| 00:02.35 | *** join/#htc-linux smev (i=smev@205.205.173.111) |
| 00:41.25 | *** join/#htc-linux surgex (i=surge@pool-71-186-163-107.bflony.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:02.24 | *** part/#htc-linux wasup (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 02:02.07 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello_ (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-aef3bc6602b3ca03) |
| 02:22.22 | *** join/#htc-linux smev (n=smev@S0106001c10bc184b.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 02:23.47 | *** join/#htc-linux Zoolooc (n=fredsiba@nrbg-4dbf819c.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 02:28.28 | *** join/#htc-linux nighthawk08 (n=a@nighthaw.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 02:28.54 | nighthawk08 | dcordes_: tmzt told me you might help me... |
| 03:20.37 | *** join/#htc-linux OpnSrc1 (i=harisha1@gateway/tor/x-5e020f38fbda0a87) |
| 03:43.42 | *** join/#htc-linux LunohoD_ (n=alex@e180065077.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 03:59.43 | joshts0 | ginge: how sit goign with the keyboard? |
| 04:31.55 | *** join/#htc-linux the_sys0p` (n=the_sys0@cpe-76-88-212-37.bak.res.rr.com) |
| 04:41.40 | *** join/#htc-linux skodde (n=skodde@unaffiliated/skodde) |
| 04:43.15 | ptl | hiya |
| 05:11.56 | ptl | yes! |
| 05:18.51 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello_ (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-1c411448bb1d277c) |
| 05:38.16 | *** join/#htc-linux Othello_ (i=Magorium@gateway/tor/x-5ace8691f110a937) |
| 06:22.55 | *** join/#htc-linux pigeon (n=pigeon@60-241-137-179.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:33.01 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (n=oeichler@p54929C54.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:42.09 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 06:58.22 | *** join/#htc-linux marmotta (n=skodde@unaffiliated/skodde) |
| 06:59.29 | *** join/#htc-linux zoolooc (n=lucian@nrbg-4dbf819c.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 07:01.37 | dcordes_ | tmzt: ping |
| 07:02.21 | zoolooc | good morning |
| 07:02.30 | dcordes_ | morning zoolooc |
| 07:02.56 | zoolooc | how is the kaiser linux kernel work going? |
| 07:03.24 | dcordes_ | I think nothing new you don't already heard about |
| 07:11.02 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 07:14.15 | Red_Devil | is there a chance (if the development goes well) that actually there will be a native linux rom? |
| 07:19.01 | zoolooc | if things are working (like X, like some usable basic phone / pim apps), I guess it's just a matter of someone preparing such an image. |
| 07:19.17 | zoolooc | Red_Devil: do you mean to flash such an image to ROM? |
| 07:20.18 | Red_Devil | yes zoolooc |
| 07:20.46 | Red_Devil | so i can say goodbye to windows |
| 07:21.08 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (n=bob@M9cb6.m.pppool.de) |
| 07:22.20 | zoolooc | would be nice |
| 07:22.36 | zoolooc | I don't know if it's trivial to boot it |
| 07:23.41 | *** join/#htc-linux zoolooc (n=lucian@nrbg-4dbf819c.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 07:25.28 | dcordes_ | Red_Devil: so what's the initrd you suggest best? :) |
| 07:26.03 | dcordes_ | no2chem2: has a very good insight of how the bootlaoder works on the msm phones |
| 07:26.07 | Red_Devil | dcordes they are both working with calling inbound AND outbound |
| 07:26.13 | dcordes_ | he's the guy to ask |
| 07:26.16 | Red_Devil | but they are also both freezing |
| 07:26.50 | Red_Devil | and the only difference (for now) i can find is that the touchscreen works better in android.bin |
| 07:27.02 | Red_Devil | more responsive |
| 07:27.07 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 07:27.12 | Red_Devil | so i think this one is best |
| 07:28.12 | Red_Devil | is it possible to get a shell on that rom ? |
| 07:28.18 | Red_Devil | i looked into the developer tools |
| 07:28.37 | Red_Devil | but could not find a shell |
| 07:28.49 | Red_Devil | mhz !lag-- |
| 07:30.33 | dcordes_ | Red_Devil: I think it listens for incoming telnet connections |
| 07:30.47 | dcordes_ | so if you had network you could get one |
| 07:31.06 | Red_Devil | ah ok |
| 07:31.06 | dcordes_ | also you can modify the rootfs to boot into one iirc |
| 07:31.14 | Red_Devil | gonna try that |
| 07:31.24 | Red_Devil | i'm at work now |
| 07:31.30 | Red_Devil | tonight i'm gonna try that |
| 07:31.41 | Red_Devil | is it possible to get wifi up and running already ? |
| 07:32.01 | dcordes_ | one could install ppp and run the ppp setup script from ginge to get online in android |
| 07:32.06 | dcordes_ | on bootup |
| 07:32.35 | dcordes_ | no wifi yet |
| 07:32.42 | Red_Devil | ok |
| 07:33.14 | Red_Devil | that would be a problem then ;) |
| 07:33.37 | Red_Devil | i think the gprs internet is behind nat |
| 07:33.39 | dcordes_ | no wifi? |
| 07:33.52 | dcordes_ | ah no problem you can reverse it |
| 07:33.55 | Red_Devil | is the wifi already supported in the kernel ? |
| 07:33.57 | dcordes_ | that works fine here |
| 07:34.06 | dcordes_ | no |
| 07:34.11 | Red_Devil | ah ok |
| 07:34.40 | dcordes_ | you can fsck around with the gprs very well from within angstrom |
| 07:34.45 | Red_Devil | i'm gonna play around with it the tonight |
| 07:35.39 | Red_Devil | to make the connection would be pretty simple i think |
| 07:57.30 | dcordes_ | yes it works well |
| 07:57.46 | dcordes_ | I have an image with a script for setting up connection and doing the reverse ssh |
| 08:13.13 | *** join/#htc-linux chab7 (n=kvirc@212.92.4.114) |
| 08:13.24 | chab7 | hello everyone |
| 08:32.30 | *** join/#htc-linux knobo1 (n=user@ti0153a380-0229.bb.online.no) |
| 08:32.47 | knobo1 | hello |
| 08:34.52 | knobo1 | I have got the model of one of the phones I can get to install linux on now. It is HTC P3600. But there is one more phone also. I don't know which model it is yet, but he said it is similar, but it has got a keyboard. |
| 08:40.31 | marajin | knobo1: yo |
| 08:41.27 | knobo1 | marajin: yo! |
| 08:41.51 | knobo1 | Looks like HTC P3600 can be used with Linux |
| 08:42.01 | marajin | knobo1: That's the trinity isn't it? |
| 08:42.31 | knobo1 | marajin: looks like that is a different name for it, yes. |
| 08:42.59 | dcordes_ | knobo1: you can look up the htc names at wiki.linuxtogo.org |
| 08:43.12 | dcordes_ | wiki.xda-developers.com , sorry |
| 08:43.30 | marajin | knobo1: All HTC devices have a codename, we tend to try to use the codename because there's massive rebranding |
| 08:43.58 | marajin | knobo1: Like the HTC Kaiser can be known as anything from the AT&T Tilt to the O2 XDA Stellar to the MDA Vario IV |
| 08:45.05 | knobo1 | GPS-enabled HTC Trinity (P3600) bass problems fixed by the XDA-Dev folks!! |
| 08:45.15 | knobo1 | Does that mean that the GPS also woks? |
| 08:45.24 | knobo1 | s/woks/works |
| 08:45.32 | marajin | under linux I have no idea. |
| 08:45.44 | knobo1 | we'll find out.. |
| 08:45.55 | knobo1 | must have drivers for it anyway |
| 08:45.56 | marajin | ya know Isuspect the other phone they have is the hermes |
| 08:46.10 | knobo1 | does it also wokrs? |
| 08:46.21 | knobo1 | s/wokrs/work/ |
| 08:46.30 | marajin | it boots but it's pretty poorly supported because some of the hardware in it we don't really understand |
| 08:46.58 | knobo1 | ok. I have to go. But I'll pick up the trinity |
| 08:48.37 | knobo1 | I would need a windows-pc to do the installation? |
| 08:48.51 | marajin | knobo1: Oh dear, it looks like the trinity is just a hermes with no KB so it's not going to be particularly impressive for demo sake |
