00:00.00 | tmzt | anyway, dcordes, the strace suggests this is looking for hal and dbus |
00:00.10 | tmzt | can you paste that script for X from /etc/init.d |
00:01.40 | dcordes_ | http://rafb.net/p/wcr46B35.html |
00:02.44 | tmzt | are you booted? |
00:02.49 | dcordes_ | no |
00:02.57 | dcordes_ | mounted atm |
00:03.23 | dcordes_ | I did some changes to /etc/X11/Xserver in the current image |
00:03.28 | tmzt | alright, I am going to look into the metadata and see if input hotplug is enabled or default) |
00:04.14 | dcordes_ | tmzt: http://rafb.net/p/wubR3E58.html /etc/X11/Xserver |
00:04.25 | dcordes_ | (original one) |
00:09.06 | dcordes_ | brb need reboot |
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00:26.19 | wasup | hey 2 quick questions... |
00:27.23 | wasup | storage card must be fat32. right? |
00:27.55 | wasup | and is it possible to format the storage card on my windows mobile device |
00:30.18 | marajin | cr2: Sorry, got called away, damn life interfering with geeky goodness |
00:30.44 | marajin | cr2: Um yeah I might be up for playing wth the hermes at some point, my hermes i fully functional and it seems a waste for it to sit doing nothing at all |
00:31.29 | marajin | wasup: Um, for what precisely? and yes |
00:32.19 | wasup | titan. |
00:32.47 | marajin | Could be fat16 or 32 really. depends on the card size |
00:33.44 | wasup | but it is possible to format it from my device... i have no access to a windows computer.. so i was just going to copy the zip file over buy a new microsd card |
00:33.53 | wasup | and do it all on my device |
00:34.33 | marajin | a new card would be preformated |
00:34.40 | wasup | to fat32? |
00:34.45 | marajin | depends on the card |
00:34.56 | wasup | sandisk |
00:35.03 | marajin | nah I mean the card capacity |
00:35.13 | wasup | oh... um.. 2gb |
00:35.16 | marajin | 2G or less might be fat16, but either way they'll work |
00:35.54 | wasup | do u know is dzo's zip he put up on his site sdhc compatible? |
00:36.19 | marajin | the latest zIMage should be but a 2GB card won't be SDHC |
00:37.02 | wasup | well like i said i dont have access to a win computer.. so i would buy a 4 gbsdhc as long as i can still do everything from my phone. |
00:37.48 | marajin | I can't promise it. I know we have SDHC on the kaiser and I heard it said the vogue hasit working too |
00:38.08 | wasup | ok...so i should just stick with the 2gb |
00:38.47 | marajin | you can try an SDHC but at your own risk, I'm not an expert on what'll work with the Titan |
00:39.11 | wasup | nah..ill just go 2gb for now |
00:39.21 | wasup | but fat16 should be fine? |
00:39.23 | marajin | dcordes: D'ya know if SDHC'll work on the titan? |
00:39.29 | marajin | wasup: On a 2GB card yes |
00:39.56 | wasup | ok..and its preformatted... i freaking need a windows computer.. the one negative about mac |
00:40.19 | marajin | a mac can format to fat |
00:40.40 | wasup | i have no card reader... |
00:40.56 | marajin | Well, no worries |
00:41.39 | wasup | yeah... if all else fails i can just do it at my work.. but that means i have to wait till tomorrow...haha |
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00:42.25 | wasup | oh and do you know... does the sprint stock rom run android ok? |
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00:42.47 | wasup | it seems pretty stable... plus boots up with over 50 percent free |
00:43.03 | dcordes | marajin: no clue, try? |
00:43.17 | marajin | dcordes: heh, it's wasup that's asking basically |
00:43.35 | dcordes | he should just try then |
00:43.45 | wasup | hahaha |
00:43.51 | marajin | dcordes: Well he's about to buy a card, so it's... |
00:43.56 | wasup | i would.. but i dont wanna be out 80 something dollars |
00:44.02 | marajin | wasup: O.o |
00:44.15 | dcordes | I bought one 8gb with tiny usb reader for 30 eur |
00:44.17 | marajin | wasup: a 4GB SDHC is er.. 30 bucks or les |
00:44.32 | marajin | wasup: I bought mine for 28 USD |
00:45.57 | wasup | really? |
00:46.01 | wasup | what store? |
00:47.20 | marajin | Um, a UK store but basically that's what the base price of an SDHC 4GB card is |
00:49.29 | wasup | oh i found one at circuit city for 39 |
00:49.39 | wasup | but idk... if it doesnt work im gonna be sad.. |
00:49.46 | wasup | i need ANDROID |
00:49.52 | wasup | :) |
00:49.59 | marajin | hah |
00:50.08 | marajin | wasup: It's not /useable/ really yet though. |
00:50.22 | wasup | i know... but just the fact that it boots... |
00:50.33 | wasup | i tried for soooo long before it was booting. |
00:50.51 | wasup | then the day it boots.. my freakin phone gets jacked |
00:51.00 | wasup | with my sd card |
00:51.23 | marajin | >.< |
00:51.29 | marajin | you were insured tho' huh? |
00:52.00 | wasup | yeah |
00:52.05 | wasup | i already got my new phone |
00:52.10 | marajin | goodo |
00:52.12 | wasup | thats why im asking about the sd |
00:54.50 | wasup | well later everyone... take it easy.. talk to you all tomorrow |
01:11.36 | dcordes | somebody seen eBug lately? I'm interested in sedna research |
01:11.52 | marajin | Not since the last time you were talking to him |
01:11.56 | ginge | so does anyone know why egpio cpld would break in 2.6.25? |
01:12.22 | dcordes | ginge: does htc-egpio.c build fail for you? |
01:12.27 | ginge | no |
01:13.10 | dcordes | I would look into htc-egpio code then, I'd believe something has changed in .25 htc-egpio depends on |
01:13.31 | ginge | are there any kaiser specific patches to this? |
01:14.39 | dcordes | hmmm when babel0 guided me adding egpio to the tree, I think we made some minor modifications |
01:15.08 | dcordes | but not so sure on this |
01:15.37 | ginge | can you gitdiff against google msm tree? |
01:15.45 | dcordes | what's definetly kaiser-specific about egpio is the gpio definitions in the board.h |
01:16.13 | ginge | that wont change between kernels though |
