go for a half hour,. be back later |
| 04:11.06 | dcordes | we should get some (working) himalaya root file system and steal the configurations there. |
| 04:11.20 | dcordes | not sure if I will still be around then, otherwise catch my up later |
| 04:11.25 | dcordes | me |
| 04:11.44 | nighthawk08 | ok,. thanks for the help anyways,. I'll catych you later today,. |
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| 04:38.02 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: hi |
| 04:38.30 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: I meant maybe you could help him with the tar thing as I had to go |
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| 05:15.21 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: are you there? |
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| 07:33.43 | BabelO_ | hi |
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| 07:58.37 | rob_w | dcordes: ur working on kaiser and polaris, correct ? well i am now trying to see how far the kaiser stuff gets on a htc nike.. so which haret.exe are you currently using ? |
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| 08:31.06 | BabelO_ | rob_w: all here :) http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
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| 09:11.56 | rob_w | hey dcordes, do you have problems with the linux-kaiser git ? |
| 09:21.04 | BabelO_ | rob_w: hi, did you try the linuxtogo zImage ? |
| 09:21.22 | rob_w | no .. i wanted to roll my own |
| 09:21.44 | rob_w | but i am still not good enough using git to get the correct branch i think |
| 09:22.24 | BabelO_ | rob_w: just do a git clone .... |
| 09:22.32 | BabelO_ | then do git checkout htc-msm |
| 09:22.41 | rob_w | dont i need the htc-msm branch ? |
| 09:22.44 | BabelO_ | and check with git branch that there is a star |
| 09:23.41 | BabelO_ | rob_w: this is what i do for htc-omap branch |
| 09:23.53 | BabelO_ | rob_w: git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git |
| 09:23.55 | BabelO_ | rob_w: then |
| 09:24.02 | BabelO_ | rob_w: git checkout htc-omap |
| 09:24.15 | rob_w | git checkout htc-msm |
| 09:24.16 | rob_w | error: pathspec 'htc-msm' did not match any file(s) known to git. |
| 09:24.16 | rob_w | Did you forget to 'git add'? |
| 09:24.29 | BabelO_ | rob_w: no need of git add |
| 09:24.40 | BabelO_ | rob_w: you already do the clone command ? |
| 09:24.59 | rob_w | clone i did .. . do i need to pull then ? |
| 09:25.26 | BabelO_ | rob_w: git branch ? |
| 09:25.38 | rob_w | git branch |
| 09:25.38 | rob_w | * master |
| 09:25.40 | BabelO_ | rob_w: else you have the snapshot dolution :) |
| 09:25.54 | BabelO_ | rob_w: ok, you are on master branch |
| 09:26.17 | rob_w | git clone -n git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git was what i did |
| 09:26.59 | rob_w | so without branches i normally do a git pull and i have the sources but with branches i am new |
| 09:27.06 | BabelO_ | rob_w: git branch --track htc-msm origin/htc-msm |
| 09:27.13 | BabelO_ | then git checkout htc-msm |
| 09:28.21 | rob_w | OOOkay .. thanks for that one |
| 09:29.12 | BabelO_ | rob_w: should be ok like this |
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| 09:35.29 | rob_w | tell me one more thing . which haret.exe do i want to use ? |
| 09:35.47 | rob_w | likely one which doenst delete my M$ |
| 09:36.21 | rob_w | brb |
| 09:38.04 | BabelO_ | rob_w: take the one from here http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
| 09:43.44 | rob_w | excellent |
| 09:45.20 | rob_w | seems dcordes is doing a fine job |
| 09:47.48 | rob_w | so now i just wanna find the way to transfer all that to the nike. .. unfortunatly its not a usb-storage |
| 10:03.22 | okias | rob_w: use WM5torage, this program can emulate usbmassstorage... |
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| 10:59.36 | marbalon | hi everyone, there is someone who try to make a call on Kaiser under linux or Android ? |
| 11:01.19 | marbalon | I tried on 1.65.24.46 radio version and didn't working |
| 11:01.44 | marbalon | what radio version are you using ? |
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| 11:18.32 | rob_w | so i booted my nike ! |
| 11:19.03 | rob_w | its feels as the kernel starts but i cant see anything ... seems i need to concentrate at the framebuffer .. dcordes ? |
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| 11:29.31 | marbalon | rob_w: why do you think it is booted ok ? |
