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00:00.00tmztanyway, dcordes, the strace suggests this is looking for hal and dbus
00:00.10tmztcan you paste that script for X from /etc/init.d
00:01.40dcordes_http://rafb.net/p/wcr46B35.html
00:02.44tmztare you booted?
00:02.49dcordes_no
00:02.57dcordes_mounted atm
00:03.23dcordes_I did some changes to /etc/X11/Xserver in the current image
00:03.28tmztalright, I am going to look into the metadata and see if input hotplug is enabled or default)
00:04.14dcordes_tmzt: http://rafb.net/p/wubR3E58.html /etc/X11/Xserver
00:04.25dcordes_(original one)
00:09.06dcordes_brb need reboot
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00:26.19wasuphey 2 quick questions...
00:27.23wasupstorage card must be fat32. right?
00:27.55wasupand is it possible to format the storage card on my windows mobile device
00:30.18marajincr2: Sorry, got called away, damn life interfering with geeky goodness
00:30.44marajincr2: Um yeah I might be up for playing wth the hermes at some point, my hermes i fully functional and it seems a waste for it to sit doing nothing at all
00:31.29marajinwasup: Um, for what precisely? and yes
00:32.19wasuptitan.
00:32.47marajinCould be fat16 or 32 really. depends on the card size
00:33.44wasupbut it is possible to format it from my device... i have no access to a windows computer.. so i was just going to copy the zip file over buy a new microsd card
00:33.53wasupand do it all on my device
00:34.33marajina new card would be preformated
00:34.40wasupto fat32?
00:34.45marajindepends on the card
00:34.56wasupsandisk
00:35.03marajinnah I mean the card capacity
00:35.13wasupoh... um.. 2gb
00:35.16marajin2G or less might be fat16, but either way they'll work
00:35.54wasupdo u know is dzo's zip he put up on his site sdhc compatible?
00:36.19marajinthe latest zIMage should be but a 2GB card won't be SDHC
00:37.02wasupwell like i said i dont have access to a win computer.. so i would buy a 4 gbsdhc as long as i can still do everything from my phone.
00:37.48marajinI can't promise it. I know we have SDHC on the kaiser and I heard it said the vogue hasit working too
00:38.08wasupok...so i should just stick with the 2gb
00:38.47marajinyou can try an SDHC but at your own risk, I'm not an expert on what'll work with the Titan
00:39.11wasupnah..ill just go 2gb for now
00:39.21wasupbut fat16 should be fine?
00:39.23marajindcordes: D'ya know if SDHC'll work on the titan?
00:39.29marajinwasup: On a 2GB card yes
00:39.56wasupok..and its preformatted... i freaking need a windows computer.. the one negative about mac
00:40.19marajina mac can format to fat
00:40.40wasupi have no card reader...
00:40.56marajinWell, no worries
00:41.39wasupyeah... if all else fails i can just do it at my work.. but that means i have to wait till tomorrow...haha
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00:42.25wasupoh and do you know... does the sprint stock rom run android ok?
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00:42.47wasupit seems pretty stable... plus boots up with over 50 percent free
00:43.03dcordesmarajin: no clue, try?
00:43.17marajindcordes: heh, it's wasup that's asking basically
00:43.35dcordeshe should just try then
00:43.45wasuphahaha
00:43.51marajindcordes: Well he's about to buy a card, so it's...
00:43.56wasupi would.. but i dont wanna be out 80 something dollars
00:44.02marajinwasup: O.o
00:44.15dcordesI bought one 8gb with tiny usb reader for 30 eur
00:44.17marajinwasup: a 4GB SDHC is er.. 30 bucks or les
00:44.32marajinwasup: I bought mine for 28 USD
00:45.57wasupreally?
00:46.01wasupwhat store?
00:47.20marajinUm, a UK store but basically that's what the base price of an SDHC 4GB card is
00:49.29wasupoh i found one at circuit city for 39
00:49.39wasupbut idk... if it doesnt work im gonna be sad..
00:49.46wasupi need ANDROID
00:49.52wasup:)
00:49.59marajinhah
00:50.08marajinwasup: It's not /useable/ really yet though.
00:50.22wasupi know... but just the fact that it boots...
00:50.33wasupi tried for soooo long before it was booting.
00:50.51wasupthen the day it boots.. my freakin phone gets jacked
00:51.00wasupwith my sd card
00:51.23marajin>.<
00:51.29marajinyou were insured tho' huh?
00:52.00wasupyeah
00:52.05wasupi already got my new phone
00:52.10marajingoodo
00:52.12wasupthats why im asking about the sd
00:54.50wasupwell later everyone... take it easy.. talk to you all tomorrow
01:11.36dcordessomebody seen eBug lately? I'm interested in sedna research
01:11.52marajinNot since the last time you were talking to him
01:11.56gingeso does anyone know why egpio cpld would break in 2.6.25?
01:12.22dcordesginge: does htc-egpio.c build fail for you?
01:12.27gingeno
01:13.10dcordesI would look into htc-egpio code then, I'd believe something has changed in .25 htc-egpio depends on
01:13.31gingeare there any kaiser specific patches to this?
01:14.39dcordeshmmm when babel0 guided me adding egpio to the tree, I think we made some minor modifications
01:15.08dcordesbut not so sure on this
01:15.37gingecan you gitdiff against google msm tree?