| 08:49.08 | marajin | knobo1: And not really as long as you can get files onto the device's internal flash memory |
| 08:49.22 | marajin | cr2: Ping? |
| 08:50.55 | marajin | knobo1: Well the guy to talk to about hermes/trinity current is cr2. I have a hermes but I appear to have half broken it somehow. YOu'd prolly be better getting the hermes if that's what the other phone available is though. But neither is ideal |
| 08:52.11 | knobo1 | hmm... |
| 08:53.24 | *** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes) |
| 08:54.05 | marajin | wb dcordes_ |
| 08:54.05 | knobo1 | Ok. I'll go for the other one. |
| 08:54.26 | marajin | knobo1: Maybe you'll get lucky and it'll be something else but I'm betting it's a hermes. |
| 08:54.56 | ptl | learning spreadsheetism |
| 08:55.10 | marajin | ptl: ? O.o |
| 08:56.21 | ptl | marajin: learning spreadsheet macros so that I can organize and optimize operations within my company |
| 08:56.32 | ptl | well |
| 08:56.39 | ptl | not really. |
| 08:56.43 | marajin | ptl: No that's so you can PRETEND to organize and optimize ;) |
| 08:57.10 | ptl | the thing is that I have been promoted to a role that is not very technical. So I have to use spreadsheets. That sucks. |
| 08:57.31 | ptl | yes, I will probably become addicted to this sort of ugly workaround. |
| 08:57.33 | marajin | ptl: I'll fetch you the suicide pills... |
| 08:57.43 | knobo1 | I realy have to go now. I'll be back later today. |
| 08:58.15 | ptl | :[ |
| 08:59.21 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO_ (n=fcr@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 09:04.11 | dcordes | BabelO_: hi there. can you point me to the defconfig you used to build artemis kernel? |
| 09:04.35 | dcordes | so I can compare with kaisr def |
| 09:05.31 | BabelO_ | dcordes: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=tree;f=arch/arm/configs;h=0fd5418e2cda5368b9a5e91f0b799f7f056d7874;hb=htc-omap |
| 09:17.39 | dcordes | BabelO_: IOSCHED_DEADLINE IOSCHED_CFQ important? |
| 09:20.22 | BabelO_ | dcordes: standard |
| 09:20.31 | dcordes | DEVKMEM is also not set on kaiser |
| 09:22.25 | BabelO_ | dcordes: all this parameters are standard set from pskolovsky tools |
| 09:23.11 | dcordes | should I use psokolovsky tools? |
| 09:23.29 | BabelO_ | dcordes: no |
| 09:24.25 | chab7 | has anybody polaris with android? |
| 09:25.10 | dcordes | chab7: premy |
| 09:25.25 | dcordes | chab7: but I might also be able to help, what's your problem? |
| 09:26.01 | chab7 | nothing yet, because i am totally new in this :) i just read the xda topic and found the way to here the chat |
| 09:26.22 | dcordes | chab7: did you fetch the polaris bootkit? |
| 09:26.27 | chab7 | and i would like to change my polaris rom to android from wm |
| 09:26.39 | marajin | chab7: Trust me, you don't :P |
| 09:26.50 | chab7 | so now i am collecting any infos about it |
| 09:27.10 | dcordes | chab7: that's not possible yet. for now you need to boot windows, and then boot linux from there, using haret.exe. |
| 09:27.41 | chab7 | i know it is just a starting and will be better later :) |
| 09:28.12 | chab7 | and firstly its good to boot both rom |
| 09:28.31 | dcordes | exactly |
| 09:28.42 | chab7 | because i have my polaris (and very first pda) just right a couple of weeks ago |
| 09:29.03 | dcordes | yea no problem. you cannot brick it this way. you should try out premy's zip file from |
| 09:29.23 | chab7 | so i already know win-mobile rom and i would like to try the android too |
| 09:29.24 | dcordes | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/android_polaris_20080718.zip |
| 09:30.10 | chab7 | i am a linux fan :) i use linux on desktop, laptop, set-top-box and i will use it on my phone too :) |
| 09:30.10 | dcordes | it's not a rom exactly. people rather refer to rom with things you 'flash' to the internal memory |
| 09:30.38 | dcordes | me too. just I have no set top box. just curious, what set-top-box do you have? |
| 09:31.53 | chab7 | ok, so the first question: if i put android (with haret) onto my polaris, and i reboot, windows rom will be just the same as before? or do i lost any of my datas, settings? |
| 09:31.59 | chab7 | i have a dreambox 500 |
| 09:32.12 | dcordes | chab7: everything will be just like before. |
| 09:32.50 | *** join/#htc-linux exco (n=exco@e181071049.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:32.53 | chab7 | ok, its good :) so i can try it without any damage :) |
| 09:35.21 | dcordes | right |
| 09:38.12 | chab7 | is there a site where are the installation instructions of android collected? |
| 09:38.26 | chab7 | is it linuxtogo.org? |
| 09:50.17 | chab7 | must i put it onto device? how much space do i need? |
| 09:51.51 | dcordes | chab7: look in the polaris forum, premy's post |
| 09:52.03 | dcordes | just get the zip file (link above) |
| 09:56.33 | chab7 | ok, i read that from the beginning and i downloaded the file ;) i hope it will work |
| 09:59.00 | dcordes | of course it works |
| 09:59.25 | dcordes | premy tested it before he packed it |
| 10:08.07 | BabelO_ | dcordes: so ? diif of config files ? |
| 10:23.03 | *** join/#htc-linux amiral_ (n=amiral@gob75-2-81-56-65-10.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:29.46 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 10:43.33 | *** join/#htc-linux LanceHaig (n=LanceHai@foresight/member/lhaig) |
| 11:02.31 | dcordes | BabelO_: not too much difference. lots of network stuff kaiser doesn't have and some encryption |
| 11:05.49 | BabelO_ | dcordes: post your defconfig somewhere |
| 11:06.36 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen_ (n=oeichler@p54929590.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.24 | *** join/#htc-linux Marex (n=vasum7am@auryn.karlin.mff.cuni.cz) |
| 11:13.38 | dcordes | ok |
| 11:14.41 | dcordes | BabelO_: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=blob_plain;f=arch/arm/configs/htckaiser_defconfig;hb=refs/heads/htc-msm |
| 11:22.15 | dcordes | chab7: success? |
| 11:22.32 | chab7 | i am reading now :) |
| 11:22.46 | chab7 | but i have collected all the files i need (i hope) |
| 11:24.10 | chab7 | i cant find a "usermanual" for installation, or do i only need to put files onto the device and run the exe? |
| 11:28.00 | dcordes | hat jemand den eiPhone link parrat? |
| 11:28.12 | dcordes | := wrong window |
| 11:28.36 | marajin | heh :) |
| 11:32.37 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 11:37.49 | dcordes | got my 8gb micro |
| 12:03.23 | dcordes | chab7: sorry, I have overseen your question. Right, just get the zip file on your phone, extract it, run haret.exe |
| 12:09.20 | BabelO_ | dcordes: so you already set SYSIPC ? right ? |
| 12:10.16 | dcordes | yes |
| 12:10.41 | chab7 | ok, already on it, but stops in loading linux |
| 12:11.11 | BabelO_ | dcordes: you did not used cpld driver ? |
| 12:11.31 | dcordes | BabelO_: there is a spciela driver for msm and we use egpio |
| 12:11.37 | dcordes | special |
| 12:12.00 | dcordes | you helped me add egpio to the kaiser tree |
| 12:12.20 | BabelO_ | dcordes: egpio is cpld yes, but latest cpld driver need genreic_gpio api |
| 12:12.40 | dcordes | BabelO_: ah, that's why it only works with the old version |
| 12:13.05 | dcordes | BabelO_: I tried to repalce the current htc-epgio.c in htc-msm with 2.6.26 mainline |
| 12:13.20 | dcordes | s/mainline/mainline htc-egpio.c/ |
| 12:13.28 | chab7 | ok, now booted :) |
| 12:14.00 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@gtsgw.ttc.cz) |
| 12:14.02 | dcordes | chab7: when you make a call, or receive a call, make sure you hang in _on polaris_, not on the other side. |
