| 00:09.23 | StyleWarz | re |
| 00:33.26 | dcordes_ | hello |
| 00:33.40 | dcordes_ | any kaiser up in this? |
| 00:33.54 | matsuu | hi |
| 00:34.49 | dcordes_ | ~ping ginge |
| 00:34.50 | apt | pong ginge |
| 00:34.58 | dcordes_ | ~ping marajin |
| 00:34.59 | apt | pong marajin |
| 00:35.07 | matsuu | dcordes_: I created a patch for http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/android-data.bin |
| 00:35.49 | dcordes_ | are you the kaiser guy from the forum who had da japanese provider? |
| 00:36.01 | matsuu | yup |
| 00:36.09 | dcordes_ | you should talk to ginge |
| 00:36.18 | matsuu | ok |
| 00:36.25 | dcordes_ | he made the patches in the android initrd |
| 00:36.35 | dcordes_ | ie setupmodem.sh and init* |
| 00:36.43 | dcordes_ | he has the rild code |
| 00:37.52 | dcordes_ | matsuu: do you have knowledge about linux kernel development |
| 00:38.32 | matsuu | no. sorry i have no skill |
| 00:38.48 | miknix | dcordes: hey |
| 00:38.55 | dcordes | hi miknix |
| 00:39.05 | miknix | what device are you working on? |
| 00:39.12 | dcordes | kaiser |
| 00:39.24 | dcordes | htc suprbock |
| 00:40.27 | miknix | ? |
| 00:46.32 | dcordes | miknix: are you in portugal? |
| 00:46.51 | miknix | dcordes: oh, my bad |
| 00:46.57 | miknix | now I remember : ) |
| 00:47.09 | dcordes | :P |
| 00:48.25 | dcordes | matsuu: is gprs stable on your kaiser in android? |
| 00:48.36 | miknix | they launched another type of beer.. its supposed to be a "high pressure" tap beer but in a glass botle. : ) |
| 00:49.06 | dcordes | wtf? hight pressure? |
| 00:49.30 | miknix | yeah.. like the one taken from tap ? |
| 00:49.50 | miknix | dont know how you call it |
| 00:50.20 | dcordes | maybe I just drank too much of greek liquor and german lager |
| 00:50.39 | miknix | :) |
| 00:51.08 | miknix | talking in liquor.. |
| 00:51.13 | miknix | gets beer |
| 00:52.45 | matsuu | dcordes: yes. it always works! |
| 00:52.59 | Marex | matsuu: are you japaneese ? Im just curious |
| 00:53.33 | matsuu | dcordes: I create a new patch. perhaps it works on many carriers. |
| 00:54.13 | matsuu | Marex: yes. i am jap!!1 |
| 00:54.24 | Marex | cool :) |
| 00:55.12 | dcordes | matsuu: are you patching against the android.bin rootfs? |
| 00:55.25 | dcordes | miknix: cheers |
| 00:55.33 | matsuu | dcordes: yup |
| 00:55.51 | dcordes | matsuu: this file is created by dzo in this channel |
| 00:56.25 | dcordes | it is basically the 'stock' google android emulator image plus dzo's rild binary |
| 00:56.47 | dcordes | he reversed the whole ril blob |
| 00:57.13 | dcordes | and is the person who enabled the htc msm devices to boot at all |
| 00:57.49 | matsuu | new patch need to remove rild binary. it works with libreference-ril-original.so |
| 00:58.10 | dcordes | I see |
| 00:58.16 | dcordes | where can I get the original image? |
| 00:58.43 | Marex | woohoo ... finally |
| 00:59.06 | matsuu | original image? |
| 00:59.17 | Marex | has really kawaii independent ucb1400 touchscreen driver + even more kawaii header file for it :) |
| 00:59.27 | matsuu | my image is based on android-data.bin |
| 00:59.27 | Marex | now it handles even GPIO pins on that chip |
| 00:59.48 | matsuu | says KAWAII!!1 |
| 00:59.55 | Marex | is so damned hyperactive ... |
| 01:00.24 | Marex | matsuu: yea ;) but Im still at the begining with my japaneese ... I wont rather use it ;D |
| 01:00.39 | dcordes | matsuu: ah so you modify the ppp.sh thing? |
| 01:01.16 | matsuu | yup |
| 01:02.50 | dcordes | matsuu: ok. I don't know much about android. I only upload the files ;) |
| 01:03.14 | dcordes | matsuu: hopefully we will soon have a 7200 sd driver |
| 01:03.25 | matsuu | great!! |
| 01:04.42 | dcordes | matsuu: do you have other mobile devices? |
| 01:04.58 | matsuu | i have pxa based mobile phone |
| 01:05.18 | dcordes | htc one? |
| 01:05.35 | matsuu | no, sharp |
| 01:05.45 | matsuu | http://www.sharp.co.jp/ws/004sh/index.html |
| 01:06.46 | matsuu | it doesnt work with android. |
| 01:06.54 | dcordes | matsuu: I have seen those bricks on pdab.net |
| 01:07.22 | dcordes | pxa270 |
| 01:07.33 | dcordes | 800 x 480 |
| 01:07.52 | dcordes | do you have w-zero3? |
| 01:08.15 | matsuu | yesyesihaveyesyes |
| 01:08.46 | dcordes | okok |
| 01:08.49 | miknix | going to bed. gnight all |
| 01:09.08 | dcordes | nightey# |
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| 01:10.00 | dcordes | matsuu: do you have cdma in .co..jp? |
| 01:10.40 | matsuu | cdma? i have no cdma mobilephone. |
| 01:11.37 | matsuu | Damn matsuu! |
| 01:11.51 | dcordes | why? |
| 01:12.03 | matsuu | no reason |
| 01:13.23 | dcordes | are you really going for a pub beat off |
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| 01:20.39 | BsDaEmR | what? |
| 01:23.53 | Marex | any expert on aSoC here ? |
| 01:29.11 | CPress | Evening all |
| 02:00.27 | dcordes | CPress: evening |
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| 02:16.57 | Marex | gnight (morning 4am here) |
| 02:27.14 | CPress | it is now 9:25pm here |
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| 02:49.40 | matsuu | http://matsuu.org/android/android-data-matsuu-20080712.patch new patch |
| 02:50.48 | matsuu | http://matsuu.org/android/android-data.bin-20080712.zip my image |
| 03:03.51 | dcordes | matsuu: what does your patch do? |
| 03:04.15 | matsuu | its for android-data.bin |
| 03:04.46 | matsuu | perhaps, ppp works on many carriers. |
| 03:08.32 | dcordes | ok cool probably post on xda devs |
| 03:08.46 | matsuu | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2396646&postcount=629 |
| 03:09.31 | dcordes | matsuu: what about vf germany :///(( |
| 03:09.53 | dcordes | web.vodafone.de someusername somepassword |
| 03:10.20 | matsuu | whats the name of carrier? |
| 03:10.32 | matsuu | ah, vf germany |
| 03:11.59 | matsuu | not supported as default :( |
| 03:14.11 | dcordes | I think it's easier setting the login data manually using cmdline |
| 03:14.32 | matsuu | yup like emobile |
| 03:15.59 | dcordes | ok cool |
| 03:16.25 | dcordes | good day |
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| 03:32.26 | Computerpress | matsuu, should we use your zImage-2008-07-07? |
| 03:35.29 | matsuu | no need my zImage. it works with http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/zImage.bin |
| 03:35.46 | Computerpress | alrighty |
| 03:35.55 | Computerpress | does this till have the freezing plague? |
| 03:37.05 | matsuu | yes FREEZE EVERYTIME EVERYWHERE :) |
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| 03:38.51 | Computerpress | ? |
| 03:41.16 | Computerpress | Wow, Matsuu. This is a nice image. |
| 03:41.36 | Computerpress | Data is working, Call is working. Just now waiting on SMS to see if that's working |
| 03:44.43 | Computerpress | Sms is working also |
| 03:48.54 | Computerpress | Well, atleast as it crashes, it just reboots.. |
| 03:50.18 | matsuu | its time i have to go out. bye |
| 03:51.12 | Computerpress | Later |
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| 07:28.30 | reboot992 | anyone knows a good messaging app for openmoko? |
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| 08:21.58 | reboot631 | hi iguy's |
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| 08:23.12 | Foxdie | cr2: any news on universal linux development these days? :) |
| 08:23.28 | reboot631 | nope |
| 08:25.46 | Foxdie | are you cr2? :P |
| 08:35.49 | reboot631 | who? |
| 08:36.54 | Foxdie | you, you said "nope" to my question to cr2 |
| 08:37.02 | reboot631 | oh lol soz |
| 08:37.08 | reboot631 | didn't saw the cr2 |