01:15.45dcordeswhat's definetly kaiser-specific about egpio is the gpio definitions in the board.h
01:16.13gingethat wont change between kernels though
01:16.20dcordesginge: how did yoou do it? Just fetched google?
01:16.38gingethen checked out a specific tag
01:17.04gingethen tried git merge with linuxtogo. when that failed I just patched the few things that needed patching
01:17.04dcordeswhich? android?
01:17.16gingeI checked out android, yes
01:17.28gingeand then patched in kaiser code
01:18.13dcordesok. could you run a git-diff origin/android in the new tree?
01:20.09dcordesoh by the way, our tree is derived from android-msm, not android
01:20.15dcordesdon't know if they are any different
01:20.56dcordesand a thought on egpio: We use an outdated version. drivers/mfd/htc-egpio is in vanilla and that version is the most recent
01:21.45joshts0ginge: any progress? ;)
01:22.42dcordesmaybe with the mainline egpio it will just work
01:22.47gingejoshts0: sorry no, I got carried away with fixing the kaiser keyboard :)
01:22.52gingedcordes: this is mainline
01:23.16dcordesegpio in our tree?
01:23.25gingein android tree
01:23.37dcordesoh I wasn't aware they put it in
01:23.57dcordesprobably fall back to the htc-msm version then and see if it works
01:24.06gingewait a minute...
01:25.26ginged'oh!
01:25.28dcordesI see no htc-egpio in google's drivers/mfd/
01:25.34dcordeswhat is it?
01:25.36gingewell done :)
01:25.47gingeI was diffing the wrong f'ing tree
01:25.57dcordesk
01:25.58gingethere is no egpio :/
01:26.04dcordesso
01:26.14gingeso yeah, take kaiser one
01:26.18dcordesah you didn't use one at all and that's why it gave you no cpld?
01:26.23gingeits not mainline until 2.6.26?
01:26.26gingeexactly
01:27.06dcordesok. so let's take htc-msm for now
01:27.21dcordessee if it works if you give me your diff I will try and make mainline egpio work
01:28.39gingewhich is mainline version then?
01:29.45dcordeswait a minute
01:30.06gingedo we need asic3?
01:31.25dcordeshttp://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/26/drivers/mfd/htc-egpio.c
01:34.12dcordesasic3? we don't have that in msm, do we?
01:34.47gingeno, guess not
01:34.55dcordesbtw I recall you saying .25 is faster. Does it boot faster?
01:35.10gingeI am getting dependancy errors on gpiolib now :/
01:35.23dcordeswith htc-msm oder mainline egpio?
01:35.34gingehtc-msm
01:35.56dcordesgpiolib *_*
01:38.01dcordesarrrgh that Xfbdev is driving me crazy. I think I will wirte to the tslib mailing list
01:38.27dcordesor better create an OE bug. it's OE userland
01:38.46dcordesand since kaiser is in OE it should work
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01:55.14marajinwb ginge
01:55.55tcccpoh, there's life in here?
01:56.20gingebarely
01:56.29marajintcccp: Yes, but NOT as we know it
01:57.03tcccpmarajin: not as we know it? If it's pervert, sign me up!
01:57.30marajinDamnit tcccp I'm a geek not a salesman!
01:58.12tcccp'arrr ;)
01:58.31marajinThere's kernel oops off the starboard bow!
01:59.26gingedcordes: bravo. working :)
01:59.56gingewow that was irritating
01:59.58dcordesginge: what was wrong? how did you get around the gpiolib error?
02:00.28gingedcordes: the gpiolib was caused by generic_gpio.o not being linked
02:00.41gingethe gpiolib thing was a red herring
02:01.31gingeokay, now to fixup the sd
02:04.03dcordesok
02:04.19ginge3am :(
02:04.24dcordesnow reset button works again? :)
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02:04.40dcordesginge: 4 :p
02:04.45gingecrazy
02:11.44gingeone last build then i'm off to sleep ;)
02:12.04gingethis is the one, though
02:13.45gingehmm
02:13.50gingeokay, maybe one last ne
02:14.57dcordesyou know you want it!!
02:15.55gingeokay, seems to work. gonna try android
02:18.47dcordeswhich image?
02:20.54gingea special ginger one
02:21.16dcordescan you boot the ginger image from loopfile?
02:21.31gingedunno. just use dzos for now
02:21.43gingein true ginger style mine doesnt work properly
02:22.50gingedamn failed to set clock. well. good night
02:24.52dcordesin android but not angstrom?
02:24.54dcordesgood night
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04:53.07marajindcordes: D'ya think it's appropriate to call an android image the "ginger" version? :P
04:54.57marajinginge: And you should know better, if it had true ginger style it'd get drunk and start a bar brawl ;)
04:55.19marajinginge: ...Hey can we make the kaiser do that? That'd be an awesome phone ;
04:56.11marajinginge: "What's your ringtone?" "Oh when I get a call my phone necks 5 pints and then batters the bouncer... you should see it get a MMS though..."
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05:50.15beastie_anyone have any info on getting openmoko running on the blue angel?
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06:22.51marbalondcordes: ping
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06:54.04AstainHellbringhey guys
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07:24.17gingemarajin: thats quite possibly one of the funniest things I have heard in a long while!