| 12:14.06 | dcordes | or the dialer will be stuck. |
| 12:17.42 | BabelO_ | dcordes: ok, so only diff i see is tmpfs and sysipc + susipc_sysctl and some minor thing |
| 12:18.39 | *** join/#htc-linux rob_w (n=bob@Ma16a.m.pppool.de) |
| 12:18.46 | chab7 | ok, i try to manage it now |
| 12:18.55 | chab7 | a bit pure :) |
| 12:19.09 | chab7 | i know its a pre pre pre version :) |
| 12:19.14 | chab7 | but i like it |
| 12:23.45 | chab7 | can i set the clock? |
| 12:24.51 | dcordes | don't know. didn't see such an option in android |
| 12:25.28 | dcordes | you could add pppd and ntpdate to the image, setup internet connection before android is ran, and run ntpdate :) |
| 12:28.02 | chab7 | is there any way to reboot? or just soft reset? |
| 12:29.22 | dcordes | no, you need to soft reset. |
| 12:29.40 | dcordes | but that's no proble. since no data is written to nand and sd, no data can be destroyed. |
| 12:32.43 | chab7 | ok so this version is only for demonstrating, displaying android os, not to use it in weekdays |
| 12:33.12 | *** join/#htc-linux exco (n=Miranda@e181071049.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:35.29 | *** join/#htc-linux LunohoD_ (n=alex@e180072074.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 13:24.23 | *** join/#htc-linux tmzt_mp900c (n=tmzt@adsl-70-228-81-193.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 13:39.38 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: hey. I uploaded a tar of the kdrive workdir (untouched, with binaries). can you look at it? can't get the prints in tslib.c to work |
| 13:44.29 | tmzt_mp900c | uploaded where? |
| 13:44.44 | tmzt_mp900c | email? |
| 13:45.15 | tmzt_mp900c | reading logs on rikers, irclog is not working |
| 13:45.41 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: linuxtogo.org/~lgorris |
| 13:45.49 | tmzt_mp900c | oh, and I don't get notified since irssi is on another vt |
| 13:45.51 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
| 13:47.28 | tmzt_mp900c | can we work the irq stuff into tsc2003, or is that done? |
| 13:48.00 | tmzt_mp900c | and do we have keycodes for shift and fn now? |
| 13:48.19 | tmzt_mp900c | downloading |
| 13:49.08 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: the pendown irq? I think that's already in git since ginge's latest patches |
| 13:49.19 | tmzt_mp900c | in tsc2003 or the osk version? |
| 13:49.37 | dcordes | the osk version is only on my local tree |
| 13:49.45 | tmzt_mp900c | ok |
| 13:49.46 | dcordes | s/on/in/ |
| 13:49.51 | tmzt_mp900c | I'll look at it |
| 13:49.58 | dcordes | ~lart apt |
| 13:49.58 | apt | beats dcordes senseless with a 50lb Unix manual |
| 13:50.06 | dcordes | :'( |
| 13:50.29 | tmzt_mp900c | I wonder if I can build this natively? |
| 13:51.03 | dcordes | would be worth a try |
| 13:51.10 | dcordes | I don't know about dependencies |
| 13:51.27 | dcordes | regarding the patches, you can see in the temp folder inside the tarball what OE did |
| 13:52.08 | dcordes | brb |
| 13:55.10 | *** join/#htc-linux maverick2k (n=maverick@213-84-89-201.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 13:56.49 | *** join/#htc-linux AstainHellbring (n=Administ@unaffiliated/astainhellbring) |
| 14:16.31 | marajin | allo allo allo |
| 14:17.34 | BabelO_ | houston copy ! |
| 14:17.41 | BabelO_ | roger ! |
| 14:25.38 | joshts0 | ginge: ping |
| 14:30.07 | tmzt_mp900c | does that android kernel schedule dma's somehow, so that the data connection does not interfer with the fake vysnc dma? |
| 14:37.03 | tmzt_mp900c | does smd map depend on amss version or hardware, or do we not know? |
| 14:37.09 | *** join/#htc-linux lolek (n=MIXED@80.48.185.90) |
| 14:38.25 | tmzt_mp900c | (sorry, just questions I had while reading the logs, for ginge or premy or dzo) |
| 14:51.28 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: hard to tell. I would say both |
| 14:51.42 | dcordes | msm7200 and msm7500 smd mappings are different |
| 14:55.14 | *** join/#htc-linux tmzt_mp910c (n=tmzt@adsl-70-228-81-193.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 14:56.03 | dcordes | along the several msm7200 devices it mostly matches |
| 14:56.22 | dcordes | e.g. kaiser smd mapping matches polaris |
| 14:56.48 | dcordes | lolek: can I help? |
| 14:58.38 | marajin | joshts0: I'm pretty sure at this point you're not going to get ginge around much at all, but he has shown a tendancy to pop up in the evening/night |
| 15:00.35 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: hey, I'm looking at the file and will check ltg git in a minute |
| 15:03.47 | tmzt_mp900c | can you paste yours with the printfs, did you find it? |
| 15:03.47 | tmzt_mp900c | I can't really build this, though |
| 15:07.37 | *** join/#htc-linux punkgeek (n=jeanseb@88.164.32.155) |
| 15:16.15 | AstainHellbring | morningg all |
| 15:20.19 | marajin | 'lo AstainHellbring |
| 15:20.49 | AstainHellbring | we having fun today? |
| 15:21.12 | marajin | Nope |
| 15:21.25 | marajin | though I did manage to sell old computer bits that were on my carpet today heh |
| 15:22.25 | AstainHellbring | fun |
| 15:22.44 | marajin | heh |
| 15:22.46 | marajin | yep |
| 15:22.51 | marajin | necessary actually |
| 15:22.56 | marajin | damn government messing with my income |
| 15:30.02 | rob_w | so how is it going you sirs , heavy haret users ? |
| 15:31.20 | BabelO_ | ola rob_w |
| 15:31.35 | BabelO_ | rob_w: what is your phone actually |
| 15:31.42 | rob_w | good old BabelO ,, |
| 15:31.45 | rob_w | the ... hang on |
| 15:33.10 | rob_w | htc elf |
| 15:35.13 | rob_w | no its not elf |
| 15:37.53 | AstainHellbring | rob_w you have cdma touch or gsm touch? |
| 15:38.06 | rob_w | touch dual or htc nike |
| 15:38.14 | AstainHellbring | ahh that one |
| 15:38.16 | tmzt_mp900c | decordes: oe bit me again, there's in modprobe alias line in udev that ignores the module blacklist, so it was loading the orinoco driver in the background! hostap works again |
| 15:38.19 | rob_w | its the actual O2 xda star |
| 15:39.28 | rob_w | touch dual .. |
| 15:39.42 | rob_w | damn this oem makes it really hard to identify .. |
| 15:40.07 | rob_w | the pure vast amount of names is awefull |
| 15:41.30 | BabelO_ | rob_w: touch dual is msm |
| 15:41.52 | rob_w | so nike is already the branding of htc itself again ? |
| 15:42.59 | rob_w | its the msm 7200 @400Mhz 3G phone ;-) |
| 15:43.07 | AstainHellbring | nike is the internal code name |
| 15:43.18 | rob_w | thx AstainHellbring |
| 15:43.20 | BabelO_ | rob_w: so it is like kaiser and other, should be ok to get it working under linux :) |
| 15:43.45 | rob_w | i didnt follow it all lately .. can you point me to a good msm7200 kernel tree ? |
| 15:43.57 | rob_w | i never got past booting i think |
| 15:44.48 | BabelO_ | rob_w: http://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/htc-msm |
| 15:45.13 | rob_w | so is android brinning in developments to this arch ? |
| 15:45.14 | tmzt_mp900c | decordes: I don't see an irq in the git htc-msm tsc2003.c |
| 15:45.32 | tmzt_mp900c | dcordes: I don't see an irq in the git htc-msm tsc2003.c |
| 15:45.42 | BabelO_ | rob_w: yes it is the kernel for it, i think android patch are inside |
| 15:46.47 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: no I don't have the file with the two lines anymore. if the pendown irq code is not in git, I don't have it either |
| 15:48.25 | tmzt_mp900c | can you try putting one of those back and see if it will build, does it build now? |
| 15:49.37 | *** part/#htc-linux zoolooc (n=lucian@nrbg-4dbf819c.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 15:49.37 | dcordes | tmzt_mp900c: yes, htc-msm is based on some revision of the android-msm branch at git.android.com. can you try booting kaiser kernel on your nike? |