01:16.20 | dcordes | ginge: how did yoou do it? Just fetched google? |
01:16.38 | ginge | then checked out a specific tag |
01:17.04 | ginge | then tried git merge with linuxtogo. when that failed I just patched the few things that needed patching |
01:17.04 | dcordes | which? android? |
01:17.16 | ginge | I checked out android, yes |
01:17.28 | ginge | and then patched in kaiser code |
01:18.13 | dcordes | ok. could you run a git-diff origin/android in the new tree? |
01:20.09 | dcordes | oh by the way, our tree is derived from android-msm, not android |
01:20.15 | dcordes | don't know if they are any different |
01:20.56 | dcordes | and a thought on egpio: We use an outdated version. drivers/mfd/htc-egpio is in vanilla and that version is the most recent |
01:21.45 | joshts0 | ginge: any progress? ;) |
01:22.42 | dcordes | maybe with the mainline egpio it will just work |
01:22.47 | ginge | joshts0: sorry no, I got carried away with fixing the kaiser keyboard :) |
01:22.52 | ginge | dcordes: this is mainline |
01:23.16 | dcordes | egpio in our tree? |
01:23.25 | ginge | in android tree |
01:23.37 | dcordes | oh I wasn't aware they put it in |
01:23.57 | dcordes | probably fall back to the htc-msm version then and see if it works |
01:24.06 | ginge | wait a minute... |
01:25.26 | ginge | d'oh! |
01:25.28 | dcordes | I see no htc-egpio in google's drivers/mfd/ |
01:25.34 | dcordes | what is it? |
01:25.36 | ginge | well done :) |
01:25.47 | ginge | I was diffing the wrong f'ing tree |
01:25.57 | dcordes | k |
01:25.58 | ginge | there is no egpio :/ |
01:26.04 | dcordes | so |
01:26.14 | ginge | so yeah, take kaiser one |
01:26.18 | dcordes | ah you didn't use one at all and that's why it gave you no cpld? |
01:26.23 | ginge | its not mainline until 2.6.26? |
01:26.26 | ginge | exactly |
01:27.06 | dcordes | ok. so let's take htc-msm for now |
01:27.21 | dcordes | see if it works if you give me your diff I will try and make mainline egpio work |
01:28.39 | ginge | which is mainline version then? |
01:29.45 | dcordes | wait a minute |
01:30.06 | ginge | do we need asic3? |
01:31.25 | dcordes | http://www.linuxhq.com/kernel/v2.6/26/drivers/mfd/htc-egpio.c |
01:34.12 | dcordes | asic3? we don't have that in msm, do we? |
01:34.47 | ginge | no, guess not |
01:34.55 | dcordes | btw I recall you saying .25 is faster. Does it boot faster? |
01:35.10 | ginge | I am getting dependancy errors on gpiolib now :/ |
01:35.23 | dcordes | with htc-msm oder mainline egpio? |
01:35.34 | ginge | htc-msm |
01:35.56 | dcordes | gpiolib *_* |
01:38.01 | dcordes | arrrgh that Xfbdev is driving me crazy. I think I will wirte to the tslib mailing list |
01:38.27 | dcordes | or better create an OE bug. it's OE userland |
01:38.46 | dcordes | and since kaiser is in OE it should work |
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01:55.14 | marajin | wb ginge |
01:55.55 | tcccp | oh, there's life in here? |
01:56.20 | ginge | barely |
01:56.29 | marajin | tcccp: Yes, but NOT as we know it |
01:57.03 | tcccp | marajin: not as we know it? If it's pervert, sign me up! |
01:57.30 | marajin | Damnit tcccp I'm a geek not a salesman! |
01:58.12 | tcccp | 'arrr ;) |
01:58.31 | marajin | There's kernel oops off the starboard bow! |
01:59.26 | ginge | dcordes: bravo. working :) |
01:59.56 | ginge | wow that was irritating |
01:59.58 | dcordes | ginge: what was wrong? how did you get around the gpiolib error? |
02:00.28 | ginge | dcordes: the gpiolib was caused by generic_gpio.o not being linked |
02:00.41 | ginge | the gpiolib thing was a red herring |
02:01.31 | ginge | okay, now to fixup the sd |
02:04.03 | dcordes | ok |
02:04.19 | ginge | 3am :( |
02:04.24 | dcordes | now reset button works again? :) |
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02:04.40 | dcordes | ginge: 4 :p |
02:04.45 | ginge | crazy |
02:11.44 | ginge | one last build then i'm off to sleep ;) |
02:12.04 | ginge | this is the one, though |
02:13.45 | ginge | hmm |
02:13.50 | ginge | okay, maybe one last ne |
02:14.57 | dcordes | you know you want it!! |
02:15.55 | ginge | okay, seems to work. gonna try android |
02:18.47 | dcordes | which image? |
02:20.54 | ginge | a special ginger one |
02:21.16 | dcordes | can you boot the ginger image from loopfile? |
02:21.31 | ginge | dunno. just use dzos for now |
02:21.43 | ginge | in true ginger style mine doesnt work properly |
02:22.50 | ginge | damn failed to set clock. well. good night |
02:24.52 | dcordes | in android but not angstrom? |
02:24.54 | dcordes | good night |
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04:53.07 | marajin | dcordes: D'ya think it's appropriate to call an android image the "ginger" version? :P |
04:54.57 | marajin | ginge: And you should know better, if it had true ginger style it'd get drunk and start a bar brawl ;) |
04:55.19 | marajin | ginge: ...Hey can we make the kaiser do that? That'd be an awesome phone ; |
04:56.11 | marajin | ginge: "What's your ringtone?" "Oh when I get a call my phone necks 5 pints and then batters the bouncer... you should see it get a MMS though..." |
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05:50.15 | beastie_ | anyone have any info on getting openmoko running on the blue angel? |
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06:22.51 | marbalon | dcordes: ping |
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06:54.04 | AstainHellbring | hey guys |
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07:24.17 | ginge | marajin: thats quite possibly one of the funniest things I have heard in a long while! |
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07:49.43 | marajin | ginge: Man I hope that's sarcasm :P |
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07:54.50 | meredydd | ginge: In the nicest way possible...do you ever sleep, man? |
