| 00:00.07 | wasup | i need the ppp crap |
| 00:00.13 | wasup | im not sure what to put... |
| 00:00.13 | AstainHellbring | I got an ip |
| 00:00.30 | AstainHellbring | I used my picmail logins I think they were anyway... |
| 00:00.34 | wasup | what did u put for username and password |
| 00:00.58 | wasup | picmail? like the sprint picmail online |
| 00:01.09 | AstainHellbring | yes |
| 00:04.48 | wasup | ok... and the default .txt what format did u put it in? like pppusername = |
| 00:09.23 | miknix | cr2: I'm dumping syren spi right now |
| 00:20.24 | AstainHellbring | yep |
| 00:20.38 | AstainHellbring | hmm no ip this time |
| 00:20.58 | AstainHellbring | at what point are you able to do anything with keyboard? |
| 00:23.13 | wasup | um |
| 00:23.39 | wasup | like after it tries to initialize the modem... |
| 00:25.39 | wasup | i love being able to see... new SD card at address 254b |
| 00:28.45 | wasup | well ill talk to you all tomorrow.. |
| 00:29.25 | dcordes_ | wasup: that's nice. you can try accessing it from angstrom |
| 00:30.49 | wasup | angstrom? |
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| 00:35.54 | miknix | cr2: any idea what's D_EMIF_NFRST ? |
| 00:36.26 | miknix | cr2: its activated through GPIO 128 when wifi is on/off |
| 00:36.53 | AstainHellbring | dcordes_: got a link to angstrom console initrd? |
| 00:38.27 | CPress | ginge: yes |
| 00:38.38 | CPress | ginge: was i not suppose to do that? |
| 00:38.49 | ginge | no, it needs to stay compressed |
| 00:38.56 | CPress | ginge: thanks |
| 00:39.00 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: in bootkit folder |
| 00:39.13 | ginge | dcordes_: you should have the code in your mail. |
| 00:39.15 | AstainHellbring | eh? |
| 00:39.23 | dcordes_ | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom.bin |
| 00:39.39 | ginge | dcordes_: it almost kind of thinks about maybe considering working |
| 00:40.30 | ginge | dcordes_: also dont press the camera button if you are doing anything important, it spams the console with kernel info |
| 00:40.32 | dcordes_ | ginge: thanks |
| 00:40.38 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 00:40.55 | AstainHellbring | ahh ok |
| 00:41.21 | AstainHellbring | thanks |
| 00:41.30 | ginge | dcordes_: this also has a 90% working touchscreen (after you calibrate it with said camera button) plus the onscreen keyboard as a bonus |
| 00:42.25 | ginge | dcordes_: for gods sake don't merge this code, its full of random comments and bad code |
| 00:42.45 | dcordes_ | I'll just overwrite have nothing interesting local |
| 00:43.17 | ginge | really? thats insane. This code is epic fail |
| 00:45.06 | ginge | you know what I sent you wont even compile. |
| 00:49.11 | dcordes_ | ginge: :( asm/arch/kaiser-hw.h: No such file or directory |
| 00:51.23 | ginge | send the headers |
| 00:51.29 | ginge | s/send/sent/ |
| 00:52.59 | ginge | kaiser kernel is now 1MB :/ |
| 00:53.19 | dcordes_ | ginge: didn't you also modify drivers/mmc/host/msm*? |
| 00:53.38 | ginge | damn. I am only trying to avoid doing make clean |
| 00:54.05 | dcordes_ | you could make a git-diff origin/htc-msm but you'd have to git-add all edited and added files before |
| 00:54.13 | ginge | screw that |
| 00:54.25 | dcordes_ | git-status shows what changed |
| 00:54.28 | ginge | I know |
| 00:54.33 | ginge | one mo |
| 00:54.40 | dcordes_ | btw do you have git access? |
| 00:55.10 | ginge | no |
| 00:58.43 | ginge | sent sdcc |
| 00:58.53 | ginge | thats it according to my local svn |
| 00:59.58 | dcordes_ | kthx. you can register here http://projects.linuxtogo.org/projects/mobile-linux/ |
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| 01:15.03 | ginge | damned clock values are all different. This may time some time. |
| 01:19.09 | dcordes_ | how can I help? |
| 01:20.12 | ginge | do you have it compiled? |
| 01:26.41 | dcordes_ | ginge: no I get tons of errors on clock.c |
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| 01:41.56 | ginge | windows mobile is slllowww to boot. whats the fastest booting wm rom? |
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| 01:43.09 | dcordes | ginge: good question. I'm also looking to reflash |
| 01:43.25 | dcordes | this 'diamond rom' I have is slow and buggy |
| 01:43.44 | dcordes | but it matches its purpose to boot linux reliably |
| 01:44.04 | ginge | my stock rom boots 100% of the time (remotely) |
| 01:44.11 | dcordes | somebody in the forum had the idea of making a very sleek rom for quicker kernel debug |
| 01:45.04 | dcordes | with the diamond I can also boot normal reliably |
| 01:47.46 | AstainHellbring | I could make you a very small fast wm rom |
| 01:47.56 | ginge | okay, so it now detects the msm device |
| 01:49.05 | ginge | okay, I see a pattern emerging with these clock offsets |
| 01:49.42 | dcordes | AstainHellbring: cool. most important is that linux boots well. in both of the kaiser threads people report their roms and how they work. maybe that can help you chose the right ingredients before you cook |
| 01:49.55 | ginge | so could you make the rom small fast yet also have email and browser? |
| 01:49.57 | dcordes | that sounds good |
| 01:50.36 | dcordes | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.50 | ginge | has anyone done an apt style system for cooking roms? apt-get install pocket-ie opera phone sound |
| 01:51.01 | dcordes | lol |
| 01:51.16 | AstainHellbring | yes ginge |
| 01:51.21 | ginge | cool |
| 01:51.39 | AstainHellbring | can't get rid of pie but can include opera mobile 9.5 |
| 01:52.17 | AstainHellbring | sorry ginge: no apt style rom cooking |
| 01:52.27 | AstainHellbring | but the kitchen I have is really nice for picking and choosing |
| 01:52.27 | ginge | :( |
| 01:52.47 | AstainHellbring | lots of check boxes to yes or no stuffs |
| 01:53.02 | ginge | sounds more than good enough |
| 01:53.08 | dcordes | AstainHellbring: the less the merrier. better leave it out. I don't know what the bit is that makes linux boot or not but in my current rom which is "dutty's may 22nd" it works all the time |
| 01:53.37 | AstainHellbring | ok well lemme make a small light one and see how well it works should I include BT a2dp or that kinda stuffs? |
| 01:54.06 | ginge | bluetooth so I can receive files. thats how I get them on the device. everything else is junk |
| 01:54.10 | dcordes | I personally don't use bt but probably some rely on BT net |
| 01:54.16 | dcordes | see ^^ |
| 01:55.16 | AstainHellbring | ok |
| 01:55.40 | AstainHellbring | the rom itself is unbelieveable fast too |
| 01:56.09 | ginge | dcordes: progress for sure. I need to check those clocks, but I now get a lockup further in at mmc_blk_init |
| 01:57.20 | ginge | good night |
| 01:59.07 | dcordes | good night ginge |
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| 02:01.37 | AstainHellbring | night ginge |
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| 07:46.10 | zoolooc | hi ginge_ |
| 07:46.15 | ginge_ | mornin' |
| 07:46.42 | zoolooc | so how's SD status for the kaiser kernel ;) ? |
| 07:47.16 | ginge_ | lol. The SD initialises, detects the chipset, starts the device detection, than locks |
| 07:48.59 | ginge_ | it sees the a4 clock registers differ from the vogue. Cant say I am surprised |
| 07:49.07 | ginge_ | s/sees/seems/ |
| 07:50.57 | zoolooc | I'm sure you guys will find out... |
| 07:53.04 | ginge_ | hmm.. just saw a picture of freerunner. Why did they rob the windows mobile look, I wonder? |
| 07:53.30 | zoolooc | is that the opoenmoko phone? |
| 07:53.49 | zoolooc | why did they made it that ugly? |
| 07:55.04 | ginge_ | the hardware seems pretty solid, but not convinced about the gui |
| 07:55.23 | ginge_ | I still want one |
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| 08:04.03 | zoolooc | ginge_: can't believe they ruined those nice specs with only 64MB of SDRAM |
| 08:04.22 | ginge_ | who needs more, Linux remember ;) |
| 08:05.03 | zoolooc | yeah, I remember, but still |
| 08:05.34 | zoolooc | can't be that fuckin' expensive, I do not understand hardware manufacturers |
| 08:05.39 | ginge_ | jokes aside, you are right, it does seem a little low |
| 08:06.11 | zoolooc | it's otherwise filled with features and peripherals and stuff |
| 08:06.23 | zoolooc | so this just does no longer make sense |
| 08:07.23 | ginge_ | in the true spirit of the hacker, you would need to stack some ram chips |
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| 08:13.58 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 08:14.10 | kiozen | hi BabelO_ |
| 08:16.02 | kiozen | cr2: funny backlight bug |
| 08:16.22 | kiozen | cr2: echo 0 > brightness ----> light off |
| 08:16.36 | kiozen | cr2: echo 50 > brightness ----> nothing happens |
| 08:16.47 | kiozen | cr2: echo 60 > brightness ----> light on |
| 08:17.01 | kiozen | cr2: echo 50 > brightness ----> light dimed |
| 08:17.06 | kiozen | cr2: echo 0 > brightness ----> light off |
| 08:17.19 | kiozen | cr2: echo 51 > brightness ----> nothing happens |
| 08:17.24 | kiozen | cr2: echo 52 > brightness ----> nothing happens |
| 08:17.28 | kiozen | cr2: echo 53 > brightness ----> nothing happens |
| 08:17.40 | kiozen | cr2: nooo, :) echo 53 > brightness ----> light on |
| 08:18.06 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so your backlight need a start power |
| 08:18.20 | kiozen | BabelO_: is that normal |
| 08:18.21 | BabelO_ | minimum start power, change the driver in this way :) |
| 08:18.22 | kiozen | ? |
| 08:20.32 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it can happen yes, backlight have a " alimentation a decoupage" |
| 08:21.05 | kiozen | ok, now I just have to find the place in the kernel sources... |
| 08:21.17 | BabelO_ | kiozen: hh kernel ? |
| 08:21.28 | kiozen | yup |
| 08:22.54 | kiozen | think it's in n560_lcd.c |
| 08:23.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: n560_backlight_set_intensity in looxc550.c |
| 08:25.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: your max intensity is 161 , so your value are too lower to set it on on first pass |
| 08:26.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: any recommended way to solvethis? |
| 08:28.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: set power to upper value by software |
| 08:28.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: can you confirm that you can set 161 to the value ? |
| 08:28.49 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes |
| 08:30.05 | kiozen | hm, "echo 53 > brightness && echo 20 > brightness" makes a flicker, not nice.. |
| 08:30.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so it is the software part, i have same under wince on a gps receiver, if i ll upgrade intensity from lower value, it go on after some step, not on the first |
| 08:30.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so 53 should be the minimum value aceptable :) |
| 08:31.01 | kiozen | BabelO_: yes it is |
| 08:31.41 | BabelO_ | kiozen: look to backlight driver to now, if there is minimum value settable |
| 08:33.26 | BabelO_ | s/now,/know / |
| 08:37.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: doesen't look like |
| 08:38.19 | BabelO_ | deja on sais que fmfi ne marchera plus avec la 2.4 tellemnt qu'ils vont faire de changeemnt |
| 08:38.22 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 08:39.34 | BabelO_ | rohh.. bad windows :) |
| 08:39.53 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so only software |
| 08:40.28 | kiozen | yes, think I have to check for level zero, and do the flickering thing |
| 08:43.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: to switch lcd panel I use /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power ? |
| 08:43.51 | BabelO_ | yes |
| 08:44.10 | kiozen | hm, echo 1 > power --> screen gets white |
| 08:44.25 | BabelO_ | kiozen: echo 0 turn it off ? |
| 08:44.38 | kiozen | echo 0 > power ---> screen is normal |
| 08:44.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: so it is cr2 code to resume LCD that is not called at this time |
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| 08:45.09 | BabelO_ | kiozen: is there a echo 0 > ..../blank something |
| 08:46.09 | kiozen | there is /sys/devices/virtual/graphics/fb0 |
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| 08:49.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: echo 1 > blank --> seems to switch off |
| 08:50.03 | kiozen | BabelO_: echo 0 > blank --> seems to switch on |
| 08:50.08 | kiozen | BabelO_: is that normal? |
| 08:52.41 | kiozen | BabelO_: do you have some example code on how to add brightness control to qtopia? |
| 08:54.07 | BabelO_ | kiozen: sure, i look into git, wait :) |
| 08:54.15 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is only blank |
| 08:54.45 | kiozen | they don't have a brightness control? |
| 08:54.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: if you monitor current consumption, you will see that power save is not so good, with blank |
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| 08:55.08 | kiozen | ? |
| 08:56.24 | kiozen | BabelO_: doesn't blank switch it off? |
| 08:56.45 | BabelO_ | kiozen: http://git.asheesh.org/?p=qtopia_snapshot.git;a=tree;f=devices/htcblueangel;h=db60abde590f1c7f656b18eac4938bb30d09958b;hb=babelo |
| 08:57.01 | BabelO_ | custom.* is for brightness generic |
| 08:57.53 | BabelO_ | kiozen: not sure if blank switch lcd of or just send black to lcd, i think it is black |
| 08:58.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: hm, that is bad... |
| 08:58.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: it is same as blank console on linux computer |
| 08:58.48 | BabelO_ | kiozen: for the white screen, try to switch lcd panel off, then pxa2xx-fb of |
| 08:58.55 | BabelO_ | then power on in reverse order |
