| 00:00.48 | marajin | still no go on calls either |
| 00:01.02 | marajin | and can't hang up (it ignores the presses, isn't hung) |
| 00:01.11 | ginge | not checked calls in a while |
| 00:01.18 | dcordes | ginge: my android image with your own kernel build? |
| 00:01.29 | ginge | dcordes: your kernel build |
| 00:02.36 | dcordes | with the zImage currently on my kaiser calls work |
| 00:02.45 | ginge | I am fairly sure my calls work too |
| 00:02.57 | marajin | Crazy german kaisers I say :p |
| 00:03.30 | dcordes | ginge: with the bootkit zImage? |
| 00:03.35 | ginge | yes |
| 00:03.39 | dcordes | ok |
| 00:03.52 | ginge | just booting mine again. you never know, the first might have been a fluke |
| 00:04.34 | marajin | ginge: I'm copying your initrd now, shall I use dcordes' zImage? |
| 00:04.52 | ginge | yes, that seems ok. just booting now so will soon find out |
| 00:06.13 | marajin | Right,booting... froze I think |
| 00:06.20 | marajin | in Haret o.o; |
| 00:06.30 | ginge | it happens |
| 00:06.39 | marajin | I have never actually frozen in Haret |
| 00:06.42 | ginge | all the fscking time :/ |
| 00:06.56 | marajin | nah seriously /never/ till now |
| 00:07.12 | marajin | the only other times I've failed to get passed haret I had a 1kb zImage :P |
| 00:07.19 | ginge | I suppose I do an unnatural amount of boots |
| 00:08.15 | marajin | I boot pretty often. figure I'd have seen it freeze afore now |
| 00:08.23 | marajin | maybe it's cause I opened the slide before it'd loaded |
| 00:08.25 | ginge | stock rom? |
| 00:08.36 | ginge | yeah that always seems to lock mine up |
| 00:08.38 | marajin | nah, L26 Diamond V9 |
| 00:08.59 | dcordes | marajin: it is because you openned the slide |
| 00:09.04 | marajin | ginge: TBH I sometimes slide it out early but its rare enough that it's possible I did it at a point it wasn't happy here |
| 00:09.05 | ginge | works fine here |
| 00:09.19 | dcordes | the framebuffer can't be taken over then properly or so |
| 00:09.33 | ginge | ahh. I guess there is an interrupt or something? |
| 00:09.33 | dcordes | I experienced that before |
| 00:09.50 | dcordes | there is a gpio on the cpld for that |
| 00:10.13 | ginge | ahh. no cpld->gpio interrupt tho |
| 00:10.32 | dcordes | http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_CPLD |
| 00:10.41 | dcordes | GPIOF5 0x0020 Keyboard open/close |
| 00:11.05 | ginge | right, but it is polled by the keyboard driver because we can't find any reference to the cpld irq |
| 00:11.32 | ginge | I can hang up the call in my image too |
| 00:11.41 | ginge | did I make some changes I forgot about?!? |
| 00:11.53 | marajin | ello,the network host unknown took much longer t happen tis time |
| 00:12.03 | ginge | still happened? |
| 00:12.16 | marajin | yeah but it wasn't instant error a la dcordes |
| 00:12.25 | marajin | I think it's having issues getting a signal maybe. |
| 00:12.27 | ginge | maybe ppp isnt up yet |
| 00:12.37 | ginge | try again now |
| 00:13.25 | ginge | look for arrows over the G |
| 00:13.39 | dcordes | do they indicate gprs being up? |
| 00:13.45 | ginge | yes |
| 00:13.51 | marajin | nope, still gray |
| 00:13.52 | marajin | hmm |
| 00:13.57 | dcordes | I didn't know that and I didn't wait before |
| 00:14.06 | marajin | will it auto try? |
| 00:14.12 | ginge | um... |
| 00:14.30 | dcordes | trying to boot the tscal image now |
| 00:14.34 | ginge | dunno. can you try calls in your zimage |
| 00:14.36 | marajin | er *auto retry |
| 00:14.44 | dcordes | last time I updated my angstrom build it didn't boot.. |
| 00:14.57 | ginge | marajin: is your kaiser different somehow? |
| 00:15.14 | marajin | ginge: Don't think so, KAIS130 |
| 00:15.15 | ginge | or are you PAYG |
| 00:15.20 | marajin | nope |
| 00:15.28 | marajin | contract + unlimited data |
| 00:15.39 | ginge | hrm. just tested with my voda sim, and still working ok |
| 00:16.49 | marajin | I'm wondering if it's having signal problems... but getting a uber signal in this house is only in one spot and that'd involve standing on top of someone who's asleep |
| 00:16.53 | marajin | they might not like it |
| 00:17.08 | ginge | only one way to find out ;) |
| 00:17.37 | dcordes | seems like the ts things are just broken in OE. I built with EXTRA_INSTALL (the common way in OE to add up things to your rootfs) and it is still looking for ts_open |
| 00:19.03 | marajin | I assume gray G means no GPRS signal and whatnot? |
| 00:19.25 | marajin | android seems to have real issues getting signals were WM doesn't mind I have to note... that may be my issue with calls too |
| 00:20.41 | marajin | Is android going to "reacquire" the GPRS if I wander into a signal it likes or am I going to need it at bootup? |
| 00:21.29 | ginge | not sure |
| 00:21.35 | ginge | at bootup |
| 00:21.55 | marajin | oh joy |
| 00:22.10 | marajin | sighs, grabs his hermes too and wanders out into the street. |
| 00:32.37 | marajin | and our survey says.. |
| 00:32.41 | marajin | NGGGGHT! |
| 00:33.11 | ginge | hmm |
| 00:33.13 | marajin | No I'm sorry, no kaiser data or calls in the street either. |
| 00:33.32 | ginge | no calls either?!? |
| 00:33.35 | marajin | I have /once/ made a call with android though, so I'm suspecting it's issues with the signal |
| 00:33.42 | ginge | dcordes: calls work for you? |
| 00:34.06 | marajin | ginge: Nope, can't call in, can't call out.. it took me a while to get it to even try and dial and then it just stays 'dialing' forever, can't hang up |
| 00:34.32 | ginge | its broken |
| 00:34.37 | marajin | I'm not sure Wtf that was, the button mapping seems glitchy |
| 00:34.38 | dcordes | lol |
| 00:34.54 | dcordes | we should start working from the same source |
| 00:35.00 | marajin | I spammed random buttons for a bit and then suddenly pressin the green button worked |
| 00:35.09 | dcordes | I'm not even 100% sure the git is ok at this point |
| 00:35.15 | marajin | heh :p |
| 00:35.20 | ginge | dcordes: well I tried your bootkit zimage and your android and it doesn't work |
| 00:35.27 | dcordes | what is on my phone, enables me to call in android atm |
| 00:35.36 | ginge | dcordes: well I tried your bootkit zimage and _my_ android and it does work |
| 00:35.42 | marajin | need to clean house, do fresh testing on git and work from ther then huh? |
| 00:36.16 | marajin | I'm using dcordes zImage and ginge initrd and it currently boots and tries a bit harder than dcordes initrd bt fails anyway. |
| 00:36.23 | dcordes | what we really need is martin__'s ubermerge tree |
| 00:36.25 | marajin | Btw... your signal strength meters |
| 00:36.31 | marajin | do they actually /work/ ? |
| 00:36.33 | ginge | 1 bar. fubar |
| 00:36.44 | ginge | it is on a todo list somewhere |
| 00:36.49 | marajin | so it says 1 bar permanently? even if there's no signal? |
| 00:36.52 | marajin | bugger :p |
| 00:37.04 | ginge | infact I was just going to boot an image to see if I can get that data out :) |
| 00:37.52 | marajin | would it be possible to read from the console? |
| 00:37.56 | marajin | It might be enlightening |
| 00:38.35 | ginge | you could set up an outgoing ssh and push the tail of the logs out in one fat stream |
| 00:39.39 | dcordes | somebody aroun with ts_calibrate experience? |