| 08:37.14 | Foxdie | :) np |
| 08:37.33 | reboot631 | u got a magician to? |
| 08:38.15 | Foxdie | erm... like I said before, "Universal" ;) |
| 08:38.22 | Foxdie | aka jasjar, mda pro, xda exec |
| 08:38.35 | reboot631 | lol |
| 08:38.40 | reboot631 | u helped me before right? |
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| 09:08.55 | reboot208 | anyone here got a good working linux for htc magician :) |
| 09:09.03 | reboot208 | got openmoko atm but cant use text messaging |
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| 09:28.49 | reboot898 | how i get all rights on my sdcard again? |
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| 10:13.15 | reboot662 | can someone send me a good working image for a htc magician? |
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| 10:35.13 | reboot662 | anyone here actually? :) |
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| 11:16.15 | ginge | morning |
| 11:16.48 | dcordes | morning ginge |
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| 11:30.26 | ginge | dcordes: hmm interesting... have you seem the kasier forum today? |
| 11:31.01 | ginge | tmausuu has put an interesting diff up that does away with the manual ppp and uses googles ril driver |
| 11:31.43 | ginge | what network are you all on, I am going to build a new image with my carrier codes in, I will do anyone elses while I am at it |
| 11:32.21 | dcordes | ginge: I spoke to him last night |
| 11:32.46 | ginge | learn anything interesting? |
| 11:33.08 | dcordes | no not that I recall |
| 11:33.19 | dcordes | he's funny |
| 11:33.31 | dcordes | and doesn't know linux kernel |
| 11:33.35 | dcordes | he said |
| 11:34.02 | dcordes | in the forum they say everything works with his diff |
| 11:34.07 | dcordes | he usese the original ril |
| 11:34.15 | ginge | okay, just read the backlog. |
| 11:34.33 | ginge | yeah the original ril half worked for me, I am gussing my carrier code in not in the db |
| 11:34.41 | ginge | gonna try it now |
| 11:36.09 | dcordes | how does andr0id know which carrier to pick from its db? |
| 11:36.31 | dcordes | is the carrier AT number thing the id? |
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| 11:37.43 | ginge | not sure how that part works |
| 11:45.46 | dcordes | ginge: arrrrgh we need that sd |
| 11:46.00 | ginge | yeah, really |
| 11:56.10 | ginge | making progress at least. At the moment I can't seem to get the voltage data right for the init sequence |
| 11:56.31 | ginge | it does a check to make sure the voltage range is acceptable for the device, but it is always returning 0 |
| 11:57.33 | dcordes | ginge: do you see the clock being displayed as printk? |
| 11:57.42 | dcordes | mmc: clk ?Hz |
| 11:57.51 | ginge | doesnt get that far |
| 11:57.59 | ginge | oh wait, yes |
| 11:58.28 | dcordes | so does it say 0Hz or some freq? |
| 11:58.43 | ginge | some frequency |
| 11:58.48 | ginge | 2400000 iirc |
| 11:58.54 | dcordes | good |
| 11:58.55 | ginge | I can check the logs if it is important |
| 11:59.08 | dcordes | no I was just wondering if it showed something > 0 |
| 11:59.24 | dcordes | so sounds like the controllers get clock |
| 11:59.25 | ginge | yeah, we definately have a good init of the device |
| 11:59.34 | ginge | we just cant init the card |
| 11:59.35 | dcordes | are you still in a lockup situation? |
| 11:59.42 | ginge | no, no more lockups |
| 11:59.47 | dcordes | greaet |
| 11:59.55 | dcordes | something to start from |
| 12:00.04 | dcordes | do you get the DMA printks? |
| 12:00.06 | ginge | I got the card detection and auto init code working too |
| 12:00.28 | ginge | dcordes: I get the dma init printk, looks loke we have proper dma init too |
| 12:00.56 | dcordes | while San was still on this channel, he detailed a bit on what to do once we have it working to an extent |
| 12:01.07 | ginge | I can mail you a zimage if you want to see where I am at |
| 12:01.15 | dcordes | please |
| 12:01.30 | dcordes | I will look in the logs and see if I can find that info. |
| 12:05.28 | ginge | sent the zimage |
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| 12:09.09 | dcordes | ginge: booting |
| 12:11.03 | ginge | tmatsuu's patch didnt work, even with my proper carrier settings |
| 12:11.41 | ginge | dcordes: again, mind that camera button |
| 12:12.01 | ginge | also the keyboard is a bit jittery befause touchscreen sends random events (todo list) |
| 12:12.10 | dcordes | I'm looking throug messages now |
| 12:12.38 | ginge | search for sdcc and mmc |
| 12:12.39 | dcordes | ginge: does that cuase the strange behaviour of fn I noticed? |
| 12:12.45 | ginge | yeah |
| 12:13.18 | dcordes | looks great |
| 12:13.36 | ginge | so you can see we have full clean init now (at least thats what it looks like) |
| 12:13.46 | ginge | just the -22 on mmc init |
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| 12:14.06 | reboot011 | hi exco |
| 12:14.06 | dcordes | do you know what that error code is? |
| 12:14.07 | dcordes | -22 |
| 12:14.18 | ginge | yes |
| 12:14.30 | dcordes | what is it |
| 12:14.49 | ginge | error invalid :) |
| 12:14.56 | ginge | or EINVAL |
| 12:14.58 | reboot011 | anyone here got a clean image for htc magician? |
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| 12:17.15 | dcordes | ginge: oh that's some valid info ^^ |
| 12:18.26 | reboot011 | excoooo where are uuuuu? :-) |
| 12:22.23 | dcordes | dzo: can you give us a hand with sd on kaiser? it looks like mmc is initialized correctly and gets a valid clk. then sdio fails to initialize with error -22 |
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| 12:26.23 | ginge | dcordes: sdio.c host->ocr = mmc_select_voltage(host, ocr); always 0 |
| 12:26.44 | ginge | look like we are making the wrong voltages, but I'm not sure what we need to use |
| 12:26.49 | ginge | s/making/masking/ |
| 12:29.17 | ginge | nope, cant get the tmatsuu rom to do anything |
| 12:30.18 | ginge | dcordes: might still be setting the wrong clock for the sd somewhere. I cant trace that area in haret because it causes a lockup |
| 12:30.42 | dcordes | ginge: just a random idea on that did you try tracing smaller segments? |
| 12:31.04 | ginge | yes, I started at 1k and went down in to 1 byte |
| 12:31.20 | ginge | I am going to try again shortly |
| 12:31.36 | ginge | I might have better luck with a ptrace |
| 12:32.02 | dcordes | shrugs |
| 12:32.35 | ginge | shrugs too |
| 12:33.03 | ginge | dcordes: did you try the rmatsuu diff? |
| 12:33.21 | dcordes | no |
| 12:33.25 | reboot011 | ginge u got a magician right? |
| 12:33.38 | ginge | reboot9000: no, kaiser |
| 12:34.11 | reboot011 | dju toch |
| 12:34.24 | ginge | ? |
| 12:34.28 | dcordes | reboot011: I don't have a magician either. but what do you need to know? |
| 12:35.00 | reboot011 | i need a good working image :) i got the one from exco but i cant send text messages |
| 12:35.13 | dcordes | kernel or rootfs? |
| 12:35.36 | ginge | reboot011: I think you will be struggling to find a more complete image, but I could be wrong. Did you get the usbnet going? |
| 12:35.44 | reboot011 | kinda |
| 12:36.16 | reboot011 | i can log into my device so i got in console rob@magician but i dont get any internet on xda |
| 12:36.29 | dcordes | reboot011: didn't the moko wiki help? |
| 12:36.31 | ginge | ahh, that would be ICS related then |
| 12:36.48 | amiral_ | does the phone working ? |
| 12:37.01 | reboot011 | i can make and receive phone call's |
| 12:37.11 | reboot011 | but my text messenger doesn't start up |
| 12:37.43 | amiral_ | how the phone is workin, it's a module to discuss with gsm stack ? |
