| 00:00.23 | dcordes_ | or do you mean I don't need them in general with either provider? |
| 00:01.08 | ginge | I need user pass on kernel line |
| 00:01.33 | dcordes_ | I put something stupid there also and in angstrom I passed user pass with the pppd command |
| 00:01.46 | dcordes_ | did you manage to put the cmdline APN var? |
| 00:01.54 | ginge | yeah |
| 00:01.56 | dcordes_ | so we can present it to xda |
| 00:02.03 | ginge | needs testing |
| 00:04.47 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/init1 |
| 00:04.47 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/init1.1 |
| 00:04.47 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/setupmodem.sh |
| 00:05.04 | ginge | 1 and 1.1 are important you dont change the carriage returns |
| 00:05.04 | dcordes_ | ginge: what's wrong with my resolf.conf if I can only reach direct IPs? |
| 00:05.22 | ginge | you need a nameserver entry for the dns of your provider |
| 00:05.33 | ginge | or opendns if you can connect to it |
| 00:05.58 | ginge | its not the best way to attach this whole issue, but for now it should work |
| 00:06.21 | dcordes_ | I don't understand where areyou putting the apn var? |
| 00:07.03 | ginge | in the kernel command line ppp.username=user ppp.password=pass ppp.apn=YourAPN_Name |
| 00:07.38 | dcordes_ | so pppd automagically uses YourAPN_Name? |
| 00:08.05 | ginge | as in YOUR apn name |
| 00:08.24 | ginge | not mine, which is orangeinternet |
| 00:08.33 | ginge | ppp.apn=orangeinternet |
| 00:08.53 | ginge | ppp.apn=vodafonedoodar etc |
| 00:09.11 | dcordes_ | :) |
| 00:09.28 | dcordes_ | oh your setupmodem.sh has wrong permissions |
| 00:11.01 | dcordes_ | You don't have permission to access /files/android/setupmodem.sh on this server. |
| 00:12.20 | ginge | s |
| 00:12.26 | ginge | s/s/oops |
| 00:13.12 | ginge | try now? |
| 00:13.27 | dcordes_ | same |
| 00:13.39 | ginge | setmodem.notsh |
| 00:14.00 | ginge | you know what I mean |
| 00:14.08 | ginge | any different? |
| 00:15.01 | dcordes_ | don't understand what you mean |
| 00:15.04 | ginge | I think the server was trying to execute it |
| 00:15.09 | dcordes_ | oh |
| 00:15.12 | dcordes_ | gotcha |
| 00:15.13 | ginge | http://www.headfuzz.co.uk/files/android/setupmodem.notsh |
| 00:15.24 | dcordes_ | ^^ cool now |
| 00:15.33 | dcordes_ | what's your htppd? |
| 00:15.38 | dcordes_ | http server |
| 00:15.42 | ginge | apache |
| 00:15.58 | dcordes_ | I have a lighttpd to grab builds from kaiser |
| 00:16.08 | dcordes_ | I found that's the quickest way to get stuff on it |
| 00:16.33 | ginge | I use scp |
| 00:17.04 | dcordes_ | got gprs no datalimit plan? |
| 00:17.14 | ginge | pretty much |
| 00:17.26 | ginge | 50GB/m then 20p/meg after |
| 00:17.50 | dcordes_ | my voda data plan is ass. got some t-mobile trial card. |
| 00:18.22 | dcordes_ | busybox nc -l -p 4329 -e busybox sh?? |
| 00:18.57 | ginge | ? |
| 00:19.10 | dcordes_ | what does that do? |
| 00:19.35 | dcordes_ | oh nc- the tcp/ip swiss army knife |
| 00:19.46 | ginge | netcat |
| 00:20.01 | dcordes_ | ok |
| 00:20.17 | dcordes_ | still much to learn for me ^^ |
| 00:20.26 | ginge | okay, so have you worked how how it works and why its a bad way yet? |
| 00:20.42 | ginge | heh, it wont even work |
| 00:20.47 | ginge | I forget a line |
| 00:21.28 | dcordes_ | let me grab a cup of tea and a bütterke then I'll try |
| 00:21.48 | ginge | okay fixed on server |
| 00:29.55 | martin__ | hey guys, how's it going |
| 00:30.42 | ginge | hi martin__ |
| 00:30.47 | martin__ | i'm in the midst of a pretty major cleanup |
| 00:30.56 | martin__ | have split up smd.c into different bits |
| 00:31.06 | martin__ | moved all the 7x00a specific stuff out |
| 00:31.16 | martin__ | defined an interface for chip-specific stuff |
| 00:31.35 | martin__ | made all the different shared memory things build options |
| 00:31.44 | ginge | wow you have been busy |
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| 00:32.05 | martin__ | hopefully will be able to get 7200, 7500 and 7x00a all supported off basically the same codebase with minimal differences |
| 00:32.19 | dzo | hi all |
| 00:32.22 | ginge | sounds good. |
| 00:32.23 | martin__ | hey dzo |
| 00:32.25 | ginge | hi dzo |
| 00:32.47 | dzo | looks like kaiser is coming along nicely. |
