IRC log for #htc-linux on 20080710

00:00.45CPresswasup: you still there?
00:01.17wasupthat looks like it will work.. ill try it... I tried leaving it blank but its not doing anything
00:01.43wasupI need a ip address so i can remote access it.. atleast i think thats what dzo said...haha
00:02.02CPresswasup: goto: http://whatismyip.com ??
00:03.35wasupno i mean i need the ip for my titan
00:03.48CPressware you using sprint or verison?
00:03.53wasupsprint
00:04.21wasupi am booting linux.. and it is asking for my username and password for data
00:04.46CPressdo you have some sort of vision login information?
00:04.51wasupand with out it.. it just gives me a generic 192.0.07 ip..
00:05.09wasupnot yet.. im trying from the website u gave me a link to.
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00:10.45CPressGood Evening dzo
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00:39.46CPressAnyone here now?
00:40.12dcordesnot me
00:40.22CPressInteresting....
00:40.59dcordeswhy?
00:41.39CPressDid you know you can get into a android shell with the emulator?
00:44.34wasuphttp://learnandroid.blogspot.com/2008/01/accessing-android-shell.html
00:44.36wasupmaybe?
00:45.13wasupadb shell
00:45.14CPressYes
00:45.41wasupthat worked?
00:45.46CPressyes
00:45.57wasupwow i feel like my life is more accomplished now..
00:45.59wasuphaha
00:46.10CPresslol
00:46.24dcordesCPress: sorry I have no android emulator
00:46.25wasupim still trying to find my sprint vision password...hahaha
00:47.50CPressoh.. lol
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01:18.29wasuphey... so i tried to ssh my titan on the ip 127.0.0.1  it froze my computer.. so removed my usb
01:18.43wasupout of my titan.. and linux says usb disconnected.
01:18.56wasupi connect it back in.. and it says usb connected.
01:19.29wasupi have putty and was trying to connect via serial... but i have no clue how to find the com port..
01:19.41wasupthat the usb is using
01:58.41wasupanyone available to help?
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02:19.20wasupanyone on?
02:23.28tcccpThere certainly is
02:39.21wasupu know about ssh
02:39.28wasupvia usb
02:39.40tcccperm
02:39.43tcccpsshing via usbnet?
02:58.27tcccpI guess he has figured that the layer 1/2 might be different, everything else is the same ;)
03:11.28CPressHello All
03:11.59tcccphiho
03:12.15CPresshowdy ho!
03:12.21tcccpyeeehaaaw
03:12.27CPressroger that
03:12.55tcccp10-4
03:13.07CPressaffirmative
03:14.10tcccpwilco
03:14.23CPressAnyways, whos all on?
03:15.07tcccperm...well...me ;)
03:15.16CPressI noticed.. ;)
03:15.19tcccpCPress: Standby, I'll wake up the others:
03:15.23tcccpPI IS EXACTLY THREE!
03:15.35CPressnegative
03:15.40tcccpthat's the point ;)
03:16.06CPressinteresting.
03:16.14CPressI GOT ANDROID WORKING PERFECTLY!!!
03:16.38tcccplolz
03:16.50tcccpEMACS NOW HAS A KERNEL-LEVEL TEXTEDITOR!
03:16.59CPresslawl.. that's a good one.
03:17.04tcccpthanks :)
03:17.12CPressI USED WGET TO HAX BANK OF AMERICA
03:18.05tcccpWILL CODE COBOL FOR INTERWEBZ
03:22.42tcccpCPress: Damn narcotics - the guys in here are far far away ;)
03:22.52CPressagreed.
03:42.31tcccphm
03:42.34tcccpAnyone for coffee?
03:42.35tcccp<PROTECTED>
04:07.54CPressNight all.
04:08.32tcccperm...nite
04:08.38tcccp(06:08am here)
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04:45.47pigeonhmm damn i missed the fun just now :)
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06:06.46marajinmorningness
06:07.45marajintcccp: Coffee sounds good ;)
06:07.53tcccphrhr
06:07.57tcccpIT-grade coffe
06:08.16tcccpGood to break tanks or stop glass...or a combination that makes sense
06:08.21marajinthat's the stuff, so thick you could tar roads withit
06:08.31tcccpack
06:08.48marajinBut if you did you'd probably disolve all the car tyres
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06:11.40marajindzo: Wb there :)
06:13.39marajintcccp: So who fixed Pi? ;)
06:14.10tcccplol
06:15.43marajinneeds 32 meat pies, 16 apple pies and a napkin, then he'll soon sort out this pi issue.
06:18.49tcccpI need customers
06:30.42marajintcccp: Customers? what kind of customers?
06:30.53tcccpserver management for example
06:31.01kiozen_(those ones with money)
06:31.08marajinah right, don't look at me, I haven't got enough of those to share
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06:51.04marajinhmm whats LT_CURRENT for?
06:51.12marajinlibtool?
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07:37.49marajinman OE is kinda broken :P
07:38.22kiozen_OE is a big pile of shit, but the alternatives suck even more
07:38.54marajinI'm sick of having to hack bits of it to make things compile
07:39.13marajinFor now the gpe-image seems to be building ok
07:39.25marajinbut I prettymuch expectsomething to fail again any second
07:39.33kiozen_have done this the last two weeks :)
07:40.14marajinI'm glad my server is a good compiler/builder. I'd be in trouble if I had a slow box I'm sure
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07:42.19marajinzoolooc: Morning there =)
07:42.51zooloocmorning marajin ;)
07:43.55marajinzoolooc: So I dunno if you noticed but it turns out we probably did break haret or there is a reason for the 25MB limit
07:49.28kiozen_lol firefox crashes on png with 40960 pixel width :P
07:49.34marajinit would :P
07:54.42zooloocmarajin: didn't really follow your discussions, so the modification i compiled last night broke haret, or what?
07:54.59marajinzoolooc: It works fine on images < 25MB but anything over is broken
07:55.21zooloocmaybe that mod wasn't doing the expected thing
07:55.31zooloocdid you ask Kevin2 ?
