00:00.00 | dcordes | effbiai: could you make a dump mmu on niki? |
00:01.08 | effbiai | if you tell me how=) |
00:01.53 | dcordes | effbiai: ie get http://handhelds.org/~koconnor/haret/haretconsole-20071216.tar.gz extract it on your python enabled linux pc, then ./console <niki_ip>, then dump mmu |
00:02.25 | dcordes | make sure you set your wifi powerstate to performance (on kaiser it's a pita in battery mode) |
00:04.40 | marajin | dcordes: Works ok on mine in save mode but I usually set to performance anyway |
00:06.05 | dcordes | marajin: in haretconsole the commands don't quite arrive when I'm in save |
00:06.47 | effbiai | dcordes: htc touch dual doesnt have wifi |
00:07.05 | dcordes | ok |
00:07.10 | dcordes | use usbnet |
00:07.14 | effbiai | roger |
00:07.27 | effbiai | ie ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 ? |
00:07.36 | dcordes | no sé |
00:08.11 | effbiai | ..and i need to figure how to set an ip on the htc :x |
00:08.41 | dcordes | I've always been lazy to make usbnet work |
00:09.01 | dcordes | can't help you on that one |
00:09.10 | effbiai | i'll try to figure a way |
00:09.16 | dcordes | ok |
00:12.44 | effbiai | usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4 |
00:12.44 | effbiai | usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice |
00:12.44 | effbiai | ipaq 3-2:1.0: PocketPC PDA converter detected |
00:12.44 | effbiai | usb 3-2: PocketPC PDA converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
00:12.52 | effbiai | atleast i've got some signals :> |
00:13.12 | cr2 | dcordes: é <- different way |
00:13.20 | effbiai | strange it detects it as a ipaq |
00:13.26 | cr2 | ah. it's right :) |
00:13.47 | marajin | effbiai: well that's just them not renaming the driver stuff when it became generic |
00:14.00 | effbiai | ah |
00:16.44 | dcordes | cr2: what do you mean? |
00:17.26 | cr2 | é |
00:18.00 | dcordes | cr2: what about it? |
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00:18.59 | cr2 | i need it in the street name |
00:20.52 | dcordes | cr2: what street name? |
00:23.06 | cr2 | osm |
00:24.07 | cr2 | java sucks. can't copy and paste the é. good night. |
00:24.23 | dcordes | now I got it sorry |
00:24.30 | dcordes | è grave? |
00:25.17 | cr2 | yes |
00:25.28 | dcordes | on my keymap it is <shitf>+<´> <e> |
00:25.46 | cr2 | ok. |
00:26.01 | dcordes | on what java client are you? |
00:27.58 | effbiai | okay.. i got this when connecting the htc: |
00:28.00 | effbiai | Jul 6 02:26:27 Trude kernel: eth1: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:1d.1-2, RNDIS device, 80:00:60:0f:e8:00 |
00:28.08 | effbiai | therefore i did; ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 |
00:28.18 | effbiai | and got Jul 6 02:26:34 Trude avahi-daemon[1590]: Joining mDNS multicast group on interface eth1.IPv4 with address 192.168.0.200. |
00:28.20 | dcordes | rndis is what you want I guess |
00:28.35 | effbiai | still.. i can't figure a way to specify a ip on the htc |
00:29.34 | dcordes | I don't really know how that works. there is synce but I think you can also connect without it |
00:29.48 | dcordes | at least I know dzo uses usbnet on vogue w/o synce |
00:29.58 | effbiai | k |
00:30.17 | effbiai | rndis==Remote NDIS. rite? |
00:32.05 | effbiai | http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/ndis/rmndis.mspx |
00:32.07 | effbiai | gotcha! |
01:00.20 | effbiai | dcordes: okay.. i got connected to the htc via telnet and i also managed to dum mmu. tho that's ALOT of information. what are you searching for? |
01:03.19 | dcordes | effbiai: all conversation with console is logged in console dir |
01:03.21 | dcordes | haretlog* |
01:03.40 | dcordes | your mmu dump should be in there. can upload / email / paste? |
01:05.25 | effbiai | the problem is i couldn't get the usb net to work with the linux laptop. therefore i used a windows machine with putty telnet. |
01:05.37 | effbiai | i'll check if there's a log function in putty |
01:08.40 | effbiai | got it, jsut a sec |
01:09.39 | effbiai | http://tor.tendit.no/haret.log |
01:37.59 | marajin | effbiai: You killed dcordes, you bastard!!! :p |
01:38.16 | effbiai | hehe |
01:38.22 | effbiai | with a damn long logfile! :> |
01:39.04 | marajin | yep! |
04:33.49 | marajin | hmm |
04:35.21 | pronto | moo. |
04:38.00 | marajin | hey pronto |
04:43.45 | pronto | hey |
04:45.37 | marajin | hmm wow, my network shares seem to be loading noteably faster with this new rom, how odd |
04:45.51 | marajin | effbiai: Stil alive there? |
04:51.58 | marajin | ginge: Ping? |
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04:54.33 | CPress | Hello All. |
04:55.23 | pronto | hi CPress |
04:58.23 | CPress | What's new with you guys tonight? Anything exciting? |
04:58.57 | pronto | nope not really |
04:59.59 | marajin | I'm just trying to work out how to get the android globe to quit on my Kaiser, looks like the keymapping is borked |
05:00.21 | pronto | heh |
05:00.29 | pronto | i also has kaiser :) |
05:00.34 | pronto | i think O |
05:00.35 | pronto | oO |
05:00.40 | marajin | heh |
05:00.42 | marajin | you think? :P |
05:01.02 | pronto | the one that tilts? |
05:01.07 | marajin | that's the kaiser yep |
05:01.21 | pronto | indeed thats what i have |
05:01.28 | marajin | well theoretically it could be the shift but I doubt you have one of those :P |
05:01.28 | pronto | i also have some other one |
05:01.37 | pronto | its the um... hrm |
05:01.45 | pronto | wizard! |
05:01.53 | marajin | Oh, old school ;) |
05:02.08 | CPress | Yeah, Def. |
05:02.29 | pronto | the touch screen in my wizard stoped working in the middle |
05:02.30 | pronto | lol |
05:03.45 | marajin | sad isn't it? "old school" |
05:03.51 | marajin | it's like 3 years old max |
05:04.06 | marajin | even the kaiser is superceded now |
05:04.31 | marajin | and it's only some months old really |
05:04.41 | pronto | lol |
05:04.51 | marajin | It was only released er.. late 2007 I think |
05:05.06 | pronto | kaiser is my 3rd cell phone, lol |
05:05.27 | marajin | it's my 2nd PDA-phone, I have no idea what count it is on actual phones |
05:05.37 | pronto | heh |
05:05.45 | pronto | its my 3rd phone total |
05:06.26 | marajin | I've had ... hmm, some ancient sony thing, a ericsson brick... a nokia 3110, 3210, 8210, 3310, 6600, Samsung X820... |
05:06.31 | pronto | :o |
05:06.50 | marajin | then I got a HTC Hermes (TyTn) and then the Kaiser (TyTn 2) |
05:07.15 | pronto | i had the nextel i860 , wizard , and now the kaiser |
05:07.42 | marajin | meanwhile I've aaaalso had... two sony clies, a Palm Tungsten T3, a Palm LifeDrive and a hp RX3715 |
05:07.47 | pronto | wow |
05:07.48 | pronto | lol |
05:07.49 | marajin | actually technically I had 3 clies |
05:08.05 | pronto | heh |
05:08.08 | marajin | but one was just a replacement of same model when I smashed the screen on it |
05:08.29 | pronto | i have the toshiba gigabeat f20 runining rock box :P |
05:09.46 | marajin | Well, I've had.. an Archos Jukebox .. what's the old thing that rockbox supports?, followed by an AV380 (yay video recording and playback), an iRiver iHP-120 and an iPod Classic 80G |
05:09.54 | marajin | onlycounting harddrive players |
05:09.59 | marajin | the iRiver also ran rockbox |
05:10.02 | pronto | dude >.< |
05:10.08 | pronto | what the fuck |
05:10.13 | pronto | you have to much money :P |
05:10.19 | marajin | Life long geek |
05:10.36 | marajin | I swear, clothing and food are the only things I pay for besides geek toys :P |
05:11.08 | marajin | also that list is spread across a decade more or less |
05:11.15 | pronto | oh |
05:11.29 | marajin | well, maybe 8 yers |
05:11.31 | marajin | *years |
05:11.31 | marajin | heh |
05:11.36 | marajin | apart from the phones |
05:11.59 | pronto | heh |