| 00:40.25 | dcordes | ginge: can't you just put a scripts that sets up a tunnel? |
| 00:40.37 | ginge | yeah easily |
| 00:40.48 | marajin | ginge: I could, if I could get data going :P anyone got a data enabled console image for me to play with? |
| 00:41.25 | marajin | Console linux with data would have some fun applications even at the moment actually.. |
| 00:41.36 | dcordes | pick the one from bootkit |
| 00:41.39 | ginge | well we know that works in angstrom |
| 00:41.43 | dcordes | it has ginge's ppp.sh script in /usr/bin |
| 00:41.47 | marajin | nice |
| 00:41.53 | marajin | what's the paramater order for ppp.sh? |
| 00:42.01 | dcordes | apn user pass |
| 00:42.04 | ginge | just run it, it tells you |
| 00:42.18 | ginge | boooooyah |
| 00:42.21 | ginge | booooooooooooooooooooooooooooyah |
| 00:42.33 | dcordes | ginge: could you put an example on how such a tunnel script would look? |
| 00:42.38 | ginge | I have battery, signal and godknows what else going |
| 00:42.42 | marajin | Ali-G with ginger hair? it'd never wor |
| 00:42.43 | marajin | k |
| 00:43.03 | dcordes | ginge: proc_comm? |
| 00:43.19 | ginge | dcordes: no, signal comes in through AT commans |
| 00:43.27 | ginge | AT+HTCCSQ |
| 00:43.38 | dcordes | oh so you fiddled around with theril? |
| 00:43.54 | ginge | no, I put the google ril back |
| 00:44.13 | dcordes | nobody tried that before?? |
| 00:44.22 | ginge | i guess not :) |
| 00:44.27 | dcordes | can you call? |
| 00:44.34 | ginge | no crashing either |
| 00:44.40 | ginge | sweeeeet |
| 00:44.45 | dcordes | call sms? |
| 00:44.52 | ginge | one mo :-) |
| 00:45.01 | marajin | Are the nodes auto-setup in the current angstrom image dcordes ? |
| 00:45.04 | ginge | spoke too soon. crash |
| 00:45.18 | dcordes | right.. I was thinking about doing that but I ditched the plan not finding the original image |
| 00:45.40 | ginge | its all in /system/lib and system/usr/lib |
| 00:45.40 | dcordes | marajin: yep. I mknod'D them on my host pc |
| 00:46.01 | marajin | heh, right |
| 00:46.15 | ginge | okay, so... what else can I expect to work? |
| 00:46.51 | ginge | hmm. maps app makes it lock hard. Anything with a large data transfer, actually |
| 00:47.03 | marajin | heh |
| 00:47.05 | marajin | figures |
| 00:48.07 | ginge | phone app hangs :/ |
| 00:48.31 | marajin | ginge: better fire up that microwave again ;) |
| 00:48.36 | ginge | lol |
| 00:49.46 | marajin | huh, when I check ifconfig it doesn't return anything |
| 00:49.56 | ginge | anyone know a good way to test sms |
| 00:50.02 | marajin | wait, yes I've got ppp0 now |
| 00:50.12 | dcordes | marajin: rerun the script, check if you have set apn right |
| 00:50.31 | dcordes | ok.. it works quite reliable for me |
| 00:50.34 | marajin | oh.. christ how do I ctrl + c on it? |
| 00:50.36 | dcordes | ie it always just works |
| 00:50.38 | dcordes | haha |
| 00:50.40 | marajin | I tried pinging without thinking abou |
| 00:50.41 | dcordes | better not try |
| 00:50.58 | ginge | marajin you cant. we need to start using a proper tty |
| 00:50.59 | dcordes | I open everything in a screen session because ctrl+a+d works |
| 00:51.05 | marajin | I'm getting buzz on my headset but no ping timings |
| 00:51.16 | ginge | dns? |
| 00:51.25 | marajin | did actually resolve |
| 00:52.07 | marajin | "PING w-ww.org (87.194.102.189)" |
| 00:52.09 | marajin | 's me |
| 00:52.20 | marajin | so I'm getting SOMETHING cause I get an IP address and DNS resolves |
| 00:52.31 | dcordes | in the image I'm in, ctrl+c works |
| 00:52.50 | dcordes | it's because I still have that odd script for init, infernix provided |
| 00:53.33 | dcordes | just ln -s /sbin/init.sysvinit / |
| 00:53.37 | dcordes | just ln -s /sbin/init.sysvinit /init |
| 00:53.49 | ginge | sms is working |
| 00:53.52 | marajin | sweet, ginge smsed me |
| 00:54.38 | dcordes | or in cmdline put init=/sbin/init.sysvinit |
| 00:54.50 | dcordes | should work with the current bootkit angstrom.bin also |
| 00:54.56 | dcordes | ginge: from android? |
| 00:54.57 | ginge | dcordes: cool |
| 00:56.19 | ginge | sms receive is not working |
| 00:56.27 | ginge | phone is not working |
| 00:57.05 | ginge | no G symbol |
| 00:57.14 | ginge | (but data works becuase we force it up) |
| 00:58.39 | ginge | okay, so what could cause that? |
| 00:59.14 | dcordes | no clue what you are doing there |
| 00:59.27 | marajin | bad encoding? unexpected notification form, etc? |
| 01:00.10 | ginge | it works for premy. |
| 01:00.22 | ginge | we should try and get a hold of premys image too |
| 01:00.41 | ginge | or a diff |
| 01:01.31 | marajin | data works on angstrom |
| 01:02.01 | marajin | ssh'd to perses from the kaiser from console |
| 01:02.05 | marajin | so it's something fucked in android |
| 01:02.57 | ginge | I could do with dcordes testing it. |
| 01:03.14 | dcordes | ginge: I was just about to open a bug on the ts_open problem when I found http://www.oesf.org/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t24960-50.html |
| 01:03.27 | dcordes | it looks like it's just a settings thing |
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| 01:04.04 | mara-kais | it definitely works |
| 01:04.13 | dcordes | you've got irssi on the bitch? |
| 01:04.27 | mara-kais | um yeah |
| 01:05.35 | marajin | so wtf is upsetting android me old maties? |
| 01:05.56 | marajin | .... I'm rather pleased at my kaiser sat with irssi running heh |
| 01:06.25 | dcordes | wait until I meet with mickey|zzZZzz and he makes the kaiser modem run in moko |
| 01:06.34 | dcordes | no android needed then |
| 01:08.51 | marajin | Oh dear, I seem to have lost the signal th... oh it reacquired nice |
| 01:09.02 | mara-kais | test? |
| 01:09.11 | dcordes | test |
| 01:09.11 | mara-kais | sweet =) |
| 01:09.12 | ginge | sweet |
| 01:09.16 | dcordes | sweeet |
| 01:09.17 | dcordes | ^^ |
| 01:09.50 | dcordes | is it common that you can't cp device nodes? |
| 01:10.01 | ginge | unless you are root, yes |
| 01:10.08 | mara-kais | I think so |
| 01:10.11 | ginge | even then |
| 01:11.31 | dcordes | my computer did odd things when I tried before |
| 01:11.36 | marajin | yeah |
| 01:11.43 | marajin | you're not meant to do it I rather think |
| 01:12.24 | ginge | it will try and open it as a char device and get stuck in an infinate read loop |
| 01:12.27 | ginge | cat when you cat it |
| 01:12.33 | marajin | man that is so sweet.. |
| 01:12.38 | ginge | :) |
| 01:12.47 | marajin | hmm, so ideas why console angstrom works and android go kakky death? |
| 01:13.00 | ginge | well... two theorys |
| 01:13.00 | dcordes | cause tis a blob |
| 01:13.05 | ginge | 1) its shit |
| 01:13.20 | marajin | ah but it /works/ for you guys, so why not on my kaiser. |
| 01:13.24 | marajin | clearly the kernel's ok |
| 01:13.33 | dcordes | no it doesn't work for me in android marajin |
| 01:13.36 | ginge | 2) the image I made is wrong and orange allows me on the net without proper apn |
| 01:13.42 | marajin | dcordes: what, data doesn't work? |
| 01:13.47 | dcordes | not for me |
| 01:13.50 | ginge | dcordes: even my image? |
| 01:13.50 | dcordes | only in angstrom |
| 01:13.50 | marajin | oh |
| 01:13.55 | marajin | heh |
