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01:34.51pigeonwhat distro do most people run on their htc phones?
01:35.41AstainHellbringwm6.1
01:36.02pigeonheh
01:36.29pigeonlet me ask again, what linux distro do most people run on their htc phones? :)
01:36.44AstainHellbringangstrom proally
01:37.46pigeonok
01:45.25MarexAstainHellbring: wm isnt the most widely spread OS for smartphones, dont be mistaken
01:45.33Marexwell on HTCs it probably is .. ok
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02:06.18Axioplas1Hi
02:07.06kaboofaI wonder if trying to crosscompile the htc linux stuff would be a needless act of masochism with solaris as the host..
02:07.17Axioplas1I tried installing the openmoko image for the universal. That single 33Mb .cab file. It boots linux, but it seems it didn't create the FS, and thus fails.. Is it a known bug?
02:07.55Axioplas1I thought that the point of this file was to have only the FAT FS, and no need to create a linux partition...
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02:33.51Axioplas1whatever I do, it fails with "mounting SD card\n FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL\n Unable to mount vfat SD card partition"
02:34.06Axioplas1I tried various images/distributions
02:34.23AstainHellbringmarex htc's garenteed it is
02:44.13Axioplas1AstainHellbring: were your replying to me?
02:46.06AstainHellbringuhm no marex had made a comment before you signed on
02:57.47CPressHello All.
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03:16.18CPressNo activity? That's sad.
03:21.07marajinMorning anyon who's actually alive at this hour
03:29.53Axioplas1yeehaa.. looks like titchy installs on my unversal!
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03:34.59marajinyay
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03:35.12marajinCPress: Morning there
03:35.24CPressMorning? Night! :)
03:35.38marajinCPress: Pfft, we british know when te real times are, tis morning
03:35.42marajinthe sun's up and everything!
03:35.50CPressIt's 10:30pm here....
03:36.01CPressYeah, brits... yep! :)
03:36.10CPressHows that android commin?
03:36.12marajintis still morning! >.<
03:36.25CPressI guess it's 5'oclock somewhere
03:36.48CPressIf you roll like that
03:37.22marajinTBH I've been ignoring it the last few days. More interested in getting angstrom/gpe/opie/openmoko working first. Problem is that half the issues with Android seem to very literally BE android itself
03:37.42marajinthings that won't function in android are fine in angstrom/console
03:37.47CPressoh, that is interesting.
03:38.05CPressDid the big G announce the release date?
03:38.20marajinNot that I'm aware of
03:38.37CPressLame.
03:39.20CPressI wonder if it would be possible to steal the SDK android and put it on the phone, or did you guys do that already?
03:39.26marajinAnyway, I figure better to make sure everything works well in the underlying linux system before we bash out brains ou against android
03:39.39marajinCPress: You mean the one in the emulator google provide? that's what we did yeah
03:39.54marajinCPress: Which you might notice, it is very unstable there too
03:40.24CPressI havent had time to play with it at all.
03:40.52marajinI think if we have a well working linux distro and given what we've learnt of android thusfar, as soon as android gets a bit more stable we'll be able to switch in the newer editions of android rather rapidly
03:41.18CPressVery true.
03:42.06CPressDoes the other flavors have a gui?
03:42.36marajintechnially but we haven't got Xworking, we need to debug it and to do that we need network/data connections to the unit
03:42.58CPressRight, which is currently unavailable
03:43.02CPressCorrect?
03:43.13marajinWe've mastered GPRS actually
03:43.23CPressReally?
03:43.25marajinso we're gonna SSH tunnel then we can get a remoteconsole
03:43.36marajinyeah, I can use GPRS on angstrom.
03:43.40CPressthat would be cool
03:43.59marajinI even ran irrsi and got on this channel with my kaiser for a bit at one point
03:44.02CPressis that data only or both phone and data
03:44.04marajin*irssi
03:44.14marajinGSM = phone, GPRS = data.
03:44.16marajinBoth work
03:44.38CPressNice job.
03:44.50marajinwe're not sure about EDGE/3G/HSDPA yet though
03:44.52CPressNow, can I run a porn web server on my phone yet? ;)
03:44.55marajin(high speed data)
03:45.19marajinCPress: In theory yes but you don't get a publically accessible IP on phone data connections
03:45.31CPressLame........ lol....
03:45.51marajinwell wifi may not be far off if it's any consolation
03:46.08CPressThat should be better....
03:46.15marajinI'm not much in on it myself but I hear the SD/MMC driver is getting close and the wifi is hooked to SDIO
03:46.30CPressI see.
03:46.48marajinbut yeah, just getting SD/MMC working would give us a persistent filesystem finally which'll be handy
03:47.02CPressyeah, large storage.
03:47.10marajinCPress: /any/ storage.
03:47.14CPresslol..
03:47.25CPresstrue..
03:47.30marajinCPress: Currently we're using initrd only. ramdisk see. Soon as you soft reset everything you've changed/saved is gone
03:47.56CPressI think i will be installing linux on my desktop, only on my laptop atm, just to kinda dive in here and see what code has been done.
03:48.13CPressI am aware.
03:50.05marajinBut we're getting there, so keep a look out for linux images with working GUI in the next few days anyway,hopefully
03:50.29CPressSo, you are trying to get openmoko working then, is that already developed?
03:51.24marajinwe probably will get openmoko working at some point soon, dcordes seems most interested in that. I think he's going to meet up with one of the main openmoko developers to brainstorm about getting it working nice on the kaiser.
03:51.45marajinbut we'll go for GPE/OPIE builds too
03:56.45CPressNight All.
04:43.22paulproteusNight CPress.
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05:41.33marajinhurray =)
05:41.44marajingot my ISP to up my upsteam to 2Mbps
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06:45.22goxboxlivepaulproteus: are you awake?
06:49.20paulproteusgoxboxlive, Yeah, what's up?