05:12.13 | marajin | phones technically go back er...12+ years |
05:13.06 | marajin | As you can see I used to be a palm fan but got annoyed with them ~ 2005 |
05:13.23 | pronto | :P |
05:14.37 | marajin | I kinda ended up going "for gods sake update your system to something modern >.<" |
05:14.53 | marajin | not much RAM on those devices either |
05:14.57 | pronto | :P' |
05:15.07 | marajin | the lifedrive had 32MB total and you were only allowed to use 6.5MB of that |
05:15.22 | pronto | Oo |
05:15.24 | pronto | wtf |
05:15.29 | marajin | srsly |
05:15.41 | pronto | <PROTECTED> |
05:16.00 | marajin | Palm Tungsten Lifedrive.. it was a PDA with a 4GB drive inside it |
05:16.16 | pronto | :o my god 4gb! |
05:16.28 | pronto | while my minisd card is 4gb Oo |
05:16.32 | marajin | heh |
05:16.42 | marajin | yeah it had 4GB internal AND an SD card reader tho' |
05:16.49 | pronto | :o |
05:16.58 | pronto | now thats what im talking about |
05:17.06 | pronto | the kaiser has crap inside |
05:17.19 | marajin | I think some of the newer HTCs are going to have 4GB internal |
05:17.21 | pronto | at least you can get sd cards for mad cheap anymore |
05:17.27 | marajin | there's a PDA somewhere that has 20GB too |
05:17.31 | pronto | heh |
05:17.40 | marajin | no shit, I paid like 14 for a 4GB MicroSDHC card |
05:18.13 | pronto | :o |
05:18.38 | pronto | i paid $26 , but that includes $5 shipping |
05:18.44 | marajin | I want the Raphael |
05:18.49 | pronto | link? |
05:18.56 | marajin | (I'm english, that means 28 dollars but we're better paid) |
05:19.04 | marajin | http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1306 |
05:19.15 | pronto | :o *drool* |
05:19.24 | marajin | 288MB of RAM and a vga screen baby! |
05:19.41 | pronto | just needs a 1GHz proc now! |
05:19.43 | pronto | >.> |
05:19.49 | marajin | heh |
05:19.51 | marajin | it's 600 I think |
05:19.56 | marajin | or 52 |
05:19.57 | pronto | 528 |
05:19.59 | marajin | *528 |
05:20.00 | marajin | yeah |
05:20.08 | marajin | 528, what an arbitrary number |
05:20.08 | marajin | heh |
05:20.12 | pronto | :P |
05:20.23 | pronto | its most likely a 500mhz they OC'd to make look better :P |
05:20.30 | marajin | it has the A chipset tho' |
05:20.36 | pronto | Oo |
05:20.45 | pronto | Audio Output: Proprietary |
05:20.46 | marajin | pronto: Nah, all the devices with that chipset are 400 or 528 |
05:20.56 | marajin | pronto: Same extended USB as the kaiser |
05:21.00 | pronto | i fucking hate that |
05:21.03 | marajin | why? |
05:21.05 | pronto | i make my own converter though |
05:21.13 | marajin | It's annoying i you want to charge while using the headset |
05:21.18 | marajin | but otherwise it's ok |
05:21.23 | pronto | i like to use my headphones |
05:21.26 | pronto | my own |
05:21.34 | marajin | you didn't get the headphone adapter with your kaiser? |
05:21.41 | pronto | no? |
05:21.42 | marajin | Mine CAME with one that adapts to a 3.5mm plug |
05:21.45 | pronto | :| |
05:21.47 | pronto | wtf |
05:21.51 | pronto | the one i made kinda sucks |
05:21.52 | marajin | even has an inline controller |
05:22.18 | marajin | Microphone + call begin/end buttons + play/pause + volume |
05:22.37 | pronto | :| |
05:22.43 | pronto | the fuck i never got one |
05:22.54 | marajin | maybe the tilt doesn't come with it? |
05:22.58 | marajin | but mine just had it in the box |
05:23.04 | pronto | at&t are assholes |
05:23.10 | pronto | don't even get a front camera |
05:23.24 | marajin | well you can't video call anyway so why d'ya want afront camera? |
05:23.30 | pronto | ... to have one |
05:23.37 | marajin | heh |
05:23.40 | marajin | that you can't use ANYWAY? |
05:23.53 | marajin | except to take extremely bad video/photos of yourself? |
05:24.00 | marajin | or as a overly complex mirror |
05:24.03 | pronto | :) |
05:24.12 | pronto | the complex mirror |
05:24.18 | marajin | ... Actually yeah, I do that |
05:24.21 | pronto | using three mirrors so im not reversed |
05:24.27 | pronto | or what ever |
05:24.32 | marajin | huh? |
05:24.34 | pronto | >.> |
05:24.35 | pronto | <.< |
05:24.37 | pronto | potatoes! |
05:24.38 | marajin | Oh it auto mirrors |
05:24.40 | marajin | heh |
05:24.52 | pronto | i like that panorama feature on it |
05:24.54 | marajin | No it just does that on its own |
05:24.54 | pronto | pretty neat |
05:25.06 | marajin | you don't need to do anything to it to get the image not reversed |
05:25.14 | pronto | umm thats no fun :P |
05:25.59 | pronto | eh this is annoying i should be getting 20/5 mbit internet yet it only gets 15/2 |
05:26.14 | marajin | contention FTW :P |
05:26.30 | pronto | lol |
05:27.34 | marajin | didn't know you actually had internet that tolerable over there :P |
05:27.53 | pronto | lol |
05:27.58 | pronto | verizion FIOS |
05:28.26 | marajin | ah fios |
05:28.28 | marajin | woot |
05:28.36 | marajin | except we get ADSL2 as good as that here :P |
05:28.44 | pronto | :P |
05:29.28 | pronto | some other ISP here is providing 100mbit lines to aparment complixes |
05:29.47 | marajin | next year we get that to any residential |
05:29.56 | pronto | england? |
05:29.58 | marajin | only 50Mbit this year tho' |
05:29.59 | marajin | yeah |
05:30.04 | pronto | heh |
05:36.15 | marajin | TBH I only have 20/1.6 |
05:36.21 | marajin | but WFM |
05:36.27 | marajin | I get what it says on the tin |
05:36.28 | marajin | and it's cheap |
05:36.31 | marajin | and I even got a static IP |
05:36.50 | pronto | :o |
05:37.04 | pronto | brb, grabbing another mt.dew |
05:37.13 | marajin | mmmm caffeine |
05:37.18 | pronto | mmm |
05:37.22 | pronto | +m |
05:38.26 | marajin | By day, he's just a normal kid but at night... **psssht... glugglugglugglugglug.... Bing!** He's SuperGeek! Harnessing the awesome power of legal stimulants he can code with the strength of 10 men! |
05:40.10 | pronto | back |
05:41.10 | pronto | ( Uptime ) 4 days, 23 hours 22 minutes [ Record: 5d 4h 14m 40s ] | Users: 20 | Load: 0.16, 0.25, 0.42 |
05:41.15 | pronto | :O |
05:41.17 | pronto | 42! woo |
05:41.54 | *** join/#htc-linux the_sys0p (n=the_sys0@116.199.69.97) |
05:41.57 | pronto | waiiit |
05:42.02 | pronto | does that say 20 users |
05:42.06 | pronto | the hell >.< |
05:44.23 | marajin | heh |
05:44.34 | pronto | odd |
05:44.37 | pronto | they are all me |
05:44.45 | marajin | <PROTECTED> |
05:44.48 | marajin | ahem =) |
05:44.54 | pronto | lol |
05:45.07 | pronto | i boot into windows every so often for pc games |
05:45.24 | marajin | yeah I just have 3 computers |
05:45.32 | pronto | heh |
05:45.42 | pronto | so lemme guess thats your file server |
05:46.13 | pronto | (Mem):[964/2075M [||||||||||]] |
05:46.17 | pronto | :o |
05:46.22 | pronto | thats alot being used |
05:46.31 | marajin | yeah it is |
05:46.42 | pronto | oh firefox and amarok |
05:46.48 | marajin | 2TB and a quad xeon of doom! |
05:46.51 | pronto | lol |
05:46.51 | pronto | :P |
05:46.57 | marajin | the board'll slot two quad xeons actually |
05:47.18 | pronto | heh |
05:48.15 | pronto | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151089 get that |
05:48.28 | pronto | CPU Socket Type Quad 1207(F) |
05:48.29 | pronto | CPU TypeQuad AMD Opteron |
05:48.38 | pronto | :P |
05:49.03 | marajin | why would I want 4 quads? I don't use 2 quads |
05:49.10 | pronto | bragging rights? |
05:49.17 | marajin | my wallet is empty |
05:49.32 | marajin | Bragging rights come with cash |
05:49.33 | pronto | get like 10 of them for distributed computing :o |
05:49.37 | pronto | lolyeah |
05:49.43 | marajin | and a quad xeon + 2TB is braggable enough |
05:49.46 | pronto | :P |
05:49.53 | marajin | tho' I do want to get 6x1TB drives.. |
05:49.58 | pronto | heh |
05:50.06 | marajin | but I haven't got 2000 USD to blow ya know |
05:50.10 | pronto | :P |
05:50.23 | marajin | and I ain't buying it on credit |