07:55.09 | marajin | meredydd: He does but if it's for more than 15 minutes we get out the taze |
07:55.11 | marajin | +r |
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08:05.17 | marajin | ginge_: Wb there |
08:05.27 | ginge_ | morning! |
08:05.45 | marajin | ginge_: I said, but I assume you missed, "Man I hope that's sarcasm :P" |
08:07.15 | ginge_ | meredydd: sleep is for the wea...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
08:07.50 | meredydd | "...zzzzzzZZZZAP* * ...where was I?" |
08:07.58 | ginge_ | lol |
08:08.52 | marajin | we installed the caffeine drip but he still dozes off sometimes |
08:09.05 | marajin | any ideas? |
08:09.23 | ginge_ | marajin: thr thought of my ringtone downing 5 pints and battering the bouncer still has me chuckling :) |
08:09.41 | marajin | ginge_: You really thought that was funny? |
08:09.47 | ginge_ | yeah |
08:10.01 | marajin | ginge_: Man you got a weird sense of humour in the mornings, I was sure you were being sarcastic :P |
08:10.23 | ginge_ | just warped |
08:10.38 | marajin | Ah well that I can forgive ;) |
08:11.10 | marajin | carefully glues a small ginger wig to the top of his Kaiser. |
08:12.26 | ginge_ | "just call me emperor mc jimmy" |
08:12.44 | marajin | hah |
08:13.28 | marajin | My kaiser has been GLaDOSified for a while, it'd be good to shake things up a bit |
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08:16.20 | ginge_ | The cake is a lie! |
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08:17.59 | marajin | ginge_: Heh, it mostly goes "Hello and welcome to the enrichment center!.... Hey, hey... what're you doing? Put me down! Hey hey hey! AIIIEEEE... " |
08:18.49 | marajin | and believe me that gets some funny looks :P |
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08:20.04 | ginge_ | I spent about 9 hours watching my mate play that game. It is awesome. |
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08:20.29 | marajin | Man it' the best thing valve ever did |
08:20.37 | marajin | screw HL, I just bought the orange box for portal |
08:20.56 | marajin | GlaDOS cracks me up |
08:21.32 | ginge_ | yeah |
08:21.41 | ginge_ | that must have been fun making up stuff forthat game |
08:21.53 | marajin | And seriously, who doesn't end up at some point suddenly going "....This was a triumph!..... I'm writing a note here.. HUGE SUCCESS!" |
08:22.27 | marajin | Man you should play with the commentary enabled. It makes you feel much less intelligent. |
08:23.07 | marajin | YOu think "ah cool, I found a nifty trick the devs missed" and then the commentary is like "yeah we knew you could cheat here but we just decided to let players do it anyway to reward them for thinking outside the box" |
08:23.59 | marajin | Or the fact that the game would acknowledge you've gone and got yourself stuck somewhere stupid and has an inbuilt set of trapdoors and whatnot to put you back where you're meant to be. |
08:27.05 | ginge_ | can you play these steamy games in non Pindows? |
08:27.14 | marajin | sometimes? |
08:27.30 | ginge_ | portal for example |
08:27.59 | marajin | they claim so yes |
08:28.14 | marajin | claim wine'll do it |
08:28.16 | marajin | http://www.fsckin.com/2007/10/15/how-to-run-team-fortress-2-half-life-2-hl2-ep-12-in-ubuntu-using-wine/ |
08:29.37 | meredydd | Okay, could I get clarification from Them Wot Knows - am I correct in thinking that the Elf, although looking aesthetically similar to the Vogue on the outside, does *not* have the Vogue's level of support? |
08:29.38 | ginge_ | interesting. |
08:30.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: HELP ! |
08:31.02 | marajin | meredydd: Isn't the elf a bit of an older device? |
08:31.07 | kiozen | hides |
08:31.13 | marajin | ... ok so it's a year old |
08:31.14 | marajin | hmm |
08:31.17 | meredydd | yeah - Wikipedia says the Vogue's newer and flashier. |
08:31.36 | meredydd | And I'd got the impression from the forums that it was the (CDMA) Vogue, and the Vogue only. |
08:31.40 | marajin | yeah man but 9-12 months is the average cycle between releases with HTC |
08:32.03 | marajin | I mean I'd barely got my hermes when the kaiser came outand now we've got the diamond/raphael |
08:32.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: "we really appreciate your call. currenly all member of our support staff are busy. please hold the line ...." |
08:32.38 | kiozen | BabelO_: what's up? |
08:32.41 | BabelO_ | lol |
08:32.54 | marajin | meredydd: Anyway yeah the vogue is much beefier than the elf |
08:33.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: GT with my latest gpx track, when i load a geodata, with two in same directory, it load both |
08:33.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: other thing, i cant see the curve.... on linux i can ... |
08:33.32 | marajin | meredydd: 200mhz Omap + 64MiB RAM vs 400Mhz MSM7500 + 128MiB RAM |
08:33.53 | kiozen | BabelO_: errrr, what? |
08:34.43 | BabelO_ | when i click on track / view statistic |
08:34.53 | BabelO_ | kiozen: a loop event occur... |
08:37.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: first left click than right click? |
08:45.32 | BabelO_ | kiozen: first left click on togle graphic icon |
08:46.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: hm,it's working on my windows version |
08:46.06 | BabelO_ | :( |
08:46.37 | kiozen | BabelO_: try the one from sf.net |
08:46.47 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
08:49.30 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yep, the nice installer :) |
09:07.34 | Rroet | moin all |
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09:22.56 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, it was my windaube computer, 3 weeks withut reboot... |
09:23.08 | kiozen | lol |
09:23.26 | kiozen | you shouldn't do |