| 11:29.41 | rob_w | as hte leds do some magic .. |
| 11:30.36 | marbalon | rob_w: hmm on kaiser there is no led confirmation about linux boot |
| 11:30.56 | marbalon | rob_w: how haret detect nike ? |
| 11:31.18 | rob_w | arm generic |
| 11:32.28 | marbalon | maybe this is a problem... |
| 11:32.58 | marbalon | i'm not a haret expert but its "tell" kernel what machine detect |
| 11:33.12 | rob_w | with the MACHID .. right |
| 11:33.35 | marbalon | I think .. |
| 11:33.40 | marbalon | what kernel are you using ? |
| 11:33.58 | rob_w | my own rolled and the kaiser one |
| 11:34.08 | rob_w | with a kaiser defconfig |
| 11:34.55 | marbalon | I think led blinking because of keyboard driver |
| 11:35.16 | rob_w | right thats was my thought also .. so that would mean the kernel starts at least |
| 11:35.18 | marbalon | try to disable it in configuration and check |
| 11:36.06 | rob_w | disable what ? |
| 11:36.21 | marbalon | we have this problem on kaiser too sometimes booted but without screen confirmation |
| 11:36.40 | marbalon | keyboard driver in kernel configuration |
| 11:37.07 | marbalon | try to use smaller initrd file |
| 11:37.39 | rob_w | CONFIG_INPUT_KEYBOARD=y ?? this one or a msm specific one ? |
| 11:37.50 | marbalon | no, moment |
| 11:39.32 | marbalon | kernel-kaiser/arch/arm/mach-msm/Makefile |
| 11:39.45 | marbalon | obj-$(CONFIG_MACH_HTCKAISER) += board-htckaiser.o 7x00-irq.o tsc2003.o board-kaiser-keypad.o |
| 11:39.52 | marbalon | remove board-kaiser-keypad.o |
| 11:40.05 | rob_w | rgr |
| 11:40.36 | marbalon | there is no option in menu config |
| 11:40.58 | rob_w | rgr |
| 11:43.31 | marbalon | try to use this initrd http://baliniak.pl/~balon/android/initrd-linuxbox.zip |
| 11:44.59 | rob_w | which one is this ? |
| 11:50.56 | marbalon | it is small |
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| 11:51.17 | marbalon | we have a problems with big initrd on kaiser too |
| 11:59.37 | BabelO_ | rob_w: can you force the KAISER type ID ? |
| 12:01.47 | BabelO_ | rob_w: set MTYPE 1553 |
| 12:02.28 | rob_w | still no luck .. did the keyboard hack and used marbalon initrd .. still seems booting ( blue led starts , yellow dark then blinking ) but no framebuffer |
| 12:02.33 | rob_w | how could i force that? |
| 12:03.03 | rob_w | ah sorry yeah that is in my default.txt |
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| 12:08.11 | rob_w | bbl |
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| 12:34.08 | BabelO_ | hey someone register artemis another time on arm linux devices |
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| 13:48.54 | rob_w | re |
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| 13:51.59 | rob_w | where where we ? .. ah right , framebuffer |
| 13:55.37 | rob_w | who did all this kaiser stuff ? msm has a heavy amount of drivers , cool |
| 13:58.29 | BabelO_ | rob_w: maybe try with earlyboot log file for haret, you can see the framebuffer adress |
| 13:58.42 | BabelO_ | rob_w: or it is a lcd power issue |
| 13:58.58 | rob_w | k ,, lcd stays atually at the windows screen |
| 13:59.14 | rob_w | so "power" stays on .. |
| 14:00.19 | rob_w | putting a earlyboot.txt next to haret should do the trick , right ? |
| 14:02.19 | BabelO_ | rob_w: yes, not sure about the file naming |
| 14:02.31 | rob_w | i double check |
| 14:03.34 | rob_w | earlyharetlog.txt |
| 14:03.34 | BabelO_ | rob_w: earlyharetboot.txt |
| 14:03.41 | rob_w | hehe |
| 14:03.42 | BabelO_ | ah :) |
| 14:03.45 | BabelO_ | maybe better |
| 14:05.14 | rob_w | uhh somethuing happenes |
| 14:05.55 | cr2 | rob_w: hi |
| 14:06.01 | rob_w | hi cr2 |
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| 14:06.13 | cr2 | rob_w: is nike a registered mtype ? |
| 14:07.05 | rob_w | so do actualy now got a kernel bootmsg .. but its not aligned to the screen but i can idenfity clear kernel things, loop, ppp modules loading even mmc |
| 14:07.10 | rob_w | dunno |
| 14:10.37 | rob_w | i cant find something at http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines |
| 14:11.15 | knobo` | cr2: har you working with the hermes? |
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| 14:14.12 | cr2 | knobo`: yes |
| 14:18.20 | rob_w | 1852 HTC Nike htcnike Robert Woerle - unknown - ;-) |
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| 14:28.00 | cr2 | rob_w: ok. have you check the FB location, 0x1f* area and so on ? |
| 14:28.48 | rob_w | not yet |
| 14:29.00 | rob_w | i will revocer my first earlyharetboot.txt now |