05:50.30 | pronto | :P |
05:50.50 | pronto | btw its like 200more days of our great leader! |
05:50.53 | pronto | >.> |
05:51.00 | marajin | mm? |
05:51.09 | pronto | bush is out of office in less the 200 days |
05:51.11 | marajin | Monsieur le fuquewit ? |
05:51.13 | pronto | dances |
05:51.14 | marajin | yeah |
05:51.14 | marajin | heh |
05:51.19 | marajin | problem is |
05:51.26 | marajin | all your candidates are tossers too! |
05:51.33 | pronto | :P |
05:51.36 | marajin | admittedly probably not bush level of tossery but still |
05:51.51 | pronto | out of process of elemation i choose obama |
05:52.01 | marajin | well he's the least tossery |
05:52.06 | pronto | i HATE mmcain , and HATE hillary |
05:52.17 | pronto | and ron paul no one is gonna vote |
05:52.33 | marajin | McCain'll win on the conservative america voters I reckon |
05:52.40 | marajin | though I'd rather obama did |
05:52.51 | pronto | if so im happy im 18, becasue i wouild so move out of country |
05:53.24 | pronto | though i dont have the money to :\ |
05:53.24 | pronto | sigh |
05:53.24 | marajin | Do what the rest of us do, make shit up =) |
05:53.24 | pronto | lol |
05:53.42 | marajin | I feel sorry for our current prime minister actually |
05:53.54 | marajin | basically the whole of the population as a general policy plain ignore him |
05:54.04 | marajin | he doesn't even get the dignity of hatred |
05:54.14 | marajin | he just gets ignored and periodically idly mockd |
05:54.18 | pronto | heh |
05:54.27 | marajin | we have more fun ragging on bush :p |
05:54.40 | pronto | lol |
05:55.28 | pronto | lots of .. *OMG HE IS CREEPY LOOKING* ... made money of doing that |
05:55.41 | pronto | (i wiki'd british prime minister |
05:55.47 | pronto | gordon brown >.< |
05:55.49 | pronto | eh |
05:55.56 | pronto | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:GordonBrown2004.JPG |
05:56.15 | pronto | looks like he was in to many bar fights in his youth |
05:56.36 | marajin | he's funny on camera, he scowls all the time but when he knows the camera's on he does a really forced smile |
05:56.47 | marajin | and then when he thinks its off, back to the scowl |
05:56.50 | pronto | lmao |
05:56.53 | marajin | but he always gets it wrong! |
05:57.03 | marajin | and starts scowling when the cameras are still on him |
05:57.29 | marajin | That's prolly one of his best photos :P |
05:57.34 | pronto | :P |
05:57.37 | marajin | he only became prime minister because the last one resigne |
05:57.37 | marajin | d |
05:57.42 | pronto | :o |
05:57.49 | pronto | wahst that blair? |
05:57.54 | pronto | or does he do something else |
05:58.17 | pronto | i sleep in class when they went over UK politiics and such |
05:58.21 | pronto | slept* |
05:58.34 | marajin | it was blair yep |
05:58.36 | marajin | blair was ok |
05:58.45 | pronto | i know that because of movies :P |
05:59.00 | marajin | they were cruel to him about iraq and whatnot but I think he did his best to control bush's arsetardery |
05:59.23 | marajin | and he was certainly a better public speaker than bush :P |
05:59.31 | pronto | umm anyone is |
05:59.45 | pronto | even people with IQ of 60 can do better the bush |
06:00.03 | pronto | "lets ..uh.. stay ..uh... the course!..uhh |
06:00.49 | marajin | heh :P |
06:00.51 | marajin | true |
06:01.00 | marajin | but he made bush seem worse |
06:01.17 | marajin | he'd say something slick with fairly good diction and vocabulary |
06:01.22 | marajin | and bush'd just look puzzled |
06:01.28 | pronto | :) |
06:01.36 | pronto | (Mem):[751/2075M [||||||||||]] |
06:01.42 | pronto | hrm |
06:02.44 | marajin | that load average of mine was firefox apparently heh, it's down to 0.78 now |
06:02.55 | pronto | i killed firefox |
06:02.55 | pronto | lol |
06:03.20 | pronto | pronto pts/1 2008-07-03 00:28 (:0.0) |
06:03.20 | pronto | pronto pts/2 2008-07-03 21:31 (:0.0) |
06:03.20 | pronto | pronto pts/3 2008-07-03 23:21 (:0.0) |
06:03.20 | pronto | pronto pts/4 2008-07-04 02:57 (:0.0) |
06:03.23 | pronto | how would i kill those |
06:03.25 | pronto | users |
06:03.25 | marajin | I wish they'd get back to bugfixing instead of messing about with FF3 andshit |
06:03.31 | pronto | heh |
06:03.36 | pronto | i use ff3 |
06:03.40 | marajin | um, you're probably using those logins |
06:03.50 | pronto | nah i was something stupid i did three days ago |
06:03.55 | pronto | something with VNC |
06:04.06 | pronto | messed up |
06:04.20 | marajin | ah |
06:04.23 | marajin | uses NX |
06:04.29 | pronto | heh |
06:04.36 | marajin | works better :P |
06:04.48 | pronto | i was trying to get my phone to view my computer > |
06:04.49 | pronto | >.> |
06:04.54 | marajin | ah |
06:05.00 | marajin | VNC on windows mobile is painful |
06:05.01 | pronto | is listening to Kiss - Star Spangled Banner |
06:05.02 | pronto | xD |
06:05.03 | marajin | RDP works nicely though |
06:05.06 | pronto | wtf kss |
06:05.07 | pronto | kiss |
06:05.09 | pronto | wtf >.< |
06:05.16 | pronto | really? |
06:05.19 | marajin | yeah |
06:05.25 | marajin | I use RDP to my vista box all the time |
06:05.27 | marajin | works great |
06:05.36 | marajin | even pipes sound to my phone |
06:05.37 | pronto | from your kaiser? |
06:05.42 | pronto | :o |
06:05.48 | pronto | adds taht to notes |
06:06.24 | marajin | I think it may be possible to get to a KDE install via RDP, I think their remote desktop supports it but don't hold me to that |
06:06.41 | pronto | heh |
06:06.43 | marajin | but I doubt KDE'll route sound to the phone.. but yeah works on XP/Vista |
06:06.51 | pronto | i dont use kde though :P |
06:07.04 | marajin | well there are RDP things for linux anyway I'm fairly sure |
06:07.09 | marajin | but they may be client onl |
06:07.09 | pronto | heh |
06:07.09 | marajin | y |
06:07.17 | marajin | Like I said, I use NX |
06:07.22 | pronto | i do have kde installed, so i can use amarok |
06:07.32 | pronto | at least enough of it to use amarok |
06:07.55 | marajin | heh :P |
06:08.06 | marajin | well KDE > Gnome anyway ;) |
06:08.11 | pronto | :P |
06:08.15 | pronto | xfce > all |
06:08.16 | marajin | I used to like using blackbox and iceWM |
06:08.25 | marajin | XFCE's nice tis true |
06:08.37 | pronto | i used something like blackbox or icewm |
06:08.44 | pronto | didn't really like it |
06:08.47 | marajin | I mostly like KDE cause you can count on it to just do really about anything |
06:08.55 | pronto | heh |
06:09.03 | marajin | it's huge and whatnot |
06:09.08 | marajin | but I have the hardware to spare |
06:09.23 | pronto | i hate kde4, its to vista like for me |
06:09.29 | marajin | and it's customizable enough to get it to behave how I want |
06:09.36 | marajin | 4 is just broken at the moment anyway |
06:09.42 | marajin | I tried using it on my laptop |
06:09.46 | pronto | isnt' 4.1 coming out soon? |
06:09.48 | marajin | and then went "...fuck. that." |
06:10.21 | pronto | http://pronto185.com/linux/screens/screens.html :) |
06:10.24 | marajin | my laptop has a GF7600 and the KDE4 graphical stuff doesn't even work ok |
06:10.29 | pronto | heh |
06:11.03 | pronto | (Graphics):[nVidia Corporation GeForce 8800 GT (rev a2] (XOrg):[1.4.0.90] (Res):[1680x1050] (Bits):[24] |
06:11.12 | marajin | My desktop's an 8800GT |
06:11.21 | pronto | :) |
06:11.39 | pronto | (CPU): Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz: (Frequency): 3814.710MHz: (Cache): 2048 KB: (Bogomips): 7635.81 |
06:11.51 | pronto | i OC by 14Mhz :P |
06:13.23 | marajin | O.o |
06:13.30 | marajin | why bother? :P |
06:13.35 | marajin | it's a pentootium 4 for gods sake |
06:14.05 | pronto | for a while o downclocked to 2ghz, then when i deiced to go back i couldnt get the multiplier exactly right |
06:14.12 | pronto | and it was close enough |