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| 12:42.41 | reboot011 | u talking to me or someone else? |
| 12:43.20 | dcordes | reboot011: I will bake you an up to date openmoko-messages2 |
| 12:43.38 | reboot011 | okay |
| 12:43.57 | dcordes | but probably it won't work. I believe the AT communication required for sms on magician is too different to how it's done on the moko |
| 12:44.42 | reboot011 | only thing to now that is trying :) |
| 12:45.49 | reboot011 | btw how do i register my name again on irc |
| 12:45.57 | ginge | dcordes: you still booted into my zimage? |
| 12:48.07 | dcordes | yep it's lying around there waiting for input |
| 12:48.18 | dcordes | ginge: |
| 12:48.44 | ginge | can ou check your logs and look for how many X you see before the ocr printk |
| 12:48.51 | ginge | or just take the card out and put it back in |
| 12:49.34 | dcordes | status is dected fine |
| 12:49.58 | dcordes | status is 1 -> 0 when you put it out |
| 12:50.12 | dcordes | 0 -> 1 when you put it back in, followed by sdio init -22 |
| 12:50.13 | ginge | you should see XXhost ocr ... how many X |
| 12:50.25 | effbiai | dcordes: have you figured a way to boot linux kernel on a niki 100 yet? :> |
| 12:50.26 | dcordes | pr0n host ^^ |
| 12:50.33 | dcordes | XXX |
| 12:50.34 | ginge | :) |
| 12:50.48 | dcordes | XXXhost ocr 0 error |
| 12:51.00 | dcordes | effbiai: no I didn't look into it further, sorry |
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| 12:51.31 | effbiai | roger that |
| 12:52.05 | Marex_N76 | Hi :) |
| 12:52.07 | dcordes | effbiai: Dismiss, soldier! |
| 12:52.17 | ginge | resealable cookie packet? what is the point in that |
| 12:52.47 | dcordes | keep em fresh |
| 12:52.59 | ginge | don't you just eat them all one after the other? |
| 12:53.02 | dcordes | also when you eat the whole of the cookies at a time |
| 12:53.08 | dcordes | because |
| 12:53.26 | dcordes | when you took out one or two and eat them you seal the packet |
| 12:53.40 | effbiai | dcordes: hehe, is it that obvious? :P |
| 12:54.09 | ginge | must be just me that is fat and greedy |
| 12:55.26 | exco | hello |
| 12:55.35 | effbiai | hi exco |
| 12:55.55 | exco | reboot011: your internet is working (you can ping google's ip) |
| 12:56.13 | exco | but dns isn't working, right? |
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| 12:57.27 | dcordes | effbiai: what do the X signify? |
| 12:57.45 | dcordes | s/effbiai/ginge/ |
| 12:57.58 | ginge | dcordes: an interrupt |
| 12:58.14 | exco | X means: treasure lies here |
| 12:58.20 | ginge | rofl |
| 12:58.33 | effbiai | haha |
| 12:58.41 | effbiai | digging |
| 13:00.08 | dcordes | ginge: booting kaiser image on niki, do you have any clue what might cause it to freeze? With earlier builds, it worked. |
| 13:00.23 | dcordes | something must have happened in our tree in the last months that broke it |
| 13:00.39 | ginge | dcordes: smd |
| 13:00.40 | dcordes | I thought it might be SMD but that would be odd |
| 13:00.47 | dcordes | niki is also 7200 |
| 13:01.09 | ginge | doesn't mean smd is setup for the same addresses, or even the same signalling |
| 13:01.19 | ginge | depends what firmware the a9 uses |
| 13:01.21 | dcordes | I bet the smem setup is identical, same as kaiser smd vs polaris smd |
| 13:01.40 | ginge | I bet if you comment out the smd init, it will boo |
| 13:01.41 | ginge | t |
| 13:01.51 | ginge | what is that last thing that is seen ont he console? |
| 13:02.08 | dcordes | on niki? It doesn't get out of haret |
| 13:02.16 | ginge | oh? now that is odd |
| 13:02.18 | dcordes | but it can't be fb, because it booted before.. |
| 13:02.33 | dcordes | fbi: where does it freeze? |
| 13:02.44 | dcordes | effbiai: |
| 13:02.53 | dcordes | didn't you say 3/4 in haret? |
| 13:02.55 | marajin | allo allo |
| 13:03.03 | dcordes | merhaba |
| 13:03.04 | ginge | afternoon |
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| 13:04.12 | marajin | dcordes: Are you a german-turk or something or do you just like saying merhaba? |
| 13:04.42 | ginge | mechanical-turk maybe |
| 13:05.20 | marajin | ginge: Well I'm lead to believe that turkish descent is pretty common in germany, it's a bit like indian/pakistani here. |
| 13:05.21 | dcordes | marajin: just like saying it |
| 13:07.55 | dcordes | marajin: are you a brit with paki descent? |
| 13:08.03 | dcordes | you said there live pakistani people down your road once |
| 13:08.22 | marajin | dcordes: Now that's just being ridiculous, I've also sad I have natural red hair :P |
| 13:08.29 | ginge | lol |
| 13:08.37 | marajin | dcordes: No I'm an English/Irish/Welsh/Scottish mangling of genetics. |
| 13:08.42 | ginge | as are we all |
| 13:09.06 | dcordes | ridiculous? |
| 13:09.29 | marajin | dcordes: Pakistani/indian genetics have er.. black hair or... black, or well.. black |
| 13:09.51 | dcordes | there are blond huns |
| 13:10.22 | marajin | dcordes: Er, 'huns' is an old slang for germans to us man :P |
| 13:10.34 | dcordes | mongolian sorry |
| 13:10.51 | marajin | mongolians are east asiany aren't they? O.o |
| 13:10.56 | dcordes | yes |
| 13:11.08 | marajin | Different genetic stock |
| 13:11.52 | dcordes | we are slightly offtopic |
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| 13:12.55 | dcordes | ginge: could you make a zImage with smd init disabled? |
| 13:13.06 | ginge | dcordes: did you try the camera button on my zimage? |
| 13:13.07 | dcordes | I broke my tree |
| 13:13.11 | dcordes | nope |
| 13:13.15 | ginge | dcordes: I guess, but my tree is fucked |
| 13:14.20 | marajin | More than slightly off topic. Camera button, still working on ts calibration? |
| 13:14.29 | dcordes | ginge: is that what it's supposed to do? press once=bring up OSkeyboard, press twice=bring up calibration info? |
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| 13:17.57 | dcordes | ah holding it down constantly prints the ts coords |
| 13:18.09 | ginge | yeah, if you press constantly and touch the screen it will calirte |
| 13:18.29 | ginge | kinda |
| 13:18.31 | dcordes | how does calibrating work? Just tap around on the screen? |
| 13:18.56 | ginge | tap each corner while pressing down |
| 13:19.24 | ginge | it is still badly out of alignment, but nearly there |
| 13:19.31 | dcordes | ok let me try |
| 13:19.43 | ginge | just fun :) |
| 13:20.17 | ginge | I considered scrapping using a wm at all, and changing the framebuffer keyboard as a dial pad :) |
| 13:20.48 | marajin | ha |
| 13:20.51 | marajin | console phone? |
| 13:20.53 | ginge | yeah |
| 13:20.58 | ginge | ultimate dream |
| 13:21.03 | marajin | that'd fuck people up :P |
| 13:21.05 | ginge | lol |
| 13:21.14 | marajin | "Can I just borrow your phone? ...er...how the fuck do you..whaaat?" |
| 13:21.29 | dcordes | bwahaha |
| 13:21.55 | dcordes | console phone from hell |
| 13:22.15 | ginge | that would be awesome. Its the geeks dream phone |
| 13:22.28 | dcordes | just use openmoko |
| 13:23.03 | ginge | sendtext <phone number> <message> <text> |
| 13:23.03 | ginge | phone <phone number> <speaker|earhone|headset> |
| 13:23.03 | ginge | etc |
| 13:23.18 | dcordes | it gives you the same accesibillity as angstrom and I hope at some point will have android's usabillity |
| 13:24.09 | reboot011 | back |
| 13:24.17 | reboot011 | sorry had alot customer's in store :) |
| 13:25.29 | dcordes | ginge: does fbcon rotate constitue a problem for the calibration process? |
| 13:25.41 | ginge | dcordes: almost certainly |
| 13:25.46 | ginge | never tried |