| 15:49.49 | dcordes | s/tmzt_mp900c/rob_w/ |
| 15:57.32 | dcordes | rob_w: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ hrere are some builds |
| 16:08.54 | *** join/#htc-linux Robwoerle (n=bob@Ma3c7.m.pppool.de) |
| 16:19.26 | *** join/#htc-linux rob__w (n=bob@Ma1ce.m.pppool.de) |
| 16:25.12 | dcordes | bbl |
| 16:36.22 | *** join/#htc-linux TeringTu1y (n=maarten@195-241-125-243.ip.telfort.nl) |
| 16:52.13 | *** join/#htc-linux OpnSrc1 (i=harisha1@gateway/tor/x-9f1c0ef42c66f5c1) |
| 17:00.14 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (i=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:00.46 | *** join/#htc-linux okias (i=ejabberd@poseidon.kraja.cz) |
| 17:01.08 | okias | Hello i have cool news: http://xazz.no-ip.info/projects/gitweb.cgi?p=acx-mac80211.git;a=commitdiff;h=4780d3f7932ed239c37680396468f811bb64dbb9 :-D acx under 2.6.26 ;-) |
| 17:02.01 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem2 (n=user@dhcp-x219-132.mobile.uci.edu) |
| 17:02.11 | *** join/#htc-linux the_sys0p (n=the_sys0@cpe-76-88-212-37.bak.res.rr.com) |
| 17:07.51 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (i=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:28.40 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:30.49 | *** join/#htc-linux chab7 (n=kvirc@212.92.4.114) |
| 17:45.16 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:47.47 | *** join/#htc-linux diogene31 (n=rj@mur31-2-82-243-122-54.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:50.47 | *** join/#htc-linux jeebster (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 17:54.11 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (i=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:06.18 | *** join/#htc-linux marbalon (n=balon@aegh182.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:14.42 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB__ (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:15.35 | *** join/#htc-linux kiozen (n=oeichler@rgnb-5d866757.pool.einsundeins.de) |
| 18:19.48 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:29.01 | *** join/#htc-linux drasar (n=maik@77.93.211.13-msol.msol.cz) |
| 18:32.42 | *** join/#htc-linux jeebster (i=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:36.49 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB__ (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 18:53.08 | drasar | Hi cr2 |
| 18:57.38 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:00.26 | *** join/#htc-linux wasup (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 19:00.30 | *** join/#htc-linux jeebster (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:06.23 | *** join/#htc-linux infernix (i=nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 19:06.26 | ginge | wotcha |
| 19:06.44 | ginge | joshts0: pong? |
| 19:07.02 | ginge | tmzt_mp900c: did you get your question resolved? |
| 19:13.46 | drasar | cr2: I have find out if I comment "struct pxa2xx_udc_gpio_info himalaya_udc_info" and "static struct platform_device himalaya_udc" and use original "static struct platform_device himalaya_udc = { .name = "himalaya-udc", };", the message about udc (dis)connect is printed |
| 19:14.41 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB__ (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:15.01 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem2 (n=user@dhcp-209b-148.mobile.uci.edu) |
| 19:15.42 | drasar | cr2: But after my modification is no message printed |
| 19:19.49 | *** join/#htc-linux JEEB (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:20.48 | ginge | joshts0: tmzt_mp900c: got to go for a few hours... maybe later ;) |
| 19:21.19 | marajin | ginge: See I said you've formed a tendency to sneak on in the evening/night! And there you are right on cue :P |
| 19:21.38 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@unaffiliated/babelo) |
| 19:22.44 | wasup | whats up everyone? any new happenings? |
| 19:23.05 | marajin | wasup: We installed linux on the pope this morning! |
| 19:23.29 | marajin | Catholicism will never be the same! |
| 19:23.31 | wasup | yeah? |
| 19:23.32 | wasup | cool |
| 19:23.39 | BabelO | cr2: look for blueangel here -> http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/item/Real_World_Testing_For_Geeks-the_Nokia_N95_takes_on_the_iPhone_3G_and_ATT_Tilt_in_the_Geek_Smackdown_of_the_Week.php |
| 19:24.31 | wasup | what is the actual model name for the pope? |
| 19:24.48 | chab7 | bye all |
| 19:34.23 | *** join/#htc-linux jeebster (n=kanakana@a91-156-61-240.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 19:44.07 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:56.29 | marajin | wasup: HTC DarthSidious ;) |
| 20:07.20 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:07.54 | *** part/#htc-linux okias (i=ejabberd@poseidon.kraja.cz) |
| 20:10.14 | *** join/#htc-linux no2chem (n=user@dhcp-100c-221.mobile.uci.edu) |
| 20:22.04 | *** part/#htc-linux wasup (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 20:41.03 | *** join/#htc-linux wasup (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 20:45.51 | cr2 | drasar: it seems that you've created a mess of the old and new code. |
| 20:48.39 | drasar | cr2: You can check it at http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/himalaya.c |
| 20:52.22 | cr2 | drasar: puen is gpio60 |
| 20:54.17 | ginge | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.36 | ginge | hmm. well hi |
| 20:59.20 | drasar | cr2: .power_gpio = {... ? |
| 21:01.37 | drasar | cr2: ...in "himalaya.c"? |
| 21:03.05 | marajin | 'lo ginge |
| 21:03.08 | marajin | how goes the move? |
| 21:03.18 | cr2 | drasar: yes. |
| 21:03.19 | ginge | weeps |
| 21:03.30 | marajin | That well? |
| 21:03.42 | marajin | I expected you to be gnawing your arm off by now. |
| 21:04.01 | marajin | I left my window open lest you send carrier pigeons with a flash drive tied to them with a new zImageto try :P |
| 21:04.03 | ginge | marajin: ;) not too bad. getting very tired, and I am sick of putting together ikea furnature |
| 21:04.44 | ginge | probably faster than the glacial pace that BT move at. 7 days to get a line!! |
| 21:04.45 | marajin | mmm cheap swedish flatpack goodness |
| 21:04.53 | marajin | hah :P |
| 21:05.17 | ginge | is internet withdrawal a real illness yet? |
| 21:05.25 | marajin | ginge: Only amongst geeks |
| 21:05.31 | ginge | damn |
| 21:05.51 | marajin | Though ya know most doctors have HTC devices now! |
| 21:06.03 | ginge | marajin: that'll do ;) |
| 21:06.12 | marajin | hah :P |
| 21:06.43 | marajin | old ones, several years old at least |
| 21:07.01 | marajin | I said to my GP "YOu still got those things?!" and he went "Why, what should we be using now?" so I showed him the kaiser |
| 21:07.29 | ginge | heh. Did he accuse you of being a spaceman from hundreds of years in the future |
| 21:07.48 | marajin | nah he said it worked fine as it was and he doesn't do home visits anymore |
| 21:07.52 | ginge | ...while winding the spring of his phone up |
| 21:08.10 | marajin | heh |
| 21:08.24 | marajin | remember the original HP pda-phone that is a rebranded HTC? |
| 21:08.37 | ginge | WDA range? |
| 21:08.49 | marajin | Don't remember to be honest |
| 21:08.55 | ginge | has a 928 |
| 21:09.18 | cr2 | marajin: rebranded ? |
| 21:09.33 | marajin | theyr'e branded HP but they're made by HTC I think |
| 21:09.35 | ginge | I thought is was a proper HP device tho |
| 21:09.51 | marajin | hmm a coupla the HPs are HTCs, the rest are really HP yeah |
| 21:10.29 | ginge | behold the awesomeness of the WDA range: |