06:14.19 | marajin | points at perses "Bogomips: 29420.1" |
06:14.22 | marajin | :D |
06:14.28 | pronto | not quite sure what that is |
06:14.28 | pronto | lol |
06:14.44 | marajin | Billions Of Generated Machine Instructions Per Second |
06:14.47 | marajin | I think |
06:14.58 | marajin | it's a completely unrealistic benchmark figure |
06:15.10 | marajin | I remember a P4 2.4 had about 4800 |
06:15.27 | pronto | neat :) |
06:15.53 | pronto | an unscientific measurement of CPU speed |
06:15.54 | pronto | lol |
06:16.33 | marajin | scientific, just unrealistic |
06:16.51 | pronto | edits the wiki page, citing this as a source |
06:17.00 | marajin | meep? |
06:17.08 | pronto | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BogoMips |
06:17.25 | marajin | Don't quote me, I don't want harassing by tards |
06:17.44 | pronto | lol |
06:19.26 | pronto | so i just starting using last.fm again |
06:19.49 | marajin | I only use my local Mp3s :P |
06:19.54 | pronto | sigh |
06:20.09 | pronto | Last.fm is a service that keeps track of what music you listen to, and then produces a large number of features personalised to you. |
06:20.09 | pronto | You can use Last.fm to listen to music, find out about artists you may like, other people with similar music taste, gigs in your local area, charts and quilts for your personal site, as well as much more. |
06:20.14 | pronto | not internet radio |
06:20.50 | marajin | I still only use my local mp3s and without any tracking |
06:20.54 | pronto | :P |
06:21.08 | marajin | 64GB of music is enough I don't need recommendation ya know |
06:21.18 | pronto | lol |
06:21.28 | pronto | you got any cab calloway ? |
06:21.36 | marajin | No idea :P |
06:21.42 | marajin | 64GB is also too much to remember wtf I have |
06:21.45 | pronto | lol |
06:21.48 | pronto | look! |
06:22.17 | pronto | how many songs is that> |
06:23.05 | marajin | I dunno, more than 10,000 I think |
06:23.15 | pronto | flac you must use then |
06:23.25 | marajin | I don't index 'em because if I do the programs shit themselves |
06:23.41 | pronto | amarok can, if you dont use sqlite |
06:23.52 | marajin | yeah I don't use linux for desktop media tho' |
06:23.53 | pronto | like use myswl and amarok can handle over 50k |
06:24.02 | pronto | oh |
06:24.07 | pronto | i use linux as main OS |
06:24.38 | marajin | I use it for IRC/MUDing/IMs/net browsing/etc. |
06:24.48 | marajin | I usually play media in the background with hardware |
06:25.02 | pronto | heh |
06:25.47 | pronto | im pretty sure you can run KDE apps on windows |
06:25.52 | marajin | and TBH mate, at 192k mp3, you will use 50-60 gigs with 10,000 songs |
06:26.02 | marajin | cygwin? heh |
06:26.05 | pronto | dunno |
06:26.05 | pronto | lol |
06:26.08 | pronto | never did it |
06:26.22 | pronto | ran purple apps on windows (pidgin) |
06:26.28 | pronto | thats about it |
06:26.36 | marajin | I'd rather superglue my testicles to a ranging bull, set fire to the bull and chain myself to a wall |
06:26.49 | pronto | wonders |
06:26.59 | marajin | oh pidgin is actually compiled FOR windows tho' |
06:27.06 | marajin | and GTK is buggy as fuck on windows |
06:27.06 | pronto | lol |
06:27.08 | marajin | really really buggy |
06:27.09 | pronto | heh |
06:27.11 | pronto | i never used it |
06:27.38 | marajin | it counts as a native windows app,'s just buggy as hell :P |
06:28.06 | marajin | they kept saying they'd make an MFC interface but they were lazy and just compiled GTK forwindows |
06:29.06 | pronto | :P |
06:31.20 | pronto | :o xchat is using 127.2mb of virt mem and 53mb of ram |
06:31.44 | marajin | O.o |
06:31.47 | marajin | that's messed up |
06:31.50 | pronto | hrm |
06:32.05 | marajin | I really need more drive space =/ |
06:32.08 | marajin | blames HD Movies |
06:32.21 | pronto | scroll back is 500k lines |
06:32.30 | pronto | and im on 26 channels |
06:32.33 | pronto | that might be why |
06:32.35 | pronto | :o |
06:32.37 | marajin | In the space of 300 SD movies, I'e fit... 32 HD movies! |
06:32.38 | pronto | hd movies rock |
06:32.55 | marajin | they do :P |
06:33.08 | pronto | you a hdbits user? |
06:33.09 | marajin | which is why I needmore drive space instead of just deleting the HD movies and getting SD versions ;) |
06:33.14 | marajin | nope |
06:33.20 | pronto | :P |
06:33.45 | pronto | hdbits pwns |
06:35.55 | marajin | I have a bunch of private trackers |
06:35.58 | marajin | I get a ton of HD content |
06:36.07 | pronto | :) |
06:36.27 | marajin | I have all the star wars.. all the matrix, all the LOTR, etc. |
06:36.29 | pronto | you on p2p-net? |
06:36.58 | marajin | I get stuff like BSG in HD too |
06:37.02 | pronto | O_O |
06:37.08 | pronto | i have like 100gb of bsg |
06:37.24 | marajin | yeah, it's huge in HD :P |
06:37.40 | pronto | i got season 3 in SD though |
06:37.46 | pronto | killed my ratio on hdbits |
06:37.46 | marajin | heh :P |
06:37.55 | pronto | everything else for i is 720p |
06:37.57 | pronto | it |
06:37.59 | marajin | aye |
06:38.13 | pronto | im pissed at this mid season break |
06:38.28 | marajin | No kidding |
06:38.36 | pronto | and earth = owned |
06:38.39 | pronto | lol |
06:38.39 | marajin | I refused to watch the last few episodes incase it cliff hangers me |
06:38.42 | pronto | oh |
06:38.44 | pronto | erm./. |
06:38.48 | pronto | dont read that |
06:38.50 | marajin | don't worry about it |
06:38.56 | pronto | :P |
06:38.57 | marajin | that was an obvious foregone conclusion ;) |
06:39.13 | marajin | earth = owned to me is like saying "water = wet" |
06:39.17 | marajin | f'duh, I could guess that :P |
06:39.32 | pronto | water is wet? |
06:39.33 | pronto | since when? |
06:39.44 | pronto | i was pretty sure it was dry :\ |
06:39.59 | marajin | Man I hope you use a lot of deoderant spray then ;) |
06:40.07 | pronto | :P |
06:40.15 | pronto | deoderant spary = fail |
06:40.45 | pronto | mitchum ftw |
06:43.02 | pronto | :o |
06:43.05 | pronto | this song is pwn |
06:43.07 | pronto | is listening to Jimi Hendrix - Pali Gap |
06:50.05 | marajin | what's mitchum? |
06:50.34 | pronto | don't worry about it |
06:50.40 | marajin | okie... |
06:53.40 | pronto | i shall brb |
06:53.52 | marajin | alright |
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06:55.36 | pronto | moos |
06:56.21 | marajin | quacks |
06:56.28 | pronto | oinks |
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07:15.35 | rakeem | 'Afternoon gents... Been a while... |
07:16.44 | marajin | Morning ;) |
07:17.02 | pronto | morning |
07:19.57 | rakeem | I've not been following things for a while... I'm on a Uni (my fifth!)... I think I was stuck with the Qtopia "No Network" thing. Anyone know if there's a definitive solution yet? |
07:20.15 | rakeem | What devices are you guys running? |
07:22.02 | pronto | i have htc wizard and kaiser .... though both have wm |
07:22.40 | marajin | Hermes and Kaiser here |
07:24.16 | rakeem | They're both sweet units, but last time I checked, the port was progressing very slowly for them. Any better now? |
07:24.58 | marajin | Kaiser's flying |
07:25.20 | rakeem | The Kaiser? X11? |
07:25.27 | marajin | GSM, GPRS/3G, GPS, BTs halfway there, display, touchscreen and keyboards/hardkeys |
07:25.43 | marajin | it runs Android, X is giving us trouble |
07:26.17 | marajin | all done in the last month or so though |
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07:27.29 | rakeem | Android? Wow. I've not even seen it, do you know if there's an image for the Uni? How about sleep/suspend on the Kaiser? That seems to be a tricky one to get working on a lot of devices... |
07:27.47 | marajin | we don't have Powermanagement yet no |
07:27.56 | marajin | but we have working android yep, call make calls and stuff |
07:28.00 | marajin | and use the 3G |
