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00:43.39gingedcordes,marajin: I just got the sd card to init, but it failed dma
00:43.55gingedcordes,marajin: this is very good
00:45.01dcordeshi ginge, that's great to hear
00:50.41dcordesbbiab
01:11.56gingekaiser sd init up to date http://pastebin.com/m80e50a9
01:24.16Marajinginge: Niiice :)
01:27.15Marexewwwww :)
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01:35.03ptl[biologo]hi
01:35.26ptl[biologo]is linux in athena currently using wifi and 3g/gsm stack?
01:49.01dzoginge: got sd working fine on vogue, I've just put my latest diff on the website, it boots android from sd with no problems. titan should work now too hopefully.
01:49.39Marexdzo: good job :)
01:49.59dzoneeds a couple of horrible udelays in the irq handlers but seems reliable.
01:51.55Marexdzo: if they are only udelays, then it shouldnt be noticable
01:53.26dzono, but I don't know why they are necessary, the irq code is stuffed up somehow.
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01:54.14Marexdzo: may I see the patch?
02:18.43dzodiffs are at http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
02:23.00Marajindzo: Also niiice :)
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06:06.59hobbzso...
06:07.08hobbzanyone working on anything interesting
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06:31.52kiozenmorning
06:32.08kiozenhey BabelO, all night awake litening to you new radio?
06:32.29kiozens/litening/listening
06:42.38NetRipperis the author of vogue android port in here as well?
06:43.26Marexpokes dzo
06:43.28NetRipperby any chance
06:44.21MarexNetRipper: dzo is the one you look for
06:45.25NetRipperthanks marex
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07:06.17kiozenis there a way to presever time over a reboot on a mobile device?
07:09.07Marexprobably not ... maybe saving it and then restoring it afterwards
07:10.05kiozenok, in this case I will read it from GPS
07:11.40kiozenlol linux can read the time set by wince, but with 20 years offset :P
07:12.35Marexthat's a matter of glibc iirc
07:13.20kiozenand wince looses time on reboot :(
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07:14.50kiozenMarex: you think it's a compile option or an environment var?
07:15.30BabelO_hi
07:15.37BabelO_kiozen: no RTC driver on n560 ?
07:15.39kiozenhi BabelO_
07:15.55kiozenBabelO_:  good question..
07:20.05kiozenBabelO_: CONFIG_RTC_DRV_SA1100=y
07:20.45BabelO_kiozen: you see it in dmesg ?
07:22.23NetRipperkiozen you could add a script in initrd that substracts 20 years from the time ;)
07:24.06kiozenNetRipper: well, as I have to reboot wince to use linload anyway (wacky boot process) I think using GPS time is the easiest approach
07:24.57NetRippertrue if you have a gps device ;) too bad my hermes is lacking a gps
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07:25.33kiozenBabelO_:
07:25.33kiozen[    1.990000] sa1100-rtc sa1100-rtc: rtc core: registered sa1100-rtc as rtc0
07:25.33kiozen[    2.140000] sa1100-rtc sa1100-rtc: setting the system clock to 2026-02-01 00:01:04 (1769904064)
07:25.45kiozenlooks ok to me
07:26.21kiozenNetRipper: yes and the sole pupose of my Loox n560 is to be one big GPS
07:27.10NetRippertrue
07:30.10BabelO_kiozen: so normally hwclock and other should give you back time from wince
07:30.42kiozenBabelO_: yes date does it, but with 20 years offset
07:33.12kiozencr2: are you sure bt and gps power is controled by open()?
07:33.41kiozencr2: I can see a "n560: BT power turned on." in dmesg, but no "n560: BT power turned off."
07:33.51kiozencr2: same applies to gps
07:34.04kiozencr2: but gps I am actually using
07:34.15BabelO_kiozen: so maybe buggy driver
07:35.45kiozenhm, bt_power_on is called in bt_probe()
07:36.02kiozenand bt_power_off in bt_remove()
07:36.35kiozenthe driver is compiled into the kernel, thus I would say bt_remove is called on shutdown only, right?
07:38.52kiozenah it called on PXA_UART_CFG_PRE_SHUTDOWN, too
07:42.16kiozencan anyone explain how open() for the uart would call the power_on() functions
07:43.09BabelO_kiozen: hciattach works like this :)
07:43.26BabelO_kiozen: try hciconfig hci0 up and then down
07:49.24kiozenok, looks like hciattach will turn bt off
07:49.47kiozen"hciconfig hci0 up" does it turn on
07:49.59kiozenand down does nothing :(
07:53.07kiozenno, wrong htcattach turns it off and then on :/
07:54.36kiozensomething smells fish...
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08:01.42premyginge: nice...... What did you do to make it work ?
08:02.26kiozencr2: thinik we have to set a bt_power_off() and gps_power_off() in the kernel
08:02.39kiozencr2: what would be the right place for it?
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08:35.10premyginge_: ok got it. SD is on SDC2.
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08:45.56cr2kiozen: "n560: BT power turned on." is only a debug message. we can add the 'off' too.