| 00:33.07 | martin__ | dzo: i'm working on trying to merge all the different smd implementations |
| 00:33.17 | martin__ | using as much of the google smd.c as possible |
| 00:33.19 | dzo | try proc_comm, from the memory map it looks like it is the same for you. |
| 00:33.27 | dzo | good idea |
| 00:33.49 | martin__ | might need you to test some stuff on vogue when i've got it finished and tidied up |
| 00:34.10 | dzo | the vogue smd is very different, but i had a look at vogue gps the other day and it is more like kaiser. |
| 00:34.22 | ginge | dzo i am trying to find some common ground between the touchscreen drivers. Still no irq for that cpld |
| 00:35.54 | dzo | that's odd. the ts irq is quite buggy but it's really the only solution, you don't want to be polling all the time. |
| 00:36.05 | martin__ | dzo: has your stuff been tried on any other 7500 device? |
| 00:36.38 | dzo | I don't think so. |
| 00:36.53 | dzo | what other 7500 devices are there? |
| 00:37.06 | dcordes_ | martin__: I suggested in the xda titan forum to try dzo's work on titan |
| 00:37.21 | dcordes_ | and they were able to boot with a small angstrom image |
| 00:37.32 | dzo | my stuff works on titan since it is almost identical. |
| 00:37.48 | martin__ | libra apparently is too |
| 00:37.58 | dzo | i'm fighting with the sd driver now. |
| 00:38.25 | martin__ | and iris |
| 00:38.33 | dcordes_ | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2190196 |
| 00:38.39 | martin__ | okay |
| 00:38.57 | martin__ | i'm going to treat vogue-smd as meaning 7500-smd effectively then |
| 00:39.33 | dzo | I think smd depends more on AMSS than the hardware |
| 00:40.01 | martin__ | meaning the code on the ARM9? |
| 00:40.33 | dzo | yes, even different versions of the radio on the same hardware behave differently. |
| 00:40.54 | martin__ | ah, wasn't sure if different radio versions had been spotted with significant smem differences |
| 00:40.59 | dcordes_ | what's amss for again? advanced mobile something software? |
| 00:41.45 | martin__ | it looks like they've tried to standardise the smem layout for 7x00A |
| 00:41.54 | dzo | something like that. |
| 00:42.14 | martin__ | since the google code is all confidently labelled '7x00A' though developed on 7200A |
| 00:42.27 | dcordes_ | martin__: 7500A |
| 00:42.31 | dzo | on 7x00a smem is very different there is a mechanism to request areas of smem. |
| 00:42.38 | martin__ | yeah, i know |
| 00:43.05 | martin__ | that's what i've been trying to factor out so you can swap in static allocation functions for our chips |
| 00:43.25 | dzo | there should really be an arch-msm with different types under that. |
| 00:43.36 | martin__ | that's exactly what i've done |
| 00:43.49 | martin__ | it's going to be quite a big patch |
| 00:43.59 | dcordes_ | dzo: I think it's the same way in the handhelds.org kernel |
| 00:44.16 | dzo | are you using the git repo for kaiser? |
| 00:44.27 | dcordes_ | quite reasonable regarding all the different device specific files |
| 00:44.31 | martin__ | we are but haven't committed anything for quite a while |
| 00:44.50 | dcordes_ | not since AT write is working |
| 00:45.05 | martin__ | i've got smd.c now split into smem.c, smd.c, proc_comm.c, smsm.c, smem-7x00a.c |
| 00:45.47 | dcordes_ | what's the device specifc part of them? |
| 00:45.56 | dzo | OK, that's good |
| 00:46.21 | dzo | I am trying to put all my device specific stuff in vogue-hw. |
| 00:46.51 | martin__ | what I've got in smem_chip.h at the moment |
| 00:46.59 | martin__ | which defines the interface for chip-specific stuff |
| 00:47.00 | martin__ | is: |
| 00:47.09 | martin__ | void notify_other_smsm(void); |
| 00:47.09 | martin__ | void notify_other_smd(void); |
| 00:47.09 | martin__ | void notify_other_proc_comm(void); |
| 00:47.09 | martin__ | int smd_is_packet(unsigned n); |
| 00:47.09 | martin__ | int smd_open_chip(unsigned n, struct smd_channel *ch); |
| 00:47.12 | martin__ | void smd_init_chip(void); |
| 00:47.14 | martin__ | void do_smd_probe(void); |
| 00:47.17 | martin__ | void smd_diag(void); |
| 00:47.19 | martin__ | void smsm_init_chip(void); |
| 00:47.22 | martin__ | void *smem_alloc(unsigned id, unsigned size); |
| 00:47.33 | dzo | we need to find what is common, have you tried proc_comm yet? |