| 14:29.23 | rob_w | and hacking the new mach into my kernel tree |
| 14:32.17 | knobo` | cr2: I want to try to se if it is possible for us in our company to use HTC phones instead of iPhone. I will receive a hermes from a guy who has one soon. How useable is it now, and how usable will it get in near future? |
| 14:33.40 | knobo` | cr2: My plan is to get the company to help with the development somehow, either by sponsoring some developers or do some development our self |
| 14:34.18 | rob_w | a dedicated 2 man crew is quite good to hack those gadgets |
| 14:34.19 | knobo` | cr2: maybe it is better to go for another phone, but the hermes is all I got so far. |
| 14:35.35 | knobo` | A linux phone has been forcasted since year 2000, but none exsists so far |
| 14:36.08 | knobo` | This makes people doubt |
| 14:36.17 | knobo` | that there ever will be one |
| 14:36.57 | cr2 | knobo`: hermes is a nice phone, but it's not an easy one to support in linux. |
| 14:37.28 | knobo` | cr2: who is it worse then others? |
| 14:38.07 | cr2 | knobo`: the problem is that there are relatively good supported "obsolete" phones, and the latest msm* based with half-hearted android. |
| 14:39.03 | rob_w | yeah, choose the htc nike or so ;-) |
| 14:39.14 | knobo` | One of our programers agued that iPhone is a more open platform than HTC. Do you agree? |
| 14:39.20 | cr2 | knobo`: many hermes functions are done by the ATI w2282 chip. SD, sound, accel video. but there are no docs for this chip, and since it's also obsolete now (afaik) AMD will not give us the docs. |
| 14:39.22 | rob_w | oh |
| 14:39.34 | cr2 | knobo`: is he joking ? |
| 14:39.40 | rob_w | man |
| 14:40.02 | knobo` | cr2: no joke. He says the os is based on freebsd |
| 14:40.07 | rob_w | let him define "open", then you hear .. what he meant where sold units or such |
| 14:40.14 | knobo` | and you can use gcc to program it |
| 14:40.29 | cr2 | rob_w: the msm* phones are more or less identical. unless you take the diamond (7201A) or such. |
| 14:40.47 | cr2 | knobo`: you can use g++ on wince too. |
| 14:41.21 | knobo` | g++ with qt or gtk? |
| 14:41.25 | cr2 | knobo`: that's how we boot linux. haret.exe is a GPL wince program, compiled with arm-wince-g++ |
| 14:41.39 | cr2 | native wince api |
| 14:41.57 | cr2 | we crosscompile for the native wince gui- |
| 14:42.03 | rob_w | damn . i dont get any hartlog |
| 14:42.04 | knobo` | that's good. |
| 14:42.10 | rob_w | oh there it is |
| 14:42.51 | cr2 | knobo`: if you have some non-mfc (and maybe non-atl too) win32 expertise, then it's the same as "true" wince. |
| 14:43.25 | knobo` | I don't know what mfc and atl is |
| 14:44.39 | knobo` | cr2: would it be possible to use wince dll's to control the hardware? |
| 14:44.48 | rob_w | here is my haret.log .. http://rafb.net/p/8E5LN470.html |
| 14:45.15 | rob_w | it says something about ..Video buffer at 51D00000 sx=240 sy=320 mx=60 my=53 |
| 14:45.16 | rob_w | Video Phys FB=10000000 Fonts=1567d064 |
| 14:45.16 | rob_w | Framebuffer overlaps with kernel destination |
| 14:45.30 | cr2 | knobo`: yes. and you can access the hw directly anyway. |
| 14:45.45 | cr2 | rob_w: it's the same as on kaiser. |
| 14:46.35 | knobo` | so, if you are working on it, that means that you think you'll be able to hack it? What is your plan? |
| 14:47.20 | cr2 | knobo`: i'll have a vacation first. |
| 14:48.00 | cr2 | knobo`: the same ati chipset is used on athena, so i'd certainly want to make it run. |
| 14:48.14 | rob_w | hehe .. knobo get cr2 on your payroll and maybe 1 one and your done soon .. you would need 1 guru and 1 that types and tests that |
| 14:49.40 | knobo` | cr2: if you want to change your job :) |
| 14:49.55 | knobo` | I'm not the boss.. |
| 14:50.18 | knobo` | But I like the idea |
| 14:52.44 | cr2 | knobo`: it was a nice joke. i'm actually not a professional programmer at all, you'd be shocked by my cv :) |
| 14:53.42 | cr2 | rob_w: btw, it seems i'll be moving to Munich in autumn. |
| 14:53.54 | rob_w | really ? |
| 14:54.01 | rob_w | what a joy |
| 14:54.02 | knobo` | what is your cv then? |
| 14:54.28 | rob_w | cr2: that means you can show me all your kunfu , i am 40minutes away from munich |
| 14:54.33 | cr2 | rob_w: yes. will be looking for a roof over my head soon. |
| 14:54.59 | cr2 | knobo`: i'm a rocket scientist :) |
| 14:55.16 | knobo` | haha, cool :) |
| 14:55.24 | cr2 | rob_w: but after the vacation. |