| 01:13.56 | dcordes | didn't try |
| 01:14.10 | dcordes | I tried so many, I lost hope :(((( |
| 01:14.18 | marajin | we'll get there |
| 01:14.19 | ginge | last one, I promise :) |
| 01:14.29 | ginge | until I get ril working :) |
| 01:14.45 | ginge | I need to diff my touchscreen stuff. I am sort of waiting out how the tslib stuff gies |
| 01:15.02 | marajin | we oughta get X working I guess |
| 01:15.03 | dcordes | ginge: it should work by now. it is just the config thing |
| 01:15.13 | dcordes | ginge: did you look at the link? that guy had the same problem as me |
| 01:15.21 | ginge | yeah, it looked useful |
| 01:15.35 | dcordes | marajin: will you debug it through gprs ssh session when I make an X image? |
| 01:15.42 | dcordes | ginge: I'll upload the image |
| 01:15.58 | ginge | nice |
| 01:16.10 | marajin | dcordes: can try it sure |
| 01:16.14 | marajin | dcordes: Or ginge should be able to help too |
| 01:17.04 | marajin | dcordes: ...wait, why can't you do it, you said data works |
| 01:17.09 | ginge | marajin: don't think I can generate a generic image for key pairs in ssh |
| 01:17.11 | dcordes | I have no unlimited gprs |
| 01:17.25 | marajin | dcordes: That sucks :( |
| 01:17.30 | dcordes | I have to talk to my provider |
| 01:17.40 | marajin | dcordes: Who is your provider? |
| 01:17.50 | dcordes | I already called there but the callcenter person and me had some communication difficulties |
| 01:17.56 | marajin | dcordes: We can monkey with it, I wonder if my IP is open |
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| 01:18.59 | ginge | I doubt you would get a real ip |
| 01:19.10 | marajin | some providers give real ones I heard |
| 01:19.11 | marajin | but yeah |
| 01:19.15 | ginge | I think we would run out of ipv4 addresses with the about of phones |
| 01:19.29 | ginge | s/sbout/amount/ |
| 01:19.31 | marajin | haha, well yeah it's given me a 10.x.x.x address so |
| 01:19.38 | marajin | will have to tunnel out |
| 01:19.53 | dcordes | I get such an IP on "wap" connections here |
| 01:20.07 | dcordes | there is two apns I can chose, web.vodafone.de and wap.vodafone.de |
| 01:20.48 | dcordes | wap is very routed and limited, only giving me access to selected provider specific services, email and so |
| 01:21.03 | dcordes | web is a normal type of a ip |
| 01:21.49 | marajin | dcordes: Every provider gives those |
| 01:22.13 | marajin | o2 here has wap and mobileweb |
| 01:22.40 | dcordes | marajin: you get a 10.* IP for both of them? |
| 01:22.55 | marajin | dunno, never ue wap., just know it exists |
| 01:24.10 | ginge | for reverse tunnel I guess it would be a case of specifying an ip to a script that sets up something like "ssh -f -R 2222:localhost:22 you@someserver.com" |
| 01:24.25 | ginge | then you just ssh to someserver.com to get the remote device |
| 01:24.25 | marajin | yeah |
| 01:24.39 | marajin | no worries I have a static ip and a 24/7 server |
| 01:25.00 | dcordes | have to try that |
| 01:25.09 | dcordes | maybe I can even ssh out of the free wap connection |
| 01:25.25 | ginge | ssh out on port 2222 |
| 01:25.25 | marajin | er... unlikely dcordes |
| 01:25.59 | dcordes | can't I tunnel through 80? |
| 01:26.13 | dcordes | I wonder if it's just the ports being regulated or also the data |
| 01:26.20 | ginge | I doubt it. you can try though |
| 01:26.25 | ginge | just change 2222 to 80 |
| 01:26.29 | dcordes | maybe it checks if there's real http data going on in 80 |
| 01:26.44 | ginge | I would imagine a proxy of some kind |
| 01:27.57 | ginge | you probably also need to mess with the sshd config files to allow port gateways or whatever it is called... marajin? |
| 01:29.02 | marajin | http://souptonuts.sourceforge.net/sshtips.htm |
| 01:29.09 | marajin | has all the tunneling info |
| 01:29.12 | ginge | I was close... gatewayports wait, I tink there is a switch for that now |
| 01:29.36 | ginge | not bad |
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| 01:30.16 | ginge | -g by the looks of it. so, something like ssh -f -R -g 80:local etc |
| 01:30.22 | CPress | Hello Everybody |
| 01:30.32 | ginge | hello CPress |
| 01:30.45 | CPress | Hows the progress going for Android stuff? |
| 01:30.56 | ginge | goodnight all. dcordes let me know if that android works ;) |
| 01:31.23 | CPress | Night ginge |
| 01:31.35 | marajin | CPress: somewhat shakey for me, android hates me but I have GPRS under console linux |
| 01:31.42 | marajin | I even joined the IRC channel for a bit via it |
| 01:31.44 | CPress | Not bad. |
| 01:32.03 | CPress | You guys are making amazing progress, keep up the good work! |
| 01:32.20 | marajin | ginge has GPRS under android too I think |
| 01:32.34 | marajin | but it seems rather a unique case |
| 01:32.40 | CPress | I see. |
| 01:32.43 | dcordes | ug somehow the smd device nodes disappeared after using angstrom's normal init |
| 01:32.58 | marajin | dcordes: yay -.- |
| 01:33.18 | dcordes | but there are plenty others |
| 01:33.23 | CPress | Do you guys have a project outline actually figured out, or are you guys just doing task by task? |
| 01:33.24 | dcordes | it looks more like it should |
| 01:33.39 | dcordes | we have to gain revenue |
| 01:34.22 | marajin | CPress: We're just kinda bouncing around from task to task. but with GPS, GPRS, GSM, SMS recieving, Touchscreen, Display and keyboard/hardkeys working... |
| 01:34.24 | CPress | Why dont you guys setup a webiste for this, atleast a front linking to important threads on xda |
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| 01:34.30 | dcordes | CPress: everybody does what they're up to |
| 01:34.38 | CPress | I see. |
| 01:34.52 | marajin | CPress: dcordes already hassome basic info about the status of things and what needs doing in his readme.txt on his site |
| 01:35.08 | dcordes | CPress: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/README.txt |
| 01:35.10 | CPress | yeah, i have been somewhat following |
| 01:35.21 | CPress | Yep, I have seen that. |
| 01:35.39 | CPress | I got Android on my phone using the tips from the xda froum |
| 01:35.42 | CPress | forum* |
| 01:36.30 | marajin | dcordes: So, if we get the tunneling up you want I should give you access to monkey around with it? |
| 01:36.53 | dcordes | I'd like to look at an X image |
| 01:37.04 | dcordes | but the build is not finished yet |
| 01:37.07 | marajin | 'sok |
| 01:37.25 | marajin | how long do the builds take normally? |
| 01:37.53 | dcordes | depends on what you stuff in them |
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| 01:38.35 | marajin | hmm, will the kaiser draw power from the charger while in linux? |
| 01:38.53 | dcordes | and of course on your build machine and connection speed. it's entirely build from sources. like gentoo |
| 01:39.14 | dcordes | marajin: I think when you are loading in wince, it will continue loading in linux |
| 01:40.14 | dcordes | but if that's the case I doubt it will stop loading when it's full |
| 01:40.29 | dcordes | and LiIo batteries don't like that usually ^^ |
| 01:40.40 | marajin | no they don't :P |
| 01:41.01 | marajin | dcordes: Hmm, yeah what i your build machine? |