06:49.23paulproteusAbout to go to sleep. (-:
06:49.39goxboxliveok, i cant access your git server
06:49.44paulproteusOkay, hmm
06:49.52paulproteusTell me more - what's the error message?
06:49.56paulproteusLet me try right now also.
06:50.30goxboxlivethis one is new: Enter passphrase for key '/home/jrs/.ssh/id_rsa':
06:50.35paulproteusOh!
06:50.37paulproteusJust run ssh-add
06:51.24paulproteusgoxboxlive, Your key is locked with a passphrase.
06:51.31goxboxlivehmm
06:51.38paulproteusJust type "ssh-add" and that should let you enter it.
06:51.48paulproteusIt's probably your login password, I'm guessing.
06:52.16goxboxliveand also my password doesnt work at your server
06:52.26goxboxlivehow can i get a new password?
06:53.08goxboxliveANd ssh-add ggives me this:
06:53.08goxboxlivejrs@linuxserver:/media/embedded/stuff/sources/git/Qtopia/qtopia_snapshot$ ssh-add
06:53.08goxboxliveCould not open a connection to your authentication agent.
06:53.18paulproteuseval `ssh-agent`
06:53.21paulproteusthen do ssh-add.
06:55.21goxboxlivepaulproteus: are you going to buy a iphone 3G?
06:55.34paulproteusgoxboxlive, No plans to, though I think I will buy a FreeRunner.
06:55.40goxboxlivei c
06:55.51paulproteusWhy do you ask?
06:55.57goxboxlivei have bought one, i'll get it in a couple of weeks i think
06:56.07goxboxlivehmm, git fetch hangs
06:56.12paulproteusIt may just be slow?
06:56.24goxboxlivegit or iphone?
06:56.52paulproteusI mean git.
06:57.06goxboxlive:-)
06:57.09goxboxliveright
06:57.21goxboxlivei havent done a fecth for a long time now, so that might be
06:57.55goxboxlivepaulproteus:
06:57.57goxboxlivejrs@linuxserver:/media/embedded/stuff/sources/git/Qtopia/qtopia_snapshot$ git fetch
06:57.57goxboxlivessh: connect to host git.asheesh.org port 22: Connection timed out
06:57.57goxboxlivefatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly
06:58.03paulproteusUh, that's bad.
06:58.05paulproteusBut...
06:58.06goxboxlive:-)
06:58.07paulproteus...weird.
06:58.12paulproteusIt works for me though!
06:58.20goxboxlivehmm git status works for me
06:58.30paulproteusgit status is local.
06:58.43goxboxlivei c
06:58.52paulproteusUm, retry git fetch for me?
06:59.09goxboxliveon it
07:01.06goxboxlivepaulproteus: do you think i have to addyour ip to my host.deny file?
07:01.30paulproteusgoxboxlive, That wouldn't be necessary.
07:01.35paulproteusI'm going to go to bed in a second.
07:01.37goxboxlivei c
07:01.39goxboxliveok
07:01.40paulproteusIt doesn't look like you re-issued the "git fetch".
07:01.52goxboxlivei did
07:02.04goxboxlivegot the same again
07:02.11goxboxlivetrying once more
07:02.20paulproteusMaybe it's a transient routing issue.
07:02.25paulproteus'Cause it works from here in the US for me.
07:02.40goxboxlivei i'll check localy, there might be something here then
07:02.43paulproteusCan you try this?
07:02.45goxboxlivegood night,
07:02.46paulproteustelnet git.asheesh.org 22
07:02.46goxboxliveokl
07:02.57paulproteusDo you get some sort of SSH welcome banner?
07:03.37goxboxlivepaulproteus: yes
07:03.39goxboxlivethat works
07:03.49paulproteusOkay, try this for me (just a guess):
07:03.53paulproteussudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1400
07:04.03paulproteusOh, hey
07:04.10paulproteusI see someone using the qtopia snapshot repo.
07:04.11paulproteusIs that you?
07:04.15goxboxlivepaulproteus: hmm git fetch works now
07:04.21paulproteusnods
07:04.25goxboxlivei added your ssh key and now it works
07:04.27paulproteusAnd it's done.
07:04.39goxboxlivethansk a lot
07:04.45goxboxlivegood noght, sleep tight
07:05.28paulproteusThanks!
07:26.27goxboxlivesomeone with git skills around?
07:41.43goxboxlivehmm seems like everything worked just fine now. I'll try to make a fresh Qtopia image
07:47.32goxboxliveit configured, now make.
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08:17.31marajinginge_: Morning
08:17.41ginge_morning
08:18.34marajinhowgoes?
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08:26.33ginge_not bad. Yourself?
08:29.58ginge_any sign of mr dcordes recently?
08:30.42marajinNope
08:30.52marajinI've been dead in bed from when we last spoke till 5am
08:31.03marajinand he's not been on since then
08:31.49marajinlooks like he may have been around about 8:30pm last night?
08:31.53marajin"dcordes_akita"
08:32.35marajinI can't see him elsewhere in my backlog though
08:32.57marajinginge_: Oh and in good news though, I spoke to my ISP and now get a full 2Mbps upstream :)
08:33.16ginge_wow!
08:33.45marajinginge_: They're awesomenes, I just phone them at 5am and say "do stuff!" and they're fine with it
08:34.01marajinamazingly I have a stable ADSL connection at a 3db SNR though
08:34.02marajinwhich is freaky
08:34.26marajinnearly 4 hours without a resync, it's pretty promising
08:34.52marajin20M/2M for 15/month is quite reasonable I feel
08:35.32ginge_more than reasonable
08:36.18ginge_anyhoo... I decided android is poo for now. Whats the next best thing to use? gpe?
08:45.22marajinI'd say Opie or openmoko when they defuck it
08:45.31marajinI think dcordes is holding out for moko
08:45.47ginge_oh well.
08:46.07marajintry building an opie-image I guess?