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| 09:01.50 | kiozen | echo 0 > /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power ---> screen turns white |
| 09:02.03 | kiozen | echo 0 > /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power ---> screen normal |
| 09:02.10 | kiozen | BabelO_: that stuff is strange.. |
| 09:02.22 | BabelO_ | kiozen: when you send it twice ? |
| 09:02.27 | kiozen | yes |
| 09:02.55 | BabelO_ | when screen turn white, it is because of bad spi dialog, but cr2 already fix that |
| 09:03.08 | BabelO_ | kiozen: do you have lcd panel something in /sys/class ? |
| 09:03.30 | kiozen | well /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power |
| 09:05.50 | kiozen | think cr2 has to enlighten me :) |
| 09:05.55 | kiozen | cr2: wake up! |
| 09:26.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: what about /graphic ? |
| 09:30.47 | BabelO_ | kiozen: trck trcing is ok ? |
| 09:31.07 | kiozen | BabelO_: still no tracks sofar |
| 09:32.42 | BabelO_ | kiozen: poor :( |
| 09:34.52 | kiozen | BabelO_: patience, I just got the device back since 2 days |
| 09:35.03 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok :) |
| 09:35.04 | kiozen | BabelO_: and tracks are a must be |
| 09:35.26 | kiozen | BabelO_: first have to fix these little energy issues |
| 09:35.42 | kiozen | BabelO_: then I can take the devcie into the wild |
| 09:35.54 | kiozen | BabelO_: and then I need the tracks |
| 09:37.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: tel me if you need help :) |
| 09:38.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: still haven't found that backlight suff in your git repo |
| 09:38.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: the link i post above ... custom.cpp contain backlight management for qtopia |
| 09:39.20 | kiozen | ah, now, I was searching the subdirs :) |
| 09:48.20 | kiozen | BabelO_: how are qpe_sysBrightnessSteps() and qpe_setBrightness() called by the app later on ? |
| 09:49.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: in server subdirectory of src... it is only export functions. so you have to look at the bacllght settings menu of qtopia :) |
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| 10:28.23 | reboot342 | hi guy's |
| 10:28.49 | ginge_ | hi reboot342 |
| 10:29.13 | ginge_ | were you here yesterday having sd problems? |
| 10:29.14 | reboot342 | need some help =) |
| 10:29.17 | reboot342 | yup |
| 10:29.28 | ginge_ | hides |
| 10:29.30 | reboot342 | now at my work |
| 10:29.51 | reboot342 | internal card reader and i see all partitions in ubuntu |
| 10:30.46 | reboot342 | need to go for lunch |
| 10:30.50 | reboot342 | i'll explain later on |
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| 11:55.20 | reboot278 | anyone here? |
| 11:59.06 | reboot278 | hellowwww? :) |
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| 12:00.43 | reboot278 | exco u know alot about linux? :-) |
| 12:01.22 | okias | reboot278: what you need? |
| 12:02.35 | reboot278 | euhm i need to copy my image to my sd card |
| 12:03.12 | reboot278 | to my second partition i mean |
| 12:03.16 | reboot278 | ext3 |
| 12:03.25 | okias | reboot278: have you cardreader? |
| 12:03.33 | reboot278 | yes an internal cardreade |
| 12:03.41 | ginge_ | have you tried uncompressing it now you can see your ext3? |
| 12:04.03 | reboot278 | i did uncompress it but i cant copy paste to my second sd partition |
| 12:04.23 | ginge_ | ahh, you don't want to be copy pasting. That will cause man problems |
| 12:04.25 | ginge_ | tar -jxvpf image /media/your_mount_point/ |
| 12:05.20 | ginge_ | you will probably ned to do it sudo too |
| 12:05.28 | ginge_ | s/ned/need/ |
| 12:06.21 | reboot278 | okay |
| 12:06.26 | reboot278 | one sec |
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| 12:07.30 | exco | reboot278: not really (sorry for taking so long) |
| 12:07.39 | reboot278 | sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopia-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /dev/sda2 |
| 12:07.46 | reboot278 | like that? |
| 12:08.31 | okias | reboot278: you must have /dev/sda2 mounted |
| 12:08.36 | exco | hey another one trying it on a Magician |
| 12:09.28 | okias | reboot278: just do "sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt" and after that "sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopia-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /mnt" |
| 12:09.34 | reboot278 | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.51 | okias | then replace /dev/sda2 with /media/disk-1 |
| 12:10.50 | exco | no replace /mnt with /media/disk-1 |
| 12:11.05 | reboot278 | wow wow wow :o chilll xD |
| 12:11.19 | ginge_ | lol |
| 12:11.20 | okias | reboot278: soory, exco have right... |
| 12:12.01 | okias | reboot278: i mean the first your command with /media/disk-1... just do sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopia-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /media/disk-1/" |
| 12:12.38 | exco | btw you really want to use the OpenMoko image since it's the only one with "working" GSM |
| 12:13.10 | reboot278 | i get this error /media/disk-1: Komt niet voor in archief |
| 12:13.24 | reboot278 | komt niet voor in archief means not forcoming in the arcive |
| 12:13.36 | reboot278 | what u mean exco? |
| 12:14.35 | exco | well the Angstrom and Qtopia images don't have working GSM on Magician |
| 12:14.50 | reboot278 | wich one do work on magician? |
| 12:15.00 | reboot278 | soz i'm new on mobile linux |
| 12:15.26 | okias | reboot278: i'm not sure, but try 'sudo umount /media/disk-1', 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt' and 'sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopia-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /mnt' that must working... :-) |
| 12:15.59 | exco | I can send you a working (sort of) version if you like |
| 12:16.12 | reboot278 | unmount: command not found |
| 12:16.20 | reboot278 | okay send me :) |
| 12:16.39 | reboot278 | unmount: command not found that i get when i type sudo unmount /media/disk-1 |
| 12:16.39 | okias | reboot278: 'umount' |
| 12:16.55 | okias | reboot278: NOT unmount, but 'umount' |
| 12:17.01 | exco | ok ... broken right arm... slow at typing |
| 12:17.05 | reboot278 | soz :) |
| 12:17.45 | reboot278 | it say's again that it is allready mounted |
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| 12:18.29 | okias | reboot278: pls send here "mount | grep /dev/sda" |
| 12:18.45 | exco | type "sudo umount /media/disk-1" |
| 12:19.12 | exco | what distro are you using? |
| 12:19.14 | reboot278 | okias i cannot paste |
| 12:19.16 | reboot278 | ubuntu |
| 12:19.33 | okias | reboot278: and giving this command and line to you? |
| 12:19.40 | reboot278 | yes |
| 12:19.54 | exco | so you can also right klick the device on your desktop an select unmount |
| 12:20.01 | okias | :-D |
| 12:20.01 | reboot278 | yup |
| 12:20.37 | reboot278 | okay i got bot my sda1 and sda2 unmounted now |
| 12:20.52 | okias | 'sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt' and 'sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopia-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /mnt' |
| 12:20.58 | okias | reboot278: that's all |
| 12:21.02 | exco | btw you always have to properly unmount before removing the sd card or you'll mess it up |
| 12:23.01 | reboot278 | it say's now that file or folder doesn't exist |
| 12:23.46 | exco | as sudo? |
| 12:24.38 | reboot278 | yup |
| 12:24.59 | reboot278 | anyone here dutch cuz i got dutch linux :) |
| 12:25.05 | reboot278 | cannot translate good |
| 12:26.01 | reboot278 | Function open () has failed: Resistant or folder does not exist tar: Error is not reparable -- tar conclude now. tar: Child returned status 2 tar: /mnt: Does not occur in file tar: Postponed afbreking after earlier errors |
| 12:26.07 | reboot278 | whith a translator |
| 12:26.33 | exco | hmm I can't help you there |
| 12:26.49 | reboot278 | u maybe know what the problem could be? |
| 12:27.35 | ginge_ | is your sd mounted in /mnt ? |
| 12:27.44 | exco | I'm always running krusader as root unpacking the archives... because I always run into problemsin CLI |
| 12:28.10 | reboot278 | mounting is just : sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt |
| 12:28.21 | exco | yes |
| 12:29.00 | reboot278 | mount: /dev/sda2 has been already attached or /mnt is busy mount: according to mtab /dev/sda2 has been already attached on /mnt |
| 12:29.03 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.21 | reboot278 | what ya mean? |
| 12:31.16 | exco | if you're running a non modified ubuntu the SD cards get automatically mounted to /media/disk... |
| 12:31.25 | reboot278 | yes |
| 12:31.49 | reboot278 | can't someone of u start remote control on my computer and try? :) |
| 12:31.59 | ginge_ | reboot278: sudo umount /mnt sudo mkdir /sdcard sudo mount /dev/sda2 /sdcard tar - ... |
| 12:32.00 | exco | well but if you manually mount it can be any folder |
| 12:33.16 | reboot278 | sudo tar -jxvpf Qtopiq-4.3.0-snapshot-2.6.21-hh17-magician.tar.bz2 /sdcard |
| 12:33.18 | reboot278 | ? |
| 12:33.47 | exco | yeah |
| 12:34.14 | exco | shouldnt it be Qtopia? |
| 12:34.48 | reboot278 | edited that one |
| 12:34.48 | exco | new to Uuntu? |
| 12:35.16 | exco | you know about Tab in the console? |
| 12:35.22 | reboot278 | tar: /sdcard: Does not prevent in file tar: Postponed afbreking after earlier errors |
| 12:35.31 | reboot278 | tab in console? |
| 12:35.54 | exco | well you don't have to type the whole filename |
| 12:36.11 | exco | just type Q and press tab |
| 12:36.13 | reboot278 | ehhh .... -.- |
| 12:36.16 | reboot278 | okay |
| 12:36.23 | reboot278 | but i get this now tar: /sdcard: Does not prevent in file tar: Postponed afbreking after earlier errors |
| 12:37.59 | exco | how about just using archive manager to unpack? |
| 12:38.24 | reboot278 | explanation? :) |
| 12:38.39 | reboot278 | just open the arcive and extract to sd card ext3 partition? |
| 12:38.51 | exco | yes |
| 12:39.38 | reboot278 | doesn't work |
| 12:39.47 | exco | why? |
| 12:40.19 | reboot278 | it cannot copy to sd card |
| 12:40.24 | reboot278 | all file's are failing |
| 12:41.48 | cr2 | kiozen: the white screen is probably some coupling between the lcd and backlight. |
| 12:42.14 | infernix | postponed afbreking? grappig |
| 12:42.52 | cr2 | kiozen: i've looked at garmin code yesterday, they have a similar setup (but a more advanced pxafb code with overlays and 18bpp as i've told you) |
| 12:42.57 | infernix | reboot278: paste the dutch error |
| 12:43.52 | reboot278 | tar: bin: Functie mkdir() is mislukt: Toegang geweigerd tar: bin/busybox: Functie open() is mislukt: Bestand of map bestaat niet tar: Kan geen symbolische koppeling maken van bin/ash naar 2018busybox2019: Bestand of map bestaat niet tar: Kan geen symbolische koppeling maken van bin/cat naar 2018busybox2019: Bestand of map bestaat niet |
| 12:43.56 | kiozen | cr2: if i do "echo 4 > /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power" the screen fades to white |
| 12:44.10 | kiozen | cr2: is that normal, dos it mean the lcd is off? |
| 12:44.11 | exco | open archive manager as root and try again, reboot278 |
| 12:44.22 | exco | sudo file-roller |
| 12:44.23 | reboot278 | how |
| 12:44.25 | infernix | reboot278: access denied error on extracting, you're not doing it as root |
| 12:44.28 | infernix | or |
| 12:44.30 | infernix | the sdcard is read only |
| 12:44.49 | infernix | mount | grep sda2 |
| 12:44.51 | infernix | what's that say? |
| 12:45.14 | infernix | ext3 (rw) ? |
| 12:45.50 | exco | you know that you have to hardreset after trying linux on Magician, reboot278 |
| 12:45.50 | infernix | if its mounted in /sdcard, try: sudo touch /sdcard/writingworks |
| 12:46.20 | infernix | if that fails with access denied, something is not quite ricght |
| 12:46.22 | infernix | *right |
| 12:46.41 | reboot278 | i typed sudo touch /sdcard/writingworks |
| 12:46.57 | reboot278 | it just gives me a new commandline so i think everything is okay? |
| 12:46.58 | infernix | no output? |
| 12:47.04 | infernix | ls -al /sdcard/writingworks |
| 12:47.36 | reboot278 | computer@computer-desktop:~$ sudo ls -al /sdcard/writingworks -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 2008-07-11 14:46 /sdcard/writingworks |
| 12:47.50 | infernix | and when you run mount |
| 12:47.57 | infernix | it shows that sda2 is mounted on /sdcard, right? |
| 12:48.03 | reboot278 | euhm |
| 12:48.58 | infernix | with ext3 filesystem? |
| 12:48.58 | reboot278 | ... |
| 12:49.11 | infernix | i assume you did format it as ext3 |
| 12:49.20 | reboot278 | ./dev/sda2 on /sdard type ext2 :s |
| 12:49.25 | infernix | ext2 is fine too |
| 12:49.34 | reboot278 | okay |
| 12:50.04 | reboot278 | so is my sd card allright? |
| 12:50.10 | infernix | should be |
| 12:50.25 | infernix | echo "blablabla" > /sdcard/writingworks |
| 12:50.27 | infernix | no error? |
| 12:50.43 | infernix | ln -s /sdcard/writingworks /sdcard/symlinkworks |
| 12:50.45 | infernix | again no error? |
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| 12:51.34 | reboot278 | computer@computer-desktop:~$ ln -s /sdcard/writingworks /sdcard/symlinkworks ln: bezig symbolische koppeling 2018/sdcard/symlinkworks2019 naar 2018/sdcard/writingworks2019 aan te maken: Toegang geweigerd |
| 12:51.49 | infernix | ok that sure is messed up |
| 12:52.03 | infernix | first things first |
| 12:52.04 | infernix | sudo su |
| 12:52.08 | infernix | (you're now root) |
| 12:52.12 | infernix | try the symlink again |
| 12:52.20 | reboot278 | just symlink |
| 12:52.29 | infernix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:52.42 | infernix | as root, works or fails? |
| 12:53.00 | reboot278 | just gives me a new line |
| 12:53.03 | reboot278 | no output |
| 12:53.04 | infernix | works then |
| 12:53.07 | infernix | cd /sdcard |