08:46.21kiozencr2: there is a debug message for off :)
08:46.26cr2kiozen: the *_power_on/off() can be done through /sys
08:46.44cr2kiozen: hm. need to check :)
08:47.11kiozencr2: imho, the basic state of bt and gps after boot should be "off"
08:47.32kiozenbut the *_off  function is never called
08:47.42cr2should be done by haret, or in _probe()
08:47.50cr2kiozen: got your e-mail
08:48.04kiozencr2: probe turns it on
08:50.55kiozencr2: do the devices have to be powerd after probe, eg bt for some other stuff?
08:56.14NetRipperare you guys using the git.android.com repository for the kernel hacking?
08:56.42kiozenNetRipper: no, the one from hh.org
08:56.43NetRipperor another port?
08:56.47NetRipperk
08:58.59NetRipperi'm going to try to get it working on my hermes.. i got the kernel working, just need to create an initrd
09:11.18kiozencr2: witch bt off in probe seems to work, hciattach will turn it on and off (if I kill it)
09:12.14kiozencr2: however gps will not power up if M opens /dev/ttyS2
09:12.38kiozencr2: any idea where to look to fix that?
09:20.46NetRipper.
09:20.49NetRipperoops
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10:09.21cr2kiozen: gps and bt should be identical.
10:09.57cr2kiozen: it's just some gpio+reset combination of powerup/powerdown.
10:10.04kiozencr2: a "cat /dev/ttyS2" does not power up the gps
10:11.29kiozencr2: gps_on() and gps_off() are not called
10:12.08kiozencr2: either cat does not use open(), or something is missing
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11:09.56ginge_7premy: to get that far I changed the sdc_resources from sdc1 to sdc2 so that the right addressea are beinng used for out host.
11:10.34ginge_7I have a fre concererns regarding the pclk, as it seems like it will only work with sdc1 clock device. sdc2 clock give a no valid clock error
11:10.43ginge_7s/fre/few/
11:12.10premyginge: pclk: I get 0x20000-0x11,0xfff00069, is that what you also have on your side ?
11:13.00ginge_7not too sure at the moment I have no remote access to the code/device to check. I will have a look later on when I get in.
11:13.21ginge_7it might just be that the SDIO clock for the wifi is in a different location to what we thought
11:14.26premyginge: did you try dzo's latest code against 2.6.25, or are you still on 2.6.24 ?
11:14.46ginge_7I am still on 2.6.24 at the moment, not rtied the dzo code from last night yet
11:15.23ginge_7I will check the patch out and hopefully get it patched into .24 . the code base for the sdcc is not too dissimilar
11:16.58ginge_7how are you getting on with the polaris? Last I heard you still had clock-get issues
11:18.04premyginge: no no, I think we're at the same point.
11:18.18ginge_7dma problems?
11:18.27premyYEsterday I was stuck with no answer to the CMDs.
11:18.54premyBut I tried this morning swapping to SDC2, and then got the answers.
11:19.31premyAnd now I have the same DMA problems as you, I guess.
11:19.34ginge_7did you change the sdc1_clk and pclk valied to 2 also?
11:21.24premyginge_: no.
11:21.47ginge_7sam we are basically at the same place then
11:22.16premydid you try changing SDC1_CLK ?
11:22.36ginge_7yws, thats when I get the invalid clock errors
11:22.55NetRipperis dzo's code on hh.org as well?
11:24.02ginge_7premy: got to go, catch up with you later.
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11:38.18premyginge: you must get the invalid clock errors because clock-7X00.c is patched to only work with SDC_CLK1.
11:39.54premyginge: I don't think changing SDC1_CLK will help. It's only an internal reference. a8/ac is what is important.
11:40.19dcordesso it was the wrong sdc..
11:41.46premyginge: the best way to do would probably to have common.c initialize msm_sdc2_device rather than msm_sdc1_device, and to implement the clock for both SDC1 (a0/a4) and SDC2(a8/ac). What do you think ?
11:41.48dcordesNetRipper: no msm chip code is on handhelds. there is git.linuxtogo.org branch htc-msm but this is mostly for kaiser. it is git.android.com branch android with parts of this patches http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue
11:43.06dcordespremy: clock for both devices would be useful because of the wifi
11:43.08dcordesor not?
11:43.09premydcordes: yes, but we're still not completely there yet. But we're definitely getting closer.
11:43.44dcordescertainly exciting
11:44.58premydcordes: yes probably, but there's a comment in board-htchalibut.c that seems to imply that it's not that simple to have mutliple sdc's working at the same time.
11:45.15premydcordes: "TODO: Enable these once we have support for the SDC mux"
11:45.47dcordesah enable the mux right. I always wondered what that is
11:46.19dcordeshm maybe we can steal code from another linux devices that uses two devices on sdcc?
11:46.40premydcordes: but first let's have SD up and running, and see that later.
11:47.14amiral_sd don't work ? what is the chip used for sd ?
11:47.17dcordesyes true.
11:47.44dcordesisn't it in the 7200?
11:48.02dcordes7x00x respectively
11:49.30amiral_msm7x00 chip ... where can i find htc vogue hardware list ?
11:50.07dcordesyou mean like kaiser research in xda wiky?
11:50.20amiral_http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/
11:50.31dcordeswhat about that site?
11:50.40amiral_the htc vogue is the same as htc kaiser ?