08:46.28marajinand I dunno what dcordes did but OE is now 8.4G (up from 7.9)
08:46.35marajinthat drive only has .5 G free!
08:46.44ginge_ouch
08:46.53ginge_did you test any of the images he built?
08:49.40marajinginge_: I can'tfind any, there's a huge amount of built packages but didn't see any actual images
08:50.13marajinI suppose I could free more space on the drive... It looks like it could be important at this point
08:50.36ginge_anyone seen the google msm git patches from 5 days ago? Martin__ doesn't look like anything too useful but I think someone who knows the smd stuff is better off looking over the google patches.
08:52.50marajinHaven't seen anyone mention
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08:58.40marajinginge_: I'll try building an opie-image and see what happens
08:59.12marajinginge_: looks like the last thing dcordes was trying to do was an fso-image and that failed a test
08:59.51ginge_he built a couple of angstrom images for me, which did not boot.
09:01.18marajinginge_: hmm, did he build them on perses or on his own machine?
09:01.38ginge_no too sure.
09:01.44marajinright
09:01.49marajinmaybe OE is broken on perses heh
09:02.00marajinor ran out of drive space, I dunno
09:02.44marajin...oh dear it's downloading more stuff too
09:04.27marajinginge_: Wow, no it looks really broken
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09:50.42marajindcordes: Morning =)
09:50.52ginge_dcordes: morning
09:50.52dcordesmoin
09:50.57dcordesmoin ginge_
09:51.28marajindcordes: Looks like that fso-image failed, I'm trying to run another one off now
09:51.38marajindcordes: 712 of 3600
09:51.44dcordeswhich?
09:51.53marajindcordes: Presumably the last one you tried to make
09:52.31ginge_also the angstrom-tslib doesn't work. The android image you put up has some execute issues on setupmodem.sh script. I also put a new setupmodem file up on my site for the next build.
10:00.44dcordeseverything broken
10:01.16dcordesginge_: could you just provide a working android?
10:01.33ginge_yeah, sure
10:01.44marajindcordes: OE uses insane amounts of disk space doesn't it? O.o
10:01.46ginge_I have one here with ssh and sshd too. SHould I keep that int he build
10:01.52dcordesthat would be the best. you know how it works
10:01.57dcordesmarajin: yes it does
10:02.15marajindcordes: I think OE isprobably bigger than the actual host OS now :p
10:02.27dcordesthat's a common thing
10:03.07marajindcordes: Well I free'd up some more space on the drive anyway. It nearly ran out
10:03.13dcordesginge_: of course stuff everyhting good in
10:08.11dcordesmarajin: are you building the openmoko-image now?
10:08.18marajindcordes: yeah
10:08.33marajindcordes: I think rsync's fucked
10:09.11marajindcordes: Looks like the gzip is corrupt
10:09.34dcordesyea I just lurked in when it failed
10:10.18dcordesbitbake -c rebuild
10:10.27dcordesrsync
10:10.51dcordesI don't know if that's important but I always run from org...
10:25.55ginge_whats the haret size limit for an initrd on kaiser?
10:26.25marajinginge_: Depends on your ROM I think? available RAM
10:26.32ginge_ah
10:26.42ginge_well, I think I just hit it at 24MB for my rom
10:26.53dcordestry cleaning up a bit
10:26.59dcordesin the rom
10:27.13dcordessome roms have that clean ram switch
10:30.27ginge_dzo has a new android image up
10:31.25dcordesginge_: do you know what it changes? there's nothing in dzo's chcangelog
10:31.38ginge_http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2385194&postcount=520
10:32.37dcordesI'll ask him for the sd code
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10:40.03dotlelehi, i've got an htc universal. there are some days that I use it with debian
10:40.28dotleleand i can't connect via usb to my linux pc
10:41.20dotlelethe problem is on my pc, with config_usb_net
10:42.14dotlelecan someone send me some useful link where i can read howto connect mi universal with my linux box?
10:43.57ginge_dcordes: looks like sdcc is in dzo's diff
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10:48.18dcordesginge_: do you think it has the relevant changes?
10:48.31ginge_dunno I would have to diff teh diff
10:49.17dcordesginge_: can you, or give me the previous diff?
10:49.56ginge_um, previous diff is in an open tab on my home machine/ I won't be able to check it until I get home
10:50.10dcordesok
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10:54.56dcordesNAME = Funky Weasel is Jiggy wit it
10:56.32ginge_made my chuckle too :)
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10:58.32ginge_hmm not actually convinced the sdcc code is in there
10:59.15dcordesthe stuff in msm_sdcc.c looks like minor changes to me
10:59.23dcordesnot that I would understand them ^^
10:59.58ginge_agreed (about minimal changes)
11:11.48dcordesginge_: I asked dzo to provide us with the sdcc stuff
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11:19.19ginge_hi dzo
11:23.08dcordesdzo: hi
11:23.26dzohi dcordes, I just sent you some mail.
11:23.30dcordesginge_: we were wrong the changes are already in. most is in clock-msm7x00.c
11:23.36dcordesdzo: just read it
11:23.59ginge_good stuff.
11:24.07dcordesdzo: do you have any sdio in vogue?
11:24.33dzoI don't think so, bt perhaps but i think that is serial.
11:24.58dcordesafaik on kaiser bluetooth is on an uart
11:25.15dzodo you have sdio?
11:25.19dcordesyes wifi
11:25.41dcordesTNETW1251
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11:25.47dzoif the sdcc driver works sdio should too but it's not quite there yet.
11:28.08dcordesok I hope San will be able to help
11:28.49dzoIf not I can always copy what the wince driver does.
11:29.28dcordesdo you have the previous diff so I can see what changed?
11:35.04dzoAll I did was implement clk_get, clk_set_rate etc.
11:35.10dzofor the sd clocks
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11:52.33ginge_dzo: how stable is Android while using the data connection for you on vogue?