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10:08.35 | Foxdie | heya goxboxlive |
10:19.11 | goxboxlive | hi Foxdie |
10:19.30 | Foxdie | long time no speak, how goes? |
10:19.43 | goxboxlive | i'm fine, how about ou? |
10:19.46 | goxboxlive | you |
10:20.02 | Foxdie | I'm good, just been busy trying to arrange moving home :) |
10:20.20 | Foxdie | haven't been following universal linux lately, is there any new developments in the last couple of months? :) |
10:21.01 | goxboxlive | Foxdie: i havent either. I am not that active anymore |
10:21.33 | goxboxlive | Universal i havent booted for several months now, i tried out MioA701 for a week ago, but it's not full support on that either. |
10:21.45 | goxboxlive | Actually, i have a iPhone 3G now :-) |
10:21.48 | Foxdie | oh god |
10:21.53 | Foxdie | you traitor ;) ;) |
10:22.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what is the DEM red line ? i ve wrong altitude display because of that |
10:22.26 | Foxdie | so linux development for universal is dead? |
10:22.28 | goxboxlive | :-) |
10:22.39 | marajin | bah iPhone... |
10:22.41 | goxboxlive | Anyway, i have to go now. |
10:22.53 | Foxdie | (I secretly want a iPhone3G but I don't want to go onto o2, bad tariff) |
10:22.57 | Foxdie | oh, take care dude |
10:23.08 | marajin | what's wrong with the o2 Tariffs? |
10:23.15 | Foxdie | they're crap? ;) |
10:23.19 | marajin | Oh, wait, yeah, the iPhone specific tariff shafts you :P |
10:23.24 | Foxdie | Exactly |
10:23.37 | marajin | Note: "iPhone Specific" |
10:23.51 | Foxdie | I quite like my t-mobile contract, £12 a month gets me unlimited internet usage on my Universal :) |
10:24.16 | Foxdie | I use it to listen to online radio stations while driving to work :) |
10:24.29 | Foxdie | but I'd much prefer linux on it |
10:24.29 | marajin | same contract with like.. a kaiser... you get like 1500 minutes/500 texts/unlimited data |
10:24.38 | Foxdie | sadly I think development has stopped |
10:24.52 | Foxdie | cr2 and everyone are probably more interested in newer devices |
10:25.11 | marajin | Foxdie: Yeah it's all about Kaiser/Vogue/Titan at the moment |
10:25.33 | Foxdie | its a shame, not everyone can afford a new device |
10:25.40 | Foxdie | the problem is continuity |
10:25.46 | marajin | No neither can I really but I got one anyway |
10:25.49 | Foxdie | people move onto new phone before finishing development on old phone |
10:25.50 | marajin | foolish geek. |
10:26.02 | Foxdie | we all are in a way marajin ;) |
10:26.03 | marajin | Ah well that's cause the sumbitches release a new one like every 9months |
10:26.58 | marajin | I barely got the hermes when the kaiser came out and now I got a kaiser the diamond is out and the raphael's out soon |
10:28.11 | marajin | but the iPhone, naw I never got the appeal |
10:28.22 | marajin | It's just an overpriced fashion accessory |
10:28.36 | marajin | that's so behind on going 3G it's unreal |
10:29.38 | marajin | I mean, I'm sure it's technically nifty, but it doesn't semm particularily practical to me |
10:30.00 | Foxdie | when you've got a universal practicality isn't such a major worry |
10:30.08 | marajin | heh |
10:30.13 | Foxdie | (because universal is so big and bulky, especially with long life battery pack) |
10:30.27 | Foxdie | which I need just to get it through the day |
10:30.31 | marajin | oh screw big and bulky man. I'm big and bulky, it's a perfect match |
10:33.52 | marajin | though the battery life would get irritating |
10:35.07 | marajin | Foxdie: You use a lot of talktime on your universal? |
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10:53.31 | Foxdie | nope, very little actually |
10:53.40 | Foxdie | I have a HTC artemis for voice calls and gps gracking |
10:53.44 | Foxdie | *tracking |
10:54.03 | Foxdie | I use my universal for listening to shoutcast radio stations and megadrive / genesis emulator |
10:55.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: if you have DEM data loaded it will show the elevation from DEM as red line |
10:56.46 | Foxdie | kiozen, you discussing iGO 8? DEM sounds familiar |
10:57.18 | kiozen | Foxdie: Digital Elevation Data |
10:57.29 | Foxdie | Yep, but for sat nav software? |
10:57.36 | Foxdie | in particular, iGO 8? |
10:57.53 | kiozen | Foxdie: ok, no just my own QLandkarte stuff |
11:05.51 | Foxdie | ahh :) |
11:46.29 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah... so not good for me |
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12:11.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol error in the DEM data. or wait ... is that peak close to the sea? |
12:12.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: and isn't the speed limit 120 km/h in france? |
12:16.03 | kiozen | BabelO_:I need that DEM file |
12:22.29 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you have already it :) Z_37 or 34 don't remember |
12:22.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it was 90km/h speed limit |
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12:23.17 | kiozen | BabelO_: think there must be an error in my speed calculation |
12:23.19 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and i 'm at 14 km of the sea :) |
12:23.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: why ? |
12:23.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: because it show a speed of 120 km/h ;) |
12:24.51 | kiozen | BabelO_: DEM uses a no data value for areas failed to be measured |
12:25.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: e.g. water bodies |
12:26.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: but the speed is ok :) it is 120km/h that's not a bug |
12:26.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: if wife don't see it , i ve no problem :) |
12:27.15 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes. it was a joke :) |