07:55.43marajinnot yet
07:55.46zooloocdid I understand right, SD support in kaiser kernel is near?
07:56.27marajinyep
07:56.28marajinwe think so
07:56.38zooloocif that's so, screw the 25MB limit...
07:59.04marajinzoolooc: Very true but atm I don't think it runs quite on the kaiser and it's unstable on the vogue
08:34.10marajinwell I'll be damned
08:34.13marajingpe-image built
08:36.39zooloocbootable on kaiser ;-) ?
08:38.39marajindunno, should be (22M) I'll try now
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08:46.16zooloocmarajin: does it?
08:47.31marajinzoolooc: I think it crashed in haret, softresetting and trying again
08:49.40marajinNo, it freezes after haret :(
08:53.11marajinI wonder if I'm doing something wrong it should at least try to boot afaik
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09:11.02marajinzoolooc: Nah, it just ain' gonna work
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09:13.19marajinginge__: Mornin'
09:13.36ginge__morning. I ned to remember to log out when I leave somewhere
09:14.19marajinginge__: hah :P
09:14.58ginge__I rushed as fast as I could when I heard someone here not only figured out PI is exactly 3, but also got android working perfectly!
09:15.08marajinhaha :P
09:15.14marajintcccp: you're famous now!
09:15.35tcccpwhy that?
09:15.50tcccpanyone bothered bash.org with a quote?
09:15.52marajintcccp: "ginge__> I rushed as fast as I could when I heard someone here not only figured out PI is exactly 3, but also got android working perfectly"
09:15.54tcccpah
09:16.03tcccpginge__: LOL :)
09:16.09tcccpI love you guys, srsly
09:16.25marajintcccp: Steady now, steady
09:20.02tcccpOkaaay, I'm out earning some money. Catch you later
09:21.18marajintcccp: Enjoy
09:23.35tcccpdefinetly not - I'm sweating like( in) Hell
09:23.40tcccpso, hush hush..
09:23.57marajinhah
09:24.05marajintcccp: drink more alcohol!
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09:47.23goxboxlivecr2: i cant compile roadmap because of missing qt_main.h . I saw that you had the same problem, what did you do to solveit? SSD=NO doesnt resolve it
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10:12.12cr2kiozen_: i think i've found the problem with vbat yesterday. you may do some simple tracing to check it.
10:12.28cr2goxboxlive: which roadmap tree are you using ?
10:13.12goxboxlivecr2: i have the problem only with the one from xanadux
10:13.36goxboxliveThe regular one is building and runs fine
10:13.48cr2goxboxlive: strange. but it's the most nice one for qt4*
10:14.21cr2goxboxlive: many qt4* patches from xanadux are not in the main tree.
10:14.36cr2goxboxlive: ok, i'll check later today.
10:15.12goxboxlivecr2: http://pastebin.no/11412
10:17.38goxboxlivecr2: ok, maybe i should just copy the ones from the main tree then over to xanadux version?
10:17.51goxboxliveor will that break xanadux version
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10:38.01tcccpmarajin: Alcohol? Isn't that the typical drink a OpenBSD developer has?
10:38.01tcccp;)
10:38.21marajintcccp: everyone codes better on booze
10:38.26tcccphrhr
10:38.37tcccpIt's not daytime dependent?
10:38.49marajinNot at all
10:38.53tcccpneato
10:40.29tcccpmarajin: As long as I haven't got any alcohol in house...I'll have some coke ;)
10:40.49marajintcccp: ALright but clean the side afterwards
10:40.55tcccplulz
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10:43.24dottlelehi
10:43.32marajin'lo
10:43.43dottlelecan I use my htc universal like a router?
10:44.20tcccpdottlele: If you have enough interfaces to route and some fancy *x on it
10:44.26tcccpaye
10:44.34tcccpmuharrharr
10:44.38tcccpThat would be quite pervert
10:44.51marajinnonsense!
10:44.55tcccpLinuxmachine -> usbnet -> iPaq -> 3G -> Internet
10:44.57marajintcccp: What device doyou haveanyway?
10:45.06tcccpmarajin: iPaq hw6915
10:45.10dcordeshi
10:45.13marajintcccp: You know you can do that anyway. I can do that with my device
10:45.15tcccpBluetooth, Wifi, 3G and usbnet
10:45.34marajindcordes: Morning man
10:45.42tcccpmarajin: Well I thought of a PAN routing my laptop into the internet. But I haven't implemented it yet ;)
10:45.47marajindcordes: I made gpe-image build but it still won't boot
10:46.31tcccpmarajin: Before you ask, I have a plain Debian ARM on my iPaq to play around and make it work somehow ;)
10:46.48dottleleI'm trying to connect my i-mate jasjar with a desktop pc via usb
10:47.16dottlelebut I can't ping the two hosts
10:47.32dcordesmarajin: what about the gpe image I built?
10:47.33dottlelethey don't see
10:47.56marajindcordes: What gpe imge you built?
10:48.06marajindcordes: The one from a few days ago? boots console?
10:48.07dcordesmarajin: the one I sent you
10:48.16dcordesyea right with thsoe line errors
10:48.52dcordestry symlinking /sbin/init to /init or specify init in cmdline
10:54.15tcccpcaffeine!!! %)
10:54.24marajinfrom coke?
10:54.25marajinhah
10:54.54tcccpWell, coffee at night, coke the last ~5 hours...
10:55.14marajinmuahahaha your teeth shall dissolve!
10:56.25tcccpphosphoric acid? Up my...
10:56.32tcccpI have enough milk in my coffee ;)
10:56.56dcordesceylon assam blend
11:01.19dcordesmarajin: does it boot with the symlink?
11:01.28marajindcordes: Sorry, on phone..
11:25.01dcordesginge__: can I try your sdcc code?
11:25.15ginge__if you can make it compile ;)
11:25.48ginge__I didn't really have much chance to get it finished last night.
11:26.00dcordesI could look at it if you have a patch
11:26.26ginge__I'm at a client site at the moment. I will mail it over in a couple of hours when I am back at my desk
11:26.49dcordesok cool
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12:18.02kiozen_cr2: ?