11:53.37dzoit stays up for days.
11:54.13ginge_hmm. Kaiser seems to go for a couple of minutes and then locks up Android. In angstrom I can use it for hours
11:54.36dzowhich ril are you using?
11:54.57ginge_a butchered version of yours and your non-modified one,
11:55.23ginge_I tried the google one, but the phone doesn't work
11:56.29dzoI have made some changes to mine since i sent it to you, i'll send it again in the morning.
11:56.38ginge_ok, thanks.
11:58.26dzoalso, i've made changes to the irq code, the m2a irqs need different triggering i think.
11:58.39dzolook at vogueirq.c
11:58.59ginge_is that the arm11 smd irq?
12:00.16dzoyes, irq 3 and 4 for vogue. setting the bottom 8 bits in MSM_VIC+0x70 helped for me.
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12:23.44dcordesginge_: will you have a look at the sdcc code later?
12:23.54dcordesI don't really understand it
12:35.56ginge_dcordes: will do. I am just integrating the irq at the moment. I will look at sd afterwards
12:42.16dcordesok
12:42.17dcordesbbl
12:59.16goxboxlivehi
12:59.46goxboxliveinstead of "make" i can use something else so it doesnt kill my machine. Anyone rememberf?
12:59.51goxboxlivejmake?
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13:48.26Alex[sp3dev]hello, everyone. i`ve got a small problem. i have built the arm eabi toolchain, when i export ARCH and CROSS_COMPILER variables, hh kernel builds ok. but when i build sth on the vanilla from kernel.org, it simply wont boot, even if i build for a pda the kernel from which normaly starts on my (at least, fb). do i need special patches or variables setup?
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14:12.07goxboxlivehi Marex
14:12.15goxboxlivei need some help
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16:02.43marajinginge_: boo?
16:03.04marajinginge_: I think the image dcordes just had it build might be too large heh :P
16:03.21marajinginge_: 's looking like it's 37M after compression
16:15.10marajinginge_: Also huh, having more RAM seems not to help haret's assertions about max size, I appear to be limited to 25MB
16:15.26gingeboo
16:15.39AstainHellbringhard coded into haret from what I've seen
16:15.52gingethat explains that one then
16:16.08ginge36MB after compression? wow, we really need sd
16:16.17ginges/36MB/37MB/
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16:16.28AstainHellbringyes yes sd support would rock
16:16.49gingeI am half way through translating dzos sd work over to the kaiser
16:17.01AstainHellbringnice ginge
16:17.15AstainHellbringtoo bad dzo's latest report is that it wasn't so stable yet...
16:17.26gingeit gives us a head start at least
16:17.32AstainHellbringvery true
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16:19.46marajinginge: Yep..
16:20.24marajinginge: yeah openmoko image 37MB as a cpio.gz. Anyone good at "cleaning" the rootfs without killing it?
16:20.24AstainHellbringand maybe in the translation ginge you can fix the stability issues for both :)
16:22.35gingeI think I have the stability issue down now
16:22.40AstainHellbringoh?
16:22.47gingedzo pointed me to the irq code
16:23.03gingeI need to play some more, but it now stays up for about 15 mins before the lock
16:23.12marajinginge: Well I wish you all the luck you need for getting it working if we're stuck with images well overwhat haret'll allow >.<
16:23.36gingeyou can pack a fair amount into 25MB
16:23.47marajinapparently not the openmoko image ;)
16:24.01gingewell, never touched openmoko, so couldn't say
16:24.02marajinthough I can see it's put shit like kobo and whatnot in the image
16:24.07marajinwhich can be stripped out
16:24.13gingetime for a decruft
16:24.20marajinNot sure I can safely trim it by 12+ MB though
16:24.37marajinbut if anyone feels more confident about doing that I can provide the cpio.gz
16:27.31marajin93MB uncompressed.. ouch
16:28.32gingestupid question, but surely someone has an image already done that we can dice up? linwizard etc
16:28.59gingeor are they all massive because they have storage?
16:30.08marajinpretty much all too large I think
16:30.14marajinhuh, opkg is a hell ofa size
16:31.11marajin/usr/lib is by far the bulk of the image.
16:31.21marajin53M of 93M
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16:31.40marajinbut I have NFC what's essential in there
16:33.36gingehttp://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ ;)
16:35.46marajinginge: IF you want to bite that particular bullet, but I'll stick with waiting till we get big storage or something ;)
16:36.21marajinI'm still finding it scary that OE needs 4GB minimum to build 10MB GPE image
16:36.32gingeum, I just remembered that I have to be somewhere, and um, well... my fingers all just fell offf and I can't type any more
16:36.44marajinginge: Your nose must be getting flat then :P
16:36.59gingeactually I am using something else ;)
16:37.34marajinAh if only we'd rigged your keyboard to the mains..
16:38.54gingeheh. In all seriousness I will be afk for a while. I will get back to figuring out if teh sd code works in a bit.
16:39.06marajinno worries
16:39.16marajinI'm about ready to fall asleep and get qwerty-faced anywy
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16:40.47marajinHmm, of interest does anyone know WHY haret is limited to 25M? is just an arbitrary number the dev chose or is there a reason?
16:40.57marajinand if it's just an arbitrary number, can we easily change it?
16:41.41AstainHellbringmarajin we have access to source dont we?
16:42.48marajinAstainHellbring: for haret? I believe so
16:43.02marajinBut I know VERY little about it
16:43.54marajinif it's just an arbitrary number well.. my kaiser has about 50MB free. and deleting the games saved us 2MB anyway.
16:44.11marajinI imagine the image would boot with 128 - 35 MB of free RAM too
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16:47.22marajindcordes: woot, so er, the image built but the rootfs is huge
16:47.44marajindcordes: 37MB as cpio.gz
16:49.27dcordesso we neeed sd
16:49.40dcordescool that it finished at all :)
16:49.42marajindcordes: Or a maaajor diet for openmoko. Just deleting the games it includes saves us 2MB
16:50.04dcordesfind for mp3s wav files
16:50.22marajindcordes: Also, can't we change the arbitrary 25MB limit on haret?