11:51.02dcordesnot exactly. vogus is msm7500 while kaiser is msm7200
11:51.15dcordesalso they havea different ts...
11:51.29NetRipperthanks for the info dcordes
11:52.10dcordesvogue has no keyboard, no wifi. and msm7500 vs msmw7200 brings differences in memory setup etc
11:52.49amiral_ok, dcordes ! what we need to know for the sd problem ?
11:53.28dcordespremy and ginge will be ab le to explain best
11:54.21amiral_ginge  ;) can you explain me, what we need ?
11:54.57dcordesamiral_: I would suggest to first grab the sd patch but I fear there is none for kaiser. You can look at the vogue code though
11:55.41NetRipperi thought SD was working in the latest patches on the vogue site, but next step is the wifi which is connected via sdio
11:55.41dcordeswould be cool if ginge could make a git-diff of his tree against htc-msm
11:56.12NetRipperok, don't know for kaiser ;)
11:56.15dcordesNetRipper: vogue has no wifi. and there are significant differences in the clock setup on kaser vs vogue
11:56.49dcordesNetRipper: amiral_: do you people have a kaiser?
11:57.14NetRipperah, ok
11:57.20NetRipperno sorry, i only have the hermes
11:57.48dcordesalso a nice device but lacks SD support yet. eh?
11:58.13dcordesa friend of mine swapped his hermes against a polaris
11:58.23RroetI've tried vogue's stuff on my polaris today. Great stuff, except for the booting part.
11:58.32NetRipperkind of lacks any support ;)
11:58.36RroetIt's kind of a russian roulette to get it to boot.
11:59.10dcordesRroet: on kaiser, it is known that some windows mobile roms boot more reliably than others.
11:59.15NetRipperi got enthusiastic when i read on the vogue site "It also means that the titan should boot (though I haven't tried it and the keyboard won't work), titan owners let me know." but I think that's the kaiser (tytn 2) he means ;)
11:59.21dcordes(regarding the boot probability)
11:59.32Rroetdcordes: it seems to be the same when I read the android topic in the polaris section.
11:59.51dcordesNetRipper: no, he means the titan. he knows what he does ;)
11:59.56RroetI run a localized rom and mine's having a hard time.. whatever switch I pull in the default.txt
12:00.08RroetWhen it boots though, I can place outgoing calls :-D
12:00.12NetRippertitan != tytn then?
12:00.25Rroetcorrect
12:00.32dcordesNetRipper: titan (msm7500 chip) and vogue (also msm7500) are more similar than kaiser (msm7200) and vogue
12:00.37NetRipperok then that's my confusion ;)
12:00.52dcordespolaris (msm7200) is almost same as kaiser
12:00.57NetRipperok
12:01.08Rroetjep, it just lacks a keyboard and better support by HTC :)
12:01.14dcordesthe whole htc naming stuff definetly is confusing to everybody
12:01.56NetRipperlol yes i suppose
12:02.56dcordesRroet: I envy you vogue lot. I also want to boot from my micro sd :((
12:04.03RroetI don't have a vogue.. I have a polaris ;)
12:04.36Rroetbut the workings of the roms is a lot alike
12:05.31RroetPatience is good. Like read on the vogue page, they're cooperating between the different developers and phones right now.. Unifying code so they have a better platform to work on and do things faster.
12:05.54Rroetor that might have been premy on the polaris android thread who said that.
12:06.15Rroetbtw, sd card booting.. I haven't succeeded yet.
12:07.59dcordesRroet: sorry got it wrong then. well yes, martin__ is cooking on a merge that unifies all 3 places that keep msm code
12:08.35dcordescounting premy's local polaris stuff, I guess it is 4
12:08.40dcordeswhatsoever
12:08.53Rroetand another dutch guy dubbeld0 I think his nick is.
12:09.13RroetI don't know his exact involvment, but premy knows.
12:12.04Rroetwell, time to flash udk's vega image on my polaris. it seems to be the more stable one to get android booted from.
12:13.02dcordespremy kernel
12:14.44premyFor me, at the moment, martin__ is working on unifying and cleaning up the smd code. Ginge and myself are trying to get SD working (which should be the case soon, but then the code will have to be cleaned up a bit). ginge, dcordes and matsuu (?) are putting together an android image with calls, sms and data working, (both CDMA and GSM ?)
12:15.41Rroetright, so polaris and SD booting isn't possible yet.. good to know.
12:15.46NetRipperis any of you aware of any samsung/s3c2442 branches anywhere?
12:16.00RroetI've tried it with martin's zipped package this morning but it hung on Haret
12:16.46NetRipperi got the feeling there aren't many hermes linux devs
12:16.55dcordesRroet: right. on vogue and kaiser not yet
12:17.20RroetSome might call the hermes ancient *shrugs*
12:17.23dcordescr2: I think has some plans on hermes but other things havedifferent priority
12:17.54premySD booting only works with vogue AFAIK, for the moment.
12:18.01NetRipperok
12:18.09dcordesthink most important on hermes is ATI chip which not only provides SD
12:18.21dcordesalso sound iirc
12:18.25NetRipperRroet, which is also why i thought there'd already be a lot of progress ;)
12:19.23dcordespremy: did you know there is already msm code in mainline?