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15:48.18dcordesginge: ping
15:48.30ginge|Insanitydcordes: pong
15:48.32dcordes~ping ginge|Insanity
15:48.33aptpong ginge|Insanity
15:48.39dcordesinsanity?
15:49.00ginge|Insanityyes, the current state of affairs in my office
15:49.20dcordessounds insane
15:49.33ginge|Insanitylots of big servers exploded when it rained a lot
15:50.04dcordesis that metaphorical speaking or why do servers explode when it rains?
15:50.56ginge|Insanitythere was a hole in the roof. it is causing chaos here as the server that I use for building apps is now floating away.
15:52.04dcordesoh that's not so good
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15:52.52dcordesdzo: hi, any msm_sdcc progress?
15:53.49ginge|Insanitygive the poor fella a bereak ;)
16:02.44marajinginge|Insanity: NEVER!
16:02.57marajinginge|Insanity: He shall be pestered mercilessly until he gives us his very soul! muahahah
16:03.08marajinback, by the way ;
16:03.10marajin;)
16:04.38ginge|Insanitygoing to sail home now. Catch you later
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16:09.41dcordeshi marajin. did you get your gpe image to boot?
16:09.54marajinhaven't tried, Loooong phone call
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16:10.57matsuu_hi
16:13.50marajindcordes: You could have tried it yourself, I mean the image is right there in ~/
16:14.43dcordesdidn't have the time just returned home
16:14.50marajinoh excuses :P
16:15.00marajinanyway I need to get somethingto drink. I hate talking for so long
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16:55.30MarexpH5: hi ;)
16:55.38MarexpH5: I got over the kthreading stuff :)
16:56.04MarexpH5: I can finally safely schedule() myself to refridgerator() ... and have some food
16:56.15pH5hi Marex
16:56.33pH5I'm already looking forward to the patch flood on lakml after the merge window is over :P
16:56.47pH5(and bon appetit)
16:57.50MarexpH5: yea ... when will the merge window be over ? two week or so ?
16:57.57Marexbtw thanks ;)
16:58.26Marexbtw do you think it's safe to call thread "matrix" ? ;D
17:00.41pH5Marex: two/three weeks I guess, depending on when it opens.
17:00.58pH5Marex: heh, maybe something with keyboard in it would be more descriptive
17:25.33MarexpH5: check your mail
17:26.42pH5Marex: why can't KEY_FN be used?
17:29.40pH5yay, regulator framework works
17:30.00pH5too bad the device now honors the usb current limit negotiation --> 100mA charging only until g_ether gets fixed
17:34.07cr2kiozen: they say nüvi ? http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1756347190
18:01.13MarexpH5: key_fn is for notebooks only ... and it's very limited
18:02.40pH5I don't see what is the difference between my notebook's fn key and the one on n810 or blueangel.
18:04.01pH5Although I'm fine with getting the functionality we need right now, wouldn't it be better long-term to enhance KEY_FN instead of custom-coding fn functionality into every keyboard driver?
18:04.37MarexpH5: sure, but key_fn behaves differently on many devices
18:04.52Marexfor example on my T61, the key_fn doesnt work at all
18:05.08Marexit reports different keycode or something
18:06.16pH5but that is not the desired behaviour, is it?
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18:11.45MarexpH5: nope
18:11.45MarexpH5: if there was some better "key_fn", it'd be the best
18:13.58pH5Marex: What's the problem with KEY_FN? Nokia seem to use it on n810. I'm not that far with blueangel yet, but I fear I might hit the same problem.
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18:16.04MarexpH5: isnt their key_fn handled by their keypad (in hardware) ?
18:16.44pH5no. in software in x. that allows them to do fancy things like present fn status in the ui or have caps lock / fn lock on double presses.
18:20.50MarexpH5: jeez :/
18:21.11MarexpH5: but N810 have slightly bigger screen, I doubt OPIE can handle fn too
18:24.33pH5fn lock is really useful though for those #⚡!☠* devices without dedicated number keys
18:25.31MarexpH5: yea ... well you can have fn lock if you map the FN key to KEY_FN instead of KEY_NC as it is now in your keymap
18:25.51Marex... and dont set alt_row and alt_col
18:26.01Marexthen you'll get what you want
18:26.02Marex:)
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18:26.38reboot385hi guy's
18:26.44reboot385i need some help :)
18:27.50gingereboot385: Hi. What do you need help with?
18:29.21pH5hi reboot385, ginge
18:29.23pH5Marex: :D
18:29.32reboot385euhm
18:29.39reboot385getting linux on my device
18:29.49gingewhich device do you have?
18:29.53reboot385on my SD card actaully
18:29.57reboot385euhm htc magician
18:30.02pH5hides
18:30.04reboot385qtek s100
18:30.57gingeso what have you done so far?
18:31.18reboot385the problem actually is i cannot acces my sd cart trought linux put it's partitioned, i got my bootloader on the fat16 partition but i cant copy the image to my sd
18:31.54Marex<PROTECTED>
18:32.49reboot385and i only see my ext3 partition in windows i can see files on it but cannot copy any of em
18:32.50gingeso you put the sd into your desktop, partitioned it etc, but can't bunzip the image?
18:33.10reboot385i partitioned with acronis
18:33.16reboot385i got files unzipped
18:33.33reboot385but just cannot get acces to my second partition of the sd
18:33.48gingesecond partition being ext3, right?
18:33.52reboot385ye
18:34.15gingehave you tried mounting it with ext2fs driver?
18:34.33Marexdont use windblows ... how simple ;)
18:34.40gingereally you should be doing this in a proper os, I'm not even sure if windows handles special files
18:34.50reboot385okey
18:34.56reboot385i got multiboot with ubuntu
18:35.03Marexewwwww
18:35.06gingelol
18:35.09reboot385but in ubuntu i dont see any card not even the fat16
18:35.28gingeyou will almost certainly need to mount it in the console
18:35.31Marexthat's like having multiboot with broken windows ;)
18:35.38dcordes_reboot385: does your card reader operate at all in linux?
18:35.46Marexsee dmesg
18:35.46reboot385nope
18:35.47gingeMarex: curious now, whats the beef with ubuntu?