07:28.01 | marajin | and GPS |
07:28.05 | rakeem | Wicked... You got a link to the Kaiser dev site? |
07:28.14 | marajin | one sec. |
07:28.32 | marajin | http://linuxtogo.org/~lgorris/kaiser-bootkit/ |
07:28.38 | marajin | check the readme for status/install info/etc. |
07:28.47 | rakeem | What's Android like then? It doesn't use X? |
07:28.53 | marajin | there's an android initrd and a console-linux angstrom |
07:28.59 | marajin | no android is its own display stuff |
07:29.11 | marajin | we haven't got X to work from angstrom builds |
07:29.22 | marajin | but I don't think we're trying so hard till some of the other hardware lives |
07:32.27 | rakeem | Right... I'm sure it's just a matter of time... It seems that these things can get stalled, waiting for some smart (usually German ;-) cookie fixes a driver or something... |
07:34.07 | rakeem | How's the Keyboard / TS? Glitch free? It was a problem on the Uni for ages after coming out of suspend, and it was the main barrier to the BA's usefulness... |
08:01.53 | marajin | the keyboard's fine |
08:02.02 | marajin | the touchscreen is kinda weirdly distorted at the bottom |
08:02.09 | marajin | but we're ironing that out |
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08:24.50 | marajin | Zoolooc: Morning :) |
08:25.24 | Zoolooc | morning marajin :) |
08:26.11 | marajin | How's it going? |
08:29.39 | pronto | moos |
08:39.10 | Zoolooc | hadn't tried out lately android developments made by the folks here (very few time right now, with our 3 montsh old son ;) |
08:39.28 | marajin | ah :) |
08:39.29 | marajin | happy days |
08:39.46 | Zoolooc | but as my yougest cousin is visting us right now, I ought to impress him with android on kaiser |
08:40.02 | Zoolooc | marajin: yes, that's true |
08:40.10 | marajin | Zoolooc: Well we have GPS, GPRS/3G, GSM, etc. now =) |
08:40.32 | Zoolooc | that's good news. such a pity I have no data plan |
08:40.45 | Zoolooc | WLAN by any chance? |
08:40.52 | marajin | no |
08:41.00 | Zoolooc | not yet, I hope ;) |
08:41.08 | marajin | not yet indeed :p |
08:42.07 | Zoolooc | is there a suitable android initrd for these things? at dcorde's dir prehaps? |
08:45.17 | marajin | yep |
08:45.21 | marajin | that one should do it |
08:59.28 | pronto | holy crap |
08:59.37 | pronto | this song has 1063 kbps bitrate |
08:59.37 | pronto | :o |
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09:07.50 | marajin | ..wtf? |
09:07.58 | marajin | is it uncompressed PCM? :p |
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09:10.47 | kiozen | morning |
09:10.51 | marajin | 'lo there |
09:12.17 | pronto | hello :) |
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09:29.15 | ginge | marajin: wassup with the keymap? |
09:29.33 | marajin | ginge: I think maybe it's fine, it's just the googletime app |
09:29.51 | marajin | ginge: Nearly all the buttons justmake it pan very slightly on the globe, I can't quit |
09:30.05 | ginge | how odd |
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09:32.34 | ginge | marajin: someone in the forum mentioned they still can't hang up with the red button. Is that the same for you? |
09:32.55 | marajin | ginge: Dunno, will test |
09:33.14 | ginge | marajin: right-o. Thanks |
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09:34.03 | marajin | ginge: Wtf is it doing during bootup? It sends my headset apeshit for quite a while |
09:34.18 | ginge | marajin: oh? At what point |
09:34.28 | marajin | During the cylon eye |
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09:35.01 | ginge | ahh. No-one knows what is happeneing during the "eye" |
09:35.12 | ginge | damned closed source junk |
09:36.16 | ginge | you say apeshit... what exactly happens? It might be quite useful to reverse engineer Android messing witht the headset |
09:37.00 | marajin | No I mean the interference on my earphones |
09:37.14 | marajin | you know the type you get during calls/when GPRS is working ? |
09:37.28 | marajin | but it buzzes nearly constantly during bootup |
09:37.29 | ginge | yeah |
09:37.49 | ginge | you think it is just interference from data? |
09:38.22 | marajin | well clearly the modem is active for an extended period |
09:38.35 | marajin | far longer than on WM and the tone is much more constant |
09:39.00 | marajin | as if WM is just getting a GSM signal and android is messing with GPRS/3G connection |
09:39.06 | kiozen | cr2: around? |
09:40.14 | marajin | My kaiser doesn't seem to be making calls. I'm dialing my hermes and getting nothing at all |
09:41.01 | marajin | (all the latest things as of a few hours ago on dcordes site) |
09:41.13 | ginge | marajin: it could be something to do with the way we manually initialise the ppp connection before the cylon. Android normally handles this itself, and almost certainly in a more efficicient manner. At the moment there are some delays in the ppp setup that were calculated with the age old stick yout finger in the air. |
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09:41.33 | marajin | Probably, sounds logical |
09:42.17 | ginge | some people have had problems dialling when they only had GPRS signal. |
09:42.36 | marajin | I got EDGE |
09:44.37 | marajin | it plain won't make calls |
09:44.51 | marajin | and wether I use the d-pad or the red button, I can't hang up |
09:44.58 | ginge | latest zimage? |
09:45.02 | marajin | it just says dialing, my hermes never rings |
09:45.07 | marajin | yep |
09:45.13 | ginge | I will have a look |
09:45.16 | marajin | I deleted everything and wgetted the folder |
09:48.53 | marajin | heh, putting the modem in GSM only mode stops the buzzing during bootup but I can't make calls regardless, I'll try dialing IN to the kaiser |
09:51.22 | marajin | ginge: Nope, nothing, can't dial in or out |
09:54.05 | ginge | do you have an older zimage to try? |
09:54.05 | marajin | hmm maybe |
09:54.05 | marajin | but I'm not sure how old |
09:55.09 | rakeem | Anyone know if it's possible to copy/paste within the OpenMoko terminal? |
09:55.10 | martin__ | ginge: it may be possible to build a kernel that logs everything the android initrd is doing |
09:56.12 | ginge | martin__: thats what I am thinking. May put some stuff in modemsetup.sh to push the log out |
09:56.34 | martin__ | sounds like a very good plan |
09:56.58 | ginge | I bet we could ptrace the whole process |
09:58.58 | martin__ | yeah, just modify the initrd to e.g. replace the init with a script that calls it in strace and writes out to a log |
09:59.11 | martin__ | probably easier than doing it in kernel space |
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10:02.01 | pH5 | hi Marex, did you get pxa25x_udc to work? |
10:02.10 | pH5 | the blueangel says "usb0: full speed config #1: 100 mA, Ethernet Gadget, using CDC Ethernet", |
10:02.11 | pH5 | the host notices an ethernet gadget being connected (049f/505a), but then nothing. |
10:02.23 | pH5 | no usb0 iface created. |
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10:27.04 | kiozen | hm, building qtopia freezes while uic some files, anyone hat this problem, too? |
10:29.29 | marajin | Has anyone looked into what's wrong with X on angstrom builds on the kaiser recently? |
10:31.05 | ginge | would running in /dev/console instead of a proper tty device be something to do with it? |
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10:31.33 | ginge | hi dzo |
10:32.06 | dzo | hi there, just got the sd driver working, up to a point anyway. |
10:32.11 | ginge | good work |
10:32.16 | marajin | dzo: Nice =) |
10:32.30 | rakeem | Well done dzo... |
10:32.34 | marajin | dzo: Define "up to a point" though? :P |
10:32.39 | effbiai | marajin: alive now =) |
10:32.46 | marajin | effbiai: Ah 'lo there =) |
10:33.01 | effbiai | hi :) |