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16:50.37dcordesis it hardcoded?
16:50.43marajindcordes: No, no it does not limit based on available ram. The number won't change if I free more RAM
16:50.58marajindcordes: It's just limited to 25MB yep
16:51.16marajindcordes: My kaiser has ~ 50MB free when I run haret and it still says 25MB max
16:51.19dcordesharet git is in linuxtogo
16:51.32dcordeshttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=kevin/haret.git;a=tree+
16:51.35dcordeshttp://git.linuxtogo.org/?p=kevin/haret.git;a=tree
16:52.01marajinwell you know more about it than me. I have NFC about haret but it's very obviously not going to let me use more than 25MB image for some reason
16:52.25dcordeslinboot.cpp probably
16:53.00goxboxlivehi dcordes
16:53.30dcordes<PROTECTED>
16:53.40dcordeshi goxboxlive
16:54.19goxboxlivei have build a qtopia image now. I havent done that for several months
16:54.43goxboxlivethe source has been quite more stable that for some months ago
17:01.08marajinAnyone have the facility to build haret real easy?
17:01.41dcordesKevin2 sure does
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17:09.56marajinrmoravcik: Hey you ever build custom haret?
17:14.04BabelOgoxboxlive: now, yes :)
17:22.45dcordesginge_: ping
17:25.17gingedcordes: pong
17:26.27dcordeshow's sdcc? I've seen in the log you poked around with it
17:26.48gingeI started the port, but there are a lot of things slightly different... as per usual.
17:27.20dcordeshm yea the diff is also against 2.6.25
17:27.33goxboxlivehi BabelO :-) i figured it out ( nice make)
17:28.41gingeI don't think the fact we are not using .25 is going to hurt at the moment. I doubt this will even work properly yet. dzo is still hacking it.
17:29.36dcordesginge: dzo said with the clock code in the patch and the 2.6.24 rest of the code it works better
17:30.08gingeso we are better off on .24?
17:30.25dcordesI think so did you get the query?
17:30.38gingeib/dropbear  DROPBEAR_RSAKEY_DEFAULT="/var/query?which
17:30.44gingegrr. which query?
17:31.21dcordesThe 2.6.25 driver recognises the card and finds the partitions correctly but crashes, using the same clock code with
17:31.25dcordesthe 2.6.24 code works a bit better and can read and write files for a while but eventually locks up
17:31.56gingeno, I didn't see any reference to that. Interesting to know though
17:32.12gingeat least a benchmark for how it should work
17:32.41dcordessorry I didn't tell you earlier
17:32.58gingemeh. It's not like I am anywhere near ready to even do a make
17:33.20dcordeswhat about all those regs in clock.c? do we have the required info?
17:33.36dcordesin the memory map is some sdcc clock stuff
17:34.00dcordeswow did you notice the smem update?
17:34.11gingewhere?
17:34.17dcordesin the kaiser memory map
17:34.25gingeno
17:34.40dcordeshttp://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=KaiserMemoryMap premy updated it to something very detailed
17:35.01gingedo you still want the old diff from dzo?
17:35.58gingenice one premy. At least we won't have to dig through off tree source to get that
17:37.07dcordesginge: yes I'm kind of interested in what changed for sdcc
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17:37.52gingesent
17:38.04dcordesthanks a lot
17:42.32dcordesginge: did you notice he ripped off MSM_SDC3 and 4 in msm_iomap.h?
17:42.52gingeripped off?
17:42.58dcordesjust deleted them
17:43.04gingeI see
17:43.22gingeare you diffing the diff?
17:43.30dcordesyes
17:43.45dcordesI wonder why he left  #define MSM_SDC3_BASE         0xE1002000
17:48.03gingeone thing I did notice that gives us a fighting chance of it working... there are no more references to proc_comm in those functions
17:52.12marajinI think getting haret to compile will give me a headache
17:58.00marajinI'm too tired and I haven't eaten yet today... if there's anyone who has a working haret you spot get them to switch that MAX_INDEX and run off a quick build for us just to see if that makes life easier
17:58.40marajinIt'll have to go to 9 to fit the openmoko image though
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17:59.11cr2kiozen: i've reached my computer.
17:59.31kiozengood pace :)
17:59.50BabelOlol
17:59.52BabelOhi
18:00.44dcordeshi cr2
18:00.44kiozencr2:  I have fixed the projection stuff and the keys
18:01.18cr2kiozen: nice to hear that. and thanks for the hospitality :D
18:01.36cr2hi BabelO
18:01.41kiozenwelcome :)
18:01.47cr2BabelO: i've returned back home now.
18:02.26BabelOcr2: i see :) so haret not compiling yesturday evening ?
18:02.42cr2kiozen: i'll look at the battery stuff now.
18:02.48dcordescr2: dzo has mmc working on vogue. he's able to do reads/writes with the card, but it's unstable so far.
18:03.02kiozenBabelO: we just commented every line throwing an error
18:03.08cr2BabelO: we didn#t try to compile, it was too late and would have taken too long.
18:03.33BabelOok
18:03.35cr2dcordes: ok. did he publish the patch ?
18:04.51dcordescr2: yes the usual patch on his website http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/diffs . ginge already looked into porting it to kaiser tree.
18:05.32dcordescr2: also premy got proc_comm working. on my kaiser I can use the vibrate with it
18:05.34gingeok, it is all in there I think. Anyone want to lay bets on the amount of errors for the first compile?
18:05.48dcordes2
18:05.59ginge2? hmm optimist eh?
18:06.04dcordesnever
18:06.19gingewell, you lose anyway
18:06.32dcordeslet's see
18:06.37gingeI would count the errors but they scrolled off the end of the buffer.