18:35.59Marexwhat beef ?
18:36.04reboot385wait i gonna log into linux xD see u guy's in a minute
18:36.19pH5hi dcordes_
18:36.20ginge"the beef" == "your problem with"
18:36.23dcordes_hi pH5
18:37.09MarexpH5: run for your life!
18:37.16miknixhey guys
18:37.31cr2hi miknix
18:37.39pH5hi miknix, cr2
18:37.45cr2miknix: does the phone work for you ?
18:38.01miknixcr2: yes
18:38.42cr2miknix: sound ?
18:39.14miknixcr2: I have to boot linux while playing sound
18:40.15cr2miknix: gpio problem, or syren spi ?
18:40.32miknixboth
18:40.39cr2hmm.
18:40.47cr2gpio should be solvable
18:40.57miknixI tried to reset some gpios to init the sound hw
18:41.00cr2can you trace the syren spi in haret ?
18:41.11miknixno
18:42.56cr2ok.
18:45.39miknixcr2: when haret sets hw exceptions to catch register changes, the hw stops working
18:45.54miknixnot even leds blink
18:47.20cr2ok.
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18:53.36AstainHellbringso I'm curious we have any idea when another sdk should be released for android?
18:56.14marajinNot that I know of
18:57.00AstainHellbringdamn them at google
18:57.19marajinI know people at google but they won't say anything, Perma-NDAs and whatnot
18:57.23miknixcr2: oh.. wait. actually I'm wrong.
18:57.29marajinIf it ain't in the press, they can't talk about it
18:58.20miknixcr2: I was thinking in i2c. : \  I was a month away from the project and I'm still catching up :)
18:58.33AstainHellbringstupid ndas
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18:59.19miknixcr2: tomorrow I'll work on syren spi then
19:10.19cr2miknix: it's nice to finish it sometime :)
19:10.41cr2marajin: the working qtopia will make them tell very fast :)
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19:19.55cr2hi kiozen
19:20.22kiozenhi cr2, loox presentation was a success this time
19:20.54cr2:)
19:20.58cr2[19:34] <cr2> kiozen: they say nüvi ? http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index.php/id;1756347190
19:21.08Marexcr2: wm8750 ;)
19:22.05cr2Marex: i'm doing battery now. can you check what glue i2s code /clocks  is needed for wm8750 ?
19:22.58Marexcr2: Im planning palmld upstreaming, then Im working on the matrix_keypad and on top of that, there is palmtx nand
19:25.13kiozencr2: http://www8.garmin.com/buzz/oregon/ new monster by garmin
19:27.02cr2kiozen: to view this contents you need flash player ;)
19:27.25kiozencr2: yes it's a multimedia device :P
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19:28.40cr2kiozen: i guess it's all 'buzz' then.
19:29.23kiozenit's like iPhone, but I doubt that a ts only is such a godd idea in the wild
19:30.11cr2kiozen: saves $$
19:30.20cr2for them
19:30.58cr2kiozen: i'm downloading garlinux kernels. is it an omap kernel ?
19:31.23kiozenIthink it's arm
19:32.01cr2600MB download.
19:32.21cr2omg
19:32.38cr2fcking morons
19:32.54miknixcr2: 001.952    GPIOS GPIO6-IL: IL176(176)    this gpio turns turns on when a sound starts playing and off when stops
19:33.34cr2miknix: for spekaer ? what about headset ?
19:34.11miknixcr2: the audio output path is switched through syren spi
19:34.13cr2kiozen: lol. it's full gtk & co. source
19:34.17cr2-rw------- build/build 11446115 2008-06-23 18:42 nuvi8xx-v2.80-sources/BSL/boost-1.33.1/boost-1.33.1.orig.tar.bz2
19:34.34cr2miknix: ok.
19:34.44kiozencr2: sure it has to be, that what the GPL requires
19:34.50cr2miknix: btw, is there a separate sound chip ?
19:35.21cr2kiozen: it's (at least) moronic to put everything in 270MB download.
19:35.29miknixcr2: AFAIk no. its the one the GSM-MPU
19:35.53cr2kiozen: suse can create a 8GB tar.bz2 on a DVD too.
19:35.54miknixcr2: I made some changes to the GSM driver to allow setting the audio path from sysfs. I think it worked (I didnt test though)
19:36.20cr2miknix: sounds good.
19:36.34kiozencr2: that would make SuSE better or worse (did I mention SuSE 11.0 sucks?)
19:36.57cr2kiozen: yeah
19:36.59cr2<PROTECTED>
19:37.10miknixcr2: but that only works if we start linux while playing music... we have to find out how to init the audio chip
19:37.16cr2hehehe. i'll keep my comments here :)
19:37.34cr2miknix: i see.
19:38.03cr2beecrypt-3.1.0 ? never heard.
19:38.48cr2kiozen: hehe. nüvi runs x11+gnome. weird world.
19:38.53kiozenthat is GPL, if I would stick to the word of the GPL I had to publish all windows source code of Qt, GDAL and proj4 allong with my windows binary of GT
19:39.18cr2kiozen: not in 1 .tar file please
19:39.43cr2kiozen: btw, only if somebody requests you to do it.
19:39.44kiozen:) sure allong with 1GB of zeros :) (uncompressed)
19:39.50cr2lol
19:40.20kiozencr2: yes, that's why Garmin is doing it now
19:40.44kiozeni think it's ok, but it will not reveil anything interesting
19:40.50cr2yes. in such a awkward way.
19:41.10cr2i don't see the kernel source so far.
19:41.53kiozencr2: it's just the "garmin way", I think it fits the company pretty well :)
19:42.08cr2<PROTECTED>
19:42.13cr2probably this one.
19:42.13kiozenhave mercy with them :)
19:42.23cr2ok :)
19:42.51kiozenonce we dominate this world we can keep them as pets
19:42.53cr2and 703K bz2 patch
19:42.56cr2703714 2008-06-23 18:54 nuvi8xx-v2.80-sources/GPL/linux-daisy-2.6.17.7-daisy-2.80/linux-daisy-2.6.17.7-daisy-2.80.diff.tar.bz2
19:43.17cr2YES!