| 12:53.22 | reboot278 | root@computer-desktop:/sdcard# |
| 12:53.26 | infernix | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:53.38 | infernix | probably something like /home/computer/ |
| 12:54.01 | infernix | this should really work now |
| 12:55.32 | reboot278 | okay all files are extracted |
| 12:56.06 | reboot278 | now just plug it in my htc and it should work? |
| 12:56.23 | infernix | umount /sdcard |
| 12:56.41 | reboot278 | umount: /sdcard: apparaat is bezig umount: /sdcard: apparaat is bezig |
| 12:56.44 | infernix | cd / |
| 12:56.45 | infernix | umount /sdcard |
| 12:57.01 | infernix | you need a linux for dummies book :p |
| 12:57.04 | reboot278 | than plug it in? |
| 12:57.06 | reboot278 | xD |
| 12:57.07 | infernix | no offense :) |
| 12:57.13 | infernix | i don't know from there |
| 12:57.18 | infernix | ask the magician guys |
| 12:57.26 | infernix | gotta go, byebye :) |
| 12:57.28 | exco | remember to always unmount before pulling the SD card out |
| 12:57.32 | reboot278 | bibi |
| 12:57.34 | reboot278 | ye did that |
| 12:57.51 | exco | bye, infernix |
| 12:58.03 | cr2 | kiozen: i think yes. do you have "lcd off", "backlight on" now ? |
| 12:58.16 | reboot278 | uehm i cant see my sd card on my pda |
| 12:58.34 | reboot278 | and my backligh is on |
| 12:59.08 | okias | reboot278: try reboot |
| 12:59.24 | reboot278 | soft reset? |
| 12:59.28 | okias | reboot278: y |
| 12:59.38 | kiozen | cr2: yes kind off, there is a bias for backlight once it was off (0) |
| 12:59.52 | kiozen | cr2: I just want to make sure lcd is really of |
| 12:59.55 | exco | if you can't see it you messed up the filesystem, reboot278 |
| 12:59.59 | kiozen | cr2: and not just dark |
| 13:00.24 | exco | anyways if you want to try the image I just sent you |
| 13:00.25 | reboot278 | must my first partiton be fat 16 or 32? |
| 13:00.35 | exco | doesn't matter |
| 13:00.45 | cr2 | kiozen: if you disable the bkl while the screen is white, what happens ? |
| 13:01.22 | exco | just if you use fat 16 it has to have at least 16MB and 32MB with fat 32 if I'm not mistaken |
| 13:01.29 | kiozen | cr2: screen turns black, what else? |
| 13:01.30 | reboot278 | Apparaat Opstart Begin Einde Blokken ID Systeem /dev/sda1 1 11 10881 83 Linux /dev/sda2 12 1014 994976 83 Linux |
| 13:01.48 | reboot278 | wait |
| 13:01.54 | reboot278 | i'm gonna start all over again |
| 13:01.55 | exco | to get recognized by the Win2003SE |
| 13:02.01 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:02.06 | reboot278 | gonna start from beginning |
| 13:02.10 | reboot278 | with formatting xD |
| 13:02.15 | exco | well... stop |
| 13:02.18 | exco | I |
| 13:02.23 | reboot278 | huh? |
| 13:02.45 | exco | 'll tell you how to use the image reall quick |
| 13:03.04 | exco | so I can take care of some other stuff, ok? |
| 13:03.17 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:03.47 | exco | Restoring an image to a SD-Card |
| 13:03.56 | exco | unmount! (e.g. umount /media/disk; umount /media/disk-1) |
| 13:04.41 | reboot278 | can u remote control for a second maybe? |
| 13:05.06 | exco | I'd run sudo -s (everytging from here on gets automatically run as root so no more sudo required) |
| 13:05.47 | exco | well I could but with one hand i dont want to - also you wouldnt learn how to do it |
| 13:06.11 | reboot278 | hehe |
| 13:06.16 | exco | after unmounting run pv my_backup.img > /dev/sdb |
| 13:06.16 | reboot278 | cant i look what u doing than? |
| 13:06.30 | reboot278 | my_backup.img. |
| 13:06.31 | exco | it's just 3 lines |
| 13:06.38 | reboot278 | soz i just cant follow |
| 13:06.46 | reboot278 | i got a paper here |
| 13:06.56 | reboot278 | wich say start with fdisk/dev/sda |
| 13:07.00 | reboot278 | than n |
| 13:07.02 | reboot278 | p |
| 13:07.05 | reboot278 | take default |
| 13:07.07 | reboot278 | 1 |
| 13:07.08 | exco | well my backup in this case wold be the file i sent you |
| 13:07.18 | reboot278 | oh okay |
| 13:07.36 | reboot278 | "om_hh18_org" |
| 13:07.37 | exco | if you restore a backup you dont need to create those partitions |
| 13:07.38 | reboot278 | that is what u send to me |
| 13:07.51 | reboot278 | and how do i do that? :$ |
| 13:07.52 | exco | it will automaticcally do that |
| 13:08.18 | exco | yes the om stands for OpenMoko |
| 13:08.29 | exco | hh18 is the kernel version |
| 13:08.32 | marajin | 'lo peeps |
| 13:08.39 | reboot278 | hi |
| 13:08.44 | reboot278 | so first command i type is? |
| 13:08.49 | marajin | how'sit going? |
| 13:08.54 | exco | and org indicates that i didn't modify it |
| 13:09.04 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:09.13 | exco | thanks, goosd |
| 13:09.54 | exco | btw, reboot278 be very carful if so here tells you to "rm ..." sth |
| 13:10.16 | reboot278 | heh? |
| 13:10.47 | exco | rm isa the delete command and some guys find it funny messing with unexperienced linux users |
| 13:11.02 | exco | so where were we |
| 13:11.09 | reboot278 | at the beginning |
| 13:11.22 | exco | unmounted both partitions? |
| 13:11.26 | reboot278 | no |
| 13:11.28 | reboot278 | wait |
| 13:11.35 | exco | so do it :-) |
| 13:11.43 | reboot278 | yup unmounted them |
| 13:11.52 | exco | run sudo -s |
| 13:11.59 | reboot278 | sudo su is same? |
| 13:12.13 | exco | guess so |
| 13:12.15 | reboot278 | done sudo -s |
| 13:12.35 | exco | so now it says root@...: |
| 13:12.38 | exco | ? |
| 13:12.48 | reboot278 | root@computer-desktop:/home/computer# |
| 13:12.54 | exco | ok |
| 13:13.17 | exco | the om_... file is on your Desktop? |
| 13:13.27 | reboot278 | in my home folder |
| 13:13.33 | reboot278 | place it on desktop to? |
| 13:13.38 | exco | no |
| 13:13.52 | exco | you just need to know where it is |
| 13:13.54 | reboot278 | it's on desktop now |
| 13:14.13 | exco | sd card is /dev/sdb? |
| 13:14.18 | reboot278 | sda |
| 13:14.42 | reboot278 | ./dev/sda |
| 13:14.51 | exco | o |
| 13:15.01 | exco | type pv |
| 13:15.19 | reboot278 | program not found |
| 13:15.31 | exco | if it tells you you don't have it type the command to install it |
| 13:16.01 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:16.05 | reboot278 | apt-get install pv |
| 13:16.11 | reboot278 | now i typed pv again |
| 13:16.24 | cr2 | kiozen: must be some incorrect coupling between the lcd and bkl at the upper software layers. i need to look at the code. |
| 13:16.39 | exco | installed? |
| 13:16.44 | reboot278 | yup |
| 13:16.58 | reboot278 | now it says something like 0b 0:00:59 |
| 13:17.01 | reboot278 | .... |
| 13:17.23 | exco | press ctrl+c to end |
| 13:17.33 | reboot278 | k ended it |
| 13:18.05 | exco | so type pv /home/..path to om_... /dev/sda |
| 13:18.38 | exco | you can just type /h press tab to let it finish for you and so on |
| 13:18.51 | reboot278 | so pv /home/computer/"om_hh18_org" /dev/sda |
| 13:19.29 | exco | without the quotes it sounds about right |
| 13:20.01 | exco | does it look like it''s copying? |
| 13:20.08 | reboot278 | the quote's are in the filename to |
| 13:20.20 | exco | really? |
| 13:20.24 | exco | then ok |
| 13:20.30 | reboot278 | ye |
| 13:20.57 | exco | so wait for it to finish |
| 13:21.09 | exco | (sd card at least 256MB?) |
| 13:21.35 | reboot278 | 1GB |
| 13:21.38 | reboot278 | pv: failed to read file: /home/computer/bureaublad/om_hh18_org: Bestand of map bestaat niet |
| 13:21.46 | reboot278 | file or folder doesn't exist |
| 13:22.09 | exco | well youre file is somewhere else then :-) |
| 13:22.28 | exco | try using tab to avoid tahat problem |
| 13:22.37 | reboot278 | it's in /home/computer |
| 13:23.09 | exco | so press pv /hTAB/coTAB/imTAB |
| 13:23.46 | reboot278 | pv: failed to read file: /hTAB/coTAB/imTAB: Bestand of map bestaat niet |
| 13:23.58 | exco | *ggg* |
| 13:24.09 | exco | Tab is a key yes? |
| 13:24.34 | reboot278 | ow soz |
| 13:24.49 | exco | so e.g. when you type /h"Tab" it should get you /home/? |
| 13:24.58 | reboot278 | yes |
| 13:25.11 | reboot278 | the co finsihes computer but im doesn't wordk |
| 13:25.58 | exco | so when you type pv /h"Tab"/co"Tab"/om"Tab" whT DO YOU GET? |
| 13:26.00 | reboot278 | i think it's working now |
| 13:26.11 | reboot278 | computer keep's on beeping |
| 13:26.27 | reboot278 | seeing alot of char's in terminal |
| 13:26.31 | reboot278 | good or bad? |
| 13:26.32 | exco | well did you put /dev/sda after the location of the imsage? |
| 13:26.37 | reboot278 | yes |
| 13:27.01 | reboot278 | i typed pv /home/computer/om_hh18_org /dev/sda |
| 13:27.28 | exco | normally it should look like pv displaying the time speed and a progress bar |
| 13:27.54 | reboot278 | i just got a prograss bar but it's gone and char's flowing over the screen :) |
| 13:28.18 | exco | I really hope your SD card is /dev/sda |
| 13:28.35 | exco | press ctrl+c |
| 13:28.44 | reboot278 | yes |
| 13:28.53 | exco | back to root@? |
| 13:28.57 | reboot278 | yp |
| 13:29.00 | reboot278 | yup |
| 13:29.05 | exco | try again |
| 13:29.20 | exco | arrow up |
| 13:29.22 | reboot278 | start's again |
| 13:29.33 | exco | gives you the last used commands |
| 13:29.36 | reboot278 | i'll copy abit |
| 13:29.45 | reboot278 | fffdBfffdCfffdDfffdEfffdFfffdGfffdHfffdIfffdJfffdKfffdLfffdMfffdNfffdOfffdPfffdQfffdRfffdSfffdTfffdUfffdVfffdWfffdXfffdYfffdZfffd[fffd\fffd]fffd^fffd_fffd`fffdafffdbfffdcfffddfffdefffdffffdgfffdhfffdifffdjfffdkfffdlfffdmfffdnfffdofffdpfffdqfffdrfffdsfffdtfffdufffdvfffdwfffdxfffdyfffdzfffd{fffd|fffd}fffd~fffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffdfffd |
| 13:29.59 | reboot278 | category_holiday-cards_16.pngHot Contactscategory_hot-contacts_16.pngIdeascategory_ideas_16.pngInternationalcategory_international_16.pngKey Customercategory_key-customer_16.pngMiscellaneouscategory_miscellaneous_16.pngPersonalcategory_personal_16.pngPhone Callscategory_phonecalls_16.pngStatuscategory_status_16.pngStrategiescategory_strategies_16.pngSupplierscategory_suppliers_16.pngTime & Expensescategory_time-and-expenses_16.pngVIPWaiti |
| 13:30.05 | exco | ctrl+c to abort |
| 13:30.10 | reboot278 | done that |
| 13:30.27 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.42 | exco | sorry wait |
| 13:32.00 | exco | pv /home/computer/om_hh18_org > /dev/sda |
| 13:32.06 | exco | missed the > |
| 13:32.46 | exco | does it work? |
| 13:34.06 | reboot278 | one sec |
| 13:34.39 | reboot278 | yes seeing a progres bar now |
| 13:35.24 | exco | sorry about that |
| 13:35.32 | reboot278 | it's on 100% |
| 13:35.57 | exco | wait till it finishes |
| 13:36.09 | reboot278 | got a new command line now |
| 13:36.14 | exco | then type partprobe /dev/sda |
| 13:36.37 | exco | now you can browse the partitions if you like |
| 13:36.50 | reboot278 | yup |
| 13:36.56 | exco | or unmount and put it in the Magician |
| 13:36.58 | reboot278 | part one has a song and haret |
| 13:37.20 | reboot278 | second one alot of files |
| 13:37.23 | exco | oh... the MI won't like that... |
| 13:37.33 | reboot278 | mi? |
| 13:37.43 | exco | musicindustry |
| 13:37.47 | reboot278 | -.- |
| 13:38.02 | reboot278 | so now i type umount /dev/sda |
| 13:38.06 | exco | I just tried if the media player works or sth |
| 13:38.09 | exco | no |
| 13:38.17 | reboot278 | what than |
| 13:38.28 | exco | you have to type e.g. umount /media/disk; umount /media/disk-1 |
| 13:39.11 | reboot278 | k the 2 sd cards are gone now |
| 13:39.35 | exco | so you unmont the mountpoints you can't unmount the SD card itself |
| 13:39.50 | reboot278 | oh okay |
| 13:39.56 | reboot278 | i'll keep that in mind |
| 13:39.56 | exco | do you see the haret stuff |
| 13:40.22 | reboot278 | on computer or pda? |
| 13:40.22 | exco | backed up the Magician? |
| 13:40.27 | reboot278 | no |
| 13:40.36 | reboot278 | i need to do backup first? |
| 13:40.47 | exco | you will lose everything on the Magician |
| 13:41.09 | reboot278 | dont have anything important on it |
| 13:41.14 | reboot278 | just got it 4-5 day's |
| 13:41.16 | exco | cause you have to hardreset to get back to windows |
| 13:41.36 | reboot278 | Can i also keep using linux and no windows anymore? |
| 13:42.03 | exco | anyways if you need to make a backup use spb backup (5 backups with trial version) |
| 13:42.18 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:42.20 | reboot278 | now |
| 13:42.23 | reboot278 | i launched hared |
| 13:42.39 | reboot278 | now it ask's default.txt button runµ |
| 13:42.40 | exco | yes, but I think it's not ready for everyday use ... yet |
| 13:42.42 | reboot278 | just klick it |
| 13:42.46 | exco | yes |
| 13:43.03 | reboot278 | this is sick :o |
| 13:43.10 | exco | now it should look öike linux booting |
| 13:43.17 | reboot278 | openmoko |
| 13:44.02 | reboot278 | now i got my homescreen |
| 13:44.08 | reboot278 | averyghing working i guess |
| 13:44.21 | exco | anyways if you're not a total linux nerd ... and you don't make that impression... I'd use Wi2003SE |
| 13:44.41 | reboot278 | why? |
| 13:44.48 | exco | absolutely .... NOT :-) |
| 13:44.58 | reboot278 | haha |
| 13:45.01 | reboot278 | so euhm |
| 13:45.10 | exco | because it's not fully working atm |
| 13:45.11 | reboot278 | can i still use activesync? |
| 13:45.16 | exco | no |
| 13:45.18 | reboot278 | well it looks nice! |
| 13:45.21 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:45.45 | reboot278 | and how i set time and date? |
| 13:46.41 | exco | but if you're interested stick to this channel... paulproteus and me we're (were) trying to build an uptodate image for Magician |
| 13:47.02 | reboot278 | i'll come online for some times |
| 13:47.07 | exco | don't expect too much though |
| 13:48.05 | exco | you don't see singnal bars but GSM does work |
| 13:48.25 | exco | maybe you have to activate it first |
| 13:48.42 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:48.46 | exco | date and time ... there should be a UI for that |
| 13:48.53 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:49.12 | reboot278 | well |