12:19.36dcordesbut very early stage
12:19.53dcordesbbiab
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12:28.03ginge__premy: I changed the SDC clock references in 72xxa.c already. Yes, changing common.c to include SDC1 and SDC2 would be the best idea. We need to add some MUX code in too
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12:29.39premyginge_: even without the mux, I think it would be a lot cleaner to have board-htckaiser call msm_add_sdcc(2, sdcc_kaiser_data), rather than to switch SDC1 and SDC2 values everywhere.
12:30.07ginge__I tried msm_add_sdcc(2) and it oopses the kernel. You cant seem to add from >1 without errors
12:30.31ginge__but yes, once we get something working it would be wise to have that
12:30.42ginge__maybe a sdc1 stub would work
12:31.12premyginge_: yes, but you need to change all the hardcoded SDC1 values in clock to SDC2. Best would be to have both (I'm working on that at the moment).
12:31.22ginge__sounds good
12:31.42premyg2g.
12:31.45ginge__cya
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12:35.07Marajinallo allo
12:36.51MarajinNetRipper: TBH, I have a hermes but I'm more interested in the kaiser development
12:37.34Marajinginge__: Allo there
12:38.17ginge__Marajin: afternoon
12:48.54NetRipperi would be as well if i had a kaiser, 'if' being the operative word
12:48.56NetRipper;)
12:50.40NetRipperit'll be another half a year before I get a new cell
12:57.41CPressJeeze, by that time all of the development would be done.. :P
12:57.50Marajinyep
12:58.12MarajinNetRipper: By the the diamond/Raphael will just be kinda normal and probably leading up to another release in a few months
12:59.42Marajins/the/then/
13:14.34NetRipperyes, so i may wait then some extra months till a new phone comes :p
13:15.01NetRipperactually I got t-mobile as provider so kind of depends what they're offering
13:15.26NetRipperthey'll introduce the diamond this month with t-mobile brand
13:15.48MarajinNetRipper: Yeah they'll always bring out the new vario with the latest HTC offering.
13:16.01MarajinNetRipper: Looks like O2 beat them to the punch with the diamond I guess?
13:16.27MarajinNetRipper: But if I were you I'd look out for the diamond + keyboard, i.e. the touch pro or whatever they'll eventually call it
13:16.52dcordesMarajin: raphael?
13:16.57Marajindcordes: Yeah
13:17.10Marajindcordes: But t-Mobile/O2/etc. will rebrand obviously
13:17.31Marajindcordes: They call the touch duo er.. "XDA Orbit" and the kaiser is an "XDA Stellar" for example
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13:24.14NetRipperi think its the vario III
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13:26.15NetRipperoh wait that's the tytn 2 already
13:27.27NetRipperdiamond is the mda compact IV hehe
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13:29.38premyginge: mmc0: new SDHC card at address d555
13:30.15premyginge: mmcblk0: mmc0: d555 SU086 7977472 KiB
13:30.27premyginge: mmcblk0: p1
13:30.35ginge__good work
13:30.42ginge__what was the needed change?
13:30.44premyFAT: bogus number of reserved sectors
13:31.04premyVFS: can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev mmbblk0
13:31.22premyFAT: codepage cp437 not found
13:32.33premyginge_: just implemented the msm_add_sdcc(2,....) and the corresponding clock.c changes. I'll try to clean it up, and post what I have.
13:32.41premyLater, though....
13:32.45ginge__ok
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13:58.14excogitationgood morning
13:58.44ginge__premy: mmcblk0: mmc0: d555 etc etc :) I just started on mux code and got it going what looks like as far as you.
13:59.30ginge__hmm can mount fat but not ext2
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16:03.18dcordesginge: didn't dzo have the able to mount fat but not ext? problem before?
16:03.30dcordesiirc he changed the block size or so and it worked
16:03.41gingeahh yes, I will try that later
16:04.08dcordesI wonder why googles didn't write a mux code already
16:04.48dcordesmaybe the wifi in google's target machine is not on SD
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16:24.58goxboxlivetsdogs: hi
16:25.06tsdogsgoxboxlive: hi
16:25.16goxboxlivets i got your mail. Testing it out now
16:25.32goxboxlivehmm a new bug , i'll pastebin it
16:25.44tsdogsgoxboxlive: ok I fixed it in cvs it was a bug
16:25.48tsdogsok
16:26.04tsdogsgoxboxlive: what's your distro?
16:26.42goxboxlivetsdogs: debian
16:27.00tsdogsdo you have qt4 and qt3 installed at the same time?
16:27.01goxboxlivetsdogs: pastebin.no/11718
16:27.05goxboxlivei think so
16:27.26tsdogsok
16:27.40goxboxlivetsdogs: yes i have both qt3 and qt4
16:27.51goxboxlivein the last pastebin it seems like i miss some file
16:28.00tsdogsok, what's your QTDIR set to?
16:29.08goxboxlivetsdogs: qtopiacore/target from qtopi-4.3.2
16:29.20goxboxlivebuild directory
16:29.44goxboxliveit has been workingbefore, but i havent tried to build roadmap for some months now
16:30.00tsdogsare u using make or qtopiamake?