| 01:41.14 | dcordes | model name: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E6750 @ 2.66GHz |
| 01:41.29 | marajin | Not too shoddy then |
| 01:41.49 | marajin | funny really, seems to nearly take you longer to compile angstrom images than I can emerge -ue world sometimes :P |
| 01:44.25 | CPress | What's the http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/android-data.bin ? |
| 01:46.15 | marajin | CPress: IT's supposed to be android that can use GPRS but it thusfar only works for ginge, not for me or dcordes |
| 01:46.37 | dcordes | I will add the device nodes to the ppp.sh in order to make the builds more portable |
| 01:46.54 | marajin | dcordes Fair enough |
| 01:47.13 | CPress | Is it suppose to just work, or is there tweaking involved? |
| 01:47.41 | CPress | and should the phone be in a 3g area? |
| 01:48.19 | marajin | CPress: No, GPRS should suffice |
| 01:48.34 | marajin | CPress: It should just work on its own. |
| 01:49.16 | CPress | hmm. Maybe I will try it, just to see. |
| 01:49.21 | CPress | What radio is he running? |
| 01:49.28 | marajin | some stock orange UK one |
| 01:49.46 | CPress | is he in the UK, is that where you guys are |
| 01:50.19 | marajin | ginge and me are from he UK, dcordes is... I think german or somewhere there abouts |
| 01:50.34 | CPress | Nobody from the USA? |
| 01:50.55 | marajin | Not at the moment nope |
| 01:51.03 | CPress | That saddens me. |
| 01:51.13 | dcordes | marajin: /dev/ppp is also a character device just like the smds right? |
| 01:51.21 | dcordes | right, that's germany |
| 01:51.28 | marajin | I believe so |
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| 01:54.01 | marajin | dcordes_: whoops? |
| 01:54.22 | dcordes_ | marajin: I have no static ip |
| 01:54.29 | CPress | Well, if you guys need any done from the USA, let me know. |
| 01:54.48 | CPress | I am very interested in ditching WM |
| 01:54.58 | marajin | CPress: Well you'r welcome to test and get involved but I'm afraid it's kinda a matter of hitting the ground running at the moment |
| 01:55.51 | CPress | Is there a way to SSH into android on the phone? |
| 01:56.40 | marajin | CPress: Technically you can telnet into it but we need to get wifi/usbnet/something working firs |
| 01:57.21 | CPress | So, how are you working on it then? |
| 01:57.39 | marajin | editing the initrd and compiling new zImages on desktop/laptops and transfering them to the device and booting and rebooting many many times |
| 01:58.43 | CPress | Seems like quite the challance. |
| 01:58.59 | dcordes_ | waiting for dzo to come up with mmc code here is my high priority idle task :D |
| 01:59.03 | CPress | Are you guys using the Android SDK to work on this? |
| 01:59.08 | dcordes_ | no |
| 01:59.12 | marajin | It's always the same with getting new devices onto linux/etc. |
| 01:59.58 | CPress | Interesting. |
| 02:00.10 | marajin | many things have to be fixed before you can start to play with the device directly. The next thing we're going to work on is we're going to make the device connect over GPRS to talk to a linux server then we can access it remotely and debug easier |
| 02:00.15 | dcordes_ | marajin: could you help me preventing X from starting automatically if I send you the image? |
| 02:00.27 | marajin | dcordes_: I can try |
| 02:00.46 | dcordes_ | I put the /usr/bin/ppp.sh and added all the device nodes and permission stuff there found in the other images |
| 02:01.39 | marajin | okie |
| 02:02.58 | dcordes_ | uploading |
| 02:03.12 | dcordes_ | maybe it will just work |
| 02:03.28 | dcordes_ | I didn't try too many angstrom X images |
| 02:03.43 | marajin | haha |
| 02:03.43 | marajin | maybe |
| 02:03.49 | marajin | but dcordes_... |
| 02:03.54 | marajin | don't turn into an optimist yet ;) |
| 02:04.25 | dcordes_ | ok will try avoiding it |
| 02:04.32 | marajin | good man :) |
| 02:04.49 | dcordes_ | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/gpe.bin |
| 02:04.56 | dcordes_ | it's the usual .cpio.gz |
| 02:05.01 | marajin | aye |
| 02:05.44 | dcordes_ | there should be an initscript for X called gpe-dm |
| 02:05.49 | dcordes_ | like gdm |
| 02:05.51 | marajin | mm, why's it so small |
| 02:06.04 | CPress | Have you guys seen this: http://www.anddev.org/first_android_hardware_development_board_available-t981.html |
| 02:06.20 | dcordes_ | no clue |
| 02:06.52 | dcordes_ | kaiser is our evaluation board ^^ |
| 02:07.03 | marajin | yeah, we don't need to buy more things |
| 02:07.22 | dcordes_ | CPress: that's some PXA 270. not interesting for msm people |
| 02:07.49 | CPress | msm=? |
| 02:07.55 | dcordes_ | chip in kaiser |
| 02:08.01 | dcordes_ | qualcomm msm7200 |
| 02:08.04 | CPress | I see.. |
| 02:08.45 | CPress | HTC not releasing anything? I thought they are part of the alliance. |
| 02:09.12 | dcordes_ | they are google's business partners |
| 02:09.20 | dcordes_ | google has the cpu documents |
| 02:09.22 | marajin | dcordes_: ...I have a visible console |
| 02:09.25 | marajin | dcordes_: I think |
| 02:09.49 | marajin | dcordes_: yep, I have a console login prompt for angstrom with the gpe image |
| 02:10.03 | dcordes_ | that's because of the normal init |
| 02:10.13 | dcordes_ | should also give you ctrl+c |
| 02:10.32 | dcordes_ | not gpe image specific thing. it's also when you boot the old image with init=/sbin/init.bla |
| 02:10.49 | dcordes_ | try logging in and /etc/init.d/gpe-dm start |
| 02:10.53 | dcordes_ | root blank |
| 02:11.09 | marajin | yeah I got root blank already I was about to check gprs/ppp.sh |
| 02:11.17 | dcordes_ | does it work? |
| 02:11.31 | dcordes_ | also booting now |
| 02:11.57 | marajin | I get a mknod error you must have typoed something in the script |
| 02:12.19 | marajin | pppd not found |
| 02:12.25 | dcordes_ | oh |
| 02:12.40 | dcordes_ | so it's not quite good with sbin/init |
| 02:12.52 | dcordes_ | $PATH is fubar |
| 02:13.22 | CPress | Alright, logging out. Good luck and great job. Night all. |
| 02:13.24 | dcordes_ | I get mad unhandled fault: external abort on lineftech blabla errors that make the poor kaiser die |
| 02:13.34 | dcordes_ | cy CPress |
| 02:13.40 | marajin | yeah |
| 02:13.42 | marajin | I get the same |
| 02:13.53 | dcordes_ | it's because of X failing |
| 02:14.04 | dcordes_ | I believe |
| 02:14.26 | dcordes_ | did you see what mknod error it gave? |
| 02:14.27 | marajin | My kaiser didn't die though |
| 02:15.40 | marajin | it was just a syntax prompt |
| 02:15.49 | marajin | telling you what parameters are expected |
| 02:16.37 | marajin | where is ppp.sh? |
| 02:16.52 | marajin | oh /usr/bin/ |
| 02:16.53 | marajin | ok |
| 02:17.34 | marajin | my guess is it's the /dev/ppp line |
| 02:17.52 | dcordes_ | could you run it manually? I'm in wince now |
| 02:18.21 | marajin | hmm no it's creating /dev/ppp |
| 02:18.22 | marajin | how odd |
| 02:19.09 | dcordes_ | probably it's the chmod 0777 /var/lock ? |
| 02:19.22 | marajin | no it was a mknod error |
| 02:19.52 | dcordes_ | did it create the /dev/smd?s correctly? |
| 02:20.24 | marajin | 0, 1 and 7 |
| 02:20.34 | dcordes_ | ok cool so the script should work |
| 02:21.14 | marajin | yes it seems just pppd is missing |
| 02:21.50 | dcordes_ | hm yea it's not in the rootfs |