| 13:49.22 | reboot278 | even look's better than wm6 :) |
| 13:49.30 | reboot278 | can u change skin and things? |
| 13:49.35 | exco | you can also use the hh20 kernel + modules (runs faster) |
| 13:50.24 | reboot278 | euhm u got images of them all? or a website where they are on |
| 13:50.28 | exco | ->http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Look_%26_Feel |
| 13:51.11 | exco | you're too fast :-) |
| 13:51.24 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:51.24 | exco | http://www.linuxtogo.org/~htcpxa/htcmagician/images/ |
| 13:51.24 | exco | Angstrom |
| 13:51.24 | exco | http://linuxtogo.org/~ph5/magician/ |
| 13:51.38 | exco | but those are very outdated |
| 13:51.57 | exco | there's atm nothing more recent available |
| 13:52.10 | reboot278 | so the one i got is the most recent one? |
| 13:52.21 | exco | apart a non-working version we built |
| 13:52.28 | exco | yes |
| 13:52.44 | exco | and no |
| 13:53.02 | reboot278 | okay... =) |
| 13:54.00 | reboot278 | can u also flash it into the rom? :) |
| 13:54.03 | exco | I updated this one connecting the XDA to the internet through USB and using ipkg (kike apt-get) but I'm not too impressed with the results |
| 13:54.11 | exco | not yet |
| 13:54.40 | exco | but I "baked" one the other day to get the JTAG pins |
| 13:54.53 | reboot278 | heh? |
| 13:54.57 | exco | so it should be possible for so else |
| 13:55.10 | reboot278 | i think not for htc s100 |
| 13:55.14 | reboot278 | to low memory |
| 13:56.17 | reboot278 | :o my pda doesn't boot anymore :p |
| 13:56.22 | exco | we only need a working bootloader that loads the OS from the SD card for starters |
| 13:56.42 | exco | yes... now hardreset and you're back to win |
| 13:56.52 | reboot278 | k |
| 13:57.58 | reboot278 | but euhm |
| 13:58.02 | reboot278 | when u boot openmoke |
| 13:58.06 | reboot278 | u get alot of text |
| 13:58.16 | reboot278 | is that a gif or is it really doing that? |
| 13:59.37 | reboot278 | brb going to switch to windows |
| 13:59.38 | reboot278 | xp |
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| 14:54.59 | dcordes | hi |
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| 15:13.38 | reboot146 | hia guy's |
| 15:13.41 | reboot146 | anyone here |
| 15:15.10 | dcordes | yep |
| 15:15.16 | dcordes | how can I help? |
| 15:15.34 | reboot146 | euhm |
| 15:15.47 | reboot146 | i want my contact's of my simcard into openmoko :) |
| 15:17.10 | reboot146 | is it possible or not? :-) |
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| 15:19.32 | reboot146 | ... |
| 15:20.05 | dcordes | reboot146: I don't know how the contacts in openmoko are saved but it's probably a simple text file. you could ask #openmoko |
| 15:20.21 | reboot146 | okay |
| 15:20.34 | dcordes | or check openmoko.org wiki |
| 15:21.01 | dcordes | and no clue how you get your contacts out of windows mobile |
| 15:25.26 | diogene31_ | dcordes: You could have a look at opensync, and syncengine plugin. |
| 15:27.16 | marajin | dcordes: hey there |
| 15:27.37 | Kevin2 | marajin: You should be able to up the number of pages that haret supports for kernel booting by just increasing the MAX_INDEX. However, we found that Linux really couldn't handle initrd images over 20MiB on machines with 64MiB of ram. |
| 15:27.43 | ginge_ | marajin: back after a night full o stabbings eh |
| 15:28.05 | marajin | Kevin2: We have 128MiB of RAM and it dies at ~ 25 |
| 15:28.40 | marajin | Kevin2: Well 26MB didn't work as an initrd anyway. |
| 15:28.58 | marajin | ginge_: Stabbings? |
| 15:29.26 | ginge_ | marajin: just heard it on the radio that someone got stabbed up your way |
| 15:29.37 | marajin | ginge_: I don't listen to the news |
| 15:29.45 | ginge_ | probably for the best |
| 15:29.55 | marajin | It gets too depressing yeah :P |
| 15:30.15 | marajin | sneaks off to the bathroom to scrub the blood off his hands. |
| 15:30.16 | Kevin2 | marajin: Hrmm. I don't know of any reason you can't increase MAX_INDEX then. We've upped it before without issue. |
| 15:30.45 | marajin | Kevin2: We putit to 9 and it'll barf on any image we tried down to 26MB. This is just by fattening existing working images btw. |
| 15:31.35 | marajin | Kevin2: It'll attempt to load anything up to er.. 34-35MB on 9 but just freezes with half the screen blanked and half still showig haret, so I can only say the initrd somehow fails |
| 15:32.41 | Kevin2 | marajin: How did you "fatten" the existing images? |
| 15:32.58 | marajin | extracted, added some dummy files, recreated initrd |
| 15:33.36 | marajin | at one point I jut tried dumping some random mp3s into the image... |
| 15:33.58 | Kevin2 | Okay - that's odd. As far as I know it should work. I can't test here because none of my devices will boot even with 20MiB images. |
| 15:34.22 | marajin | Kevin2: You're welcome to send me a build of haret + an image you've fattened to test. |
| 15:34.38 | marajin | Kevin2: Maybe I'm making the image wrong somehow, but I don't see why. |
| 15:37.02 | Kevin2 | I don't have any images handy. I can push a locally compiled haret with max_index increased - there is always the possibility of a miscompile - but that seems a bit unlikley. |
| 15:37.47 | dcordes | ginge_: did you get the sdc beast to compile? |
| 15:37.54 | marajin | Kevin2: mkay |
| 15:38.03 | ginge_ | dcordes: yeah, and initialise |
| 15:38.19 | ginge_ | but then it hard locks when it tried to probe the device |
| 15:38.27 | marajin | dcordes: Can you "fatten" an image for me on your system just to be sure? (make it between 25and 35MB in size) ? |
| 15:38.40 | marajin | dcordes: Preferably an image that we know will boot otherwise |
| 15:38.53 | dcordes | sure |
| 15:39.04 | dcordes | what shall I feed it? |
| 15:39.10 | Kevin2 | http://www.handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haret-20080711.exe |
| 15:39.15 | marajin | Who cares as long as it bulks it? |
| 15:39.26 | marajin | Kevin2: Thanks I'll grab that and push it to my device |
| 15:39.34 | ginge_ | cant you just dd some crap (random) into it? |
| 15:39.43 | ginge_ | or cat redirect urandom to a file for a bit |
| 15:40.17 | marajin | Kevin2: Can you possibly md5 the file jut to be sure too? :P I get becb55afda7e7df47029df3f9b81fecc haret-20080711.exe |
| 15:44.13 | dcordes | marajin: how fat do you want it? |
| 15:44.43 | marajin | dcordes: ..between 25 an 35MBis fine, The smallest I tried was 26 and the largest I tried 35. |
| 15:45.22 | marajin | dcordes: I suppose you may want to go for the upper limit just to prove a point, would also mean we COULD get openmoko image on to it if it boots a 35MB image |
| 15:45.48 | AstainHellbring | morning |
| 15:48.48 | dcordes | marajin: booting openmoko will not really help us. get the X in gpe-image going and also openmoko will work |
| 15:48.55 | dcordes | (we have a gpe that boots) |
| 15:49.02 | dcordes | uploading |
| 15:49.14 | dcordes | morning AstainHellbring |
| 15:49.24 | marajin | dcordes: yes yes but once X works thn we want OM to boot too, assuming we haven't got SD by then anyway |
| 15:49.33 | dcordes | yea :) |
| 15:49.52 | marajin | dcordes: So see I'm not talking complete madness :P |
| 15:49.57 | dcordes | did you try and debug the start of X in gpe image using gprs? |
| 15:50.17 | marajin | dcordes: No, I've been kinda busy mostly, I should have some free time at last tonight though |
| 15:50.28 | dcordes | I didn't mean to hurt you. it will help enlarging haret's initrd skills anyway |
| 15:50.31 | dcordes | there's not only kaiser |
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| 15:51.21 | marajin | dcordes: The :P should tell you I'm not "hurt" ;) It was meant to be joking. |
| 15:51.50 | dcordes | same |
| 15:51.54 | marajin | and yes, very true other devices mgiht like the large initrd support till they SD storage |
| 15:51.59 | dcordes | tjhe image is 28M |
| 15:52.12 | marajin | dcordes: that'll do for testing sake I guess :) |
| 15:52.21 | dcordes | 30, sorry |
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| 15:53.16 | dcordes | marajin: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/initrd-fat.bin |
| 15:53.40 | marajin | dcordes: Thanks, wgetting it now |
| 15:54.27 | dcordes | it's my last angstrom build including two kernel imagees ^^ |
| 15:55.05 | marajin | dcordes: Heh :) |
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| 15:55.18 | marajin | dcordes: ANd it definitely boots before you fattened it |
| 15:55.28 | dcordes | yes |
| 15:55.55 | marajin | good god, now the kaiser won't sync -.- |
| 15:56.00 | marajin | oh there we go, just AS being slow |
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| 16:02.51 | kiozen | cr2: this lcd power stuff is too buggy to use it :( |
| 16:03.24 | kiozen | if I do multiple "echo 0 > /sys/class/lcd/pxa2xx-fb/power " I toggle between white screen and valid screen |
| 16:10.04 | dcordes | where's San Mehat idelein when you need him?! |
| 16:10.24 | dcordes | ginge: we could terror the android kernel ML with sd questions? |
| 16:12.45 | dcordes | ginge: it looks quite active http://groups.google.com/group/linux-msm-kernel/ |
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| 16:17.43 | ginge | dcordes: yeah, I keep one eye on that group. I get the feeling that they have no idea about our chip specifically, and even if they did want to help some NDA would stop them. |
| 16:17.46 | ginge | worth a try I guess |
| 16:18.26 | marajin | dcordes: Well it didn't boot with the old large initrd build of haret, I'll test now with kevin2's |
| 16:20.15 | marajin | aaand haret crashed, softreset and try again.. |
| 16:24.16 | marajin | Kevin2: No it simply doesn't boot with larger images even on a higher memory device =/ |
| 16:24.37 | marajin | dcordes: ginge: no go, it won't boot hte large initrds |
| 16:27.39 | ginge | marajin: damn |
| 16:28.18 | marajin | ginge: Yah |
| 16:28.31 | marajin | looks like kevin2 got distracted too anyway |
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| 16:31.12 | Marex | cr2: hi, dont you know if there is any way to switch LCD resolution on the fly ? |
| 16:32.27 | Kevin2 | marajin: becb55afda7e7df47029df3f9b81fecc out/haret.exe |
| 16:33.21 | Kevin2 | I have to wonder if we're hitting some kernel limit. Can you try 'fattening' an image to 25165824 (or there abouts). |
| 16:33.35 | Kevin2 | (That is, just under the old limit.) |
| 16:34.34 | marajin | Kevin2: Um, I can try yeah |
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| 16:42.20 | dcordes | ginge: or email San. When we started poking around with the dzo code that made it finally boot, they kindly offered their help :) |
| 16:42.46 | ginge | dcordes: San? |
| 16:42.46 | dcordes | probably the whole marketing/nda/whatsoever stuff is the reason they don't idle on freenode any longer |
| 16:42.56 | dcordes | ginge: San Mehad he's the author of msm_sdcc |
| 16:43.04 | ginge | ah, gotcha |
| 16:43.05 | dcordes | s/Mehad/Mehat/ |
| 16:44.00 | dcordes | dzo: might also be able to help with your problem. |
| 16:44.46 | dcordes | ginge: what does it mean it freezes when it's searching for devices? |
| 16:44.55 | dcordes | is it an "mmc:" error? |
| 16:44.56 | ginge | possibly, but I don't want to bother dzo until he has more progress than we do, and considering it is a flakey pile at the moment... |
| 16:45.18 | ginge | i think so, but the fb scrolls too fast. I need my serial hack again |
| 16:46.49 | ginge | I am planning a good reverse engineering session when I have done a few chores. I need to match these clocks up with our specific hardware. |
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| 16:47.44 | dcordes_ | good old LED console |
| 16:48.52 | dcordes_ | ginge: you could also build msm_sdcc as a module and then load it through gprs console |
| 16:52.46 | ginge | true |
| 16:53.11 | dcordes_ | did you boot one module kernel on kaiser before? |
| 16:53.22 | dcordes_ | I wonder how well that works with initrdf |
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| 16:56.22 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. |
| 16:57.15 | cr2 | Marex: i think you can't (unless you run X with extensions). but you can use overlays (with a better pxa27x pxafb driver) |
| 17:00.22 | kiozen | cr2: thing I have a workaround, but that is nothing really generic |
| 17:00.36 | kiozen | s/thing/think/ |
| 17:15.21 | marajin | Kevin2: reckon this is close enough? 25154147 fatstrom.bin |
| 17:15.29 | marajin | ~10,000 bytes out |
| 17:16.22 | marajin | also, it boots |
| 17:16.33 | Marex | cr2: dang :( palmt3 has adjustable screen size (it has slider) |
| 17:16.37 | marajin | Kevin2: at 25154147 it boots =) |
| 17:18.03 | marajin | Marex: I miss my old T3 :( The T3 rocked |
| 17:18.49 | ginge | I miss my jornada 928. It had two screens |
| 17:19.25 | Marex | marajin: indeed |
| 17:19.26 | marajin | I liked the T3/LifeDrive for their HVGA sceens |
| 17:19.46 | marajin | I hated thelifedrive for the limitations of PalmOS and its RAM though |
| 17:20.28 | marajin | older devices had double or more memory than the Lifedrive. |
| 17:20.42 | marajin | Plus PalmOS only allocated what.. 6.5MB to the dynamic heap? |
| 17:20.52 | marajin | didn't the T3 give that about 14? |
| 17:21.52 | Marex | no idea ... I was never in palmos much |
| 17:22.22 | marajin | hah |
| 17:22.47 | Kevin2 | marajin: Hrmm. How big was the kernel and how big was the initrd? |
| 17:23.00 | marajin | yeah well I got tired of waiting for a decent working linux. I mean you guys did really good work 'n all but I wanted a more flexible device |
| 17:23.29 | marajin | Kevin2: 985128 zImage.bin |
| 17:23.29 | marajin | 25154147 fatstrom.bin |
| 17:25.16 | ginge | can I make the framebuffer blocking? |
| 17:26.55 | dcordes_ | ginge: blocking? you mean freeze it after mmc init? |