16:30.12goxboxlivemake
16:30.41tsdogsok
16:31.06goxboxlivetsdogs: do you want me to pastebin my config.mk ?
16:31.30tsdogswait first I check if it builds here :)
16:31.47goxboxlivetsdogs: pastebin.no/11719
16:33.03tsdogsok here it builds
16:33.29tsdogsMOC=$(QTDIR)/bin/moc
16:34.54goxboxliveok i try
16:35.15tsdogsbtw it should be fixed in cvs
16:35.35tsdogsyou have expat ?
16:35.48goxboxliveyes
16:35.52tsdogsok
16:37.04goxboxliveseems like it buidls now
16:37.09goxboxliveyes it did
16:37.17goxboxlive:-) thanks alot for ytour help
16:37.19tsdogsbtw, now there is no more need to tweak the config.mk you can simply create configuration changes in overrides.mk which is outside of CVS
16:37.25tsdogsgoxboxlive: no prob
16:38.16goxboxlivetsdogs: ok, thats great, because everytime i do 'cvs up' i get a conflict in my config.mk
16:38.38tsdogs:) that's why they did it in the mainline
16:39.42goxboxlivetsdogs: Is roadmap running on iPhone?
16:40.21tsdogsgoxboxlive: with unofficial sdk and unloked phone yes, it's still in its infancy but it should (only minline)
16:40.30tsdogss/minline/mainline
16:40.42goxboxliveok
16:47.02tsdogsgoxboxlive: btw now openstreetmap is supported ... (haven't tryed with xanadux version, I really hope mainline will merge the changes ...)
16:48.32dcordesginge: tried the block size thing?
16:48.39dcordesI didn't find it in the logs
16:48.50gingedcordes: I was just finishing the muxer code so not had chance
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16:49.09gingedcordes: I have sdio almost going now
16:49.22gingenext up: wifi :)
16:49.30dcordes:)
16:49.31okias:-D
16:49.32dcordesokias: hi
16:49.36okiasdcordes: hi :-)
16:49.58okiasginge: thats great :-D
16:50.27dcordesokias: no way. aircrack prohibition for you on kaiser
16:50.43okias:-D
16:50.44dcordes:p
16:51.41okiasdcordes: for now is good enought just connection to unencrypted wifi with linux :-)
16:52.28dcordesokias: you can use wep with acx
16:56.10okiasdcordes: that's good, but acx driver isn't still ported to ieee80211 stack...
16:56.41dcordesokias: you mean mac80211?
16:56.48okiasdcordes: yes
16:57.42dcordesokias: I think it is
16:57.46okiasdcordes: i found only this: http://acx100.sourceforge.net/wiki/Acx-mac80211 and it's really old and buggy
16:58.36okiasmoment, i must eat something..
16:58.54gingedcordes: you guys discussing kaiser wifi?
16:59.52gingedcordes: going for a boot off the sd card in 3 2 1 ...
16:59.55dcordesginge: yes. acx100 driver can be used with kaiser wifi chip
17:00.16dcordesholds breath
17:00.30dcordesokias: that wiki post is obsolete I guess.
17:00.37ginge:( so close
17:00.51gingei havn't look at dzos latest yet. Maybe that will help
17:01.03gingeit got about 10% way though init before bombing out
17:01.43dcordesI bet it will help. didn't he have the same dma problems and said with the latest code they were fixed?
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17:02.35gingeyeah. I have only been hacking this new mux code together for a little while, so it needs refinement.
17:03.50dcordesask san mehat, the google sd person, for funding before you release the mux code lol
17:04.04gingewhat? its about 5 lines of code
17:04.09dcordesoh
17:04.25gingeif SDC1 then else if SDC2 etc
17:04.28dcordesI thought this would be more complex
17:04.38gingeno not really :)
17:04.50gingepremy did the hard work finding the right registers.
17:05.06okiasdcordes: wiki is obsolete, but probably acx100 code = wiki :-D
17:05.37dcordesI doubt it
17:06.28gingedcordes do any of your images have udev?
17:06.38gingebrb
17:07.23dcordesisn't udev standard in angstrom? I will look in the rootfs. else I will make one with it
17:07.34okiasdcordes: lastest build of acx/mac80211-acx 2008-02-10.. code is probably in better status than wiki :-)
17:07.54dcordesginge: yes, all the console images I built should have udev.-
17:08.10dcordesokias: I've seen it. that's why I think it will be ok
17:10.45okiasdcordes: i looked into archive, on changelog: lastest change added - 20061217 :-(
17:11.48dcordesokias: nevermind. if it will be the worst crap driver with mac, we can just use the old stack?
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17:24.26okiasdcordes: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.acx100/ :-) that's look good, changes in git are from may :-) it isn't too old :-)
17:26.29pH5okias: I think it doesn't compile against latest kernels :(
17:27.42okiaspH5: than this look too updated: http://xazz.no-ip.info/projects/gitweb.cgi?p=acx-mac80211.git;a=summary
17:28.32okias*then
17:29.55okiaswow, this git looks really good updated :-)
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17:35.13pH5okias: interesting
17:35.19pH5fetches
17:35.22okiasdrivers in mainline kernel are better supported.. :-( i long time tried compile external driver for rtl8180l... didn't work.. after adding rtl8180l into 2.6.25 working perfect, and no more ndiswrapper in my server :-D
17:37.37pH5too bad people were worried about the reverse engineering involved
17:37.48pH5acx100 is not a clean-room implementation
17:38.00okias:-(
17:40.56dcordespH5: ie parts of the code are 1:1 as in the windows driver from which they got reversed?