18:06.43gingecoughs
18:06.44cr2dcordes: more error reporting in the SDC code may be helpful
18:07.10dcordesginge: there are two debug switches in msm_sdcc.c
18:07.13Zooloochi folks, need a custom haret build or what?
18:07.26cr2dcordes:  i think you can merge the clock code anyway.
18:07.31dcordesZoolooc: yes marajin wants to turn off the 25M ramdisk limit
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18:16.52Zooloocalright, where is that piece of code, any idea?
18:17.31marajincr2: You're doing compiles of haret? we need a haret with a nicer limit on initrd size and getting the env set up for haret is giving me a headache right now
18:20.08gingeZoolooc: "get them to switch that MAX_INDEX [to 9]"
18:20.36marajinheh
18:20.47marajinyeah I think a MAX_INDEX of 9 in linboot.cpp should do it
18:21.26gingequestion is, why is there a limit?
18:21.35Zooloocso it's 6 now and yiu want it to be 9, right?
18:21.40marajinyep
18:23.03marajinZoolooc: For some reason it limits us to what seems to be 25MB see, and some images are coming out at like 35-37MB
18:23.14marajinginge: Weren't you having issues with hitting the limit too?
18:23.37gingeyeah, when I crammed too much an an android image
18:23.44cr2marajin: the old cegcc does not compile the latest haret v6 specific code. i need to recompile cegcc.
18:24.05marajincr2: Figures, Looks like Zoolooc is going to sort it out for us tho' :)
18:24.42Zooloocalright, wher should I emal it?
18:24.53Zooloocdamned keyboard
18:27.32dcordesmarajin: with the MAX_INDEX that was just a thought of what could be the max boot size var
18:28.49dcordeshave to leave terminal bbl
18:28.58marajindcordes: from the code it seems to be the only thing that matters but we'll see :)
18:33.25marajind'oh! I turn out to be a few bytes short of the full image hah. well my de-gamed image should fit fine.
18:34.46marajinaaaaand... er,I think it's booting..maybe
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18:35.52marajinI'm prettysure it left haret but it's seem
18:36.00marajin+s to be froze
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18:37.00MarexpH5: hi ;)
18:37.05pH5hej Marex
18:37.15Marex"hej" is czech ;-)
18:37.27marajinhej is many languages Marex
18:37.38Marexisnt that "hey" ?
18:38.02marajinisn't it hej in dutch and swedish?
18:38.22MarexpH5: anyway ... have you seen Eric's comment on matrix_keypad ?
18:38.34MarexpH5: kthread is really something ... it blows my mind :(
18:38.59marajinginge: Looks like haret may be ok but the image is naffed. You still have your oversized android image and feel like seeing if that boots?
18:39.11Marexmarajin: might be
18:39.30gingemarajin: no, deleted it
18:39.37marajinginge: bah
18:39.50marajinginge: I'll see if the known good images boot I guess
18:40.06marajinthen maybe fatten one of them up to see what happens
18:40.12MarexpH5: btw do you use jabber and mind sharing jid ? ;)
18:40.48pH5hi marajin
18:40.49pH5and norwegian and danish I believe. no matter what, I like it (and it's more fun to type than hey).
18:40.49gingemarajin: yeah, just dd some random into it :)
18:41.08pH5Marex: I haven't read it yet and I don't mind.
18:42.16marajinhmmm... no it looks like android-data still boots
18:42.26marajinI wondered for a minute but it did kick in
18:44.48marajinginge: Hah, FWIW I now have a green G in android too
18:45.24MarexpH5: can you PM me your contact then  ? :)
18:45.44gingemarajin: :)
18:46.04marajinginge: NFC why.. hmm so anyway I think it's just a buggered image then
18:46.18marajinginge: Still good to know we can have fatter images now :)
18:46.19pH5Marex: it's pH5@jabber.org
18:46.26marajinZoolooc: Thanks again for the custom build
18:46.51gingemarajin: fancy forwarding :)
18:47.12marajinginge: one sec, I'll whack it on http
18:48.10marajinginge: http://marajin.w-ww.org/hartet-largerd.tbz2
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18:48.50Zooloocmarajin & all, you're welcome, I hope it helps
18:50.59cr2Marex: found your e-mail
18:51.19cr2Marex: btw, it's 8750. says jj.org wiki :)
18:51.54pH5Marex: I guess what he writes makes sense.
18:51.57pH5hi cr2
18:52.13pH5do you know which charging ic universal uses? is it ti bq2402x like magician and blueangel?
18:52.20cr2hi pH5
18:52.46Marexcr2: please do ... I made a copypaste error and they started torturing me for it
18:52.48cr2pH5: no idea. when i've opened my universal, there we some small chips i could not identify.
18:53.10cr2Marex: ok.
18:53.20Marexcr2: arigato gosaimashita :)
18:53.20pH5doesn't want to open his hx4700 to find out if it's the same there.
18:55.33Marexcr2: btw you did notice my aSoC audio support for palmtx, didnt you ?
18:57.55kiozencr2: how can I get the current cpu speed?
18:58.45cr2Marex: applied your patch
18:59.00cr2kiozen: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
18:59.15pH5kiozen: or /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq if you have cpufreq support
18:59.17cr2kiozen: there should be some cpu related files in /sys
18:59.58cr2pH5: is the magician 2.6.26+ code usable ? we were thinking about porting the n560 code with kiozen.
19:00.15cr2pH5: but we need htc-egpio and pxa_serial power.
19:00.26Marexcr2: go ahead ... you can wrap the aSoC in it
19:00.38cr2Marex: i though it was the 8750 code ? :D
19:00.38pH5cr2: go for it.
19:00.41Marexcr2: pxa_serial isnt there
19:01.01Marexcr2: wait for .27, that might be better idea
19:01.25kiozenok, that does the trick: /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
19:01.31cr2pH5: afair the htc-egpio works, but we need serial power for bt and gps. both are working very well with the hh.org CVS
19:01.36pH5magician is not usable for end users because I'm missing touch screen and a few other things, but it's usable for me because ssh login and pxamci work.