| 00:47.40 | martin__ | i haven't, no |
| 00:47.59 | martin__ | probably best way to test that is on my kaiser-smd.c |
| 00:48.10 | martin__ | by porting it in manually from smd.c / vogue-smd.c |
| 00:48.23 | martin__ | since this rewrite is probably going to break everything initially |
| 00:48.40 | dcordes_ | dzo: I tried to merge your proc_comm stuf which didn't work. that was when not even AT was working correctly on kaiser |
| 00:49.15 | dzo | I have an early boot console driver that's quite useful. |
| 00:50.37 | dzo | it's in board-htcvogue.c, should work fine on kaiser. |
| 00:52.53 | dcordes_ | ginge: is init1.1= init2? |
| 00:53.12 | ginge | no, its 1.1 :) |
| 00:53.42 | dzo | you said, the on screen kbd appears at the top, this probably means your mdp dma works correctly. Try taking out the #ifdef on line 129 in msm_fb.c, it's a work around for bad mdp on vogue. |
| 00:54.12 | ginge | dzo: fixed that yesterday |
| 00:54.17 | dcordes_ | ginge: so android parses 1, 1.1, 2? |
| 00:54.23 | ginge | yeah |
| 00:54.34 | dcordes_ | ginge: could you paste your 2? |
| 00:54.41 | ginge | same as normal |
| 00:54.58 | dcordes_ | could you put the line I accidently removed it |
| 00:55.09 | ginge | did you copy paste from my site, sor did you wget (or similar) it? |
| 00:55.15 | martin__ | okay, i'm off to bed |
| 00:55.17 | dcordes_ | wget |
| 00:55.25 | dzo | that setupmodem script was just a quick hack, it should really happen in the ril lib. |
| 00:55.30 | martin__ | i'll email all of you this smd rewrite stuff once i've filled in all the gaps |
| 00:55.43 | ginge | dzo any change of getting a hold of your ril lib? |
| 00:55.58 | dcordes_ | martin__: cool thanks a lot. good night |
| 00:56.17 | ginge | dcordes_:uploaded |
| 00:56.20 | dzo | OK, send me your email address. |
| 00:56.31 | ginge | barry dot carter at gmail.com |
| 00:56.36 | dzo | it's not pretty though!!! |
| 00:56.49 | ginge | heh, you aint seen my code ;) |
| 00:57.10 | dcordes_ | dzo: did you completely disassemble and rewrite it? |
| 00:57.29 | dcordes_ | it's not always transparent what's available what's not of the android sources |
| 00:58.13 | dzo | I reverse engineered the android ril, it was all in thumb code, horrible, took about a week. |
| 00:58.40 | dcordes_ | uuh |
| 00:59.07 | ginge | you are dedicated :) |
| 00:59.10 | dcordes_ | dzo: is the code that opens the audio connection after you dial in the ril? |
| 01:00.08 | dzo | for vogue, it is a proc_comm handled by a /sys driver in vogue-hw.c |
| 01:00.10 | dcordes_ | I somehow assumed the arm9 creates the audio connection to the handset and was astonished when it din't in angstrom after a dial |
| 01:00.36 | dcordes_ | we don't have vogue-hw.c and audio works |
| 01:00.54 | dzo | on kaiser perhaps AT+CMUT=0 does it |
| 01:01.40 | dcordes_ | I will try this |
| 01:04.35 | ginge | dzo: did you have anything to do with the kaiser touchscreen? |
| 01:05.58 | dcordes_ | I think kaiser touchscreen driver is based on vogue-ts |
| 01:06.31 | dzo | ginge: kaiser ts was based on mine but it seems they work differently. |
| 01:06.53 | dzo | ginge: just sent you my ril |
| 01:06.55 | ginge | it is, but I just noticed that the screen has a weird adc reading. its like what would normally be the top 50% is actually offset to to the top |
| 01:07.04 | ginge | dzo: got it. many thanks |
| 01:07.44 | dzo | there is some correction based on where you are on the screen, no idea why that should be. |
| 01:07.55 | ginge | bizarro |
| 01:08.27 | dcordes_ | there were some fixes which attempted to get rid off the ts offset we have some kaiser |
| 01:08.37 | dcordes_ | on kaiser. maybe that is part of those |
| 01:08.44 | dzo | tsc2003 datasheet is easy to find and i tried to follow it but there are some things that aren't documented. |
| 01:09.45 | dzo | ok, got to go for lunch now, bye all. |
| 01:09.51 | ginge | dzo: thansk again. bye |
| 01:09.53 | dcordes_ | bye |
| 01:14.02 | ginge | this ril driver is tasty |
| 01:14.49 | dcordes_ | yum |
| 01:15.41 | ginge | awesome. so what doesnt work :) |
| 01:16.31 | dcordes_ | whatabout phone gprs simultaneously? |
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| 01:17.08 | dcordes_ | Iwonder what I did yesterday before I made my phone ring from angstrom |
| 01:18.08 | ginge | that doesnt work? |