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07:49.43marajinginge: Man I hope that's sarcasm :P
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07:54.50meredyddginge: In the nicest way possible...do you ever sleep, man?
07:55.09marajinmeredydd: He does but if it's for more than 15 minutes we get out the taze
07:55.11marajin+r
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08:05.17marajinginge_: Wb there
08:05.27ginge_morning!
08:05.45marajinginge_: I said, but I assume you missed, "Man I hope that's sarcasm :P"
08:07.15ginge_meredydd: sleep is for the wea...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
08:07.50meredydd"...zzzzzzZZZZAP* *  ...where was I?"
08:07.58ginge_lol
08:08.52marajinwe installed the caffeine drip but he still dozes off sometimes
08:09.05marajinany ideas?
08:09.23ginge_marajin: thr thought of my ringtone downing 5 pints and battering the bouncer still has me chuckling :)
08:09.41marajinginge_: You really thought that was funny?
08:09.47ginge_yeah
08:10.01marajinginge_: Man you got a weird sense of humour in the mornings, I was sure you were being sarcastic :P
08:10.23ginge_just warped
08:10.38marajinAh well that I can forgive ;)
08:11.10marajincarefully glues a small ginger wig to the top of his Kaiser.
08:12.26ginge_"just call me emperor mc jimmy"
08:12.44marajinhah
08:13.28marajinMy kaiser has been GLaDOSified for a while, it'd be good to shake things up a bit
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08:16.20ginge_The cake is a lie!
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08:17.59marajinginge_: Heh, it mostly goes "Hello and welcome to the enrichment center!.... Hey, hey... what're you doing? Put me down! Hey hey hey! AIIIEEEE... "
08:18.49marajinand believe me that gets some funny looks :P
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08:20.04ginge_I spent about 9 hours watching my mate play that game. It is awesome.
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08:20.29marajinMan it' the best thing valve ever did
08:20.37marajinscrew HL, I just bought the orange box for portal
08:20.56marajinGlaDOS cracks me up
08:21.32ginge_yeah
08:21.41ginge_that must have been fun making up stuff forthat game
08:21.53marajinAnd seriously, who doesn't end up at some point suddenly going "....This was a triumph!..... I'm writing a note here.. HUGE SUCCESS!"
08:22.27marajinMan you should play with the commentary enabled. It makes you feel much less intelligent.
08:23.07marajinYOu think "ah cool, I found a nifty trick the devs missed" and then the commentary is like "yeah we knew you could cheat here but we just decided to let players do it anyway to reward them for thinking outside the box"
08:23.59marajinOr the fact that the game would acknowledge you've gone and got yourself stuck somewhere stupid and has an inbuilt set of trapdoors and whatnot to put you back where you're meant to be.
08:27.05ginge_can you play these steamy games in non Pindows?
08:27.14marajinsometimes?
08:27.30ginge_portal for example
08:27.59marajinthey claim so yes
08:28.14marajinclaim wine'll do it
08:28.16marajinhttp://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/15/how-to-run-team-fortress-2-half-life-2-hl2-ep-12-in-ubuntu-using-wine/
08:29.37meredyddOkay, could I get clarification from Them Wot Knows - am I correct in thinking that the Elf, although looking aesthetically similar to the Vogue on the outside, does *not* have the Vogue's level of support?
08:29.38ginge_interesting.
08:30.45BabelO_kiozen: HELP !
08:31.02marajinmeredydd: Isn't the elf a bit of an older device?
08:31.07kiozenhides
08:31.13marajin... ok so it's a year old
08:31.14marajinhmm
08:31.17meredyddyeah - Wikipedia says the Vogue's newer and flashier.
08:31.36meredyddAnd I'd got the impression from the forums that it was the (CDMA) Vogue, and the Vogue only.
08:31.40marajinyeah man but 9-12 months is the average cycle between releases with HTC
08:32.03marajinI mean I'd barely got my hermes when the kaiser came outand now we've got the diamond/raphael
08:32.28kiozenBabelO_: "we really appreciate your call. currenly all member of our support staff are busy. please hold the line ...."
08:32.38kiozenBabelO_: what's up?
08:32.41BabelO_lol
08:32.54marajinmeredydd: Anyway yeah the vogue is much beefier than the elf
08:33.12BabelO_kiozen: GT with my latest gpx track, when i load a geodata, with two in same directory, it load both
08:33.26BabelO_kiozen: other thing, i cant see the curve.... on linux i can ...
08:33.32marajinmeredydd: 200mhz Omap + 64MiB RAM vs 400Mhz MSM7500 + 128MiB RAM
08:33.53kiozenBabelO_: errrr, what?
08:34.43BabelO_when i click on track / view statistic
08:34.53BabelO_kiozen: a loop event occur...
08:37.15kiozenBabelO_: first left click than right click?
08:45.32BabelO_kiozen: first left click on togle graphic icon
08:46.00kiozenBabelO_: hm,it's working on my windows version
08:46.06BabelO_:(
08:46.37kiozenBabelO_: try the one from sf.net
08:46.47BabelO_kiozen: ok
08:49.30BabelO_kiozen: yep, the nice installer :)
09:07.34Rroetmoin all
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09:22.56BabelO_kiozen: ok, it was my windaube computer, 3 weeks withut reboot...