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| 17:28.02 | ginge | i mean freeze while waiting for any output. At the moment it locks in the kernel, but the bit of the framebuffer I need to see gets overwritten with some other output |
| 17:28.35 | dcordes_ | no clue |
| 17:28.42 | ginge | and the serial led hack gets initted after the thing I really want to see |
| 17:29.00 | dcordes_ | can you just init it earlier? |
| 17:29.09 | Kevin2 | marajin: Okay - so you're over the 24MiB limit that haret has (haret combines kernel and initrd when using MAX_INDEX). |
| 17:29.24 | ginge | dcordes_: I guess. Good point ;) |
| 17:29.40 | ginge | dcordes_: anyhoo, we are definately not locking on mmc_init |
| 17:29.54 | marajin | Kevin2: Yeah... so we're guessing what? kernel's causing a fuss with larger images? |
| 17:30.05 | dcordes_ | ginge: that sounds like a good sign. do you build with sdio? |
| 17:30.08 | ginge | dcordes_: msmsdcc_init_dma is the last thing I saw |
| 17:30.20 | Kevin2 | marajin: Well, I'm biased, but yeah that sounds like a good explanation to me. :-) |
| 17:30.27 | ginge | dcordes_: yes, I built with everything I could find |
| 17:30.27 | marajin | Kevin2: Hah :P |
| 17:30.48 | marajin | Kevin2: Typical =/ then again ginge here is slapping SD into shape so it might not matter soon :) |
| 17:31.07 | dcordes_ | ginge: I would try building without sdio. dzo asked yesterday if the driver finds sdio. probably it freezes while scanning for it |
| 17:31.14 | marajin | once that's sorted we might have 4+ gigs of goodliness |
| 17:31.22 | ginge | marajin: dzo's sd is still wonky, so I do hope you are not planning on a silver (ginger?) bullet here |
| 17:31.39 | marajin | ginge: Perhaps you just need motivating! ;) |
| 17:31.49 | ginge | beer you say? Why thank you! |
| 17:31.56 | marajin | ginge: Yeah I know I'm not expecting it to be fixed today kinda thing ;) |
| 17:32.00 | dcordes_ | ginge: try only building with mmc kernel support and msm_sdcc |
| 17:32.09 | ginge | dcordes_: will do |
| 17:32.15 | marajin | ginge: Actually I have a collassal amount of beer atm. Sorting out a BBQ for my dad's 60th |
| 17:32.37 | marajin | Got guinness, budweiser, old tom, hobgoblin, cain's... |
| 17:32.43 | marajin | just kinda catering to all tastes |
| 17:32.48 | marajin | I'm a dark ale man really ;) |
| 17:32.49 | ginge | mmm old tom |
| 17:32.49 | dcordes_ | I have beck's |
| 17:32.58 | marajin | old tom is ridiculous |
| 17:33.00 | marajin | 8.5 abv |
| 17:33.04 | marajin | *8.5% |
| 17:33.18 | dcordes_ | oktoberfestbeer dude |
| 17:33.30 | marajin | it seemed appropriate though cause he's called tom so.. |
| 17:34.27 | marajin | dcordes_: what about it? is that high alcohol? |
| 17:34.44 | marajin | dcordes_: I'm just saying for something you buy off a shelf at the supermarket here, 8.5% abv is pretty notable |
| 17:35.21 | marajin | Kevin2: anyway, thanks for your time/insight :) |
| 17:37.13 | dcordes_ | marajin: slightly more as usual but very good taste. best is löwenbräu obeer |
| 17:37.17 | ginge | right, chores done, partner at her inlaws, house looking slightly less like someone threw in a hand grenade... you know what that means... |
| 17:37.19 | dcordes_ | we just call it O-beer |
| 17:37.29 | ginge | sd |
| 17:37.42 | marajin | ginge: Heh :) |
| 17:38.04 | marajin | dcordes_: I guess we have special brews too.. |
| 17:38.22 | marajin | ginge: Ever tried hobgoblin btw? |
| 17:38.25 | dcordes_ | lol |
| 17:38.39 | marajin | dcordes_: I'd like to go to oktoberfest one year.. |
| 17:38.40 | ginge | marajin: probably. |
| 17:38.52 | ginge | yeah, count me in too. htc-linux meet :) |
| 17:38.54 | dcordes_ | marajin: not me |
| 17:39.00 | marajin | ginge: Heh, it's usally pretty notable, very very dark ale, chocolatey taste? |
| 17:39.30 | marajin | ginge: Their tag line for it is a hobgoblin going "What's the matter lager-boy? Afraid you might TASTE something?" |
| 17:39.35 | marajin | ginge: Which I just love :) |
| 17:39.38 | ginge | marajin: lol |
| 17:39.39 | marajin | dcordes_: Why not? |
| 17:39.43 | dcordes_ | lol lager boy |
| 17:40.12 | marajin | dcordes_: Well it's just poking at the people here who think a crappy low alcohol lager is a real drink |
| 17:40.22 | dcordes_ | marajin: I don't know. probably I'd just go to say I've been there |
| 17:40.23 | ginge | I spent lots of my student years drinking ales in manchester |
| 17:41.16 | ginge | I prefer the milder ales. Black Sheep is the drink of the month |
| 17:41.25 | ginge | (it is on offer at the local) |
| 17:42.12 | marajin | fair enough |
| 17:42.32 | marajin | I mus admit when I go out I tend to look for a local brew called flatcap |
| 17:42.34 | marajin | 's nice stuff |
| 17:42.34 | dcordes_ | I need to check out all those |
| 17:42.50 | marajin | dcordes_: All what? our ales and beers? :P |
| 17:42.52 | dcordes_ | but better not in a british pub :D |
| 17:43.03 | dcordes_ | unless I carry my armour |
| 17:43.11 | dcordes_ | marajin: yes |
| 17:43.14 | marajin | dcordes_: Hah, what's wrong with our pubs?! |
| 17:43.35 | dcordes_ | marajins lurking with their knifes everywhere |
| 17:43.41 | marajin | rofl |
| 17:43.55 | ginge | lol |
| 17:44.02 | marajin | Man I'm 113kg, I don't stab people, I pick them up and bounce their heads off walls |
| 17:44.23 | ginge | people just look at me and assume I am a nutter |
| 17:44.30 | marajin | ginge: You aRE a nutter |
| 17:44.42 | marajin | ginge: but the hair prollydoesn't help the impression ;) |
| 17:45.03 | ginge | being over 6 ft doesn't help it either |
| 17:45.23 | ginge | everyone up here is about 4 ft tall ;) |
| 17:45.26 | marajin | I don't see what being tallish has to do with being nuts |
| 17:45.30 | dcordes_ | damn I can't keep up. I don't beat people :( |
| 17:45.32 | marajin | O.o; |
| 17:45.40 | marajin | I know BUNCHES of people around manchester that are 6' + |
| 17:46.10 | marajin | dcordes_: Why not? you can force them to buy you new HTCs |
| 17:46.21 | ginge | lol. being tall stocky and having mad scientist ginger hair generally makes people think better of stabbing me |
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| 17:46.57 | marajin | I'm tall enough to not be short (5'10-5'11ish) and ginger hair and heavy ;) |
| 17:47.00 | marajin | so they leave me alone too |
| 17:47.44 | ginge | hey did AstainHellbring get anywhere with making an wm image, or is it wip? |
| 17:47.44 | marajin | afk a few, time to visit a shop |
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| 17:48.04 | AstainHellbring | wip... testing what I need to do to make it boot everytime |
| 17:48.16 | ginge | hi, cool, thanks :) |
| 17:48.30 | reboot971 | hi guy's |
| 17:48.37 | ginge | hides |
| 17:48.38 | AstainHellbring | hiya reboot |
| 17:48.51 | reboot971 | got one problem with pda xD |
| 17:48.53 | ginge | how is Linux going for you |
| 17:48.56 | reboot971 | cant send text message's |
| 17:49.02 | AstainHellbring | hmm I think I also should make sure I have latest haret and zimage init-rd too |
| 17:49.47 | ginge | reboot any errors? |
| 17:49.59 | reboot971 | nope |
| 17:50.03 | reboot971 | not getting error's |
| 17:50.11 | reboot971 | but when i toch the envelope |
| 17:50.16 | dcordes_ | AstainHellbring: pick mine or ginge's initrd-android.bin which is larger than angstrom. the wacky roms tend to freeze rather on large images. |
| 17:50.19 | reboot971 | it opens and closes directly |
| 17:50.27 | AstainHellbring | ok dcordes |
| 17:50.32 | dcordes_ | I've g2g |
| 17:50.38 | ginge | dcordes_: cya later |
| 17:50.42 | reboot971 | bibi |
| 17:50.52 | dcordes_ | yep later all |
| 17:51.12 | ginge | reboot971: opens and closes directly? can you clarify? |
| 17:51.46 | reboot971 | euhm |
| 17:51.49 | ginge | reboot971: it was openmoko, right? |
| 17:51.53 | reboot971 | ye |
| 17:52.06 | reboot971 | i tap the message pictogram |
| 17:52.27 | reboot971 | than screen get's white is see left on top messenger of whatever and than it closes |
| 17:53.06 | ginge | I see. like a crash? |
| 17:53.14 | reboot971 | ye |
| 17:53.23 | reboot971 | but all the rest is working good |
| 17:53.26 | reboot971 | i can make call's |
| 17:54.23 | ginge | not a clue. I could teach you to talk AT commands to the phone to send an SMS, but no idea otherwise. Not used om |
| 17:54.51 | reboot971 | so u dont know any solution? |
| 17:55.39 | ginge | personally, no. If you hang around for a while maybe someone else will know. |
| 17:55.48 | reboot971 | k |
| 17:56.19 | reboot971 | can i install another messaging program? :) |
| 17:57.55 | reboot971 | oh yeah |
| 17:57.55 | ginge | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SMSTool maybe. |
| 17:58.53 | ginge | I recommend you read this wiki. It looks excellent. |
| 17:59.04 | reboot971 | if i want to download packages on my mobile how i do that? |
| 17:59.08 | reboot971 | only got a usb cable |
| 17:59.45 | ginge | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SMSTool#Installation_.2F_Execution |
| 17:59.55 | reboot971 | when i plug in i get new hardware windows rndis/ethernet gadget??? |
| 18:00.05 | ginge | I guess you need to setup the network. No doubt that is in the wiki too... |
| 18:00.34 | reboot971 | nope not in wiki |
| 18:00.49 | ginge | look harder ;) |
| 18:00.50 | ginge | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking |
| 18:01.29 | ginge | seems relatively simple. |
| 18:01.37 | ginge | I can help with this :) |
| 18:02.22 | ginge | what happens when you plug the phone in? |
| 18:02.49 | reboot971 | new hardware found message rndis/ethernet Gadget |
| 18:02.50 | kiozen | cr2: http://pastebin.no/11484 man this is some wired code |
| 18:03.07 | reboot971 | must i be in linux or can it be done in windows? |
| 18:05.37 | ginge | I don't see windows listed in the help. Not sure |
| 18:05.57 | ginge | blind leading the blind here |
| 18:06.27 | reboot971 | wait i'm gonna log into linux few moment's |
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| 18:28.35 | ginge | dcordes_: disabling sdio makes no difference |
| 18:34.16 | marajin | back guy |
| 18:34.16 | marajin | s |
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| 18:36.33 | reboot588 | back |
| 18:36.34 | ginge | hides |
| 18:36.39 | ginge | ;) |
| 18:36.55 | reboot588 | cannot open irc chat on linux |
| 18:36.55 | reboot588 | -.- |
| 18:37.24 | ginge | odd. |
| 18:37.29 | reboot588 | odd? |
| 18:37.43 | ginge | why can't you open irc in linux? |
| 18:38.07 | reboot588 | java |
| 18:38.12 | reboot588 | i only get a grey box |
| 18:38.37 | ginge | use a proper irc client instead |
| 18:38.49 | reboot588 | did that |
| 18:38.56 | reboot588 | but dont know anything bout them |
| 18:39.20 | ginge | ahh. you want to join a freenode network and choose a nick (name) |
| 18:39.24 | reboot588 | ah nvm it i got the feeling this aint gonna work |
| 18:39.33 | reboot588 | i'll just use wm2003se |
| 18:39.36 | kiozen | cr2: that seems to work now :) |
| 18:40.25 | ginge | reboot588: a shame. well, if this helps, I found a link to using usbnet in windows xp |
| 18:40.27 | ginge | http://docwiki.gumstix.org/Windows_XP_usbnet |
| 18:41.52 | reboot588 | where is the linux.inf ? |
| 18:42.55 | marajin | ah that, I remember doing that for getting my gp2x to talk to windows xp via usbnet |
| 18:43.32 | ginge | "...the linux.inf from the gumstix linux source tree (gumstix-buildroot/build_arm/linux-X/Documentation/usb)." |
| 18:44.46 | reboot588 | euhm |
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| 18:44.51 | reboot588 | wtf u talking about? :s |
| 18:45.29 | kiozen | cr2: think the real problem is some snafu qtopia vs. qlandkartem brighness settings |
| 18:46.33 | reboot588 | okay found linux.inf |
| 18:46.46 | reboot588 | now i got another network on the bottom right |
| 18:46.50 | reboot588 | what now? :) |
| 18:47.27 | ginge | errr... marajin? |
| 18:47.41 | ginge | I guess you are going to need some sort of routing |
| 18:48.13 | reboot588 | but than i got internet on my mobile right? |
| 18:48.16 | marajin | I have routing, what's the problem? |
| 18:49.00 | ginge | reboot588: you need to set up IP addresses I think |
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| 18:49.34 | ginge | give the new network card teh ip address 192.168.2.10 |
| 18:49.45 | ginge | from the phone ping the new ip |
| 18:50.26 | ginge | I think you will need to set the network up on the phone. Not sure how much om does for you |
| 18:50.57 | ginge | on the phone type ifconfig to see if you have a usb0 interface |
| 18:51.15 | marajin | ginge: why do I need routing? |
| 18:51.33 | ginge | marajin: you dont, reboot does. You said you did this before... |
| 18:51.50 | marajin | ginge: Yeah I set up winxp to use usbnet with my gp2x |
| 18:51.56 | reboot588 | how? |
| 18:52.07 | marajin | ginge: That was just kinda "install this .inf, plug it in, bobs yer uncle" |
| 18:52.14 | ginge | I assume you used ICS for routing? |
| 18:52.42 | marajin | ginge: Um no, I just used the link between the PC and the gp2x directly |
| 18:53.04 | ginge | I see. I suppose it depends on what you want the device to have access to |
| 18:53.12 | reboot588 | i got a new connection but it has ip problem's |
| 18:53.37 | ginge | ip problems? did you get the yellow box thing? |
| 18:53.43 | reboot588 | ye |
| 18:53.45 | marajin | ginge: Well it you want the device to see the internet you're going to have a headache on windowsXP |
| 18:53.48 | reboot588 | a yellow triangle |
| 18:54.04 | ginge | okay, right click on the network connection and to properties |
| 18:54.15 | ginge | brushes away some cobwebs |
| 18:54.23 | reboot588 | than? |
| 18:54.24 | marajin | I suppose ICS might work but I wouldn't trust ICS to shit its own trousers ya know what I mean? |
| 18:54.37 | ginge | marajin: yeah, I know exactly what you mean |
| 18:54.47 | reboot588 | i put on share network connection |