| 01:18.24 | dcordes_ | don't know |
| 01:19.20 | dcordes_ | ginge: does the ril have a comment with the set of commands probably? |
| 01:24.08 | ginge | send sms work? |
| 01:25.54 | dcordes_ | no but remember dzo's updated kaiser-sms ril? |
| 01:26.16 | dcordes_ | that prevented the sms app from freezing but destroyed everyhing else it was not source so it won't be of use though |
| 01:31.27 | ginge | well i think we can make this work |
| 01:31.46 | ginge | the touchscreen is going to take more work :/ |
| 01:32.58 | ginge | I am off to get some sleep. Night |
| 01:33.56 | dcordes_ | night |
| 01:47.04 | Marex | cr2: I have some megapatch for you (palmtx) |
| 01:47.13 | Marex | cr2: I will prepare it, you can just commit it |
| 01:47.20 | Marex | wm9750 might be next in line |
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| 06:26.02 | Xenophule | Well evening, all |
| 06:43.54 | Marex | hi |
| 06:49.25 | Xenophule | Well, handy heh |
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| 08:17.34 | dcordes_ | hi |
| 08:18.00 | hagisbasheruk | hi dcordes_ |
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| 12:02.40 | dcordes_ | martin__: how's the merge going? |
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| 13:16.17 | Marex | cr2: hi, did you get my mail ? :) |
| 13:33.11 | lama | http://my.opera.com/operamobile/blog/2008/06/26/the-wait-is-almost-over |
| 13:37.37 | kiozen | cr2: ? |
| 13:38.25 | BabelO_ | ola kiozen |
| 13:38.30 | BabelO_ | hi Mar |
| 13:38.32 | kiozen | ola :) |
| 13:38.37 | BabelO_ | hi Marex |
| 13:38.38 | BabelO_ | hi all |
| 13:39.16 | kiozen | BabelO_: stupid question: what is the proper way to enable network over usb on a device |
| 13:39.35 | BabelO_ | kiozen: automatic or manual ? |
| 13:39.39 | kiozen | BabelO_: as long term SuSE user I have no clue ? |
| 13:39.46 | kiozen | BabelO_ automatic |
| 13:40.05 | BabelO_ | kiozen: automatic is just to add auto usb0 in /etc/network/interface should be already auto lo here |
| 13:40.27 | BabelO_ | and in /etc/modutils/g_ether one line with g_ether inside |
| 13:40.52 | BabelO_ | kiozen: on first startup angstrom see this file and know it should load module automatic way |
| 13:41.54 | kiozen | BabelO_: thus it's: iface usb0 inet static... |
| 13:42.10 | kiozen | auto usb0 |
| 13:42.18 | BabelO_ | kiozen: this is the device side :) for suse side only modprobe usbnet but should be already here, and don't forget to remove the ipaq module |
| 13:42.20 | kiozen | in interfaces |
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| 13:42.55 | kiozen | BabelO_ ipaq on the device side? |
| 13:43.51 | BabelO_ | kiozen: no on suse side |
| 13:44.08 | kiozen | ok |
| 13:44.33 | BabelO_ | kiozen: and be carefull on suse side with the automatic knetworkmanager, i always say cancel to autoconfigure interface, else it switch my internet to the usb network |
| 13:45.18 | kiozen | BabelO_: knetworkmanager sucks! |
| 13:45.32 | kiozen | BabelO_: http://www.pastebin.no/10358 |
| 13:45.38 | kiozen | does this look ok? |
| 13:48.50 | BabelO_ | kiozen: yes for automatic up of interface :) |
| 13:49.04 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i hope your home network is notlike me on 192.168.0.X |
| 13:50.00 | kiozen | BabelO_: no, no, 172.16.1.X |
| 13:50.12 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 13:50.28 | BabelO_ | kiozen: this is my office network :) |
| 13:50.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: lol, my office network is 192.168.x.x |
| 13:51.39 | BabelO_ | kiozen: i always change the OE settings because of the need of specific route on computer |
| 13:52.01 | BabelO_ | and the internet route for device with iptable on same ip range :( |
| 13:52.45 | kiozen | BabelO_: think I do a setup dialog on M for that (hidden when qpe is running) |
| 13:54.59 | kiozen | BabelO_: next I'll do a OE/Qtopia SDK |
| 13:59.27 | BabelO_ | kiozen: ok, i can send you my quick done comm manager for qtopia to activate bt or gps |
| 13:59.43 | BabelO_ | kiozen: don't know how cr2 manage power on n560 |
| 14:00.37 | Marex | cr2: email email email :p |
| 14:00.53 | Marex | cr2: I'll blackmail you back if you dont commit that patch :p |
| 14:00.55 | kiozen | BabelO_: I wanted to do similar when selecting gps via bt |