| 21:10.30 | ginge | http://pdadb.net/img/j928.jpg |
| 21:11.04 | marajin | oh god thats a Jornoda or whatever they called 'em isn't it? |
| 21:11.08 | ginge | yeah |
| 21:11.13 | marajin | No it's not tha told but it's only slightly less clunky |
| 21:11.24 | ginge | that phone is smaller than the ba! |
| 21:11.38 | marajin | I said clunky not chunky :P |
| 21:11.44 | ginge | heh |
| 21:12.57 | ginge | that was a great phone. first omap I hacked a kernel onto. I even wrote some ce code to put the mp3 I was listening to on the screen :) 2 screens is great. |
| 21:13.30 | ginge | marajin: so I don't see the device you are referring to... newer than the jornada? |
| 21:13.44 | marajin | ginge: I can't remember its exact name |
| 21:13.48 | drasar | cr2: And what should be there? ".power_gpio = { &himalaya_asic3.dev, ASIC3_GPIOA_IRQ_BASE + GPIO_NR_HIMALAYA_USB_PULLUP_N}," ? |
| 21:15.26 | dcordes | good evening |
| 21:15.56 | ginge | evening |
| 21:16.13 | dcordes | so the moving is going well? |
| 21:16.29 | ginge | very well thanks. just about keeping things together. |
| 21:17.26 | ginge | just taking a break for a few hours now... maybe enough time to look at some dma issues ;) |
| 21:19.15 | dcordes | that's great to hear. try not to construct those ikea shelfs too fast or you end up forgetting those important screws that hold toger the whole thing |
| 21:19.36 | cr2 | drasar: look how it's done on looxc550.c, you don't need to create such monster code. |
| 21:19.46 | ginge | damn cheap crap needs new holes drilling anyway. |
| 21:20.04 | ginge | I have a frankensofa and a frankentable at the moment |
| 21:20.17 | dcordes | my wardrobe has two angle irons in the bottom right :) |
| 21:20.21 | cr2 | ginge: hehe. there were original hp devices ;) |
| 21:20.35 | cr2 | ginge: even itsy was done by DEC people. |
| 21:21.04 | drasar | cr2: ok |
| 21:21.05 | cr2 | ginge: it's 'hp innovation' |
| 21:21.15 | ginge | cr2: nice :) |
| 21:21.37 | ginge | cr2: I assume long gone now |
| 21:22.32 | *** join/#htc-linux miknix (n=miknix@bl4-89-44.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 21:23.15 | dcordes | hey miknix |
| 21:23.19 | miknix | hey dase |
| 21:23.21 | miknix | ops |
| 21:23.23 | miknix | dcordes, |
| 21:23.32 | dcordes | how's the weather in omap850 land :) ? |
| 21:23.46 | cr2 | ginge: if you can name an original hp device, i'd be very surprised. |
| 21:23.47 | ginge | autocomplete-tastic by the sounds of it ;) |
| 21:23.54 | marajin | heh :P |
| 21:23.56 | marajin | oh dear |
| 21:24.07 | marajin | they let top gear need a german supercar called the "gumpert" |
| 21:24.13 | miknix | dcordes, I'm trying to boot mine from SPL |
| 21:24.27 | miknix | its a cid locked G4 |
| 21:24.35 | ginge | cr2: can't really think of any. Only jornada PDA range |
| 21:24.57 | dcordes | miknix: oh sexy. I would like to boot directly on kaiser too. do you know no2chem? he knows much about the spl on kaiser |
| 21:25.08 | ginge | marajin: is that the one that goes like stink? |
| 21:25.12 | cr2 | ginge: ok. but these are also not phones. |
| 21:25.20 | marajin | ginge: I dunno they haven't got that far, but it's fugly |
| 21:25.24 | ginge | cr2: I mean WDA range |
| 21:25.25 | dcordes | miknix: I don't know how similar wizard and kaiser spl are |
| 21:25.29 | marajin | ginge: ANd 'Gumpert' ? what a name |
| 21:25.40 | ginge | marajin: lol, yeah :) |
| 21:25.47 | cr2 | dcordes: you need to sign the .nbh linload.exe for that. |
| 21:26.06 | marajin | It's got ludicrously adjustable settings supposedly but changing any of them seem to make it spin out |
| 21:26.09 | BabelO | ola miknix, still not booting from HTC bootloader ? i use only that here :) |
| 21:26.11 | cr2 | ginge: wda928 ? is something known about this device ? |
| 21:26.21 | cr2 | BabelO: on ba too ? |
| 21:26.23 | miknix | BabelO, mine is cid locked :( |
| 21:26.48 | cr2 | miknix: sign it. |
| 21:26.54 | ginge | cr2: in what way? I have one and somewhere on a DAT I have the kernel I hacked onto it |
| 21:26.54 | BabelO | cr2: no, code is done for omap mmc :) |
| 21:26.57 | dcordes | cr2: no2chem told me, the windows kernel just has to live at a certain position and then spl will load it to ram |
| 21:27.09 | miknix | cr2, were I can dump de signature? |
| 21:27.13 | marajin | ginge: Hah, yeah I guess it's a fast bugger. 700bhp ? |
| 21:27.38 | ginge | marajin: wowser. makes my car look likw lawnmower. |
| 21:27.52 | cr2 | ginge: hw details ? |
| 21:27.53 | dcordes | BabelO: you use only spl to boot? on artemis? |
| 21:27.54 | marajin | ginge: You can get to 150mph on about 165bhp |
| 21:28.11 | miknix | dcordes, I'm trying to use jumpSPL (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334667) to launch a super cid SPL for running EOL from he diagnostic card |
| 21:28.17 | dcordes | needs liscense :( |
| 21:28.18 | cr2 | dcordes: then you need a working nand driver. |
| 21:28.31 | marajin | ginge: But BHP being what it is, you start to need ludicrous amounts to get up to 250 (e.g. the Veyron = 252mph @ over 1000 bhp) |
| 21:28.51 | ginge | cr2: omap710 132MHZ |
| 21:29.11 | cr2 | miknix: check typhoondecode.pl |
| 21:29.22 | dcordes | cr2: |
| 21:29.26 | miknix | cr2, K, thanks |
| 21:29.37 | cr2 | ginge: 710 ? how did you hack the kernel for it ? |
| 21:29.38 | dcordes | cr2: right.. |
| 21:29.51 | ginge | cr2: jtagged the crap out of it at work |
| 21:30.04 | cr2 | hehe. |
| 21:30.17 | ginge | cr2: was a few years ago now. I think I got uart going and thats about it |
| 21:30.52 | marajin | man they say some weird things about the stig :P |
| 21:30.54 | cr2 | ginge: ok |
| 21:31.05 | miknix | someone has a local copy of typhoondecode.pl ? |
| 21:31.07 | miknix | cant find it |
| 21:31.12 | marajin | "They say it's impossible for him to wear socks, and they say he can open beer bottles with his testes" |
| 21:31.24 | ginge | marajin: some say he is half man, half biscuit. other say its the other way around... the only thing I know is... |
| 21:31.46 | dcordes | haha who's the stig? |
| 21:31.46 | marajin | impossible to wearsocks and open beer bottles with his testes is probably crazier :P |
| 21:31.58 | marajin | dcordes: The race driver that tests the supercars they review |
| 21:32.06 | marajin | dcordes: his identity is kept secret |
| 21:32.14 | marajin | dcordes: He always wears a jumpsuit and helmet |
| 21:32.22 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:32.23 | marajin | dcordes: They call him the stig and every show they say two weird things about him |
| 21:32.42 | dcordes | ok don't they run out of weird things? |
| 21:32.50 | marajin | not yet |
| 21:32.53 | marajin | they do get crazier though |
| 21:33.04 | marajin | you do realise what they say doesn't have to be /true/ right? :P |
| 21:33.15 | ginge | marajin: I would love to know what pictures jezza finds :) I reckon maybe goatse |
| 21:33.21 | dcordes | huh? no the football field is very big marajin |
| 21:33.25 | marajin | What they actually say is "Some say <thing>, some say <thing>, All we know is.." |
| 21:33.27 | dcordes | no idea what you are talking about. |
| 21:33.45 | BabelO | dcordes: yes i can boot from device reset directly on sdcard without haret :) |
| 21:33.54 | marajin | ginge: I've seen them, they're bizarre porn. e.g. this episode is a guy sticking his cock in a car exhaust |
| 21:34.11 | ginge | marajin: dare I ask ;) |
| 21:34.24 | ginge | some say he doesn't sleep, Some say he is a vampire. All we know is... he is dcordes |
| 21:34.33 | dcordes | BabelO: wow that's nice. people keep asking me if I know htc devices that can boot directly. Do you have that boot process documented somewhere? |