17:43.17pH5I don't know, probably very similar. the same people who did the rev-engineering wrote the driver, so some people were worried that'd leave them open to being declared derivative work when acx100 was last time submitted for mainline inclusion, something like that.
17:44.06matsuudoes anyone get Android SDK build 84853? http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/f031c33fe9e5b992
17:44.27pH5is the google android source code opened by now?
17:45.23okias:-D
17:45.36matsuui think it still closed.
17:50.41pH5too bad, I'm looking forward to seeing a few competing open software stacks for mobile phones.
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17:51.38pH5hej Marex
17:51.50dcordespH5: ack. but I doubt google will entirely release the sources
17:51.50Marexhi pH5
17:52.18MarexpH5: I have 17 nice patches waiting for Russell ;)
17:52.40okiasMarex: Hi/Cau :-)
17:53.04pH5dcordes: android doesn't *have* to be one of those free alternatives :)
17:53.07pH5we'll see
17:53.16pH5Marex: don't burn out ;)
17:53.43MarexpH5: Im getting two more devices tomorow btw ;D
17:53.52MarexRussell will surely be happy :)
17:54.20Marexokias: Hi/smarja, zustanme u te anglictiny ;)
17:54.29pH5Marex: two more devices? which ones?
17:54.33okiasMarex: okey ;-)
17:54.42MarexpH5: palmtt{3,5}
17:54.51pH5seems like 2.6.27 only opened the floodgates for handheld inclusion. 2.6.28 will be interesting.
17:55.10Marexwhy isnt palmtx in .26 btw ?
17:55.25okiasI forget to ask... any linux development on Nokia E90?
17:55.41Marexokias: no, but you can donate it to me :p
17:55.58okiasMarex: yeah, sure :-D
17:56.07Marexthanks :)
17:56.11okias:-D
17:56.19pH5Marex: because you started submitting well after the last merge window. it will make .27-rc1
17:56.38Marexah I see :)
17:57.22okiasMarex: i don't have E90 in this moment, but maybe i get one E90... and select of Symbian apps is terrible.. nothing for Jabber/ICQ, nothing for ssh... :-(
17:58.15Marexthere is putty and bombus ;)
17:58.29Marexmoreover ... do you know of any symbian linux loader ?
17:58.43Marex(there is that for SX1, but that's not portable nor opensource :/ )
17:58.47okiasMarex: putty is only for WM, Bombus is for Java...
17:59.02Marexokias: just google symbian putty ...
17:59.06okiasMarex: for bootloader SX1 is possible get sources
17:59.09Marexthere is putty for symbian
17:59.20okiasMarex: moment, i check google
17:59.21Marexokias: oh ? the one that starts for symbian ?
18:00.28okiasMarex: thanks for info about putty :-)
18:00.58Marexwhere are the sources ?
18:01.22pH5okias: that git repo still doesn't compile against 2.6.26. ieee80211_tx_queue_stats changed in recent kernels
18:01.25okiasMarex: non public, but if you ask serrge he maybe give source to you :-)
18:01.54excowhere do I find the rndis inf for Magician? (don't want to reboot)
18:03.11okiaspH5: there is no working repo... isn't any chance get acx100 driver into mainline? There are xxx repos and build but nothing working :-(
18:04.02Marexokias: hmm ... that doesnt sound right
18:04.37pH5okias: I don't know, it's a most unfortunate situation. the many repos seem to exist because the original sourceforge project admins are MIA if I got that right.
18:05.05pH5hi exco
18:05.22pH5inf files sounds like something windowsish, that's not exactly my area of expertise
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18:06.20okiasMarex: i asked few years ago serrge to release codes under GPL2, but he rejected... but maybe he can changed mind..
18:06.30dcordespH5: okias does it work with 24?
18:06.31okias*he changed
18:06.47excoyes... I want to (try to) connect using putty...
18:06.57Marexokias: why did he do so ?
18:07.05Marexif it's not GPLed, Im not interested
18:07.13pH5exco: does this help? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb500930.aspx
18:07.26okiasMarex: moment, i try ask again :-D
18:08.12MarexpH5: "MIA" ? what's that ?
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18:09.03pH5Marex: sry, missing in action
18:09.13okiaspH5: :-D
18:09.25Marex:)
18:09.54okiasMarex: http://forum.oslik.ru/viewtopic.php?t=29918 check E90 :-) OMAP 2420
18:12.23excopH5: found what so was talking about the other day... http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Windows_XP_usbnet
18:13.11Marexokias: I have N76 ;)
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18:16.16excobtw, pH5, is Magician the only device with that particular set of AT commands?
18:17.15MarexpH5: any idea when serial_power patch will be merged ?
18:17.25okiasMarex: are U tried linux loader?
18:17.37okiasMarex: on N76..