| 14:55.34 | rob_w | so moving for job or girl ? |
| 14:55.42 | marajin | knobo`: 'lo there |
| 14:55.44 | cr2 | rob_w: job. |
| 14:55.46 | marajin | hey guys |
| 14:55.59 | knobo` | hello |
| 14:56.17 | cr2 | rob_w: the girls are left behind. |
| 14:56.17 | marajin | knobo`: You do realise there's hundreds of linux phone, what you mean is _open_ linux phones |
| 14:56.37 | rob_w | hehe right marajin .. |
| 14:56.54 | marajin | knobo`: And you're still wrong because there's two open linux phones just from themoko people |
| 14:56.56 | rob_w | these days "linux" not necessarly includes "open" .. sadly |
| 14:57.10 | knobo` | marajin: not on the european market? |
| 14:57.18 | marajin | knobo`: Er yeah on the european market |
| 14:57.19 | cr2 | marajin: hehe. i prefer my a780. |
| 14:57.35 | marajin | cr2: True, just making the point that these devices _do_ exist :P |
| 14:57.47 | rob_w | so cr2 judging my haret log , what do you say ? sir ? |
| 14:58.21 | cr2 | rob_w: it's the kaiser config. |
| 14:58.41 | cr2 | rob_w: you need to check the gpios, and the cpld location. and the cpld gpios :) |
| 14:58.56 | cr2 | rob_w: kaiser wiki docs are very good. |
| 14:59.18 | rob_w | then thing is i never managed to log into haret via usb-terminal yet .. maybe those kaiser docs show a point .. |
| 14:59.49 | cr2 | rob_w: forget about usb on msm7200. |
| 15:00.03 | cr2 | rob_w: it does not work and will be a PITA to RE. |
| 15:00.19 | rob_w | so i am i supposed to use the haret console to dumb stuff à |
| 15:00.32 | cr2 | yes. use wifi |
| 15:02.05 | rob_w | no wifi , :-( |
| 15:02.32 | cr2 | rob_w: btw, where one can (inexpensively) live near Munich these days ? |
| 15:02.51 | cr2 | rob_w: hmm. no wifi is not good. |
| 15:03.07 | rob_w | near is definable .. |
| 15:03.23 | rob_w | all areas which connect to the S-Bahn are equally high |
| 15:03.36 | rob_w | bside the very center .. that is even more expensive |
| 15:03.52 | rob_w | do you know the location ? east , south, north, or west munich ? |
| 15:04.04 | cr2 | in the west, i don't need to be in Munich itself. |
| 15:04.40 | cr2 | Oberpfaffenhofen |
| 15:04.50 | rob_w | west inroduces also the possibility to train into munich .. west gets train in |
| 15:05.06 | rob_w | and you can hop itno the train and live further out .. |
| 15:05.20 | rob_w | how long would you want to take to your work office ? |
| 15:06.01 | cr2 | hmm. good question. |
| 15:07.21 | rob_w | thats a pretty and nice area .. and also well payed .. you are inbetween munich and Ammersee ! |
| 15:08.17 | cr2 | i guess it's not cheap to live there. |
| 15:08.54 | rob_w | back to my issue . .so lagging wifi i only had umts !! which i decline for now .. whats wrong with usb on msm7200 .. gether and rndis react on my host when plug it but it pings on no ip which i ever i set to ANY of the windows devices |
| 15:09.08 | rob_w | well its worth while .. it can be really nice |
| 15:09.22 | rob_w | i hope your rocket company pays you well ;-) |
| 15:09.50 | cr2 | rob_w: i always work for the state :) |
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| 15:10.39 | cr2 | rob_w: i think you need to patch the kernel for synce. or it was so last i've checked. |
| 15:11.13 | rob_w | what a pain |
| 15:11.33 | cr2 | yeah. |
| 15:16.51 | marajin | hmm which HTC is the o2 XDA Orbit? |
| 15:17.55 | marajin | artemis? |
| 15:20.07 | rob_w | bingo i ve contact !!! |
| 15:20.33 | rob_w | my host running 2.6.25.11 has fixed it |
| 15:20.34 | marajin | rob_w: Woo! |
| 15:21.04 | rob_w | cr2 can you give me the picture again what to dump for and what not and such ? |
| 15:42.23 | BabelO_ | marajin: yes it is artemis |
| 15:42.28 | BabelO_ | hi cr2 |
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| 15:46.48 | knobo` | Is there any open source repository for GPL software for HTC phones? |
| 15:58.30 | dcordes | rob_w: hey there, I didn't get the LED part above. does the backlight turn on when you press keys? a quick thought: You could try turning off the hetc-egpio driver in the kernel, and: I'm quite sure there was another person who once booted succesfully but that is many weeks ago. is your niki connected to your host via usb? |
| 15:58.58 | dcordes | knobo`: git.linuxtogo.org kernel.git hosts many |
| 15:59.05 | dcordes | all? |
| 15:59.25 | dcordes | knobo`: I'd go for your job openning without hesitation but I can't code :D |
| 15:59.25 | rob_w | yes i can connect via usb .. even get access now to haret command via that .. |