19:43.24kiozenlol
19:43.52kiozenbut befor world domination we need a battery monitor and a save resume
19:44.05kiozenerr well and sound
19:45.13cr2kiozen: there is some simple cpld magic linked to the battery monitor.
19:45.32cr2kiozen: the battery is on tsc2046 vbat channel.
19:46.09kiozenaaahaaa, that means in simple words lik e: cat /sys/.../snafu ?
19:46.24cr2kiozen: but you may 1. make the 'powermon 300' log, and 2. trace the ssp1 port for the actual data.
19:47.07kiozencr2: in haret?
19:47.19cr2kiozen: yes, but some handwaving may be needed. or some minor patching of the generic adc driver.
19:47.30cr2kiozen: yes, both in haret.
19:47.44miknixcr2: do you know how battery charge is handled on other devices? It looks like the cpld do all the work on the wizard, but I did not find yet how to switch power modes.
19:47.44cr2kiozen: do you know the ssp1 data reg address ?
19:48.00kiozencr2: not a f.. clue
19:48.18cr2kiozen: ok. do powermon log first.
19:48.40kiozenbooting wince..
19:48.46cr2miknix: it's very device dependent.
19:49.28miknixcr2: If USB was plugged in while booting linux, If I enable right LED on the cpld, the orange led turns on. If USB was plugged off, the green led is turned on instead
19:49.44cr2kiozen: use console.py, and run 'powermon 300' with 624MHz and all power consumers on (disable suspend before)
19:50.12cr2miknix: orange means charging
19:50.37cr2kiozen: then plot the U(t)
19:51.01cr2kiozen: and maybe the %(t)
19:51.22miknixcr2: yes, the cpld controls everything in accourdance to the active power mode. If you boot linux with wifi off and you try to enable the wifi LED on the cpld, the LED doesnt turn on
19:52.17cr2miknix: ok.
19:53.01cr2kiozen: lol. garmin_mods.patch is inside the .tar.bz2
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19:53.36miknixsince we already know every input combination on the cpld, I fail to see where do I set the power mode
19:53.47cr2kiozen: it's pxa3xx
19:54.07cr2kiozen: haret for nüvi ? :)
19:54.20cr2miknix: other regs ?
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19:55.04cr2kiozen: CONFIG_GRMN_RT_SYSTEM=yes
19:55.34cr2they use eabi and discontigmem
19:55.37miknixcr2: yeah.. I tried to dump something while plugging USB (charger on and off). But the cpld stops working (not even leds blink)
19:55.39kiozennüvi is not nice for outdoor
19:56.18cr2aha. 64+64MB split ram setup.
19:56.39cr2kiozen: yes, that's why they do it.
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19:57.07cr2video=pxafb
19:57.17cr2nüvi sux ;)
19:57.57cr2even moko2 does it better.
19:58.10pH5actually, moko2 is worse
19:58.35pH5the glamo chip was a mistake, the memory bus to the card is unbelievably slow
19:58.58cr2pH5: hehe. they should have used ati ;)
19:59.44miknixBabelO: hey
19:59.48cr2pH5: and a binary driver compiled with '-g'
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20:00.00BabelOhi
20:00.11cr2pH5: that would have made the world a much better place.
20:00.22pH5hell yes. like the omap2430 sdk for powervr which includes all the dwarf tags.
20:00.32cr2:)
20:00.38miknixBabelO: are you handling power modes on your artemis? (usb charging..)
20:00.46Maverick2kHi there
20:01.05Maverick2kcan some one help with linux on an old Himalaya pda
20:01.36BabelOmiknix: not properly, only some part
20:02.10miknixBabelO: those register belongs to which address space?
20:02.12cr2Maverick2k: you'd like to do some kernel hacking ?
20:02.38cr2pH5: dreaming of asic3-gpio ...
20:02.40pH5hi BabelO, how is charging handled on omap850?
20:02.40Maverick2kcr2: I want to learn some embedded linux
20:02.49BabelOmiknix: only gpio power... don't found the battery measure
20:03.10BabelOpH5: good question :)
20:03.23Maverick2kcr2: I'm searching for a nice project where I can learn and contribute
20:03.29kiozencr2:  http://pastebin.no/11450
20:03.31cr2Maverick2k: himalaya is blueangel without wifi and keyboard. and some gpio differences.
20:03.53pH5cr2: asic3 gpio support is upstream, it's in the main MFD driver
20:03.55miknixBabelO: on the wizard everything is handled by the cpld (the cpld doesnt let you enable the wifi led if linux was booted with wifi turned off)
20:03.57cr2Maverick2k: so it'd be easy to port the current BA code to himalaya.
20:04.07cr2pH5: already ?
20:04.17pH5cr2: how are your plans to port n560 coming along?
20:04.22BabelOmiknix: so you miss a power gpio somewhere
20:04.46Maverick2kcr2: and I thought it would be a nice starting project, or do you no something better
20:05.03pH5cr2: oh. actually, the gpio api code might not be merged yet. it's in linux-next and in the mfd tree though.
20:05.24cr2pH5: i need so working base. you may look at the loox* dir, the actual porting is minimal.
20:05.36cr2s/so / some /
20:05.50miknixBabelO: the problem is that I cant dump power GPIOS because when haret polls for changes, the cpld stops working (leds even stop blinking)
20:05.55cr2pH5: loox* at hh.org
20:06.29pH5cr2: if you're impatient you could have a look at my magician tree on git.linuxtogo.org
20:06.46cr2Maverick2k: yes, it'd be a good starting project, because you don't need to do any hardcore hardware RE stuff. only adapting the existing linux code.
20:07.18pH5Maverick2k: and also it would be really useful because right now there's nobody else with himalaya working on it.
20:07.30cr2pH5: trying to finish RE the battdrv.dll on n560 now.
20:07.50Maverick2kcr2: I guess the best way to starts is http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/BlueAngelHowtoInstallLinux
20:07.58kiozencr2: what to do for that ssp1 stuff?