| 14:01.02 | kiozen | BabelO_: deleteing lib/modules/2.6.21-hh20/ from the rootfs should be ok because the n560 kernel has no modules, and these aren't the right ones anyway (htcunversal or c550) |
| 14:01.22 | BabelO_ | ok |
| 14:01.47 | kiozen | BabelO_: ok, the 1st or the 2nd? :) |
| 14:03.03 | BabelO_ | kiozen: the 1st, and you have and API for bt search in qtopia if you don't have it loaded |
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| 14:03.20 | BabelO_ | kiozen: for 2) i read that cr2 did not use module on n560 |
| 14:03.34 | kiozen | BabelO_: cr2 hates modules :) |
| 14:04.51 | BabelO_ | i know :) |
| 14:04.51 | kiozen | ok, have to collect my son, bbl |
| 14:04.56 | BabelO_ | bbl |
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| 15:02.19 | swc|666 | this sucks... i'm trying to boot Titchy on BA but cant login because the keyboard gets stuck and presses the same letterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 15:09.18 | dcordes_ | swc|666: that's a known problem with the baaaaaaaaa |
| 15:10.12 | swc|666 | dcordes: i know, but I had thought that one of the kernels worked |
| 15:20.32 | dcordes_ | don`t know |
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| 15:57.09 | exco | not sure if someone will ever need it... but I just finished tracing those JTAG pins for the Magician :-) |
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| 17:45.40 | ginge | interesting. I changed dzo's ril driver, but I now have audio through the earpiece and through the loudspeaker |
| 17:45.47 | ginge | progress I guess |
| 17:45.55 | ginge | any HTC AT wizards here? |
| 17:47.13 | ginge | damn. everything works through proc_comm |
| 17:50.31 | ginge | dcordes: can you try somethign next time you are in angstrom and have the modem setup |
| 17:50.54 | ginge | dcordes: AT+HTC_CSQ and AT+CSQ |
| 17:51.28 | ginge | dcordes: and if that works can you move somewhere with a known bad signal and do the same |
| 17:53.31 | ginge | hmm. The modem seems to be dropping out of PDU into text mode. Thats not going to help when it comes to sms |
| 17:56.24 | dcordes | I alsways have signal |
| 17:57.18 | dcordes | how did you enable the earpiece? dzo said on kaiser the audio is probably not proc_comm but an AT command |
| 17:57.19 | ginge | full bars? |
| 17:57.25 | dcordes | yea |
| 17:57.35 | ginge | hmm. |
| 18:02.14 | dcordes | ginge: what's the AT command to open the audio connection? |
| 18:02.44 | dcordes | AT+CMUT=0? |
| 18:05.00 | ginge | CMUT is the mic mute |
| 18:05.11 | ginge | I uses AT+CLVL= |
| 18:06.08 | ginge | to do voice and data I we need to handle the CMUX command set |
| 18:06.13 | ginge | not sure on that |
| 18:07.46 | ginge | CLVL seems to have a limit of 0 to 8 but I need to confirm that |
| 18:09.39 | ginge | why won't the signal level work?!? |
| 18:10.20 | ginge | dcordes: anyhoo, i'm off for a few hours. good luck with those commands, I hope they prove me wrong ;) |
| 18:10.50 | ginge | dcordes: also you could try testing yourself while watching smd0 and see what comes out |
| 18:12.40 | ginge | dcodes: hopefully you will see +CMT: , x and then your sms |
| 18:12.52 | ginge | cya |
| 18:17.17 | dcordes | the signal level comes in always from my modem |
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| 18:37.50 | cr2 | huh ? |
| 18:37.53 | cr2 | Type: Operating System - Enhancements |
| 18:37.53 | cr2 | Version: 1.00 (12 Jun 2008) |
| 18:37.54 | cr2 | Operating System(s): Microsoft Windows CE 5.0 |
| 18:37.54 | cr2 | File name: sp39097.exe (1.7 GB) |
| 18:38.02 | cr2 | 1.7GB ??? |
| 18:39.28 | cr2 | ah, ok. |
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| 18:39.38 | cr2 | The update loads ALL map data on the device. |
| 18:41.38 | prem1 | dcordes, ginge: hi, what's the current status ? |
| 18:41.51 | cr2 | lol. "has anyone been brave enough to install this update?" |
| 18:44.20 | Marex | cr2: hi :) |
| 18:44.48 | Marex | cr2: long time no commit :p |
| 18:48.17 | Marex | ~ping cr2 |
| 18:48.18 | apt | pong cr2 |
| 18:56.11 | prem1 | Looks as though you're having problems with sms and signal level. Did you try reverting to libreference-ril-original.so in /etc/init.ril ? I'll check, but I think it works for me. |
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| 19:08.00 | pikapika | :) |