| 15:59.38 | rob_w | it booted once now .. but 10 times not .. |
| 15:59.59 | dcordes | you mean, the frame buffer got through? |
| 16:00.13 | dcordes | and you've seeen it boot up that one time? |
| 16:01.25 | rob_w | yep but it was a bit misalinged .. could read all of it but surely a booted kernel |
| 16:01.58 | rob_w | i even tought i see a cursor blinking as it also created bars which grew from top to bottom .. |
| 16:02.58 | rob_w | i tryed again with 70mb free and disabled radio .. no fb came up .. wonder what i did different the previuous time |
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| 16:03.16 | chab7 | hi |
| 16:03.23 | marajin | rob_w: It may be dependant on something you don't directly control. |
| 16:04.07 | BabelO_ | marajin: you have one ? |
| 16:04.20 | marajin | BabelO_: No, believe it or not my doctor does |
| 16:04.32 | marajin | BabelO_: I was chatting to him about my kaiser |
| 16:04.32 | rob_w | i read the in xda forum that the kaiser also had this issue .. is it solved ? |
| 16:04.42 | marajin | rob_w: There's no FB problems on the kaiser |
| 16:05.00 | BabelO_ | marajin: ok :) he can try my images just look at xda-dev post |
| 16:05.18 | marajin | I don't know if he's technical enough to turn his artemis linux |
| 16:05.38 | rob_w | hehe |
| 16:05.43 | rob_w | now its up again ! |
| 16:05.46 | BabelO_ | marajin: it is auto installer :), so just need to copy two file on top of sd, start the .exe and wait :) |
| 16:05.58 | marajin | BabelO_: What "works" on the artemis? |
| 16:06.25 | BabelO_ | marajin: http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/Artemis , see screenshot part :) |
| 16:06.41 | dcordes | rob_w: you are facing the unreliable booting of the linux kernel with haret on msm7200 htc devices of death. |
| 16:06.46 | BabelO_ | marajin: i m still working on suspend / resume stuff and battery part |
| 16:07.24 | marajin | BabelO_: No GSM/GPRS? |
| 16:07.35 | rob_w | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:07.50 | dcordes | rob_w: which can be solved by pickign a different rom. that was what I expect. Somebody else tried kaiser stuff on niki like a week ago and he couldn't boot out of mysterious reasons either. |
| 16:07.54 | rob_w | yet the dimsion doenst fitt |
| 16:08.02 | dcordes | than the other person longer ago was able to. so here's the problem your rom |
| 16:08.08 | BabelO_ | marajin: no, but there is code for other omap phone somewhere, last time i check it, it was worng for me, i think it need some work |
| 16:08.27 | rob_w | show a different rom and i happy to update |
| 16:08.36 | dcordes | rob_w: believe me, there's nothing wron in the kernel. it is just the windows mobile rom that causes random hangs on 100% |
| 16:08.39 | marajin | BabelO_: well I'll mention it to the guy but I dunno if he'd want. Don't think a doctor can afford to have a phone that doesn't work reliably ya know ? :P |
| 16:09.04 | dcordes | rob_w: see the kaiser and polaris linux threads in xda. there you've got the same situation. in most stock roms it doesn't work. |
| 16:09.37 | dcordes | rob_w: I think you're rather a pioneer so there is no thread like the above for niki and you will have to try |
| 16:09.57 | dcordes | rob_w: talk to AstainHellbring, he is one of the windows mobile rom cookers |
| 16:10.12 | dcordes | xmoo also knows rom cooking |
| 16:10.50 | dcordes | some people say it works better on roms that report an msm7500 chipset to haret |
| 16:11.42 | dcordes | knobo: the new and shiny devices are hosted in the htc-msm branch of kernel.git |
| 16:15.30 | dcordes | bbl |
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| 16:43.46 | rob_w | k i am downloading all that stuff to flash to the latest rom called Tom_Niki_Project_v2.1.3_GER.rar |
| 16:50.14 | rob_w | are u guys also using cooked roms to better boot via haret ? |
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| 17:09.38 | rob_w | ping AstainHellbring |
| 17:10.32 | AstainHellbring | yes? |
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| 17:12.25 | marajin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:12.35 | ginge | marajin: lo |
| 17:13.14 | rob_w | ur are rom cooker for htc stuff ? |
| 17:13.44 | rob_w | can you enlight me about the sspl and hardspl stuff for htc nike ? |
| 17:14.04 | AstainHellbring | hardspl makes it so that you can flash non htcsigned roms onto your device |