| 13:25.50 | dcordes | k booting w/o it |
| 13:27.33 | dcordes | ginge: is there a special order in which you are to tap the corners? |
| 13:27.40 | ginge | no |
| 13:28.02 | dcordes | and the fb keyboard is up when you calibrate, right? |
| 13:28.08 | ginge | yeah |
| 13:28.16 | ginge | you should see shitloads of output when calibrating |
| 13:28.27 | dcordes | I do |
| 13:28.46 | dcordes | but it doesn't quite work for me |
| 13:29.55 | dcordes | so you press down the camera button twice, the calibration output flows and the fb keyboard on top of it (at the bottom), then you tap all corners once and ? |
| 13:30.07 | ginge | this is what I do |
| 13:30.23 | ginge | I press the camera button twice, holding on the second and tap a corner |
| 13:30.33 | ginge | let go of the button, and repeat for all others |
| 13:31.01 | ginge | I woudn't spend too much time messing with it as it is very broken |
| 13:31.46 | dcordes | I just wanna use the fb kbd since it's fun |
| 13:32.28 | ginge | doesnt sent input yet |
| 13:32.56 | ginge | looks nice tho :) |
| 13:33.03 | dcordes | ginge: do you get a huge offset on y to the top? |
| 13:33.15 | ginge | yeah, that is mainly the problem |
| 13:33.22 | dcordes | ok |
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| 14:00.22 | ginge | gtg bbl |
| 14:02.49 | marajin | see ya ginge |
| 14:04.15 | dcordes | cya |
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| 14:38.06 | CPress | Morning All. |
| 14:47.01 | marajin | Morning CPress |
| 14:51.42 | CPress | Whats new in the IRC world? |
| 14:57.14 | evildarknight | sorry where can i get haret kernel and gpe userland for magician plz? no link on xda |
| 15:20.59 | dcordes | bbl |
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| 15:47.33 | marajin | ginge: Ncurses based dialer would be perhaps best? |
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| 16:06.36 | dcordes | marajin: know a very simple ncurses program? |
| 16:17.46 | marajin | dcordes: Um, simple? no, I know a fair fewncurses programs bu they're like irssi and centericq and stuff |
| 16:19.25 | marajin | surely you can find ncurses tutrial programs online though? |
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| 17:31.09 | ginge | marajin: probably |
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| 17:31.32 | ginge | /hides |
| 17:31.32 | reboot404 | hiya guy's |
| 17:31.46 | ginge | hi reboot |
| 17:31.46 | exco_ | hi, reboot404 |
| 17:32.06 | reboot404 | can we start all over again with my sd card clean install? :) no image |
| 17:32.17 | reboot404 | or another image |
| 17:32.19 | exco | of course |
| 17:32.40 | reboot404 | i cant set my time or anything on ur image :p |
| 17:33.14 | ginge | marajin, dcordes: I just traced the code back, and we are failing on the initial read of the card |
| 17:34.03 | exco | don't know if you can with another image but just try ... and you can always come back to using this one very quickly |
| 17:34.18 | reboot404 | u got another image? |
| 17:34.32 | exco | dozens |
| 17:34.51 | reboot404 | :o |
| 17:34.54 | reboot404 | for magician |
| 17:35.24 | exco | but basically they're just the ones provided here : |
| 17:35.26 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.26 | exco | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/ |
| 17:35.26 | exco | Angstrom |
| 17:35.26 | exco | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 17:35.40 | reboot404 | wich one we try first? |
| 17:35.46 | reboot404 | xD |
| 17:35.50 | exco | with minor modifications |
| 17:36.07 | reboot404 | hw u mean? |
| 17:36.45 | exco | well I wanted to put up my experiences / differences ... but I'm not ready and the arm doesn't help |
| 17:38.20 | effbiai | dcordes: did ya figure out if it was the smd witch was the cause for niki 100 to freeze? |
| 17:38.28 | exco | since my wireless runs in x.x.2.x I modified the ip's for usb and tried lots of stuff just to get to know ... and learn about linux in general |
| 17:39.04 | reboot404 | dont understand actually |
| 17:39.26 | exco | afaik the OpenMoko = OM image is the only one with GSM support so I'd stick to that |
| 17:39.42 | reboot404 | so it will be openmoko |
| 17:39.43 | exco | specify |
| 17:40.11 | reboot404 | but maybe it work's if i install the openmoko from the website? |
| 17:41.07 | exco | but earlier I read up on logs for this channel and ph5 stated that qtopia works also on Magician with GSM - I never got it to work though |
| 17:41.25 | exco | yes, that definitely works, |
| 17:41.44 | reboot404 | so maybe if i use that image my messaging work's to |
| 17:41.57 | reboot404 | what version of pda u got again? |
| 17:42.13 | exco | but it's not different from the file I sent you (apart from different IP settins for USB=) |
| 17:42.35 | exco | XDA Mini aka HTC Magician |
| 17:42.48 | reboot404 | the qtek s100 is that right? |
| 17:42.52 | exco | yes |
| 17:43.09 | reboot404 | http://linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcuniversal/index.html over here u can get opie and things to |
| 17:43.16 | tcccp | http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1822437 |
| 17:43.25 | tcccp | :) |
| 17:43.48 | exco | :-) |
| 17:44.22 | exco | yes but those are for Universal |
| 17:44.45 | reboot404 | universal is not all of the htc pda's? |
| 17:44.56 | reboot404 | ant tcccp nice vid |
| 17:44.58 | exco | which is similar to Magician but not identical |
| 17:45.15 | reboot404 | so they wont work anyway? |
| 17:45.18 | exco | http://images.google.de/images?q=htc%20universal&ie=UTF-8&oe=utf-8&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi |
| 17:46.01 | reboot404 | a whole other model :) |
| 17:46.06 | exco | universial != |
| 17:46.09 | exco | shhh |
| 17:46.12 | exco | yes |
| 17:46.16 | reboot404 | k |
| 17:46.31 | reboot404 | on ur magician u cant use messaging either? |
| 17:47.13 | exco | I don't know and I can't test atm because it broke when that car hit me :-( |
| 17:47.24 | reboot404 | ow |
| 17:48.01 | reboot404 | do u maybe know what the white bar is i sometimes get? when i tap it it's gone |
| 17:48.15 | exco | it's not completely dead but doesn't recognize batteries anymore |
| 17:48.31 | exco | yes, those are status msg |
| 17:48.46 | reboot404 | u normally see some text in them or something? |
| 17:49.02 | exco | yes, but |
| 17:49.19 | reboot404 | not working at magician? :) |
| 17:49.25 | exco | there seems to be a problem related to vga -> qvga |
| 17:49.39 | reboot404 | i use qvga |
| 17:49.47 | reboot404 | dont know how to change to vga |
| 17:50.01 | exco | yes but OM -> vga |
| 17:50.15 | exco | you can't change, it's native |
| 17:50.26 | reboot404 | so i cant use is qvga? |
| 17:50.41 | reboot404 | and euhm think something is wrong with my openmoko ;) |
| 17:50.47 | reboot404 | doesnt boot anymore |
| 17:50.51 | reboot404 | getting error line |
| 17:51.06 | reboot404 | could u send me that image of u again? |
| 17:51.25 | exco | I suspect you removed it from your ubuntu without unmounting |
| 17:51.31 | reboot404 | oh ye :) |
| 17:51.35 | reboot404 | always forget that |
| 17:51.58 | exco | I only know because I had to learn the hard way |
| 17:52.29 | reboot404 | all by urself? |
| 17:52.56 | exco | paulproteus was so kind to help me out a lot |
| 17:53.15 | reboot404 | :) |
| 17:53.29 | exco | you can read my first exp. in the logs |
| 17:53.39 | reboot404 | i'm extreemly happy that u help me :) |
| 17:54.15 | reboot404 | k openmoko boot's again :) |
| 17:54.26 | exco | I'm trying, but I'm not that experienced with Linux |
| 17:54.45 | paulproteus | exco, Morning. |