09:23.08kiozenlol
09:23.26kiozenyou shouldn't do
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10:08.35Foxdieheya goxboxlive
10:19.11goxboxlivehi Foxdie
10:19.30Foxdielong time no speak, how goes?
10:19.43goxboxlivei'm fine, how about ou?
10:19.46goxboxliveyou
10:20.02FoxdieI'm good, just been busy trying to arrange moving home :)
10:20.20Foxdiehaven't been following universal linux lately, is there any new developments in the last couple of months? :)
10:21.01goxboxliveFoxdie: i havent either. I am not that active anymore
10:21.33goxboxliveUniversal i havent booted for several months now, i tried out MioA701 for a week ago, but it's not full support on that either.
10:21.45goxboxliveActually, i have a iPhone 3G now :-)
10:21.48Foxdieoh god
10:21.53Foxdieyou traitor ;) ;)
10:22.26BabelO_kiozen: what is the DEM red line ? i ve wrong altitude display because of that
10:22.26Foxdieso linux development for universal is dead?
10:22.28goxboxlive:-)
10:22.39marajinbah iPhone...
10:22.41goxboxliveAnyway, i have to go now.
10:22.53Foxdie(I secretly want a iPhone3G but I don't want to go onto o2, bad tariff)
10:22.57Foxdieoh, take care dude
10:23.08marajinwhat's wrong with the o2 Tariffs?
10:23.15Foxdiethey're crap? ;)
10:23.19marajinOh, wait, yeah, the iPhone specific tariff shafts you :P
10:23.24FoxdieExactly
10:23.37marajinNote: "iPhone Specific"
10:23.51FoxdieI quite like my t-mobile contract, £12 a month gets me unlimited internet usage on my Universal :)
10:24.16FoxdieI use it to listen to online radio stations while driving to work :)
10:24.29Foxdiebut I'd much prefer linux on it
10:24.29marajinsame contract with like.. a kaiser... you get like 1500 minutes/500 texts/unlimited data
10:24.38Foxdiesadly I think development has stopped
10:24.52Foxdiecr2 and everyone are probably more interested in newer devices
10:25.11marajinFoxdie: Yeah it's all about Kaiser/Vogue/Titan at the moment
10:25.33Foxdieits a shame, not everyone can afford a new device
10:25.40Foxdiethe problem is continuity
10:25.46marajinNo neither can I really but I got one anyway
10:25.49Foxdiepeople move onto new phone before finishing development on old phone
10:25.50marajinfoolish geek.
10:26.02Foxdiewe all are in a way marajin ;)
10:26.03marajinAh well that's cause the sumbitches release a new one like every 9months
10:26.58marajinI barely got the hermes when the kaiser came out and now I got a kaiser the diamond is out and the raphael's out soon
10:28.11marajinbut the iPhone, naw I never got the appeal
10:28.22marajinIt's just an overpriced fashion accessory
10:28.36marajinthat's so behind on going 3G it's unreal
10:29.38marajinI mean, I'm sure it's technically nifty, but it doesn't semm particularily practical to me
10:30.00Foxdiewhen you've got a universal practicality isn't such a major worry
10:30.08marajinheh
10:30.13Foxdie(because universal is so big and bulky, especially with long life battery pack)
10:30.27Foxdiewhich I need just to get it through the day
10:30.31marajinoh screw big and bulky man. I'm big and bulky, it's a perfect match
10:33.52marajinthough the battery life would get irritating
10:35.07marajinFoxdie: You use a lot of talktime on your universal?
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10:53.31Foxdienope, very little actually
10:53.40FoxdieI have a HTC artemis for voice calls and gps gracking
10:53.44Foxdie*tracking
10:54.03FoxdieI use my universal for listening to shoutcast radio stations and megadrive / genesis emulator
10:55.00kiozenBabelO_: if you have DEM data loaded it will show the elevation from DEM as red line
10:56.46Foxdiekiozen, you discussing iGO 8? DEM sounds familiar
10:57.18kiozenFoxdie: Digital Elevation Data
10:57.29FoxdieYep, but for sat nav software?
10:57.36Foxdiein particular, iGO 8?
10:57.53kiozenFoxdie: ok, no just my own QLandkarte stuff
11:05.51Foxdieahh :)
11:46.29BabelO_kiozen: ah... so not good for me
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12:11.03kiozenBabelO_: lol error in the DEM data. or wait ... is that peak close to the sea?
12:12.26kiozenBabelO_: and isn't the speed limit 120 km/h in france?
12:16.03kiozenBabelO_:I need that DEM file
12:22.29BabelO_kiozen: you have already it :) Z_37 or 34 don't remember
12:22.42BabelO_kiozen: it was 90km/h speed limit
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12:23.17kiozenBabelO_: think there must be an error in my speed calculation
12:23.19BabelO_kiozen: and i 'm at 14 km of the sea :)
12:23.35BabelO_kiozen: why  ?
12:23.55kiozenBabelO_: because it show a speed of 120 km/h ;)
12:24.51kiozenBabelO_: DEM uses a no data value for areas failed to be measured
12:25.08kiozenBabelO_: e.g. water bodies
12:26.41BabelO_kiozen: but the speed is ok :) it is 120km/h that's not a bug
12:26.57BabelO_kiozen: if wife don't see it , i ve no problem :)
12:27.15kiozenBabelO_: yes. it was a joke :)
12:27.29kiozenBabelO_: the DEM file should have a "no data" value defined
12:27.31BabelO_kiozen: ah ok, but maybe rounding should be ok for speed
12:28.20kiozenBabelO_: The Z_37_4.tif I have got does not define such a value.