10:33.07 | dzo | not ready for prime time, only pio and it crashed a few times but definitely getting close. |
10:33.57 | marajin | dzo: Good news at least :) |
10:34.03 | dzo | i've been away for a few days will have time to work in it tomorrow. |
10:34.45 | dzo | how is kaiser going, did you get that ril going? |
10:35.40 | effbiai | 06:45 < marajin> effbiai: Stil alive there? - anything you wanted? |
10:35.49 | marajin | effbiai: Yes but I forgot now |
10:35.54 | effbiai | heh, k :) |
10:36.30 | marajin | effbiai: It was 6 hours ago! :P |
10:36.33 | effbiai | let me know in pm when you remember it :) going to be running alot this week... only partial online |
10:36.41 | marajin | no worries |
10:36.44 | effbiai | yeah, i know :) i was sleeping :) |
10:37.05 | effbiai | you know.. some of us sleep during the night :> |
10:37.10 | marajin | pfft |
10:37.12 | effbiai | or.. during the am :> |
10:37.17 | rakeem | Anyone know a way around the "No Network" Qtopia paralysis on the Uni? I've truly googled this to death and tried everything... No joy... |
10:37.24 | marajin | I have an illness that makes me tired permanently, sleep becomes kinda irrelevant ;) |
10:37.27 | effbiai | not actually night at 11AM :x |
10:37.54 | marajin | I never slept much anyway |
10:38.03 | marajin | I worked on a 40/8 hour schedule |
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10:38.57 | effbiai | auch |
10:38.59 | rakeem | marajin: That's tough man... What's it called? Not full-on narcolepsy surely? |
10:39.01 | effbiai | anyway.. cya l8r |
10:39.35 | marajin | rakeem: No no, I mean it makes me feel tired they just call it a bunch of things including Chronic Fatigue Syndrome |
10:39.52 | marajin | see ya effbiai |
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10:40.27 | ginge | i think I hhave this touchscreen almost calibrated right. |
10:40.38 | marajin | ginge: Now that is good news :p |
10:40.43 | ginge | dzo: you said you tried to follow the datasheet, which sheet were you looking at? |
10:40.56 | ginge | marajin: this touchscreen in crazy I have never seen one work like this before |
10:40.57 | eway3g | well done on the sd stuff dzo |
10:41.00 | dzo | tsc2003 |
10:41.15 | marajin | ginge: No, I boggled at the way it's misaligned myself. |
10:41.22 | marajin | ginge: I can't even imagine why it'd do that |
10:41.38 | ginge | dzo: ok. That doesn't seem to explain the whole pressure vs x arrangement to derive y |
10:42.32 | ginge | marajin: still not perfect it is scewed like a rhombus be 4 degrees |
10:42.42 | ginge | s/be/by |
10:43.03 | marajin | ginge: Well that'd be correctable in code but why do we have to is what I wonder. |
10:43.22 | dzo | no, on vogue x and y work and the pressure is calculated from x and y and p1 and p2. your ts must be slightly different. |
10:43.47 | marajin | dzo: Or somehow we're not talking to it properly yeah |
10:43.50 | ginge | marajin: I have the correction algo is, it just needs to be optimised with the correct values |
10:43.58 | marajin | ginge: Yep |
10:44.45 | dzo | there is also a tsc2007 but it should be compatible with tsc2003 |
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11:57.00 | dcordes | konnichiwa |
11:57.08 | pronto | moo. |
11:57.42 | dcordes | pronto: still not booted linux on kaiser eh? |
11:57.57 | pronto | don't plan to |
11:58.14 | pronto | if anything ill boot it for wizard |
12:00.11 | dcordes | oink |
12:00.20 | pronto | potatoes |
12:01.15 | dcordes | woohoo dzo's got sd?!? |
12:01.43 | pronto | wonders |
12:02.16 | dcordes | hm no sources |
12:03.04 | dcordes | effbiai: ping |
12:03.58 | dcordes | marajin: did you get calls working with the builds currently in my linuxtogo ~? |
12:04.35 | dcordes | I fear they are horribly broken |
12:37.13 | pikapika | pronto: you're working on wizard ? |
12:37.21 | pronto | no |
12:37.33 | pronto | right now im trying to fix something i fucked up |
12:37.41 | pronto | (CPU): Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz: (Frequency): 1050.000MHz: (Cache): 2048 KB: (Bogomips): 7635.81 |
12:37.43 | pronto | :| |
12:39.30 | pikapika | fucked up on coding or on your computer ? |
12:39.55 | pronto | got bored |
12:39.58 | pronto | (CPU): Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.80GHz: (Frequency): 1050.000MHz: (Cache): 2048 KB: (Bogomips): 7635.81 |
12:40.02 | pronto | gah |
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15:26.21 | cr2 | hahaha. not so evil. |
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15:30.47 | kiozen | cr2: anything evil around? |
15:31.06 | cr2 | kiozen: i guess they employ androids there -> http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,druck-564120,00.html |
15:31.59 | kiozen | well, there is no big difference to well known German companies |
15:32.17 | cr2 | crazy stuff. |
15:34.01 | cr2 | i prefer qtopia anyway, and it's free software. |
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15:34.13 | cr2 | kiozen: have you managed to compile qtopia ? |
15:34.29 | kiozen | cr2: for the loox yes |
15:34.48 | kiozen | cr2: but the tolls fucked up qtopia for x86, gcc 4.3.1 |
15:35.25 | kiozen | cr2: some really bad template wiredness |
15:35.29 | cr2 | strange, but it probably depends on the toolchain setup. |
15:35.54 | kiozen | cr2: no, gcc 4.3.1 is just a bit more strict |
15:35.56 | cr2 | yes, i had big troubles to crosscompile on amd64 when qtopia qust came out. |
15:36.05 | cr2 | ok. |
15:36.21 | kiozen | as said the oe toolchain worked |
15:36.39 | kiozen | after patching the dbus stuff |
15:36.57 | kiozen | cr2: did you manage to start M on the new rootfs? |
15:37.25 | cr2 | new ? |
15:37.42 | kiozen | well the one from Friday |
15:37.51 | cr2 | i had the usual old problems with the ts and keyboard. |
15:37.58 | cr2 | qtopia problems. |
15:38.18 | kiozen | yes, you have to set the env variables and the correct /dev/input |
15:38.55 | cr2 | i've done it, but something is still not working as expected. |
15:39.14 | kiozen | any idea what it is? |
15:39.40 | cr2 | button mapping ? ts detection ? |
15:40.10 | cr2 | i'm using the old kernel and the buttons and ts work. |
15:40.14 | kiozen | ok, buttonsmapping is broken, let's forget about it until I have got the device |
15:40.34 | cr2 | ah. ts calibration? |
15:40.45 | cr2 | i'll check it. |
15:41.00 | kiozen | there should be a program for ts calibartion |
15:41.11 | cr2 | looking. |
15:41.24 | cr2 | the internal gps, and bt gps are working as expected. |
15:41.50 | cr2 | the internal gps does not want to work in wince, for some reason. |
15:42.14 | cr2 | i didn't want to do a hard reset. |
15:42.32 | kiozen | wince is not important :) |
15:43.02 | kiozen | what was the name of thes ts calibration app? |
15:43.46 | cr2 | ts_calibrate ? |
15:44.31 | kiozen | hm, nothing found, let's look for a package... |
15:44.55 | cr2 | tslib-utils or something like that. |
15:47.18 | kiozen | hm nothing like that, maybe directfb? |
15:49.59 | kiozen | oes qtopia use directfb? |
15:50.08 | kiozen | s/oes/does/ |
15:51.10 | cr2 | it uses the fb directly :) |
15:53.33 | BabelO | kiozen: it is xcalibrate package |
15:53.35 | BabelO | hi |
15:54.01 | kiozen | ok |
15:54.08 | cr2 | BabelO: x ? |
15:54.43 | BabelO | cr2: yes, it seem |
15:55.24 | BabelO | crit is part of the calibration library |
15:55.46 | cr2 | silly |
15:56.31 | kiozen | cr2: now you know why the old image is so big :) |
15:56.56 | kiozen | ok, compiling |
15:57.34 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll need the ts_* programs only. no weird stuff. |
15:58.24 | kiozen | cr2: no way, you wil get the weird stuff |
16:00.07 | BabelO | kiozen: wait |
16:00.09 | kiozen | yes it's compiling a complete x11!! |
16:00.25 | kiozen | iiiiiiiickkkk, ... yes BabelO? |