12:27.29 | kiozen | BabelO_: the DEM file should have a "no data" value defined |
12:27.31 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah ok, but maybe rounding should be ok for speed |
12:28.20 | kiozen | BabelO_: The Z_37_4.tif I have got does not define such a value. |
12:31.53 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is the mercator version? |
12:32.09 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
12:32.34 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok mine is 19Mb :( |
12:35.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: send me the track |
12:35.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
12:39.06 | kiozen | BabelO_: hm graphs are ok for me. I upload my DEM file... |
12:39.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok thanks,still don't understand why |
12:40.54 | kiozen | BabelO_: water absorbes the satelite signal, thus raw SRTM data has "no data" at these locations |
12:41.28 | kiozen | BabelO_: there are SRTM files that replace these no data values by sensible ones. |
12:41.57 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ah ok, maybe depend where i download it |
12:46.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: http://www.qlandkarte.org/Z_37_4.tif |
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12:49.35 | kiozen | funny track, I like that part from 5.8 to 6.9 km |
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14:59.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen : ok i found how to reproduce the buggy DEM file loop even with your compile and your DEM :) |
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15:04.12 | kiozen | BabelO_: how? |
15:05.16 | BabelO_ | kiozen: :) |
15:05.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: why part 5.8 to 6.9 is funny ? |
15:05.37 | BabelO_ | kiozen: when you show the curve on top |
15:06.13 | kiozen | ?? on top |
15:06.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: just click on the curve around the hand and continue to click each 1cm going to the left |
15:06.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: you will see the bug |
15:06.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes curve where is DEM and gps measure |
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15:08.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: can you send the track to gmx.de, can't reach my office pc |
15:08.12 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok |
15:09.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: mail sent |
15:09.38 | BabelO_ | and when loop occur you will see the red line pick |
15:13.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: hm, I am clicking like a beserk but nothing happens. |
15:14.10 | kiozen | maybe a win32 bug |
15:14.21 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i ll try at home then :( |
15:14.39 | BabelO_ | what is a beserk ? |
15:16.03 | kiozen | some kind of brutal warrior, no brain big muscles |
15:16.22 | kiozen | once triggered you can't stop him :) |
15:16.52 | kiozen | like Steve Ballmer |
15:17.23 | ginge_ | lol |
15:18.03 | kiozen | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvsboPUjrGc |
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15:26.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: lol, he is on windows 1.0 video too :) |
15:27.46 | rakeem | kiozen - Nice. How's he getting on "ending"Google anyway? All - Anyone know if there's been any work done on a more stable acx100 driver for the Uni? |
15:28.03 | rakeem | Hey BabelO...! Long time! |
15:28.17 | rakeem | You still on the BA? |
15:28.43 | BabelO_ | rakeem: not really, more on artemis, but have to fix the keyboard on ba when found time to do it |
15:29.58 | rakeem | Ha! You and Kevin2 have been promising us that for ages...! The anticipation....! ;-) |
15:30.35 | rakeem | What's the Artemis again? Got a link? |
15:31.01 | BabelO_ | rakeem: pH5 try to run BA / magician / hx4700 on 2.6.26 |
15:32.30 | BabelO_ | rakeem: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393973 |
15:32.50 | rakeem | Hmmm... Do you know if they've moved the acx driver across to the new 802 softmac thingammybob? If so does it apply on the Uni? |
15:35.43 | rakeem | Damn! Qtopia's running! Last time I checked, the only devices really doing anything were the Uni and BA. Anyone care to fill me in on what others I've missed out on lately? Has the Uni been supplanted as the device of choice? |
15:38.58 | cr2 | rakeem: no. it'll become pxa_camera soon, so the hw support will be complete. |
15:39.12 | cr2 | BabelO- |
15:39.26 | cr2 | BabelO_: is the arte qtopia == ba qtopia ? |
15:43.17 | BabelO_ | cr2: yes, only plugin changed |
15:44.05 | BabelO_ | rakeem: but no power management on arte at the moment and no wifi |
15:44.08 | BabelO_ | nogsm too |
15:46.22 | BabelO_ | cr2: i use eactly same OE image and update the scripts to fit both device |
15:46.33 | cr2 | BabelO_: is the plugin dynamic ? i.e. will it autodetect the machine ? |
15:46.53 | cr2 | having more than one qtopia image is pita ;) |
15:48.21 | kiozen | cr2: afaik no |
15:50.41 | BabelO_ | cr2: for phone yes, they use AT+CGMI if i remember which return the modem string so they load the right plugin |
15:51.18 | BabelO_ | cr2: for keyboard, it is possible too , me, i use a cat /proc/cpuinfo from bash to set correct environment variable |
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15:53.46 | kiozen | BabelO_: but you do it all in one plugin right? |
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15:55.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no you do one plugin per phone modem, if qtopia detect multiple plugin in directory, it load each one and send the CGMI result to entry point of plugin |
15:55.56 | kiozen | ok, good to know |