12:31.53BabelO_kiozen: it is the mercator version?
12:32.09kiozenBabelO_: yes
12:32.34BabelO_kiozen: ok mine is 19Mb :(
12:35.10kiozenBabelO_: send me the track
12:35.22BabelO_kiozen: ok
12:39.06kiozenBabelO_: hm graphs are ok for me. I upload my DEM file...
12:39.48BabelO_kiozen: ok thanks,still don't understand why
12:40.54kiozenBabelO_: water absorbes the satelite signal, thus raw SRTM data has "no data" at these locations
12:41.28kiozenBabelO_: there are SRTM files that replace these no data values by sensible ones.
12:41.57BabelO_kiozen: ah ok, maybe depend where i download it
12:46.26kiozenBabelO_: http://www.qlandkarte.org/Z_37_4.tif
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12:49.35kiozenfunny track, I like that part from 5.8 to 6.9 km
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14:59.28BabelO_kiozen : ok i found how to reproduce the buggy DEM file loop even with your compile and your DEM :)
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15:04.12kiozenBabelO_: how?
15:05.16BabelO_kiozen:  :)
15:05.28BabelO_kiozen: why part 5.8 to 6.9 is funny ?
15:05.37BabelO_kiozen: when you show the curve on top
15:06.13kiozen?? on top
15:06.15BabelO_kiozen: just click on the curve around the hand and continue to click each 1cm going to the left
15:06.21BabelO_kiozen: you will see the bug
15:06.39BabelO_kiozen: yes curve where is DEM and gps measure
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15:08.00kiozenBabelO_: can you send the track to gmx.de, can't reach my office pc
15:08.12BabelO_kiozen: ok
15:09.20BabelO_kiozen: mail sent
15:09.38BabelO_and when loop occur you will see the red line pick
15:13.46kiozenBabelO_: hm, I am clicking like a beserk but nothing happens.
15:14.10kiozenmaybe a win32 bug
15:14.21BabelO_kiozen: ok, i ll try at home then :(
15:14.39BabelO_what is a beserk  ?
15:16.03kiozensome kind of brutal warrior, no brain big muscles
15:16.22kiozenonce triggered you can't stop him :)
15:16.52kiozenlike Steve Ballmer
15:17.23ginge_lol
15:18.03kiozenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc
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15:26.48BabelO_kiozen: lol, he is on windows 1.0 video too :)
15:27.46rakeemkiozen - Nice.  How's he getting on "ending"Google anyway?  All - Anyone know if there's been any work done on a more stable acx100 driver for the Uni?
15:28.03rakeemHey BabelO...!  Long time!
15:28.17rakeemYou still on the BA?
15:28.43BabelO_rakeem: not really, more on artemis, but have to fix the keyboard on ba when found time to do it
15:29.58rakeemHa!  You and Kevin2 have been promising us that for ages...!  The anticipation....!  ;-)
15:30.35rakeemWhat's the Artemis again?  Got a link?
15:31.01BabelO_rakeem: pH5 try to run BA / magician / hx4700 on 2.6.26
15:32.30BabelO_rakeem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393973
15:32.50rakeemHmmm...   Do you know if they've moved the acx driver across to the new 802 softmac thingammybob?  If so does it apply on the Uni?
15:35.43rakeemDamn!  Qtopia's running!  Last time I checked, the only devices really doing anything were the Uni and BA.  Anyone care to fill me in on what others I've missed out on lately?  Has the Uni been supplanted as the device of choice?
15:38.58cr2rakeem: no. it'll become pxa_camera soon, so the hw support will be complete.
15:39.12cr2BabelO-
15:39.26cr2BabelO_: is the arte qtopia == ba qtopia ?
15:43.17BabelO_cr2: yes, only plugin changed
15:44.05BabelO_rakeem: but no power management on arte at the moment and no wifi
15:44.08BabelO_nogsm too
15:46.22BabelO_cr2: i use eactly same OE image and update the scripts to fit both device
15:46.33cr2BabelO_: is the plugin dynamic ? i.e. will it autodetect the machine ?
15:46.53cr2having more than one qtopia image is pita ;)
15:48.21kiozencr2: afaik no
15:50.41BabelO_cr2: for phone yes, they use AT+CGMI if i remember which return the modem string so they load the right plugin
15:51.18BabelO_cr2: for keyboard, it is possible too , me,  i use a cat /proc/cpuinfo from bash to set correct environment variable
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15:53.46kiozenBabelO_: but you do it all in one plugin right?
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15:55.35BabelO_kiozen: no you do one plugin per phone modem, if qtopia detect multiple plugin in directory, it load each one and send the CGMI result to entry point of plugin
15:55.56kiozenok, good to know
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15:56.25BabelO_kiozen: for keyboard, yes, one plugin for all else the kerneltty plugin can work on all device if you are able to parameter all your key for a console
15:57.44dcordesmorning
15:59.39cr2BabelO_: and CGMI is what ? "HTC" ?
15:59.49cr2dcordes: hehe.