| 19:20.47 | Marex | jeez :/ |
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| 20:07.19 | Marex | cr2: ping |
| 20:09.42 | Marex | cr2: damned ... ping |
| 20:09.49 | BabelO | lol |
| 20:12.36 | Marex | BabelO: what ? |
| 20:12.50 | Marex | BabelO: looks like blackmailer doesnt like to be blackmailed back :D |
| 20:13.12 | BabelO | Marex: set apt botmailing :) |
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| 20:16.28 | Marex | BabelO: pity apt cant join forces with ibot from #handhelds and make cooperative attack on cr2 ;D |
| 20:16.44 | BabelO | LOL |
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| 20:19.41 | Marex | moreover I took a look at the sound |
| 20:19.54 | Marex | I fully understand what's his problem now |
| 20:26.39 | BabelO | Marex: me, i m looking at my new icom receiver :) |
| 20:32.47 | Marex | :) |
| 20:33.36 | tcccp | iCom? Nice :) |
| 20:33.41 | tcccp | you're in aviation then? |
| 20:38.02 | cr2 | Marex: waiting for the n560 sound patch now :) |
| 20:42.00 | BabelO | tcccp: no, just ham radio :) |
| 20:42.22 | tcccp | ah, ok |
| 20:43.02 | cr2 | kiozen: hi |
| 20:43.10 | kiozen | hi |
| 20:43.45 | Marex | cr2: I took a look at the sound and I fully understand why you dont want to touch it so badly |
| 20:43.52 | lpotter | BabelO: whats imlife? |
| 20:44.25 | kiozen | cr2: can you extract from the old rootfs the changes for qtopia and what was neccessary to run M from inittab |
| 20:44.35 | cr2 | tts_loq is it tomtom ? |
| 20:44.55 | BabelO | lpotter: my app screenshot here http://linuxbox2.free.fr/qtapp/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=15 |
| 20:45.16 | cr2 | Marex: hehe. just because you know asoc better than me, and i've a lot of other things to do... |
| 20:45.17 | BabelO | lpotter: messenger for qtopia for various protocol like google talk, msn, yahoo .... |
| 20:45.52 | cr2 | kiozen: i've only added /usr/bin/QLandkarte.sh |
| 20:45.55 | BabelO | lpotter: latest sources are in GIT |
| 20:46.14 | cr2 | kiozen: i've overwritten the SD, so it's all gone away now |
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| 20:46.23 | kiozen | ok :) |
| 20:46.40 | cr2 | kiozen: because it were some really minor changes. |
| 20:47.01 | lpotter | you and goxboxlive should merge your apps to the master :) |
| 20:47.02 | cr2 | kiozen: btw, i'd be in Munich on 8.07 |
| 20:47.30 | kiozen | cr2: sounds good, make a rest in Regensburg, it's really not on your way |
| 20:47.54 | cr2 | BabelO: the top bar takes too much from the screen. think of 240x240 screens |
| 20:48.37 | cr2 | kiozen: hmm. yes, but if i'll repair the car and will drive the car. |
| 20:48.38 | BabelO | cr2: it is the qtopia theme like this... one other theme is ok for small screen |
| 20:48.46 | cr2 | BabelO: ok. |
| 20:49.00 | kiozen | cr2: I am a bit glued here during the week, as my wife is in Munich at her "Amtsjahr" for patent athorney |
| 20:49.00 | BabelO | lpotter: did you try it ? |
| 20:49.10 | kiozen | cr2: and I have to maintain our son :) |
| 20:49.20 | cr2 | kiozen: yes, i know. |
| 20:49.57 | Marex | cr2: I dont know asoc at all ;) |
| 20:50.08 | Marex | cr2: btw did you already commited those two patches ? :p |
| 20:50.59 | BabelO | lpotter: ok i merge it, maybe my two other app can go here too |
| 20:51.04 | kiozen | BabelO: stop |
| 20:51.12 | BabelO | kiozen: ? :) |
| 20:51.17 | cr2 | Marex: sure. i'm not like you :) |
| 20:51.18 | Marex | cr2: there was a bug in the palmtx Makefile ... -..._CORE +..._PCMCIA ... if you can just fix it, thanks ;) |
| 20:51.25 | kiozen | BabelO: bargain for propper dbus cross compile support :P |
| 20:51.32 | lpotter | BabelO: not yet |
| 20:51.37 | Marex | cr2: :E~ you dont have exams :/ |
| 20:51.59 | Marex | cr2: Im now looking at palm bootloader v.3 (or what can I call it ...) |
| 20:52.04 | BabelO | lpotter: ok i understand, i wait then |
| 20:52.17 | BabelO | lpotter: kiozen have issue with dbus and angstrom toolchain |
| 20:53.09 | kiozen | lpotter: configure is not honoring the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable |
| 20:53.12 | cr2 | kiozen: tell your wife that intellectual property is theft :) |
| 20:53.27 | kiozen | cr2: lol, I do every day :) |
| 20:57.42 | lpotter | the dbus .pc files need to use {prefix} |