| 21:34.44 | miknix | BabelO, that's cool. I spent a lot of time trying to reset the MMC host after booting from wm5 and I failed |
| 21:35.07 | BabelO | miknix: you try to disassemble nk ? |
| 21:35.12 | miknix | yes |
| 21:35.41 | miknix | I have the code sequence where it resets the MMC. I'm doing it all upon linux boot |
| 21:35.54 | miknix | it still doesn't reset |
| 21:35.55 | miknix | : \ |
| 21:36.46 | *** join/#htc-linux BabelO (n=Fabrice@lun34-2-82-238-28-28.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:37.14 | cr2 | hehe. diamond with the keyboard ? http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Raphael |
| 21:37.50 | marajin | cr2: I want that phone but I sooo can't afford/justify it :( |
| 21:38.13 | dcordes | marajin: justify?? :D |
| 21:38.25 | dcordes | somebody will have to get it |
| 21:38.25 | marajin | dcordes: I could get one technically but it'd be very stupid to do |
| 21:38.37 | ginge | wow that looks nice |
| 21:38.39 | dcordes | why |
| 21:38.52 | marajin | dcordes: Because I'd probably go slowly bankrupt from the cost |
| 21:38.52 | dcordes | sell kaiser |
| 21:39.06 | marajin | dcordes: ... Nooooo |
| 21:39.22 | marajin | I did sell some random junk computer bits from off my carpet today for 100 pounds though |
| 21:39.22 | ginge | how much is that sim free :) |
| 21:39.48 | cr2 | RAM capacity: 288 MB ?!? |
| 21:39.57 | dcordes | marajin: I'm also going to do that. the blueangel is only lying around, gaining dust and I have those laptop parts |
| 21:40.07 | marajin | cr2: Yep! |
| 21:40.12 | dcordes | cr2: and it is vga |
| 21:40.28 | marajin | dcordes: And it's a 7201A so android might luff it more? :P |
| 21:40.31 | cr2 | ~expr 288 - 256 |
| 21:40.33 | ginge | drools |
| 21:40.43 | cr2 | 32mb |
| 21:40.45 | marajin | cr2: 32M man |
| 21:40.56 | dcordes | I wasn't aware it's already on the market |
| 21:41.01 | cr2 | lol, they count sram now ? wtf. |
| 21:41.04 | marajin | dcordes: It isn't. August release I think |
| 21:41.11 | marajin | dcordes: YOu can get the diamond but not the raphael |
| 21:41.25 | BabelO | miknix: my main problem is the resume part, it works mostly, just have MMC suspend issue..... |
| 21:41.26 | dcordes | Released in: June 4, 2008 <- so that refers to the info from htc |
| 21:41.29 | ginge | pre relase sim free £988 |
| 21:41.36 | cr2 | Dot Pitch: 0.09 millimetre/pixel |
| 21:41.51 | cr2 | insane as on moko. |
| 21:41.52 | marajin | ginge: They're er.. 515 quid or something :P |
| 21:42.10 | cr2 | sounds like a total ripoff |
| 21:42.12 | dcordes | cr2: eyecandy is needed |
| 21:42.12 | miknix | BabelO, nice.. I also have the MMC suspend asm code traced, I'll look at it later |
| 21:42.25 | dcordes | I need to get close on kaiser to see a pixel |
| 21:42.37 | cr2 | dcordes: it's braindead to have vga on 2.8" LCD |
| 21:42.54 | miknix | cr2, typhoonnbfdecode.pl ? |
| 21:43.01 | cr2 | dcordes: this dpi is "better" than a laser printer. |
| 21:43.04 | cr2 | miknix: yes |
| 21:43.06 | marajin | cr2: Yeah but it's so sexy :P |
| 21:43.11 | ginge | marajin: so I should shop around |
| 21:43.24 | marajin | ginge: That was shopping around I think, the rest were up to 100 quid higher |
| 21:43.54 | BabelO | dcordes: on blueangel you will see the big pixel :) |
| 21:43.56 | ginge | marajin: I can so see myself getting one of these :( |
| 21:44.15 | ginge | marajin: and eating beans for a year |
| 21:44.34 | dcordes | BabelO: blueangel still makes a good movie player |
| 21:44.50 | cr2 | BabelO: lol -> FM Radio with RDS (Proprietary headset as antenna) |
| 21:44.52 | dcordes | ginge: eat rice :) |
| 21:45.02 | BabelO | dcordes: yes even for big divx file from computer |
| 21:45.12 | cr2 | dcordes: BA has accelereated ati video. |
| 21:45.12 | BabelO | cr2: yes ;) |
| 21:45.25 | dcordes | cr2: I was never aware we can use this |
| 21:45.47 | dcordes | I play qvga mpeg stream just fine |
| 21:45.48 | marajin | ginge: srsly, they're gorgeous looking things. I love the styling. At last HTC has kinda said "Fine, we'll see your iPhone and raise you" |
| 21:45.53 | BabelO | cr2: some schematics are on xda-dev forum, easy to understand and not rally new thing always same working antenna :) |
| 21:46.02 | cr2 | dcordes: there is Xati or something like that x server. |
| 21:46.26 | marajin | dcordes: There's a german topgear?! |
| 21:46.46 | dcordes | marajin: I have nfc about cars and I never heard about topgear before |
| 21:47.12 | ginge | marajin: "I see your iphone and we raise... oh, windows mobile." "bob, get the guys on rewriting the interface. We can polish this turd yet" |
| 21:47.16 | dcordes | cr2: BabelO did you try the accerlated xserver with moko on ba? |
| 21:47.34 | marajin | dcordes: Dude you don't watch top gear for cars. You watch it to see them set carvans on fire and launch a triwheel car as space shuttle |
| 21:47.43 | dcordes | it will probably outrun moko with the bandwidth problems with their glamo chip :p |
| 21:47.51 | ginge | marajin: or go to the states and get shot at |
| 21:48.05 | marajin | ginge: Hah! have you seen manilla (diamond/raphael interface) ? It looks quite sparky |
| 21:48.12 | marajin | I have no idea how useable it is though |
| 21:48.21 | cr2 | dcordes: moko is vga. so it's not a big deal to outrun it. |
| 21:48.30 | ginge | marajin: like a 911 turbo body on a skoda |
| 21:49.21 | marajin | ginge: Nah man, it's like a Zonda body on a Zonda chassis driven by James May ;) All the hardware is there but captain slow is in charge! :P |
| 21:49.24 | BabelO | ginge: skoda are very good, got one 7 years ago :) |
| 21:49.43 | ginge | BabelO: these days, yeah |
| 21:49.50 | BabelO | dcordes: no, better is hx4700 x server |
| 21:50.06 | BabelO | ginge: now i keep french cars :) |
| 21:50.33 | ginge | BabelO: I had the choice of Renault or a VW. I picked the wrong team :( (damn german cars) |
| 21:51.04 | BabelO | ginge: lol, i have a peugeot, only 5l/km , these days it is very well :) |
| 21:51.15 | dcordes | cr2: I don't understand why mokos evaluated the gta02 hardware only to an extent so it turns out now that the graphic chip is complete useless |
| 21:51.31 | ginge | BabelO: VW Passat. 25l/km ;) |
| 21:51.40 | marajin | ginge: Man you'd have suffered worse with a renault |
| 21:51.47 | BabelO | lol |
| 21:52.10 | ginge | marajin: I don't know. The passat caught fire on the motorway. Thats pretty bad. |
| 21:52.29 | ginge | marajin: then the waterpump exploded. Then the wiring went. Now the ... it goes on |
| 21:52.47 | marajin | ginge: Well yeah but the renault'd probably just decide it's had enough, fall to pieces and go to find a lamppost to make loveto ;) |
| 21:53.49 | ginge | I had a Renault 25 (21?) the one that talks to you. Well one day it decided I didn't have my seatbelt on and wouldn't start. just kept saying "SEATBELT!!!" in an irritated tone :) |
| 21:54.10 | ginge | like an irked Renault pixie |
| 21:54.37 | marajin | ginge: Yeah they're tempramental as all buggery |
| 21:54.54 | dcordes | ginge: so you shorted the wiring in the belt? |
| 21:55.15 | ginge | dcordes: um? |
| 21:55.41 | dcordes | how did you make it start again? |
| 21:55.42 | BabelO | ginge: we are not looking in same car category :) |
| 21:55.50 | ginge | dcordes: AA dragged it to the scrapyard |
| 21:56.39 | ginge | BabelO: in what way, am I cheap ;) |
| 21:57.12 | ginge | dcordes: AA == recovery service |
| 21:57.58 | dcordes | that's ADAC here |
| 21:58.18 | ginge | brb |
| 21:59.34 | cr2 | dcordes: i don't know. they should have used an ati chip with a binary driver. |
| 22:00.11 | cr2 | dcordes: they can't claim a 100% free software phone anyway. |