16:01.00BabelO_cr2: generic AT GSM7.07 command AT+CGMI or AT+GMI, don't remember :) have to look at the code
16:01.57BabelO_cr2: don't remember the result, but in your plugin you can ask another AT+CGMM for example to get the device itself if modem return HTC
16:04.49kiozencr2: hardly dare to ask: battery monitor?
16:05.02kiozencr2: anything I can try?
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16:15.22cr2kiozen: i still don't understand the 15bit, so looking for the ssp setup setting.
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16:40.39BabelO_cr2: look at your pm if you have interest in this :)
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16:43.42gingedcordes: just seen some new audio init code in dzo's new diff
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16:50.36rakeemHey cr2, nice to see you...  The connoisseur  of microprocessors...
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16:58.15dcordesginge: for phone use?
16:58.33rakeemcr2:  Know if there's been any changes to the Uni's acx driver?  As you're probably aware, it's always required quite a bit of love...
16:58.35gingedcordes: looks that way. controllers for setting the headset outputs etc
16:58.43dcordesneat!!
16:58.43pH5good evening
16:58.48dcordeshi pH5
16:58.53rakeemHey ph5!  Long time!
16:59.07dcordesginge: proc_comm?
16:59.30gingedcordes: no, a massive array of vogue specific values that we need to work out for ourselves :/
16:59.41rakeemAnd dcordes!  Ain't seen you since I was on the BA...
17:00.18pH5rakeem: you're looking at the acx driver?
17:01.04dcordesrakeem: how are things?
17:01.04pH5I've just yesterday poked acx100 ML about the patch in hh.org cvs.
17:03.55dcordesginge: arch/arm/mach-msm/AudioPara.c
17:04.08gingedcordes: and also look in vogue_hw.c
17:04.15dcordesginge: that's heavy looks worse than sd clock registers
17:04.31dcordesomg
17:04.35gingedcordes: makes the sd registers look like childsplay. we need to do some serious tracing
17:04.48AstainHellbringpretty nasty huh?
17:05.21dcordesAstainHellbring: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/diffs search for AudioPara.c
17:05.44dcordesginge: did you try tuning the display backlight back on?
17:05.52AstainHellbringdamn
17:05.57gingedcordes: yes, it needs work
17:09.16dcordesginge: any clue what that is? PHONE_TTY_FUL
17:09.44gingedcordes: not looked at any of it as yet, so no
17:10.50dcordesI didn't expect 'extusb' to be so massive
17:10.53gingeat a guess it is the tty for the phone ;)
17:11.29cr2ginge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762
17:11.36cr2rakeem: hi
17:11.45dcordesmaybe that's why usb wasn't working so far, probably the wrong mode is set initially
17:11.55cr2pH5: did you get any response ?
17:12.01gingecr2: thanks :)
17:13.06gingedcordes: where is that?
17:13.17cr2pH5: the older devices are not in the list: http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/wiki/SupportedDevices
17:13.21rakeempH5:  ML=mailing_list?  Does that mean you're calling in acx driver specialists to help us out?
17:13.30pH5cr2: yes, david planella updated bill reese's age old bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1499485&group_id=75380&atid=543747
17:14.21dcordesginge: what?
17:14.37gingedcordes: extusb?
17:14.57dcordesthat's how htc calls the usb jacks
17:15.25gingedcordes: is thaat soemthing to doo with dzo's patch?
17:15.45AstainHellbringextusb is usb on one side and other shit on the other side
17:15.56cr2dcordes: it's not only usb. it has some more weird pins.
17:16.19gingeis confused
17:16.28dcordesginge: it seems to me like it sets the mode for what the jack does: either usb host/client, audio, etc..?
17:16.36cr2dcordes: some of them are spi (H2W in kaiser wince dlls)
17:16.46dcordesand my thought was, usb probably won't work until we set the usb mode
17:16.48gingedcordes: I have seen some... what cr2 said
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17:17.33dcordescr2: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/diffs arch/arm/mach-msm/AudioPara.c
17:17.39dcordesis that related to that spi stuff?
17:18.32rakeemAnyone:  I have four different batteries for my Uni.  Each one seems to imbue the device with a different level of stability, depending on the level of charge.  With one or two I'm lucky if I can even boot CE without "GSM radio has crashed.  Device would reboot in 30 seconds".  Am I mad or does this make sense?
17:18.42cr2pH5: looks good. now we need the "generic" CF and SDIO parts added there.
17:19.16pH5actually, I need the base acx100 driver to build on 2.6.26 before I can test anything :/
17:19.24cr2hehe.
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19:45.35wasupmmm... looking at android on the titan
19:45.40wasupits a beautiful site
19:45.43wasupsight*
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19:58.37BabelOgoxboxlive: :) how iphone gps is working ? is it working well ? even in the car
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20:00.55goxboxliveBabelO: i havent tried it actually
20:01.29BabelOgoxboxlive: can you tell me when you have time :) friend want to buy one, but he read bad article about it
20:01.31drasarHi. Is usb ethernet gadget working for anybody on 2.6.21-hh20?
20:01.33goxboxliveBut it works inddow like my mio so i guess it's as good as usual ones. But i think google maps suckt compared to tomtom and such
20:01.43BabelOdrasar: yes working well
20:02.06goxboxlives/inddow/indoors/
20:02.14drasarBabelO: What device do you have?