| 18:55.19 | marajin | ginge: ICS has some funny ideas about forcing an EXACT SPECIFIC configuration that is in no waynecessary. |
| 18:55.22 | ginge | reboot558: it probably needs an ip address. Go to tcp/ip and click properties |
| 18:55.42 | ginge | change the ip from dynamic to static and put the ip in |
| 18:56.58 | marajin | ginge: I think XP sets one anyway if it fails but it's a 169.x.x.x address |
| 18:56.58 | ginge | tries hard to sound like he knows wtf he is doing despite not having touched windows in god knows how long |
| 18:57.14 | ginge | 169 is the address you get when it fails, yes |
| 18:57.21 | marajin | ginge: So yeah you'll be wanting to manually set a 192.168 address |
| 18:57.58 | ginge | 192.168.2.10 (assuming the machine is probably using 192.168.1.x) |
| 18:58.48 | ginge | when you have done that we need to check the phone |
| 18:58.58 | ginge | bring up a terminal and do an ifconfig |
| 18:59.16 | ginge | if you see nothing about usb0 do "ifup usb0" no quotes |
| 19:01.17 | ginge | argh. I just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why the kernel is locking, only to find that I had put sleep instead of usleep. doh |
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| 19:01.50 | marajin | ginge: Heh :) |
| 19:02.05 | marajin | ginge: This situation could be improved by a 100% increase in number of pints! |
| 19:02.24 | ginge | what is 100% of 0 again? |
| 19:02.40 | ginge | I should rectify that really. |
| 19:02.46 | marajin | 1, for extremely large values of 0? ;) |
| 19:02.52 | ginge | lol |
| 19:03.33 | marajin | you're a programmer, 0 is 1 ;) |
| 19:03.43 | marajin | this is pint 0! |
| 19:03.59 | ginge | heh |
| 19:04.26 | ginge | we have a boot, but it failed to find the device |
| 19:04.40 | marajin | ginge: better than no boot, hopefully |
| 19:04.48 | ginge | progress |
| 19:04.53 | marajin | ginge: Exactly |
| 19:05.04 | marajin | ginge: So get yourself a drink to celebrate :) |
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| 19:09.24 | reboot638 | yo |
| 19:09.26 | reboot638 | i'm back |
| 19:09.54 | ginge | ypushzimage ../zImage haretfixup letsboogie logosifo |
| 19:10.07 | ginge | erm, yo (damn trackpad) |
| 19:10.34 | reboot638 | k |
| 19:10.40 | reboot638 | i got my connection i think |
| 19:10.47 | ginge | nice |
| 19:10.54 | ginge | can you ping the ip on the PC? |
| 19:11.06 | reboot638 | on pc or pda? |
| 19:11.13 | ginge | pda |
| 19:11.22 | reboot638 | how i do that |
| 19:11.24 | ginge | ping 192.168.2.10 |
| 19:11.25 | reboot638 | terminal? |
| 19:11.34 | ginge | yeah, in a terminal |
| 19:11.59 | ginge | anyone know how I can stop accidentally pasting when I catch the trackpad with my palm? |
| 19:12.27 | tcccp | practise |
| 19:12.29 | tcccp | runs |
| 19:12.39 | ginge | lol |
| 19:12.47 | reboot638 | output: PING 192.168.2.10 (192.168.2.10): 56 data bytes |
| 19:12.54 | ginge | fail |
| 19:13.09 | ginge | what does ifconfig say? |
| 19:13.16 | reboot638 | on computer? |
| 19:13.20 | ginge | pda |
| 19:13.23 | ginge | type ifconfig |
| 19:13.37 | ginge | look for usb in the list |
| 19:14.29 | reboot638 | usb 0 link encap: ethernet hwaddr 1e..... |
| 19:14.43 | ginge | inet addr:? |
| 19:14.47 | exco | btw, reboot638 the bootscreen you get is real :-) |
| 19:14.58 | reboot638 | inet addr: 192.168.27.2 |
| 19:15.04 | reboot638 | how u mean exco? |
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| 19:15.07 | reboot638 | oh ye |
| 19:15.08 | reboot638 | nice |
| 19:15.09 | reboot638 | xD |
| 19:15.30 | ginge | ok, change the ip on the pc to 192.168.27.10 then |
| 19:15.49 | ginge | then from the pda ping that ^^ ip |
| 19:16.31 | reboot638 | same output |
| 19:16.50 | reboot638 | but than 27 |
| 19:17.05 | ginge | nothing like; 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=1.50 ms |
| 19:17.25 | reboot638 | nope |
| 19:17.31 | reboot638 | output: PING 192.168.2.10 (192.168.2.10): 56 data bytes |
| 19:17.50 | ginge | ping 192.168.27.10 |
| 19:18.00 | reboot638 | typed that |
| 19:18.04 | ginge | ok |
| 19:18.12 | reboot638 | i get the same output than with 27 ipv 2 |
| 19:18.46 | reboot638 | exco u maybe know how it comes i cant open text messaging? |
| 19:18.49 | ginge | try to ping the pda form the pc |
| 19:18.55 | reboot638 | how |
| 19:19.13 | reboot638 | time out |
| 19:19.35 | reboot638 | 4 packages lost |
| 19:19.40 | reboot638 | so it isn't connected |
| 19:19.43 | ginge | you changed the tcp ip address in xp to the new 27 addr |
| 19:19.49 | reboot638 | euhm |
| 19:19.58 | reboot638 | the icon of usb connection is gone on my pda |
| 19:19.59 | reboot638 | :s |
| 19:20.06 | reboot638 | only see it now |
| 19:20.13 | reboot638 | gonna reset it |
| 19:20.14 | reboot638 | one sec |
| 19:20.23 | ginge | "have you tried turning it off and on again" |
| 19:20.31 | reboot638 | going to do that now |
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| 19:21.27 | reboot638 | hope i get this working |
| 19:21.39 | reboot638 | the linux is awsome i only want to send text messages xD |
| 19:21.39 | ginge | me too |
| 19:22.02 | Marex | linux is broken |
| 19:22.08 | reboot638 | heh? |
| 19:22.08 | exco | reboot638: well I told you it' not flly functional |
| 19:22.16 | tcccp | Marex: I prefer OpenBSD also ;) |
| 19:22.24 | reboot638 | but |
| 19:22.26 | reboot638 | euhm |
| 19:22.31 | reboot638 | u can send text messages right? |
| 19:22.34 | Marex | tcccp: I never said I prefer openbsd ;) |
| 19:22.42 | tcccp | NOT? |
| 19:22.43 | tcccp | ;) |
| 19:22.46 | ginge | reboot638: I guess not |
| 19:22.54 | Marex | tcccp: nor any other kernel |
| 19:23.01 | Marex | brb |
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| 19:23.11 | reboot638 | eugh |
| 19:23.17 | reboot638 | i can phone and everything |
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| 19:23.25 | ginge | unless you can install that extra package |
| 19:23.29 | reboot638 | yup |
| 19:23.30 | exco | btw, reboot638 192.168.27.1/32 usb0 linux box 192.168.27.2/32 usb0 linux Smartphone |
| 19:23.31 | exco | |
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| 19:23.59 | reboot638 | i'm in windows xD |
| 19:24.00 | exco | gateway is also set to ...1 |
| 19:24.08 | exco | whatever |
| 19:24.14 | reboot638 | wow wait :) |
| 19:24.16 | reboot638 | chill |
| 19:24.22 | ginge | chills |
| 19:24.25 | reboot638 | i need to do it step by step xD |
| 19:24.27 | maverick2k | ls |
| 19:24.34 | exco | the device is still setup like that |
| 19:24.38 | maverick2k | sorry wrong window ;) |
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| 19:25.18 | reboot638 | plugged in my usb cable but not seeing the usb icon on my pda display |
| 19:26.03 | exco | orange led on? |
| 19:26.03 | reboot638 | so exco what are my settings in windows for the connection? |
| 19:26.11 | reboot638 | yup orange led is on |
| 19:26.28 | exco | I cant help you there (win) but |
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| 19:27.02 | exco | Ican tell you the settings I used in Ubuntu and you might be able to adopt |
| 19:27.34 | reboot638 | i need to fill in ip, subnetmasker, geteway and dns :) |
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| 19:27.52 | reboot638 | in my tcp/ip configuration |
| 19:27.52 | exco | thats easy |
| 19:28.08 | exco | well step by step, ok? |
| 19:28.16 | reboot638 | k =) |
| 19:28.32 | exco | check if the module is loaded on xda |
| 19:28.44 | exco | lsmod | grep g_ether |
| 19:28.46 | reboot638 | okay what module and xda? |
| 19:29.13 | ginge | damn forgot about g_ether |
| 19:29.15 | exco | xda = Magician cause 1handed typing sucks |
| 19:29.39 | reboot638 | how can i typ this one on pda | |
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| 19:29.52 | exco | open a terminal |
| 19:30.15 | exco | go to apps expand to all and open terminal |
| 19:30.25 | reboot638 | i'm in terminal |
| 19:30.40 | marajin | sorry, I ... am nearly back, le sigh |
| 19:30.41 | marajin | back shortly |
| 19:31.07 | reboot638 | it gives me a new commandline when i typ that |
| 19:31.38 | exco | so it' not loaaded |
| 19:31.46 | reboot638 | what isn't loaded? |
| 19:31.52 | exco | or you have a typo |
| 19:32.01 | exco | g_ether module |
| 19:32.10 | reboot638 | lsmod | grep g_ether |
| 19:32.14 | reboot638 | i typed that |
| 19:32.42 | exco | so type sudo modprobe g_ether |
| 19:33.21 | maverick2k | I'm busy on a Himalay, have compiled a kernel but can't seem to connect to the console: |
| 19:33.26 | maverick2k | set cmdline "root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=10 console=ttyUSB0,115200n8" |
| 19:33.50 | maverick2k | the ppc is connected with a usb cradle |
| 19:33.54 | reboot638 | output of sudo modprobe g_ether: /bin/sh: sudo: not found |
| 19:34.05 | cr2 | kiozen: uh. really convoluted code. i'm deep in the battery monitor code. |
| 19:34.17 | maverick2k | but there are no /devices in /dev |
| 19:34.24 | exco | well forget about sudo |
| 19:34.36 | reboot638 | deleted the sudo |
| 19:34.37 | exco | you're already root |
| 19:34.50 | reboot638 | output: FATAL module g_ether not found |
| 19:35.15 | marajin | right I'm back |
| 19:35.46 | exco | sounds interesting |
| 19:35.58 | reboot638 | ye kinda -.- not |
| 19:36.01 | reboot638 | xD |
| 19:36.04 | exco | ifconfig lists usb0? |
| 19:36.06 | Marex | cr2: why arent you deep in the asoc code ? ;p |
| 19:36.08 | reboot638 | yup |
| 19:36.18 | dcordes_ | also me |
| 19:36.52 | exco | should be fine then... still using that image I sent you |
| 19:36.52 | exco | ? |
| 19:36.57 | reboot638 | yup |
| 19:36.58 | reboot638 | one sec |
| 19:37.00 | Marex | cr2: you know ... wm8750 :) |
| 19:37.00 | reboot638 | i give output |
| 19:37.12 | exco | of what? |
| 19:38.49 | reboot638 | usb0 link encap : ethernet hwaddr ba: db:e1:4a:79:73 inet addr: 192.168.27.2 bcast: 192.168.27.255 mask: 255.255.255.0 up broadcast running multicast mtu: 1500 metric:1 |
| 19:38.55 | reboot638 | ifconfig |
| 19:39.10 | maverick2k | usbdev3.16_ep00 |
| 19:39.10 | maverick2k | ptyac ptyq4 ptyvc sda1 ttya4 ttypc ttyv0 usbdev3.16_ep02 |
| 19:39.10 | maverick2k | ptyad ptyq5 ptyvd sda2 ttya5 ttypd ttyv1 usbdev3.16_ep81 |
| 19:39.11 | maverick2k | ptyae ptyq6 ptyve sda5 ttya6 ttype ttyv2 usbdev3.16_ep85 |
| 19:39.12 | exco | well that's what I put there |
| 19:39.26 | reboot638 | u did that? |
| 19:39.33 | exco | yes |
| 19:39.37 | reboot638 | oh |
| 19:39.39 | reboot638 | so |
| 19:39.44 | maverick2k | does any body what usbdev3.16_ep02 etc are? |
| 19:39.55 | reboot638 | i dont for sure :) |
| 19:40.14 | exco | tcp ip settins in win of that connection |
| 19:40.53 | reboot638 | u know dns to? |
| 19:41.00 | reboot638 | or just leave it blanc? |
| 19:41.26 | exco | if you want to go online with the xda you'll need it |
| 19:41.44 | reboot638 | ye that is what i need xD |
| 19:41.54 | reboot638 | but is it my dns or the one of the pda? |
| 19:42.08 | exco | I'd put ip: 192.168.27.1 |
| 19:42.08 | reboot638 | my dns is 195.130.129.163 |
| 19:42.21 | reboot638 | in my xda the ip is 192.168.27.2 |
| 19:42.36 | reboot638 | inet addr: 192.168.27.2 |
| 19:42.39 | exco | gateway and dns also 192.168.27.1 |
| 19:42.50 | exco | yes, that's right |
| 19:43.09 | reboot638 | so my gateway and dns are 192.168.27.2? |
| 19:43.12 | exco | after those settings try pinging from both sides |
| 19:43.19 | exco | for now |
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| 19:43.29 | exco | no |
| 19:43.54 | reboot638 | k |
| 19:43.59 | exco | 192.168.27.1 for ip, gateway and dns on your computer |
| 19:44.13 | reboot638 | well i took .2 and i get alot of output lines |
| 19:44.52 | reboot638 | 64 bytes from 192.168.27.2: icmp_seq 50 ttl=64 time=0.5 ms |
| 19:44.59 | reboot638 | is that what i need or not? |
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| 19:45.45 | reboot638 | on my computer send 4 receved 4 |
| 19:45.45 | exco | ping from where to where |
| 19:46.03 | reboot638 | from pda to coputer i get 64 bytes from 192.168.27.2: icmp_seq 50 ttl=64 time=0.5 ms |
| 19:46.18 | reboot638 | from computer to pda i get euhm |
| 19:46.19 | exco | well of course |
| 19:46.33 | exco | thats like pinging localhost |
| 19:46.39 | reboot638 | packages send:4 receved 4 lost 0 |
| 19:46.42 | reboot638 | oh |
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| 19:46.54 | exco | ping 192.168.27.1 from xda |
| 19:47.29 | reboot638 | k |
| 19:47.29 | cr2 | Marex: garmin has done that for me :) |
| 19:48.06 | reboot638 | okay output lines keep coming just like before |
| 19:48.47 | exco | so that's fine |
| 19:48.59 | reboot638 | 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq= 48 ttl= 128 time=1.5,1.4 ms |
| 19:49.15 | reboot638 | and the icmp_seq= keep's on counting |
| 19:49.21 | reboot638 | 92 now |
| 19:49.23 | exco | try pinging google.com from xda |
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| 19:49.46 | exco | that's your next goal... |
| 19:50.23 | Marex | cr2: garmin ? |
| 19:50.35 | reboot638 | just with the web browser? |
| 19:50.56 | exco | terminal |
| 19:51.14 | reboot638 | how? |
| 19:51.22 | reboot638 | just typing www.google.com? |
| 19:51.32 | exco | "ping google.com" |
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| 19:52.10 | exco | ping google.com |
| 19:52.10 | exco | PING google.com (64.233.167.99) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 19:52.10 | exco | 64 bytes from py-in-f99.google.com (64.233.167.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=242 time=144 ms |
| 19:52.12 | reboot638 | okay output: ping: google.com: host name lookup failure |
| 19:52.19 | reboot638 | but euhm |
| 19:52.29 | reboot638 | i think my computer see's the connection as incoming |
| 19:52.31 | reboot638 | not outgoing |
| 19:52.32 | exco | so your dns is wrong |
| 19:53.02 | reboot638 | dns is 192.168.27.1 |
| 19:53.03 | exco | try "ping 64.233.167.99" |