| 17:55.01 | exco | good evening, paulproteus |
| 17:55.10 | exco | long time no see |
| 17:55.24 | exco | what did you do, reboot404? |
| 17:55.26 | reboot404 | where should i normally be able to change time and date of device? |
| 17:55.46 | reboot404 | euhm i plugged it into computer and then unmounted it and plugged back in :) |
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| 17:56.18 | reboot404 | paulproteus u got magician to? |
| 17:56.56 | paulproteus | reboot404, Yup |
| 17:57.59 | reboot404 | can u help me together with exco maybe :) |
| 17:58.10 | exco | I wanted to ask you way earlier if you could "repair" my login to the OM build server... but got carried away by so many thins, paulproteus |
| 17:58.47 | reboot404 | http://poh9.blogspot.com/2007/03/openmoko-dialer-ngstrm-magician.html check this one maybe a solution? |
| 17:59.43 | exco | reboot404: I don't know about changing time, but it should be somewhere in settings menu? I suspect ... how about http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Main_Page |
| 18:00.27 | reboot404 | i cant find any settings menu that's the biggest problem |
| 18:01.09 | reboot404 | settings must be on the right bottom right? |
| 18:01.15 | reboot404 | those 3 teethweel's |
| 18:01.23 | exco | well that's already integrated in your image, or can't you make phonecalls? |
| 18:02.19 | exco | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Preferences |
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| 18:03.39 | reboot404 | wait i gonna show u ppl a screenshot of my device |
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| 18:03.48 | exco | btw, reboot404: does your device change the battery indicator when plugged in? |
| 18:03.49 | reboot404 | it totally doesnt look like the ones in the guide |
| 18:03.57 | reboot404 | yes |
| 18:04.54 | exco | battery status working as well? |
| 18:05.07 | reboot404 | yes |
| 18:05.19 | reboot404 | when it's plugged in it show that it's charging |
| 18:05.35 | exco | didn't work on mine |
| 18:06.03 | reboot404 | http://i33.tinypic.com/qx75eb.png |
| 18:06.10 | reboot404 | screenshot of my interface |
| 18:06.21 | exco | yes, looks right |
| 18:06.24 | reboot404 | okay |
| 18:06.41 | reboot404 | but it look's so different |
| 18:06.45 | exco | messed up icons in status nar |
| 18:06.53 | exco | *bar |
| 18:07.18 | reboot404 | i think i'm gonna try a new image on it |
| 18:07.27 | reboot404 | could be possible it work's better |
| 18:08.04 | exco | go ahead .... well... certainly COULD |
| 18:08.41 | reboot404 | the openmoko version right? or the opie? |
| 18:08.44 | exco | you can also try different kernels (in my opinion hh20 runs way smoother) |
| 18:08.55 | exco | whatever you like |
| 18:08.57 | reboot404 | hh20 can dial? |
| 18:09.06 | exco | yes |
| 18:09.17 | reboot404 | where can i find em? |
| 18:09.58 | reboot404 | opieII/qtopia cant dial right? |
| 18:14.10 | exco | right |
| 18:14.16 | reboot404 | k |
| 18:14.26 | reboot404 | can u send me an image of hh20? |
| 18:14.30 | exco | but nice to try and see differences anyways |
| 18:14.39 | reboot404 | okay let's try :p |
| 18:14.41 | exco | trying to find the links |
| 18:14.46 | reboot404 | oh okay |
| 18:15.16 | reboot404 | hh20 work's at magician? |
| 18:15.39 | ginge | dcordes: ping |
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| 18:20.24 | rebo0t | okay nick is registered now :) |
| 18:20.28 | exco | rebo0t: trying to send |
| 18:20.38 | rebo0t | i'm reveiving the file |
| 18:20.47 | rebo0t | but maybe it goes better if i use irc client? |
| 18:21.08 | exco | what do you use atm? |
| 18:21.14 | rebo0t | web irc |
| 18:21.16 | CPress | ginge: hows it goin? |
| 18:21.22 | rebo0t | irc2go.com |
| 18:21.42 | ginge | CPress: pretty good. it's getting there slowly |
| 18:21.45 | exco | don't know if that works... I'll just put it somewhere |
| 18:21.56 | rebo0t | did it last image u send to |
| 18:22.01 | rebo0t | but downloading xchat nw |
| 18:22.49 | exco | if you want to stay with ubuntu/linux for a while ... why don't you try pidgeon |
| 18:22.56 | CPress | ginge: That's what I hear. What are you guys working on now? |
| 18:23.26 | ginge | CPress: I have the sd code going on at the moment, and hopefully soon we will have a calibrated touchscreen |
| 18:23.34 | rebo0t | euhm |
| 18:23.41 | rebo0t | freenode has a psw? |
| 18:24.07 | exco | no, but your nick? |
| 18:24.25 | rebo0t | i just try to connect with freenode :) |
| 18:24.26 | rebo0t | wait |
| 18:24.37 | CPress | ginge: Does the SD code work? |
| 18:25.00 | rebo0t | how can i send private message? |
| 18:25.12 | ginge | CPress: Not really yet. It detects the SD card now, but it will not read the initial configuration off the card |
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| 18:28.27 | exco | btw, is there a way to use autostart on sd card to start haret (initial win2003 setup sucks!) |
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| 18:28.54 | rebo0t | okay i'm using client now :) |
| 18:29.41 | rebo0t | failed |
| 18:30.15 | rebo0t | again :s |
| 18:30.21 | rebo0t | i do somthing wrong |
| 18:30.24 | rebo0t | ? |
| 18:41.26 | CPress | tubes clogged? |
| 18:46.31 | diogene31_ | Kevin2: ping |
| 18:49.23 | dcordes | hi |
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| 18:49.54 | CPress | Hello |
| 18:50.02 | dcordes | ginge: pong |
| 18:50.26 | ginge | you had a conversation on irc months ago about the "raven patch" what was that all about? |
| 18:50.51 | dcordes | that were the initial patches with the dzo code |
| 18:51.10 | dcordes | there is a guy raven coda who put together a few driver improvements and the dzo stuff |
| 18:51.25 | ginge | anything worth looking at? |
| 18:51.37 | dcordes | when we didn't have the tree yet. during that time I played around with sd |
| 18:51.52 | dcordes | but I didn't get further than you. only had the clock up and everything else failed, dma errors and stuff |
| 18:51.58 | dcordes | can't recall in detail |
| 18:54.13 | dcordes | ginge: so I guess it's not really worth looking |
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| 18:54.20 | ginge | ok |
| 18:56.35 | dcordes | pH5: I have a question about git. some time ago you said it's not neccessarry to clone the whole tree. how can I only clone the relevant htc-msm stuff? |
| 18:56.49 | dcordes | (in order to save some bandwidths and time) |
| 18:58.40 | pH5 | dcordes: init an empty git repo, and then add a remote with the -t option to limit to certain branches |
| 19:06.15 | CPress | Has anyone tried to open the Kaiser to see what chips are in it? |
| 19:06.35 | dcordes | pH5: hm ok. I will look at that |
| 19:06.55 | dcordes | CPress: yes harald welte openned it. cr2 has high resolution photos |
| 19:08.12 | CPress | Where are they located? |
| 19:08.41 | dcordes | CPress: you must ask cr2 |
| 19:08.53 | CPress | cr2: ping? |
| 19:09.46 | dcordes | I'd also like them |
| 19:10.24 | ginge | snap |
| 19:10.49 | dcordes | I wonder why laf0rge didn't publish them on his blog as he announced when he got the kaiser |
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| 19:20.07 | CPress | is this the post you guys are refering to? |
| 19:20.07 | CPress | http://gnumonks.org/~laforge/weblog/2007/12/13#20071213-htc_tytn_kaiser |
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| 19:32.48 | MrBIOS_ | anyone around? |
| 19:33.18 | CPress | I am. |
| 19:35.13 | Kevin2 | diogene31_: pong |
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| 19:41.50 | dcordes | CPress: yese this is the post I was referring to |