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15:56.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: for keyboard, yes, one plugin for all else the kerneltty plugin can work on all device if you are able to parameter all your key for a console |
15:57.44 | dcordes | morning |
15:59.39 | cr2 | BabelO_: and CGMI is what ? "HTC" ? |
15:59.49 | cr2 | dcordes: hehe. |
16:01.00 | BabelO_ | cr2: generic AT GSM7.07 command AT+CGMI or AT+GMI, don't remember :) have to look at the code |
16:01.57 | BabelO_ | cr2: don't remember the result, but in your plugin you can ask another AT+CGMM for example to get the device itself if modem return HTC |
16:04.49 | kiozen | cr2: hardly dare to ask: battery monitor? |
16:05.02 | kiozen | cr2: anything I can try? |
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16:15.22 | cr2 | kiozen: i still don't understand the 15bit, so looking for the ssp setup setting. |
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16:40.39 | BabelO_ | cr2: look at your pm if you have interest in this :) |
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16:43.42 | ginge | dcordes: just seen some new audio init code in dzo's new diff |
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16:50.36 | rakeem | Hey cr2, nice to see you... The connoisseur of microprocessors... |
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16:58.15 | dcordes | ginge: for phone use? |
16:58.33 | rakeem | cr2: Know if there's been any changes to the Uni's acx driver? As you're probably aware, it's always required quite a bit of love... |
16:58.35 | ginge | dcordes: looks that way. controllers for setting the headset outputs etc |
16:58.43 | dcordes | neat!! |
16:58.43 | pH5 | good evening |
16:58.48 | dcordes | hi pH5 |
16:58.53 | rakeem | Hey ph5! Long time! |
16:59.07 | dcordes | ginge: proc_comm? |
16:59.30 | ginge | dcordes: no, a massive array of vogue specific values that we need to work out for ourselves :/ |
16:59.41 | rakeem | And dcordes! Ain't seen you since I was on the BA... |
17:00.18 | pH5 | rakeem: you're looking at the acx driver? |
17:01.04 | dcordes | rakeem: how are things? |
17:01.04 | pH5 | I've just yesterday poked acx100 ML about the patch in hh.org cvs. |
17:03.55 | dcordes | ginge: arch/arm/mach-msm/AudioPara.c |
17:04.08 | ginge | dcordes: and also look in vogue_hw.c |
17:04.15 | dcordes | ginge: that's heavy looks worse than sd clock registers |
17:04.31 | dcordes | omg |
17:04.35 | ginge | dcordes: makes the sd registers look like childsplay. we need to do some serious tracing |
17:04.48 | AstainHellbring | pretty nasty huh? |
17:05.21 | dcordes | AstainHellbring: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/diffs search for AudioPara.c |
17:05.44 | dcordes | ginge: did you try tuning the display backlight back on? |
17:05.52 | AstainHellbring | damn |
17:05.57 | ginge | dcordes: yes, it needs work |
17:09.16 | dcordes | ginge: any clue what that is? PHONE_TTY_FUL |
17:09.44 | ginge | dcordes: not looked at any of it as yet, so no |
17:10.50 | dcordes | I didn't expect 'extusb' to be so massive |
17:10.53 | ginge | at a guess it is the tty for the phone ;) |
17:11.29 | cr2 | ginge: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=399762 |
17:11.36 | cr2 | rakeem: hi |
17:11.45 | dcordes | maybe that's why usb wasn't working so far, probably the wrong mode is set initially |
17:11.55 | cr2 | pH5: did you get any response ? |
17:12.01 | ginge | cr2: thanks :) |
17:13.06 | ginge | dcordes: where is that? |
17:13.17 | cr2 | pH5: the older devices are not in the list: http://code.google.com/p/htc-flasher/wiki/SupportedDevices |
17:13.21 | rakeem | pH5: ML=mailing_list? Does that mean you're calling in acx driver specialists to help us out? |
17:13.30 | pH5 | cr2: yes, david planella updated bill reese's age old bug: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1499485&group_id=75380&atid=543747 |
17:14.21 | dcordes | ginge: what? |
17:14.37 | ginge | dcordes: extusb? |
17:14.57 | dcordes | that's how htc calls the usb jacks |
17:15.25 | ginge | dcordes: is thaat soemthing to doo with dzo's patch? |
17:15.45 | AstainHellbring | extusb is usb on one side and other shit on the other side |
17:15.56 | cr2 | dcordes: it's not only usb. it has some more weird pins. |
17:16.19 | ginge | is confused |
17:16.28 | dcordes | ginge: it seems to me like it sets the mode for what the jack does: either usb host/client, audio, etc..? |
17:16.36 | cr2 | dcordes: some of them are spi (H2W in kaiser wince dlls) |
17:16.46 | dcordes | and my thought was, usb probably won't work until we set the usb mode |
17:16.48 | ginge | dcordes: I have seen some... what cr2 said |
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17:17.33 | dcordes | cr2: http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/diffs arch/arm/mach-msm/AudioPara.c |
17:17.39 | dcordes | is that related to that spi stuff? |
17:18.32 | rakeem | Anyone: I have four different batteries for my Uni. Each one seems to imbue the device with a different level of stability, depending on the level of charge. With one or two I'm lucky if I can even boot CE without "GSM radio has crashed. Device would reboot in 30 seconds". Am I mad or does this make sense? |
17:18.42 | cr2 | pH5: looks good. now we need the "generic" CF and SDIO parts added there. |
17:19.16 | pH5 | actually, I need the base acx100 driver to build on 2.6.26 before I can test anything :/ |
17:19.24 | cr2 | hehe. |
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19:45.35 | wasup | mmm... looking at android on the titan |
19:45.40 | wasup | its a beautiful site |
19:45.43 | wasup | sight* |
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19:58.37 | BabelO | goxboxlive: :) how iphone gps is working ? is it working well ? even in the car |
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20:00.55 | goxboxlive | BabelO: i havent tried it actually |