| 02:22.06 | dcordes_ | I will create a different image |
| 02:22.58 | marajin | ye |
| 02:23.20 | dcordes_ | we could go for an openmoko-image |
| 02:23.44 | marajin | heh. 88MB free, most memory a kaiser has ever had free think |
| 02:23.58 | marajin | dcordes_: We could but I thought that openmoko won't boot? |
| 02:24.24 | miknix | dcordes_, does GPE need matchbox or does it have its own window manager? |
| 02:25.11 | marajin | miknix: I don't think you mean window manager ther |
| 02:25.29 | dcordes_ | miknix: it uses matchbox-wm |
| 02:25.56 | marajin | hmm |
| 02:26.00 | dcordes_ | miknix: gpe is so to say the matchbox desktop. can you suggest some image to debug X with? |
| 02:26.07 | marajin | maybe you did, heh |
| 02:26.18 | miknix | dcordes_, sure.. I have a bunch of them |
| 02:26.40 | miknix | dcordes_, do you use gentoo? I'm maintaining a gpe overlay |
| 02:26.52 | marajin | miknix: I have gentoo FWIW |
| 02:26.58 | dcordes_ | no sorry. ubuntu here |
| 02:27.13 | dcordes_ | I'm interested in debugging X mostly |
| 02:27.42 | marajin | which UIs rely on X anyway? |
| 02:27.48 | miknix | dcordes_, http://miknix.homelinux.com/linwizard/initrd-tslib-20071230.bz2 |
| 02:28.25 | dcordes_ | thanks will try that |
| 02:28.37 | miknix | that one has twm only |
| 02:28.49 | dcordes_ | what cmdline "init= .. do we have to put? |
| 02:29.03 | miknix | I have a symlink |
| 02:29.09 | dcordes_ | to /init ? |
| 02:29.18 | miknix | to the default |
| 02:29.28 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.50 | miknix | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.52 | miknix | that |
| 02:29.54 | dcordes_ | ok cool |
| 02:30.03 | dcordes_ | downloading |
| 02:31.51 | dcordes_ | miknix: does it have pppd? |
| 02:31.57 | miknix | no.. sorry |
| 02:32.12 | miknix | hum.. do you have usb ether working' |
| 02:32.12 | ewon | so Reiser is guilty |
| 02:32.13 | miknix | ? |
| 02:32.15 | ewon | he's apparently led the police to his wife's body |
| 02:32.41 | dcordes_ | miknix: nada. we only can use gprs |
| 02:32.52 | marajin | oh... my |
| 02:33.16 | miknix | dcordes_, cause I have a cool nfs root where you can install binaries packages |
| 02:33.27 | miknix | I think we have pppd built |
| 02:34.17 | miknix | dcordes_, here: http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/ |
| 02:34.25 | miknix | a bunch of built packages |
| 02:34.54 | miknix | gizard-20080602.tar.bz2 is the latest root with working GPE |
| 02:36.21 | miknix | yep. pppd is there: http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/embedded/linwizard/net-dialup/ppp-2.4.4-r15.tbz2 |
| 02:36.31 | miknix | you can extract it to the initrd and it will work |
| 02:36.34 | dcordes_ | miknix: we have no storage and need to run everything as initrd |
| 02:39.53 | marajin | ewon: Where does it say he led the police to the body? |
| 02:41.56 | dcordes_ | he's probably going to |
| 02:42.42 | dcordes_ | he should have admitted it earlier if he really did it so he would have got 11 years only |
| 02:43.41 | marajin | it's still a good file system tho' |
| 02:43.53 | miknix | I tried reiser4 before this whole mess came out |
| 02:45.10 | miknix | I liked it, and I still would be using it if people didn't drop support for it |
| 02:45.15 | dcordes_ | miknix: how are hardware drivers going on wizard? |
| 02:45.36 | miknix | I was away for almost a month |
| 02:48.05 | miknix | but I believe they are working on GSM |
| 02:50.13 | miknix | I'll be back into action in the next week |
| 02:54.22 | dcordes_ | good * all |
| 02:54.36 | marajin | hmm |
| 03:01.42 | marajin | dcordes_: I think I'm going to set up a shared user account for us to build images if needed and use while working through the tunneling thing. |
| 03:03.39 | dcordes_ | too much coffee anyway |
| 03:03.51 | dcordes_ | that sounds quite useful. I can setup OE if you like |
| 03:04.11 | miknix | dcordes_, have you tried running OE? |
| 03:04.37 | dcordes_ | miknix: I'm bitbaking an image right now |
| 03:05.08 | miknix | ok.. I would like to have your opinion about its usability then |
| 03:05.21 | marajin | dcordes_: If you like I was just downloading stuff myself but mtn shit itself about the oe.mtn file being too old |
| 03:05.22 | miknix | looking at some pictures it looks nice |
| 03:05.44 | dcordes_ | I like it and have no problems with the usability. I can't compare to gentoo though, because I did never use a gentoo machine in my life before |
| 03:05.49 | dcordes_ | if that's your point :) |
| 03:06.11 | miknix | ? |
| 03:06.20 | miknix | oh |
| 03:06.22 | miknix | my fault |
| 03:06.28 | miknix | s/OE/openmoko/ |
| 03:07.07 | dcordes_ | nowadays you can't just speak of openmoko's usability. there are like 3 different GUIs now |
| 03:07.25 | miknix | btw: our gentoo gpe overlay is based on OE |
| 03:07.54 | miknix | if you like OE, you will certainly like gentoo since OE uses a trimmed version of portage |
| 03:08.00 | marajin | dcordes_: hehe, ya know rmoravcik ? he hates openmoko for doing that |
| 03:10.49 | dcordes_ | I have seen this nick |
| 03:11.21 | dcordes_ | miknix: I like the new e and python based GUI approach in openmoko a lot |
| 03:11.31 | marajin | he got one of their original dev kits I think |
| 03:12.07 | miknix | hum.. python is nice. but wouldn't it be too slow? |
| 03:12.35 | marajin | hmm maybe forsome stuff |
| 03:13.07 | miknix | I tried running portage on my wizard and it was slow |
| 03:13.23 | miknix | emerge --info toke more than 40 sec |
| 03:13.49 | marajin | portage can be slow on a quad xeon miknix |
| 03:13.55 | dcordes_ | the python/e based mooko gui is fast |
| 03:14.20 | miknix | I've got to try it then |
| 03:14.23 | miknix | I love python |
| 03:14.30 | marajin | 8-9 seconds for emerge --info on perses |
| 03:17.35 | miknix | wow |
| 03:17.48 | dcordes_ | can it emerge coffee? |
| 03:18.32 | marajin | I can emerge t-coffee :p |
| 03:18.44 | miknix | I would like beer more than coffee right now |
| 03:19.02 | marajin | miknix: I would like caffeinated alcohol with a nicotine lacing |
| 03:19.17 | miknix | damn .. I got scared when I saw a "Checking DLL ../unxlngx6.pro/lib/check_libsw680lx.so ...: ok" line crossing on the console |
| 03:19.30 | marajin | heh :P |
| 03:19.35 | miknix | it looked like it was installing mono or something |
| 03:19.40 | marajin | "DLLs? Noooooooooooooooooooooooo" |
| 03:23.04 | miknix | :) |
| 03:23.06 | miknix | :( |
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| 04:28.40 | marajin | Uhoh! it's the sys op! |
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| 05:02.55 | marajin | Morning AstainZZZZZZ |
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| 06:32.56 | marajin | 'lo rmoravcik |
| 06:33.56 | rmoravcik | marajin: hi! |
| 06:34.38 | marajin | rmoravcik: So people have been asking why you have not made an RX3715 build in over a year |
| 06:35.09 | rmoravcik | marajin: huh, that's a good question |
| 06:37.13 | rmoravcik | marajin: I was planning do that few months ago, but I didn't have free time |
| 06:37.50 | marajin | rmoravcik: Well whenever you get around to it, then I can say to people "Look on the site and bow before the awesomeness that is rmoravcik " |