| 19:41.58 | CPress | Alrighty. |
| 19:42.39 | dcordes | let me know if cr2 give the photos to you ;) |
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| 19:50.31 | CPress | Alrighty |
| 19:52.12 | dcordes | effbiai: building the non-smd kernel now |
| 19:56.39 | exco | pH5: do you still work on Magician? |
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| 19:57.39 | pH5 | exco: sure, still trying hard to push it into mainline properly. |
| 20:02.12 | exco | the image paulproteus and I tried late mid May didn't work |
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| 20:06.24 | exco | or we couldn't get it to work ... stuck at screen calibration and the output of touchscreen seemed wrong compared to working builds |
| 20:10.25 | rebo0t | can i do something about the download speed of my distru upgrade of ubuntu? |
| 20:13.54 | pH5 | exco: that's a userspace issue, I'm still firmly stuck in kernel land :/ |
| 20:14.13 | pH5 | the touchscreen driver isn't even ported yet to 2.6.26 |
| 20:14.56 | exco | does OM already use 26? |
| 20:15.35 | pH5 | exco: OM as in the openmoko magician image that you tried? no. |
| 20:16.12 | pH5 | that's 2.6.21-hh<something> |
| 20:16.21 | exco | the one we built still used 2.6.21-hh20-r20 |
| 20:16.48 | pH5 | yes, that one. |
| 20:16.59 | exco | good to hear that you still work on it |
| 20:18.06 | exco | pH5: did you get the dialer to work with qtopia or just GSM using console (read earlier in the logs you managed qtopia and GSM) |
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| 20:19.56 | pH5 | no, I've never tried qtopia. I've made calls with both gomunicator and the OM 2007.1 dialer, but both were very buggy. |
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| 20:20.27 | pH5 | at the time. |
| 20:21.02 | rebo0t | pH5, can u sent text messages with openmoko at magician? |
| 20:21.03 | exco | your Dec 07 image works with GSM |
| 20:21.29 | exco | no status bars no SMS though |
| 20:21.41 | pH5 | now I'm think trying to get openmoko's fso-image to work on the magician might be worthwile, but I don't see me finding time to work on that anytime soon. |
| 20:22.02 | exco | only 24h/day... |
| 20:22.04 | pH5 | never tried sms other than sending a raw pdu via console |
| 20:22.51 | rebo0t | damn :) still no solution why my messaging program closes automatically :p |
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| 20:38.17 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
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| 20:46.54 | cr2 | kiozen: ? |
| 20:47.10 | kiozen | cr2: is there a way to debounce the keys? |
| 20:48.08 | cr2 | dcordes: the kaiser pics are about 150MB, i can upload them somewhere. but first i need to fins them ;) |
| 20:48.30 | cr2 | kiozen: the gpio keys ? don't know. |
| 20:48.52 | dcordes | cr2: that would be nice. you could put them on linuxtogo |
| 20:49.01 | cr2 | kiozen: to read the vbat, it's necessary to set 3 cpld gpios. there are 2 combinations.. |
| 20:49.08 | cr2 | dcordes: how ? |
| 20:49.16 | dcordes | ssh? |
| 20:49.26 | kiozen | cr2: would be nice as the keys aren't realy good |
| 20:50.00 | kiozen | cr2: another thing is the key repeat frequency if you hold down the key, I would like to make it slower |
| 20:50.08 | cr2 | kiozen: if it's the pxa27x_kayboard, you can change some params. |
| 20:51.19 | cr2 | kiozen: hm. n560 uses pxa27x_keyboard. |
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| 20:51.29 | cr2 | so it's not gpio keys. |
| 20:51.51 | cr2 | dcordes: i don#t have ssh login there. |
| 20:52.05 | Marex | pH5: hi |
| 20:52.29 | Marex | pH5: can I ask you some (read: a lot of) questions about gpiolib ? |
| 20:52.39 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/snapshot1.png |
| 20:53.42 | cr2 | kiozen: wow :) |
| 20:53.58 | kiozen | I made the buttons larger |
| 20:54.11 | kiozen | easier to handle with a touchscreen |
| 20:54.11 | cr2 | -> config option ? |
| 20:54.29 | cr2 | yes, with the finger. |
| 20:54.48 | kiozen | hm, na, let's keep config small and start with sensible values |
| 20:55.13 | cr2 | ok |
| 20:56.05 | kiozen | but that repeat frequency and the debouncing would help a lot |
| 20:56.57 | kiozen | and I am still not convinced that switching off the lcd, really switches it off |
| 20:57.32 | kiozen | the screen will have blck and white stripes, and sometimes these fade off |
| 20:57.36 | cr2 | the gpio pin settings are logged |
| 20:58.11 | kiozen | but sometimes these are stable |
| 20:58.28 | kiozen | is that normal for a lcd that looses power? |
| 20:58.46 | MrBIOS_ | how goes, folks? |
| 20:58.55 | kiozen | think the fading off is, but the stable condition? |
| 20:59.05 | dcordes | hi MrBIOS_ |
| 20:59.09 | cr2 | kiozen: it's strange. |
| 20:59.30 | kiozen | cr2: yes that is why I am not convinced |
| 20:59.36 | MrBIOS_ | I just got android running on my Tilt |
| 20:59.43 | MrBIOS_ | although it's extremely crashhappy |
| 20:59.50 | kiozen | the commands seem to be sent |
| 21:00.29 | dcordes | MrBIOS_: you must use the ginge initrd |
| 21:00.41 | MrBIOS_ | ginge? |
| 21:00.46 | MrBIOS_ | URL? |
| 21:00.49 | dcordes | ask ginge |
| 21:00.57 | ginge | yo. what we looking for? |
| 21:01.03 | MrBIOS_ | your initrd :) |
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| 21:01.36 | ginge | erm, okay... it will probably crash |
| 21:01.48 | MrBIOS_ | well it's already doing that rather splendidly itself :) |
| 21:02.02 | ginge | lol well good luck http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/initrd-android.cpio.gz |
| 21:02.36 | MrBIOS_ | ah ginge do you have the source anywhere? |
| 21:02.50 | ginge | erm, no its not available |
| 21:02.53 | MrBIOS_ | ok |
| 21:03.02 | ginge | i.e google haven't released it |
| 21:03.35 | MrBIOS_ | how did you assemble your initrd? that's what I was referring to |
| 21:03.38 | kiozen | cr2: anything I can to for the battery monitor? |
| 21:03.50 | MrBIOS_ | I'm aware, I have friends who work in the google mobile division |
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| 21:05.15 | ginge | MrBIOS_: I didn't. I think this came from dzo originally. I just put some patches in it |
| 21:05.54 | MrBIOS_ | ah ok, what'd you patch? |
| 21:06.02 | ginge | mainly the init sequence |
| 21:06.11 | MrBIOS_ | to fix? |
| 21:06.12 | ginge | if you download it you can gunxip and de-xpio it |
| 21:06.28 | ginge | to fix the fact that ppp doesn't work properly |
| 21:06.30 | pH5 | hej Marex |
| 21:06.38 | cr2 | kiozen: the bits are here-> |
| 21:06.41 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.41 | cr2 | GPIOG0 0x0001 batt |
| 21:06.41 | cr2 | GPIOG1 0x0002 batt |
| 21:07.06 | cr2 | kiozen: you may add this address to the mmutrace list. |
| 21:07.06 | ginge | mainly patching the setupmodem script to do manual ppp based on kernel command line input. the google libs should do this for us, but don't seem to work too well. |
| 21:07.14 | cr2 | kiozen: sorry. |
| 21:07.26 | cr2 | kiozen: set trace / trace2 i think. |
| 21:07.48 | MrBIOS_ | ginge: gotcha, and what do you pass to the kernel? |
| 21:08.02 | cr2 | it should be possible to trace 2 addresses simultaneously on pxa27x |
| 21:10.27 | ginge | ppp.username=username ppp.password=pass ppp.apn=accesspoint |
| 21:10.43 | dcordes | ginge: how'd I disable smd init? |
| 21:11.24 | kiozen | cr2: ok I am in haretconsole |
| 21:11.43 | kiozen | cr2: so it's : set trace GPIOG0 0x0001 batt ? |
| 21:12.38 | ginge | dcordes: its a kernel config option |