20:02.47BabelOdrasar: nokia n800, greephone, htc blueangel, htc artemis, it works on all
20:02.54goxboxliveBabelO: but it is an outstanding phone, I really like the software iTunes (on phone) appstore and you tube
20:03.03goxboxliveyou tube is realy good
20:03.24drasarBabelO: ...but on my Himalaya it doesn't work :(
20:03.39marajinwasup: do you need the tissues?
20:05.02drasarBabelO: I can see usb0 only on himalaya, not on PC
20:05.44BabelOdrasar: so it is loaded and up
20:05.52BabelOmaybe just usben is wrong
20:06.02BabelOdrasar: do you have usbnet loaded on pc side ?
20:06.23BabelOdrasar: and a dmesg output when you plug himalaya in, you can see usb event ?
20:06.29drasarBabelO: Yes, all modules that are needed are loaded on both sides
20:07.05BabelOdrasar: but dmesg on computer ?
20:07.11wasuphaha
20:07.25drasarBabelO: On computer is nothing in dmesg...
20:07.31wasupso i guess someone got a semi working keyboard for the titan
20:08.25BabelOdrasar: so maybe usben pin is not set
20:08.51drasarBabelO: If I use 2.6.12 xanadux kernel, it goes fine -- on PC is printed message that new usb0 device is created
20:09.38BabelOdrasar: ok, so it is the usb en declaration in your main board file in hh kernel, look at ba and compare
20:14.08drasarBabelO: Could you describe it in more detail please? Where can I find this declaration? :)
20:15.06BabelOdrasar: arch/arm/mach-pxa/himalaya/hymalaya.c and you should fit to mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel.c
20:15.12BabelOonly the usb part
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20:32.24drasarBabelO: Ok, but I don't know what I should to find in these files. I am newbie in this world ;)
20:34.51drasarBabelO: What do you mean with "only the usb part"? In himalaya.c I can find nothing about usb.
20:38.56BabelOdrasar: sorry it is htchimalya/himalaya_udc.c
20:40.35BabelOdrasar: do you select it in make menuconfig ?
20:44.15drasarBabelO: Yes. When I connect/disconnect himalaya to/from PC, I can see on Himalaya "udc_is_connected ...", but nothing on PC
20:45.53BabelOdrasar: ok
20:48.32cr2drasar: do you see "_udc_control: connect" ?
20:49.21cr2i see some discrepancy between the wiki and htchimalaya-asic.h, but i'll trust the header file more.
20:50.39drasarBabelO: Yes
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20:51.20BabelOcr2: but there is a difference with BA which use pxa2xx_udc_gpio_info
20:53.00drasarBabelO: The only difference that I observe between xanadux 2.6.12 and 2.6.21-hh20 is that on the second one I can't see "usb0: full speed config #1: 100 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet Subset"
20:54.40cr2drasar: did you compile the gadget into the kernel ?
20:57.03drasarcr2: Yes, in originall config is everything compiled into kernel, but it doesn't work as well
20:57.46goxboxliveBabelO: did you get my answers?
20:58.07cr2drasar:  do you see "_udc_control: connect"  on the usb cable connect ?
20:58.10BabelOgoxboxlive: yes indoors it works fine :)
20:58.15goxboxlivegood
20:58.33cr2goxboxlive: you sold your soul to the devil :)
20:58.55BabelOcr2: yes, he like iTunes :(
20:59.32drasarcr2: But in 2.6.12 when I compile everything into kernel, it doesn't work. When I compile gadget and udc as modules, it works.
20:59.58cr2drasar: 2.6.12 is very special. and 3 years old. forget about it.
21:00.26drasarcr2: ok
21:00.55drasarcr2: Yes, I can see "_udc_control: connect"
21:02.03cr2ok, so the puen gpio should be applied.
21:02.30cr2since you boot off SD, the asic3 should be ok too.
21:12.01drasarcr2 & BabelO: But I can see message: "udevd-event[926]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/net/usb0/device/driver' failed". And then "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): usb0: link is not ready". Isn't there any connection?
21:13.44BabelOdrasar: did you boot your hima when connected to computer ?
21:14.34drasarBabeloO: yes
21:14.46BabelOon htc artemis i ve same kind of error when i forgot to remove the vbus sense in udc file
21:14.50BabelOdrasar: ok
21:15.25BabelOdrasar: can you cat /sys/class/net/usb0/*
21:19.37goxboxlivecr2: no way. I mean it's better to buy an iPhoen than buy a M$ phone, they are even worse :-) . Even though, i have allready hacked it (jailbeaking), and are able to ssh in to it :-)
21:20.36cr2goxboxlive: but you can't install linux. so no fun :)
21:21.33drasarBabelO: I can try it. But without ssh connection I must boot, redirect output to a file and then read that file from SD card :)
21:27.22goxboxlivecr2: no i cant do it yet, but something is on it's way: http://www.iphonelinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
21:28.04goxboxlivehi mickeyl ,so you have gotten back to #htc-linux now?
21:28.22goxboxlivehave you bought a new htc phone?
21:29.40cr2goxboxlive: what do you think about diamond ?