19:01.56marajinginge: I'm gonna start a gpe-image building just for something to keep it busy for a while :P
19:02.11cr2pH5: pxamci works now ?
19:02.21pH5_pxa_mci. always has.
19:02.25pH5(for some cards)
19:02.27MarexpH5: pxamci :_
19:02.29Marex:)
19:02.42cr2pH5: you was talking about some align bugs with MArex
19:02.49pH5yup, I fixed that.
19:02.51cr2ok.
19:03.02MarexpH5: I pointed out the bug though :p
19:03.19pH5Marex: yes, and you even fixed it before me, just not properly ;)
19:03.27Marex(because I _HAD_ a broken card ;) )
19:06.22kiozencr2: http://pastebin.no/11366
19:06.28kiozencr2 what do I wrong
19:08.37kiozenah think I know
19:10.47MarexpH5: well ... my broken card now rests in piece ;)
19:11.21pH5Marex: good to know that you *could* now use it though, if only it still worked.
19:11.49pH5yay, i2c hangups were just caused by me improperly merging dmitry's clock patches
19:11.59Marexwell I have another 1GB one ... also a broken version :)
19:12.20MarexpH5: :S I wont bother you then ...
19:15.05marajinMarex: You need to break things less!
19:26.05marajingood lord sometimes OE gives weird errors
19:28.04goxboxliveBabelO: still here?
19:28.22BabelOgoxboxlive: yes
19:28.54goxboxliveBabelO: have you vere tried building CityMap from qtopia?
19:28.59goxboxlivehttp://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/viewcat.php?cid=2
19:29.32BabelOgoxboxlive: no never :(
19:29.37BabelOgoxboxlive: you try on neo ?
19:30.34goxboxliveBabelO: no, i have just buildied a image for my mioa701, and i tried to add the source of citymap in Qtopia, but it was just a maess with several folders and some greenphone stuff
19:30.45goxboxlivei dont know how to build it
19:31.04BabelOok
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19:41.43dcordesginge: so how many errors did you get?
19:42.14ginge<PROTECTED>
19:42.23gingedown to about 5 now
19:42.28dcordesnice
19:42.48gingethen I need to check all addresses are correct
19:50.53dcordesginge: the clock*.c
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20:03.52marajinginge: Looks like maybe haret is broken with oversized images :(
20:04.19gingeoh well. it must expand past the end of the ram
20:04.36marajinginge: Impossible
20:05.15marajinbut maybe it can't address it
20:05.33marajinI dunno but any which way it's not booting my 'fatstrom' 32M image
20:05.39marajinso here's hoping on the SD
20:05.42gingewhat about 26MB?
20:05.57marajindemanding bugger :P let me try.
20:06.04gingelol
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20:07.47pH5hm, I wonders what happens in those 3 seconds between
20:07.50pH5[  580.964241] NET: Registered protocol family 1
20:07.51pH5and
20:07.52pH5[  583.649241] PXA CPU frequency change support initialized
20:11.23marajinpH5: Something wonderful!
20:11.59marajinpH5: All the little pixies inside your HTC device get set free to have a 3 second rest.
20:14.06pH5ah, ok then.
20:14.14pH5now I just worry why I wrote "I wonders" as if in third person.
20:14.35marajinturning into an 8 year old kid you are
20:15.26marajinginge: Nah, 26M fatstrom = same freeze
20:15.43ginge25.1?
20:15.47ginge;)
20:15.56gingeI guess there is a limit for a reason
20:16.05marajinyou measuring the seconds till I kick you in the balls? :P
20:16.22marajinginge: Maybe, or we have to change more code to get haret to talk to anything after that 25M barrier
20:16.34marajinI guess we should talk to the haret devs?
20:20.36cr2goxboxlive: it will probably suck compared to roadmap.
20:21.58cr2goxboxlive: using .osm xml as a map format is the most dumb idea i can imagine :) neither navit nor navipowm do it.
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21:04.35goxboxlivecr2: i c, I have no idea about this. It's would be just fun to try it out though.
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21:37.23wasupok... anyone in here?
21:38.02tcccperm
21:38.02gingeerr.... no
21:38.06tcccpphysically...yes
21:38.08tcccpmentally: tv
21:38.26wasupok.. so anyone got any updates on the titan?
21:38.32wasupwell linux on the titan?
21:39.43dzoI've nearly got the sd driver working for titan.
21:40.03wasupyeah?
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21:41.08dzoyeah, very flakey though.
21:41.53wasupa little more info...
21:42.56dzoit finds the card and can mount it but hangs after some data transfers, still trying to find out why.
21:43.42dzopatches at http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue if you want to try it.
21:44.23wasupdude... im like so happy
21:44.29wasupill try it right now...
21:44.55dzowell, it doesn't work, so don't get too excited!!
21:45.52cr2*0x7530 / 2^12
21:47.03wasupbut i thought like the project was dead... but thats cool your still working on it
21:47.55cr27,32422
21:49.28wasupso the new itrid has the sd built in or what?
21:49.37wasupor semi built in
21:49.49wasupi mean zimage
21:50.35pH5good night
21:50.37dzoNo, i disabled it till it works.
21:51.35wasupoh... well am i allowed to test it?
21:52.10wasupi hate my phone the way it is right now... so u need a beta tester or anything..just let me know
21:52.33dzosure, you will have to patch latest android-msm-2.6.25 and compile the kernel though.
21:53.11wasupi shall do... with some help from google.
21:53.17wasup:)
21:54.37wasupwhat is the file called on your http://cs-alb-pc3.massey.ac.nz/vogue server?
21:55.09dzodiffs
21:56.30wasupok... so i download that and compile the kernal?