| 21:12.53 | dcordes | hm I think that didn't work but I'll retry |
| 21:13.04 | cr2 | kiozen: no, the address. |
| 21:13.16 | cr2 | kiozen: set trace p2v(...) |
| 21:13.19 | ginge | check the smd.c for #defines and make more if neede {23000000,0x20000-0xb,0xfff60079}, // WTF is this?? why??d |
| 21:13.29 | ginge | oops, sorry pasting again |
| 21:13.58 | cr2 | kiozen: the address is +0xc |
| 21:14.16 | cr2 | 0xbdb00000 0x10000000 1 CPLD |
| 21:14.28 | cr2 | p2v(0x1000000c) |
| 21:14.43 | cr2 | should be equal to 0xbdb0000c |
| 21:14.47 | dcordes | ginge: lol is that from the ril? the comment sounds familiar |
| 21:14.55 | ginge | dcordes: my comment ;) |
| 21:15.00 | ginge | from clock.c |
| 21:15.17 | rebo0t | openmoko still no vga version? |
| 21:15.28 | cr2 | kiozen: set trace2 p2v(ssp data reg that you was tracing before) |
| 21:15.31 | dcordes | oh ok |
| 21:15.32 | ginge | dcordes: return platform_driver_register(&msm_smd_driver); comment htis out and return -1 |
| 21:15.48 | cr2 | kiozen: then you'll see the cpld bit changes, and the spi data flow. |
| 21:15.52 | ginge | it will fail smd init and continue without |
| 21:16.10 | dcordes | ginge: I'm trying it with the kconfig first |
| 21:16.17 | cr2 | kiozen: dont't forget the 'ibit irqs 26 76' |
| 21:16.33 | cr2 | kiozen: to disable the TMR0 and wifi irq spam. |
| 21:17.41 | ginge | dcordes: hmm so why doesnt scp work on angstrom? |
| 21:18.04 | kiozen | cr2: http://pastebin.no/11521 |
| 21:18.10 | dcordes | ginge: didn't try yet |
| 21:19.30 | dcordes | ginge: still errors w/o kaiser smd in .config. (undefined references in gpio.c and clock.c) |
| 21:19.56 | ginge | dcordes: figures. I bet there are references to proc_comm there |
| 21:20.03 | dcordes | right |
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| 21:23.32 | cr2 | kiozen: do you see any logic in 'bdb0000c' writes ? |
| 21:24.18 | MrBIOS_ | anyonw here know what the PPP options for android/kernel would need to be for AT&T? I believe it's wap.cingular and cingularme or something |
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| 21:25.49 | kiozen | cr2: lol, no |
| 21:25.53 | cr2 | kiozen: 005565: 00287238: debug 077c5220: e1d330b0(ldrh) 00004009 00004009 |
| 21:26.01 | cr2 | kiozen: looks like some haret bug |
| 21:26.20 | cr2 | kiozen: the bit 1 is set, the bit 2 is set |
| 21:26.34 | cr2 | 7280 is written to ssp |
| 21:26.44 | cr2 | vbat value request ? |
| 21:26.56 | ginge | MrBIOS_: a quick google tells me apn=proxy user/pass blank |
| 21:27.03 | ginge | could be wrong |
| 21:27.17 | cr2 | kiozen: then something is read. should be the vbat value |
| 21:27.34 | cr2 | kiozen: then bit 1 is disabled |
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| 21:28.13 | cr2 | kiozen: then 7280 write again, followed by read. |
| 21:28.23 | cr2 | bit 1 is set again. |
| 21:28.39 | cr2 | 7280+read |
| 21:28.53 | cr2 | bit 1 off, bit 2 off |
| 21:29.07 | cr2 | 7280+read |
| 21:29.07 | dcordes | ginge: like this? |
| 21:29.12 | dcordes | return -1 |
| 21:29.15 | ginge | ; |
| 21:29.18 | ginge | yeah |
| 21:29.25 | dcordes | lol |
| 21:29.58 | cr2 | kiozen: so it's possible to ask for vbat with 3 gpio combinations: |
| 21:30.14 | cr2 | kiozen: 00, 10, 11 |
| 21:30.35 | cr2 | kiozen: are these 3 muxed different voltages ?? |
| 21:30.39 | kiozen | I am doing the trace once again, this time without powercord |
| 21:31.10 | cr2 | kiozen: with 00 we got zero voltage. it should be possible to hardcode 10 and 11 |
| 21:32.35 | kiozen | without power cord http://pastebin.no/11522 |
| 21:33.14 | cr2 | kiozen: looks the same |
| 21:33.34 | cr2 | kiozen: did you log the 'powermon' discharge curve ? |
| 21:33.36 | MrBIOS_ | ginge: is your initrd newer than the one at http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ ? |
| 21:34.01 | ginge | MrBIOS by about 2 minutes, yes ;) |
| 21:34.31 | MrBIOS_ | haha |
| 21:34.49 | kiozen | and with powercord http://pastebin.no/11523 (to make sure) |
| 21:34.52 | ginge | this one is a slightly different version of the android-bin |
| 21:35.03 | ginge | android-data.bin even |
| 21:35.25 | kiozen | cr2: yes I did powermon, but have no tools yet on my laptop to visualize |
| 21:35.57 | MrBIOS_ | ginge: the cpio you pasted? |
| 21:36.26 | cr2 | kiozen: xmgrace ? |
| 21:36.34 | rebo0t | anyone here knows how an autorun work's on windows mobile? |
| 21:36.42 | ginge | MrBIOS_: yes, it is almost the same, but has a working ppp init sequence (working for me and a couploe of others at least) |
| 21:40.19 | dcordes | ginge: did you get anything other than -22? |
| 21:40.39 | miknix | hey cr2 |
| 21:40.40 | ginge | dcordes: where? |
| 21:44.20 | MrBIOS_ | ginge: well it booted |
| 21:44.27 | MrBIOS_ | how do I go "up" a level in th android menus? |
| 21:44.50 | cr2 | dcordes: i think i've found the pics |
| 21:44.57 | ginge | MrBIOS_:press ok or red phone? |
| 21:45.10 | MrBIOS_ | no dice, does not work |
| 21:45.19 | ginge | hrm |
| 21:45.32 | MrBIOS_ | the drag-down thing is all-white (from the top) |
| 21:45.49 | rebo0t | slide? |
| 21:46.08 | MrBIOS_ | I have no idea of its proper name :) |
| 21:46.27 | dcordes | cr2: cool can you upload them? |
| 21:46.48 | dcordes | ginge: kaiser sdio init |
| 21:47.19 | ginge | dcordes: the -22 is hard coded in. Its a kernel error message meaning invalid data |
| 21:47.50 | miknix | cr2: yesterday I was getting some information abou gpio power pins and noticed something. does it make sense to you the wifi being on a flash device on the wizard? |
| 21:48.41 | ginge | dcordes: it is generated when the sd card is read asking for the voltage data (first init) which returns 0 instead of a meaningful value, which in turn triggers a retutn of EINVAL (-22) |
| 21:49.22 | dcordes | got it |
| 21:51.39 | cr2 | miknix: the wifi eeprom is on flash. |
| 21:52.02 | cr2 | miknix: not the firmware. |
| 21:52.21 | miknix | cr2: hum.. cause when wifi is on, I traced a lot of r/w on EMIF registers |
| 21:52.54 | cr2 | miknix: this is strange. |
| 21:53.21 | cr2 | miknix: the wifi control registers may be mapped to some "flash" area. |
| 21:53.29 | miknix | s/registers/gpios |
| 21:53.58 | cr2 | dcordes: 154183680 19. Dez 2007 htc_tytnII.tar |
| 21:54.17 | miknix | cr2: http://pastebin.com/de38b0be |
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| 21:54.44 | cr2 | miknix: gpios are power gpios+reset. they are documented for artemis, it should not be difficult to do the same for wiazrd |
| 21:55.40 | kiozen | cr2 http://pastebin.no/11524 |
| 21:55.48 | kiozen | cr2: what column do you want to see? |
| 21:57.02 | dcordes | cr2: I hope I have no quota limit |
| 21:57.32 | cr2 | dcordes: scp to linuxtogo.org hangs for me |
| 21:57.36 | MrBIOS_ | ginge: does the apn have to be set or is the username/password sufficient? |
| 21:57.56 | ginge | they are all as important as each other |
| 21:58.01 | ginge | apn is liek a network gateway |
| 21:58.26 | cr2 | kiozen: looking at the haret source |
| 21:59.15 | miknix | cr2: may I ask whats the difference between IL an IM gpios on omap? |
| 21:59.41 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/snapshot1.png think that is voltage over time |
| 22:00.05 | miknix | I know IL are the first low order gpios |
| 22:00.46 | cr2 | kiozen: looks like an exponent |
| 22:01.02 | cr2 | miknix: don't rememebr |
| 22:01.48 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.52 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:01.56 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.00 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.04 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.08 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.09 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:02.09 | cr2 | kiozen: voltage ? |