21:30.29goxboxlivecr2: it seems really good, i was wondering buying it instead of the iPhone, but i thought it had too small display and i am a little tired of wince
21:31.03mickeylgoxboxlive: not yet. I'm keeping a close eye on Kaiser and its successor
21:31.07goxboxlivecr2: and i also heard someone talked about the speed on it that it where a little slow after using it for a while
21:31.15mickeylbut my work on a mobile phone framework is soon reaching critical mass
21:31.16goxboxlivemickeyl: what about the ficphone?
21:31.32cr2goxboxlive: small ?
21:31.37goxboxlive2,8"
21:31.37mickeylwhat about it? it works and is the only free one, but there's better hardware out there...
21:32.02cr2goxboxlive: ok.
21:32.08drasarBabelO: Here it is: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/out.txt
21:32.14cr2vga on 2.8" is an overkill.
21:32.16goxboxlivemickeyl: are you still working for FIC and active in the development?
21:32.32goxboxlivecr2: yes i thought that my self
21:33.04goxboxlivecr2: thats one of the things i miss on the iPhone, it should have a VGA display.
21:33.23mickeylgoxboxlive: yes, my major client is still Openmoko and i'm getting paid to work on the middleware
21:34.10goxboxlivecr2: i guess, in a month or two you will have a ipHone 3G yourself and are on your way joining the iphone linux team :-) . And me making Qtopia work on it :-)
21:34.51goxboxlivemickeyl: i c. Are you using the Freerunner as your main phone now? Is it useable as a main phone, or is it still a little unstable like the NEO?
21:34.51cr2goxboxlive: making qtopia run on iphone is cool.
21:35.03goxboxlivecr2: i think that too.
21:35.14mickeylgoxboxlive: hardware is ok, software is still unstable. my own framework is ok though, it works fine
21:35.20cr2goxboxlive: but i think i'll buy diamond for some of my friends.
21:35.36goxboxlivehmm i have now jailbraked my iPhne,maybe i should check out the status of roadmap and see if they have it running yet
21:35.42goxboxlivemickeyl: i c
21:35.54cr2goxboxlive: i'd like to finish n560/athena(hermes)
21:36.30goxboxlivecr2: I thin your friends will be very happy :-)
21:36.33BabelOdrasar: looks of, but link is down, how are your sure ip adress is set and ifconfig up is done ?
21:36.50cr2goxboxlive: and then move to this beast http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225
21:36.52goxboxlivecr2: whats the status on the Athena? Do youhave the SD slot working yet?
21:37.06cr2goxboxlive: no. it's the same problem for hermes.
21:37.31cr2goxboxlive: i'm praying for pH5 to finish asic3-mmc for 2.6.26 first :)
21:37.53cr2goxboxlive: an athena has the same accelerometer as moko2
21:37.59goxboxlivei c
21:38.19goxboxlivei have never heard about the GoPal device. I dont think it is available in Norway
21:38.24cr2goxboxlive: and a normally working sirf3 gps, without an external antenna ;)
21:38.50goxboxlive:-*)
21:38.54goxboxlive:-)
21:38.57goxboxlivesorry
21:39.00cr2goxboxlive: the cpu is from sirf.
21:39.04goxboxliveok
21:39.18goxboxlivecr2: Are you still going to Oslo next week?
21:39.22cr2goxboxlive: and the second cpu (DSP) works on gps data processing
21:39.30cr2goxboxlive: are you there ?
21:39.42BabelOcr2: artemis is good to with sirf gps :)
21:39.46goxboxlivecr2: no, i am going to Spain on saturday
21:39.54cr2goxboxlive: i think the same can be done on oma850 too. instead of gsm :)
21:40.17cr2goxboxlive: next saturday ?
21:40.23cr22 aug ?
21:40.47drasarBabelO: Here is dmesg: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/dmesg.txt
21:40.56goxboxliveno, this saturday, i am back next (2. aug)
21:41.04cr2goxboxlive: the DSP for gps is the most cool engineering idea i know now. the gsm is not that fun.
21:41.18goxboxlivei c
21:41.26cr2goxboxlive: i'm talking about next saturday.
21:41.37cr2goxboxlive: what about next friday ? 1 aug
21:41.37goxboxliveok
21:41.44goxboxlivei still in spain
21:41.47cr2ok.
21:41.49goxboxlivei am back 2.
21:41.51goxboxliveaug
21:41.59cr2too late.
21:42.05goxboxliveand back to work the 4th aug
21:42.09goxboxlivei c
21:42.23goxboxliveare you goung to soumi again?
21:42.27cr2i have a ticket, and we want to meet with lamikr on the weekend
21:42.32cr2yes.
21:42.34goxboxlivei c
21:42.44cr2i'd the in Stockholm at 2 aug.
21:42.52cr2s/the /be /
21:42.58goxboxlivei c
21:43.27cr2so if you'd have been in Oslo on the 1 aug, we could have met.
21:44.31cr2i think hacking sirf DSP is more interesting than sirf3 itself.
21:44.32goxboxliveyes :-) i know. But i am far south.
21:44.41cr2ok.
21:45.18cr2P4225  uses sd-to-flash conversion chip to access the flash. bizarre.
21:51.30drasarBabelO: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/ifconfig.txt
21:53.41BabelOdrasar: this is ifconfig of device ?
21:55.43drasarBabelO: yes
21:56.31BabelOok
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23:54.50marajin_whoopsie
23:55.31dcordeshi marajin_
23:55.36marajin_hey dcordes
23:55.47marajin_sorry my DSL finally fubarred
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