20:08.51cr2kiozen: i'll tell you the SSDR address, you'd trace reads and writes to it (with SET TRACE, and SET TRACEMASK in haret)
20:09.10cr2kiozen: check the haret docs.
20:10.13cr2Maverick2k: it's for the install only. you'd need BlueAngelHowtoCompileLinux :)
20:11.53cr2kiozen: http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HaRET_20Documentation
20:12.27cr2kiozen: "Catching reads/writes on pxa" chapter.
20:13.01cr2kiozen: i wish i had time to modify these docs a bit, and create a proper latex file.
20:13.45Maverick2kcr2: the cvs for blueangel is up2date?
20:14.45cr2Maverick2k: i think it should be up2date. ask BabelO. you can complain here if it is not working for you.
20:15.21kiozencr2: you mean this one ? addlist TRACES p2v(0x4C000000)
20:15.33Maverick2kokay then i will going to expiriment , thnx for your help
20:15.59cr2Maverick2k: afair the current hh.org CVS compiles and boots on himalaya. but it misses drivers, that should be adapted from BA.
20:16.27kiozenok, found SET TRACE...
20:16.28cr2kiozen: no, PXA has a better way to do read/write traces.
20:16.32cr2yes.
20:16.45kiozenok what address
20:17.15cr2p2v(0x41000010)
20:17.26cr2for ssp1
20:17.55cr2you may check if p2v(0x41000010) == 0xa9000010
20:18.02cr2i think it'd be so
20:18.24cr2print "%8.8x" p2v(0x41000010)
20:18.41cr2or
20:18.44cr2printf "%8.8x" p2v(0x41000010)
20:19.40kiozena9000010
20:19.42cr2kiozen: and don't touch the touchscreen while charging.
20:19.44cr2ok.
20:19.56kiozenSET TRACE p2v(0x41000010)
20:19.57cr2otherwise you'll see the TS data ;)
20:20.01cr2yes.
20:20.11kiozenwirq 10
20:20.24cr2and 'set tracemask' to limit the tracing address space.
20:20.31cr2yes.
20:21.20kiozenSET TRACEMASK p2v(0x41000010)  ?
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20:22.18kiozencr2: ?
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20:22.35cr2kiozen: set tracemask 0xff
20:22.51cr2i think 256 bytes should be enough :)
20:23.42cr2WM8974 on nüvi
20:24.35cr2asoc :)
20:26.13kiozencr2: 498768 bytes is too much for pastebin
20:26.32kiozencr2: pm?
20:27.14cr2ok
20:27.34cr2kiozen: they use w1 :(
20:27.50cr2ds2703, ds2780
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20:28.15kiozencr2: sent
20:28.20cr2+CONFIG_GARMIN_VIDEO=y
20:29.21cr2hehe
20:29.23cr2+CONFIG_BACKLIGHT_GARMIN=y
20:29.57cr2kiozen: btw, we can check how they do sound :)
20:30.06kiozenlol
20:30.19cr2+CONFIG_SND_SOC_WM8753=y
20:30.24kiozensent
20:30.49cr2i doubt there are big differences between 8750 and 8753
20:30.50kiozencr2: anything else?
20:30.51cr2ok
20:31.47cr2kiozen: looks good. i'm just wondering about the irq spam.
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20:32.30kiozenhm boot failes after using haret
20:32.39cr2kiozen: ibit irqs 0 2
20:36.00cr2kiozen: sorry
20:36.19cr2kiozen: it's the timer0 irq spam
20:36.19kiozen???
20:36.21cr2IRQS     ICIP: TMR0(26)=1
20:36.36kiozencr2: find and replace ?
20:36.47cr2no
20:36.52cr2ibit irqs 26
20:36.57cr2will mask spam.
20:37.01cr2IRQS    GEDR0: GPIO12(76)=1
20:37.11dcordes_ginge: can you send me your mmc diffs?
20:37.19cr2ok, this one is wifi irq.
20:37.24kiozenok I redo the trace
20:37.26cr2you may mask it too.
20:37.29cr2ok.
20:40.12cr2kiozen: +CONFIG_USB_G_GARMIN=m
20:40.52cr2kiozen: this one may be of some interest for you. even if it's binary :)
20:41.29kiozencr2:  don't think so, I know all important parts, and a usb sniffer is much more efficient
20:41.42cr2lol. nüvi supports nfsv3
20:41.44cr2ok.
20:42.52cr2uh.
20:42.55cr2+CONFIG_TOUCHSCREEN_TSC2200=y
20:43.06cr2BabelO: it#s the BA chipset ?
20:43.06kiozencr2: http://pastebin.no/11452
20:43.56cr2kiozen: ok. need to check what is a9000008
20:44.19kiozenboot process is still quite fragile :)
20:44.50cr2sssr1
20:44.51pH5cr2: yes, ba is using tsc2200 for ts, buttons, battery
20:45.07cr2kiozen: not everything at once.
20:45.13kiozen:)
20:45.28cr2pH5: i#m curious about the garmin driver for it.
20:45.35kiozenhope they have a reset button in that rugged case
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20:49.13cr2+CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SHARE_IRQ=y
20:49.15maverick2kthe official link to a prebuilt toolchain is not working does anyone know a work around
20:49.17cr2hmm.
20:49.30cr2maverick2k: get one from qtopia.net
20:49.43BabelOcr2: yes it is
20:50.12maverick2kthnx
20:51.05cr2http://qtopia.net/modules/devices/openmoko.php
20:51.12cr2cross toolchain
20:51.40cr2BabelO: lol
20:51.43cr2+CONFIG_SI471X=y
20:51.44cr2+CONFIG_SI471X_RESET_GPIO="116"
20:51.59cr2BabelO: evil garmin uses si471x for TMC ?
20:53.09BabelOvery good :)
20:53.57cr2BabelO: pick the 270MB blob
20:54.14cr2BabelO: or i can send you the extracted patch.
20:55.05BabelOcr2: yes i want :) is it i2c driver ?
20:55.12cr2kiozen: ok, 8 is SSP status register.
20:55.38cr2BabelO: yes, but i've only looked at the .config now. so it may be binary.