| 22:00.54 | cr2 | dcordes: but a binary ati driver would have been a nice target to debug :) |
| 22:01.20 | dcordes | cr2: they have to sell the people _something_. when they say ok all the hardware specs are publicly available except of the modem, it's better than saying some hardware is transparent. |
| 22:01.23 | *** join/#htc-linux meredydd (n=meredydd@cpc4-cmbg2-0-0-cust471.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:02.11 | cr2 | dcordes: it didn't stop them from having a binary gps blob for moko1. |
| 22:02.47 | dcordes | cr2: I wasn't aware of it. you say moko1, is there a different one in the new? |
| 22:02.54 | marajin | ginge: Rofl... did you see the german vs english presentors races they did? |
| 22:03.43 | ginge | marajin: great episode |
| 22:03.45 | cr2 | dcordes: there is moko1 and moko2 phone. moko2 is more like a hermes without ati and the keyboard, but with gps. |
| 22:03.56 | marajin | ginge: Sabine swearing madly at clarkson is a good laugh :P |
| 22:04.24 | ginge | marajin: she is an awesome driver. did you see the van challenge |
| 22:04.26 | cr2 | dcordes: moko1 is more like a proof of concept phone. you can't even compare it to htc hardware-wise. |
| 22:04.37 | marajin | ginge: At nuernburg a while ago? yeah |
| 22:04.52 | dcordes | cr2: yes I know. the glamo chip is only in the freerunner |
| 22:05.58 | dcordes | cr2: one of the moko employes is going to get a kaiser and says will port the command sets |
| 22:06.15 | cr2 | dcordes: imvho finishing hermes port would have been a better service for free software. |
| 22:06.28 | *** join/#htc-linux wasup (n=Tech@208.47.103.106) |
| 22:07.04 | dcordes | cr2: such a project would never gain moko's popularity, which also is a service to oss |
| 22:07.17 | cr2 | dcordes: kaiser is a completely different beast. moko2 and hermes have the same cpu, and are comparable in capabilities. |
| 22:07.52 | ginge | dcordes: so did anyone investigate the new usb code in google git yet? |
| 22:07.58 | cr2 | dcordes: it depends on the point of view. |
| 22:08.35 | dcordes | cr2: I would probably have never gotten involved into open source without cannonical. |
| 22:08.55 | cr2 | cannonical ? |
| 22:09.00 | ginge | dcordes: cannonical? |
| 22:09.13 | dcordes | that's the ubuntu company http://www.canonical.com/ |
| 22:09.21 | dcordes | -n |
| 22:09.35 | ginge | dcordes: oh right. I didn't know they did any more than package stuff. |
| 22:10.10 | *** join/#htc-linux rmoravcik (n=rmoravci@ip-89-102-255-171.karneval.cz) |
| 22:10.12 | ginge | dcordes: so how did they get you into it? |
| 22:10.31 | dcordes | ginge: marketing |
| 22:10.56 | dcordes | shiny corporate designs, advertisements, soemhow gained my attention |
| 22:11.07 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:11.15 | ginge | dcordes: fair enough |
| 22:11.56 | dcordes | old unixers laugh about such projects, especially with commerical background, I say it is important getting many poeple in |
| 22:11.57 | ginge | dcordes: I got into it before the commercialism, and I don't really get to see much of that stuff |
| 22:12.13 | cr2 | dcordes: i use free software since 1994. usually i don't give a fsck about marketing. |
| 22:12.17 | ginge | dcordes: I say fair play to them |
| 22:12.20 | dcordes | I know that |
| 22:12.33 | ginge | cr2: about the same time for me |
| 22:13.27 | ginge | it was so much harder back then, these days, especially with yout ubuntus and whatnot, it is so much easier to get anything done |
| 22:13.46 | cr2 | dcordes: btw, that's why i'm not really buing into the android hype. |
| 22:14.05 | ginge | cr2: I might be interested when I see the source |
| 22:14.08 | dcordes | cr2: I'm aware oss is not about marketing, but without it, I would still use xp |
| 22:14.26 | dcordes | cr2: sorry, what do you mean, you are not buying it? |
| 22:14.43 | cr2 | ginge: lol, it was a hard time to find a mitsumi cdrom drive in 1994, because it was the only one with a linux driver :) |
| 22:15.22 | dcordes | cr2: don't think of me in a way like I was amazed by android |
| 22:15.23 | BabelO | cr2: i have one :) |
| 22:15.30 | cr2 | dcordes: i see it more as a marketing machine to push google software (+spyware). |
| 22:15.39 | dcordes | same here |
| 22:15.43 | ginge | cr2: I think I have one too :) |
| 22:16.56 | dcordes | latest playstation3 rom upgrade installs a 'search' applet into the main menu. I told my friend, type something and the ps3 browser will pop up with the results in google :) |
| 22:17.06 | ginge | cr2: I ran linux on my a4000 around then iirc |
| 22:17.24 | BabelO | the only working old cd drive i ve is a sony x2 pluged on sound card :) still working, others are died |
| 22:17.48 | ginge | BabelO: oh wow, forgot about that crazy sound card ide! |
| 22:18.10 | dcordes | cr2: and before you know, it is also on your toaster |
| 22:18.24 | cr2 | :) |
| 22:18.51 | cr2 | ginge: a4000 ? is it an arm machine ? |
| 22:18.53 | ginge | dcordes: but not in really important things, like hospitals :/ |
| 22:19.33 | ginge | cr2 amiga a4000 motorola 68040 |
| 22:19.55 | cr2 | http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t196016-mitsumi-double-speed-cdrom-driver.html |
| 22:19.58 | cr2 | ginge: ok. |
| 22:20.16 | BabelO | cr2: my sony clie works well on linux now, but all GUI are too big :( |
| 22:21.14 | ginge | 2004? is that person insane? |
| 22:21.27 | cr2 | LOL |
| 22:21.43 | cr2 | BabelO: isn't clie vga ? |
| 22:22.14 | ginge | dcordes: I guess no for the google usb? |
| 22:22.34 | dcordes | ginge: why not? you think it will softreset when you open the ekg applet? |
| 22:22.38 | joshts0 | ginge: hey just checking the status of the titan driver? |
| 22:22.54 | dcordes | ginge: I have no clue.. I just looked at the commits |
| 22:23.10 | ginge | joshts0: nothing going on i'm afraid. I am half way through moving house |
| 22:23.16 | cr2 | Here's how the line you'd add to your /etc/lilo.conf looks: |
| 22:23.16 | cr2 | append="mcd=0x300,11" |
| 22:23.19 | BabelO | cr2: no it is sony clie T675C 32Mb of ram 68SZ328 66hz dragon ball cpu |
| 22:23.26 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:23.49 | ginge | dcordes: I used to work for hospital it and even the ekgs are windows :/ |
| 22:23.54 | BabelO | cr2: color display :) mq1100 graphic driver + ads7846 touchscreen |
| 22:24.03 | ginge | dcordes: seems crimial to me |
| 22:24.05 | cr2 | yeah, it was possible to change the isa address and irq line on the mcd card . |
| 22:24.49 | cr2 | BabelO: mq1100 is supported since ipaq/axim times ? |
| 22:25.10 | dcordes | shivers imagining being dependent of a win 98se kernel |
| 22:25.26 | ginge | seriously |
| 22:25.27 | marajin | dependant on a win 98 SE? |
| 22:25.38 | BabelO | cr2: i ve it on uclinux tree since a while :) cz guy who made it for its Clie or maybe mq3100, i ll check :) |
| 22:25.58 | ginge | marajin: you would be dead within minutes. "screens blue, bring in the crash team" |
| 22:26.13 | marajin | No kiding |
| 22:26.28 | BabelO | cr2: yes it is mediaq-1100 framebuffer |
| 22:26.37 | marajin | I don't really trust 'em anyway |
| 22:27.03 | ginge | yeah, about as much as I trust the outcome of the last US election |
| 22:27.18 | dcordes | ginge: last two? |
| 22:27.25 | ginge | touche |
| 22:27.34 | dcordes | it doesn't seem that long does it |
| 22:29.54 | ginge | probably should say that sort of thing in a public channel, you never know who is... is that a black helicopter? ... It's not very often you see men in black suits around here... hey, the door.... Oh *£^" |
| 22:29.56 | dcordes | nothing more ot than global politics |