18:17.39Marexno ... I use it as a regular cellphone
18:17.48okias:-D
18:19.31pH5exco: see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_GSM, I think himalaya/magician/blueangel/alpine are (nearly?) identical
18:20.07pH5Marex: nope. is it in the patch tracker yet? perhaps ping dmitry to resubmit.
18:20.28MarexpH5: dang :/
18:20.44pH5this patch and the generic clocks one are the patches I'm waiting for the most.
18:20.54Marajinblah
18:21.36okiasjojo
18:21.50okiassorry, wrong window
18:22.26Marex:D
18:22.31excoso is anybody working on himalaya/blueangel/alpine OM userspace ? :-)
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18:28.58MarexpH5: yea, same here, I cant do bluetooth on pxa27x based palms without it
18:31.41pH5hm. that, and the htc-wince suspend/resume hacks. the htc bootloaders don't use PSPR as resume address.
18:36.30Marexwell I'll have to refactor palmtt5-core and palmtt5-pm somehow, no idea how though
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18:36.53Marexmoreover I have no idea where to put such code
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18:51.05dcordesginge: do you want your sd code in htc-msm git?
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18:51.29gingenot yet. Still really unstable and not very clean
18:51.30loxo51hi all
18:52.21dcordesginge: don't mind, better than keeping it on your hd all time. probably other people have ideas on it..
18:52.46gingeokay, let me finish the code so it compiles and runs again
18:52.52dcordeshtc-msm isn't so clean anyway...
18:53.00gingeI was just getting the sdio wifi clocks initialised
18:53.21dcordes:) you're too fast
18:54.26gingeit's all pretty much the same code, just got to put the right values in the right places and it should initialise the sdio port. It probably wont work because we don't havea working wifi driver... do we?
18:54.44Zooloocginge, you furious coder
18:57.59dcordesginge: acx100!
18:58.14gingeI thought it didnt work in our kernel
18:58.51loxo51ginge u work on what????
18:59.07dcordesokias and pH5 were referring to the acx driver for the new mac80211 stack. with the old standard wifi stack it should be ok
18:59.13gingeloxo51: kaiser
18:59.26loxo51ok :)
19:00.38dcordesbummer, I can't find the exact kaiser wifi tnetw1251 on http://acx100.sourceforge.net/matrix.html
19:01.26dcordescr2: ping?
19:01.54dcordescr2: can you help us with tnetw1251 driver?
19:04.39dcordesbbl
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19:22.15cr2dcordes: Last update: Mar 06, 2006
19:26.39cr2Marex: nokia sucks, and nokia cpus suck ;)
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19:33.39Marexcr2: iMX is freescale, not nokia
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20:28.03dcordescr2: what about Mar 06, 2006?
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20:51.30cr2dcordes: the page you have linked.
20:51.56cr2dcordes: 1251 is the newest chipset. the older one was 1250.
20:55.19dcordes_ok
20:55.41dcordes_I have seen in the xda forum that also wizard has that chip
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21:43.00gingedcordes_: you wanna try this sd zimage?
21:43.49gingeseems quite stable now
21:46.54gingeMarajin: do you fancy testing SD, and what size SD card do you have
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22:18.20dcordes_ginge: yes yes. where can I get it?
22:18.36gingedcordes_: doh its half broken again now ;)
22:19.53gingehttp://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/zImage It won't go into high speed mode but it works
22:20.48ginge"mknod /dev/mmc b 179 partition_number" then mount it
22:21.01gingeit takes ages to do anything, it hasn't crashed ;)
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22:45.25cr2hahaha. i enjoy editing OSM :)
22:45.33gingeOSM?
22:46.07dcordes_open street map I guess
22:46.46cr2ginge: http://openstreetmap.org
22:47.09gingegotcha. I saw a lecture about that a while ago. good stuff
22:47.19cr2dcordes_: it's nice to work against google -> http://www.faz.net/s/Rub1DABC609A05048D997A5F315BF55A001/Doc~ED445AFC8C79C4AB3B2CD0007410724BF~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html
22:47.41dcordes_cr2: no we can boot 8gb qtopia images on kaiser ;)
22:47.53dcordes_can qlandkarte process OSM?
22:47.57cr2dcordes_: now ?
22:48.12dcordes_yes, s/no/now/
22:48.21cr2dcordes_: yes, but imho roadmap is a better app for osm.
22:48.34cr2nice. so SD is working now ?
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22:48.44gingecr2: yes
22:49.05cr2dcordes_: GT could stitch the osm tiles some time before, but you'd ask kiozen about it.
22:49.31cr2ginge: great. so that's why dcordes_ askes about acx100 ?
22:50.01dcordes_yes
22:50.14gingecr2: yes, I coded the wireless clocks in and it seems to be initialised, but I guess we need a driver
22:50.43cr2dcordes_: it's possible to stitch with GIS tools, but it requires too much knowledge and experience. btw, you can 'export' areas at osm website. but i've never tried it.
22:50.58cr2ginge: afair i've documented all gpios.
22:51.15dcordes_cr2: I will read a bit about osm later
22:51.21gingecr2: I found a couple you missed ;)
22:51.34cr2ginge: diff ? :D
22:51.36gingecr2: egpios so i wil let you off
22:51.44cr2ok.
22:51.54cr2you mean cpld gpios ?