| 06:40.01 | rmoravcik | marajin: i need to quit my job and go to another university to have more free time :-) |
| 06:40.19 | marajin | rmoravcik: You could just hire a thug to extort your boss. |
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| 07:37.10 | marajin | Morning Marex |
| 07:37.24 | Marex | hi |
| 07:37.35 | marajin | how's it going? |
| 07:38.45 | Marex | I feel like waking up from cryosleep |
| 07:38.54 | Marex | like if I was frozen for 10 years |
| 07:39.00 | marajin | That's because you ARE, it's the year 2019 |
| 07:39.08 | Marex | sleeping 14 hours feels so good |
| 07:39.27 | Marex | yea, that'd explain why I got so many mails from LAKML and alsa-ml |
| 07:39.33 | marajin | Palm mysteriously grew into a giant monster and pounded microsoft on the head and took over the world see |
| 07:39.49 | marajin | They'll be along in a moment to have you tattoo'd with the palm logo |
| 07:40.11 | Marex | :) |
| 07:40.23 | ginge_ | morning |
| 07:40.28 | marajin | ginge_: Morning man =) |
| 07:40.29 | Marex | morning |
| 07:41.13 | ginge_ | did you guys get your data going? |
| 07:41.42 | marajin | under android? we haven't even tried |
| 07:42.11 | marajin | we set up a shared account on my server though for compiling images where needed and where we're gonna land the tunneling |
| 07:44.41 | ginge_ | nice |
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| 07:45.31 | okias | Hello, anyone have any idea how get from HTC Kaiser IP? |
| 07:46.09 | Marex | no |
| 07:46.24 | marajin | okias: for what, the wifi? |
| 07:46.39 | okias | marajin: no usb connection |
| 07:47.10 | Marex | okias: haret has 192.168.1.201 or something |
| 07:47.19 | marajin | yeah haret will know |
| 07:47.22 | Marex | or 192.168.131.201 ? |
| 07:47.36 | okias | great :-) i going to test it :-) |
| 07:47.41 | marajin | it varies, DHCP servered by windows/whatever |
| 07:48.03 | okias | marajin: and when i setting connection over ifconfig eth1 ? |
| 07:48.22 | okias | marajin: i must run dhcp server on my pc? |
| 07:48.33 | marajin | why would you, wedon't have working usbnet on the kaiser yet? |
| 07:48.42 | marajin | oh wait, linux pc, windowsmobileon kaiser? |
| 07:48.55 | okias | marajin: yes :-) |
| 07:49.54 | marajin | No idea, I don't cnnect directly to linux =) |
| 07:50.46 | Marex | okias: if you connect over haret, see above |
| 07:50.51 | okias | marajin: moment: i talking about connection Kaiser (WM6 - HaRET) == Linux (Debian) |
| 07:52.59 | okias | moment, going to reboot |
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| 08:01.28 | Marex | marajin: you should have just returned 0 on his comparison ;) |
| 08:08.28 | marajin | hah :p |
| 08:08.37 | marajin | evalutes to FALSE |
| 08:11.50 | Marex | marajin: that's so damned C++ish ;) |
| 08:12.08 | kiozen | no, that would be "false" |
| 08:12.17 | kiozen | it's more like C |
| 08:12.29 | Marex | C doesnt have bool at all |
| 08:12.43 | kiozen | that is why you have to define it as FALSE :) |
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| 08:12.47 | Marex | it's more like pascal then |
| 08:12.54 | kiozen | yuck :P |
| 08:12.59 | Marex | :D |
| 08:13.00 | BabelO_ | hi |
| 08:13.09 | Marex | BabelO_: hi |
| 08:13.14 | kiozen | the most useless class I ever visited |
| 08:13.18 | kiozen | hi BabelO_ |
| 08:13.18 | Marex | kiozen: well that's not case sensitive ;) |
| 08:13.28 | Marex | kiozen: yup |
| 08:13.31 | BabelO_ | Marex: Where pascal ? :) |
| 08:13.44 | kiozen | BabelO_: at university |
| 08:14.26 | BabelO_ | kiozen: here it is at work :) |
| 08:14.48 | kiozen | wonders what people are willing to take for money |
| 08:14.52 | kiozen | :)) |
| 08:16.19 | marajin | For money, I will take solid gold, beer, pizza or sexual favours! |
| 08:16.54 | marajin | Marex: That'd be False |
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| 08:30.44 | marajin | ginge_: Well it looks like dcordes 'nap' is going to be rather longer than a mere nap |
| 08:31.16 | ginge_ | oh well. He will be back. |
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| 09:13.03 | ginge_ | marajin: pointercal in android http://groups.google.com/group/android-internals/browse_thread/thread/25a8ccefeb362fd1 |
| 09:13.26 | marajin | cool |
| 09:13.31 | marajin | though at the moment... eh :P |
| 09:13.42 | marajin | android just will not do data/calls for me |
| 09:15.10 | ginge_ | still not sure why you don't get data |
| 09:15.15 | ginge_ | or calls |
| 09:16.14 | marajin | me either but I'm not concerned about it currently |
| 09:16.32 | marajin | hmm so touchscreen is definitely a glitchin android we're saying? |
| 09:17.49 | ginge_ | touchscreen is a glitch in everything |
| 09:18.13 | ginge_ | the toucscren driver reports some odd output that has to be corrected in the most bizarre way |
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| 11:52.24 | marajin | I will DESTROY you! >.< |
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| 11:54.44 | marajin | Can't we do something about that? |
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| 11:55.27 | marajin | paulproteus: stop it damn ye, stop it! |
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| 12:03.01 | Alex[sp3dev] | hey, guys. i`m migrating from hh-org to mainline. do i need any patches to build a vanilla for arm? or the archive from kernel.org will go? |
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| 12:07.00 | marajin | Alex[sp3dev]: As far as I know you'll be able to build |
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| 12:08.19 | Alex[sp3dev] | sounds nice.. working with new kernel will be nice, and i wont need to backport drivers or write my own |
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| 12:12.54 | premy | ginge_: hi there. |
| 12:13.33 | ginge_ | premy: lo |
| 12:13.39 | zoolooc | heya |
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| 12:14.48 | premy | ginge_: I saw last night's logs. Looks as though we're still having problems with GPRS, calls and sms ? |
| 12:15.06 | ginge_ | premy: sort of |
| 12:15.23 | ginge_ | premy: I almost everything working, but no-one can seem to reproduce that |
| 12:15.47 | ginge_ | I tried the google ril too, and that won't allow calls, the only thing that works there is the signal strength |
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| 12:16.48 | zoolooc | ginge_, premy: talking about the kaiser port? |
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| 12:17.03 | premy | ginge_: strange. I'm pretty sure I had everything working here with google's libreference-ril.so |
| 12:17.07 | ginge_ | Zoolooc: yeah |
| 12:17.25 | ginge_ | certainly is a mystery |
| 12:17.59 | ginge_ | I can only assume something isn't woring as it should be in the kaiser kernel |
| 12:20.23 | premy | ginge_: I'm going to try with a clean build and let you know how it turns out. |
| 12:20.46 | ginge_ | ok. I am working on a build of android based on angstrom |
| 12:21.13 | ginge_ | premy: we are also getting lockups in android with sustained data transfer. |
| 12:21.30 | premy | ginge_: by the way, you saw dzo's rild code. Does it use the carriers sqlite table, by any chance ? |