| 22:02.24 | kiozen | cr2: yes it's the voltage |
| 22:02.41 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:02.58 | cr2 | current is there too ? |
| 22:03.06 | kiozen | cr2: yes looks like |
| 22:03.35 | cr2 | and temperature ? |
| 22:03.51 | cr2 | kiozen: maybe they mux between them with gpios ? |
| 22:03.58 | kiozen | cr2: 36 degree? |
| 22:04.02 | cr2 | yes |
| 22:04.27 | kiozen | cr2: it doesn't seem to be that hot |
| 22:04.40 | cr2 | kiozen: hehe. on universal 50°C is normal while charging ;) |
| 22:05.09 | cr2 | kiozen: at the tsc2046 location. you can#t feel it. |
| 22:05.13 | kiozen | cr2: current seems to be accurate, as it increases when the volatge is dropping for a few secs |
| 22:05.51 | cr2 | kiozen: you may measure the 5V DC current at input, just for fun. |
| 22:06.07 | cr2 | the energy should be conserved :) |
| 22:06.43 | kiozen | cr2: but that means that wince can measure the current somehow |
| 22:07.20 | cr2 | 300mA with lcd on ? can you run 'setlcd 4' to check it ? |
| 22:08.06 | cr2 | kiozen: voltage drop on a known resistance ? |
| 22:08.30 | kiozen | cr2: well the only way to get the current I know |
| 22:08.55 | cr2 | yeah. other than counting the electrons :) |
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| 22:10.06 | cr2 | kiozen: but then you'd see these values after cpld gpio switches. |
| 22:10.36 | cr2 | kiozen: i.e. scaled values proportional to the powermon values. |
| 22:10.49 | kiozen | cr2: http://pastebin.no/11525 |
| 22:11.34 | cr2 | 30mA drop seem a bit too little |
| 22:11.44 | cr2 | backlight ? wifi ? |
| 22:11.48 | MrBIOS_ | BTW if anyone here runs WinMo 6/6.1/5 for their "day jobs" I have just built a download-installable CAB of a fairly improved version of PocketPuTTY |
| 22:12.18 | kiozen | cr2: backlight was low |
| 22:12.51 | cr2 | kiozen: if yu run my haret, you can do 'pwrctl bkl1: 1/0' |
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| 22:13.53 | kiozen | cr2: nope it's not yours |
| 22:15.00 | cr2 | ok |
| 22:15.27 | dcordes | effbiai: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/zImage-nosmd.bin |
| 22:15.42 | kiozen | cr2: http://pastebin.no/11526 with backlight set to full |
| 22:15.59 | cr2 | dcordes: did you learn something new from the pics ? |
| 22:16.28 | dcordes | cr2: I'm downloading them |
| 22:16.29 | cr2 | kiozen: 150mA looks more reasonable. |
| 22:16.55 | kiozen | and haret switches off the lcd nicely :) |
| 22:17.03 | dcordes | cr2: but I do not expect to learn much from them |
| 22:17.05 | cr2 | kiozen: so lcd eats 50% of power. |
| 22:17.15 | cr2 | dcordes: me too. |
| 22:17.17 | kiozen | if it is set to fill |
| 22:17.22 | kiozen | s/fill/full/ |
| 22:17.46 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. maybe it's the second pwm. |
| 22:19.30 | cr2 | kiozen: you may make the powermon with 104MHz and 624MHz |
| 22:20.06 | kiozen | not this night :) |
| 22:20.07 | cr2 | and check the current. |
| 22:20.11 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:20.34 | cr2 | at least we moved a bit forward :) |
| 22:21.35 | kiozen | yes, I will be busy to make the backlight control the next days |
| 22:21.48 | kiozen | and to fix the many other glitches in M |
| 22:22.00 | cr2 | ok. |
| 22:22.27 | cr2 | i'll recheck the second pwm. and lcd/bkl coupling. |
| 22:22.42 | kiozen | yes that would be fine |
| 22:23.03 | dcordes | cr2: that's really high res |
| 22:23.32 | kiozen | ok, I am done for today, let's hit the bed before my nose hits the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 22:23.35 | cr2 | dcordes: DSLR ? |
| 22:23.45 | cr2 | kiozen: good night |
| 22:23.51 | kiozen | night! |
| 22:26.19 | dcordes | cr2: I want one :) |
| 22:27.31 | dcordes | I need to get an affordable camera to make the moko users envious with kaiser photos and videos :) |
| 22:29.26 | dcordes | oh there's the wifi on *563.jpg. the small beast gets hot in hi power mode |
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| 22:40.23 | |miknix| | cr2: do you have some time now? I need your help to get the power gpios. |
| 22:40.29 | |miknix| | btw: artemis seems to do it through cpld |
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| 22:57.17 | ginge | is one windows mobile reboot away from insanity |
| 22:58.28 | dcordes | :O |
| 22:58.31 | ginge | dcordes: in answer to my previous scp query: it is broken in busybox. Known issue. gonna try netcat instead |
| 22:58.34 | dcordes | holds breath |
| 23:01.38 | ginge | this sd driver makes the whole kernel unstable |
| 23:02.12 | dcordes | :D |
| 23:02.17 | dcordes | can you r/w? |
| 23:02.25 | ginge | no |
| 23:02.29 | dcordes | :( |
| 23:02.32 | ginge | I can't even init properly |
| 23:02.53 | ginge | I am at least reading some data from the card registers, however unsuccessful |
| 23:03.27 | ginge | bangs head against a wall |
| 23:05.00 | ginge | looks at a jtag cable and rubs chin thoughtfully |
| 23:05.26 | dcordes | lol what about the light sensor? |
| 23:07.20 | ginge | its all just too shitty to get a reliable connection. I would be better off making sd/bluetooth work properly. Incidentally, I think the bluetooth issue is clock related |
| 23:07.31 | ginge | hmm where is < on the kaiser kb? |
| 23:07.41 | dcordes | shift zero |
| 23:07.51 | ginge | thats > |
| 23:07.55 | ginge | I need < |
| 23:08.13 | dcordes | oh right. try shift/fn camera or so |
| 23:12.12 | ginge | cant see it in the keymap |
| 23:15.04 | dcordes | I'm also in the keymap now |
| 23:16.09 | ginge | it should be shift , but that is handled by the cpld, so doesn't handle the modifer bit |
| 23:17.15 | ginge | don't tell me I need a custom kernel :/ |
| 23:17.57 | rebo0t | i know what's wrong |
| 23:18.05 | rebo0t | ow wp |
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| 23:19.54 | ginge | I know, I will wget a file with it already in :) |
| 23:25.46 | ginge | thank got for netcat :) |
| 23:25.57 | ginge | s/got/jebus/ |
| 23:26.13 | dcordes | haha |
| 23:28.04 | ginge | dcordes: http://rafb.net/p/KTPoKM46.html |
| 23:29.26 | dcordes | 0Hz? |
| 23:29.35 | ginge | line 479? |
| 23:31.09 | dcordes | oh right |
| 23:31.22 | ginge | where did you see 0hz? |
| 23:31.49 | dcordes | nevermind I didn't look close enough |
| 23:31.55 | ginge | ok |
| 23:32.08 | ginge | so close :) |
| 23:32.33 | dcordes | we didn't have the irq stuff before? |
| 23:32.59 | ginge | I turned on some more debugging |
| 23:33.06 | ginge | and added a few outputs |
| 23:33.42 | dcordes | ok btw what did you do to get the clock output? |
| 23:33.44 | ginge | mmc0: req done (CMD0): 0: 00001000 00000000 00000000 00000000this is actually real output from the sd card. don't know why it doesn't work though |
| 23:34.11 | ginge | which clock output? mmc_debug for the mmc0: stuff |
| 23:38.03 | dcordes | mmc0: clock 100000Hz busmode 1 powermode 2 cs 0 Vdd 16 width 0 timing 0 |
| 23:38.23 | dcordes | those |
| 23:38.24 | ginge | yeah mmc debugging kernel option |
| 23:39.07 | dcordes | ok |
| 23:45.02 | ginge | I hate how I get marked as away just becuase I don't use the mouse often |
| 23:46.05 | dcordes | ginge: in your instant messenger? |
| 23:46.10 | ginge | yeah |
| 23:57.55 | ginge | okay, just read the mmc protocol datasheet, and it looks like the card is not sending back the CSD data when it does command 8 (CMD8 int he log) |
| 23:58.09 | dcordes | what's CSD? |