20:01.29 | BabelO | goxboxlive: can you tell me when you have time :) friend want to buy one, but he read bad article about it |
20:01.31 | drasar | Hi. Is usb ethernet gadget working for anybody on 2.6.21-hh20? |
20:01.33 | goxboxlive | But it works inddow like my mio so i guess it's as good as usual ones. But i think google maps suckt compared to tomtom and such |
20:01.43 | BabelO | drasar: yes working well |
20:02.06 | goxboxlive | s/inddow/indoors/ |
20:02.14 | drasar | BabelO: What device do you have? |
20:02.47 | BabelO | drasar: nokia n800, greephone, htc blueangel, htc artemis, it works on all |
20:02.54 | goxboxlive | BabelO: but it is an outstanding phone, I really like the software iTunes (on phone) appstore and you tube |
20:03.03 | goxboxlive | you tube is realy good |
20:03.24 | drasar | BabelO: ...but on my Himalaya it doesn't work :( |
20:03.39 | marajin | wasup: do you need the tissues? |
20:05.02 | drasar | BabelO: I can see usb0 only on himalaya, not on PC |
20:05.44 | BabelO | drasar: so it is loaded and up |
20:05.52 | BabelO | maybe just usben is wrong |
20:06.02 | BabelO | drasar: do you have usbnet loaded on pc side ? |
20:06.23 | BabelO | drasar: and a dmesg output when you plug himalaya in, you can see usb event ? |
20:06.29 | drasar | BabelO: Yes, all modules that are needed are loaded on both sides |
20:07.05 | BabelO | drasar: but dmesg on computer ? |
20:07.11 | wasup | haha |
20:07.25 | drasar | BabelO: On computer is nothing in dmesg... |
20:07.31 | wasup | so i guess someone got a semi working keyboard for the titan |
20:08.25 | BabelO | drasar: so maybe usben pin is not set |
20:08.51 | drasar | BabelO: If I use 2.6.12 xanadux kernel, it goes fine -- on PC is printed message that new usb0 device is created |
20:09.38 | BabelO | drasar: ok, so it is the usb en declaration in your main board file in hh kernel, look at ba and compare |
20:14.08 | drasar | BabelO: Could you describe it in more detail please? Where can I find this declaration? :) |
20:15.06 | BabelO | drasar: arch/arm/mach-pxa/himalaya/hymalaya.c and you should fit to mach-pxa/htcblueangel/blueangel.c |
20:15.12 | BabelO | only the usb part |
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20:32.24 | drasar | BabelO: Ok, but I don't know what I should to find in these files. I am newbie in this world ;) |
20:34.51 | drasar | BabelO: What do you mean with "only the usb part"? In himalaya.c I can find nothing about usb. |
20:38.56 | BabelO | drasar: sorry it is htchimalya/himalaya_udc.c |
20:40.35 | BabelO | drasar: do you select it in make menuconfig ? |
20:44.15 | drasar | BabelO: Yes. When I connect/disconnect himalaya to/from PC, I can see on Himalaya "udc_is_connected ...", but nothing on PC |
20:45.53 | BabelO | drasar: ok |
20:48.32 | cr2 | drasar: do you see "_udc_control: connect" ? |
20:49.21 | cr2 | i see some discrepancy between the wiki and htchimalaya-asic.h, but i'll trust the header file more. |
20:50.39 | drasar | BabelO: Yes |
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20:51.20 | BabelO | cr2: but there is a difference with BA which use pxa2xx_udc_gpio_info |
20:53.00 | drasar | BabelO: The only difference that I observe between xanadux 2.6.12 and 2.6.21-hh20 is that on the second one I can't see "usb0: full speed config #1: 100 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet Subset" |
20:54.40 | cr2 | drasar: did you compile the gadget into the kernel ? |
20:57.03 | drasar | cr2: Yes, in originall config is everything compiled into kernel, but it doesn't work as well |
20:57.46 | goxboxlive | BabelO: did you get my answers? |
20:58.07 | cr2 | drasar: do you see "_udc_control: connect" on the usb cable connect ? |
20:58.10 | BabelO | goxboxlive: yes indoors it works fine :) |
20:58.15 | goxboxlive | good |
20:58.33 | cr2 | goxboxlive: you sold your soul to the devil :) |
20:58.55 | BabelO | cr2: yes, he like iTunes :( |
20:59.32 | drasar | cr2: But in 2.6.12 when I compile everything into kernel, it doesn't work. When I compile gadget and udc as modules, it works. |
20:59.58 | cr2 | drasar: 2.6.12 is very special. and 3 years old. forget about it. |
21:00.26 | drasar | cr2: ok |
21:00.55 | drasar | cr2: Yes, I can see "_udc_control: connect" |
21:02.03 | cr2 | ok, so the puen gpio should be applied. |
21:02.30 | cr2 | since you boot off SD, the asic3 should be ok too. |
21:12.01 | drasar | cr2 & BabelO: But I can see message: "udevd-event[926]: wait_for_sysfs: waiting for '/sys/class/net/usb0/device/driver' failed". And then "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): usb0: link is not ready". Isn't there any connection? |
21:13.44 | BabelO | drasar: did you boot your hima when connected to computer ? |
21:14.34 | drasar | BabeloO: yes |
21:14.46 | BabelO | on htc artemis i ve same kind of error when i forgot to remove the vbus sense in udc file |
21:14.50 | BabelO | drasar: ok |
21:15.25 | BabelO | drasar: can you cat /sys/class/net/usb0/* |
21:19.37 | goxboxlive | cr2: no way. I mean it's better to buy an iPhoen than buy a M$ phone, they are even worse :-) . Even though, i have allready hacked it (jailbeaking), and are able to ssh in to it :-) |
21:20.36 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but you can't install linux. so no fun :) |
21:21.33 | drasar | BabelO: I can try it. But without ssh connection I must boot, redirect output to a file and then read that file from SD card :) |
21:27.22 | goxboxlive | cr2: no i cant do it yet, but something is on it's way: http://www.iphonelinux.org/index.php/Main_Page |
21:28.04 | goxboxlive | hi mickeyl ,so you have gotten back to #htc-linux now? |
21:28.22 | goxboxlive | have you bought a new htc phone? |
21:29.40 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what do you think about diamond ? |