| 12:21.54 | premy | ginge_: can you reproduce the lockups ? What are the conditions ? |
| 12:22.52 | ginge_ | loading maps app and scrolling more than a few tiles makes it lock |
| 12:23.01 | ginge_ | or load the broswer and crank upslashdot |
| 12:23.26 | ginge_ | loads about 80% of the page and then locks android solid. Kernel is still running, and ppp is still up |
| 12:24.16 | ginge_ | premy, not that I could see. I will forward it over to you |
| 12:25.28 | dcordes | premy: concerning sqlite, there is a person in the forum who is working with databases inside the android rootfs http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782&page=60 |
| 12:25.44 | dcordes | he does the same as ginge_ I guess |
| 12:25.51 | dcordes | OK this one applies cleanly, and I see that support for setting APN, USERNAME and PASSWORD from CMDLINE in default.txt is added to a setupmodem.sh (through ppp.apn=<AccessPoint Name> ppp.username=<Username> and ppp.password=<Password> variables). |
| 12:27.00 | ginge_ | not seeing that in the patch |
| 12:27.40 | dcordes | he patches the android-data.bin |
| 12:27.47 | dcordes | which already has your ppp.sh |
| 12:27.59 | ginge_ | yeah, but http://matsuu.org/android/android-data-matsuu.patch doesnt use the ppp.apn convention I invented |
| 12:29.50 | ginge_ | android-data has ppp.sh in it? |
| 12:30.01 | premy | ginge_: isn't rild in charge of restarting the GPRS connexion if it goes down ? |
| 12:30.16 | ginge_ | premy: it should do |
| 12:31.01 | premy | ginge_: then I guess it must use the data in the sqlite table. That would probably be a cleaner way to do things. |
| 12:31.02 | ginge_ | the dzo one doesn't tho |
| 12:32.27 | premy | ginge_: I'm also wondering if it wouldn't be better to have something that would be able to handle both GPRS and CDMA, merging dzo's init code and ours. |
| 12:32.46 | ginge_ | probably a good idea. |
| 12:33.29 | premy | ginge_: otherwise we're going to get a lot of feedback from CDMA users (not sure if there are that many, though). |
| 12:33.33 | dcordes | premy: here is the sqlite provider db thing mentioned http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2379514&postcount=587 |
| 12:34.15 | dcordes | premy: http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/ppp.notsh here's the setupmodem.sh found in android-data.bin |
| 12:34.56 | dcordes | s/setupmodem/ppp script/ |
| 12:35.27 | dcordes | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/setupmodem.notsh |
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| 12:36.19 | ginge_ | dcordes: I am a little confused at how this works now. Did you put the ppp.sh into the android image? |
| 12:37.39 | dcordes | yes |
| 12:37.53 | dcordes | no |
| 12:37.58 | ginge_ | oh. what? |
| 12:38.00 | dcordes | ppp is in the angstrom image stupid me |
| 12:38.35 | ginge_ | riiight. So the forum guy is just patching against my dumb script. I think I get it now |
| 12:38.50 | ginge_ | in that case, looking at the patch, it seems like it should work for all you guys |
| 12:40.42 | ginge_ | the only changes the other guy made are to use opendns servers and change the debug output |
| 12:40.43 | ginge_ | thats cool |
| 12:41.39 | ginge_ | maybe we should do the opendns too |
| 12:42.45 | ginge_ | actually, thats a pretty neat way of handling it |
| 12:42.54 | dcordes | premy: do you have any news about the mysterious fifos? |
| 12:43.10 | premy | ginge_: I'd be surprised that many mobile ops require their customers to use hardcoded public dns |
| 12:43.48 | ginge_ | premy: indeed.Nice fallback though |
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| 12:49.20 | premy | dcordes: nothing really. I think I understand most of the encoding but I don't know what subsystem it addresses. You mentioned adsp, but I haven't had the time to look into this. Any pointer ? |
| 12:52.18 | dcordes | I just thought it could be something sound related. but cr2 said adsp is only used for qtv, so not sure if its is relevant |
| 12:53.32 | premy | The fifos are definitely used to transfer ephemeris data to the GPS chip. |
| 12:55.02 | premy | They are also involved when playing sounds, maybe for some setup and close work. The actual sound data does not go through them, though. |
| 12:56.30 | premy | By the way, the memory map on the wiki can be updated with the latest information regarding the fifos and msm_proc_comm |
| 12:56.40 | premy | If that's ok with you, I'll do it some time. |
| 12:59.56 | ginge_ | dcordes: did you get the angstrom going with the tslib? |
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| 13:22.11 | dcordes | premy: I would welcome it. I can also put it now if you feed me with the info |
| 13:23.10 | dcordes | ginge_: http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom_2.bin |
| 13:23.53 | ginge_ | thanks |
| 13:24.13 | dcordes | I hope that's the one |
| 13:28.50 | dcordes | I found it useful to put |
| 13:28.52 | dcordes | mknod /dev/smd0 c 254 0 -m 0777 |
| 13:28.52 | dcordes | mknod /dev/smd1 c 254 1 -m 0777 |
| 13:28.52 | dcordes | mknod /dev/smd7 c 254 7 -m 0777 |
| 13:28.52 | dcordes | mknod /dev/ppp c 108 -m 0777 |
| 13:28.52 | dcordes | chmod 0777 /var/lock |
| 13:29.02 | dcordes | into the ppp.sh in order to make the script more portable |
| 13:33.33 | ginge_ | fair enough |
| 13:34.02 | ginge_ | you should probably check fro those nodes first |
| 13:35.02 | dcordes | before the reset of the script is ran? |
| 13:35.24 | ginge_ | something like: |
| 13:36.13 | ginge_ | if not test -b /dev/smd0; mknod ... ;fi |
| 13:37.36 | premy | ginge_: with google's libreference-ril.so, signal strength, incoming/outgoing calls, incoming/outgoing sms, maps and browser work fine here. |
| 13:37.52 | ginge_ | very odd |
| 13:38.17 | ginge_ | sms works, signal works, data works (becuase of the manual ppp) and nothing else |
| 13:38.22 | dcordes | premy: could you put the initrd you use somewhere so I can test? |
| 13:38.28 | ginge_ | I say data works... I still get lockups |
| 13:38.38 | premy | Android did reboot twice, though. And the maps app did lock once. |
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| 13:39.20 | ginge_ | hrm. Less than stable. |
| 13:39.30 | ginge_ | if there a newer amulator image we can tear apart? |
| 13:39.40 | ginge_ | s/amulator/emulator/ |
| 13:39.50 | premy | I was wondering whether the lock ups and reboots could be due to the GPRS connexion being lost and not re-initiated, because setupmodem.sh does not supervise it and restart it. |
| 13:40.02 | dcordes | I hear they will soon release a new sdk version with fancy stuff |
| 13:40.37 | ginge_ | premy: a possiblity. The angstrom image doesn't drop my link. |
| 13:40.41 | premy | ginge_: did you ever reproduce your lockups with wgets in an angstrom initrd ? |
| 13:40.55 | ginge_ | no, once I went back to git kernel it went away |
| 13:43.32 | dcordes | ginge_: does ts image work for you? |
| 13:44.27 | premy | dcordes: I'll email it to you. It doesn't have the fancy setupmodem script, though. So you'll have to update /etc/init1. But anyway, the only modifications are in the init scripts and init.ril. |
| 13:44.34 | ginge_ | dunno, the link to y build server is down |