| 20:57.57 | lpotter | not sure of oe uses it |
| 20:58.11 | lpotter | if |
| 20:59.19 | Marex | cr2: looks like Im screwed with suspend to mem on palmtx |
| 20:59.29 | Marex | cr2: it uses the same loader as palmld :/ |
| 20:59.32 | kiozen | lpotter: it seems that it ignore the path to the *.pc file and uses the system file |
| 21:00.19 | kiozen | lpotter: there has been a similar post at qtopia forum http://qtopia.net/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=16&topic_id=562 |
| 21:04.48 | lpotter | does the dbus-1.pc file have a prefix entry? |
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| 21:05.23 | Khaytsus | Nice. :) |
| 21:08.22 | kiozen | lpotter: "prefix=/usr" |
| 21:09.17 | lpotter | that is wrong for a cross compiler :) |
| 21:09.55 | cr2 | kiozen: you have new mail |
| 21:10.47 | kiozen | lpotter: ok what should it read? |
| 21:11.04 | kiozen | prefix={prefix} ? |
| 21:15.05 | kiozen | cr2: ok, hurry up! |
| 21:15.12 | kiozen | :) |
| 21:15.22 | cr2 | LOL |
| 21:18.37 | Marex | cr2: what mail ? :P |
| 21:20.11 | cr2 | Marex: i told him that you've agreed to finish the n560 sound driver this week :) |
| 21:20.34 | Marex | :E~ |
| 21:20.40 | kiozen | :)))))))))))) |
| 21:21.05 | Marex | cr2: have you found out how to disable the watchdog on wm6.1 based n560 ? :) |
| 21:21.17 | cr2 | Marex: you can't . |
| 21:21.27 | Marex | cr2: why ? |
| 21:21.37 | cr2 | Marex: you need to run a daemon, and feed it with data. |
| 21:21.46 | Marex | ewwww :/ |
| 21:22.13 | cr2 | Marex: because pxa27x does not allow to disable the watchdog, once started. |
| 21:22.24 | Marex | cr2: Im screwed then ;D |
| 21:22.53 | cr2 | diogene31 has created a kernel thread for that task. |
| 21:22.54 | Marex | cr2: are you really sure wm6 n560 does have it enabled ? |
| 21:23.41 | cr2 | Marex: wm6 enables it on all devices (afair). even on the omap850 |
| 21:23.55 | Marex | sheesh :/ |
| 21:23.58 | diogene31 | cr2: In fact it was ymerejt :) |
| 21:24.27 | diogene31 | cr2: And the only way to disable it is through suspend/resume if you want not to reboot. |
| 21:24.36 | cr2 | diogene31: sorry. but it was some very clever person, and your name came first to my mind:) |
| 21:24.46 | diogene31 | cr2: :)))))) |
| 21:25.26 | cr2 | then pxa27x manual says it can't be disabled. |
| 21:26.25 | Marex | cr2: then that's too bad ... you'll have to do the sound yourself :p |
| 21:26.34 | diogene31 | cr2: Not really. It says it cannot be disabled without CPU restart (which is the case in a suspend/resume). On suspend, all CPU is halted (excepting power managment unit and xxx unit I've forgotten). |
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| 21:27.44 | cr2 | diogene31: ok. but then it's a good idea to boot 'by resume' from haret. |
| 21:28.11 | diogene31 | cr2: Oh yes, it's a bright idea. You should push that toward Kevin. |
| 21:28.33 | cr2 | diogene31: he has already done it for apache. |
| 21:28.52 | cr2 | diogene31: and it's extremely device dependent way to boot. |
| 21:29.27 | diogene31 | cr2: Yep. Even worse, it's device and IPL version dependant. |
| 21:32.03 | Khaytsus | So if the progress bar gets to 100%, how long to wait until one assumes it's hung and not booting? |
| 21:35.49 | cr2 | Khaytsus: where ? |
| 21:36.19 | Khaytsus | Sorry, when running HaRET |
| 21:38.26 | Marex | cr2: Marex is a nickname :E~ |
| 21:39.11 | Marex | cr2: even though most people call me like that, Im Marek ... with K at the end :) |
| 21:39.36 | cr2 | Marex: sorry. look at the clock... |
| 21:39.53 | Marex | cr2: np ... nearly midnight, what about it ? |
| 21:40.21 | cr2 | well, it's late an i'm tired. |
| 21:41.08 | Marex | cr2: I see :) |
| 21:41.31 | Marex | indeed ... it's late and I feel like hacking on palmtx the whole night |
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| 22:22.58 | slashchop | good evening |
| 22:29.06 | cr2 | BabelO: tmc on ipaq is strange |
| 22:29.35 | BabelO | cr2: tmc ? |
| 22:29.52 | BabelO | cr2: about radio gps tmc ? |
| 22:31.04 | cr2 | yes. |
| 22:31.48 | BabelO | cr2: i found a forum, some guy got it working on eten x500 with there one dll and igo8 |
| 22:32.02 | cr2 | You have to board ferry train %d times |
| 22:32.10 | cr2 | yes, it's igo8 |
| 22:32.27 | cr2 | You have to pay a charge on ferry train |