| 19:53.25 | exco | if fails ... no route / route wrong |
| 19:54.11 | reboot638 | output: ping 64.233.167.99 (64.233.167.99): 56 data bytes |
| 19:54.21 | maverick2k | does anyone know if WM6 give a USB console where you can see CLIENTCLIENTCLIENT, on my ppc there is no PORT for that |
| 19:55.07 | reboot638 | dont i need to share the internet connection? |
| 19:55.28 | exco | sorry, maverick2k, no wm6 device at hand |
| 19:55.40 | exco | yes you do |
| 19:56.42 | exco | ics or bridge? |
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| 19:56.52 | reboot804 | rofl |
| 19:57.10 | reboot804 | it's shared now |
| 19:57.13 | reboot804 | try again? |
| 19:57.18 | exco | sure |
| 19:57.38 | reboot804 | still host name lookup failure |
| 19:58.02 | exco | gateway is 27.1? |
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| 19:58.41 | reboot649 | woops |
| 19:59.01 | reboot649 | maybe i should restart my device for a time? |
| 19:59.12 | exco | no |
| 19:59.16 | reboot649 | k |
| 19:59.23 | exco | It's not windows |
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| 20:00.19 | exco | tracepath google.com |
| 20:00.19 | reboot649 | do i maybe need to open port's? |
| 20:00.32 | exco | don't think so |
| 20:01.00 | reboot649 | tracepath not found |
| 20:01.16 | wasup | hey evewryone |
| 20:01.23 | exco | hey wasup |
| 20:01.35 | ginge | exco: resolve.conf? |
| 20:02.03 | wasup | how are you doing exco? |
| 20:02.33 | exco | ginge: you're right, but I think it's set to the desktop's ip |
| 20:02.37 | reboot649 | u know what's weird :s down on the left of my screen it show's me 2 perfect working internet connections |
| 20:02.48 | wasup | dude.. The time of android is near on the titan..i can feel it.. |
| 20:02.55 | ginge | exco: the desktop will need ICS setting up, or soem kind of proxy installing |
| 20:03.09 | exco | wasup: thanks, fine (apart a double broken right arm) how 'r you? |
| 20:03.28 | wasup | i'm good.. how'd u break it? |
| 20:03.44 | exco | damd car ran me over yesterday |
| 20:03.59 | reboot649 | can we try with ics? maybe that's the only way it could work |
| 20:04.09 | exco | so excuse my typos ... left hand only |
| 20:04.24 | wasup | r u f^%$ing serious? |
| 20:04.41 | exco | sure. if you ever set up ics that should be the easiest way, reboot649 |
| 20:04.49 | exco | wasup: yes |
| 20:04.59 | wasup | wtf? did you sue? |
| 20:05.05 | reboot649 | okay |
| 20:05.09 | exco | my bike still is at the police station |
| 20:05.10 | reboot649 | where i download. |
| 20:05.23 | exco | ics, reboot649? |
| 20:05.29 | reboot649 | yes |
| 20:05.34 | exco | it comes with xp |
| 20:05.36 | wasup | dude.. my friend got hit by a public transportation bus.. and is sueing for a few mill.. |
| 20:05.47 | wasup | Glad your ok though |
| 20:05.52 | reboot649 | oh |
| 20:05.58 | reboot649 | and how i set it up |
| 20:06.03 | exco | well that'd be great, but I live in de |
| 20:06.11 | reboot649 | make a connectionbridge between both of my connections? |
| 20:06.12 | exco | so no mills for me |
| 20:06.38 | exco | ics OR bridge - it's not the same |
| 20:06.48 | reboot649 | :( |
| 20:06.55 | exco | I'd bridge |
| 20:07.06 | reboot649 | so i make a bridge now? |
| 20:07.11 | exco | yes |
| 20:07.36 | exco | you can try whatever you like :-) |
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| 20:08.07 | reboot836 | okay i got my bridge what now? |
| 20:08.46 | reboot836 | brb gonna get smoke |
| 20:08.48 | reboot836 | outside |
| 20:09.51 | exco | what does ipconfig tell you (!pastebin) |
| 20:10.12 | ginge | dcordes_,marajin: it can see the mmc card now, but not initialise it! |
| 20:12.07 | reboot836 | where do i need to type ipconfig? |
| 20:13.08 | exco | win commandline |
| 20:13.29 | exco | open it using run (win+r) type cmd |
| 20:13.30 | reboot836 | 64 bytes from 192.168.27.2: icmp_seq 50 ttl=64 time=0.5 ms |
| 20:13.34 | reboot836 | ow wrong one |
| 20:13.48 | reboot836 | Microsoft Windows XP [versie 5.1.2600] |
| 20:13.51 | reboot836 | eugh |
| 20:14.07 | reboot836 | Ethernet-adapter Netwerkbrug: |
| 20:14.17 | reboot836 | Ethernet-adapter Netwerkbrug: |
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| 20:14.19 | reboot836 | wth |
| 20:14.34 | exco | pastebin.com |
| 20:14.41 | reboot836 | huh? |
| 20:15.21 | wasup | hey when linux boots on my titan i get sh: can't access tty; job control turned off... is that normal |
| 20:15.39 | reboot836 | ipconfig says: ip adress: 192.168.1.103 mask: 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 |
| 20:16.04 | exco | try pinging 192.168.1.1 from xda |
| 20:16.19 | exco | wasup: sorry, don't know |
| 20:17.27 | reboot836 | ping 192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1): 65 data bytes |
| 20:18.11 | exco | so it works? should't it say ttl and time? |
| 20:18.33 | reboot836 | it doesnt say ttl and time |
| 20:18.59 | ginge | wasup: yes, but only if the init didn't initialise the framebuffer to use a tty device |
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| 20:19.19 | reboot873 | woops |
| 20:19.25 | reboot873 | did u say anything? :s |
| 20:20.11 | exco | so ping 1.2.3.4 gives the same output? |
| 20:20.25 | reboot873 | yup |
| 20:20.33 | wasup | how do i find that out? |
| 20:20.48 | exco | and pinging 192.168.27.1? |
| 20:21.02 | ginge | wasup: there is an entry in the busybox FAQ iirc |
| 20:22.03 | reboot873 | gives the same output |
| 20:22.51 | exco | so your connection xda <-> desktop doesn't even work |
| 20:23.11 | reboot873 | it work's otherwise i wouldnt be able to make bridge |
| 20:23.49 | exco | apparently not |
| 20:24.23 | reboot873 | but if i typ ipconfig /all nowhere is the ip 192.168.1.27 |
| 20:24.26 | reboot873 | euhm |
| 20:24.29 | reboot873 | 192.168.27.1 |
| 20:24.33 | reboot873 | not in the list |
| 20:24.42 | exco | yes because you bridged |
| 20:25.00 | reboot873 | ye |
| 20:25.10 | reboot873 | and 192.168.1.1 is my router ip |
| 20:25.18 | reboot873 | local ip |
| 20:25.35 | exco | so now you either adapt the usb0 and resolv.conf on xda |
| 20:25.48 | exco | to match your bridges ip |
| 20:25.57 | reboot873 | how u mean? |
| 20:26.04 | exco | or use ics instead of bridge |
| 20:26.11 | reboot873 | how i set up ics? |
| 20:26.20 | reboot873 | remove bridge first? |
| 20:26.28 | exco | listen |
| 20:26.37 | exco | you have several options |
| 20:26.58 | reboot873 | ye |
| 20:27.13 | exco | may I ask you what you're trying to achieve in the long run? |
| 20:27.26 | reboot873 | heh? |
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| 20:28.10 | marajin | ginge: Wooooo! |
| 20:28.16 | marajin | ginge: On the seeing the card now :) |
| 20:29.01 | ginge | yeah, I just got the card detection code working :) |
| 20:29.13 | wasup | <ginge> wasup: there is an entry in the busybox FAQ iirc ...where is that? |
| 20:29.15 | reboot873 | exco u maybe got msn or something? than i go into linux maybe that work's :) |
| 20:29.23 | ginge | wasup: one mo |
| 20:29.31 | wasup | k |
| 20:29.35 | exco | play with it a bit - If you want to use bridge the bridge basically makes those bridged connections act as one (read up omn it using google) |
| 20:30.00 | ginge | wasup: http://busybox.net/FAQ.html#job_control |
| 20:30.55 | exco | so option 1 - bridge - adapt the xda to use that ip instead of 27.1 |
| 20:30.59 | ginge | wasup: no idea how you would actually do that though. I just waited dcordes_ to make an angstrom image that has a proper tty init |
| 20:31.13 | exco | (cause your bridge isn't 27.1) |
| 20:31.49 | exco | option 2 - no bridge - ICS ... settings with 27.1 should work |
| 20:32.06 | reboot873 | but explain wath ics is |
| 20:32.15 | exco | option 3 ubuntu and masquerade |
| 20:32.21 | exco | ... and so on |
| 20:32.26 | reboot873 | i want to use ubuntu |
| 20:32.30 | reboot873 | but i cant open irc on it |
| 20:32.47 | AstainZZZZZZ | why can't you? |
| 20:32.51 | reboot873 | idk |
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| 20:32.57 | reboot873 | i installed a jave controller |
| 20:32.58 | exco | but what then? you can browse the we uaing xda and usb cable ... yeah |
| 20:33.05 | reboot873 | but that one doesn't work |
| 20:33.09 | reboot873 | i disinstalled it |
| 20:33.11 | AstainZZZZZZ | use xchat or something |
| 20:33.17 | reboot873 | and tryd another one still not working |
| 20:33.23 | reboot873 | keep getting the grey box |
| 20:33.29 | exco | ICS internet connection sharing |
| 20:33.49 | reboot873 | i tryd ics allready than not working |
| 20:34.01 | exco | ubuntu install pidgeon or xchat to use irc |
| 20:34.03 | reboot873 | exco give me ur msn or something than i log in to ubuntu |
| 20:35.23 | reboot873 | or wait i just gonna get java working |
| 20:35.31 | reboot873 | see u ppl in an hour or something :) |
| 20:35.42 | wasup | yeah i think ill just wait then |
| 20:35.50 | wasup | haha.. im not the hacking type.. |
| 20:35.56 | ginge | wasup: what image do you use? |
| 20:36.03 | wasup | dzo latest |
| 20:36.09 | exco | :-P wasup |
| 20:36.17 | wasup | hahaha |
| 20:36.39 | wasup | The one that is on his site but not directly linked to. |
| 20:36.44 | wasup | is there a newer one? |
| 20:36.44 | ginge | you could try one of the kaiser angstrom images |
| 20:36.54 | wasup | got a link for that? |
| 20:36.59 | ginge | I don't know. what did you get from him? |
| 20:37.20 | ginge | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
| 20:37.29 | wasup | the newest zimage |
| 20:37.30 | ginge | the tslib image seems to work quite well |
| 20:37.33 | wasup | with sd |
| 20:37.41 | wasup | support |
| 20:37.54 | ginge | it doesn't have much in it. sd will probably not work without manual intervention |
| 20:38.39 | ginge | is it a problem that you are getting this issue? Do you press control-c a lot? |
| 20:38.42 | wasup | yeah.. so i have noticed.. but it does recognize it |
| 20:39.23 | wasup | mmc0: new sd card at adress 254b |
| 20:40.41 | wasup | hey im gonna try to boot the angstrom.. should i remove the ram address's in the default? |
| 20:41.21 | ginge | use the vogue default and change the image |
| 20:42.11 | wasup | hey... tslib ornjust the regular one? |
| 20:42.22 | Marex | cr2: are you familiar with gpiolib ? |
| 20:42.43 | ginge | tslib has the tty fix |
| 20:42.53 | wasup | ok.. why is it so much smaller? |
| 20:43.01 | ginge | because it doesn't have anything in it |
| 20:43.08 | ginge | it is bare minimum |
| 20:43.16 | wasup | oh. ok.. |
| 20:43.26 | ginge | what are you intending to do? |
| 20:44.25 | wasup | idk yet.. hahaha |
| 20:44.41 | wasup | just testing then seeing what the possibilities will be.. |
| 20:44.55 | ginge | ok. the tslib one at least looks pretty when booting |
| 20:45.08 | wasup | should i keep dzo's zImage-sd or the one on the server? |
| 20:45.18 | ginge | keep dzo's |
| 20:45.21 | wasup | k |
| 20:47.45 | wasup | hmm... so.. its just kinda frozen on the booting linux... |
| 20:49.00 | wasup | i'm gonna take out the set RAMSIZE 0x7800000 and ramaddr line |
| 20:50.00 | wasup | same thing... hmm.. wierd |
| 20:50.31 | ginge | your default should be dzo's but with a different image name |
| 20:50.56 | wasup | ok.. ill try that.. |
| 20:53.08 | wasup | Holy sh |
| 20:53.10 | wasup | it |
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| 20:53.32 | wasup | htckaiser login: |
| 20:54.04 | ginge | root |
| 20:55.10 | wasup | got to reboot.. my keyboard stopped responding.. |
| 20:55.19 | wasup | what happends when I type root? |
| 20:55.46 | ginge | you log in |
| 20:56.14 | wasup | yeah.. but like.. what are the possibilities after i login? |
| 20:56.18 | wasup | can i ssh? |
| 20:56.28 | wasup | or is usb still not included? |
| 20:56.46 | wasup | wait not ssh |
| 20:57.01 | wasup | im confusing myself |
| 20:57.57 | ginge | usb still not working on vogue afaik |
| 20:58.34 | wasup | login[776]: root login on tty1 |
| 20:58.54 | wasup | root@htckaiser: |
| 20:59.26 | ginge | I don't know if dcordes put the ppp.sh script in that image, and I doubt it has ssh etc |
| 20:59.45 | wasup | oh.. :( |
| 20:59.55 | ginge | you could try the other image on the site |
| 21:00.04 | ginge | that has gprs and ssh |
| 21:00.30 | wasup | well i type ssh on the promt and it says |
| 21:00.45 | wasup | dropbear client v0.51 |
| 21:00.52 | wasup | then gives me usage commands |
| 21:01.19 | ginge | nice |
| 21:01.23 | ginge | ok, I take it back |
| 21:01.31 | wasup | u think my mac will connect to it? |
| 21:01.35 | ginge | look in sbin for ppp.sh |
| 21:01.38 | ginge | usb doesn't work |
| 21:01.56 | wasup | cd sbin? |
| 21:02.06 | ginge | ls /sbin/ppp* |
| 21:06.32 | marajin | yeesh, will I get any peace today -.- |
| 21:06.41 | marajin | ginge: Apparently 2 stabbings and someone caught with a gun |
| 21:06.55 | ginge | marajin: you have been busy |
| 21:07.07 | marajin | ginge: Must have been sleep-chav-murdering again |
| 21:07.19 | ginge | marajin: I didn;t think it was that bad there? |
| 21:07.27 | marajin | In bolton? |
| 21:07.29 | marajin | bahahah |
| 21:07.31 | marajin | yeah it is |
| 21:07.41 | marajin | It's not salford but.. |
| 21:07.50 | marajin | it's not exactly a peaceful town |
| 21:10.31 | miknix | guys.. whats the difference between IM and IL GPIOS on OMAP? |
| 21:11.45 | miknix | like GPIOS GPIO3-IL: IL76(76)=0 and GPIOS GPIO3-IM: IM76(844)=0 |
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| 21:15.15 | reboot387 | whohoo got it working |
| 21:15.46 | reboot387 | got java working now |
| 21:16.47 | wasup | hey i can't type the * |
| 21:17.01 | wasup | but i typed ls /sbin/ppp no such file or directory |
| 21:17.41 | reboot387 | exco u here? |
| 21:18.59 | ginge | wasup just press tab after the ppp |
| 21:19.14 | ginge | or type ppp.sh and see what happens |
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| 21:21.20 | exco | yes |
| 21:21.47 | reboot387 | k |