| 13:47.13 | ginge_ | premy: what did you did in the init.ril? |
| 13:48.53 | premy | ginge_: replace libreference-ril.so with libreference-ril-original.so |
| 13:49.25 | ginge_ | premy: gotcha |
| 14:02.46 | premy | bbl |
| 14:02.50 | dcordes | ginge_: linuxtogo back up http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/angstrom-tslib.bin |
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| 14:03.22 | ginge_ | thanks. I will give it a go in a couple of hours |
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| 16:51.55 | ginge | dcordes: "yup, my EMONSTER failed to get nameserver so I had to set it manually" I will update the setupmodem script with tmatsuu's patch |
| 16:52.24 | ginge | dcordes: if the isp doesnt give you a dns, it will fall back to opendns |
| 16:53.34 | dcordes | useful I have to go. let me know if you are missing something in the ts image |
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| 18:41.15 | pH5 | borders to overkill for the puny ti bq24022 charger ic |
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| 20:55.01 | BabelO | kiozen_: you see my email so ? |
| 20:55.09 | BabelO | good stuff it seem |
| 20:57.33 | kiozen_ | hi BabelO |
| 20:57.44 | kiozen_ | yes nice gpx gadget |
| 20:58.06 | BabelO | kiozen_: i think it is something cr2 was looking for |
| 20:58.26 | kiozen_ | btw, do you have a working haret/cegcc combination you can send us? |
| 20:58.39 | kiozen_ | BabelO: he does not know yet :) |
| 20:58.49 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok :) |
| 20:59.01 | BabelO | kiozen_: yes i have |
| 20:59.17 | BabelO | kiozen_: what do you need ? |
| 20:59.36 | kiozen_ | I want to compile haret to make a linload.exe |
| 20:59.47 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok |
| 20:59.54 | kiozen_ | but latest cegcc and latest haret does not work |
| 21:00.01 | miknix | kiozen_, linload? |
| 21:00.10 | miknix | hi, btw |
| 21:00.14 | kiozen_ | or loadlin.exe what ever :) |
| 21:00.41 | BabelO | lopi use git haret ,with |
| 21:00.44 | BabelO | Thread model: win32 |
| 21:00.44 | BabelO | gcc version 4.1.0 |
| 21:00.48 | BabelO | for cegcc |
| 21:00.57 | kiozen_ | can you upload the cegcc toolkit somewhere? |
| 21:01.02 | BabelO | kiozen_: sure |
| 21:02.05 | BabelO | kiozen_: for haret, i use git.linuxtogo.org version |
| 21:02.25 | BabelO | kiozen_: with the diskdrive from kevin2 at linuxtogo too |
| 21:03.05 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok uploading toochain |
| 21:03.07 | kiozen_ | BabelO: hw want to recompile haret! |
| 21:03.22 | kiozen_ | s/hw/he/ |
| 21:03.48 | BabelO | kiozen_: you need the full night and many beer, lol |
| 21:04.17 | BabelO | kiozen_: i just receive my ICOM R2500, have to go to postal office tomorrow :) |
| 21:07.20 | BabelO | kiozen_: http://linuxbox2.free.fr/cegcc.tar.bz2 |
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| 21:08.27 | miknix | BabelO, how's artemis going? |
| 21:09.16 | BabelO | miknix: still same , missing gsm. suspend resume is not so far to work, but mmc drive broke my sdcard partition each time i resume |
| 21:09.38 | miknix | BabelO, I saw some pm patches on mvista |
| 21:09.45 | BabelO | miknix: other thing like bluetooth, gps are working well |
| 21:09.58 | BabelO | miknix: are they mmc related ? |
| 21:10.04 | miknix | think so |
| 21:10.07 | BabelO | miknix: i did not test with latest rc6 merge |
| 21:10.16 | miknix | lemmi search the mail client |
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| 21:10.59 | miknix | they are working on cpu idle |
| 21:11.09 | miknix | and changing the mmc stack |
| 21:11.16 | kiozen_ | BabelO: got it |
| 21:11.22 | BabelO | miknix: ok, NOHZ config work, but copu freq not, i hope they fix iot |
| 21:11.40 | BabelO | kiozen_: you need other thing ? like startup config for linload autoinstall ? :) |
| 21:11.53 | kiozen_ | don't know yet |
| 21:12.37 | miknix | BabelO, is your board already using the MMC multi-slot stack? |
| 21:14.21 | BabelO | miknix: hmm, not sufre about that |
| 21:14.36 | BabelO | miknix: how can i check ? |
| 21:14.50 | miknix | last time I tried to get into upstream, I had to make a lot of changes in mmc |
| 21:14.59 | miknix | even so mmc was not working |
| 21:15.03 | BabelO | miknix: i am able to switch the multiplex sdio for wifi card actually |
| 21:15.29 | miknix | http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-November/012257.html |
| 21:16.47 | BabelO | miknix: so it mean i have to check the rc6 :) |
| 21:20.15 | BabelO | miknix: is gsm working for you ? |
| 21:22.27 | miknix | I was away for some weeks |
| 21:22.33 | miknix | but yeah.. last time it was |
| 21:22.40 | BabelO | miknix: multi slot is ok for me |
| 21:22.42 | BabelO | it works |
| 21:22.46 | miknix | nice |
| 21:22.51 | miknix | the only problem is the sound |
| 21:23.08 | miknix | we have to boot linux with wm5 playing some sound |
| 21:23.16 | miknix | to leave the sound board initialized |
| 21:23.51 | BabelO | miknix: same on BA at the beginning, we had a modified haret on boot |
| 21:24.07 | BabelO | miknix: but you can play mp3 or only phone sound ? |
| 21:24.20 | miknix | phone |
| 21:24.45 | BabelO | miknix: ok, so it is not real sound, only a switch |
| 21:24.45 | miknix | I also added a sysfs interface to the GSM driver for selecting the audio path |
| 21:24.58 | miknix | phones, speaker... |
| 21:25.05 | miknix | but did test |
| 21:25.09 | miknix | *didnt |
| 21:25.50 | miknix | didnt look further for the audio device.. any idea? |
| 21:26.34 | BabelO | miknix: no :( i see the EAC driver, but there is no pcm support, and don't know if pcm come from EAC or from DSP itself |
| 21:27.32 | miknix | oh right.. I also looked at that one |
| 21:28.44 | BabelO | miknix: but before i want battery read, it is over syren spi, so i just need to clone my driver and change some part |
| 21:28.45 | miknix | but I'll be back into action at the start of next week |
| 21:29.13 | miknix | BabelO, I think we are already reading battery |
| 21:29.22 | miknix | through the touchscreen driver |
| 21:30.00 | miknix | not sure though.. that was added to the wiki while I was away |
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| 21:31.22 | BabelO | oh cr2 :) you found a wifi point and remote access X11 ? :) |
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| 21:31.50 | cr2 | BabelO: your cegcc is shit :) |
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| 21:32.11 | cr2 | yes, wifi ap is kiozen_ |
| 21:32.35 | kiozen_ | but he is much slower than me :) |
| 21:32.50 | kiozen_ | doing X over DSL is no good idea |
| 21:33.04 | miknix | : o |
| 21:33.09 | miknix | dont like screen? |
| 21:33.18 | BabelO | kiozen_: Free NX is better idea and faster :) |
| 21:33.41 | BabelO | cr2: my cegcc does not work ? |
| 21:36.21 | kiozen_ | BabelO: nope not working |
| 21:36.34 | BabelO | boh ? :( |
| 21:37.43 | BabelO | kiozen_: ok, wait |
| 21:38.11 | kiozen_ | BabelO: http://pastebin.no/11333 |
| 21:38.35 | kiozen_ | but fixed it by commenting the obnoxious stuff |
| 21:40.03 | BabelO | kiozen_: it was an old error with the bad toolchain :' |
| 21:43.55 | BabelO | kiozen_: pm != |
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