16:00.39 | BabelO | kiozen: it was in old version, but now it is included in tslib |
16:00.48 | BabelO | http://git.slind.org/git?p=tslib.git;a=tree |
16:00.52 | BabelO | under tests |
16:00.59 | BabelO | just arm-gcc it :) |
16:01.13 | kiozen | BabelO: I have done bitbake tslib |
16:05.44 | cr2 | bbl |
16:06.05 | kiozen | cr2: ok, I'll make a new rootfs |
16:12.41 | ginge | dcordes: ping |
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16:26.02 | maverick2k | Hi, i'm new here and have an old Himalaya pocketpc, and i want to install linux on it |
16:26.19 | maverick2k | i'm running linux as well on my development pc |
16:26.43 | maverick2k | and i used this howto http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaLinuxBooting |
16:27.05 | maverick2k | but can't seem to get connection, neither under WindowsXP |
16:28.24 | maverick2k | I used minicom for the connection and on Windows mobile I get connection and if i load Haret minicom is closed |
16:29.06 | maverick2k | with the message Device disappeared |
16:29.32 | maverick2k | does any one know a solution to this? |
16:36.01 | kiozen | BabelO: adding tslib-calibrate to ANGSTROM_EXTRA_INSTALL seems to do the trick |
16:42.26 | kiozen | cr2: http://www.qlandkarte.org/rootfs.tar.bz2 |
16:42.41 | kiozen | with ts_calibrate |
17:10.47 | cr2 | maverick2k: hmm. himalaya kernel needs some programming work to make it update. |
17:10.54 | cr2 | kiozen: downloading. |
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17:12.29 | maverick2k | cr2: how do you mean |
17:16.16 | Marex | <PROTECTED> |
17:16.54 | maverick2k | <PROTECTED> |
17:20.15 | maverick2k | the device is not registered anymore in the /dev/ directory /dev/ttyUSB0 |
17:31.05 | CPress | Morning All. |
17:31.23 | dcordes | yo ginge |
17:31.30 | dcordes | ginge: anything new? |
17:31.40 | ginge | did you try the new android script? |
17:31.58 | dcordes | not yet sorry |
17:32.01 | ginge | ok. |
17:32.23 | dcordes | could you repost the link so I can take note and try it later? |
17:34.44 | dcordes | ginge: I'll look it up in the logs. bbl will report when I tried |
18:02.51 | kiozen | cr2: does it work? |
18:04.04 | maverick2k | on a Himalaya i'm starting Haret and the last message at booting is Starting portmap deamon: portmap, but still i can't connect to the device with minicom |
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18:17.13 | maverick2k | another question :) which cross compilation toolchain to you recomment for the Himalaya (Xscale)? |
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18:29.19 | cr2 | kiozen: did you put the Q* variables into /etc/profile ? |
18:30.12 | cr2 | Calibration constants: 33621252 -11536 813 -3718080 29 12865 65536 |
18:34.26 | kiozen | cr2: yes, but a better place would be a QLandkarteM start script |
18:34.45 | cr2 | ok |
18:35.08 | cr2 | kiozen: nothing there. |
18:35.42 | cr2 | kiozen: can you pastebin them ? |
18:37.30 | effbiai | dcordes: pong |
18:38.03 | kiozen | cr2: something like that http://pastebin.no/11177 |
18:42.30 | cr2 | kiozen: ts works. |
18:42.37 | kiozen | :) |
18:42.52 | cr2 | for internal gps need to go out. |
18:43.14 | kiozen | cr2: send me all the scripts once you are done |
18:43.30 | kiozen | I will add them to my rootfs generator |
18:43.46 | kiozen | BabelO: ? |
18:44.31 | BabelO | kiozen: ? |
18:45.33 | kiozen | didn't you have a idiot safe way to create a rootfs on a sd for any noob? |
18:46.01 | kiozen | I would need 2 partitions |
18:46.19 | kiozen | one for the rootfs and one for data |
18:46.43 | kiozen | on an update just the rootfs should be destroyed/updated |
18:46.58 | kiozen | I think of soemthing like: |
18:47.06 | kiozen | take an SD |
18:47.13 | kiozen | call this program |
18:47.23 | kiozen | and after a while all is fine |
18:47.35 | kiozen | BabelO: do you have such a thing? |
18:48.43 | BabelO | kiozen: bo :( |
18:48.58 | kiozen | ok, just asking :) |
18:49.00 | BabelO | kiozen: i publish my rootfs with kevin autoinstaller |
18:49.19 | BabelO | so only image file is created no format |
18:49.52 | kiozen | ok |
18:50.27 | kiozen | is there a way to format ext3 in windows? |
18:50.40 | kiozen | or dd the complete thing to sd |
18:52.59 | cr2 | kiozen: testing bt |
18:53.28 | kiozen | lol, internal gps was too bad, ehh? |
18:54.53 | cr2 | yeah, it's as shitty as moko2 internal gps. |
18:56.02 | kiozen | sirf should sue them for castrating their receiver |
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18:59.16 | cr2 | kiozen: yeah. bt sirf3 sees 10 sats ;) |
18:59.23 | kiozen | cr2 I wonder if I could add this stuff to the device http://www.iba-sensorik.de/honeywell/honey_magnetfeld2.htm |
18:59.35 | cr2 | maybe they are cheating, but i get the fix only with bt gps. |
18:59.54 | kiozen | don't tink they have to cheat |
19:00.08 | cr2 | Temperaturbereich -55°C bis 300°C |
19:00.20 | kiozen | normal |
19:00.48 | kiozen | i wonder if the HMR3300 has a serial port |
19:00.57 | cr2 | i think it'd be possible to attach to the rs232 socket. |
19:01.13 | cr2 | what else ? spi ? |
19:01.22 | kiozen | rs232 would be fine |
19:01.47 | kiozen | it just ahs to fit into the rugged case |
19:01.54 | kiozen | s/ahs/has/ |
19:02.48 | kiozen | I still dream of this panorama finder |
19:03.07 | cr2 | ok |
19:03.14 | kiozen | you hold the device like a camera and get the panorama from DEM data |
19:03.42 | kiozen | and with a montain poi data base you know what sumits you can see |
19:04.09 | kiozen | THAT would be cool :) |
19:04.19 | cr2 | :D |
19:04.30 | kiozen | and make Garmin look like shit |
19:05.05 | kiozen | btw http://www.geoclub.de/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=25773 (sorry just german) |
19:05.34 | kiozen | the revebge of the typical garmin cheerleader club |
19:06.07 | cr2 | http://pastebin.no/11186 |
19:07.01 | cr2 | "schwaches Display" ? what does he mean ? |
19:07.15 | kiozen | not readable in sunlight |
19:07.20 | cr2 | ok. |
19:07.49 | cr2 | i've looked at 400 fw. looks like omap again. |
19:08.11 | kiozen | and the fw is just beta |
19:08.12 | cr2 | the fw is a usual arm/thumb mess |
19:08.26 | kiozen | and garmin cut prices half after 4 months :) |
19:08.44 | cr2 | hehe. in dollars ? |
19:08.56 | kiozen | thus the poor suckers can't get rid of the device :P |
19:09.00 | kiozen | euro |
19:09.22 | kiozen | but they still vote for garmin if you piss on it |
19:09.35 | cr2 | ok |
19:09.59 | kiozen | the are like apple followers |
19:10.07 | cr2 | :) |
19:10.18 | kiozen | completely controlled by marketing |
19:10.54 | cr2 | at least they are not sueing people for .img |
19:10.57 | kiozen | cr2: how did you call that script? and did you add it to inittab? |
19:11.17 | cr2 | chmod +x & mv /usr/bin |
19:11.39 | kiozen | that is right, but I wonder how it would look like if I would add the mellon.so |
19:11.53 | cr2 | then just add to inittab as a runlevel |
19:11.56 | cr2 | hehe. |
19:12.14 | cr2 | i don't want to add it to inittab now, so i have more control. |
19:12.22 | kiozen | ok |
19:12.59 | cr2 | ok, so it works now. |
19:13.56 | marajin | yo |
19:14.20 | cr2 | tsdogs: here ? |
19:14.40 | marajin | cr2: Which device was giving you trouble with the internal GPS? |
19:14.59 | cr2 | marajin: n560 |
19:15.31 | marajin | hm ok |
19:16.02 | kiozen | cr2: /dev/rfcomm0 is created automatically? |
19:16.25 | cr2 | yes. |
19:16.55 | cr2 | kiozen: you only need the mac. it's also possible to add it to the bt config in /etc |
19:16.57 | kiozen | marajin:FSC used one of the best gps receiver, but they seem to have metalcoated the antena |
19:17.31 | kiozen | cr2: ok thinnk I have to make that controlable from M anyway |
19:17.36 | cr2 | yes |
19:17.55 | marajin | kiozen: Figures :p |
19:17.56 | cr2 | but it's a generic bt config issue. |