| 17:14.23 | rob_w | i clicked spl.exe .. got the usb .. replugged it ( though i am not on windows ) .. then did a softreboot .. so iami prepared to update the rom now ? |
| 17:15.21 | rob_w | if that spl did not work correct, will i brick my device by running the rom upgrade or will it just not work ? how do i check if that spl.exe went good ? |
| 17:15.42 | AstainHellbring | no... you may have some interesting time flashing the hardspl from linux but could be done do not reset the device after you get into bootloader from the spl app |
| 17:16.09 | AstainHellbring | if the spl went good you will have a different bootloader version than normal that will allow you to flash the special spl that is included in the hardspl |
| 17:16.35 | rob_w | damn so i should have checked the version prior to that |
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| 17:17.16 | rob_w | what do you mean by "not reset after get into bootloader " .. i dont see in the instruction that i wil lreach bootloader modes ? |
| 17:17.46 | AstainHellbring | what is shown on the screen after you run the spl app? |
| 17:18.03 | rob_w | ugly colours and "CPLD somthing" and then "USB" |
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| 17:18.27 | AstainHellbring | that is bootloader |
| 17:19.02 | rob_w | ah so ROMUpdateUtility.exe i need to run on my windows host ! |
| 17:19.16 | rob_w | while in this bootloader ! after replugging usb |
| 17:19.19 | AstainHellbring | actually not really |
| 17:19.27 | rob_w | oh |
| 17:19.28 | AstainHellbring | yes keep device in bootloader but there is a linux flasher |
| 17:20.45 | rob_w | oh dont see that flaser ? .. iam grepping my files from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355730 |
| 17:20.48 | AstainHellbring | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762 |
| 17:21.26 | rob_w | wow! |
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| 17:26.06 | rob_w | so AstainHellbring i can you this linux HTCFlaserGui to put a new rom right away ? |
| 17:26.33 | AstainHellbring | uhm huh no you will need to flash that hardspl first |
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| 18:03.30 | rob_w | iam back with the Niki Pro rom on my htcnike |
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| 18:15.06 | marbalon | dcordes: ping |
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| 18:30.44 | tmzt_mp900c | cr2: I am downloading a cross compiler to compile an eabi kernel for arm, is there a specific release of codesourcery or a better compiler to get? |
| 18:31.44 | amiral_ | an obsolete one but working : http://linux.omap.com/pub/toolchain/ |
| 18:32.03 | tmzt_mp900c | for pxa255? |
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| 18:35.20 | amiral_ | tmzt_mp900c : you can use it yes |
| 18:35.58 | tmzt_mp900c | thanks, I found the spring2008 tar for code sourcery, so I'll just try this first, if it doesn't work, probably angstrom |
| 18:37.57 | amiral_ | ok ;) |
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| 20:07.21 | dcordes | marbalon: pong |
| 20:09.51 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: ping |
| 20:11.27 | tmzt_mp900c | hey |
| 20:12.22 | dcordes | got a working toolchain? |
| 20:12.40 | tmzt_mp900c | how do I erase everything in git and pull a different branch without fetching objects? |
| 20:12.57 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, I think so, but I haven't got to compile anything yet |
| 20:13.48 | dcordes | what do you mean, erase everything? |
| 20:14.12 | tmzt_mp900c | in my local directory, I pulled the upstream kernel instead of the jlime one from the same .git |
| 20:14.51 | dcordes | git checkout -b <branch> origin/<branch> ? |
| 20:14.56 | tmzt_mp900c | thats it |
| 20:15.07 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:15.23 | tmzt_mp900c | now if I could just clear scroll lock on this vt, I locked it with screen |
| 20:15.41 | tmzt_mp900c | I guess I'll map something |
| 20:16.13 | dcordes | quite amazing what you do on that device |
| 20:16.24 | marbalon | dcordes: hi, I build my own angstrom fs ;) |
| 20:16.31 | dcordes | all kinds of stuff on that tiny thing |
| 20:16.44 | marbalon | dcordes: and run form SD card |
| 20:16.46 | dcordes | marbalon: ah did it work? |
| 20:16.52 | dcordes | are you in org.oe.dev? |
| 20:17.22 | marbalon | dcordes: as logged user ? |
| 20:17.37 | dcordes | no I mean, which openembedded branch are you in? the .stable or .dev? |
| 20:17.44 | marbalon | dev |
| 20:17.47 | dcordes | ok |