21:57.16dzoinstall toolchain, clone android git, patch, make menuconfig, compile
22:01.04dzoOK, to save you some effort, i've put zImage-sd on the site, also get initrd.gz and boot into that to test.
22:01.07wasupcool...thank you
22:02.03dzoif the last kernel message is p1, that means it has found a partition on your card.
22:02.32wasupok..ill let u know..
22:03.10wasupi dont see the link for the zimage-sd
22:05.25wasupi typed this in http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/Zimage-sd still didnt see anythign
22:05.31dzono, it's there though. capital I
22:05.32wasup"http://it029000.massey.ac.nz/vogue/Zimage-sd"
22:05.48dzozImage-sd
22:06.14wasupoh ok...haha
22:17.36wasupdefault.txt....   i have... set MTYPE 1667 set KERNEL zImage  set initrd initrd.gz
22:17.50wasupis that wrong?
22:18.28wasupnm... i found out. forgot the -sd
22:27.19wasupi cant get haret to boot the default.txt
22:28.43dzotry adding console=ttyMSM0 to the end of cmdline
22:29.14dzothat should show more boot messages
22:31.56wasupwell it botted...
22:32.00wasupbooted
22:32.18dzowhat was the last message?
22:32.19wasupmmc0: new sd card at address 254b
22:32.23wasupoh last one?
22:32.54wasupit was trying to initialize the modem
22:33.22wasupdns server ip is 0.0.0.0 was the last line
22:34.30dzook, did it give you an ip address for ppp0.
22:35.02dzoif you press the camera button do you get a keyboard?
22:35.28wasupyeah...but the keyboard is just flashing a bunch
22:36.11wasupmy ip is 127.0.0.1 <--thats the second to last line... i cant find that pp0
22:36.20dzook, at least it boots, and it looks like it found your sd card.
22:37.28wasupyeah.. :) is thatwhat mmc0: new sd card at address 254b means?
22:38.13wasupi took the set cmdline "ppp.username=mobile@jamamobile ppp.password=telecom" out of default is that why it couldnt initialize my modem?
22:39.21dzoyes, you need to find your ppp username and password, or start haret with an existing data connection.
22:40.16wasupprobably a stupid question but how do i find my username and password? isnt that in device info or something?
22:41.28dzodepends on the network, some (like telecom NZ) use a single username and password for everybody.
22:42.08wasupi have sprint
22:42.18wasupill try to find out..
22:42.39wasupwhen i press my end key.. the cmd lind says ^[[4^^
22:43.09wasupdoes that mean hardware keys might work? and possibly the keyboard on our titans might work?
22:43.23dzocheck through the xda vogue android thread for others on the same network. Yes, kbd won't work.
22:43.42wasupthe shift key gives random input too
22:43.47wasupon my keyboard
22:44.15wasupand the q key.. but nm that... whats the next step?
22:44.40dzotry touching the screen with the cam button pressed down.
22:44.56wasupshit... i just rebooted it.. give me a sec..
22:45.41wasupit boots fast...
22:45.54dzonever mind, if you can get an ip you can telnet to the phone over the air with nc IP 4321
22:46.42wasupok.. let me try to find my data information
22:47.14wasupso i booted it again and this time the keyboard wont show...wierd
22:47.42dcordesyo
22:48.31dcordesdzo: did you hear something from san?
22:48.57dzono, i'm making progress though.
22:49.33dcordesso you can stay longe without oops now?
22:49.40dcordess/longe/longer/
22:50.36dzono oops, just hangs, it's fine for small transfers but anything large just waits forever.
22:51.04dcordesdid you try using a rootfs on sd?
22:51.41dzono, that won't work till it's more stable.
22:52.03wasuphey i found my username... but i have no clue about the password
22:52.32dzojust boot with an existing connection then.
22:54.22dcordesginge: still around?
22:55.07gingedcordes: yeah
22:55.53dcordesginge: how's the code?
22:56.26dzoginge: i had a thought about your data problems, do you have use-ppp=yes in your setupmodem.sh, it should be no
22:56.38gingedcordes: only just got back to looking at it
22:56.44gingedzo: will check now
22:57.18gingedzo: I also implemented your irq fixup. It seemed to last longer, but sometimes that happened anyway
22:57.45Kevin2marajin: There is a cegcc rpm - just install the rpm and then type "make" in the haret directory.
22:58.00gingedzo: ro.radio.use-ppp no
22:58.27dzothat's not it then
22:59.25gingedzo: I think it may be ril related. The google libreference lasted for much longer on the data connection
22:59.43gingedzo: not really had time to look into it though
22:59.54dzook, i'll send the latest i have.
23:00.05gingethanks.
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23:05.34wasuphow do i do that?
23:05.49wasuplike just go on the internet then open haret?
23:06.01wasup(sorry for the long reply im at work..hahaha)
23:07.59dcordeswasup: I think that's what dzo meant
23:10.25wasupwhat did he mean? im lost
23:11.03dcordesget only before you boot into linux in order to have the internet connection with your provider already present
23:11.39wasupso when i hold the camera button down... and move my finger across the screen it goes crazy with touchscreen calibration
23:12.17wasupi did... can i use wifi or is that driver not present?
23:12.37wasupi had it loading myspace in the background.. and it still asks me for username and password
23:13.11dcordeswifi is not yet present
23:13.32dcordeswasup: sorry I fear I can't help you then. I only have kaiser. you are on titan, right?
23:14.42wasupyep
23:14.55wasupill find the username and password
23:30.42dcordesI wonder if titan has same sdio wifi as kaiser
23:30.47dcordescr2: do you know?
23:38.34CPresshey guys
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23:47.26wasupwasup
23:47.45dcordeshi CPress
23:50.47wasupdang... im still trying to find the sprint username and password anybody have any ideaS?
23:58.16CPresswould this help you? http://vocaro.com/trevor/treo-dun/
23:58.48CPressOr, what if you just leave it blank?

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