19:18.15 | marajin | kiozen: I only know my kaiser works really well since I updated the rom a while back. |
19:18.40 | marajin | kiozen: I can sometimes get a 9-10 sat lock inside the house in some seconds with it no worries |
19:18.57 | kiozen | marajin: users have tried everything with the N560, nothing helps |
19:19.06 | kiozen | it's just broken design |
19:19.09 | marajin | yeah |
19:19.30 | marajin | I boggled at the N95 (original one not the one with internal storage) actually |
19:19.39 | marajin | the GPS is fucked if you're inside or it's cloudy |
19:19.43 | marajin | nothing at all |
19:20.03 | marajin | I side by sided one with my kaiser, my kaiser'd get like 9-10 sats easy and the N95'd struggle to get more than 1 or 2 |
19:20.10 | kiozen | it's a pitty, you can rug the N560 up for 200 â¬. It make a great outdoor gps |
19:20.24 | marajin | I figure if the reception is that bad, why bother giving it gps at all |
19:20.30 | kiozen | btw gps does not really care about clouds |
19:21.03 | kiozen | gps == "must be on the box" :) |
19:21.11 | marajin | kiozen: The N95s does :P |
19:22.04 | marajin | kiozen: Yeah and then we getstuff like the hermes "it has GPS but we couldn't be bothered giving it an antenna so we'll just say it hasn't" |
19:22.07 | kiozen | then the device must live in a parallel universe with different physics :) did you chech this? |
19:22.15 | cr2 | marajin: kaiser does some very different things. |
19:22.15 | kiozen | lol |
19:22.44 | marajin | kiozen: Seriously I've tried it in all conditions, that n95 just won't work unless it's a clear sky and it's outsdie |
19:22.47 | marajin | *outside |
19:23.11 | marajin | my kaiser really doesn't care what conditions are like and as long as I'm somewhere vaguely near a window it'll get it even inside |
19:23.13 | cr2 | kiozen: not so fast :) gps is biased by the clouds. and by water vapour density. |
19:23.52 | marajin | cr2: yeah, I figured I won't bother going on about such things since I'm not an expert on why but I do know clouds effect it somewhat. |
19:23.56 | cr2 | marajin: does it pick the ephemeris over gsm ? |
19:23.57 | kiozen | but wasn't the frequency chosen to minimize that effect close to nothing? |
19:24.23 | marajin | cr2: What? the N95? |
19:24.49 | marajin | kiozen: When the device is already on the borderline of not getting signals, even a minimized effect is enough |
19:24.54 | cr2 | kiozen: it's possible to calculate the water density and the temperature watching the gps bias. |
19:25.37 | cr2 | kiozen: up to about 30km it's one of the most cheap and easy remote sensing methods. |
19:25.57 | cr2 | radiosonds are more accurate of course. |
19:26.14 | kiozen | sure it has some effect but I could never see a difference on my 60SCx, time of the day is much worse |
19:27.47 | marajin | hmm I tend to get pretty solid reception all day around |
19:28.35 | cr2 | i'm talking about good receivers here :) who deal with the ionospheric delay properly. |
19:28.36 | kiozen | reception is good, but the sytematic error depends on the satellite locations, and that is time based |
19:29.22 | kiozen | In my area i get usually a larger error in the afternoon, than in the morning |
19:29.23 | cr2 | kiozen: only in a geometric sense. that's why *dop is junk. |
19:29.53 | cr2 | because it can be calculated from ephemeris, without doing any real measurements. |
19:30.29 | kiozen | cr2: yes but if you try to find tuppaware in the forest, you notice if your location is steady or moving allong :) |
19:31.46 | kiozen | the same is for recording tracks, in the morning you drive alonf the street, in the afternoon you drive off street |
19:32.17 | cr2 | it's mainly the ionospheric error. |
19:32.17 | kiozen | so never look just at your gps, look at the road! |
19:32.36 | kiozen | yeah maybe |
19:32.40 | cr2 | i want a 2frequency receiver :) |
19:33.09 | kiozen | lol, hijack a "landesvermessungsamt" employee |
19:34.34 | kiozen | I always wonder if galileo and gps together will have some synergies |
19:34.54 | cr2 | they use dgps |
19:35.18 | cr2 | the frequency bands are too close. |
19:35.35 | kiozen | well yes, the clouds :) |
19:36.46 | kiozen | cr2: btw how is the status for boot/suspend/resume? |
19:37.19 | marajin | galileo is supposed to be integrating with GPS anyway |
19:37.23 | marajin | they're making it a combined system |
19:37.57 | kiozen | hm, let's see if that ever happens :) it's quite political |
19:37.59 | cr2 | kiozen: boot is not 100%, suspend works, resume does not work. but i don't need a device to fix these. |
19:38.24 | cr2 | it's more about patience in looking through the boot process disassembly. |
19:39.22 | kiozen | cr2: ok, how much time do you think you need to make boot working? |
19:39.39 | marajin | kiozen: I know the US are furious about galileo because they can't control it |
19:39.52 | kiozen | marajin: hehe :) |
19:40.05 | kiozen | they do not need to control everything |
19:40.31 | kiozen | it's the same with children |
19:40.34 | marajin | kiozen: No but they want to, cause terrorists could use it to guide them! |
19:40.50 | marajin | kiozen: And if there was a threat they can turn the GPS sats off but galileo they can't! |
19:41.10 | kiozen | lol, yes paranoia is always a nice hobby |
19:41.24 | cr2 | marajin: they can use glonass. when enough sats will be really working. |
19:41.25 | marajin | I know, it's so much BS |
19:41.41 | kiozen | no one cares about the gun shot victims per year in the US |
19:41.52 | marajin | glonass works? heh |
19:42.08 | cr2 | kiozen: i'll give you n560 back anyway. |
19:42.26 | cr2 | marajin: with up to 4 hours "holes" per day |
19:42.33 | kiozen | cr2: I see you want to get rid of it :))))))))))))))) |
19:42.58 | cr2 | marajin: when you don't see any satellites |
19:43.03 | marajin | cr2: Ah yeah, they say global coverage isn't till 2009 |
19:43.18 | cr2 | kiozen: i don't need the physical device to fix the code. it's like with himalaya. |
19:43.57 | kiozen | cr2: and I can start with testing usabilty of M, thus it's ok |
19:44.17 | cr2 | ok |
19:45.12 | kiozen | I think boot and resume are most important. guess I can take care off the rest if you give me enought hints |
19:52.28 | kiozen | cr2: added script as qlandkarte.sh to rootfs |
19:55.12 | cr2 | ok. |
19:55.17 | cr2 | bbl |
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21:15.35 | Marex | dang pwm is broken on pxa25x in mainline or what :/ |
22:41.00 | dcordes | hi |
22:42.23 | dcordes | cr2: how do you make the memory maps out of the mmu dumps? |
22:49.51 | cr2 | dcordes: you can't |
22:51.22 | marajin | 'lo dcordes |
22:52.00 | dcordes | cr2: how are they created then? |
22:52.06 | dcordes | hi marajin |
22:52.27 | marajin | so dcordes, I can't make or recieve calls with the stuff on your site as of about 24 hours ago |
22:52.33 | marajin | I haven't tried an older zimage yet |
22:53.01 | dcordes | marajin: too many different kaiser-smd.c |
22:53.27 | dcordes | I hope it's not also broken in git now |
22:53.49 | dcordes | did you hear anything from martin__ and how the merge is going? |
23:05.34 | dcordes | marajin: can you get online with the last builds? |
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23:40.02 | marajin | dcordes: Sorry, got sidetracked |
23:40.19 | marajin | dcordes: Erm, Not that I know of but I haven't set the ppp stuff anyway |
23:40.37 | dcordes | just use the ppp.sh script |
23:41.04 | dcordes | but that should work. I have no idea how I broke the calls in android |
23:41.32 | marajin | you may not have, it just won't work on my device in particular. I'll try under console-linux sometime |
23:43.08 | dcordes | marajin: did calls work for you in previous builds? |
23:43.39 | marajin | dcordes: I did have it workin at one point yep |