| 22:33.00 | BabelO | cr2: http://home.comcast.net/~anton.solovyev/linux-on-clie/linux-on-clie.html |
| 22:33.29 | BabelO | cr2: maybe i can use it in my car for something ;) just need to remove the case |
| 22:33.32 | marajin | waah, I just remembered why I /never/ watch these modern reality tv/real people documentaries |
| 22:33.40 | dcordes | ginge: so if you will look into you .25 working tree anyway, can you diff it against the google branch you based on? |
| 22:33.42 | marajin | they're irritating and depressing all at the same time |
| 22:35.20 | dcordes | ginge: so we can finally integrate dzo |
| 22:35.34 | cr2 | BabelO: ok |
| 22:35.57 | BabelO | cr2: maybe qtopia 1 can run on it |
| 22:36.11 | dcordes | ginge: are you in android-msm-2.6.25? |
| 22:36.31 | dcordes | or msm-/android-? |
| 22:37.15 | ginge | dcordes: android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 22:37.26 | ginge | dcordes: are you standardising builds? |
| 22:38.47 | dcordes | not yet. I'm just going to get vogue into your tree. think that's about the standardiszation we can get at this point |
| 22:38.58 | dcordes | well, martin__'s *-smd.c |
| 22:45.15 | dcordes | ginge: or what do you mean by standardising? |
| 22:46.16 | ginge | dcordes: be careful with the vogue merge. it will need a massive rewrite to get the dzo stuff working with the same stuff as us. eg egpio is very different |
| 22:47.05 | dcordes | ginge: at least I will try to start. I know he doesn't use the htc-egpio driver |
| 22:47.35 | ginge | dcordes: yeah. Try and replace his register numbers with the alternative names too. |
| 22:47.38 | dcordes | it would be a useful step to get vogue make use of it, considering htc-egpio is alredy in mainline |
| 23:00.24 | dcordes | ginge: sorry if I'm bothering, what did you do to get the regs needed to get the backlight to turn of, a.k.a. how can I trace proc_comm? |
| 23:14.35 | ginge | dcordes: http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/kaiser-2.6.25.diff |
| 23:15.41 | dcordes | ginge: even a git :) thanks a lot |
| 23:16.14 | dcordes | ginge: is ther any other big problems besides the mmc problem also present in .24? |
| 23:16.17 | ginge | dcordes: yeah getting the hand of git |
| 23:16.23 | ginge | s/hand/hang/ |
| 23:16.41 | ginge | dcordes: not that I can tell. you wouldn't know otherwise |
| 23:17.15 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:19.42 | ginge | dcordes: haven't tried calling in that zImage, but data works (I think) |
| 23:20.04 | dcordes | ok I will poke around a bit and boot android |
| 23:20.22 | ginge | dcordes: sorry I can't be more specific. I barely know what day it is, nevermind what I did last week |
| 23:22.28 | ginge | dcordes: also i am not using google absolute latest code, so ymmv |
| 23:24.35 | dcordes | I'm getting latest android-msm-2.6.25 |
| 23:25.16 | ginge | okay, thats the one I work from. It should be okay as not much has changed. |
| 23:34.04 | dcordes | I wonder why you can turn the kaiser panel and backlight off but not on |
| 23:45.19 | marajin | Well guys, I'm going to go sleep |
| 23:45.27 | marajin | (yeah, at a half sane time! nuts innit?) |
| 23:45.55 | marajin | Tomorrow shall be a day of visiting the medical specialist and dialing up the DWP and going, "**ahem** .... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH. am not happy" |
| 23:46.33 | *** part/#htc-linux ginge (n=baz@cpc6-ward3-0-0-cust579.manc.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:47.37 | dcordes | marajin: good luck then, sleep well |
| 23:48.06 | dcordes | also setps in casket |
| 23:48.11 | marajin | dcordes: Heh, well I never get good luck with the DWP |
| 23:48.15 | marajin | dcordes: Buncha fuckwits |
| 23:48.21 | dcordes | what's the DWP? |
| 23:48.39 | marajin | dcordes: Department of Work and Pensions. They're like er.. state benefit office. |
| 23:48.54 | marajin | dcordes: They cheated on my medical review so that they could declare me fit for work. |
| 23:49.27 | *** join/#htc-linux tmzt (n=tmzt@adsl-70-228-81-193.dsl.akrnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 23:49.32 | marajin | dcordes: That is to say, they work on a kinda points grading system for mental and physical issues and you have to score 15 overall to be considered unfit for work right. which isn't teribly fair inthe first place. |
| 23:49.45 | marajin | dcordes: But they cheated by not asking me some of the questions or not asking them directly. |
| 23:50.11 | marajin | dcordes: Like the checklist thing they have says something like... "Do you get irritated doing tasks you previously enjoyed?" |
| 23:50.25 | marajin | dcordes: But what they ACTUALLY asked me was "How often do you get angry?" |
| 23:50.37 | marajin | dcordes: And it's like... well angry != irritated. |
| 23:50.54 | marajin | dcordes: And how often is irrelevant compared to doing tasks I used to enjoy ya know? |
| 23:51.22 | dcordes | that really sucks |
| 23:51.34 | dcordes | in case you're really ill and they know that |
| 23:51.38 | dcordes | not so human |
| 23:51.40 | marajin | yeah |
| 23:51.45 | marajin | they just want their figures to look better |
| 23:51.53 | marajin | "look we got x amount of people off benefit" |
| 23:52.30 | marajin | One of the questions was actually "Do you often like to be alone?" which they never asked.. |
| 23:52.38 | marajin | they asked me how often I go out with friends |
| 23:52.53 | dcordes | that makes me recall french exams, when the teacher pushed the results so they wouldn't need to reissue the test :D |
| 23:52.55 | marajin | and TBH I said I rarely go out with friends |
| 23:53.12 | marajin | and they still didn't check that point on the chart |
| 23:54.00 | dcordes | ah well I'd just try and be honest and if that not works out, talk to your lawyer |
| 23:54.12 | marajin | dcordes: I was honest, they weren't :P |
| 23:54.22 | marajin | dcordes: Now I have to drag it into a kinda mini court case yeah |
| 23:54.24 | dcordes | get complaining then |
| 23:54.31 | dcordes | go for it |
| 23:54.31 | marajin | dcordes: But is it worth it for 60 euros/week ? |
| 23:54.36 | dcordes | yes |
| 23:54.54 | marajin | dcordes: what's 60 euros/week man? That's not even food enough for me |
| 23:55.29 | tcccp | marajin: You're expensive shopping |
| 23:55.37 | tcccp | 60 EUR a week would be food including beer |
| 23:56.03 | marajin | tcccp: I weigh 112kg, I get ill if I don't eat a lot |
| 23:56.16 | tcccp | ~89kg here |
| 23:56.33 | marajin | and I'm english |
| 23:56.33 | marajin | so |
| 23:56.41 | marajin | expensive cost of living |
| 23:56.41 | tcccp | I'm german |
| 23:56.41 | marajin | heh |
| 23:56.49 | tcccp | high inflation here ;) |
| 23:56.56 | tcccp | And no one shoots a single poitician |
| 23:56.58 | marajin | you do realise that beer in a bar here is about 3 euros per pint |
| 23:57.14 | tcccp | If I'd know what a pint is |
| 23:57.16 | marajin | That's about 3 euros per half litre |
| 23:57.18 | tcccp | ah |
| 23:57.28 | tcccp | That's a common price, even in .de |
| 23:57.33 | dcordes | yea |
| 23:57.53 | marajin | I dunno really but I'm sure that general cost of living is higher here, it's mentioned often |
| 23:57.57 | tcccp | I tend to drink at home. 15 EUR for 8L of my favourite beer |
| 23:58.14 | marajin | hmm |
| 23:58.19 | dcordes | hansa? |
| 23:58.31 | tcccp | Original 81 |
| 23:58.56 | marajin | It's roughly 20 euro/ 6L of mine here :P |
| 23:59.01 | dcordes | tcccp: never heard about that |
| 23:59.46 | marajin | 18 Euro/ 5.3 Litres apparently to be precise on it |
| 23:59.48 | tcccp | dcordes: It's quite commen where Harleys, Tattoos and stuff is to be seen ;) |