20:55.49kiozencvs up the kernel?
20:55.52kiozen;)
20:55.53cr2BabelO: but it#s i2c driver.
20:56.15BabelOcr2: that s ok for me, to try on artemis :)
20:56.27cr2+CONFIG_GPS_POWER=y
20:56.35cr2+CONFIG_GDB_POWER=y
20:56.45cr2gdb power ?!?
20:57.07cr2BabelO: 2.6.17 kernel
20:57.36BabelOlol, debug board ? :)
20:59.18cr2+CONFIG_GARMIN_DEVICE_INFO=y
21:01.34cr2kiozen: +CONFIG_SENSORS_TSL256x=y
21:01.41cr2wtf is that ?
21:01.41maverick2kbad luck too day, The requested URL /downloads/neo/arm920t-eabi-ficgta01-toolchain.tgz was not found on this server. :)
21:01.59kiozencompass or barometric?
21:02.29kiozenno ambiente light level :)
21:02.39cr2maverick2k: hmm.
21:03.18cr2kiozen: if they#ve published the TMC driver, BabelO will be very happy.
21:03.32kiozenthey will never
21:04.13kiozenthey do not even publish their own pittyfull usb protocol
21:04.25cr2eh ? moko ?
21:04.29cr2http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-kernel/2007-May/000121.html
21:05.04cr2kiozen: you can dump fw and replace basemap, if they 'll publish it.
21:05.19cr2kiozen: otherwise only evil piratez know how to do it :)
21:05.27pH5cr2: I think hxd8 is what became this dash navigation device
21:05.55cr2tsl256x.c  --  TSL256x Light Sensor driver
21:06.02cr2kiozen: you missed it :)
21:06.37cr2pH5: btw, have you seen any other sirf-arm patches ?
21:06.46kiozenmissed what?
21:07.01cr2kiozen: it#s not a compass or pressure sensor.
21:07.10kiozen[23:03] <kiozen> no ambiente light level :)
21:07.15cr2kiozen: does nüvi have something like that ?
21:07.25cr2lol. then i'm dumb :)
21:07.29kiozencar navigation, should have
21:08.19pH5cr2: have not
21:10.30cr2pH5: LOL. evil garmin includes your asoc-magician driver in their patch :)
21:10.37cr2pH5: ok.
21:11.37pH5heh. I guess that crept in when they pulled from one of the wolfson branches for wm8753
21:12.07cr2yes, i think so.
21:12.50cr2+         If you say yes here you get support for the Silicon Labs
21:12.50cr2+         Si471x FM Transmitter.
21:12.50cr2+
21:12.50cr2+         Only work for Si4711 at the moment.
21:12.54cr2BabelO: ?
21:13.12cr2kiozen:
21:13.16cr2+config SENSORS_TSL256x
21:13.16cr2+       tristate "TAOS TSL256x light-to-digital converter"
21:13.30cr2+         Currently only the I2C version (TSL2563) is supported, and
21:13.31cr2+         certain portions of the driver are tied to the PXA
21:13.31cr2+         architecture.
21:13.52cr2BabelO: rejoice
21:13.56cr2+ *  linux/arch/arm/mach-pxa/nuvi7xx.c
21:14.00cr2+ *
21:14.00cr2+ *  Support for the Garmin Nuvi7xx
21:14.00cr2+ *
21:14.01cr2+ *  Author:    Ross Stutterheim
21:14.01cr2+ *  Created:   2006
21:14.01cr2+ *  Company:   Garmin International, Inc.
21:14.05BabelOcr2: strange ... don't see what a transmitter FM can do on gps
21:14.12cr2+ *  This file provides a driver interface for the Silicon Laboratories
21:14.12cr2+ *  Si471x Broadcast FM Transmitter.
21:14.22cr2+ *  Copyright 2007 by Garmin Ltd. or its subsidiaries
21:14.29pH5BabelO: sound output to car radio?
21:14.35cr2kiozen: btw, nüvi7xx :)
21:14.44BabelOpH5: too powerfull :)
21:15.27cr2+#define CMND_RDS_BUF   0x34    /* Si4711/13 Only. Queries the status
21:15.27cr2+                                * of the RDS Group Buffer and loads
21:15.27cr2+                                * new data into buffer                 */
21:15.28cr2+#define CMND_RDS_PS    0x35    /* Si4711/13 Only. Set up default PS
21:15.28cr2+                                * strings                              */
21:15.37cr2BabelO: i'll send you the patch.
21:15.45BabelOcr2: ok thanks
21:16.05cr2BabelO: looks good. i'll check the tsc2200 too
21:16.42cr2pH5: a gazillion of /sysfs options to control the si471x
21:17.03cr220 entries.
21:17.13cr2linux-radio :)
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21:19.44cr2kiozen: hehe.
21:19.47cr2+ * get_garmin_esn - Get the electronic serial number (Unit ID) of the unit
21:19.47cr2+ *     from NOR.
21:20.17pH5time to pass out for today
21:20.17pH5'night everyone
21:20.30cr2pH5: good night
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21:20.42cr2kiozen: garmin became a hw vendor
21:20.47cr2+ * set_hydrogen_esn - Set the electronic serial number (Unit ID) of the unit
21:21.43kiozenthey always have been good at hw, but lousy at fw
21:22.09cr2BabelO: they've written their own tsc2200 driver, you may look at it.
21:22.26BabelOcr2: ok :)
21:24.50cr2BabelO: sent
21:25.17cr2kiozen: it#s nice that you've told me about the garmin linux kernel, and i've seen the link in the OSM ML
21:25.50kiozenalways a pleasure!
21:25.54cr2:)
21:26.03kiozenit's fun to play with the loox :)
21:26.14cr2BabelO: you owe us the TMC driver now :D
21:26.57kiozenthink M will leap forward the next weeks
21:27.12cr2kiozen: your log shows only the writes to SSP. strange. 0x8 is the fifo status and such things.
21:27.12kiozenhope the ruggdizing won't take too long
21:27.32cr2kiozen: lol. will it supoport TMC ?