| 22:32.37 | BabelO | cr2: ok :) that the only one which already implement tmc for some device, i ve it on artemis |
| 22:34.23 | cr2 | fm.dll ? |
| 22:34.33 | BabelO | cr2: yes :) |
| 22:34.35 | cr2 | FM_GetRdsTime |
| 22:34.44 | cr2 | FM_GetAFFrequency |
| 22:34.53 | cr2 | FMIsRDSTMCChannel |
| 22:35.06 | cr2 | FMGetChannelHealth |
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| 22:35.36 | cr2 | TEA5764RegisterControl |
| 22:36.02 | cr2 | and a lot of weird $PLTCM commands. |
| 22:36.10 | BabelO | cr2: http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=7229&st=45 |
| 22:36.14 | cr2 | LTC ? |
| 22:37.10 | cr2 | BabelO: use dlopen mechanism in haret for these functions, then you'll be able to run tests and trace them. |
| 22:37.49 | cr2 | igo8 just hardcodes device handling for "all" known devices |
| 22:37.50 | BabelO | cr2: ok, but i ve to check if this function are on arte too |
| 22:39.01 | cr2 | DBLIB::DEM::IBILINEARDIFFENCODER |
| 22:39.03 | BabelO | cr2: they are cool guy, but speak strange language here -> http://eten-users.eu/index.php?showtopic=10840&st=15 |
| 22:39.12 | cr2 | DBLIB::DEM::IHUFFMANNENCODER |
| 22:39.16 | cr2 | interesting |
| 22:39.36 | cr2 | Die Infos zur FM.DLL sind "confidential". Sie könne mir also keine Auskunft geben... |
| 22:39.37 | BabelO | cr2: you are in igo code dll ? |
| 22:39.37 | cr2 | lol |
| 22:39.59 | cr2 | the information about FM.DLL is confidential. |
| 22:40.00 | BabelO | cr2: it use DEM elevation file :) yes i ve one |
| 22:41.18 | cr2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.18 | slashchop | Im trying to mount my Kaiser in ubuntu. any ideas? |
| 22:42.23 | cr2 | they talk about some TMC patents. |
| 22:43.20 | BabelO | cr2: ok, on first page there is a fmdll test program |
| 22:43.38 | BabelO | slashchop: mount kaiser ? WM5storage ? |
| 22:44.46 | slashchop | wm6 |
| 22:45.22 | BabelO | slashchop: and ? wm5storage run on wm6 too |
| 22:45.31 | BabelO | it is always same wince base :) |
| 22:45.40 | slashchop | :) |
| 22:48.25 | slashchop | Im pretty mad tonight. my neighbour have been in spain for like 2 weeks. comes back and starts a freaking party playing music to loud. no wonder Im gonna sit up all night playing with my kaiser |
| 22:53.16 | ljp | wait till tomorrow morning and play your music just as loud :) |
| 22:55.14 | BabelO | cr2: what are the NOAA sat frequencies ? 136Mhz ? |
| 22:55.27 | cr2 | BabelO: i've read the thread. those whining wince people make me sick. |
| 22:55.40 | BabelO | lol |
| 22:55.42 | cr2 | BabelO: don't know. |
| 22:56.07 | slashchop | lol. nah. now I have a excuse to stay up all night |
| 22:56.16 | cr2 | BabelO: we would have never had linux running on htc devices, if followed their strange logic. |
| 22:56.48 | slashchop | I also want linux on my htc :P |
| 22:57.03 | slashchop | my boss to |
| 22:57.05 | BabelO | cr2: it is like some Windev coder, if you know this software :) |
| 22:57.50 | BabelO | always installing around 35Mb of SDK to run a small software 35Kb which bring up a LED :) |
| 22:58.07 | cr2 | slashchop: kaiser already runs linux to some extent. |
| 22:58.23 | slashchop | I know. I have tried |
| 22:58.31 | slashchop | wanna try more :D |
| 22:59.18 | cr2 | BabelO: what is GNS protocol ? |
| 22:59.38 | Marex | cr2: maybe I will try libertas 8381 again ... that driver is pretty much something |
| 22:59.47 | BabelO | ah this speak to me but don't remember |
| 23:00.18 | cr2 | Marex: wifi is certainly not easy. |
| 23:00.45 | BabelO | cr2: http://www.gpspassion.com/FORUMSEN/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17275&whichpage=2 |
| 23:01.05 | slashchop | so how far have the developement reached? |
| 23:01.07 | BabelO | that's why :) decords software |
| 23:01.19 | slashchop | what works. and what does semiwork |
| 23:01.33 | cr2 | BabelO: it's plain text ?? |
| 23:01.56 | BabelO | cr2: The GNS protocol, inserted information in binary RDS within chains NMEA GPS (ASCII) |
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| 23:03.17 | cr2 | BabelO: looks good :) |
| 23:03.25 | Marex | cr2: yea, I gave up last time ... it already took me quite some time |
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| 23:14.29 | BabelO | good night |
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