21:30.29 | goxboxlive | cr2: it seems really good, i was wondering buying it instead of the iPhone, but i thought it had too small display and i am a little tired of wince |
21:31.03 | mickeyl | goxboxlive: not yet. I'm keeping a close eye on Kaiser and its successor |
21:31.07 | goxboxlive | cr2: and i also heard someone talked about the speed on it that it where a little slow after using it for a while |
21:31.15 | mickeyl | but my work on a mobile phone framework is soon reaching critical mass |
21:31.16 | goxboxlive | mickeyl: what about the ficphone? |
21:31.32 | cr2 | goxboxlive: small ? |
21:31.37 | goxboxlive | 2,8" |
21:31.37 | mickeyl | what about it? it works and is the only free one, but there's better hardware out there... |
21:32.02 | cr2 | goxboxlive: ok. |
21:32.08 | drasar | BabelO: Here it is: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/out.txt |
21:32.14 | cr2 | vga on 2.8" is an overkill. |
21:32.16 | goxboxlive | mickeyl: are you still working for FIC and active in the development? |
21:32.32 | goxboxlive | cr2: yes i thought that my self |
21:33.04 | goxboxlive | cr2: thats one of the things i miss on the iPhone, it should have a VGA display. |
21:33.23 | mickeyl | goxboxlive: yes, my major client is still Openmoko and i'm getting paid to work on the middleware |
21:34.10 | goxboxlive | cr2: i guess, in a month or two you will have a ipHone 3G yourself and are on your way joining the iphone linux team :-) . And me making Qtopia work on it :-) |
21:34.51 | goxboxlive | mickeyl: i c. Are you using the Freerunner as your main phone now? Is it useable as a main phone, or is it still a little unstable like the NEO? |
21:34.51 | cr2 | goxboxlive: making qtopia run on iphone is cool. |
21:35.03 | goxboxlive | cr2: i think that too. |
21:35.14 | mickeyl | goxboxlive: hardware is ok, software is still unstable. my own framework is ok though, it works fine |
21:35.20 | cr2 | goxboxlive: but i think i'll buy diamond for some of my friends. |
21:35.36 | goxboxlive | hmm i have now jailbraked my iPhne,maybe i should check out the status of roadmap and see if they have it running yet |
21:35.42 | goxboxlive | mickeyl: i c |
21:35.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'd like to finish n560/athena(hermes) |
21:36.30 | goxboxlive | cr2: I thin your friends will be very happy :-) |
21:36.33 | BabelO | drasar: looks of, but link is down, how are your sure ip adress is set and ifconfig up is done ? |
21:36.50 | cr2 | goxboxlive: and then move to this beast http://www.handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/GoPalP4225 |
21:36.52 | goxboxlive | cr2: whats the status on the Athena? Do youhave the SD slot working yet? |
21:37.06 | cr2 | goxboxlive: no. it's the same problem for hermes. |
21:37.31 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'm praying for pH5 to finish asic3-mmc for 2.6.26 first :) |
21:37.53 | cr2 | goxboxlive: an athena has the same accelerometer as moko2 |
21:37.59 | goxboxlive | i c |
21:38.19 | goxboxlive | i have never heard about the GoPal device. I dont think it is available in Norway |
21:38.24 | cr2 | goxboxlive: and a normally working sirf3 gps, without an external antenna ;) |
21:38.50 | goxboxlive | :-*) |
21:38.54 | goxboxlive | :-) |
21:38.57 | goxboxlive | sorry |
21:39.00 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the cpu is from sirf. |
21:39.04 | goxboxlive | ok |
21:39.18 | goxboxlive | cr2: Are you still going to Oslo next week? |
21:39.22 | cr2 | goxboxlive: and the second cpu (DSP) works on gps data processing |
21:39.30 | cr2 | goxboxlive: are you there ? |
21:39.42 | BabelO | cr2: artemis is good to with sirf gps :) |
21:39.46 | goxboxlive | cr2: no, i am going to Spain on saturday |
21:39.54 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i think the same can be done on oma850 too. instead of gsm :) |
21:40.17 | cr2 | goxboxlive: next saturday ? |
21:40.23 | cr2 | 2 aug ? |
21:40.47 | drasar | BabelO: Here is dmesg: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/dmesg.txt |
21:40.56 | goxboxlive | no, this saturday, i am back next (2. aug) |
21:41.04 | cr2 | goxboxlive: the DSP for gps is the most cool engineering idea i know now. the gsm is not that fun. |
21:41.18 | goxboxlive | i c |
21:41.26 | cr2 | goxboxlive: i'm talking about next saturday. |
21:41.37 | cr2 | goxboxlive: what about next friday ? 1 aug |
21:41.37 | goxboxlive | ok |
21:41.44 | goxboxlive | i still in spain |
21:41.47 | cr2 | ok. |
21:41.49 | goxboxlive | i am back 2. |
21:41.51 | goxboxlive | aug |
21:41.59 | cr2 | too late. |
21:42.05 | goxboxlive | and back to work the 4th aug |
21:42.09 | goxboxlive | i c |
21:42.23 | goxboxlive | are you goung to soumi again? |
21:42.27 | cr2 | i have a ticket, and we want to meet with lamikr on the weekend |
21:42.32 | cr2 | yes. |
21:42.34 | goxboxlive | i c |
21:42.44 | cr2 | i'd the in Stockholm at 2 aug. |
21:42.52 | cr2 | s/the /be / |
21:42.58 | goxboxlive | i c |
21:43.27 | cr2 | so if you'd have been in Oslo on the 1 aug, we could have met. |
21:44.31 | cr2 | i think hacking sirf DSP is more interesting than sirf3 itself. |
21:44.32 | goxboxlive | yes :-) i know. But i am far south. |
21:44.41 | cr2 | ok. |
21:45.18 | cr2 | P4225 uses sd-to-flash conversion chip to access the flash. bizarre. |
21:51.30 | drasar | BabelO: http://www.stud.fit.vutbr.cz/~xmichl07/temp/himalaya/ifconfig.txt |
21:53.41 | BabelO | drasar: this is ifconfig of device ? |
21:55.43 | drasar | BabelO: yes |
21:56.31 | BabelO | ok |
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23:54.48 | marajin_ | hmm |
23:54.50 | marajin_ | whoopsie |
23:55.31 | dcordes | hi marajin_ |
23:55.36 | marajin_ | hey dcordes |
23:55.47 | marajin_ | sorry my DSL finally fubarred |
23:55.54 | marajin_ | 8 days without a resync on a 3db SNR :D |
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23:58.45 | marajin_ | dcordes: So how's it going? |