22:52.28gingeyes
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22:52.52gingei really wish we had an IRQ for that thing. I still can't believe it doesn;t have one
22:53.24cr2there must be.
22:53.51gingei traced the whole damn thing and I cant see it. its not on a gpio that I can see
22:53.52BabelOcr2: look at your email :)
22:54.11gingebut then again I have been reverse engineering pdas for about 3 weeks now ;)
22:54.25gingeI know nearly nothing about haret
22:55.19gingecr2: I need to check out a clean branch to do the diff. instructions?
22:56.02cr2BabelO: lol. they transmit bw pics ?
22:56.50BabelOcr2: it is fax on 4.6082 Khz BLu mode :) i was not looking for this station, but like the map :)
22:56.51cr2ginge: no, i was just curious which gpios you found. i thought that i've entered everything i found in the SPL
22:57.09cr2BabelO: :)
22:57.30gingecr2: pendown and penup gpio on the cpld last two bits of the other keyboard stuff iirs
22:57.35ginges/iirs/iirc/
22:58.17gingedcordes put it in the wiki
22:59.05cr2ginge: i thought you found more wifi gpios
22:59.25cr2ginge: there are some more evil things going on kaiser
22:59.26gingeno wifi ones, sorry
22:59.39gingethis msm sure is evil
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22:59.53cr2ginge: the bitbang spi on  H2W
23:00.09gingebitbanged spi?!?
23:00.15cr2yes.
23:00.20gingewtf?
23:00.27dcordes_:D
23:00.39dcordes_truely a funny term
23:00.42cr2i'm not quite sure what they do exactly.
23:02.28excodo you know if Magician uses the same AT commands as Alpine Blue Abgel /?
23:02.41exco*Angel
23:03.46cr2exco: they may be a bit different for weird device-specific commands. but it's the same omap ti calypso chipset. also used by moko.
23:06.42excoso does on your Alpine work the OM Dialer / Messaging / signal strenght ...?
23:07.04cr2i don't have alpine.
23:07.14exco*strength
23:07.32excoBlue Abgel?
23:07.51cr2exco: if you'll set/get the gpios right on alpine it should work, imho.
23:08.17cr2exco: i've sent my ba to pH5
23:08.18excowants to get it working on Magician
23:12.19excocr2, but then this should also work for Magician, not?
23:13.02cr2yes, it should
23:13.18cr2but i have no clue about moko
23:26.26gingeokay, fixed the clock. We now go into high speed mode in sd
23:26.58gingedcordes_:  updated on the same url
23:28.11dcordes_ok
23:31.54gingedcordes_: you got a link for how to grab a clean git please?
23:37.02dcordes_ginge: git clone git://git.linuxtogo.org/home/groups/mobile-linux/kernel.git && git checkout -b htc-msm origin/htc-msm
23:38.32gingethanks
23:39.39gingeright, now that works, I had an inspiration about the touchscreen...
23:46.43Marajinginge: how's it going man?
23:46.53gingeMarajin: cool, you?
23:47.00Marajinginge: Not bad at all :)
23:47.04gingeMarajin: we got SD going :)
23:47.28Marajinginge: Shall I fellate you now ? :p
23:47.35gingegrim dude
23:47.47Marajingrow a sense of humour :P
23:47.54Marajinbut really, awesome news :)
23:47.55gingeI am still laughing :)
23:48.17*** join/#htc-linux dcordes (n=dcordes@unaffiliated/dcordes)
23:48.32Marajindcordes: We have to give ginge free sex from now on
23:48.51gingeI think it's only fair we give a large portion of credit to premy too.
23:49.13Marajinginge: Fine, I'll do you, dcordes can do premy ;)
23:49.25gingelol
23:50.40Marajinhow about sdio?
23:50.53gingewell, I dunno about that
23:51.14gingeit initialises, sees the device, fails on something Idon't understand yet and gives up
23:51.38Marajininteresting
23:51.40gingethe device I am assuming is going to be with the wireless chipset
23:51.47Marajinstill we have SD :D
23:52.00Marajinunlimited image size, persistent file system, JOY!
23:52.10gingeI only tested it on my 2GB card anyone got a massive one ;)
23:52.14MarajinI got a 4
23:52.24gingefancy trying it?
23:52.30dcordeshas 1gb only :((
23:52.44Marajinis the pope a double for darth maul ?
23:52.44dcordesI will get a 4 or 6 one tomorrow
23:52.50Marajiner
23:52.56gingelol wtf?
23:52.58dcordeshaha
23:52.59gingehttp://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/zImage
23:54.28dcordesginge: did you update it again?
23:54.34gingeyes
23:54.38gingeminor change
23:54.48gingenow up to 24MHZ and stable
23:55.05gingeI think thats as far as we can go
23:56.40Marajinginge: Booting it..
23:56.54gingeyou will have to read the backlog to see how to access it
23:57.15Marajinit says SDHC card found
23:57.41gingeis it a 1 partition fat ?
23:58.42Marajinyep
23:58.59Marajinmknod /dev/mmc b 179 1 ?
23:59.12gingeno more like mknod /dev/mmcyousuck0 b 179 1
23:59.44Marajinmmcyousuck ? :p
23:59.47ginge;)

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