| 21:21.51 | reboot387 | i'm in ubuntu now :) |
| 21:22.37 | exco | ok what do you want to do |
| 21:23.24 | reboot387 | making my pda able to acces the internet :) |
| 21:23.35 | exco | ok |
| 21:24.33 | reboot387 | i can allready ping my device by the console and my computer by my pda |
| 21:24.48 | exco | nice |
| 21:24.57 | reboot387 | rob@rob-desktop:~$ sudo su [sudo] password for rob: root@rob-desktop:/home/rob# ifconfig usb0 192.168.27.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 root@rob-desktop:/home/rob# ping 192.168.27.1 PING 192.168.27.1 (192.168.27.1) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.050 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.035 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.043 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp |
| 21:25.06 | reboot387 | see |
| 21:25.42 | exco | remember .27.2 = xda |
| 21:25.54 | exco | .27.1 = ubuntu box |
| 21:25.59 | wasup | dude... android is so... close on my titan.. |
| 21:26.52 | reboot387 | root@rob-desktop:/home/rob# ssh root@192.168.27.2 The authenticity of host '192.168.27.2 (192.168.27.2)' can't be established. RSA key fingerprint is 2c:79:7b:7f:d4:64:a5:ae:f3:80:af:62:4f:36:27:1c. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? y Please type 'yes' or 'no': yes Warning: Permanently added '192.168.27.2' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. root@192.168.27.2's password: root@magician:~$ |
| 21:26.53 | exco | so ping 192.168.27.1 from ubuntu doesn't tell you that there' a working connection |
| 21:27.07 | reboot387 | i'm logged into my magician now |
| 21:27.29 | reboot387 | so i think it's working now |
| 21:27.31 | exco | but the pasted lines say |
| 21:28.23 | exco | ... ping 192.168.27.1 from xda gives? |
| 21:28.56 | reboot387 | 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.8 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.27.1: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.8 ms |
| 21:29.12 | exco | that's good |
| 21:29.14 | exco | ssh? |
| 21:29.26 | reboot387 | ssh? |
| 21:29.41 | exco | so ping google.com works? |
| 21:29.59 | reboot387 | nope |
| 21:30.05 | reboot387 | it's local only i think |
| 21:30.29 | exco | ok sudo -s |
| 21:30.36 | exco | on ubunzu |
| 21:30.45 | exco | sss ubun |
| 21:30.50 | exco | tu i mean |
| 21:31.02 | exco | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.46 | reboot387 | root@rob-desktop:~# echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward root@rob-desktop:~# |
| 21:32.27 | reboot387 | Edit /etc/network/interfaces: auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.0.0 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 & up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward & up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT & down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.0.0/24 & |
| 21:32.33 | reboot387 | isn't that wat i need to do? |
| 21:32.47 | reboot387 | http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Networking#Ubuntu_.28Tested_with_Feisty.2C_Gutsy_and_Hardy.29 |
| 21:33.36 | exco | well yes, but you have to use IP's according to your config |
| 21:33.41 | reboot387 | ye |
| 21:33.54 | exco | so that would be |
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| 21:35.04 | reboot387 | like this |
| 21:35.05 | reboot387 | auto usb0 iface usb0 inet static address 192.168.27.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 network 192.168.27.2 up iptables -A POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.27.2/24 & up echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward & up iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT & down iptables -D POSTROUTING -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.27.2/24 & |
| 21:35.50 | StyleWarz | would you guys mind using a nopaste service? =) |
| 21:36.02 | reboot387 | soz |
| 21:36.34 | tcccp | StyleWarz: https://nopaste.eof.name/700 |
| 21:37.05 | StyleWarz | hey tcccp ã |
| 21:37.12 | tcccp | jo StyleWarz |
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| 21:37.53 | StyleWarz | tcccp: https://nopaste.eof.name/701 |
| 21:38.09 | tcccp | hrhrhrhr |
| 21:38.47 | StyleWarz | hrhr /exec -o figlet seemed to be too disturbing =) |
| 21:40.27 | exco | reboot387: got got my message? |
| 21:40.27 | tcccp | StyleWarz: /exec -o zcat /proc/config.gz |
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| 21:40.42 | StyleWarz | tcccp: buuuuh! linux! |
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| 21:40.58 | tcccp | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.00 | StyleWarz | i want to boot freebsd off everything ;) |
| 21:41.00 | tcccp | better? |
| 21:41.03 | StyleWarz | yes |
| 21:41.14 | StyleWarz | i'd for sure love to read that good night story =) |
| 21:41.26 | tcccp | StyleWarz: Well - I actually want to use my PDA so I need an OS which is able to handle my 3G Modem |
| 21:41.34 | StyleWarz | hrhrhrhr |
| 21:41.45 | tcccp | Nooo OpenBSD on this embedded device |
| 21:41.48 | StyleWarz | my blueangel still doesn't work as intendet |
| 21:42.01 | tcccp | My keymap suxx on the iPaq |
| 21:42.03 | StyleWarz | opferbsd ã |
| 21:42.08 | tcccp | StyleWarz: stfu ;) |
| 21:42.15 | StyleWarz | theobsd, better? ;) |
| 21:42.34 | tcccp | StyleWarz: I designed routing firewalls based on an embedded OpenBSD |
| 21:42.39 | tcccp | What do you think is my first choice? |
| 21:42.45 | StyleWarz | freebsd? *eg* |
| 21:43.00 | tcccp | slaps StyleWarz around with a fat juicy OpenBSD kernel reference |
| 21:43.17 | StyleWarz | my final exam i had to write a project for was an openbsd firewall too ;) |
| 21:43.27 | tcccp | of course OpenBSD ;) |
| 21:43.34 | StyleWarz | altho nobody that read that stuff realized that i just copy and pasted an iptables rules skript ;) |
| 21:43.43 | tcccp | hrhr |
| 21:43.49 | StyleWarz | i just wanted to pick a topic nobody had a clue of =) |
| 21:43.56 | StyleWarz | therefore pass with flying colors :D |
| 21:44.10 | tcccp | I'm the only guy telling the IHK Stadthagen about man in the middle attack during my final exam |
| 21:44.27 | StyleWarz | well the first question was "why not suse linux?" |
| 21:44.35 | StyleWarz | ihk is just so stupid.. |
| 21:44.48 | tcccp | "'Cause I'm no stupid fucking ComputerBILD reader?" |
| 21:45.14 | StyleWarz | i just told them that a firewall is intendet to be "secure" and with that yast bimbam nobody can really keep his crap up2date |
| 21:45.39 | tcccp | hrhrhr |
| 21:45.41 | StyleWarz | plus i like ipf a lot more |
| 21:45.45 | tcccp | aye |
| 21:45.56 | StyleWarz | anyway, didn't have time to write a script that looked long enough to mean something =) |
| 21:45.57 | tcccp | pf is so clean, nice and can do a lot more |
| 21:46.16 | tcccp | My project has never been released ;) |
| 21:46.42 | tcccp | The day after passing the test I went back to the army to have some fun doing demolition |
| 21:46.47 | StyleWarz | mine neither, it was basically only realized on the pdf i wrote ;) |
| 21:47.02 | tcccp | I have written a webmin plugin |
| 21:47.07 | StyleWarz | ah neat |
| 21:47.11 | tcccp | I built the WebGUI |
| 21:47.14 | tcccp | but no backend |
| 21:47.15 | StyleWarz | altho i've never used webmin |
| 21:47.16 | StyleWarz | =) |
| 21:47.17 | tcccp | O:-) |
| 21:47.56 | tcccp | Webmin is easy as soon as you have figured how the webmin-specific methods work |
| 21:47.59 | StyleWarz | i'm just wondering where my pickup for the disco is.. he should've been texting me after his date :/ |
| 21:48.03 | tcccp | and if you are willing to code perl |
| 21:48.15 | StyleWarz | i don't like perl ;) |
| 21:48.20 | tcccp | Same here |
| 21:48.29 | tcccp | I do nothing in perl I could do in bash/ksh |
| 21:48.34 | StyleWarz | and i also don't like browsers that much =) i'll stay with my console |
| 21:48.43 | tcccp | I had no choice |
| 21:48.43 | StyleWarz | ah i do all my stuff in ruby =) |
| 21:48.56 | tcccp | *sh ;) |
| 21:49.04 | ginge | dzo: ping got a clock related question |
| 21:49.06 | tcccp | nowadays there's even bash for VMS |
| 21:49.22 | tcccp | But coding bash-scripts on VMS is kinda ugly |
| 21:49.23 | StyleWarz | just gives me a shiver whenever i shorten the code by another X lines |
| 21:49.26 | tcccp | I use DCL there |
| 21:49.44 | StyleWarz | what's dcl? |
| 21:49.53 | tcccp | DIGITAL Command Language |
| 21:50.02 | StyleWarz | ah the vms stuff, right |
| 21:50.06 | tcccp | aye |
| 21:50.19 | tcccp | VMS is for the really badass sm dudes |
| 21:50.42 | StyleWarz | if i remeber right, it was a pita to create a folder on vms |
| 21:50.52 | tcccp | cre/dir [.name] |
| 21:50.59 | StyleWarz | (at least a few years ago when i used it) |
| 21:51.12 | tcccp | I'm so fucking glad I stopped using OS/400 in favor of VMS |
| 21:51.19 | StyleWarz | HAHA! |
| 21:51.30 | tcccp | haha up my... |
| 21:51.35 | tcccp | ...you still use it? |
| 21:51.37 | StyleWarz | i ran through 3x os/400 boxes during my education |
| 21:51.47 | tcccp | I know ;) |
| 21:51.47 | StyleWarz | all day resetting printer spools |
| 21:51.55 | StyleWarz | our WaWi ran on it |
| 21:52.03 | tcccp | One thing OS/400 will never learn: Printer management |
| 21:52.11 | StyleWarz | one day i figured out that some idiot didn't close guest/guest for public access... |
| 21:52.17 | StyleWarz | altho it wasn't my job to manage that thingy |
| 21:52.20 | tcccp | What was it... |
| 21:52.22 | tcccp | WRKWTR? |
| 21:52.29 | StyleWarz | aye! |
| 21:52.32 | StyleWarz | and some more |
| 21:52.41 | StyleWarz | i really forgot about them as soon as i quit there :D |
| 21:52.52 | tcccp | Ah, you're not at BIG anymore? |
| 21:52.55 | StyleWarz | nope |
| 21:53.18 | StyleWarz | after my grandfather died during my education, my grandmother sold the company before i finished my education there |
| 21:53.24 | tcccp | ah, fuck |
| 21:53.32 | StyleWarz | so when i did my final exams i was "free" until the end of my education |
| 21:53.41 | tcccp | And the creeps didn't keep you? |
| 21:53.52 | StyleWarz | they wanted the family name out of the company |
| 21:53.56 | tcccp | wtf? |
| 21:54.25 | tcccp | Japanese dudes? |
| 21:54.25 | StyleWarz | would've been a big distraction for other workers if the old owner's grandson was still in IT department |
| 21:54.32 | StyleWarz | noooo, company 4 blocks away |
| 21:54.39 | StyleWarz | Simba Dicki Group |
| 21:54.42 | tcccp | wtf... |
| 21:54.52 | StyleWarz | They mostly manufacture somewhere in asia |
| 21:55.14 | StyleWarz | big was there first buy with a german fabric |
| 21:55.14 | StyleWarz | :d |
| 21:55.15 | tcccp | I'm still shocked about that guest/guest thingie |
| 21:55.26 | tcccp | Anything happened? |
| 21:55.55 | StyleWarz | noo, but my best friend who i got the same education spot as i had still works for them |
| 21:56.06 | StyleWarz | he's almost up as head of It department |
| 22:00.45 | StyleWarz | since my friend doesn't seem to get me for disco, i'll just watch the new harold and kumar |
| 22:00.49 | StyleWarz | n8i |
| 22:01.09 | tcccp | StyleWarz: RTL II |
| 22:01.13 | tcccp | StyleWarz: The exorcist |
| 22:01.24 | StyleWarz | i don't watch german movies |
| 22:01.33 | tcccp | hrhr |
| 22:01.33 | StyleWarz | i don't even watch tv :D |
| 22:01.41 | StyleWarz | it's just for playing with my ps3 :P |
| 22:01.50 | tcccp | I don't have a TV |
| 22:01.54 | tcccp | I have a Hauppauge HVR-900 |
| 22:02.26 | StyleWarz | well my 30" apple acd should also give a nice picture, i just like laying on the sofa and staring into the 46" samsung a little bit more ã |
| 22:02.55 | tcccp | 20.1 V7 ;) |
| 22:03.11 | tcccp | 159.99 EUR |
| 22:03.16 | tcccp | Quite a nice price for a tft |
| 22:03.28 | CPress | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:03.28 | StyleWarz | YAY |
| 22:03.33 | CPress | Hello All |
| 22:03.37 | StyleWarz | i'ma get picked up in 10 minutes for disco |
| 22:03.40 | tcccp | Hiho CPress |
| 22:03.41 | ginge | hi CPress |
| 22:03.45 | StyleWarz | hi CPress |
| 22:03.47 | tcccp | StyleWarz: Party on! |
| 22:04.07 | StyleWarz | and tomorrow morning i got to go to a birthdayparty of a family member, anyway ;) |
| 22:04.10 | StyleWarz | n8i guys |
| 22:05.08 | exco | night |
| 22:06.03 | CPress | night? Its still sunny outside ;) |
| 22:08.04 | exco | not around here |
| 22:08.44 | CPress | I'm sorry... |
| 22:08.58 | exco | yeah - me 2 |
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| 22:09.04 | exco | :-P |
| 22:09.16 | CPress | So, how do calls work yet in android? It does not seem to work for me |
| 22:09.46 | exco | can't help you there |
| 22:10.22 | ginge | CPress working fine here. Are you using latest everything? |
| 22:11.23 | CPress | Not sure. |
| 22:11.31 | CPress | Link to latest? |
| 22:11.38 | ginge | thats a good staddlist mmutrace 0x4a41f000 0x400art |
| 22:11.49 | ginge | goes insane |
| 22:12.20 | ginge | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
| 22:12.37 | CPress | um, i thought so.. I will redownload and try again. |
| 22:13.12 | CPress | android.bin27-Jun-2008 12:38 20M ? Is that the latest? |
| 22:14.21 | ginge | thats the one known to work with phone |
| 22:16.13 | marajin | ginge: Has the pints counter been incremented yet? ;) |
| 22:16.32 | ginge | pints +=0 |
| 22:16.39 | marajin | Dude you suck :P |
| 22:16.45 | ginge | :( |
| 22:16.54 | marajin | pints++ I say! |
| 22:17.17 | ginge | I say wtf is going on with these damn sd clocks! |
| 22:17.50 | marajin | I'd answer but I realy have NFC |
| 22:17.52 | marajin | sorry mate |
| 22:19.02 | CPress | is june 27th the latest image, or did that not get updated for some reason, because I have thatone |
| 22:27.35 | exco | good night y'all |
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| 23:04.19 | pebs | hi, any way of getting google android (with emulator) running on ASUS P535 (intel CPU)?? |
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