| 20:17.56 | marbalon | but amazing mplayer working, I played short movie ;) |
| 20:18.01 | dcordes | and built with angstrom-2008.1 distro as in my local.conf? |
| 20:18.06 | dcordes | marbalon: :O |
| 20:18.13 | dcordes | I didn't get it working. you run on fbdev? |
| 20:18.23 | marbalon | yes |
| 20:18.32 | marbalon | without any option |
| 20:18.41 | dcordes | mplayer <movie>? |
| 20:18.42 | marbalon | mplayer file.avi |
| 20:18.48 | marbalon | yes |
| 20:19.01 | dcordes | I tried playing a divc movie from my SD card and got those nasty mmc DMA errors |
| 20:19.10 | dcordes | is your card sdhc? |
| 20:19.14 | marbalon | yes |
| 20:19.21 | dcordes | maybe that's it.. |
| 20:19.22 | marbalon | but file is about 5MB |
| 20:19.24 | tmzt_mp900c | setleds can clear the flag, but it's still locked |
| 20:19.41 | dcordes | marbalon: I tried playing 300M, 40M, 4M |
| 20:19.52 | dcordes | all gave MMC DMA Errors |
| 20:20.11 | marbalon | if I run it from ramfs it run realy fluently |
| 20:20.35 | dcordes | could you email me that movie for referrence test? |
| 20:20.48 | dcordes | I'll try to reconstruct on my build |
| 20:21.01 | dcordes | need some food brb |
| 20:21.16 | marbalon | need a shower brb ;) |
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| 20:28.33 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: are you there? |
| 20:41.23 | dcordes | nighthawk08: half |
| 20:44.42 | dcordes | somebody's got a himalya rootfs with working touchscreen for nighthawk08? |
| 20:48.31 | tmzt_mp900c | git checkout missed half my files, |
| 20:48.42 | tmzt_mp900c | half the files |
| 20:49.20 | dcordes | maybe some index stuff in your lcal tree is broken? |
| 20:49.34 | dcordes | just a thought because you mentioned you removed stuff |
| 20:49.56 | tmzt_mp900c | yes, I should really learn git, svn would have put it all back |
| 20:50.05 | tmzt_mp900c | can I delete the INDEX in .git? |
| 20:50.11 | tmzt_mp900c | should I just refetch? |
| 20:53.01 | dcordes | refetch is what I would do, honestly I don't really know either |
| 20:54.24 | dcordes | s/know/know git/ |
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| 20:56.53 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: have you got time to fix the rest of the issues in my htc-himalaya? |
| 20:57.16 | dcordes | nighthawk08: I will look at it later ok? |
| 20:57.31 | nighthawk08 | ok,. I'll be back in a couple of hours,. |
| 20:57.40 | dcordes | I'm quite sure your touchscreen driver works, but not userland |
| 20:58.20 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: he was using the kernel for some ipaq, that's why he wasn't able to boot. |
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| 21:07.25 | marbalon | dcordes: I put this file tomorrow problem with mail |
| 21:08.31 | marbalon | dcordes: I build x11-image and put it on sd card but no succes with booting, reset because of DMa errors |
| 21:08.51 | marbalon | dcordes: there is any way boot this ? |
| 21:09.13 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes is booting kaiser from sd |
| 21:14.41 | dcordes | marbalon: oh. I thought you are playing movies from the sd |
| 21:14.55 | dcordes | 22:16 < marbalon> dcordes: and run form SD card |
| 21:15.20 | marbalon | yes from sd card |
| 21:15.27 | dcordes | ah I understand |
| 21:15.39 | dcordes | you have kernel initrd on card and boot from there? |
| 21:15.49 | marbalon | but works fluently from ramfs |
| 21:16.13 | marbalon | no everything on sdcard |
| 21:16.26 | marbalon | but smaler fs console-image build |
| 21:18.40 | dcordes | marbalon: so you have some ext partition where you extracted the root filesystem? |
| 21:19.32 | marbalon | yes |
| 21:20.34 | dcordes | playing movie works when you write the movie to ramfs and play it from there, but not when it is on the card? |
| 21:21.48 | marbalon | playing from sd and ramfs but from ramfs more fluently |
| 21:22.18 | marbalon | it is late here, night |
| 21:24.47 | tmzt_mp900c | got a zImage! |
| 21:31.35 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: for what device? |
| 21:31.58 | dcordes | ~ |
| 21:32.12 | dcordes | now I understand marbalon only had dma problem booting the x11 |
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| 22:04.37 | dcordes | ginge: hi, the patch fails in some places against the latest android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 22:05.01 | ginge | dcordes: hi. where? |
| 22:07.33 | dcordes | ./arch/arm/mach-msm/Kconfig.rej |