21:27.41kiozenTMC?
21:28.15cr2http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_Message_Channel
21:29.05kiozenthe loox? surely not, it will be a 100% outdoor app
21:29.42cr2kiozen: it's a joke :) loox does not have the RDS radio. only artemis has it afaik.
21:30.07kiozenok morning comes closer in big steps, think I have to catch some sleep, bbl
21:30.24cr2good night
21:32.27BabelOme too need to sleep
21:32.30BabelOgood night
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21:46.55dcordes_~ping ginge
21:46.55aptpong ginge
21:53.14Marexdang ... looks like unresolved merge conflict in arm:devel
22:13.15maverick2kDoes anyone has the upgrade file for the Himalaya WM6?
22:14.17maverick2kto upgrade from WM2003 to WM6
22:18.24maverick2kplease email to maverick__2k@hotmail.com
22:18.56maverick2kCaution two underscores
22:19.44miknixcr2: ping
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22:22.47wasuphey dzo
22:22.49wasupyou there?
22:24.06wasupanyone know commands to get my mac talking to my titan running linux
22:24.09maverick2kI found on WM6.1
22:24.14maverick2ksorry for asking
22:24.35wasuplike via usb
22:28.45dzowasup: USB isn't working yet on MSM, only way to talk to it is over the air.
22:33.00marajinwasup: yeah we mostly talk to theKaiser via GPRS
22:33.13marajindzo: Gather the same is true for you andthe vogue
22:34.07dzoyes, BT is probably easier to get working than USB.
22:34.36marajinheh
22:34.42marajinor maybe soon wifi?
22:34.47marajinbut I dunno
22:35.07dzovogue has no wifi unfortunately.
22:35.31dzoi'm still looking at SD though.
22:36.37marajindzo: Yep, well, the Kaiser crew have hop at least. Though wifi drivers can be easy or hard depending on the hardware
22:37.07wasupi ahve a titan not a vogue
22:37.24dzotitan has wifi i think.
22:37.34dzootherwise very similar to vogue.
22:38.16wasupyeah? so what do you recommend? oh and ur screen calibration wqorks
22:38.20dcordes_marajin: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserWiFi
22:38.52dzowasup: does the onscreen kbd work for you
22:39.16wasupnah... i hit the camera button.. it comes up.. just blinking like crazy
22:39.19dcordes_marajin: the  chip itself is supported by acx100. I wonder if titan has the same
22:39.41dzowasup: is kbd at top or bottom of the screen?
22:39.57wasupbut when i hold down the camera button and touch the screen ur calibration script or whatever it is kicks in
22:40.01wasuptop
22:40.29dzook, an easy fix, it should be at the bottom.
22:40.57wasupok..easy as in... easy for you... or easy for me?
22:42.13dzoeasy is relative.... i'll fix it now.
22:42.50wasupok..haha
22:43.53wasupso bt is easier then wifi? my mac has bt.. :)
22:44.45dzobt just needs the uart working i think, i haven't even looked at it though.
22:45.30wasupoh.. ok.
22:45.55marajin'oh is it? bogstandard chip that yep :)
22:46.09wasupso if usb doesn't work y does it recognize when its plugged in.. and my windows machine finds it.. it just cant find a driver
22:46.18wasupwhich is y i brought my mac into the equation
22:46.40marajinwasup: because the usb chip does some auto negotation
22:47.01wasupoh..
22:48.18marajindcordes_: So we'r robably in luck as soon as SD works yep? :)
22:49.44dcordes_I hope so
22:49.57wasupwill the sd support fix titan's problems?
22:50.07dzohave you tried my sd patches on kaiser, does it find the sdio?
22:50.44dcordes_dzo: ginge started porting them to kaiser
22:51.38dzowasup: ok, i put a zImage-sd on the website that should fix the kbd.
22:52.35dzogot to go now, bye.
22:52.48dcordes_bye
22:53.27wasupthanks
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22:59.38marajin'lo again AstainHellbring
23:00.51AstainHellbringhello
23:02.22wasupGUYS... keyboard works on the titan now... :)
23:02.44wasupdamn dzo.. is one smart guy
23:03.18miknix#"$"#"%"
23:03.25miknixrndis is driving me crazy
23:04.18marajinwasup: Yeah he's pretty cool :)
23:11.01AstainHellbringwasup you just booting the kernel?
23:13.02CPressAfternoon all.
23:14.27dcordes_wasup: how did you get android to boot? In the xda forum I read there were problems
23:14.39AstainHellbringwasup what did you boot?
23:15.39wasupno not android
23:15.51wasupjust the linux kernal with sd support
23:16.43AstainHellbringahh ok what did it let you do wasup?
23:16.57AstainHellbringand did you run kernel from sd or from device?
23:17.01CPressdcordes: why would the android-data not work with the ppp info, but the android.bin will?
23:18.09wasupi didnt have keyboard support until now.
23:18.14wasupso i shall try..
23:18.25wasupanyone know the commands
23:18.56dcordes_CPress: ignore android-data. I think ginge has one android initrd that works quite well
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23:36.01*** topic/#htc-linux is HTC Linux Channel: Find logs at http://apt.rikers.org/%23htc-linux/ | please check http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/HTC_2dPhones | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Xanadux | <cr2> let's define a common setup.
23:36.59AstainHellbringwasup is that posted anywhere?
23:37.27wasupon... his mainsite..
23:37.44gingeCPress: did you un-gzip it?
23:37.48AstainHellbringthe android one?
23:37.55AstainHellbringthats the only one I quickly see
23:38.48gingeCPress: if you did, don't
23:39.03AstainHellbringwasup:  this one:  http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2388037&postcount=525
23:40.49wasupno... after the normal web address put /initrid.
23:42.00wasuplike go to his web site.. then type.. initrid.(whatever the extention is)  without the "-android"
23:42.52wasuphttp://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/initrd.gz
23:46.15AstainHellbringok cool
23:51.57AstainHellbringwasup:  did you get an ip in the initrd?
23:53.49AstainHellbringwasup:  also what were you able to do with that initrd?
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23:59.47wasupno icant get an ip...

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