| 22:07.33 | dcordes | ./arch/arm/mach-msm/Makefile.rej |
| 22:07.33 | dcordes | ./drivers/mfd/Makefile.rej |
| 22:07.33 | dcordes | ./drivers/mmc/host/msm_sdcc.c.rej |
| 22:07.33 | dcordes | ./drivers/video/msm/msm_fb.c.rej |
| 22:07.36 | dcordes | ./include/asm-arm/arch-msm/board.h.rej |
| 22:07.55 | ginge | have you tried to resolve the rejects manually? |
| 22:08.38 | dcordes | yes |
| 22:08.44 | dcordes | the thrid is easy e.g. |
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| 22:14.53 | dcordes | ginge: others are tricky to me. the if amss version blbal in the arch-msm Kconfig is completely remvoed, right? |
| 22:15.27 | ginge | dcordes: not too sure. will have to check later |
| 22:17.50 | dcordes | ginge: did you mess with adsp? |
| 22:18.07 | marajin | ginge: How's moving going? I thought I heard the screams from here earlier today ;) |
| 22:18.13 | ginge | no |
| 22:18.28 | ginge | marajin: maybe the popping as my arms came from the sockets |
| 22:18.40 | marajin | ginge: Hah |
| 22:18.50 | marajin | ginge: do you good, get some muscles on you lad! |
| 22:20.47 | dcordes | ginge: the sdcc. rejects are nasty |
| 22:21.09 | ginge | dcordes: does any of it match? |
| 22:21.29 | dcordes | looks like nothing applied |
| 22:21.57 | dcordes | my understanding of that code is too bad in order to apply it manually |
| 22:22.26 | dcordes | same applise to msm_fb |
| 22:22.33 | ginge | how do I update my local branch (which has changes) to the newer google in git? |
| 22:22.58 | dcordes | hmm I think that's called rebase |
| 22:23.20 | ginge | re-re-re-re-base checkit |
| 22:24.26 | dcordes | git rebase origin/<branch> ? |
| 22:26.26 | dcordes | it coems down to sdcc and fb. I think I have the others fixed |
| 22:42.35 | cr2 | unsigned long sectiontypes[32] |
| 22:43.01 | cr2 | i'm always wondering why people use 'long'. |
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| 23:21.22 | marajin | cr2: They use long because memory is infinite!... Whatcha mean "no it's not?!"... |
| 23:36.22 | dcordes | marajin: have you tried copying larger files to /media/ram while in angstrom sd? |
| 23:41.25 | marajin | dcordes: No, why would I? |
| 23:43.53 | dcordes | donno |
| 23:43.58 | dcordes | can you? |
| 23:44.17 | dcordes | it seems to work for marbalon but not for me |
| 23:44.17 | marajin | Um not really no. |
| 23:44.27 | marajin | Well maybe, I have to repartition my SDHC card |
| 23:44.30 | dcordes | he can even play moviesa from sd |
| 23:44.40 | marajin | erm? |
| 23:44.51 | marajin | how's he playing movies when we don't even have X working? |
| 23:44.56 | marajin | well |
| 23:45.00 | marajin | No it's possible I guess |
| 23:45.00 | dcordes | fbdev |
| 23:45.05 | marajin | but more.. why? :P |
| 23:45.11 | dcordes | mplayer uses it automagically. see scrollback |
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| 23:45.34 | nighthawk08 | dcordes: are you there? |
| 23:45.35 | dcordes | I also wonder why he can't boot the X11 image but angstrom works fine |
| 23:45.37 | dcordes | yes |
| 23:45.54 | dcordes | have you googled a bit to find a rootfs for hima? |
| 23:45.55 | nighthawk08 | can you help me? |
| 23:45.58 | dcordes | sure |
| 23:46.38 | nighthawk08 | Well,. I stoppen while trying the image you prepared... |
| 23:46.42 | nighthawk08 | stopped* |
| 23:47.45 | nighthawk08 | I currently have two problem with it: 1. The touch screen doesn't work 2. There is a white vertical strip on the screen all the time |
| 23:48.24 | dcordes | nighthawk08: is the strip also visible directly after you're booting (in console) |
| 23:48.42 | nighthawk08 | yr |
| 23:48.44 | nighthawk08 | ye |
| 23:49.28 | dcordes | ok so that is most likely something broken in the kernel with the framebuffer. |
| 23:50.08 | nighthawk08 | can you fix that? |
| 23:51.02 | dcordes | will look at it |
| 23:51.40 | dcordes | maybe I should try building from git.linuxtogo.org rather than handhelds.org cvs |
| 23:52.00 | dcordes | nighthawk08: did you retry or only seen the strip once? |
| 23:52.44 | nighthawk08 | I saw it only once,. shall I retry to boot? |
| 23:53.20 | nighthawk08 | twice to say for exact |
| 23:53.22 | dcordes | yes please |
| 23:53.28 | nighthawk08 | ok,. checking |
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| 23:54.07 | nighthawk08 | ye,. it is still there... |
| 23:56.43 | dcordes | nighthawk08: I will simply try and build from a different tree. |
| 23:56.52 | nighthawk08 | ok |